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| 01:25.22 | herlo | Will Smith, presenting on OpenVPN in 5 minutes :) |
| 01:25.26 | herlo | http://stream.utos.org:8080 |
| 01:25.27 | brac | [Utah Open Source Streaming Media Server] |
| 01:25.34 | herlo | actually already started... |
| 01:25.49 | peno | lies |
| 01:26.14 | herlo | It could be, but you should try it first and see, it's no rickroll guaranteed... |
| 01:26.57 | peno | oh ok |
| 01:39.58 | herlo | Fedora Classroom sessions starting in 10 minutes in #fedora-classroom |
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| 04:09.33 | elg | oh no |
| 04:09.42 | elg | i found this app that keeps track of the time spent on each window |
| 04:09.48 | elg | er, application |
| 04:10.05 | elg | now i'm going to see how much time I waste |
| 04:28.23 | levi | Uh oh. :) |
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| 21:59.08 | tensai | elg: they turned out pretty well. best pancakes I've made from scratch, but that's not hard. |
| 21:59.16 | elg | tangy? |
| 21:59.42 | tensai | no. I think I used way too much milk which neutralized the lactic acid. |
| 22:01.44 | tensai | pancakes weren't very fluffy. but they tasted good. |
| 22:03.27 | elg | next time feed it 1 cup water 1 cup flour at least 12 hours ahead of time |
| 22:03.38 | elg | so it's good and sour, and the consistency will already be good |
| 22:04.06 | elg | and if you want more fluff, you need less liquid - the more runny the less fluffy (to a point) |
| 22:04.34 | elg | you also want to be sure not to lose your chemical leavening, which means very gentle handling after you add the soda and don't wait |
| 22:04.40 | elg | me, I like them *not* fluffy |
| 22:04.58 | elg | nothing worse than a fluffy pancake. gag |
| 22:07.18 | tensai | my start is really gluey. I had to dillute it quite a bit otherwise I would have only had one pancake. |
| 22:07.38 | elg | yeah, at 100% it would be |
| 22:07.55 | elg | 100% isn't a bad hydration for start, especially if you just make bread with it |
| 22:07.56 | tensai | the start rose about 12 hours and was plenty bubbly. it's never been all that tangy though. |
| 22:08.00 | elg | but I find 1:1 by volume is easier to work with |
| 22:08.18 | elg | which amounts to abt 150% |
| 22:08.49 | tensai | that's a lot more soupy then |
| 22:09.03 | elg | ya |
| 22:09.09 | elg | which means it'll go sour sooner |
| 22:10.29 | elg | ideally for pancakes the start is beyond where you'd want it to make bread |
| 22:10.47 | elg | so if your start is the most bubbly at 8 hours, at 12 hours it's good for pancakes. if your start is more sluggish, adjust accordingly |
| 22:11.27 | elg | oh, and since iirc that recipe only uses soda, no powder, if there wasn't enough sour it would also account for the underfluff |
| 22:12.35 | tensai | yeah, I figured that once it didn't fluff. I threw in some baking powder at the last minute but it didn't do much either. |
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| 22:17.14 | tensai | hatch is cosponsoring a new "fair compensation for artists" bill. coming from him it's bound to be awful. |
| 22:17.17 | tensai | http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:s379: |
| 22:17.18 | brac | [Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)] |
| 22:17.25 | tensai | text hasn't been uploaded yet though |
| 22:18.20 | elg | ugh |
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