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| 00:39.18 | ibot | steals vontrapp's parking sticker |
| 00:39.51 | vontrapp | i've hooked up my computer to my tv with DVI->HDMI |
| 00:39.56 | vontrapp | and now it's being retarded |
| 00:40.09 | vontrapp | it works, but then randomly the screen will blank |
| 00:40.14 | vontrapp | only for a half second or so |
| 00:40.29 | vontrapp | then the TV says "HDMI 1" like it was just switched to it |
| 00:40.44 | vontrapp | and then some random time later it will do it again |
| 00:40.49 | vontrapp | has anybody seen this before? |
| 00:47.57 | levi | Nope, sorry. |
| 00:48.25 | levi | Sounds like it loses the signal for a moment or something. |
| 00:48.46 | levi | I'm not really sure how DVI works. |
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| 00:59.46 | ibot | steals vontrapp's parking sticker |
| 01:00.13 | eightyeight | this is great, right up until the fight scene. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9WP8Zwu260 |
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| 01:43.24 | goozbach | anyone know how to "ping" a mac address? |
| 01:45.29 | eightyeight | find the mac in your arp table? then ping the ip? |
| 01:45.41 | goozbach | yeah, not gonna happen |
| 01:45.52 | goozbach | the IP address was taken over by the other half of a cluster |
| 01:46.13 | goozbach | I'm just wanting to double check that the node I just fiddled the network on did come up. |
| 01:46.21 | eightyeight | dhcp-leases? |
| 01:46.45 | goozbach | I suppose |
| 01:47.37 | Tene_ | goozbach: arping? |
| 01:47.52 | goozbach | Tene_: nope doesn't do that |
| 01:48.00 | goozbach | leap of faith I suppose |
| 01:48.02 | Tene_ | goozbach: so what do you want exactly? |
| 01:48.06 | goozbach | here goes |
| 01:48.14 | goozbach | verify that the cable I just switched, works |
| 01:48.25 | goozbach | I have a cluster |
| 01:48.30 | goozbach | node a and node b |
| 01:48.44 | goozbach | failed over the cluster, which makes node b take node a's IP address |
| 01:49.22 | goozbach | I moved node A to a new switch, and I want to verify that node A has link-level connectivity before init'ing a giveback of the cluster |
| 01:51.46 | tensai | goozbach: ping the broadcast address |
| 01:51.51 | tensai | often that'll trigger an ARP |
| 01:52.03 | goozbach | tensai: I just went with the leap of faith method |
| 01:52.10 | goozbach | link lights were up |
| 01:52.15 | goozbach | all I can do |
| 01:52.17 | goozbach | it worked |
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| 02:25.16 | jgiboney | I just set up a subdomain through 1and1 that points to the same server as the main domain, and I am a little lost how to get the subdomain to work on apache2 on debian etch |
| 02:25.56 | jgiboney | should I have a the subdomain in the same file as the main domain? |
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| 04:50.49 | tensai | ~lart elg |
| 04:50.49 | ibot | holds elg to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails |
| 05:07.48 | Supaplex | ~rlart |
| 05:07.49 | ibot | beats ccjoe senseless with a 50lb Unix manual |
| 05:09.04 | levi | What'd ccjoe ever do to you? |
| 05:09.54 | ccjoe | 50 lb Unix manuals don't exist anymore so I'm not too worried |
| 05:10.42 | levi | I wouldn't bet on that. I'm sure there are a few still hanging around. :) |
| 05:20.13 | Supaplex | buhuhaha. reconfigured dhcp on a laptop with a remote connection, and didn't lose a beat. :) |
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| 14:57.50 | Sargun_Screen | Man, just glassing over countries is so much easier than helping them |
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| 16:01.32 | elg | tensai: ping |
| 16:01.39 | tensai | pong |
| 16:07.21 | tensai | elg: what, nothing? |
| 16:07.31 | elg | oh, didn't see you there |
| 16:07.35 | elg | are you taking ninja lessons? |
| 16:07.48 | tensai | if I was, you'd already be dead |
| 16:08.15 | elg | just letting you know i changed my primary mx in dns |
| 16:08.35 | elg | comcast is blocking 25 in now on my acct. the robots caught on to me i guess |
| 16:09.19 | elg | how long is your greylist timeout? |
| 16:09.32 | tensai | 3 weeks? |
| 16:09.44 | elg | no i mean for delivery |
| 16:09.51 | tensai | 6 years? |
| 16:10.04 | elg | i was trying to test by hand and it just says 451-72.14.184.191 is not yet authorized to deliver mail from <hans@fugal.net> |
| 16:10.05 | tensai | 30 minutes |
| 16:10.08 | elg | doesn't tell me when to try back |
| 16:10.20 | elg | ok. well can you test then that it will forward to the right place now? |
| 16:11.35 | tensai | why is your mx ttl so high? |
| 16:12.56 | elg | i didn't have the foresight that i would have to change it i guess |
| 16:13.39 | tensai | I can't get dns to clear so I added a manual route through taran |
| 16:13.50 | elg | k |
| 16:14.21 | tensai | makes a mental note to stay away from comcast |
| 16:14.29 | elg | :) |
| 16:14.33 | elg | well at least they sent me an email |
| 16:14.41 | elg | though the email didn't say anything about blocking smtp inbound |
| 16:14.56 | elg | it did give instructions on setting up the alternate port (i was already using their smtp servers as a relay) |
| 16:15.03 | elg | for smtp outbound |
| 16:15.25 | elg | though their instructions also failed to mention that i'd need to do smtp auth. i guess they figure the mail client will just pop up the password box |
| 16:15.44 | elg | but being too lazy to go look up my credentials, I just set up forwarding through gmail :-p |
| 16:15.50 | elg | s/forwarding/relaying |
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| 16:18.38 | sjansen | http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE50S1MX20090129 |
| 16:19.08 | sjansen | I say we show solidarity with our French brethren. Meet me tonight in downtown SL. We protest for ponies! |
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| 16:37.26 | tensai | ~trample sjansen |
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| 16:52.07 | levi | So, the inaugural ceremony sound system was apparently largely Harman gear. JBL speakers and Crown amps. |
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| 17:09.17 | eightyeight | http://philosecurity.org/2009/01/12/interview-with-an-adware-author |
| 17:09.32 | eightyeight | that's got to be one of the better articles i've read in a while |
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| 17:40.35 | elg | -lart snmpd |
| 17:40.35 | brac | formats snmpd's harddrive to fat12 |
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| 17:40.48 | elg | for not having enough logging granularity |
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| 18:26.44 | levi | Tracking down obscure bugs is SO MUCH FUN. |
| 18:27.23 | levi | Especially when the only debug method is printf over a serial line. |
| 18:27.31 | Jayce^ | hrm, odd, I could swear I just felt some sarcasm going on around here.. guess not.. |
| 18:27.36 | levi | And comparing that to Wireshark traces. |
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| 18:46.49 | elg | levi: at least you have ascii and don't have to compare binary data |
| 18:46.54 | elg | -lart sjansen |
| 18:46.54 | brac | enrolls sjansen in Visual Basic 101 |
| 18:46.59 | elg | ~lars sjansen |
| 18:48.19 | sjansen | elg: Jokes on you! I'm quite experience at skipping class. |
| 18:48.30 | eightyeight | ~sjansen elg |
| 18:48.31 | ibot | ACTION tells elg good things about sjansen |
| 18:48.48 | levi | elg: Well, most of what I have to go on is sizes of chunks of data right now. |
| 18:51.09 | vontrapp | levi: know anything about vidcard to hdmi tv? |
| 18:51.32 | vontrapp | i got one, and when i plug it in it works, but then the tv will randomly blank out |
| 18:51.39 | vontrapp | about minute intervals on average |
| 18:51.52 | vontrapp | sometimes several in as many seconds |
| 18:52.27 | vontrapp | then the tv acts like it lost the signal, displaying "HDMI 1" for a moment when the picture comes back |
| 18:53.51 | levi | No, I've only used VGA and component video to hook up computers to HDTVs. |
| 18:54.35 | vontrapp | hrmm... |
| 18:54.38 | vontrapp | any one else? |
| 18:55.07 | vontrapp | i highly doubt something as simple as a cable would cause it, but that's my best hope |
| 18:55.25 | vontrapp | btw, compenent and vga both work just fine |
| 18:55.35 | levi | Maybe the clocks are slightly out of sync or something. |
| 18:56.06 | vontrapp | ya i guess that could do it |
| 18:56.16 | vontrapp | my vid card does do weird things |
| 18:56.26 | vontrapp | with the analog, it will sometimes go wavy on me |
| 18:56.31 | levi | I'm not really familiar with how the DVI protocol works. |
| 18:56.52 | vontrapp | have to switch to vt and back to get it to normal again |
| 18:57.14 | vontrapp | though the hdmi thing is far more frequent and obnoxious than the wavy lines |
| 18:58.04 | levi | Maybe try a different video card. |
| 18:58.05 | vontrapp | but i'm not ready to consign myself to analog just yet :( |
| 18:58.19 | vontrapp | but my birthday just passed |
| 18:58.53 | levi | Go sell some plasma for cash. No one needs to know. ;) |
| 18:59.00 | sjansen | vontrapp: You have only one birthday per year, but you have 364 un-birthdays! |
| 18:59.15 | sjansen | o/~ A very merry un-birthday to you. To you. ~/o |
| 18:59.16 | vontrapp | oh goody |
| 18:59.31 | vontrapp | sjansen: get me a vid card for my next unbirthday... pleeeease! |
| 18:59.47 | sjansen | Not until I get my pony. |
| 19:00.11 | vontrapp | digs up a my little.... i mean, i don't have one |
| 19:00.57 | vontrapp | puts away the tiny brush and saddle |
| 19:01.26 | levi | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121259 |
| 19:01.35 | sjansen | vontrapp: Write to your representative, get it added as a rider on the stimulus package. |
| 19:01.38 | levi | You can probably afford that one. |
| 19:02.17 | vontrapp | can i use a govt coupon for a "digital box" of the pci variety? |
| 19:03.19 | levi | No. :) |
| 19:04.59 | vontrapp | that is a good deal... |
| 19:05.22 | vontrapp | what's the cheapest i can expect to find an hdmi cable? |
| 19:06.34 | levi | http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240 |
| 19:06.37 | brac | [HDMI Cable] |
| 19:07.31 | Jayce^ | meh, I got some on amazon for a buck each, working perfectly for me |
| 19:09.07 | elg | interesting: http://nolisting.org/ |
| 19:09.08 | brac | [Nolisting: Poor Man's Greylisting] |
| 19:10.04 | levi | Apparently you can get them for one cent each plus $5 shipping. |
| 19:11.11 | elg | that nolisting thing has me thinking. what if you had a secondary mx that just hands out 450 temporarily unavailable |
| 19:11.19 | levi | http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00132BCGA/ |
| 19:11.45 | elg | then when the primary goes down, everyone would try the secondary and get a nice truthful message about mail servers |
| 19:11.56 | elg | the secondary wouldn't have to queue, everyone would know they should retry |
| 19:11.59 | elg | birds sing |
| 19:12.24 | elg | the only downside is when you come back up you don't get the flood of queued mail from the secondary, but have to wait for everyone to retry individually |
| 19:16.12 | sjansen | I'm not sure I want to buy anything from Andy43712. |
| 19:17.42 | vontrapp | elg, an intelligent firewall that mixes greylisting and nolisting |
| 19:18.26 | vontrapp | i guess that wouldn't work because you'd have to deny the connectino before you know the envelope |
| 19:19.24 | vontrapp | but if there is a way, ala greylisting, to get the client to retry, immediately, on the secondary mx when the envelope fails the greylisting test... |
| 19:23.19 | elg | well, at least some mtas will immediately try the secondary when they get a 450 from the primary |
| 19:23.34 | elg | which would make a non-greylisted secondary seem like a good diea |
| 19:23.36 | elg | idea even |
| 19:24.05 | elg | but alas other spammers go straight for the secondary because it's usually less guarded - a backdoor to the primary |
| 19:24.20 | elg | but what if the secondary were more guarded - essentially a "go around front" sign |
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