| 00:00.35 | redbeard2 | ~kick harleypig |
| 00:00.36 | ibot | ACTION kicks harleypig |
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| 00:09.57 | sjansen | ~reboot harleypig |
| 00:09.58 | ibot | ACTION pushes harleypig's reset button |
| 00:10.43 | redbeard2 | ~migs harleypig |
| 00:10.44 | ibot | ACTION forces harleypig to learn perl from ^Migs^ |
| 00:12.25 | maquis | ~lart redbeard2 |
| 00:12.25 | ibot | offers redbeard2 some herring |
| 00:12.45 | redbeard2 | ~herring maquis |
| 00:12.46 | ibot | ACTION whacks maquis on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred |
| 00:12.54 | maquis | hey! |
| 00:13.04 | maquis | i had ibot give you herring, and you hit me with it? |
| 00:13.35 | redbeard2 | maquis: i'm a jerk like that. |
| 00:13.51 | redbeard2 | other ways too, but specifically like that. |
| 00:14.27 | maquis | lol |
| 00:14.37 | redbeard2 | did you want me to come up with a recipe for it? |
| 00:15.48 | maquis | ooh... that's a good idea |
| 00:15.49 | maquis | :) |
| 00:15.57 | maquis | fish... mmm... |
| 00:16.37 | redbeard2 | step 1: hit harleypig over the head with the herring. step 2: order out for pizza. |
| 00:16.49 | redbeard2 | isn't a fan of seafood |
| 00:16.59 | maquis | redbeard2: you live in utah... they don't have good seafood in utah |
| 00:17.04 | redbeard2 | and more specifically, i don't believe harleypig is a fan of it either |
| 00:17.33 | redbeard2 | maquis: i've lived in the greater boston area too, where they do have good seafood. sadly, it did not convert me. |
| 00:17.44 | maquis | alaskan sockeye... cold-smoked... with cream cheese... |
| 00:17.50 | redbeard2 | i have, however, had some great catfish down in louisiana |
| 00:18.01 | maquis | begins to drool |
| 00:18.26 | maquis | has to be sockeye, though |
| 00:18.37 | maquis | my dad likes king better, but i just don't get it |
| 00:18.44 | maquis | sockeye has *way* better flavor |
| 00:18.50 | maquis | oh... and not farm-raised |
| 00:18.58 | maquis | farm-raised salmon tastes like garbage |
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| 00:27.01 | sjansen | ~steal maquis's smoked salmon |
| 00:27.01 | ibot | ACTION grabs maquis's smoked salmon and gives it to sjansen |
| 00:28.06 | sjansen | Great catfish? The only catfish I've ever had tasted like dirt. |
| 00:28.47 | harleypig | is definitely *not* a fan of seafood. |
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| 00:32.16 | unum | I like catfish, it doesn't taste like fish |
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| 02:06.48 | levi | I wonder if kids today think the new Knight Rider is as cool as I used to think the original was. |
| 02:09.31 | jsmith | Probably not |
| 02:09.37 | jsmith | Too many other choices of entertainment today |
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| 03:53.47 | harleypig | feh ... my timezone file is pointing to /usr/share/zoneinfo/MST7MDT but date says I'm still in EST ... what am I doing wrong? |
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| 05:40.48 | fugue88 | harleypig: You mean your /etc/localtime file is pointing to... ? |
| 05:46.47 | harleypig | fugue88: oh, it's supposed to be localtime? I was using timezone ... checking |
| 05:48.27 | harleypig | fugue88: that was it, thx |
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| 13:53.31 | craver | !narf |
| 13:54.37 | fugue88 | harleypig, localtime is the one that effects the system's sense of timezone, but many distros maintain localtime from a setting in another file as well. |
| 13:54.43 | fugue88 | Glad it worked. |
| 14:27.13 | Sargun | Playing allmusic/amazonSongs/Cake/Comfort Eagle/5 - Commissioning A Symphony In C.mp3. |
| 14:27.17 | Sargun | fugue88, you're new. |
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| 15:14.11 | Sargun_screen | wall-e is so accurate about the relation between guys and girls |
| 15:14.48 | bonez45 | yeah, it's pretty dead on.. with that. Sargun_screen I have to agree |
| 15:25.56 | high_roller | I finally saw wall-e a week ago |
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| 15:26.17 | Sargun_screen | high_roller: I think I'll watch the first half this morning |
| 15:26.24 | Sargun_screen | and then the second half later on tonight |
| 15:36.32 | levi | I love Wall-E. |
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| 15:54.25 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | ¡Peanut Manteca! |
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| 17:28.09 | bonez45 | I have too many discs around.. any of you have a great organizer. for all the discs you collect and burn and use? |
| 17:30.14 | high_roller | I just stack them in the case CD-Rs come in |
| 17:30.39 | high_roller | but I usually have to pull them all off to find the disc I want |
| 17:31.23 | high_roller | I've also used just the flip cd cases, like that are commonly used for music CDs |
| 17:34.15 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | Have you been putting something in my gumbo, baby? |
| 17:35.22 | sjansen | o/~ Now you been burning those funky candles baby, all over the house. ~/o |
| 17:35.39 | sjansen | o/~ There's a smell of juju in the air. ~/o |
| 17:36.13 | sjansen | o/~ What's with the little doll I found, stuck full of pins? I'd pull 'em out but I just don't dare. ~/o |
| 17:36.33 | sjansen | o/~ Whoa, what's this happening to me darling? ~/o |
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| 17:43.58 | unum | ignite 2 will be march 26th |
| 18:00.30 | sjansen | o/~ Step it up Mary my fine daughter. ~/o |
| 18:00.44 | sjansen | o/~ Step it up Mary if you can. ~/o |
| 18:01.00 | sjansen | o/~ Step it up Mary my fine daughter. ~/o |
| 18:01.25 | sjansen | o/~ Show your legs, t'is a country band. ~/o |
| 18:02.48 | Supaplex | hey sjansen, how's things? |
| 18:03.26 | sjansen | Listen' to some Stomp Down music. It was born around the bayou in a winter hurricane. |
| 18:07.51 | Tene | sjansen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paamayim_Nekudotayim |
| 18:08.16 | Supaplex | around the whole bayou? you were one big kid! ;) |
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| 18:16.25 | unum | did anyone see the colbert report with chaffetz? |
| 18:16.33 | unum | my favorite line: "how's your black guy doing" |
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| 19:03.47 | bonez | how do I change my screen resolution? all I get is 320x240 or 640x480.. just install 8.10 ubuntu desktop on this machine.. |
| 19:06.13 | levi | Ugh, this class is not very promising so far. |
| 19:09.42 | bonez | which class? |
| 19:09.57 | levi | Numerical Software Development |
| 19:10.17 | bonez | hmmmm |
| 19:10.28 | bonez | I could promise it would be over my head |
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| 19:20.46 | high_roller | bonez what vid card/ |
| 19:20.48 | high_roller | ? |
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| 19:27.08 | sjansen | Numerical Software Development? What's it supposed to be about theoretically? And in reality? |
| 19:27.54 | sjansen | is still bitter about the Distributed Application Development class that turned out to be about nothing but J2EE |
| 19:28.55 | sjansen | Although on the upside, that class did force me discover how insane J2EE was. |
| 19:32.21 | unum | is there a way to limit what ip addresses a specifc login can ssh from |
| 19:32.37 | sjansen | sure |
| 19:36.09 | sjansen | There we go: man pam_access & access.conf |
| 19:38.08 | unum | nice |
| 19:38.10 | unum | thanks |
| 19:38.37 | unum | now an other question: we have several users than need to su to an other non root user |
| 19:38.47 | unum | I was thinking of using sudo to allow them to do that |
| 19:38.56 | unum | is there a better way |
| 19:40.33 | sjansen | I think sudo is the best way. |
| 19:40.47 | sjansen | Unless you want to explore Policy Kit. |
| 19:49.11 | harleypig | Just use a club |
| 19:49.11 | unum | I don't think I want to do that today |
| 20:00.35 | unum | so I added the line -:cfmc:ALL and it to access.conf and it still allowed me to login |
| 20:00.39 | unum | what am I missing |
| 20:08.19 | sjansen | Palm's new phone is looking interesting. |
| 20:09.39 | sjansen | unum: Did you make sure your SSH is using PAM? |
| 20:10.52 | unum | usePAM yes |
| 20:12.41 | Tene | ~quote PALM |
| 20:13.31 | sjansen | unum: Are you using password based auth, or something else? PAM doesn't work with key based, kerberos, etc. |
| 20:14.00 | unum | password based |
| 20:14.15 | Tene | sjansen: kerberos doesn't go through PAM? |
| 20:14.30 | sjansen | Not according to man sshd_config |
| 20:14.36 | Tene | Huh. Weird. |
| 20:16.08 | sjansen | Oh, wait, "this will enable PAM authentication using ChallengeResponseAuthentication and PasswordAuthentication in addition to PAM account and session module processing for all authentication types." |
| 20:16.21 | sjansen | So I guess the limit only applies to PAM auth rules. Makes sense. |
| 20:17.32 | sjansen | unum: Well, I've run out of ideas. I'm going to declare that it's your fault for doing something wrong. |
| 20:18.00 | sjansen | But I won't tell you what so that I don't risk being wrong. |
| 20:18.22 | unum | well thanks for your help |
| 20:20.56 | unum | looks like we are moving away from doing things that way anyways... |
| 20:26.15 | unum | I shouldn't probe our security, it makes me cry |
| 20:32.09 | levi | sjansen: What's interesting about palm's new phone? |
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| 20:35.16 | sjansen | New OS. Nice hardware. |
| 20:35.33 | high_roller | sjansen: it does look cool |
| 20:38.53 | craver | Sysinfo for 'craver-kubuntu': Linux 2.6.24-22-generic running KDE 3.5.10, CPU: AMDAthlon64X2DualCore4800+ at 1000 MHz (1996 bogomips), , RAM: 1875/2013MB, 157 proc's, 29.23d up |
| 20:39.46 | levi | The pre's software interface looks remarkably iPhone-ish. |
| 20:41.11 | high_roller | not sure about the name for the phone though |
| 20:42.48 | levi | The 'WebOS' thing sounds kind of lame, though. |
| 20:43.39 | sjansen | ~quote PALM |
| 20:44.39 | sjansen | The name is lame. They haven't given enough detail about the OS to decide. Some of the apps sound good. |
| 20:45.18 | levi | I hope they have a regular development API and not just a HTML/XML/CSS API. |
| 20:45.43 | levi | Wireless charger is cool. |
| 20:46.40 | high_roller | I'm worried about RFI with that charger |
| 20:47.09 | levi | I'm sure it had to pass RFI inspection. |
| 20:47.32 | high_roller | still ... |
| 20:47.33 | sjansen | ~quote PALM |
| 20:49.07 | levi | I think the charger requires physical contact with a pad or something. |
| 20:50.38 | sjansen | It's probably based on the proximity charging thing some company came up with a couple years ago. Very low range. |
| 20:51.20 | levi | Looks like it has the potential to be really slick. |
| 20:52.21 | levi | The fact that they claim their OS is based on 'open web standards' really bugs me, though. |
| 20:52.35 | levi | 'open web standards' have nothing to do with operating systems! |
| 20:52.54 | levi | But whatever. |
| 20:53.17 | craver | operating systems use open web standards |
| 20:53.36 | craver | i know Windows Vista uses xml web service internally |
| 20:53.47 | levi | If by 'operating system' you mean 'software platform', then perhaps. |
| 20:53.54 | high_roller | is anyone on sprint here? how's the network signal etc. |
| 20:55.09 | levi | I used Sprint with my treo. That was pre-EVDO, though. |
| 20:55.47 | levi | So, the wireless charger does indeed require you to place your phone on a round, raised pad thingy. |
| 20:56.30 | sjansen | ~quote PALM |
| 20:57.03 | high_roller | ~quote RHT |
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| 21:00.56 | levi | It's an inductive charger, so you've got a coil in the pad and a coil in the phone that pass power through induction, like a transformer does. |
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| 21:02.07 | levi | Similar to, if not licensed from, these guys: http://www.splashpower.com/Home |
| 21:02.23 | brac | [Splashpower - wireless power for your mobile devices - Home] |
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| 21:14.04 | levi | _why made a language. |
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| 21:23.16 | sjansen | levi: link? |
| 21:28.11 | elg | sjansen: maybe http://github.com/why/potion |
| 21:41.17 | levi | Yeah, that one. |
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| 21:42.20 | elg | so this rca amplified antenna i got from wal-mart eons ago, i just cannibaliezd for its coax |
| 21:42.27 | elg | i got a twist-on coax terminator |
| 21:42.44 | elg | i go to strip it, and i think i now understand why it sucked so hard |
| 21:43.09 | elg | they really skimped on the coax. the braid is all but non existant |
| 21:43.33 | levi | So, now you have no antenna and crappy coax. |
| 21:43.38 | elg | got it working, but the quality isn't great. |
| 21:43.47 | elg | still, since the signal is strong, it should be enough for my hdhr |
| 21:44.06 | elg | well that antenna i gave up on long ago since my homemade coat hanger antenna without amplifier leaves it in the dust |
| 21:44.24 | levi | Decent coax isn't terribly expensive at Lowes. |
| 21:44.41 | elg | how much do they charge for a patch cable length? |
| 21:45.09 | levi | I don't recall. I bought it in bulk along with ends and a tool. |
| 21:45.26 | levi | The ends are fairly expensive, though, IIRC. |
| 21:45.27 | elg | i'm in death by a thousand coax right now |
| 21:45.50 | elg | radio shack had ends for abt $2 and a crimper for $10 |
| 21:45.56 | elg | didn't look at the cable itself |
| 21:46.06 | elg | cables were $8 for the shortest |
| 21:46.40 | levi | I was wiring my condo, which was quite an adventure. |
| 21:47.01 | levi | Had to cut access to the attic in a closet, which dumped a pile of insulation on me. |
| 21:47.59 | levi | Had to fight with crappy unusable coax that was installed but unused so that I could get it free from the studs and use it to draw the new coax into the attic. |
| 21:48.33 | elg | let's see how many coax cables we have. the one coming out of the wall, coupled to the one going under the rug, split to the modem and toward the tv, which is split to the vcr and the hdhr, and the antenna coax which is split to the dtv box and hdhr, and from the vcr to the rf modulator and from the rf modulator to the tv |
| 21:48.51 | levi | Almost ran out of them, too, which would have meant I'd have to strip a bunch of drywall off to do anything. |
| 21:48.54 | elg | ooh, insulation. fun |
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| 21:49.24 | levi | Whoa, you still have RF modulators? |
| 21:49.32 | elg | yeah old tv only has coax in |
| 21:50.00 | elg | and the el-cheapo home theater thingy (and the dvd player before it) only have modern outputs |
| 21:51.04 | levi | Holy signal degradation, Batman! |
| 21:51.43 | elg | it's good enough for the tv it's on |
| 21:51.54 | elg | it's not a bad tv, but it's nothing special |
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| 21:55.08 | levi | Each split is something like 3.5db of signal loss. |
| 21:55.39 | elg | yeah |
| 21:56.07 | elg | but there's only two splits to the tv/hdhr. you should see the mess at my parent's house |
| 21:56.20 | elg | it's wired for lke umpteen tvs and there's a spider's nest of splitters in the basement |
| 21:56.45 | elg | of course they have only one tv, but we gave up trying to figure out the mess so we could eliminate the extraneous splits |
| 21:57.07 | levi | You could always add an amp on the pre-split signal. |
| 21:58.34 | elg | i could |
| 21:58.52 | elg | if it seems necessary |
| 22:00.44 | levi | This is a good site on cabling: http://www.swhowto.com/VideoLoss.htm |
| 22:00.45 | brac | [Compensate for Video Losses] |
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| 22:26.03 | harleypig | Who wants to see my whale tail?! |
| 22:26.10 | sjansen | http://developer.palm.com/ |
| 22:26.11 | brac | [Palm.com : Palm Developer Network] |
| 22:27.33 | elg | "and handle interruptions and events without losing context. " |
| 22:27.58 | elg | if it can overcome that human limitation it would be cool indeed. |
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| 22:50.56 | unum | so do you need to allow admin access with ldap |
| 22:51.22 | unum | or can you give all privilages to a certain user and disable the admin login |
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| 23:39.28 | unum | so I had to add the the access.conf line to the sshd file in pam.d |
| 23:39.38 | unum | you may have asked me if I did that and I misunderstood you |
| 23:41.25 | sjansen | No, I assumed you already knew or would learn about PAM. |
| 23:45.52 | levi | Now sjansen, you know what happens when you ASSume... :P |
| 23:49.34 | sjansen | *shrug* I help up to the limit I get bored. If you want a longer attention span, pay me. |
| 23:51.07 | sjansen | I knew unum was a smart enough chap, and that the information I'd given him was correct. |
| 23:52.14 | sjansen | Although I guess I have to admit that I've taught PAM so many times, I assume everyone knows it. |