| 00:07.33 | unum | Tene: I want the acl that are assigned to a directory to be applied by default to any files created in that directory |
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| 00:19.28 | elg | hrm, can't figure out why my name servers aren't paying attention to the notifies |
| 00:24.35 | sjansen | Firewall? |
| 00:24.40 | sjansen | It's always the firewall. |
| 00:24.46 | sjansen | Except when it's SELinux. |
| 00:24.58 | undertakingyou | in which case it is always SELinux |
| 00:26.01 | elg | :) |
| 00:26.06 | elg | i don't think it's a firewall |
| 00:26.12 | elg | notify comes over port 53 right? |
| 00:27.44 | sjansen | http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch7/xfer.html |
| 00:27.47 | brac | [DNS BIND Zone Transfers and Updates] |
| 00:28.02 | sjansen | Did you set allow-notify? |
| 00:29.24 | elg | no but my understanding from the manpage is that the default is to allow the zone master. what's more, i do see the occasional log message that it's going to ignore the ntoify from antoehr server (before i turned notify off in the slaves) |
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| 00:57.50 | Sargun | Does twitter have a way to delete old posts? |
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| 01:59.05 | harleypig | Sargun_screen: not that I'm aware of |
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| 02:24.21 | harleypig | argh ... I can't think any more tonight |
| 02:48.45 | elg | ~think harleypig |
| 02:49.35 | tensai | elg: did you allow tcp/53? |
| 02:49.58 | elg | my firewall is, well, not a firewall |
| 02:50.05 | elg | jacob's router may be getting in the way |
| 02:50.22 | elg | but why would it allow udp port 53 and not tcp? |
| 02:50.25 | elg | i'll ask him to check |
| 02:50.48 | tensai | I think notifies are udp though. transfers are tcp, generally. |
| 02:51.30 | elg | rfc1996 says they can be either, but should usually be udp. i don't knowwhat bind does |
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| 03:20.47 | harleypig | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:26.28 | Sargun | harleypig, what's wrong with watching someone get an autopsy? |
| 03:26.47 | Sargun | Aren't autopsies open to public scrutiny? |
| 03:27.35 | undertakingyou | Sargun: o.O |
| 03:30.07 | Sargun | I mean, if the kids wanted to go see the autopsy, and the coroner gives tours of the autopsies, what's wrong with it? |
| 03:33.33 | JoshH | went to bodyworlds today |
| 03:36.53 | Sargun | I wonder if being a pedophile is still illegal, if its of a dead body |
| 03:56.06 | jasonpr | hey is || the same as && only it executes regardless of the exit code of the first process in bash? |
| 03:57.27 | redbeard2 | jasonpr: || only executes if the exit code of the preceeding process is non-zero |
| 03:58.08 | jasonpr | ah... |
| 03:58.47 | jasonpr | ; separates multiple commands that all get executed? |
| 03:59.29 | redbeard2 | yeah |
| 04:02.14 | jasonpr | Thanks you can continue the necrophilia pedophile conversation now |
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| 05:38.26 | fozzmoo | What?! you guys started the necrophiliac pedophile conversation without me?! |
| 05:49.21 | harleypig | Sargun: Did you read the article? The kids saw his friends autopsy. |
| 05:50.04 | Sargun | yeah |
| 05:50.12 | harleypig | That's the wtf part. |
| 05:50.15 | Sargun | kids saw their |
| 05:50.45 | harleypig | I doubt it was on purpose ... just one of those unfortunate coincidences. |
| 06:42.47 | levi | Man, ALSA is a pain. |
| 06:43.19 | Sargun | levi, compared to? |
| 06:43.28 | levi | I don't know, something sane? |
| 06:43.50 | levi | I'm trying to get MythMusic to play through the digital output. |
| 06:44.01 | levi | TV and videos already do. |
| 06:44.22 | levi | music used to play through the analog out, but after some fiddling, it doesn't even do that anymore. |
| 06:50.28 | Sargun | What picture is better: http://sargun.smugmug.com/gallery/7034129_ccGpt#447796578_qRCzn-A-LB or http://sargun.smugmug.com/gallery/7034129_ccGpt#450438838_EgiJu-A-LB |
| 07:10.53 | levi | There, it finally works. |
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| 16:30.28 | levi | elg: Seen this? http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2005/05/tiny-music-makers-pt-3-thx-sound.html |
| 16:38.27 | maquis | that's pretty sweet |
| 16:38.34 | maquis | yawns, rubbing her eyes |
| 16:38.45 | maquis | sleeping for an hour on the bus does not make contacts happy |
| 16:41.17 | Sargun | maquis, Get glasses, they're far more geeky. |
| 16:46.02 | craver | taking the back roads was faster for me this morning. |
| 16:46.17 | craver | too many slow drivers out there. |
| 16:47.10 | elg | levi: not that particular article maybe but i've read about the thx sound before |
| 16:49.50 | tensai | ~lart MS project server |
| 16:49.50 | ibot | squishes MS project server like a bug |
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| 17:09.02 | tensai | why must delicious sign me out every 2 weeks? |
| 17:09.13 | maquis | tensai: agreed |
| 17:09.22 | tensai | if they wanted to make their service less useful, they sure found a great way to do it |
| 17:09.57 | rsimpkins | undertakingyou: Didn't mean to leave you hanging last night. Yup, still at the same place. |
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| 17:13.17 | findlay | hello |
| 17:17.27 | findlay | -chat ~onjoin findlay |
| 17:17.28 | brac | ~onjoin findlay -chat ~say -chat ~lart Supaplex |
| 17:17.28 | ibot | ok, brac |
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| 17:27.32 | ^Migs^ | Today's my daughter's 4 year birthday. Last night I blew up a ton of balloons, and I was going to place them in her bed this morning, so she'd wake up to them. But when I went in early, she was already awake :( |
| 17:27.35 | ^Migs^ | I thought it was such a great idea, too |
| 17:27.59 | unum | so does any have an answer to my question about how to make the same acls that are set on a directory apply to file created in the directory by default |
| 17:30.14 | craver | anyone here use x11vnc? |
| 17:32.41 | findlay | ^Migs^: now you can just throw them at her |
| 17:34.34 | Sargun | craver, sure. |
| 17:34.40 | Sargun | ^Migs^, congrats |
| 17:34.56 | craver | Sargun: i can't seem to get it to connect |
| 17:34.58 | Sargun | ^Migs^, that is a fairly good idea. |
| 17:36.46 | findlay | is x11vnc newer/better than realvnc? |
| 17:37.02 | craver | it's just different |
| 17:37.06 | craver | but has its uses |
| 17:37.45 | findlay | judging from the screenshots, it's been around for a while |
| 17:38.52 | unum | hmm google seems to be saying I can't do what I want to do |
| 17:39.13 | Sargun | craver, connection to X, or connecting over VNC? |
| 17:40.26 | craver | getting: x11vnc was unable to open the X DISPLAY |
| 17:41.43 | craver | 1. ssh from host to remote. 2. set my display variable to host:0. 3. start x11vnc. |
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| 17:42.21 | findlay | do you need to ssh -X? |
| 17:42.37 | Sargun | craver, What distro? |
| 17:43.05 | craver | host = ubuntu 8.04 + kde. remote = centos 5.2 + gnome |
| 17:48.44 | Sargun | craver, where is your x11 cookie? |
| 17:49.04 | Sargun | Er, or auth file |
| 17:49.29 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:49.47 | Sargun | or else $HOME/.Xauthority |
| 17:49.48 | Sargun | craver, |
| 17:50.12 | Sargun | stabs craver |
| 17:50.31 | Sargun | Me, pay attention to me, over here! |
| 17:50.51 | Sargun | Anyways, I'm leaving to a meeting, be back later |
| 17:51.06 | findlay | whatever Sargun, like you know everything |
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| 17:58.15 | Sargun | findlay, I do. |
| 17:59.44 | tensai | Sargun: what did I eat for breakfast? |
| 18:00.28 | Sargun | nevermind, meeting cancelled. |
| 18:07.30 | undertakingyou | rsimpkins: cool, no worries. |
| 18:11.56 | Sargun | Sony should rename the PS3 to super computing cell, double the price, and sell it. |
| 18:12.06 | Sargun | without all the annoying protection |
| 18:15.39 | high_roller | they need to add more RAM to the PS3 as well |
| 18:17.02 | elg | harleypig: wanna go skiing? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7816336.stm |
| 18:17.06 | brac | [BBC NEWS | Americas | Chairlift mishap strips US skier] |
| 18:20.56 | elg | http://mantic59.blogspot.com/2009/01/yellow-line.html |
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| 18:26.33 | elg | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7813527.stm |
| 18:26.37 | brac | [BBC NEWS | Technology | Apple to end music restrictions] |
| 18:27.08 | tensai | elg: that was so yesterday's topic |
| 18:27.18 | elg | i was in my own lala land yesterday :) |
| 18:27.26 | tensai | ~drm elg |
| 18:29.13 | Sargun | Grr, who designed bash |
| 18:29.47 | harleypig | elg: :D That's funny |
| 18:33.27 | fozzmoo | Sargun: That would be Stephen Bourne, of course. |
| 18:33.44 | fozzmoo | He was the original designer. Bash is based on his work. |
| 18:34.27 | fozzmoo | Sargun: It looks like Brian Fox and Chet Ramey are the ones primarily responsible. |
| 18:34.37 | fozzmoo | that is, for bash itself. |
| 18:40.16 | findlay | don't worry, they'll get punished for what they're responsible ... if they haven't already |
| 18:43.30 | Sargun | Who made the syntax |
| 18:49.44 | findlay | why, that was Igor Syntax, of course |
| 18:50.11 | findlay | ~lart me |
| 18:50.11 | ibot | grabs a large, mis-shapened log, with squirrels, and beats findlay until only the nuts remain ... which the squirrels run off with |
| 18:50.21 | findlay | -lart ibot |
| 18:50.21 | brac | pokes ibot with a rusty nail |
| 19:01.54 | levi | bash syntax is largely Bourne syntax, so you can blame him. |
| 19:04.10 | levi | Bourne was insane. He used C macros to make the shell source code look like Algol. |
| 19:04.52 | elg | ~lart debian and ubuntu |
| 19:04.52 | ibot | cuts off debian and ubuntu's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper |
| 19:05.07 | elg | i had such a screwed up cups config and i couldn't figure out how to fix it. everything looked like it should work |
| 19:05.20 | elg | finally i scrapped it, cut and pasted from http://www.linuxprinting.org/~till/printing-tutorial/tut.html#1_3 on both hosts |
| 19:05.22 | elg | and instantly it worked fine |
| 19:05.59 | levi | http://minnie.tuhs.org/UnixTree/V7/usr/src/cmd/sh/ |
| 19:06.01 | brac | [Index of V7/usr/src/cmd/sh] |
| 19:06.15 | levi | That's the original Bourne shell source code. |
| 19:08.22 | elg | well my first impression quality-wise of this cable internet is that it's laggy |
| 19:08.37 | elg | which translates to it feels slow |
| 19:08.45 | elg | no matter what my mbit down is |
| 19:09.04 | levi | Maybe you've got a crowded network. |
| 19:09.23 | levi | What kind of ping times do you get? |
| 19:09.39 | levi | If you think that's bad, you should try satellite internet. |
| 19:10.58 | elg | hmm, good ping times |
| 19:11.06 | elg | ah, there's some bad ones |
| 19:11.17 | elg | i was seeing < 100ms, now jumped to 4500 ms |
| 19:11.27 | elg | it is intermittent |
| 19:11.52 | elg | it doesn't surprise me greatly. probably some p2p guy in the neighborhood |
| 19:12.04 | elg | or maybe just sucky comcast. who knows :) |
| 19:12.33 | elg | it's just interesting that although i have all this bandwidth it feels slower than dsl, even just web browsing (but especially with ssh) |
| 19:12.59 | Sargun | elg, DSL? |
| 19:13.03 | elg | i had dsl |
| 19:13.11 | elg | until my isp went to war with qwest |
| 19:13.15 | Sargun | elg, DSL is "dedicated" last mile. |
| 19:13.19 | Sargun | elg, who was your ISP |
| 19:13.23 | elg | zianet |
| 19:13.28 | elg | owned by skywi |
| 19:13.33 | Sargun | SkyWing? |
| 19:13.39 | elg | no, skywi |
| 19:13.40 | Sargun | ah |
| 19:13.57 | Sargun | elg, you can't get Covad? |
| 19:15.34 | elg | sure i can, for only a 2 year contract at $250/month |
| 19:15.40 | Sargun | ouch |
| 19:15.45 | Sargun | are you in the boonies |
| 19:15.54 | elg | nope |
| 19:16.41 | elg | there are several DSL ISPs here but they all suck. they also all share one thing: I pay qwest |
| 19:17.28 | elg | this cable deal is $30/month, it'll be hard to beat that with any dsl setup. i'm just observing that "cable is faster" isn't unilaterally true |
| 19:17.46 | elg | which we all knew, but now have one more bit of anecdotal evidence for |
| 19:18.07 | levi | As always, it depends on what you mean by 'faster'. :) |
| 19:18.24 | elg | yup |
| 19:18.33 | Sargun | Anyone know where I can get a table of notes, and the tempo (notes/second) for a song? |
| 19:18.51 | levi | The music store? |
| 19:18.59 | Sargun | levi, In a computerized format |
| 19:18.59 | elg | later i'll have to try setting qos bits (my qos setup got wiped out in the great reshuffling) and see if that makes any difference |
| 19:19.13 | Sargun | elg, QoS doesn't help most of the time. |
| 19:19.17 | elg | i can't imagine this is going to be good for voip |
| 19:19.21 | Sargun | elg, we drop the QoS bit at the edge. |
| 19:19.30 | elg | most do |
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| 19:19.37 | levi | Music rights holders aren't typically fond of having those things in electronic format. |
| 19:19.49 | Sargun | levi, what about public domain music |
| 19:19.57 | elg | it's the first few hops that make the difference |
| 19:19.59 | levi | Midi files. |
| 19:20.48 | levi | Comcast doesn't want you to do your own voip. |
| 19:20.59 | levi | Their own voip works pretty well for what it is, though. |
| 19:21.04 | elg | they bragged about being compatible with vonage |
| 19:21.16 | levi | Huh. |
| 19:21.39 | neybar | is there a way to set a umask on a directory, so that _anyone_ that writes to it gets that same umask? |
| 19:22.07 | Sargun | elg, you have comcraptic |
| 19:22.23 | neybar | The only way that I can see to do what I want is to make sure that each user has the right umask, but even then I only want that umask for the dir, not everywhere. |
| 19:22.25 | elg | how observant |
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| 19:26.03 | elg | maybe qos will help. it helped this dude. of course that was 2006.. |
| 19:26.03 | elg | http://www.vonage-forum.com/ftopic11978.html |
| 19:26.04 | brac | [Vonage VoIP Forum: You are using an invalid IP] |
| 19:38.23 | levi | Here's an interesting history of unix shells: http://www.in-ulm.de/~mascheck/bourne/korn.html |
| 19:38.26 | brac | [Article by David Korn] |
| 19:43.44 | sjansen | What's up with the commies making our money funny colors? |
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| 19:48.14 | sjansen | ibot: I'm in! |
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| 19:55.07 | sjansen | ibot: Take me with you! |
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| 20:06.07 | elg | ~onjoin harleypig Make the bad man stop! |
| 20:06.07 | ibot | elg: ok |
| 20:11.15 | tensai | got a portable dvd player for the kids for christmas and it stopped working. should I get a refund or replacement? |
| 20:12.40 | elg | did you like it? |
| 20:13.12 | tensai | I used it twice. it seemed fine enough though. |
| 20:13.38 | elg | do you suspect the manufacturer manufactures goods or trash? which is more convenient? |
| 20:13.47 | tensai | it had good reviews on amazon. the company has been rather difficult to work with. their ivr hung up on me. |
| 20:14.00 | elg | anomalies happen, if this could be an anomoly just replace it |
| 20:14.09 | sjansen | You should get a refund and send the money to me in an unmarked envelope. |
| 20:14.12 | elg | well don't offend it |
| 20:14.20 | elg | IVRs are sensitive |
| 20:14.29 | elg | i was calling one the other day, and it happened i had to call like 3 times |
| 20:14.32 | elg | oh it was Qwest |
| 20:14.55 | elg | and every time this stupid IVR guy would go on and on about you are calling from 5 7 5 6 4 6 ... |
| 20:15.11 | elg | and then to add insult to injury I had to speak instead of push buttons |
| 20:15.36 | tensai | I hate the speaky ivrs |
| 20:15.38 | elg | whenever that happens i like to pretend someone might monitor my call and see how fast i can get to "representativ" |
| 20:15.57 | elg | and make my voice as irritated as possible |
| 20:15.58 | elg | it helps |
| 20:16.07 | tensai | the qwest guy especially. he tries to be all friendly and cool. |
| 20:16.20 | sjansen | "representative" "operator" "help" "let me speak to a human you stupid machine" |
| 20:16.32 | sjansen | That's my basic approach when a machine is being unhelpful. |
| 20:16.56 | tensai | gaelic is the answer |
| 20:17.41 | elg | i think this would be more constructive: "what are you wearing? are you doing anything tonight? ¿hablas español? ¿disfrutas una manzana?" |
| 20:19.55 | tensai | so amazon's returns department first claims they have no replacement policy, but instead I can get a refund and then re-order the item. but on the very next page they offer me a replacement alternative. |
| 20:20.03 | tensai | maquis: you should fix that |
| 20:23.09 | goozbach | elg: do you like an apple? |
| 20:23.47 | elg | si, garcias |
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| 20:24.21 | tensai | well I went for the replacement |
| 20:35.51 | elg | ~validate tensai |
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| 20:59.44 | harleypig | wth is going on with my connection?! |
| 21:01.21 | goozbach | tensai: here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbk980jV7Ao |
| 21:01.27 | goozbach | ^^^ Validation |
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| 21:31.55 | tensai | elg: I found out that dns serial numbers are unsigned 32 bit integers that wrap |
| 21:32.32 | elg | yes, that's true |
| 21:32.43 | elg | so if you need to reset them you set it to 2^32 -1 |
| 21:33.13 | elg | i found out that my bind was indeed sending notifies (accd to tcpdump) and my other bind was indeed heeding them, when it got them |
| 21:33.29 | elg | alas, the notifies get lost somewhere in the middle |
| 21:34.00 | elg | which is very very odd |
| 21:36.04 | elg | so i set it to also-notify the vpn address and it works everyt ime |
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| 21:47.55 | harleypig | Let's see how long I can stay up this time... |
| 21:48.55 | goozbach | badump bump ching! |
| 21:56.51 | Jayce^ | that's what... oh heck.. |
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| 22:04.02 | sjansen | Look, a harleypig! |
| 22:04.21 | elg | pay attention children. you don't see one of those every day. |
| 22:04.26 | goozbach | bouncy bouncy bouncy! |
| 22:04.32 | goozbach | I mean.... |
| 22:05.18 | harleypig | :D |
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| 22:06.52 | harleypig | wtf |
| 22:06.52 | redbeard2 | ~stop harleypig |
| 22:06.52 | ibot | ACTION leaps to his feet and stops harleypig |
| 22:07.35 | harleypig | this is really screwing up my idlerpg stats!' |
| 22:10.25 | redbeard2 | ~idlerpg harleypig |
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| 22:12.56 | sjansen | harleypig: You shouldn't unplug your laptop until the battery is charged. |
| 22:13.33 | redbeard2 | harleypig: you also shouldn't unplug it while the battery is also unplugged |
| 22:14.39 | sjansen | harleypig: Flipping circuit breakers to the beat of a techno song is also a bad idea. |
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| 22:16.24 | craver | wtf ibot |
| 22:20.28 | redbeard2 | harleypig: have you tried the Any key? |
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| 22:21.39 | goozbach | no, DON'T HIT THE ANY KEY!!! |
| 22:21.52 | goozbach | that's what causes this |
| 22:22.32 | redbeard2 | goozbach: you think he was confusing the any key with the power button? |
| 22:22.51 | goozbach | redbeard2: I wired his any key to the power button |
| 22:23.01 | redbeard2 | harleypig: try the other key |
| 22:24.23 | tensai | ~onjoin -harleypig |
| 22:24.24 | ibot | tensai: ok |
| 22:25.19 | redbeard2 | ~onjoin harleypig No, not that ANY key! The other one! |
| 22:25.19 | ibot | ok, redbeard2 |
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| 22:28.31 | redbeard2 | goozbach: i don't think harleypig is learning |
| 22:29.22 | Jayce^ | redbeard2, you think you'd learn with harleypig : http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=3588 |
| 22:30.57 | redbeard2 | ~unsee harleypig |
| 22:33.49 | harleypig | well, hopefully I've at least isolated the thing that was causing this. |
| 22:34.04 | harleypig | (twirssi ... but I think my hack b0rked it) |
| 22:35.50 | redbeard2 | harleypig: are you sure it isn't a pebkac error? |
| 22:40.09 | harleypig | redbeard2: nope |
| 22:45.24 | sjansen | redbeard2: The shameful truth is that harleypig has developed a dangerous habit of licking the power outlet his laptop is plugged into. |
| 22:46.54 | redbeard2 | sjansen: the shocking truth |
| 22:48.39 | redbeard2 | ~jolt harleypig |
| 22:48.48 | redbeard2 | ~zap harleypig |
| 22:48.49 | ibot | ACTION takes out a cattle prod and gives harleypig a good jolt. |
| 22:54.12 | sjansen | ~cook redbeard2 |
| 22:54.13 | ibot | ACTION throws redbeard2 in a big pan with veggies inside and cooks redbeard2 on 350 for an hour |
| 22:54.15 | sjansen | ~bake redbeard2 |
| 22:54.16 | ibot | ACTION introduces redbeard2 to Cheech and Chong |
| 22:54.32 | redbeard2 | ~brulee sjansen |
| 22:54.33 | ibot | ACTION whisks sjansen with eggs and cream, and bakes at 350F before sprinkling with sugar and torching |
| 22:55.30 | tensai | ~jolt $foo is <action> takes out a cattle prod and gives $foo a good zap |
| 22:55.31 | ibot | okay, tensai |
| 22:56.59 | sjansen | tensai: *groan* |
| 22:58.14 | Jayce^ | http://scifiwire.com/2009/01/invite-darth-vader-over-for-target-practiceas-the-target.php |
| 22:58.15 | brac | [SCI FI Wire: Invite Darth Vader over for target practiceÂas the target!] |
| 22:58.16 | redbeard2 | ~jolt sjansen |
| 22:58.17 | ibot | ACTION takes out a cattle prod and gives sjansen a good zap |
| 22:58.22 | Jayce^ | the second image on the page is the best |
| 22:58.28 | Jayce^ | goozbach will love it |
| 22:58.53 | redbeard2 | Jayce^: i like the freddy one |
| 23:00.02 | goozbach | nice |
| 23:00.33 | harleypig | crosses his fingers and loads twirssi again |
| 23:01.10 | elg | ~cross harleypig |
| 23:02.58 | redbeard2 | ~unload harleypig |
| 23:06.23 | elg | -chat now i |
| 23:06.24 | brac | now i have a voicemail with a business acct |
| 23:17.00 | elg | so my f-i-l has a dell that came with xp home and the key is on the side of the case but the install disk is lost |
| 23:19.19 | elg | oh, and needs to install windows |
| 23:20.00 | elg | slow system, crash, then we put linux on. it's been doing great but when it goes south i'm 800 miles away and if it has windows i can wash my hands of it |
| 23:36.23 | unum | so apparntly the length proprety of javascript arrays does not work if you are using an associative array |
| 23:37.31 | craver | any dell repair disk will work... it's not specific to the machine. |
| 23:37.49 | craver | or you can just pull down a xp home oem iso and install it. |
| 23:38.55 | elg | well, he has an older dell cd from his previous dell that didn't work. if i understand right. it didn't accept his key |
| 23:39.16 | craver | it has to be a home edition oem copy. |
| 23:39.28 | craver | professional or non-oem will not accept the key |
| 23:39.32 | elg | i found an xp home oem dell disc, i'll send it to him and see |
| 23:39.44 | craver | should work, i do it all the time. |
| 23:39.45 | elg | right, but they were both oem, i would assume |
| 23:40.04 | elg | maybe the first one was pro |
| 23:40.17 | elg | wonder what he did with the old case... |
| 23:40.31 | craver | use the magic jelly bean keyfinder to pull the key off the machine. maybe it wasn't installed with the key on the outside of the box. |
| 23:42.03 | craver | i use drivermax and nlite to create an installation cd for all the workstations at my office. that way i don't have to worry about keys or drivers and crap. |
| 23:42.13 | unum | oh according to the mozilla website you should not use associative arrays |
| 23:42.25 | craver | just stick the cd inside the case for a backup. |
| 23:43.55 | harleypig | Well, I'm still up ... wheee! |
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