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| 00:12.35 | toelovell | quick question for any perl masters out there. i have some perl that has an array of elements. i want to make sure that each one of those elements is one of a a few options. what are ways to do this? |
| 00:14.52 | Sargun | stop using perl |
| 00:15.07 | Sargun | I would also try #perl |
| 00:15.13 | toelovell | i don't like using it but unfortunately i don't have a choice |
| 00:15.42 | Sargun | why? |
| 00:16.07 | toelovell | not my code base. |
| 00:16.41 | Sargun | The answer is easy, rewrite the entire thing |
| 00:17.47 | Sargun | in Python. |
| 00:18.33 | Sargun | I'd do it something like for i in listA: if i not in listB: raise Exception("You dolt") |
| 00:21.25 | toelovell | yeah. i know how to do it in python. i just need to do it in perl. |
| 00:24.47 | tensai | ~ignore Sargun |
| 00:25.16 | ibot | ACTION sticks her fingers in her ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, Sargun!" |
| 00:25.17 | tensai | toelovell: could you use getopt? |
| 00:26.02 | toelovell | i don't think so. |
| 00:26.22 | toelovell | these aren't options specified as command line options |
| 00:26.42 | tensai | ok. can you give me an idea of what you've got? |
| 00:29.11 | toelovell | i have an simple array of configuration items. i already am iterating over the array to do some work on the items and do some morphing of the items. i want to make sure that each item in the list is one of a few acceptable options. |
| 00:29.19 | toelovell | i hope that explains it. |
| 00:29.38 | tensai | if you put your acceptable list in a hash, the lookup is really simple |
| 00:30.18 | toelovell | that is kind of what i am getting from some googling but seem to be screwing it up somehow. |
| 00:30.25 | toelovell | here is an example. |
| 00:30.56 | tensai | http://paste.lisp.org/display/72985 |
| 00:31.18 | toelovell | my %options = ['fd' => 0, 'cdrom' => 0, 'hd' => 0, 'network' => 0]; |
| 00:31.18 | toelovell | my $option = 'cdrom'; |
| 00:31.18 | toelovell | if (exists($options{$option})) { print 'yay'; } else { print 'oh noes'; } |
| 00:31.27 | toelovell | i always get oh noes |
| 00:34.45 | toelovell | doh. it was cause i used [] instead of () on the %options line |
| 00:44.51 | sjansen | ~punish Sargun |
| 00:44.53 | ibot | ACTION forces Sargun to install and use Windows |
| 00:47.51 | sjansen | toelovell: You've just stumbled into Perl's "references" syntax. In my opinion, references are one of the hardest things to learn in Perl. Useful. Critical if you want to write anything other than Mickey Mouse code. But messy and confusing at first. |
| 00:48.27 | sjansen | Perl references make learning pointers look easy. |
| 00:48.38 | sjansen | IMNSHO |
| 00:48.57 | toelovell | i think perl in general makes learning pointers look easy. :) |
| 00:51.26 | sjansen | Don't get me wrong, I love Perl. But it is very obviously optimized for experienced, determined programmers, not newbies. |
| 00:52.05 | toelovell | i still consider myself a programming newbie. i usually try to avoid it. |
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| 00:53.35 | sjansen | I wouldn't recommend avoiding Perl. Learning it can be fun, even if you decide not to make it your primary language. |
| 00:53.56 | toelovell | i meant avoid programming in general |
| 00:54.05 | toelovell | not just perl |
| 00:55.17 | sjansen | More than any other language, Perl is a mutt. It has absorbed a little of every major programming paradigm. Learning Perl in depth will prepare you to discover that procedural and object oriented aren't the only options. |
| 00:55.53 | toelovell | it will teach you that there are 400 options for everything. |
| 00:55.55 | toelovell | :) |
| 00:57.42 | sjansen | Or the reverse. As you learn different paradigms (procedural, object oriented, functional, declarative, lazy, etc.), you'll discover that Perl allows you to mix more of what learn than most language. |
| 00:59.00 | toelovell | just out of curiosity, do you use any particular IDE or editor for coding in perl? i am giving eclipse with the perl extensions a try. |
| 00:59.09 | toelovell | i usually just use vim |
| 01:03.29 | sjansen | Vim. |
| 01:03.49 | sjansen | Only language I use an IDE for is Java. |
| 01:23.52 | unum | I'll use gedit sometimes :) |
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| 02:26.28 | maquis | any debian users here who can help with a *really* newbie-ish problem? |
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| 02:27.03 | maquis | elg: you use debian, right? |
| 02:27.12 | elg | debian uses me |
| 02:27.36 | maquis | elg: cool... you just barely missed my question as to whether anybody who knows debian can help me with a newbie problem |
| 02:27.53 | elg | well then since you haven't actually asked your question, maybe i haven't missed it. :) |
| 02:27.59 | maquis | :) |
| 02:28.30 | maquis | i'm trying to do an apt-get build-dep, and i keep getting the error that /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_lenny_main_source_Sources doesn't exist |
| 02:28.30 | maquis | which... it doesn't exist, so the error is correct |
| 02:28.41 | maquis | i'm just not sure why |
| 02:28.51 | maquis | i've got the following line in my sources.list: |
| 02:28.56 | maquis | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free multiverse |
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| 02:30.09 | maquis | actually, in the update, it looks like it's getting a 404 when it tries to get that... but i'm not sure why |
| 02:30.30 | maquis | nm... that's a different one it's failing on |
| 02:31.48 | maquis | ls /var/lib/apt/lists | grep -i source returns nothing, so i'm guessing none of my apt-get updates are actually grabbing the source package lists |
| 02:33.51 | elg | so take it out of the sources.list and update again |
| 02:34.07 | elg | oh, different one |
| 02:34.39 | maquis | yeah... i cleared it out so that now the multiverse ones i have are the only ones that are getting 404s... but i still can't seem to get any of the source lists |
| 02:34.50 | maquis | i'm sure it's something stupid.... |
| 02:35.10 | elg | hmm. have you tried commenting out all the ones giving 404? |
| 02:36.05 | elg | so does it look like it's getting that sources one when you do update? |
| 02:37.30 | maquis | ok... i just commented out half my sources.list... |
| 02:37.54 | maquis | aha! that did it. thanks, elg... i didn't realize it gave up when it got a 404 for one item... |
| 02:38.04 | elg | i don't think that it does |
| 02:38.05 | maquis | i thought it got what it could, and just ignored the 404s |
| 02:38.05 | elg | that's odd |
| 02:38.20 | elg | von has run into issues about it complaining he had too many sources. maybe htat? |
| 02:38.32 | maquis | i don't think i have too many... :) but that's okay |
| 02:38.36 | maquis | thanks a ton for the help!!! |
| 02:38.40 | elg | neither does he. ;) |
| 02:38.49 | maquis | heh |
| 02:38.59 | maquis | i'm trying to get gtkpod to play nicely |
| 02:39.12 | maquis | ooh... is apt-get build-dep gtkpod supposed to reinstall the world? |
| 02:39.22 | elg | if it depends on the world, sure :) |
| 02:39.48 | maquis | well... like... gcc, g++, cups, gpg, etc |
| 02:40.10 | elg | you don't already have them? |
| 02:40.11 | maquis | ooh... it wants to upgrade abiword while it's at it |
| 02:40.46 | maquis | i dunno... maybe i don't, i guess... i haven't done any development on this box... |
| 02:40.48 | maquis | weird |
| 02:41.02 | maquis | cups is on here, though |
| 02:47.37 | maquis | doh... apt hates me again :( |
| 02:47.40 | levi | maquis: What are you doing with debian? |
| 02:47.54 | maquis | levi: apparently something wrong |
| 02:48.10 | maquis | lots of apt-get -f installs |
| 02:48.18 | levi | Heh. |
| 02:48.31 | levi | I'm watching Return of the Jedi. |
| 02:48.55 | maquis | i'm trying to get gtkpod to let me copy movies to my phone |
| 02:49.09 | levi | Ahh, an iPhone? |
| 02:49.22 | maquis | yup |
| 02:49.30 | levi | It's really easy with Windows and iTunes. :) |
| 02:49.37 | maquis | :P |
| 02:49.38 | levi | Or OS X and iTunes. |
| 02:50.02 | maquis | i want the twilight movie... but unfortunately, it's not available on dvd yet... 1.5 months... |
| 02:50.13 | maquis | (approximately... the date hasn't been officailly announced yet) |
| 02:50.39 | levi | Well, as long as you're downloading stuff illegally, you might as well download Windows or OS X or something useful. ;) |
| 02:53.34 | maquis | downloading stuff illegally? |
| 02:53.36 | maquis | wha? |
| 02:53.43 | maquis | i aint doin nothin of the sort |
| 02:53.51 | levi | Oh, I thought you were going to download the Twilight movie. |
| 02:53.54 | maquis | no |
| 02:54.01 | maquis | i'm going to buy the dvd the day it comes out... |
| 02:54.13 | maquis | and i've got all the sample clips that have been released... |
| 02:54.28 | levi | Poor maquis. |
| 02:54.41 | maquis | what? |
| 02:54.45 | elg | do you think they'll do a sequel? |
| 02:54.48 | maquis | i aint addicted... really |
| 02:55.00 | maquis | elg: they're starting filming on the 2nd and 3rd (simultaneous filming |
| 02:55.04 | maquis | ) in march |
| 02:55.21 | levi | I'm sad that the Narnia films are having trouble. |
| 02:55.26 | maquis | but they canned the director from the first one... and i think that's gonna be bad |
| 02:55.39 | elg | speaking of which i need to move that up my netflix queue or we'll never get it watched (caspian) |
| 02:55.56 | maquis | i don't like the new director much... and summit is trying to push the movies through as fast as they can, and not taking the time to do it right |
| 02:56.12 | elg | what else do you do with a cash cow? |
| 02:56.16 | levi | elg: Caspian was pretty good. I liked it. |
| 02:56.16 | maquis | they didn't like catherine hardwick because she insisted on doing the movie correctly rather than quickly |
| 02:56.28 | maquis | elg: it's not going to be a very good cash cow if you starve it |
| 02:57.28 | levi | maquis: Are you kidding? You're talking about people who bought Twilight in the first place. Quality is not a prerequisite for sales. ;) |
| 02:57.57 | maquis | ~lart levi |
| 02:57.57 | ibot | gives levi an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending levi to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple |
| 02:58.18 | maquis | i liked the books and the first movie |
| 02:58.37 | maquis | well, the 4th book wasn't as good as the others... but the first 3 were all really good |
| 02:58.59 | levi | Well, we all like some crap things. |
| 02:59.11 | levi | I mean, I'm watching Star Wars. ;) |
| 02:59.19 | maquis | :P |
| 02:59.57 | levi | Star Wars is totally better than Twilight, though. :P |
| 03:00.53 | maquis | levi: peter facinelli as carlisle is better-looking than *any* character in star wars |
| 03:00.57 | maquis | ... |
| 03:01.21 | maquis | urgh... this thing is *still* giving the same error |
| 03:01.27 | maquis | these instructions suck |
| 03:02.16 | levi | maquis: Another reason why Star Wars is way better! |
| 03:02.56 | levi | A movie that stands solely on how good looking the cast members are is clearly crap. ;) |
| 03:03.16 | maquis | i didn't say that was the only reason it was good... |
| 03:03.28 | levi | But it was the first comparison you made. |
| 03:03.32 | maquis | although.... between him and kellan lutz and jackson rathbone... well... it's definitely a factor... :P |
| 03:03.34 | levi | Star Wars has Harrison Ford. |
| 03:03.50 | maquis | (and no, i don't really care for rob pattinson...) |
| 03:04.23 | levi | I don't know who any of those tweenie-heartthrob losers are. ;P |
| 03:07.21 | levi | (my wife would probably slap me if she saw this conversation. ;) ) |
| 03:07.59 | maquis | good... |
| 03:08.57 | maquis | peter facinelli isn't one of the tweenie-heartthrob losers... he's there for the adults |
| 03:09.00 | maquis | :P |
| 03:12.27 | maquis | doesn't understand why removing gtkpod removes libsane and openprinting-ppds, but is slightly concerned about it |
| 03:19.20 | maquis | anyone know any funny songs to use for pager ringtones? |
| 03:19.38 | maquis | christmas at ground-zero isn't appropriate for it anymore, so i'm trying to pick a new one |
| 03:19.48 | maquis | and so far, the best i've come up with is Hamster Dance |
| 03:21.26 | maquis | that or the chorus to Enough is Enough from Eli Young Band... although i'd rather stick that on the pagers of some other people |
| 03:21.27 | elg | badger badger badger badger |
| 03:24.28 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:29.49 | maquis | yargh!!!!! why is it so hard to convince gtkpod that it should like this stuff |
| 03:29.50 | maquis | ? |
| 03:35.12 | maquis | elg: if i install something manually from source, is there something i need to do so that apt/aptitude know that it's installed? |
| 03:35.47 | eightyeight | so, the U is in the lead, and just scored another touchdown. aren't they supposed to be the underdogs in this bowl? |
| 03:37.05 | elg | manually as in make; make install? |
| 03:37.15 | maquis | elg: yes... i'm crossing my fingers that this might work |
| 03:37.20 | elg | apt won't know about it |
| 03:37.24 | elg | well, there is equivs |
| 03:37.39 | elg | i've nver done that, but it's a way to tell apt to pretend something is installed |
| 03:37.51 | elg | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-helpers.en.html |
| 03:37.53 | brac | [APT HOWTO - Very useful helpers] |
| 03:38.19 | maquis | cool... thanks |
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| 04:28.33 | null_403 | fuck your state |
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| 04:29.39 | eightyeight | cute |
| 04:31.20 | eightyeight | heh. he's in #ubuntu |
| 04:42.43 | levi | Send him our love. |
| 04:43.24 | eightyeight | already did. thanked him for his appreciation |
| 04:44.08 | rsimpkins | What a mess on the roads tonight. |
| 04:44.12 | rsimpkins | Glad I'm at home. |
| 04:44.18 | eightyeight | as he's not regged with nickserv, and i'm intentionally blocking pms from non-regged nicks, i have no idea if he's saying anything to me in pm or not. :) |
| 04:44.59 | rsimpkins | eightyeight: I found out that he lives in Ohio in an apartment complex, but that's about it. |
| 04:45.18 | rsimpkins | I tried to chat with him for a little while. He's just being annoying. |
| 04:45.31 | eightyeight | heh. some bored teenager on a friday night? |
| 04:45.41 | rsimpkins | yup. |
| 04:45.59 | rsimpkins | Once I nailed him, he said 'oh, i steal wifi from people who live in aparments' |
| 04:46.05 | rsimpkins | that's the only non offensive thing he said. |
| 04:46.39 | eightyeight | heh |
| 04:46.53 | eightyeight | he's been cordial in #ubuntu actually. he's helping people out where he can |
| 04:47.41 | eightyeight | he's probably and alabama fan. seeing as though they just lost to the U, he's bitter now |
| 05:07.49 | bonez45 | 13-0... way to smoke that crimson tide.. |
| 05:12.05 | bonez45 | ok....if I can ssh to a machine on my lan.....and I can ping mirrors.xmission.com and it resolves to the correct IP, 198.60.22.13, and yet apt-get won't connect.....what else might be going wrong? how does one test apt-get and it's non-functioning? |
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| 05:57.30 | fozzmoo | gateway? |
| 05:57.56 | fozzmoo | bonez45: I've had problems like that when I don't have a default gateway. Do a 'route -n' and make sure everything looks good. |
| 05:59.08 | bonez45 | fozzmoo: ok, I get the following |
| 05:59.10 | bonez45 | scott@essen:/etc/apt/apt.conf.d$ route -n |
| 05:59.10 | bonez45 | Kernel IP routing table |
| 05:59.10 | bonez45 | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 05:59.10 | bonez45 | 192.168.15.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 05:59.10 | bonez45 | 0.0.0.0 192.168.15.1 0.0.0.0 UG 100 0 0 eth0 |
| 05:59.24 | bonez45 | does that look right? |
| 05:59.35 | fozzmoo | Looks right to me. says 192.168.15.1 is your default gw |
| 05:59.44 | bonez45 | ok.... |
| 06:00.42 | bonez45 | # The primary network interface |
| 06:00.42 | bonez45 | auto eth0 |
| 06:00.42 | bonez45 | iface eth0 inet static |
| 06:00.42 | bonez45 | address 192.168.15.13 |
| 06:00.43 | bonez45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:00.43 | bonez45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:00.45 | bonez45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:00.47 | bonez45 | does this look OK too? |
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| 10:17.45 | bonez45 | hello? anyone else on at this hour? |
| 10:25.47 | Sargun | No. |
| 10:25.49 | Sargun | bonez45, |
| 10:26.26 | Sargun | considering how often you are awake at this time, I'm slightly confused on how you live in a Tz east of me |
| 10:28.29 | bonez45 | east of you? I am in MST |
| 10:28.53 | Sargun | I'm in PST8PDT. |
| 10:29.01 | Sargun | it's 3:28 AM where you are |
| 10:29.02 | Sargun | right |
| 10:30.03 | bonez45 | PST where is that? |
| 10:30.10 | bonez45 | yes, 3:28 |
| 10:30.11 | Sargun | California |
| 10:30.21 | Sargun | AKA: Mecca. |
| 10:30.24 | bonez45 | ah... |
| 10:30.29 | bonez45 | silicon valley |
| 10:30.37 | Sargun | Yes. |
| 10:30.43 | Sargun | I live walking distance from LLNL |
| 10:31.20 | Sargun | And my office is walking distance from Cisco, 55 South Market, 4 Equinix DCs, uh, and some other neat shit |
| 10:31.41 | bonez45 | LLNL |
| 10:31.58 | bonez45 | what is LLNL? |
| 10:32.18 | bonez45 | ah the lab.. ok |
| 10:32.27 | bonez45 | you live out in Livermore? |
| 10:32.45 | bonez45 | is that near the wind farm? |
| 10:33.04 | Sargun | yeah |
| 10:33.09 | Sargun | Wow, you know about the wind farm? |
| 10:33.12 | Sargun | It got shut down |
| 10:33.31 | bonez45 | cool.. I used to work for United Windpower.. bit turbine company.. |
| 10:33.41 | bonez45 | is the windfarm not running any more? |
| 10:33.50 | Sargun | No, they sold like 80% of it. |
| 10:33.56 | Sargun | Aren't you a doctor? What were you doing for them |
| 10:35.33 | bonez45 | this was BEFORE I ever went to Chiropractic College.. while still doing undergraduate work.. I lived in Pleasanton.. .. worked at the mall there at Macy's and later or also at same time at US / United Windpower.. |
| 10:35.58 | bonez45 | I talked with lots of the engineers there.. and developed some great friends.. though I have lost touch with most of them |
| 10:36.18 | bonez45 | but I miss the Bay... loved living there |
| 10:36.46 | bonez45 | experienced my first really alarming earthquake at that windpower facility.. |
| 10:37.31 | bonez45 | I remember these huge I-beam ceiling girders flapping around like they were rubber.. and thought the building was going to fall on me.. scared me...;) |
| 10:38.14 | Sargun | oh, holy crap |
| 10:38.18 | Sargun | I love macy's |
| 10:38.23 | Sargun | I go there all the time. |
| 10:38.36 | Sargun | Well, like every 6 months |
| 10:38.43 | Sargun | Did you ever go to the movie theatre? |
| 10:38.48 | Sargun | Where about did you live in pleasanton |
| 10:39.46 | bonez45 | I had a good time working there.. I sold ties and shirts and stuff.. had a good friend there in the Fragrance section.. was Flaming. but a nice guy, I remember he wanted to get me to come to the city and go to the I-Beam bar with him.. I guess it's a gay bar... I am straight arrow, but he was always hitting on me...;) |
| 10:40.07 | bonez45 | I was on Pawnee way... in an apartment with 3 other guys |
| 10:40.08 | Sargun | Hehe |
| 10:40.24 | Sargun | How did you end up in pleasanton? |
| 10:40.50 | bonez45 | he was really a nice guy, and I loved working there.. I had moved there and worked there.. during 2 summers, 86, 87.. selling insulation door to door.. |
| 10:41.11 | bonez45 | and then stayed around through Christmas, taking a quarter off... after the 2nd summer... |
| 10:41.17 | Sargun | ah. |
| 10:42.16 | Sargun | That's pretty neat |
| 10:42.21 | bonez45 | I think so.. |
| 10:42.22 | Sargun | Did you guys have bart back then? |
| 10:42.41 | bonez45 | yeah, Bart was around, but not over there in Pleasanton... |
| 10:42.49 | bonez45 | it's there now, right? |
| 10:43.37 | Sargun | yeah |
| 10:43.42 | Sargun | but it's a PITA to ride it |
| 10:44.01 | Sargun | well, like you guys had $0.95/gallon gas, right? |
| 10:45.00 | Sargun | Man, wow... Another Pleasantonian in #utah |
| 10:47.38 | bonez45 | PITA? |
| 10:47.54 | bonez45 | yeah, gas was cheaper then.. no doubt |
| 10:48.34 | Sargun | pain in the arse |
| 10:49.11 | bonez45 | ah.. but to commute to SF.. I'd think that would be the way to go.. in light of gas, parking, etc.. no? |
| 10:49.37 | Sargun | depends on your age and economic class |
| 10:49.45 | Sargun | my girlfriend hates bart |
| 10:49.46 | Sargun | I love it |
| 10:50.39 | bonez45 | what does your GF hate about BART? Does she hate it like most females hate Bart Simpson? |
| 10:50.42 | Sargun | hehe |
| 10:50.56 | Sargun | she just dislikes public transportation |
| 10:51.03 | bonez45 | oh... |
| 10:51.13 | Sargun | Yeah, I know, fail. |
| 10:51.25 | bonez45 | does she live in Livermore too? or elsewhere? |
| 10:51.40 | Sargun | Well, actually, I live in Pleasanton |
| 10:51.49 | Sargun | but the lab is about 8 miles away |
| 10:51.56 | Sargun | which is a 2 hour jog. |
| 10:53.01 | bonez45 | ah, I see... |
| 10:53.25 | Sargun | Hearst Dr... |
| 10:53.33 | Sargun | I'm not sure that existed when you were here |
| 10:53.37 | Sargun | uhm, Kottinger Rance |
| 10:53.40 | Sargun | ranch |
| 10:53.46 | Sargun | Uhm, what else is here |
| 10:53.51 | bonez45 | Hearst Drive ? I don't recall it |
| 10:53.55 | Sargun | Do you know of Vintage Hills? |
| 10:53.57 | Sargun | the area |
| 10:53.59 | bonez45 | no.. |
| 10:54.04 | Sargun | :-( |
| 10:54.06 | Sargun | It's off bernal |
| 10:54.12 | bonez45 | Bernal I know |
| 10:54.36 | Sargun | yeah, I think that may be one of the oldest roads in Pleasanton |
| 10:55.05 | bonez45 | I think so... |
| 10:55.08 | Sargun | Do you still have any friends here |
| 10:55.39 | bonez45 | yeah, but sadly, I haven't kept up with any.. but am hoping to reconnect with some this year.... |
| 10:55.52 | Sargun | Ah, visiting? |
| 10:57.06 | bonez45 | well, I'd hope I can visit there too, but I plan to find some over the net.. and then talk and then visit later on |
| 10:58.14 | Sargun | yeah |
| 10:58.20 | Sargun | stay in the fairmont in SJC |
| 10:58.30 | bonez45 | ah, I have been there.... |
| 11:00.44 | Sargun | the fairmont |
| 11:00.46 | Sargun | or san jose |
| 11:02.47 | bonez45 | the Fairmont.. used to live in Santa Clara.. |
| 11:03.07 | Sargun | ah |
| 11:03.09 | bonez45 | just off Lawrence Expressway and El Camino... near CompUSA.. |
| 11:03.14 | Sargun | What did you do in Santa Clara |
| 11:03.17 | Sargun | that's long gone |
| 11:03.21 | Sargun | long long long time ago |
| 11:03.28 | bonez45 | went to Palmer Chiropractic College.. |
| 11:03.30 | bonez45 | yeah.. |
| 11:03.36 | Sargun | ah |
| 11:04.04 | Sargun | Why did you vacate this area |
| 11:04.33 | bonez45 | we had our apartment right behind the Savoy.. a DYKE bar.. and just to the east was a bookstore, and it drew all the gays.. they would cruise behind our place.. looking for their next date.... |
| 11:04.42 | bonez45 | I am from Utah.. so we came back ehre |
| 11:06.31 | Sargun | ah |
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| 11:15.32 | Sargun | o.O |
| 11:17.46 | bonez45 | anyway.. just getting my 8.04 server set up.. got it reinstalled.. unlocked the password or reset it.. now trying to get k3b installed with gui so I can burn a cd |
| 11:18.40 | Sargun | ah |
| 11:18.45 | Sargun | dude, just use cdrecord |
| 11:18.53 | Sargun | bonez45, use k3b on your desktop to make an image |
| 11:19.05 | bonez45 | from command line? I have to burn an .iso.. |
| 11:19.09 | Sargun | yeah |
| 11:19.16 | Sargun | bonez45, Do you have a .iso? |
| 11:19.25 | Sargun | on your dekstop |
| 11:19.26 | Sargun | dekstop |
| 11:19.27 | Sargun | desktop |
| 11:22.29 | bonez45 | yeah, i have the .iso on my xp machine here.. just need to scp it to the server box.. |
| 11:22.47 | bonez45 | so , I see 'wodim' is the new name for cdrecord? |
| 11:23.08 | Sargun | bonez45, scp $MYISOFILE $MYUSER@$MYSYSTEM:/tmp |
| 11:23.11 | Sargun | once you do that |
| 11:23.19 | Sargun | ssh $MYUSER@$MYSYSTEM |
| 11:23.34 | Sargun | sudo cdrecord dev=$MYCDROMDEV /tmp/*iso |
| 11:23.40 | Sargun | that frackin simple |
| 11:23.48 | bonez45 | hmm ok.. |
| 11:24.07 | Sargun | Tell me if you have any issues |
| 11:25.49 | bonez45 | ok, here's the question, the .iso I have is currently a .rar file.. do I run 'unrar myfile.rar' to unarchive it to its .iso form? |
| 11:26.42 | bonez45 | is that the right way to handle such a file |
| 11:26.52 | Sargun | unrar it on your desktop |
| 11:26.54 | Sargun | if you can |
| 11:27.10 | bonez45 | on my xp machine first? before sending to this other box running xp? |
| 11:27.48 | bonez45 | I don't see any tools to allow me to unrar it on my xp machine.. and I know unrar works on linux |
| 11:28.11 | Sargun | oh |
| 11:28.15 | Sargun | just unrar on linux |
| 11:28.28 | bonez45 | ok |
| 11:29.11 | bonez45 | using winscp to send to ubuntu box.. then unraring it there, then trying the burn |
| 11:29.28 | Sargun | ok |
| 11:29.29 | Sargun | good luck |
| 11:29.32 | Sargun | I wish you godspeed. |
| 11:29.37 | bonez45 | thanks.. |
| 11:29.54 | bonez45 | it's 575 mb so will take a few to transfer it |
| 11:30.58 | Sargun | 15 minutes? |
| 11:31.25 | bonez45 | my son.. 13.. has a fairly new box I built him 2 years ago.. he uses it for games... and homework.. and email.. but he's hozed xp pro on it.. and my wife carted off my xp pro disc somewhere.. so I am trying to replace it.. |
| 11:31.43 | bonez45 | yeah, 13 minutes left |
| 11:32.04 | Sargun | Install ubuntu on it |
| 11:32.20 | Sargun | I was 11 when I started using Gentoo 100% of the time. |
| 11:32.24 | Sargun | well, not 100% |
| 11:32.31 | Sargun | but when I started using gentoo significantly. |
| 11:32.45 | Sargun | as long as he doesn't game. |
| 11:32.50 | Sargun | what games does he play? |
| 11:34.48 | bonez45 | he and my other boys play roblox.. and red alert... command and conquer.. |
| 11:35.22 | bonez45 | I would love to get all my boys playing games and using linux.. |
| 11:35.34 | Sargun | dude, get them a console. |
| 11:35.40 | bonez45 | if I could.. but they have friends who are online.. a console? |
| 11:35.47 | Sargun | It's the cost of windows |
| 11:35.49 | Sargun | I mean a Wii |
| 11:36.38 | Sargun | he'll enjoy it more |
| 11:37.19 | bonez45 | we just got them all an xbox 360.. |
| 11:37.26 | Sargun | Yeah, aren't they happy with that |
| 11:37.43 | bonez45 | and now they are hounding me for the wireless do-dad.. so they can go onlne and so that I can spend more $$ permonth.. to connect them to the world.. |
| 11:37.55 | bonez45 | they are.. bu tmy son has this other box already... |
| 11:38.08 | Sargun | you mean windows? |
| 11:38.18 | bonez45 | he's not hooked on Windows.. it's just that he has various games that are windows based... |
| 11:38.42 | bonez45 | yeah, this windows box I am trying to revive.. |
| 11:38.54 | bonez45 | 4.5 " to go.. |
| 11:39.37 | Sargun | Why give him windows? |
| 11:39.50 | Sargun | He's more than likely going to mess it up again, and I don't blame him. |
| 11:40.41 | Sargun | bonez45, and more than likely his computer will get infected with one of those "porn viruses" |
| 11:43.18 | bonez45 | ok, that's finished.. |
| 11:43.47 | bonez45 | yeah, I am having to clamp down.. and monitor everything. that's how his xp install got hozed, I think.. |
| 11:47.18 | bonez45 | just running 'unrar t xppro.rar' on it now to test it out |
| 11:54.37 | bonez45 | ok, ready to burn it now |
| 11:55.43 | Sargun | ok |
| 11:56.12 | Sargun | is your cdrom drive /dev/hda? |
| 11:56.17 | bonez45 | would it be cdrecord or wodim, etc? |
| 11:56.50 | bonez45 | I type mount and it doesn't list my cdrom drive as mounted |
| 11:57.14 | bonez45 | /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 |
| 11:57.19 | Sargun | uhm |
| 11:57.20 | bonez45 | that's the listing from /etc/fstab |
| 11:57.46 | Sargun | cdrecord dev=/dev/scd0 /tmp/*iso |
| 11:58.26 | bonez45 | can I paste the output here? it's several lines is that cool? |
| 11:58.59 | bonez45 | no worry about flood warning? |
| 11:58.59 | Sargun | sure. |
| 11:58.59 | Sargun | I don't care |
| 11:58.59 | Sargun | elg migt |
| 11:58.59 | Sargun | might |
| 11:58.59 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:58.59 | bonez45 | ok.. |
| 11:59.29 | bonez45 | scott@ubuntuserver:~$ cdrecord dev=/dev/scd0 /tmp/*iso |
| 11:59.29 | bonez45 | wodim: No write mode specified. |
| 11:59.30 | bonez45 | wodim: Asuming -tao mode. |
| 11:59.30 | bonez45 | wodim: Future versions of wodim may have different drive dependent defaults. |
| 11:59.30 | bonez45 | wodim: Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits.Device type : Removable CD-ROM |
| 11:59.30 | bonez45 | Version : 5 |
| 11:59.32 | bonez45 | Response Format: 2 |
| 11:59.34 | bonez45 | Capabilities : |
| 11:59.36 | bonez45 | Vendor_info : 'PIONEER ' |
| 11:59.38 | bonez45 | Identification : 'DVD-RW DVR-110D' |
| 11:59.40 | bonez45 | Revision : '1.17' |
| 11:59.42 | bonez45 | Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. |
| 11:59.44 | bonez45 | Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). |
| 11:59.46 | bonez45 | Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE |
| 11:59.48 | bonez45 | Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R |
| 11:59.50 | bonez45 | wodim: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/tmp/*iso'. |
| 11:59.52 | bonez45 | that's what I get.. |
| 11:59.56 | bonez45 | do I run this with sudo ? or just as user? |
| 12:00.15 | Sargun | oh, where did you put the iso file? |
| 12:00.28 | bonez45 | it's in my /home/scott folder |
| 12:00.36 | Sargun | sudo cdrecord dev=/dev/scd0 /home/scott/*iso |
| 12:00.56 | bonez45 | I am so dense.. sorry.. |
| 12:03.15 | Sargun | did it work? |
| 12:03.40 | bonez45 | it's burning now, I suppose.. but it's not giving any progress bar. or indicator.. |
| 12:04.46 | bonez45 | Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 40.0 in real TAO mode for single session. |
| 12:04.46 | bonez45 | Last chance to quit, starting real write i 0 seconds. Operation starts. |
| 12:04.51 | bonez45 | that's what it shows now |
| 12:05.09 | bonez45 | Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 651014144/651014144 (317878 sectors). |
| 12:05.14 | Sargun | oh, is your CD spinning insanely |
| 12:05.21 | Sargun | and are you hearing all sorts of scary noises |
| 12:05.22 | bonez45 | still has green light on, and now a prompt is back |
| 12:05.35 | bonez45 | yeah, it was spinning like crazy, but stopped now |
| 12:05.43 | Sargun | eject the disc |
| 12:05.50 | bonez45 | ok |
| 12:05.52 | Sargun | see if it fixes your son's computer |
| 12:06.16 | bonez45 | ok, taking it upstairs now |
| 12:06.33 | bonez45 | wish me luck |
| 12:07.02 | Sargun | I wish you luck ;-) |
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| 20:06.02 | elg | haha, brac is going to be a comcast renegade |
| 20:06.17 | elg | "# use IRC (Internet Relay Chat) or other chat services or tools to flood chats, establish more than two (2) concurrent chat connections per device at any time, or use unattended clones, bots, or other automated programs to engage in chats; |
| 20:06.17 | elg | # falsify, alter, or remove message headers; " |
| 20:22.02 | elg | tensai: pig |
| 20:22.04 | elg | ping even |
| 20:26.07 | herlo | how about them Utes! |
| 20:27.23 | jsmith | herlo: Yeah! |
| 20:27.32 | herlo | jsmith: hey |
| 20:27.39 | herlo | long time, no see |
| 20:27.39 | jsmith | I can't wait to bring that up at work on Monday :-p |
| 20:27.55 | herlo | hehe, yeah |
| 20:27.56 | jsmith | herlo: What? I've been hanging out here all the time! |
| 20:28.46 | elg | is trying to figure out how to keep his server a master dns thought it will have a dynamic ip |
| 20:29.12 | elg | anyone know of a free secondary dns service that will take a hostname (e.g. a dyndns hostname) as the master? |
| 20:29.29 | jsmith | elg: Did you try everydns.net? |
| 20:29.43 | jsmith | elg: (They rock, fwiw) |
| 20:29.49 | elg | i've used them before |
| 20:29.52 | elg | and migrated to xname |
| 20:29.54 | elg | don't remember why |
| 20:30.20 | elg | i'll see if they do |
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| 21:12.31 | maquis | wonders if she should be concerned that she just had to chmod a pts in order to get it to let her do what she wanted... |
| 21:16.32 | jsmith | maquis: If you were worried enough to mention in here, then yes, you should be worried :-) |
| 21:16.53 | maquis | jsmith: heh |
| 21:17.31 | maquis | tries to read a portuese message to see what this application is |
| 21:19.06 | maquis | for future reference of anyone who's curious, the 500GB Seagate FreeAgent has a very odd set of issues under linux |
| 21:19.15 | maquis | well documented here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=494673 |
| 21:19.21 | jsmith | maquis: Paste the message in here... there are several people in the channel who grok Portuquese |
| 21:20.02 | maquis | jsmith: it didn't look important... just someone asking what it was and someone else pointing to a really useless link that was actually in english :) |
| 21:20.25 | maquis | my spanish skills are just enough to get the general jist of most written portuguese :) |
| 21:20.36 | maquis | well... at least simple written portuguese :) |
| 21:20.41 | maquis | and italian |
| 21:21.14 | maquis | it's actually kinda fun to try to pick out the meaning of technical discussions in other languages... |
| 21:22.04 | jsmith | I understand... I'm often tasked with the job of picking out technical details (related to telephony) from documents in all kinds of foreign languages |
| 21:22.54 | maquis | heh |
| 21:22.59 | maquis | i help out our QA engineer occasionally when he has to work with some of our foreign test sites... |
| 21:23.24 | maquis | although occasionally i have to pull in my manager when my knowledge and google translate fail us |
| 21:24.30 | maquis | i can pick out the basics in spanish, portuguese, italian and chinese, and can make intelligent guesses with french, german and japanese (assuming it uses kanji...) |
| 21:24.57 | maquis | chinese, the basics i can pick out are more basic than spanish, portuguese or italian, but it's still usually enough |
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