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| 00:01.41 | Supaplex | heck yeah! |
| 00:06.50 | Heartsbane | Its like a raw egg, milk and pancake batter |
| 00:08.33 | Supaplex | I'll enjoy my eggnog while you scarf down the lutefisk |
| 00:13.23 | levi | Egg Nog is awesome. |
| 00:20.38 | Heartsbane | lutefisk isn't that bad, although cod really isn't my thing |
| 00:21.00 | Heartsbane | my stepmother makes it with a lot of mayo |
| 00:28.09 | Supaplex | I'll try it $someday perhaps. |
| 00:28.34 | Heartsbane | lol |
| 00:34.50 | maquis | egg nog is good |
| 00:35.08 | maquis | lutefisk... well, i figure i could probably get away with a bite of it sometime |
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| 02:22.39 | Tene | http://controversy.wearscience.com/ |
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| 03:21.25 | Sargun | Hey, anyone here have a network map for telia, and/or where certain telia routers are? |
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| 03:46.28 | Sargun | I officially hate outsourcing |
| 03:56.22 | Supaplex | Sargun: http://www.robtex.com/as/as3301.html graph tab? |
| 03:57.17 | Sargun | Supaplex, Hm. No, We're seeing some routing from CN -> Africa -> US -> California |
| 03:57.40 | Supaplex | I'm blind w/o a full bgp feed. :) |
| 03:58.34 | Sargun | yeah, I don't have a BGP feed in China, and my contact in China has an IQ of 2. |
| 03:58.53 | Sargun | :-P |
| 03:59.34 | Supaplex | figures. |
| 04:00.03 | Sargun | My reasoning is that the ISP in china has a huge weight set on certain peers |
| 04:00.16 | Sargun | and probably doesn't want to carry it across the Pacific themselves. |
| 04:00.53 | Supaplex | I'm too lazy to login to a looking glass and check the as paths. |
| 04:01.49 | Sargun | the provider in China doesn't have an LG |
| 04:02.44 | Sargun | and trying to talk their tech support is like swallowing hot coals |
| 04:04.48 | Supaplex | they could always call India. haha ;) |
| 04:05.14 | Sargun | See, the thing with India is that you can throw money at it, and it'll somewhat fix itself. |
| 04:05.16 | Sargun | magically. |
| 04:05.26 | Supaplex | I've had that before. someone from China conferenced in with someone from India. Both are speaking english, and they don't understand each other at all. |
| 04:05.39 | Supaplex | except for "What?" |
| 04:06.26 | Sargun | HAHA |
| 04:08.49 | Sargun | Well, it's either the router is bad, the power to the router is bad, or something else is bad |
| 04:09.34 | Supaplex | efail in china. |
| 04:10.15 | Sargun | ephail. |
| 04:11.44 | Sargun | at least being K-Lined from freenode is reducing my wasted time |
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| 04:23.41 | Sargun | weird.. |
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| 06:15.02 | Snyder | Hello people |
| 06:18.40 | levi | Hi. |
| 06:49.20 | bbeattie | hi |
| 06:49.25 | bbeattie | .. am I late. ;) |
| 06:49.36 | Sargun | for the late crowd |
| 06:54.44 | RyanE | howdy |
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| 16:58.36 | bonez45 | I have a system .. that's down. it has win xp pro.. and ubuntu 8.04.. the other day, while in xp I ran partition magic, and enlarged the windows NTFS drive.. to recover some unused space.. after that, grub gives an error 15.. and won't boot |
| 17:01.35 | jshipley | cue Strongbad... "The system is down, the system..." |
| 17:02.20 | jshipley | so it's not booting windows? |
| 17:03.06 | maquis | grub fails? or linux fails? or windows fails? |
| 17:03.48 | maquis | bonez45: you could go into a livecd and resizze the partition back to where it was. if you haven't resized the filesystem in that partition, it should still be recoverable |
| 17:04.12 | maquis | if you resized the partition, though, it could be problematic because it will have overwritten what was there before |
| 17:05.00 | maquis | er |
| 17:05.01 | maquis | sorry |
| 17:05.08 | maquis | if you resized the filesystem, it could be problematic |
| 17:05.18 | maquis | if you only resized the partition, resizing it again should be okay |
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| 17:05.39 | jshipley | are you able to boot into any of your installed systems? |
| 17:05.52 | jshipley | You could try re-installing grub: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297261 |
| 17:06.10 | jshipley | look at post #4 in that thread |
| 17:06.10 | maquis | that's also a good idea |
| 17:07.08 | jshipley | that will only work if your OSs weren't damaged with the resize |
| 17:07.29 | maquis | jshipley: that goes along with my comment about resizing the partitions vs resizing the filesystems :) |
| 17:07.59 | maquis | i know i've managed to resize a partition to smaller than the associated filesystem, and resizing it back to the original size made things work again :) |
| 17:08.34 | jshipley | I've changed NTFS filesystems without any problems other than a forced scandisk after rebooting |
| 17:09.15 | bonez45 | I could never get the scandisk to HAPPEN on this xp machine, it would never run through it..would just continue booting into windows |
| 17:09.42 | jshipley | Did the partition number change when you enlarged the partition? |
| 17:10.07 | bonez45 | can the livecd restore grub, or run update-grub, which I assume would find both xp and ubuntu and set it up so that it could boot normally? |
| 17:10.18 | bonez45 | I resized the xp partition....... |
| 17:10.35 | jshipley | right, but did the xp partition number change? |
| 17:10.46 | jshipley | so can you boot into linux still? |
| 17:11.10 | bonez45 | hmmm I don't remember if it did or now.. I do know that xp was at the left of the sizing bar and ubuntu was at the far right side and the empty space was in the middle... |
| 17:11.30 | bonez45 | I can't boot into anything, it shows grub starting to boot and then freezees and \gives error 15 |
| 17:12.53 | jshipley | you should be able to reinstall grub from the livecd. just follow the information in post #4 of the thread I posted above |
| 17:13.05 | bonez45 | I don't care about the ubuntu partition or installation. I can sacrifice it.. but the xp pro installation I want to revive... |
| 17:15.58 | bonez45 | jshipley: ok, I fouind the thread and will try that |
| 17:16.19 | bonez45 | the boot disk I have is knoppix..... can I get there booting up with it? |
| 17:16.38 | jshipley | I'm guessing that your XP partition is probably ok, you just need to have a working boot loader installed. If your linux partition is ok then you should be able to reinstall grub, if it's not then you'll have to reinstall linux on that partition or just install the windows bootloader again from the windows install disk |
| 17:17.11 | jshipley | you can check your linux partition and configure grub from the knoppix cd |
| 17:17.26 | bonez45 | ah, therein lies the problem.. I still can't find my XP pro disk... |
| 17:17.55 | bonez45 | but I keep looking.. my wife put it away 'in a safe place'.....hehe |
| 17:18.39 | bonez45 | it's probably stuffed away, where dbcooper is.. and jimmy hoffa.. and my black sabbath live 2 tape set.....and other things I can't seem to find... |
| 17:18.40 | bonez45 | ;) |
| 17:18.42 | jshipley | I don't even know how many 'safe place' things I've lost... :( |
| 17:19.43 | bonez45 | someone I asked told me to wander over to some bay of pirate place and get an XP copy there.. but that didn't work.. after d/l the file, the iso, it failed the CRC check.....cest la vie |
| 17:20.27 | unum | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/28/AR2008112802242.html?hpid=opinionsbox1 |
| 17:20.33 | unum | it's about torture in iraq |
| 17:20.47 | unum | an other great link from schneier |
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| 17:29.14 | jshipley | hmm, he left a little too soon... this might have helped: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ |
| 17:40.01 | unum | I just went through the company fridge and threw out all the expired items |
| 17:40.11 | unum | I found several items that had expired before I started here |
| 17:40.17 | ^Migs^ | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7804876.stm |
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| 17:45.39 | jshipley | unum: how long have you been there? months? years? |
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| 18:17.19 | ^Migs^ | http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/ads/maybe_alarm_clock.jpg |
| 18:25.05 | unum | jshipley: three years |
| 18:26.21 | unum | so I have a select statement where I have a one to many relationship and I want to fetch the values from the many as one string |
| 18:27.12 | unum | say I have a car model that can come in many colors and I have a table of those colors with each color being represent by a letter |
| 18:27.36 | unum | and I want a select statement that will return pinto,blr |
| 18:28.03 | unum | rather than pinto,b pinto,l pinto,r |
| 18:37.26 | jsmith | unum: That's nothing... we moved in with my wife's great-aunt while we were building our house out here. She had food in her fridge that had expired more than *ten* years ago. |
| 18:40.38 | rsimpkins | Tene: ping |
| 18:41.19 | Snyder | ick. I hope you caught the experation date before you ate it. |
| 18:41.27 | rsimpkins | jsmith: Well aged food. Yummy. |
| 18:53.32 | jsmith | rsimpkins: Well, I don't think cream cheese gets better with age :-( |
| 18:56.44 | jshipley | unum: which db are you using? |
| 19:08.08 | unum | jshipley: postgres |
| 19:10.02 | jsmith | unum: does array_to_string work? |
| 19:10.32 | unum | jsmith: I think that's what I was trying to remember |
| 19:10.43 | unum | it seems someone told me how to do this before, but I have forgotten |
| 19:11.11 | jsmith | Something like SELECT model, array_to_string(ARRAY(SELECT foo FROM bar WHERE baz = 1))? |
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| 19:11.52 | unum | that looks right thank you |
| 19:12.20 | jsmith | If it's not perfect, it will at least get you started |
| 19:14.30 | unum | ya thanks |
| 20:16.12 | Tene | rsimpkins: pong |
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| 20:51.13 | eightyeight | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081230-why-ubuntu-users-should-care-about-debian.html |
| 20:51.16 | eightyeight | good read |
| 20:52.34 | harleypig | anyone know of a mindless violence type game for the wii ... along the lines of storm the house maybe? |
| 20:52.41 | harleypig | I just want something I can toss grenades and rockets at and watch things blow up. |
| 21:12.45 | goozbach | boom blox |
| 21:13.05 | ^Migs^ | would a 3 year-old be able to play that? |
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| 21:34.24 | harleypig | ^Migs^: doubtful, but my 6 yr old would enjoy it. |
| 21:34.33 | harleypig | as would my 7, 9 and 14 year old boys. |
| 21:34.36 | harleypig | and me too. |
| 21:43.54 | tensai | herlo: I've been considering moving my company jabber server to openfire. looks pretty cool. |
| 21:44.55 | JoshH | i'd suggest moving to a company irc server |
| 21:47.11 | ^Migs^ | Openfire is sweet |
| 21:47.12 | maquis | JoshH: some people don't seem to understand how to use irc... people say it's hard |
| 21:47.15 | ^Migs^ | and get everyone on Spark |
| 21:47.30 | maquis | spark sucks |
| 21:47.41 | JoshH | they just need a quick crash course and a noob friendly client |
| 21:48.01 | maquis | JoshH: i agree, but i haven't had much luck convincing people yet :) |
| 21:48.06 | JoshH | everyone uses irc fine here, even new hires in sales, billing, etc |
| 21:48.37 | ^Migs^ | :D |
| 21:53.21 | fozzmoo | Openfire is easy to administer and, for a Java app, it's pretty spiffy. |
| 21:54.10 | unum | I've been happy with ejabberd |
| 21:54.42 | JoshH | heh, for a java app |
| 21:55.10 | JoshH | "for a piece of crap, it smells ok" |
| 21:55.40 | harleypig | yeah, it could be one of mine after a giant bean and cheese burrito ... |
| 21:55.48 | harleypig | your welcome |
| 21:56.52 | harleypig | s/your/you're/ |
| 21:56.53 | harleypig | damnit |
| 21:57.11 | JoshH | s/damnit/damn it/ |
| 21:57.22 | harleypig | damnit is a valid spelling |
| 21:57.32 | JoshH | usually it's dammit when only one word, afaik |
| 21:57.45 | JoshH | not that it matters |
| 21:58.02 | harleypig | blinks |
| 21:58.07 | harleypig | you're right |
| 21:58.08 | harleypig | dammit |
| 21:58.24 | maquis | glares in harleypig and JoshH |
| 21:58.28 | JoshH | your cursing skills are weak |
| 21:58.36 | harleypig | I'm holding back. |
| 21:59.39 | harleypig | maquis: in? |
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| 22:00.12 | eightyeight | glares in instead of believes in? |
| 22:01.01 | maquis | harleypig: uh... at |
| 22:01.04 | maquis | s/in/at :) |
| 22:01.06 | harleypig | I didn't think anyone would want to glare in me ... might get more than you bargain for. :> |
| 22:01.17 | maquis | at... at!!!!! |
| 22:01.25 | eightyeight | glares in maquis |
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| 22:01.59 | eightyeight | glares in the lord too |
| 22:02.10 | eightyeight | glares in quite a bit |
| 22:02.14 | harleypig | Legend of the Red Dragon? |
| 22:03.10 | eightyeight | ~glare at harleypig |
| 22:03.11 | ibot | ACTION glares at at harleypig |
| 22:03.27 | eightyeight | heh |
| 22:03.48 | harleypig | glares back at ibot |
| 22:04.01 | harleypig | at at? |
| 22:04.18 | eightyeight | forgot how to redo factiods |
| 22:04.36 | harleypig | I'm a Trekkie, not a Star Wars dweeb! |
| 22:05.18 | JoshH | why not both? |
| 22:05.26 | eightyeight | waves his hand over harleypig "you like star wars" |
| 22:06.39 | harleypig | I never said I didn't like Star Wars ... but I've never read any of the Star Wars novels ... |
| 22:06.54 | eightyeight | touche |
| 22:07.05 | eightyeight | waits for redbeard2 |
| 22:07.10 | harleypig | otoh, I've read everything Star Trek, I can identify an episode of Star Trek:TOS and TNG within a few seconds. ... |
| 22:07.20 | harleypig | So ... I'm a Trekkie. :> |
| 22:08.11 | jsmith | harleypig: Oh? What's the episode when Riker almost gets killed on an alien planet they're spying on? |
| 22:09.28 | redbeard2 | eightyeight: why are you waiting for me? |
| 22:09.47 | harleypig | I meant seeing a clip I can identify which show it is. |
| 22:10.02 | harleypig | I know which show you're talking about though. |
| 22:10.22 | Sargun | Was it a calm week while I was missing? |
| 22:10.40 | harleypig | jsmith: that's the one where the nurse has the hots for alien strange |
| 22:12.35 | jsmith | harleypig: You've got it :-p |
| 22:13.52 | harleypig | That actress (Lilith on Cheers) has always played the repressed slut really well ... :> |
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| 22:14.36 | jsmith | harleypig: That's exactly what my wife said when she saw that episode last |
| 22:14.54 | zzzirk | isn't that actress Jonathan Frake's wife? |
| 22:15.09 | harleypig | *blink* |
| 22:15.13 | harleypig | goes to look it up |
| 22:15.24 | zzzirk | I'm pretty sure she is (or was) |
| 22:15.24 | elg | harleypig: my bros and i used to watch tng nightly, and had a running contest to be the first to identify the episode (not by name, but as "the one where ...") |
| 22:15.54 | harleypig | zzzirk: nope |
| 22:16.02 | harleypig | Genie Francis is his wife. |
| 22:16.41 | zzzirk | damn, must've been thinking of someone else then |
| 22:16.49 | harleypig | Bebe Neuwirth is the actress in the show. |
| 22:17.00 | eightyeight | redbeard2: no "i don't think you're using that right"? |
| 22:17.01 | zzzirk | yeah, that's her name |
| 22:17.16 | redbeard2 | eightyeight: using what right? |
| 22:17.26 | eightyeight | touche |
| 22:18.13 | redbeard2 | heh |
| 22:20.03 | maquis | i freaked my mom out one time when she turned on the tv to voyager, and in less than a second i had told her the episode title and was jumping into a synopsis of that episode |
| 22:20.25 | harleypig | Why'd that freak her out? |
| 22:20.38 | maquis | she freaked out particularly because the scene it had come on during was not anything particularly abnormal |
| 22:20.43 | elg | because she's cardassian |
| 22:21.03 | maquis | there was no dialogue during that second, or anything particularly noteworthy to point at a particular episode |
| 22:21.11 | elg | we have amazing abilities to remember things by association |
| 22:21.23 | harleypig | speaking of freaking out ... anyone else seen the spirit yet? I found Samuel L Jackson in a Nazi uniform hilarious ... yet I was the only one laughing in the theatre. |
| 22:21.32 | elg | if you ever do one of those memory enhancement gigs, it's all about the hooks |
| 22:21.40 | maquis | elg: good point |
| 22:21.42 | elg | harleypig: haha |
| 22:22.35 | elg | sigh. nightfall is coming and there's still no internet at home |
| 22:22.40 | maquis | lots of actors i wouldn't know if they weren't in one particular thing... and then after that show, i know who they are and in my head they've always got the personality of that particular character |
| 22:23.20 | harleypig | yeah, I find myself doing the same thing. |
| 22:23.54 | harleypig | To this day I still think of Joan Crawford as a sweet young woman who thinks of others first. |
| 22:24.01 | elg | and now thanks to laptops and the internet, you can reinforce your "didn't I see her in another movie" urges instantly! |
| 22:24.18 | harleypig | imdb is your pusher |
| 22:24.47 | maquis | peter facinelli is a nice father figure in my head... |
| 22:25.04 | elg | samwise gamgee is a goonie |
| 22:25.18 | maquis | peter facinelli is actually insanely good-looking, btw... |
| 22:25.23 | maquis | particularly with blonde hair |
| 22:25.33 | harleypig | feh ... it wasn't joan crawford ... |
| 22:27.24 | harleypig | City on the Edge of Forever ... nertz ... what was her name |
| 22:27.38 | harleypig | Joan Collins |
| 22:30.47 | unum | actors can generally move from movie to movie with out people associating their characters too much with the actor |
| 22:30.49 | harleypig | anyone have any links to tutorials on getting jabber working with google apps for your domain? |
| 22:31.01 | unum | but when they do tv shows people tend to associate them with that character |
| 22:31.27 | unum | I understand bob sagget(who is one of the dirtiest comics there is) has a hard time getting any non-family oriented work now |
| 22:31.45 | elg | he doesn't bathe? |
| 22:31.46 | harleypig | with some exceptions ... the people who did star wars got typecast pretty badly |
| 22:32.02 | tensai | when they said "long wait", they weren't kidding. wall-e was released 11/18 and netflix just shipped it to me today. |
| 22:32.05 | harleypig | unum: yeah, he was on bob & tom a couple of weeks ago ... there were a lot of bleeps. |
| 22:32.41 | elg | harleypig: i dunno. harrison ford did alright. |
| 22:32.55 | elg | and the only other really good actor I can think of from star wars was obiwan |
| 22:33.06 | harleypig | elg: true ... but he had to work *really* hard to get past it |
| 22:33.07 | elg | and ewan macgregor in the new trio, and he's doing ok |
| 22:33.25 | harleypig | elg: Sir Alec Guiness had a long and established career at that point. |
| 22:33.49 | harleypig | Not quite the same thing, though most people remember him for that role as well, instead of the 10s of movies he did before that. |
| 22:34.24 | elg | harleypig: right, that was my point. he doens't count because he was already awesome |
| 22:34.31 | harleypig | heh |
| 22:34.43 | elg | well, most americans probably haven't even heard of them |
| 22:35.03 | elg | and i watched doctor zhivago. what a waste of time. |
| 22:35.15 | elg | other than that I don't know what he's been in. i'm sure they were fine |
| 22:35.30 | elg | i can barely keep up with the current drivel though, no time for ancient drivel |
| 22:35.34 | tensai | alec guiness was awesome in lawrence of arabia |
| 22:35.41 | unum | sometimes it ruins tv shows for me if I see the actor interviewed |
| 22:35.54 | unum | I guess it doesn't ruin it, but it does set me back a bit |
| 22:35.56 | elg | like the actress that played lana on smallville |
| 22:36.27 | unum | I saw hugh lorry and "jack" from "Lost" on leno |
| 22:37.23 | elg | i once saw leonard nimoy in an old B&W perry mason |
| 22:37.41 | elg | he was the bad guy i think. very excitable fellow, which made it even funnier |
| 22:37.59 | harleypig | :] William Shatner appeared in the Twilight Zone a couple of times. |
| 22:38.40 | unum | I never watched those so I have no trouble seeing him else where |
| 22:38.50 | unum | patrick stuart on the other hand..... |
| 22:39.03 | maquis | patrick stewart is pretty cool |
| 22:40.08 | unum | but when you watch him in a different movie do you keep expecting him to say "make it so" |
| 22:40.10 | elg | so anyway my point is that we do typecast actors but the good ones break free |
| 22:40.15 | harleypig | I still see him as Gurney Halleck |
| 22:40.46 | unum | I've spent more time watch star trek ng then watching Dune |
| 22:40.46 | harleypig | Throughout the run of TNG I kept expecting to see a little pony tail whenever he turned around. |
| 22:40.55 | unum | not that I really watched a lot of star trek |
| 22:41.04 | elg | that'd be funny. you should photoshop it in |
| 22:41.11 | harleypig | heh |
| 22:41.14 | harleypig | and the blue eyes |
| 22:41.43 | elg | ~rlart |
| 22:41.44 | ibot | farts in jsmith's general direction |
| 22:42.00 | jsmith | elg: How dare you! |
| 22:42.44 | maquis | ~rlart |
| 22:42.44 | ibot | puts cgibreak through a wood chipper |
| 22:50.20 | elg | ~lart jsmith |
| 22:50.20 | ibot | hooks into a hydrant and hoses jsmith down |
| 22:50.27 | elg | fire and water |
| 22:50.45 | elg | this network connection sucks. the only thing not having issues is irc. :) |
| 22:51.36 | elg | so some guy wants to pay me $120 for text ads on some 8 pages on my site. one-time payment |
| 22:51.56 | elg | $!5 a page, that is |
| 22:53.02 | elg | do i take the money and chuckle at the poor sap, or might i be making more cash by setting up adsense or something? could i really get that much traffic? (no, I don't watch my traffic. I'm completely ignorant, other than the very vague metric of how many comments articles get) |
| 22:57.33 | Sargun | elg, for how long? |
| 22:57.41 | Sargun | elg, how many hits do you get? |
| 22:57.43 | elg | life of the page |
| 22:57.47 | elg | that's what i don't know |
| 22:58.06 | elg | i could maybe find it out, if my server weren't in limbo and if awstats wasn't such a bear to use |
| 22:58.21 | Sargun | I'd rip him off... |
| 22:58.34 | Sargun | Google ads have very tiny amounts of revenue. |
| 22:58.49 | Sargun | Also, considering your page is aimed at people of a slightly higher geekiness level, they do not see ads. |
| 22:58.49 | elg | that's what i thought. i'm wondering what he knows that i don't |
| 22:59.19 | elg | from his email i gather they'd be static ads, not dynamic |
| 22:59.22 | elg | though i'm not sure |
| 23:00.15 | elg | ~rlart |
| 23:00.16 | ibot | takes wps to the vet for a "special" visit |
| 23:00.35 | wps | no, please no |
| 23:02.01 | Sargun | elg, Ads for geeks tend to be much more targeted. |
| 23:02.05 | Sargun | high margin items |
| 23:02.23 | Sargun | Like dedicated servers, or jobs, things like that |
| 23:18.43 | maquis | elg: how long do they want your ad to run for? |
| 23:18.51 | maquis | oh... nm... someone else asked |
| 23:18.55 | elg | forever. but it's mostly old blog posts |
| 23:19.25 | elg | this is interesting http://www.richardmondello.com/2007/12/06/no/ |
| 23:19.27 | maquis | hmmmm... |
| 23:19.30 | elg | same guy |
| 23:19.40 | elg | redbeard2 and i have been pondering worst case scenarios |
| 23:19.46 | elg | probably i'll just ignore him |
| 23:19.52 | maquis | elg: what happens if, a year down the road, you decide to take the ad down? |
| 23:20.29 | elg | if i were to go forward i'd press for an actual time limit. 1y, 2y, whatever. |
| 23:20.32 | redbeard2 | yeah, even if i were in the business of selling advertising space, i wouldn't sell anything without a time limit |
| 23:20.34 | elg | forever is too long |
| 23:20.41 | elg | even for an old boring blog post :) |
| 23:20.48 | maquis | agreed |
| 23:21.32 | maquis | i'd also have a clause saying that if he put anything objectionable, i could get out if it. if that meant thtat i had to return some percentage of the money, i still think that'd be an important point |
| 23:23.20 | redbeard2 | bah. use a no refund policy. |
| 23:24.42 | maquis | redbeard2: good point |
| 23:24.52 | maquis | if he's the one asking you to advertise, that sounds fair |
| 23:25.08 | maquis | maybe something like "if i take it down in the first month", just so he knows i'm not going to take the money and run or something? |
| 23:25.33 | redbeard2 | i remember once when i had an advertiser post objectionable content on my site |
| 23:25.43 | maquis | but if he's the one asking for you to advertise, then you get the rights to set the terms |
| 23:25.46 | redbeard2 | fortunately, adsense let me filter out anything that said "walmart" |
| 23:25.56 | maquis | oh... i meant if he posts objectionable content on his site |
| 23:26.08 | maquis | i don't want to be advertising for a site that has what i consider objectionable content |
| 23:26.47 | redbeard2 | maquis: me neither. that's why i refused to send visitors to walmart. |
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| 23:32.27 | tensai | jsmith: "The highway over Teton Pass is closed after avalanche control efforts brought a wall of snow 50 feet deep down over the road." |
| 23:33.25 | tensai | sounds to me like those avalanche controls were a good idea |
| 23:39.12 | jsmith | tensai: w00t! |
| 23:39.49 | jsmith | tensai: Having been stuck in many a non-controlled avalanche over both Teton Pass and down Snake River Canyon, I'd much rather they do controlled avalanches |
| 23:40.08 | tensai | jsmith: gonna be some good snowmobilin' this year :) |
| 23:40.27 | jsmith | tensai: I'm so jealous.... |
| 23:40.41 | jsmith | wishes he could just strap on a brain-bucket and turn back into a sled-head |
| 23:40.58 | tensai | pushes a crayon into jsmith's nose |
| 23:50.01 | rsimpkins | Tene: Did you ever e-mail me details regarding your presentation? I apologize if you have, I may have missed the e-mail. |
