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| 01:30.09 | Tene | Haha, I posted something on proggit. My tiny little P3 server isn't handling it very well. Load average: 21.04 |
| 01:30.22 | Tene | and rising |
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| 04:56.49 | harleypig | anyone active atm? |
| 04:57.58 | eggyknap | define "active" |
| 05:05.11 | harleypig | heh |
| 05:05.45 | harleypig | have a usb/ethernet cable question |
| 05:05.50 | harleypig | and a wii question |
| 05:10.23 | eggyknap | Meh... ask 'em, and see if anyone's active :) |
| 05:11.43 | harleypig | :] |
| 05:12.37 | harleypig | I've got what I thought was a USB/ethernet cable, but the ethernet end has a tiny plastic ridge that's preventing it from being plugged in ... anyone heard of something like this or is it just a defective plug? |
| 05:13.38 | harleypig | And can I use a simple USB/ethernet cable on a wii or am I forced to buy a lan adapter from sony? |
| 05:14.05 | eggyknap | isn't entirely sure what a "usb/ethernet cable" is, but presumes it's a Wii-thing |
| 05:15.37 | levi | So, it turned out our roast was bone-in after all. It came out absolutely perfect. |
| 05:16.02 | harleypig | It's a cable with a usb plug on one end and a ethernet plug on the otehr. |
| 05:16.06 | harleypig | s/otehr/other/ |
| 05:16.22 | eggyknap | Odd. |
| 05:16.30 | levi | Bizarre. Does it have embedded logic, or is it just a pin adapter? |
| 05:17.24 | harleypig | just a pin adapter |
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| 05:18.15 | eggyknap | wonders what happened to the other four ethernet pins... or does ethernet only use half the available wires? |
| 05:18.29 | harleypig | I have no idea |
| 05:20.16 | levi | 10/100 doesn't use all the wires. |
| 05:23.42 | levi | Only two pairs are used. |
| 05:27.16 | levi | It's so cool to have Pandora and Last.fm on an iPod. |
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| 05:46.59 | fugue88 | harleypig, I've such cables used in embedded devices, presumeably because the RJ-45-like part is cheaper to incorporate into the form factor than a USB-A or similar plug. |
| 05:47.32 | fugue88 | Or maybe because it locks in place. |
| 05:48.09 | fugue88 | It's also easy to crimp your own RJ-45s. I haven't seen that for USB connectors. |
| 05:50.59 | levi | I've seen RJ45 to DB9, but never RJ45 to USB. But I suppose the latter is just a modern variant of the former. It was the 'ethernet' description that threw me off. |
| 05:51.00 | harleypig | It's not a lock ... it's just a rigid ... umm ... ridge |
| 05:51.28 | harleypig | just wide enough that I can't get the ethernet plug into the port without putting too much force into it. |
| 05:52.34 | levi | I'm guessing that if you're expecting to actually do ethernet over this cable, it's some sort of a USB-powered ethernet adapter and not just a cable. |
| 05:52.57 | eggyknap | suggests a sharp knife. |
| 05:53.25 | harleypig | *shrug* It was for something I no longer have ... I was just trying to make it work for the wii ... |
| 05:54.02 | harleypig | as far as I can tell, there is nothing but a ... crap, can't remember the name ... a bulge near the usb end. |
| 05:54.09 | harleypig | translates signals. |
| 05:54.14 | harleypig | ? |
| 05:54.19 | harleypig | or maybe a transformer? |
| 05:54.29 | levi | A magnetic thingy? |
| 05:54.38 | levi | Or a bulge that contains a tiny circuit board? |
| 05:56.19 | harleypig | I don't think so ... it's a cylinder about 1/4" in diameter. |
| 05:56.28 | harleypig | about an inch long |
| 05:56.33 | eggyknap | ferrite bead...? |
| 05:56.48 | harleypig | for all I know, it's got imaginarium in it. |
| 05:57.01 | eggyknap | The cord wraps through it once, probably? |
| 05:57.39 | harleypig | again, I don't know ... it looks like it's a straight through. |
| 05:57.54 | levi | So, I don't imagine it's going to do anything for you unless the device was designed specifically to use it. |
| 05:59.08 | harleypig | There is no ethernet port on the wii that I can find ... so I have to assume that the lan adaptor would plug into the usb port. |
| 05:59.15 | harleypig | there's no other free port available. |
| 05:59.28 | harleypig | oh .. you mean the ethernet end. |
| 05:59.36 | harleypig | which has the little plastic ridge |
| 05:59.53 | levi | Yes, but an actual USB port is not the same thing as an ethernet port, no matter which way you rearrange the wires. |
| 06:00.38 | levi | Possibly it has a little plastic ridge to protect you from plugging it into a real ethernet jack. |
| 06:00.59 | harleypig | Right ... but the wii claims to have internet connectivity and the docs say I have to buy a lan adapter ... there is not other available port on the box. |
| 06:01.04 | harleypig | Ah I see the problem. |
| 06:01.15 | harleypig | I'm willing to accept that this particular cord isn't going to work |
| 06:01.47 | harleypig | The second part of my question was, am I going to be forced to use sony's lan adaptor or can I use any ethernet/usb cable on the wii. |
| 06:01.48 | levi | A LAN adapter is not the same thing as a cable that simply moves the USB signals to a different plug shape. |
| 06:02.30 | harleypig | I know. |
| 06:02.35 | levi | I'm guessing that they support some USB/ethernet adapters in the Wii OS, and you have to pick a supported one. |
| 06:02.52 | levi | I really don't know how standardized such things are. |
| 06:03.11 | harleypig | :] neither do i. |
| 06:04.14 | levi | But the only way for it to work is for there to be some cicuitry (an ethernet MAC/PHY combo plus a USB bridge and the necessary adapters and whatnot) and for that circuitry to be supported by the Wii. |
| 06:04.56 | harleypig | I understand ... hence my question. |
| 06:05.51 | harleypig | If they did a custom setup, then I'd be forced to buy their lan adapter ... |
| 06:06.36 | harleypig | otherwise, most likely, they would have use d a standardized format and I should be able to use a standard USB/ethernet cable. |
| 06:11.05 | levi | Again, there's no such thing as a standard USB/ethernet cable. |
| 06:14.02 | harleypig | then I was mistaken |
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| 06:45.16 | sargun-palm | remember, I always love you! |
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| 19:03.53 | harleypig | anyone familiar enough with ubuntu and broadcom drivers available for help? |
| 19:04.09 | peno | broadcom = fail |
| 19:04.36 | harleypig | broadcom != fail, broadcom == pita |
| 19:04.48 | peno | lol |
| 19:05.02 | harleypig | It was working just fine until my last update. |
| 19:05.07 | peno | that's been my experience with broadcoma under linux in general. |
| 19:06.07 | elg | there's a driver in 2.6 now |
| 19:06.15 | elg | that's all i know about the current state of affairs |
| 19:07.21 | harleypig | in the kernel? |
| 19:07.35 | harleypig | hmmm ... wonder if its incompatible with the ndiswrapper setup ... |
| 19:08.40 | elg | ya in the kernel |
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| 19:33.04 | Tene | I wish I could see the number of votes on an individual comment on reddit. |
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| 19:40.29 | levi_ipod | Good afternoon all. |
| 19:41.01 | Tene | HI LEVI |
| 19:41.10 | unum | good afternoon |
| 19:42.14 | levi_ipod | What's everyone up to? |
| 19:42.55 | unum | working for the man |
| 19:43.20 | levi_ipod | Bummer, dude |
| 19:43.21 | elg | wesnoth |
| 19:43.28 | Tene | Lounging around at my parents' house. Got snowed in last night and haven't gone home yet. |
| 19:44.04 | levi_ipod | I need to do some shoveling today |
| 19:44.20 | levi_ipod | Blah, snow |
| 19:44.23 | Tene | Paying far too much attention to a post I made on reddit. Probably something I should look to avoid in the future. |
| 19:45.19 | levi_ipod | So, we roasted some killer prime rib last night. |
| 19:45.24 | Tene | Toying with couchdb. |
| 19:46.03 | unum | anyone mess with the DB_CONFIG file for open ldap much? |
| 19:47.08 | levi_ipod | Got a 2-rib roast for $20 and cooked it to uniformly pink perfection |
| 19:48.24 | levi_ipod | And some pretty tall popovers, too |
| 19:48.31 | levi_ipod | Mmmmmmm |
| 19:48.50 | elg | levi_ipod: get more creative. how about "levipod" |
| 19:49.31 | levi_ipod | I'm not really in a creative mood :) |
| 19:53.08 | levi_ipod | Speaking of which, I'm going to go browse the app store some more. |
| 19:55.45 | elg | so it just occurred to me this old ibook that's mostly dead has a perfectly good harddrive somewhere inside |
| 19:55.54 | elg | should I cannibalize it or hold out hope beyond hope that someday it will come back to life? |
| 19:56.06 | elg | or i guess i could borrow the hdd |
| 19:56.09 | elg | "borrow" |
| 19:56.12 | elg | and not have to give up hope |
| 21:48.57 | elg | yikes, taking this iBook apart is going to be übercomplicated |
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| 22:40.33 | maquis | when will the stupid snow go away? |
| 22:41.12 | unum | when we invest in better schools for snow flakes |
| 22:41.21 | maquis | :( |
| 22:41.50 | elg | my son would envy your stupid snow |
| 22:42.14 | elg | first thing christmas morning wasn't "did santa come" or "let's open presents!" |
| 22:42.18 | elg | it was "is it winter now?!" |
| 22:42.32 | fozzmoo | maquis: I've got some pictures of our 4-foot snow drifts if that will make you feel better. |
| 22:43.08 | maquis | fozzmoo: at least over there, you guys are prepared for it |
| 22:43.21 | maquis | we were probably the only people trying to use chains on the roads over here |
| 22:43.25 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 22:43.46 | maquis | and tons of people all over the state are going crazy because none of the stores even have chains in stock |
| 22:44.11 | maquis | we're still getting cabin fever from getting cooped up here at the house, and it's still snowing |
| 22:44.20 | maquis | luckily, at least i can work from home... but still |
| 22:44.35 | maquis | ~lart emcnabb for fun |
| 22:44.35 | ibot | takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays emcnabb in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed for fun |
| 22:45.42 | emcnabb | let's be nice |
| 22:45.49 | emcnabb | this is a family friendly IRC channel |
| 22:46.52 | maquis | emcnabb: how's it going? |
| 22:47.01 | maquis | emcnabb: clowns aren't family-friendly? |
| 22:47.48 | emcnabb | it's going pretty well |
| 22:47.54 | emcnabb | just enjoying the holidays |
| 22:48.16 | maquis | fun |
| 22:48.30 | maquis | how old is your daughter now? |
| 22:48.36 | emcnabb | coming up on two |
| 22:48.42 | maquis | wow |
| 22:48.51 | maquis | she must've been pretty excited for christmas? |
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