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| 14:54.32 | elg | well plug finally died down |
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| 16:28.05 | high_roller | anyone want to buy a verizon BB pearl 8130? |
| 16:28.17 | high_roller | no contract |
| 17:10.27 | Sargun | *crickets* |
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| 17:13.03 | high_roller | no problem, I'd thought I would offer it incase anyone wanted it |
| 17:13.27 | jsmith | high_roller: How much you asking for it. I don't need it, but a friend might |
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| 17:15.29 | high_roller | $125 cause the screen is a little scratched up |
| 17:16.11 | high_roller | most of the contract free ones on ebay go fro 150-200 |
| 17:16.23 | jsmith | Right |
| 17:18.24 | harleypig | bulbous bouffant |
| 17:20.17 | tensai | harleypig: you don't say! |
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| 17:21.12 | harleypig | mukluks |
| 17:25.44 | levi | Good morning. |
| 17:26.07 | harleypig | Did you read the paper today? |
| 17:26.14 | levi | Yay for no more 'Ameros will clog the tubes' on PLUG. |
| 17:26.21 | levi | No, what's in the paper today? |
| 17:28.13 | harleypig | Did you read the thing about the ESKIMOS? |
| 17:28.43 | levi | o/~ I can't beleive the news today / Oh, I can't close my eyes and make it go away o/~ |
| 17:28.59 | harleypig | the article was saying that the Eskimos will eat the FAT from the whale. |
| 17:29.22 | levi | Is that wrong? |
| 17:29.42 | harleypig | Do you know what that's called? |
| 17:29.48 | levi | blubber |
| 17:29.51 | harleypig | LUBBER. [blubber: the fat of sea mammals, especially whales and seals:Walfischspeck] |
| 17:29.52 | eggyknap | Decent quality animal fat is a valuable commodity, modern American nutritional opinion notwithstanding. |
| 17:29.57 | high_roller | eskimo ice cream is made from seal fat and sugar |
| 17:29.58 | harleypig | s/LUBBER/BLUBBER/ |
| 17:30.07 | harleypig | BLUBBER |
| 17:30.13 | levi | Well, yeah. |
| 17:30.14 | harleypig | The Eskimos eat the BLUBBER. |
| 17:30.19 | eggyknap | Various tribes used to carry out much of their trade using animal fat as currency |
| 17:30.24 | harleypig | And the BLUBBER will come from different kinds of whales, you know? |
| 17:30.33 | high_roller | has eaten whale blubber |
| 17:30.53 | harleypig | Sometimes it will come from a BELUGA whale. [beluga: a small white-toothed whale related to the narwhal, also called "white whale"] |
| 17:31.18 | harleypig | BELUGA! |
| 17:31.28 | harleypig | They don't wear galoshes. |
| 17:32.22 | harleypig | They wear MUKLUKS |
| 17:32.23 | harleypig | ! [mukluk: a high, soft boot that is worn in the American Arctic and is traditionally made from sealskin] |
| 17:32.39 | harleypig | MUKLUKS! |
| 18:10.14 | levi | That semantic patch tool for kernel device drivers sounds awesome. |
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| 18:12.06 | Reilithion | Hey fungus |
| 18:13.25 | harleypig | anyone good with bash replacement operations? |
| 18:13.50 | harleypig | tag=${tag//./_/} for 1.8 is giving me 1_/8 |
| 18:14.07 | harleypig | I've tried tag=${tag//\./\_/} but I get the same thing. |
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| 18:14.47 | harleypig | feh |
| 18:14.54 | harleypig | don't need the last / |
| 18:15.08 | harleypig | How come I don't notice this stuff til *after* asking for help. |
| 18:16.21 | fungus | Hey Reilithion |
| 18:16.46 | Reilithion | How's it going? |
| 18:18.41 | fungus | It's snowing. It totally sucks |
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| 18:25.32 | Reilithion | I know |
| 18:25.40 | Reilithion | hates the snow |
| 18:26.06 | Reilithion | fungus: Were you as sad as I was that xmms was deprecated? |
| 18:27.26 | fungus | not really. I stopped using it years ago |
| 18:27.58 | Reilithion | What do you use now? |
| 18:29.45 | jshipley | I used to be a fan of xmms (it reminded me of early versions of winamp (I liked the early versions best)), but it's had issues for me. |
| 18:29.58 | jshipley | I just use mplayer from the console now :) |
| 18:30.29 | jshipley | or rhythmbox, on occasion |
| 18:31.19 | Sargun_Screen | harleypig: did you hear about your black water mercs? |
| 18:32.04 | Reilithion | jshipley: Curious. What issues? |
| 18:33.15 | jshipley | random crashes, and iirc, I had some problems getting wma files to work |
| 18:33.51 | jshipley | Have you looked at xmms2? |
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| 18:34.39 | jshipley | I'm happy with mplayer, because I pretty much just let my music play in the background and skip songs I don't feel like listening to |
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| 18:38.23 | Reilithion | jshipley: I develop for it. ^_^ |
| 18:39.03 | Nafai | Reilithion: For xmms? |
| 18:39.10 | Reilithion | xmms2 |
| 18:40.53 | Reilithion | It's a gorgeous player, if you ask me. |
| 18:41.15 | Reilithion | I'm still waiting for the Promoe client to come out with a release. |
| 18:43.06 | Nafai | I haven't used xmms for 5+ years |
| 18:43.06 | high_roller | xmms2 look pretty cool |
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| 18:43.36 | harleypig | Sargun_Screen: yeah |
| 18:43.44 | high_roller | no screen shots though |
| 18:44.20 | sjansen | So I wake up this morning and one clock is unplugged, another needs to be reset. No problem, I usually use the clock on my computer anyway. |
| 18:44.23 | levi | I haven't used xmms for ages either. It was just a crappy winamp clone. |
| 18:44.39 | sjansen | 8:10? Wow, 9 hours of sleep. I must have been tired. |
| 18:44.41 | Nafai | Not that I'm entirely pleased with any of my audio software |
| 18:44.42 | goozbach | sjansen: was late for work today |
| 18:44.56 | sjansen | Five minutes later my eyes can focus and I glance at the clock again. |
| 18:44.57 | Nafai | Part of it is I've been too lazy to clean up my music library |
| 18:45.18 | sjansen | It's not 8:10. It's Dec 8 10:50 AM! WTF! |
| 18:45.29 | Reilithion | high_roller: No screen shots because there are about a gazillion different front-ends for xmms2. |
| 18:45.56 | levi | I could have slept in until 10:50, but I have a wife and kids that prevent such things for ever happening. |
| 18:46.02 | levi | s/for/from/ |
| 18:46.06 | sjansen | Of course today is also the day the water heater decided to die. So I get to take a shower using a tupperware dish of water heated in the microwave. |
| 18:46.17 | high_roller | Reilithion: at least a few shots to give me an idea of what its like :) |
| 18:46.33 | harleypig | no kidding ... my kids (one or more) are usually standing by my bedside staring at me so intently I wake up from a deep sleep. At 5am. |
| 18:46.36 | levi | high_roller: Like xmms, but with a '2' after the name. :P |
| 18:46.40 | sjansen | "At least my car has been sitting in sun long enough to melt any frost", I think as I open my front door. |
| 18:46.45 | high_roller | levi: fair enough |
| 18:46.56 | sjansen | And discover it's snowing and my car is covered in an inch of the white stuff. |
| 18:46.59 | sjansen | *sigh* |
| 18:47.37 | goozbach | poor sjansen |
| 18:47.43 | levi | At some hour in the middle of the night/early morning, my daughter woke up screaming and I had to go sleep on her floor to get her back to sleep. I woke again and hour later or so and got back to bed. |
| 18:47.45 | Reilithion | high_roller: If my Promoe client were working, I'd send you a shot. But it's not a good idea to tie xmms2 to any particular look. It's designed so that the player is removed from the GUI, so any GUI could work with it. |
| 18:47.52 | levi | Now my neck is sore. |
| 18:47.54 | sjansen | But hey, at least I got 12 hours of sleep. :-) |
| 18:48.01 | levi | sjansen: You suck. |
| 18:48.17 | high_roller | Reilithion: one thing I really like is the remote control aspect |
| 18:48.56 | Nafai | sjansen: I'm afraid of how long I would sleep without an alarm or my wife to wake me up |
| 18:48.58 | levi | But I did get to sleep until almost 8, since my wife took care of the kids when they woke up at 6 or 7 or whenever it was. Plus she made pancakes and eggs. |
| 18:49.14 | jshipley | Reilithion: so it should work as well from a console as it does from x windows? |
| 18:49.46 | Reilithion | jshipley: Yes. It comes with a pretty powerful shell client. |
| 18:49.47 | sjansen | Except when I'm traveling for work, I haven't used an alarm since college. It's been wonderful. |
| 18:50.09 | sjansen | Of course now I'll be at work until after 7pm tonight. :-( |
| 18:50.43 | Reilithion | In fact, I've got Metacity keybindings set to various xmms2 commands, so I can, say, Hyper-B to move forward a song, or Hyper-V to stop playback. No matter what window has focus. |
| 18:50.50 | levi | I don't use an electric alarm clock because I have two of them made of flesh and blood. |
| 18:50.51 | jshipley | Reilithion: I might have to check it out then |
| 18:51.01 | Nafai | levi: :) |
| 18:51.25 | levi | They're surprisingly precise in their timing, but unfortunately I can't seem to change the time they go off. |
| 18:52.03 | Nafai | So goozbach, other G1 owners in the channel. Any apps you are dieing to have? I'd like to get into Android development and am looking for ideas |
| 18:52.18 | Reilithion | And here I was thinking that more people would use it if it had a GUI that looked like the old xmms. |
| 18:52.44 | jshipley | Reilithion: I'd still think that assumption would be correct |
| 18:53.04 | Reilithion | Then Promoe will help after all. |
| 18:53.14 | sjansen | Nafai: I want an app that changes the weather. It must be capable of prevent snow in the valleys. |
| 18:53.48 | Nafai | sjansen: I don't think the "has the powers of a god" API is yet exposed |
| 18:54.23 | Nafai | I seem fairly adept at ignoring my dog when she wants me to wake up, I wonder how I"ll be with children |
| 18:54.23 | Reilithion | Nobody has a shell login for root@universe yet? |
| 18:54.25 | levi | I'd totally buy a G1 with the "has the power of a god" feature. |
| 18:54.48 | jshipley | How old is the 0.5DrLecter-2 version? |
| 18:54.55 | Reilithion | July, I think. |
| 18:55.05 | levi | Nafai: children are louder, for one thing, and their screams are particularly sleep-defying. |
| 18:55.18 | Reilithion | We'll have a feature freeze on the 1st of January, so a new version is well on its way. |
| 18:55.30 | Nafai | levi: I imagine |
| 18:56.02 | jshipley | I think I'll try using it for a while |
| 18:56.31 | levi | And then your wife rolls over and says, "Could you take care of them this morning?" and that's the end of sleep. |
| 18:56.58 | Reilithion | w00t. ^_^ |
| 18:57.36 | sjansen | So 60% of visitor to gurulabs.com use Firefox. Only 17.% use Internet Explorer. :-) |
| 18:57.57 | Reilithion | sjansen: Cool. What percentage use Amaya? |
| 18:58.20 | levi | sjansen: I just visited with IE, to do my part to throw off your cool stats. ;) |
| 18:58.48 | sjansen | Reilithion: Would that be Unknown (7.5%) or Other (0.1%)? |
| 18:58.54 | Reilithion | Not sure |
| 18:59.02 | Reilithion | Come to think of it, does Amaya report itself? |
| 18:59.03 | sjansen | ~curse levi |
| 18:59.04 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, levi ! |
| 18:59.38 | sjansen | We also had exactly 1 hit by an OpenBSD user last week. |
| 19:00.36 | sjansen | 44.4% Linux. 40.6% Windows. 10.6% Unknown. 4.1% Macintosh. |
| 19:00.39 | levi | How about Chrome? |
| 19:01.34 | sjansen | levi: Don't know about Chrome. We'll be upgrading the site by the end of the year, at which point we'll also upgrade the stats software. |
| 19:02.15 | sjansen | But I can tell you we get slightly more Opera users than Safari users. |
| 19:07.10 | jshipley | Do you get more Opera than all the other webkit/khtml browsers combined? |
| 19:07.16 | goozbach | Nafai: a bookshelf tracking software |
| 19:07.31 | Nafai | goozbach: Like Delicious Library for the mac? |
| 19:07.57 | goozbach | scan your personal library (barcodes), check things out to friends, track books you want to buy... etc |
| 19:08.07 | Nafai | nods |
| 19:09.01 | jshipley | well, xmms2 seems to be slower at building a playlist than `find . -name *.mp3 > playlist.txt` |
| 19:10.09 | Reilithion | jshipley: Might be because it's also building an mlib. |
| 19:10.33 | Reilithion | Everything you play in xmms2 gets incorporated into an mlib. |
| 19:11.12 | Reilithion | You can then later search by album, artist, title, etc and add to the current playlist. |
| 19:11.13 | unum | eightyeight: Dokuwiki is looking nice |
| 19:11.21 | unum | I would actually prefer a database backend |
| 19:11.30 | unum | but I can live with out one |
| 19:16.27 | eightyeight | i like dokuwiki |
| 19:20.16 | unum | it really does seem to fit our needs better |
| 19:20.36 | unum | I'll just have to set up a seperate back up method |
| 19:22.00 | fungus | Reilithion: I gave up xmms for a real Music Library app. |
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| 19:22.33 | harleypig | I want a personal Pandora for my own collection |
| 19:22.33 | Reilithion | fungus: oh? Which one? |
| 19:22.43 | fungus | I've tried Banshee, Exaile, Rhythmbox, and Amarok. Standardized on Rhythmbox. |
| 19:22.49 | elg | can anyone here hit fugal.net on port 25? |
| 19:23.19 | fungus | nice python plugin interface, comes pre-installed without thought, and works quite well. |
| 19:24.06 | Reilithion | ic |
| 19:24.26 | fungus | elg, port open and responding to SMTP just fine |
| 19:24.29 | elg | thanks |
| 19:25.05 | eightyeight | what are the big star wars songs? there's the main theme, and the imperial march. are there others? |
| 19:25.18 | Reilithion | Too bad it can't play spc files atm. |
| 19:25.52 | fungus | rhythmbox will play anything gstreamer can. Just gotta find the right gstreamer plugins |
| 19:26.13 | Reilithion | gstreamer doesn't seem to have a sane spc plugin at the moment. |
| 19:26.24 | Reilithion | :-( |
| 19:26.28 | fungus | ah, well that could be a problem. |
| 19:26.32 | Reilithion | yeah |
| 19:27.19 | Reilithion | Ah well, at least it uses gstreamer. It has that going for it. |
| 19:29.13 | sjansen | eightyeight: goozbach will know. |
| 19:30.36 | fungus | Reilithion: Banshee and Exaile both use gstreamer too. |
| 19:30.53 | fungus | Amarok doesn't, but requires all that KDE crud. |
| 19:31.23 | Reilithion | fungus: Ever use Audacious? |
| 19:31.30 | eightyeight | i guess duel of the fates is popular from episode 1 |
| 19:32.25 | eightyeight | i've decided on the following ring tones for my centro: |
| 19:32.30 | vontrapp | Reilithion: i use it |
| 19:32.34 | eightyeight | known caller - main theme |
| 19:32.46 | eightyeight | unknown caller - duel of the fates |
| 19:32.50 | eightyeight | wife - imperial march |
| 19:32.56 | Reilithion | vontrapp: How do you like it? |
| 19:33.06 | vontrapp | i like it well enough |
| 19:33.09 | vontrapp | better than xmms |
| 19:33.17 | vontrapp | and it has imms support, so that's a definite bonus |
| 19:33.18 | elg | i like audacious well enough |
| 19:33.19 | high_roller | choosing a ring tone for the wife is a difficult thing |
| 19:33.30 | high_roller | they read too much into your choice |
| 19:33.32 | elg | it's not a library system, it's just an audio player |
| 19:33.58 | vontrapp | but who needs a library system when you have imms? |
| 19:34.00 | elg | if you think library cruft is neato you might steer clear. if you think an audio player should just freakin' play audio, you'll like it. |
| 19:34.16 | eightyeight | high_roller: my wife is cool with my choice. she laughs at it |
| 19:34.57 | Reilithion | What's imms? |
| 19:34.57 | high_roller | eightyeight: good |
| 19:34.57 | vontrapp | i chose "Better off alone" for both of us while we were still dating |
| 19:34.57 | elg | ~imms |
| 19:34.58 | ibot | i guess imms is an adaptive playlist framework that tracks your listening patterns and dynamically adapts to your taste. teh bestest |
| 19:34.58 | vontrapp | it has stuck so far |
| 19:34.58 | vontrapp | alice deejay |
| 19:34.58 | fungus | I've gotten lazy of the years, and I like the library cruft. Especially when connected to Gnome-Do. |
| 19:35.07 | elg | ~imms is http://www.luminal.org/wiki/index.php/IMMS/IMMS |
| 19:35.07 | ibot | ...but imms is already something else... |
| 19:35.13 | elg | oh |
| 19:35.15 | elg | slow bot |
| 19:35.20 | elg | ~imms is also http://www.luminal.org/wiki/index.php/IMMS/IMMS |
| 19:35.21 | ibot | elg: okay |
| 19:35.27 | vontrapp | only one time she gawked at it |
| 19:35.35 | vontrapp | i just told here i like the song |
| 19:35.37 | vontrapp | she got over it |
| 19:36.05 | fungus | however, after reading about imms, I might consider switching... |
| 19:36.52 | fungus | maybe I'll just write a rythmbox plugin for it. :P |
| 19:38.46 | Reilithion | lol |
| 19:39.13 | elg | wrote an imms daemon that babysits iTunes |
| 19:39.18 | elg | using applescript and ruby |
| 19:39.21 | vontrapp | wrote one for mpd |
| 19:39.33 | elg | the hard part is usually mapping the concepts |
| 19:39.36 | vontrapp | mines more hackish though |
| 19:39.39 | elg | the actual protocol is simple enough |
| 19:39.59 | vontrapp | elg: when are we ever going to get some significant progress on Rad? |
| 19:41.05 | elg | rap? |
| 19:41.11 | vontrapp | sure |
| 19:41.16 | Reilithion | I might have to figure out how to incorporate imms into xmms2... |
| 19:41.21 | vontrapp | except then you can't say "rap audio player" |
| 19:41.27 | vontrapp | unless you like rap i guess |
| 19:41.45 | vontrapp | xmms2 is trash |
| 19:42.13 | vontrapp | it's like they went out of their way to severely handicap the stupid thing |
| 19:42.24 | sjansen | xmms2 is tragic |
| 19:42.34 | vontrapp | it could have been soo good |
| 19:42.43 | vontrapp | grood even |
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| 19:43.56 | elg | tragic is the xmms webpage |
| 19:44.28 | vontrapp | that tragedy is a result of the first tragedy |
| 19:44.35 | elg | which it seems can now not even be seen via google cache |
| 19:45.34 | vontrapp | anyone seen the GM letter to the masses? |
| 19:46.09 | elg | rice and beans! |
| 19:46.37 | Reilithion | vontrapp: What handicaps are you referring to? |
| 19:46.48 | Reilithion | Why is it tragic? |
| 19:47.08 | vontrapp | no queuing, that's the main one i remember |
| 19:47.11 | vontrapp | but there were more |
| 19:49.13 | Reilithion | ... that's not a tragedy. that's a feature that's yet to be implemented. |
| 19:57.49 | sjansen | elg: ? |
| 19:58.24 | Reilithion | sjansen: Why do you think xmms2 is tragic? |
| 19:59.25 | vontrapp | elg: did they come over? |
| 19:59.31 | vontrapp | all the way out there? |
| 19:59.32 | sjansen | Because xmms1 languished ugly and unloved for so long that most people have moved on. xmms2 spent too long with too few features for many people to even remember than xmms ever existed. |
| 19:59.51 | elg | huh? |
| 19:59.52 | harleypig | I remember ... but I don't care now. |
| 19:59.56 | elg | my lunch |
| 20:00.08 | sjansen | <elg> rice and beans! |
| 20:00.12 | vontrapp | looks like xmms2 all but has queuing now |
| 20:00.13 | harleypig | It'd have to butter my toast and make my bed before I'd look at it again. |
| 20:00.14 | elg | my lunch |
| 20:00.18 | elg | but it needs salt |
| 20:00.24 | sjansen | your lunch |
| 20:00.29 | sjansen | your lunch is on fire |
| 20:00.38 | vontrapp | when it first came out i got the distinct impression they were of the attitude "no your queuing sucks and we are NEVER going to do it!!" |
| 20:00.38 | harleypig | quick! pee on it |
| 20:01.18 | vontrapp | This is why we need to borrow money from U.S. taxpayers. If we run out of cash, we |
| 20:01.19 | vontrapp | will be unable to pay our bills, sustain our operations and invest in advanced technology. |
| 20:01.54 | vontrapp | oh yeah? well if taxpayers pay your bills, they will then be unable to invest that money in advanced technologies :p |
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| 20:03.23 | sjansen | I'm not entirely opposed to giving Detroit a hand. But I want to see some _serious_ head knocking. Dissolving of unions. Firing of executives. That sort of thing. |
| 20:03.34 | sjansen | Of course it won't happen, but a guy can dream... |
| 20:03.42 | vontrapp | sjansen: if they did all that they wouldn't _need_ a hand |
| 20:04.25 | sjansen | I say we just sell the US to Toyota and get if over with. |
| 20:04.35 | vontrapp | also apparently their plan of action includes a stated dependency on "a modest rebound of the US economy" |
| 20:05.20 | vontrapp | i don't think that's going to happen, particularly not to the effect they would like |
| 20:06.19 | tensai | whatever we give them I'm sure they can figure out a way to squander it |
| 20:07.36 | vontrapp | the whole thing is basically "poor us, we thought we were doing the right thing, but now we know the error of our ways! please help us!!" |
| 20:08.23 | vontrapp | if they were so sure they were doing good before, how can i trust their current plan that they are so sure of will be any good? |
| 20:09.09 | vontrapp | and finally, of course, i shouldn't have to trust them, if someone else wants to trust them fine with me, but please not my money! |
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| 20:41.53 | levi | takes all of vontrapp's money and squanders it. |
| 20:41.56 | jshipley | Reilithion: is there a cli client for xmms2 that stays open and listens to keystrokes to pause, skip, ff, rew, etc? |
| 20:42.17 | vontrapp | levi: thx |
| 20:42.33 | Reilithion | jshipley: I think there's a curses client floating around somewhere... |
| 20:42.44 | levi | vontrapp: Better some random guy on the Internet than the government, right? |
| 20:43.00 | vontrapp | at least i know you |
| 20:45.29 | tensai | if we gave all our money to levi, I bet we could at least get free miata rides out of it |
| 20:45.47 | Reilithion | jshipley: I'm poking around on http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/wiki/Clients to see if there's one listed that looks like what you want. |
| 20:46.01 | levi | Heck yeah. And with the money, I could buy the supercharger I want for it, so they would be *fast* Miata rides. |
| 20:48.03 | jshipley | what I'd like best doesn't necessarily have to use curses, although I don't mind if it does. I'd like some basic output something (Artist - Song) every time a song starts |
| 20:48.12 | jshipley | not INFO: ../src/xmms/xform.c:1461: Successfully setup chain for 'file:///... |
| 20:48.35 | levi | jshipley: Hey, that doesn't have anything to do with people giving me their money. Let's stay on topic. ;) |
| 20:49.46 | jshipley | levi: I'll help stay on topic if you'll share with me :) |
| 20:50.21 | levi | What, a supercharged Miata ride isn't sharing enough? Gee you guys are greedy. ;) |
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| 20:50.31 | Reilithion | jshipley: Maybe kuechenstation? |
| 20:51.32 | jshipley | maybe, I can check it out |
| 20:51.33 | Reilithion | But that's old... hmm... |
| 20:52.41 | jshipley | I could probably whip something out in a few lines of python that would do what I want |
| 20:53.00 | Reilithion | And that's why I like xmms2. ^_^ |
| 20:54.01 | jshipley | It's basically listening for key presses, calling xmms2 functions, and then printing some output... |
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| 20:59.33 | Reilithion | jshipley: I'm writing something now. No idea if I'll get anything working, though. It'll be my first client. |
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| 21:02.54 | unum | eightyeight!!!!!! |
| 21:03.06 | eightyeight | unum: yo |
| 21:03.07 | unum | did you not teach anyone the order by RANDOM() command |
| 21:03.20 | unum | or did you not know about it |
| 21:03.23 | eightyeight | eh? |
| 21:03.28 | eightyeight | what are you talking about? |
| 21:04.11 | unum | when doing sample people have been adding a new column filling it with random integers and selecting by that column in order to get random out put |
| 21:04.18 | unum | s/out put/order |
| 21:04.44 | eightyeight | right. fill it with a random number, sort by the random number, pull the sample |
| 21:05.09 | unum | why not do an ORDER BY RANDOM() |
| 21:05.16 | unum | did paradox not support it |
| 21:05.37 | eightyeight | i don't recall. probably not. iirc, frank wrote some gui app to do it for us |
| 21:05.45 | eightyeight | paradox is a pretty lame app |
| 21:05.51 | eggyknap | unum: 1) I think you changed channels halfway through your post. 2) order by random() can be pretty slow, if you don't need all the rows |
| 21:06.15 | eightyeight | goes to an interview |
| 21:06.19 | unum | ya he's wrting a new one and was telling me how long it took to add random numbers to each column |
| 21:06.24 | unum | eggyknap: we need each row |
| 21:06.38 | unum | I switched channels because I realized I wanted to talk to eightyeight about it |
| 21:06.51 | unum | s/column/row |
| 21:07.05 | eggyknap | Far be it from me to criticize your use of channels :) |
| 21:08.14 | unum | I gues if we have to do it multiple times it would be faster to write it to each row. |
| 21:08.26 | unum | because you only have to do that once |
| 21:08.41 | unum | you get the same order each time but I'm not sure that matters |
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| 22:01.45 | Tene | http://www.perlfoundation.org/parrot/index.cgi/parrot-devel-0.7.0.png?action=attachments_download;page_name=parrot;id=20080823041511-0-7546 -- graph of number of commits to Parrot's repository. Commit velocity is still increasing. |
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| 22:03.08 | elg | pretty soon it will exceed c |
| 22:03.13 | elg | then we're all in trouble. |
| 22:03.47 | Tene | Heh. |
| 22:04.17 | elg | ~OMD++ |
| 22:04.33 | Tene | OMD? |
| 22:04.43 | elg | ~OMD |
| 22:04.57 | elg | ~lart the bot |
| 22:04.57 | ibot | resizes the bot's terminal to 40x24 |
| 22:05.19 | elg | ~omd is http://www.omd.uk.com/ |
| 22:05.19 | ibot | okay, elg |
| 22:05.21 | brac | [OFFICIAL OMD WEBSITE] |
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| 22:08.08 | jshipley | resizes ibot's terminal to 20x12 |
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| 22:21.09 | elg | -chat i know |
| 22:21.10 | brac | i know that my parents have them. |
| 22:21.15 | elg | cooties? |
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| 22:26.14 | harleypig | ?! 30 years !? |
| 22:26.24 | harleypig | feh |
| 22:30.46 | Supaplex | 30 year cooties. beware! |
| 22:32.19 | Reilithion | Any Python experts in here? |
| 22:32.39 | harleypig | The cult of the snake is based North Carolina |
| 22:32.49 | harleypig | or is it Florida? |
| 22:32.58 | jshipley | I'm not an expert, but I do know a bit about python |
| 22:33.22 | harleypig | Don't let it get you in it's grip ... if you do your a goner! |
| 22:33.56 | Reilithion | I have this problem: http://pastebin.com/m637abcfa |
| 22:34.01 | jshipley | I got caught by python... "I'm not dead yet" |
| 22:34.08 | jshipley | I'm getting better |
| 22:37.20 | Reilithion | nvm. Got it working. |
| 22:37.40 | Supaplex | working how? |
| 22:38.32 | jshipley | ok, I've figured it out, but since you have as well I won't bother explaining it :) |
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