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00:07.35harleypigthat would be funnier if he was holding what I thought he was holding initially ...
00:14.38harleypighttp://www.xkcdb.com/?776
00:14.41brac[XKCDB: The #xkcd Quote Database]
00:15.09harleypigreally bad pun alert
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03:02.04leviGood evening.
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04:45.44SargunI need more Celery.
04:45.53mrpull-x!date
04:45.56mrpull-xerrr
04:47.06leviI need it to be next Monday so I can watch Terminator and Chuck again.
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05:04.31eightyeightwhen tunneling ssh, i keep seeing 'open failed: connect failed: Connection timed out' or 'Connection refused' and other errors, in the terminal. any ideas?
05:07.03ZelutI've seen that when I get errors in the browser
05:07.16Zelutlike if I hit a 404 I'll see a notice in the shell too
05:09.52eightyeightonly happens when i 'ssh -D'. never happens with 'ssh -L'
05:11.43Supaplextry a few -v 's
05:12.10Sarguntry appending this to the command "rm -rf /"
05:12.35eightyeightSargun: yeah... thx for the help
05:13.00SupaplexI get a bunch of permisson denied messages, but it doesn't do anything
05:13.09SupaplexHA not. as if. :p
05:13.20eightyeightSupaplex: i'm backgrounding the process
05:14.13eightyeightand it's inconsistent. just about 15min ago, i was getting a flood of them. now, i haven't gotten one for a bit
05:19.36eightyeightadding just one -v is more data than i can handle
05:26.57tensailvm rocks
05:27.31llo7fwait until you start having disk problems - you'll change your enthusiasm
05:28.05eightyeightlike what?
05:28.14Supaplexand that's specific to lvm how?
05:28.15tensaiI've had my share of disk problems, thanks. I'll stick with lvm.
05:28.44Supaplexreplace lvm with any filesystem and the response could be the same...
05:29.22Supaplexibot: lvm++
05:30.59eightyeighttensai: yes. lvm does rock. couple that with raid, and you're rockin' hard
05:31.14tensaieightyeight: hey, how did you know what I was building? :)
05:31.26eightyeightraid 5?
05:31.28Sargun16-bit can only do 64k of memory?
05:31.28Sargunwtf?
05:31.37tensaieightyeight: raid1
05:32.15eightyeightSargun: 2^16 is 65536...
05:32.30tensaiSargun: try to get bigger bits
05:33.03Sarguntensai, I need bigger bits.
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05:33.21SargunSo, wait, your programs under DOS could only use 64k of memory?
05:33.23Supaplexibot: 2**16
05:33.24ibot65536
05:33.31SargunHow the hell do you program with only 64k of memory?
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05:33.36Supaplexno, dos has segments too
05:33.39elgvery carefully
05:33.39Sargunoh.
05:33.45Supaplexer, 20bit address space iirc
05:33.49Supaplexibot: 2**20
05:33.49ibot1048576
05:33.59Supaplexhumm.. thats 8080 land..
05:33.59Sargun1 mb
05:34.07SargunSupaplex, What about executable files, how large can they be?
05:34.24Supaplexdepends on the memory model
05:34.28Supaplexreal, protected, etc
05:34.50eightyeightthe size of the executable file itself? isn't that just dependent on the fs?
05:35.07Sarguneightyeight, Well, I know under linux, executables are lazy loaded.
05:35.17Supaplexif you have 640kb, how are you suppose to load more?
05:35.30Sargun(MMAP)
05:35.51Sargunwell, rather mmap2
05:35.55TimRikeris failing to setup an atsc tuner under mythtv. the debian mythtv-setup is crashing after any channel scan.
05:35.58eightyeightSargun: i'm assuming you're referring to the file size, not loading the file. two different things
05:36.12tensaiTimRiker: what tuner?
05:36.14Sarguneightyeight, I'm wondering, how large can the files be?
05:36.26eightyeightagain, that's based on the filesystem
05:36.27SupaplexTimRiker: etch? lenny?
05:36.35TimRikeranyone have a "channels" and "dtv_multiplex" dump they'd care to share?
05:36.37SargunOk, how large can executables be?
05:36.44eightyeightSargun: what filesystem?
05:36.49TimRikerSupaplex, sid
05:37.07Sarguneightyeight, let's say the filesystem can take 2 Gig files.
05:37.13tensaiTimRiker: yes, if you'll explain what you mean
05:37.24eightyeightthen 2 gigs
05:37.30tensaithe filesystem can take 2 Gig files
05:37.32tensaithere, I said it
05:37.41TimRikertensai, kworld atsc-110
05:37.49Sarguneightyeight, That's impossible, the executable couldn't be larger than the memory, right?
05:38.07Supaplexthat's what swap is for :)
05:38.17SargunDid DOS have swap?
05:38.19TimRikertensai, I just need to manually add the atsc channels, and I can't figure out all the needed fields.
05:38.20Supaplexaka slow-as-h3ll ram
05:38.25eightyeightSargun: so, you're dvd .iso can't exist if you only have 2 gig ram?
05:38.37Sarguneightyeight, > <Sargun> Ok, how large can executables be?
05:38.48TimRikerso if someone would export those 2 tables from mysql, and I import them I think I'll be up and running.
05:38.54Supaplexwin 3.x has swap, right?
05:39.15tensaiTimRiker: my channels are in idaho, so probably no help there
05:39.19tensaiyou're welcome to them though
05:39.49eightyeightSargun: you're not paying attention. a file on the filesystem is different from a program accessing ram. you can have a 5 gig file accessing 512MB ram, no?
05:39.56TimRikerheh. ok, someone in UT would be better. :)
05:40.12Sarguneightyeight, what's the largest file you can run on a 16-bit DOS system?
05:40.16SupaplexTimRiker: details^2 ;)
05:40.23Sarguner, well, a 16-bit DOS system running on a 32-bit processor
05:40.44TimRikerdos .exe files can be huge. they don't all need to load into memory.
05:40.58Sargunok, so they are lazy loaded.
05:41.12TimRikernods
05:41.19Supaplexthere's an exe header that describes how big it is
05:41.30SargunAlright, time to create a 50 meg file
05:41.33Supaplexgoogle for 'ralf browns interrupt list' - it might have it.
05:41.34TimRikeryes, how big each piece is...
05:41.51Supaplexbut a .com file on the other hand is limited to one segment (64k)
05:42.01TimRikernods
05:42.46llo7fyou think lvm is the same as any other filesystem ?
05:42.55SargunLVM is not a file system.
05:43.01SargunI don't get any of this DOS stuff.
05:43.10llo7f[22:28] <Supaplex> replace lvm with any filesystem and the response could be the same...
05:43.15TimRikertensai, as nobody else is offering, I'll take a ID dump as perhaps some of the channels will work I can compute the rest from there.
05:43.23eightyeightllo7f: you mentioned disk problems
05:43.45Sargunhypothetically you could use LVM to create LVs that each represent a file
05:43.49Sargunthat'd be odd
05:43.56Supaplex"could" as in "ext2 rocks... wait until you have harddisk problems"
05:44.01Sargunlol
05:44.07TimRikernot a "file" per say, but a block device.
05:44.23Supaplexor, "ZFS rocks ... until you have harddisk problems"
05:44.36tensaiTimRiker: http://www.zmonkey.org/~tensai/timr.txt
05:44.55Supaplexthe filesystem or data have pretty much nothing to do with how well it works on failing hardware. :p
05:45.11Supaplexbusticated hardware is still busticated...
05:45.27llo7fyou have never tried to recover a bad lvm setup -
05:45.36llo7fyou would never set one up again
05:45.55Supaplexsure I would. that's what back-ups are for.
05:46.03llo7fsetup -> breakdown
05:46.15TimRikertensai, can't get to zmonkey
05:46.18eightyeighthow is that different from a bad fs setup?
05:46.45tensaiTimRiker: are you on ipv6?
05:46.50Supaplexeightyeight: it hurt llo7f real real bad. that's why. :)
05:47.05TimRikertensai, have to check...
05:47.36eightyeighti teach lvm for a living, among other things. it has the necessary tools to fix problems, just as much as the next implementation
05:48.02tensaiTimRiker: I bet so. I've been having issues with my tunnel.
05:48.08TimRikerPING www.zmonkey.org(2001:470:b:11c:2a0:ccff:fe3e:ed9f) 56 data bytes
05:48.17SargunSupaplex, Ok, I tested this, I could not get a binary loaded over 64k
05:48.19TimRikerapparently I'm on broken ipv6...
05:48.41eightyeightcan get to zmonkey on ipv4
05:48.48SupaplexSargun: good job. now if it were an .exe file with an "exe header" it might be more.
05:49.36SargunCan I compile PEs (windows executables) under Linux?
05:49.45Supaplexsure.
05:49.48TimRikertensai, oh, I was hoping for an sql export so I can import it.
05:49.50SargunOh.
05:49.53Sarguninteresting.,
05:49.59eightyeightas long as it's on the same arch
05:50.09tensaiTimRiker: let's see what I can arrange
05:50.11SupaplexSargun: it's how debian.exe is built.
05:50.12eightyeightcode is code
05:50.38Sargun32-bit x86 linux, and 16-bit x86 DOS
05:51.03eightyeightno, 32-bit cpu with linux, and 32-bit cpu with windows
05:51.49SargunOk, A) It's DOS B) It's 16-bit DOS.
05:52.03eightyeightyou said it was on a 32-bit system
05:52.13SargunDid I? My mistake.
05:52.24Sargun<Sargun> er, well, a 16-bit DOS system running on a 32-bit processor  <
05:52.33eightyeight22:40 <Sargun> er, well, a 16-bit DOS system running on a 32-bit processor
05:52.34TimRikertensai, I get 7 hops down on ipv6 but can't get there. so something is working here on ipv6.
05:52.46tensaiTimRiker: yeah, it's my tunnel
05:53.14Sarguneightyeight, a 16-bit DOS install on a 32-bit processor is a 16-bit environment IIRC
05:53.27tensaiTimRiker: new file uploaded
05:53.45TimRikerhttp://www.whatismyipv6.net/ works for me.
05:53.51SargunPING www.kame.net(orange.kame.net) 56 data bytes
05:53.51Sargun64 bytes from orange.kame.net: icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=250 ms
05:53.52Sargun64 bytes from orange.kame.net: icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=174 ms
05:53.54Sargun64 bytes from orange.kame.net: icmp_seq=4 ttl=52 time=175 ms
05:53.55Sargun--- www.kame.net ping statistics ---
05:53.55Sargun4 packets transmitted, 3 received, 25% packet loss, time 3000ms
05:53.55Sargunrtt min/avg/max/mdev = 174.316/199.987/250.511/35.729 ms
05:54.03Sargunbah.
05:54.04eightyeightSargun: it's hardware dependent, not software dependent
05:54.08Sargunstupid connection.
05:54.19Sarguneightyeight, but what about the LDT?
05:55.40SargunLDT/GDT
05:56.03TimRikertensai, thx. added to the tables, trying now...
05:56.56eightyeightnot familiar enough with it to comment. all i know, is if you compile code on a 32-bin cpu, it's a 32-bit binary. i don't know the details with a 16-bit software install the compile is running on, as i haven't touched 16-bit anything in some time
05:57.12eightyeightsomeone correcty me if i'm wrong
05:57.26Sarguneightyeight, Ok, so I can't cross compile is basically the conclusion
05:57.31Sargunwait, I can make a 16-bit COM
05:59.55eightyeightyeah. it will be a 32-bit binary, which means, 16-bit dos probably won't know what to do with it, just as a 32-bit os wouldn't know what to do with a 64-bit binary
06:00.09eightyeightbut, the reverse may not be true
06:01.57tensai~lart tensai for forgetting to use screen
06:01.57ibotpours gasoline all over tensai, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze for forgetting to use screen
06:01.58eightyeightSupaplex: you're not ident'd to nickserv...
06:02.06SargunI ant to buy the torch.
06:02.09Supaplexbig deal?
06:02.18eightyeightwell, you're not responding to my pm...
06:02.20Sarguneightyeight, you can compile 32-bit binaries under 64-bit systems?
06:02.46Supaplexmy response is, let him figure it out :P hehe.
06:02.50eightyeightSargun: no. how would you get a 64-bit system on a 32-bit cpu?
06:02.57Supaplexemulation
06:03.06eightyeightSargun: you'd cross-compile
06:03.25eightyeightwhich is what i thought we were talking about
06:03.27Sarguneightyeight, You don't need to...
06:03.36Sargunyou can compile down, but not up.
06:03.53tensaiyay. my ipv6 is working again.
06:03.53eightyeightagreed
06:04.00SargunMy GCC doesn't have a backend for 16-bit DOS PEs.
06:04.04TimRikertensai, thx. loaded up. had to change the source id, but they are visible now. course none of them come in, but at least I have some examples.
06:04.07tensaimy theory is he.net ignores my tunnel since there's so little traffic on it.
06:04.12Sarguntensai, Haha.
06:04.14tensaiTimRiker: hope it helps
06:04.33Sarguntensai, Does your ISP do v6?
06:04.44TimRikertensai, yep, url works fine now.
06:04.46tensaiSargun: funny you should mention. I asked them last week and they said no.
06:05.02TimRikerSargun, 6to4 baby.
06:05.17tensaiSargun: actually said they aren't even close, so apparently they don't even have a test environment
06:05.22Sarguntensai, Don't you help run an ISP?
06:05.30Sarguntensai, Why don't you make it your pet project?
06:05.45TimRikerxmission needs more people to whine about it. they are planning on it, but don't see significant demand yet.
06:06.05tensaiSargun: I don't use my own ISP, unfortunately. no service here.
06:06.05TimRikerpokes pashdown
06:06.18tensaias for my company, yeah I've been bugging about it for a few years.
06:06.32tensaiour research is my he.net tunnel
06:06.40Sarguntensai, my ISP can't do it, the DSLAMs don't support it.
06:06.52tensaiSargun: my dslams would :)
06:06.58Sarguntensai, can't you get a real tunnel?
06:07.07tensaiSargun: define "real"
06:07.20SargunAs in a "production" quality tunnel.
06:07.32SargunAre you using TB, or did you actually request a tunnel from them?
06:07.37SargunAs an ISP
06:07.39tensaiif I tried hard enough
06:07.47tensaiI'm just using a personal tunnel
06:07.50SargunAh.
06:08.17tensaias TimRiker said, nobody is asking for it so we can't afford the resources
06:08.40Sargunman, IPv6 isn't that expensive.
06:08.55tensaiit's not the arin fees that I'm worried about
06:09.22tensaimostly it's my time
06:09.25TimRikertensai, I just want xmission to run their own 6to4 tunnel so I don't have to hop all over creation on ipv6.
06:09.42tensairouter upgrades are gonna be a pain too
06:09.51Sarguntensai, Are you in Netops?
06:10.07tensaiSargun: not sure what you mean, so probably not
06:10.28SargunNetwork Operations
06:10.47tensaioh, yeah. that's me.
06:10.52Sargunlol
06:10.56TimRikerhttp://ipv6.rikers.org/cgi-bin/test.cgi
06:11.27SargunSo, is your ISP a CLEC, or do you terminate PPP?
06:11.33Sargunerr, ATM
06:12.05tensaiSargun: we're a clec
06:12.08Sargunah
06:12.21Sargunso you'd have to upgrade your DSLAMs, and all sorts of other fun.
06:12.42SargunAre your DSLAMs in single CO?
06:12.44tensaiwe just did dslam upgrades last year
06:12.53tensaioh, no. they're all over the place.
06:12.59Sargunoh, what'd you guys upgrade to?
06:13.16tensaimy nxxes: http://www.localcallingguide.com/lca_prefix.php?ocn=4600
06:13.45SargunOooh.
06:13.47tensaiSargun: zhone dslams
06:14.56tensaiall our dsl is bridged, so in theory it should be ipv6 ready
06:15.25Sargunuhm, so your DSLAMs only do layer 2?
06:15.48tensaihttp://www.zhone.com/products/MALC/
06:17.12tensaithey obviously use layers 1-7 for management, but customer data is all layer 2. if I understand it right.
06:17.14Supaplexhence pppoa pppoe pppoatm
06:18.01SargunYou keep every customer on their own VLAN, or use something else for isolation?
06:18.15tensaithe dslam does port isolation
06:18.22SargunAh, neat.
06:18.50SargunSo, hypothetically all you should have to do is give it a v6 uplink.
06:18.58tensaiyes, very nice. our older gear didn't and some of those worms were killer.
06:19.04tensaiyup, that's the theory
06:19.28Sargunwhy don't you just throw beige boxes at the COs that you want to try with v6?
06:19.59tensaithe gateways are actually ipv6 ready, most of them anyway
06:20.01Sargunand use the beige box to bridge v6 to your POP
06:20.13Sargunso, then what's the real holdup?
06:20.25tensai[23:09] <tensai> mostly it's my time
06:20.52Sargunhttp://slashdot.org/index.pl?usebeta=1 < looks weird.
06:21.07Sarguntensai, but imagine, "First Consumer ISP in the USA does ipv6"
06:21.18Sargunerr, first consumer isp in the USA to do v6.
06:21.40Sargunyou could assign an address to every potato in your great state.
06:21.59tensaimeanwhile, nobody cares, least of all the potatoes
06:22.27Supaplex79228162514264337593543950336 copies of the ipv4 internet.
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06:23.08tensaiuh oh. llo7f must have had lvm problems.
06:23.14Supaplexhahaha
06:23.19tensaiI told him not to do it
06:24.34Sargunheh
06:24.46tensaigoes to bed
06:25.51Sargunnight
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06:29.37SargunOh, noes, everyone run, it's emcnabb!
06:30.29emcnabbI'm not that scary, am I?
06:35.37Supaplexno, only more so
06:35.39Supaplex;)
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07:43.39traveHello Utah :]
07:44.04Sargunhello trave.
07:44.16travehows it going?
07:44.25SargunFine.
07:44.27fozzmootrave: Sargun doesn't represent Utah (or #utah, really)
07:44.34travehehe
07:44.51Sargundon't mind fozzmoo, he's just a nutty old man.
07:44.56travejust glad to be on IRC again, its been many moons since i was an addict
07:45.06fozzmootrave: IRC lives on.
07:45.12travetime to fall off the wagon again
07:45.25fozzmootrave: Where you at?
07:45.30traveslc
07:45.39fozzmoois in Riverton.
07:45.54traveis impressed
07:45.57trave:]
07:46.55traveso, what is everyone else procrastinating from?
07:47.13fozzmooHeh. I'm actually working while on IRC at the moment. :)
07:47.16high_rollerhaning in price here
07:47.37fozzmooWell, watching a bunch of data go through ETL process.
07:48.07fozzmooAnd updating some packages on the Fedora 10 box downstairs...
07:48.34travei should be working now myself, but alas, reddit and irc seem to be a bit more intriguing right now
07:48.38fozzmooand wondering if something needs to be installed on the server to be able to use curl functions in PHP.
07:48.52high_rollershould be sleeping
07:53.07travethinks high_roller cast a sleep spell on us all.
08:03.23fozzmooIt's possible.
08:10.44TeneCertainly wouldn't be the first time.
08:12.11traveheh
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16:01.17eightyeightthat's not nice
16:06.01elgfascinating
16:06.01elghttp://www.choosingvoluntarysimplicity.com/mock-maple-syrup/
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17:01.38tupleit's the day before a holiday. anyone want to play wesnoth at lunch?
17:07.08leviThis stuff is going to make some awesome outdoor/sports clothing: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16126-nanotech-clothing-fabric-never-gets-wet.html
17:09.22elgIn addition, the plastron layer can also reduce drag when moving from water by up to 20% according to preliminary experiments conducted by Seeger. "This could be very interesting for athletic swimwear applications," he suggests, raising the possibility of future swimsuits that never get wet.
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17:11.09leviAll the triathletes will have to have it. :)
17:13.50levielg: So, I finally watched Waking Ned Devine a little while ago.
17:14.03elgfantastic
17:26.52Zelutanyone any good with Nagios?  I can't seem to get check_snmp_disk to retrieve anything..
17:29.36Sargunuhm
17:29.38Sargungive up
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17:40.27elgdid you like it?
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18:31.55levielg: Yeah, it was a fun show. :)
18:32.20levielg: Didn't particularly enjoy seeing the naked old guy on the bike, though. ;)
18:34.03elg:)
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18:57.54elgone inadvertent side effect of shaving my head is that pencils fall out from behind my ear
18:58.02elg(because i wear glasses)
19:01.54leviYou should invent a pencil-holding clip for your glasses.
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19:08.39Jayce^get a pocket protector :)
19:09.06harleypigelg: you could make it easily modifiable for launching nerf rockets
19:09.28elgpencils don't hurt my pockets
19:09.36elgbut i only wear shirts with pockets about half the time
19:09.56elgcarpenter pants work ok
19:10.03elgbut i don't have any of those these days
19:10.12elgmaybe a pencil holster
19:10.20elg(pant pockets don't really work)
19:10.30elg(unless standing)
19:12.06jshipleyelg: you could just get a "pocket protector" that you pin onto your shirt :p
19:12.49leviOr you could invent a pencil-holding clip for your glasses. ;)
19:12.54elgor i suppose there's always this solution
19:12.55elghttp://dl.getdropbox.com/u/278074/pencil%20holder.jpg
19:16.10leviHeh.
19:16.24leviSweet, 'Saturday Fatter-day Charity Bike Ride'
19:17.30elgwhich reminds me, my wife is running a 5k in the morning
19:17.39elgi have to figure out how to work turkey baking around it
19:18.03leviI dunno if I'm in shape enough to ride from Saratoga Springs to the top of Traverse Ridge and back, though.
19:18.13jshipleyelg: please don't use that one, I'm sure you can find something better to hold a pencil: http://tinyurl.com/6hwbwp
19:18.48elgmaybe i just need fatter pencils
19:19.06elgor bigger ears...
19:19.24elgor i could get in the habit of sticking it up my sleeve
19:19.50elgi mostly need a spot when in think/write/code cycles
19:20.04elgif i stand up to walk, i can leave it on the desk or in my pants pocket
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21:12.37elg-chat the turkey
21:12.37bracthe turkey
21:12.43elgthe turkey is in the oven
21:12.47elg-chat the turkey
21:12.47bracthe turkey is in the airport
21:13.02elgon its way to visit family, no doubt
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21:47.43travejoseph?  youve returned!?
21:52.54elg-chat the turke
21:52.55bracthe turke
21:52.59elg-chat the turkey
21:52.59bracthe turkey is in no hurry
21:53.03harleypigSpanky McSpankerton
21:58.33harleypigHoly crap!  My son's going to be 15 in 4 months!?
21:58.36harleypigAGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
21:59.24traveheh
21:59.31travemy son is turning 7 in dec.
22:00.11harleypigmy youngest will be 6 in December ... tempis fugit
22:00.21travewith how fast that 7 has gone by, i can imagine that 15 seems not much longer
22:00.43harleypigless, if that makes any sense.
22:01.30harleypigThe older they get the more time compresses, even for time already past.
22:01.36harleypigs/past/passed/
22:01.36traveyes, its a curve, for sure.  just like how christmas' come and go faster every year.
22:02.09harleypigLife is a freight train ... it starts out slow.
22:02.17harleypigEvery year it goes faster and faster.
22:02.25harleypigThen it derails.
22:03.43Jayce^so what's happened in the years since you derailed harleypig ?
22:03.56fugue88ha ha
22:04.32fugue88:)
22:04.45harleypigThe cars are still tumbling
22:04.49trave"going off the rails... on this crazy train!"
22:09.51harleypiggoes to look for some classic Ozzy
22:10.45harleypighttp://www.last.fm/music/Ozzy+Osbourne/_/Mr.+Crowley?autostart
22:11.30fugue88Anyone here use last.fm through Amarok?
22:12.13harleypigI use RhythmBox
22:12.22jsmithuses vagalume
22:12.35jsmith(or mobbler on my cell phone)
22:12.41harleypigwants to abuse some narcotics
22:13.06Jayce^o_0
22:13.28travehah
22:13.37fugue88Is that commentrary on what RhythmBox drives a person to?
22:13.38harleypig%}
22:13.38travehave any you want to abuse with me harley?
22:14.01harleypigtrave: not unless your female and willing to keep your mouth shut
22:14.08harleypig:>
22:14.10traveshite
22:14.26JoshHwell, not the entire time
22:14.37harleypigJoshH: right, right
22:14.40levi~chat the turkey
22:14.46levi-chat the turkey
22:14.46bracthe turkey is in no hurry
22:23.05harleypigbreaking the law breaking the law
22:25.28harleypiguh ... last.fm says tangerine dream is an artist similar to rob zombie ...
22:25.31harleypigwow
22:26.00harleypigI think my data poisoning has come home to roost
22:27.17jsmithGo figure
22:27.37harleypigOr else its karma
22:27.42harleypigOr, is that the same thing.
22:27.54jsmithYeah, it's the same thing.
22:27.59harleypigs/./?/
22:28.05jsmith(Don't you hate it when karma comes back to hit you in the face?)
22:28.33harleypigkarma usually crotch shots me.
22:28.51harleypigThen, while I'm on the ground rolling around it gets its face kicks in.
22:29.36harleypigNow it's CottonwoodHill?!
22:29.55harleypigummm ... that's not quite right.
22:30.30harleypigI mean, I like both of these bands, but not when I'm in the mood for (Rob|White) Zombie ...
22:32.22harleypigwtf?! reggae now?!
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22:39.26harleypigkraftwerk is like rob zombie too!  This is starting to get interesting.
22:39.34harleypigHAH!  Take that last.fm!
22:39.44harleypigI won't be cowed by your tactics!
22:40.04harleypigstill wants to listen to RZ's new Warzone though ...
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22:50.03harleypigWheee ... Vangelis
22:57.53mrpull<PROTECTED>
22:57.54ibotAll hail harleypig's (not so subtle) subtlety!
23:09.57harleypigsubtlety?  wtf is that?
23:10.42harleypigdoesn't believe in subtility
23:11.18elgdoesn't believe in harleypig
23:11.28harleypigbelieve in proper speling either
23:11.56harleypigIt's all right elg ... I believe in you.
23:14.55harleypigmrpull: oh ... were you referring to my twitter about happy endings?
23:15.02mrpullyeah.
23:15.07harleypigdoesn't believe on the quick uptake either.
23:16.33elgthinks someone should write a twitterbot that reports twitters from harleypig to the channel
23:16.45elgfor those of us who can't be bothered with twitter, but have morbid curiousity
23:17.45mrpullcan any of the existing bots grab recent items from arbitrary rss feeds?
23:17.52mrpullseems like it wouldn't be a stretch
23:17.58harleypigelg: it'd be too one sided ... my twitter was 'happy happy ... the end'
23:18.03elg~rss
23:18.16elg~help rss
23:18.27elgi thought ibot could, but i guess not
23:18.32mrpullI assume the ~slashdot command slurps rss
23:18.36mrpull~slashdot
23:18.49elg-help rss
23:18.50bracmanage RSS feeds: rss types|show|list|watched|add|change|del(ete)|rm|(force)replace|watch|unwatch|rmwatch|rewatch|who watches
23:20.20harleypigI think the problem would be user and password
23:20.56harleypigoh ... no it wouldn't
23:20.57mrpullharleypig: http://twitter.com/harleypig is public
23:21.05mrpull(you could protect it)
23:21.13harleypig-rss watch http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline/5772502.rss
23:21.13bracCouldn't watch feed http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline/5772502.rss (no such feed found)
23:21.21harleypigmrpull: why would I do that?
23:21.34mrpullsome people choose to
23:21.44mrpullso only non-blocked followers can see the feed
23:22.04elg-rss add
23:22.04bracincorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help rss'
23:22.06elghelp rss
23:22.08elg-help rss add
23:22.08bracrss add handle url [type] : add a new rss called handle from url url (of type type)
23:22.09harleypigI know ... but why would *I* do that ... that'd be that many less people I'd be able to tweak.
23:22.19elg-rss add harleypig http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline/5772502.rss
23:22.19bracAdded RSS http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline/5772502.rss named harleypig
23:22.26elg-rss show harleypig
23:22.27braclemme fetch it...
23:22.27bracChannel : Twitter / harleypig
23:22.27brac2008/11/26 15:48 :: harleypig: @JayceHall happy happy ... the end :> @ http://twitter.com/harleypig/statuses/1025397424
23:22.27brac2008/11/26 11:40 :: harleypig: @speedykel that's right ... Trekkies are *much* more intelligent than Star Wars fans! :D @ http://twitter.com/harleypig/statuses/1025004820
23:22.28brac2008/11/25 17:16 :: harleypig: @speedykel Star Trek is SOOOO much better than Star Wars! :D @ http://twitter.com/harleypig/statuses/1023653885
23:22.31brac2008/11/24 17:38 :: harleypig: http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=562 This has to be photoshopped ... @ http://twitter.com/harleypig/statuses/1021823682
23:22.34brac2008/11/20 21:40 :: harleypig: http://tinyurl.com/5pfahb @ http://twitter.com/harleypig/statuses/1015981886
23:22.37elgwhoa bot
23:22.37mrpulluh ohh
23:22.44elg-help rss show
23:22.44bracrss show handle [limit] : show limit (default: 5, max: 15) entries from rss handle; limit can also be in the form a..b, to display a specific range of items
23:22.48elgphew
23:22.51elg-rss watch harleypig
23:22.52braclemme take care of that for you
23:22.59elgok, pig, twitter!
23:23.19harleypignada
23:23.40harleypig-help rss
23:23.40bracmanage RSS feeds: rss types|show|list|watched|add|change|del(ete)|rm|(force)replace|watch|unwatch|rmwatch|rewatch|who watches
23:23.45harleypig-help rss watch
23:23.46bracrss watch handle [url [type]]  [in chan]: watch rss handle for changes (in channel chan); when the other parameters are present, the feed will be created if it doesn't exist yet
23:24.08harleypig-help rss who watches
23:24.08bracrss who watches [handle]]: list all watchers for rss feeds (matching handle)
23:24.18harleypig-rss who watches handle
23:24.18bracno watched feeds matching handle
23:24.22harleypigfeh
23:24.27harleypig-rss who watches harleypig
23:24.27bracharleypig: http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline/5772502.rss (in format: default): watched by #utah
23:24.58elg-rss who watches harleypig
23:24.58bracharleypig: http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline/5772502.rss (in format: default): watched by #utah
23:25.31harleypig-rss show harleypig 3
23:25.31braclemme fetch it...
23:25.32elgwonders what the poll interval is
23:25.33bracusing old data
23:25.33bracChannel : Twitter / harleypig
23:25.33brac2008/11/26 15:48 :: harleypig: @JayceHall happy happy ... the end :> @ http://twitter.com/harleypig/statuses/1025397424
23:25.33brac2008/11/26 11:40 :: harleypig: @speedykel that's right ... Trekkies are *much* more intelligent than Star Wars fans! :D @ http://twitter.com/harleypig/statuses/1025004820
23:25.34brac2008/11/25 17:16 :: harleypig: @speedykel Star Trek is SOOOO much better than Star Wars! :D @ http://twitter.com/harleypig/statuses/1023653885
23:25.37brac::harleypig:: harleypig: Hey #utah! @ http://twitter.com/harleypig/statuses/1025446707
23:25.39brac::harleypig:: harleypig: Let's try this again! YO #UTAH @ http://twitter.com/harleypig/statuses/1025447362
23:25.55harleypighey ... how come it showed 5, not 3?
23:25.59Sarguno.O?
23:26.01elgi think the last two were the watch result
23:26.12elgotherwise they'd be at the top, ya?
23:26.22harleypigoh, stop making sense.
23:28.26elg-rss add openclue http://openclue.org/feed/rss/
23:28.26bracAdded RSS http://openclue.org/feed/rss/ named openclue
23:28.31elg-rss watch openclue
23:28.32bracfine
23:29.30mrpullI don't want to drive all night
23:29.32mrpullbleh
23:29.49elgmrpull: get a good audio book on your mp3 player
23:30.16mrpullI've loaded up some of my favorite npr shows
23:30.26elgis listening to LotR
23:30.41elgthey just got to rivendell
23:30.49mrpullwait wait / all songs considered / this american life
23:30.51harleypigwhat? again?
23:30.53elgthat's something like 10 hours in
23:31.00mrpullyowzers
23:31.04elg:)
23:31.18elgthat'll get you across the country and back at least
23:31.30mrpullplease tell me you aren't listening to a project guttenburg read by a robot version
23:31.32elg(I listen while walking to/from school)
23:31.43elg<PROTECTED>
23:31.52mrpullshame shame
23:32.05elggo to your library then
23:32.11elgsame diff
23:32.26mrpullmakes that weird carrot peeling motion with his fingers that kids do to say shame shame
23:32.56mrpullwonders WTF is that shame shame motion anyway?
23:33.45elghttp://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=373564
23:33.59mrpullLiterally LOL
23:34.31mrpull~help
23:34.32elgi call bull on the whole "friction" thing
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23:38.03harleypighttp://www.dailywav.com/0104/lithiumcredit.wav
23:39.10mrpullturns down the speakers
23:39.22harleypigmrpull: what's wrong with a sexy robot voice reading classics?
23:39.37harleypigthat wav is sfw
23:39.51mrpullsexy robots have better things to do than read you classics
23:41.36mrpulllike making my breakfast or mowing my lawn
23:43.02brac::harleypig:: harleypig: http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=6429 You're welcome. @ http://twitter.com/harleypig/statuses/1025470312
23:45.46SargunI hate DBUS.
23:45.55elgwelcome to the club
23:46.25harleypigIs that anything like DPLANE?
23:46.32harleypigor DTRAIN?
23:46.40harleypigor DAUTOMOBILE?
23:46.45Sargun~lart harleypig
23:46.45ibottakes a rusty axe and swings it violently, taking harleypig's head off
23:46.45harleypighides
23:46.54harleypigtoo late

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