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| 03:12.38 | levi` | I ate too much brownie. |
| 03:21.55 | tensai | levi`: was it a "special" brownie? |
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| 03:30.36 | levi` | Nope, just a regular brownie mix from a box. |
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| 05:20.19 | elg | -chat i'm off |
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| 05:31.52 | Sargun | -chat pants |
| 05:31.53 | brac | pants was |
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| 21:45.50 | elg | -chat now i |
| 21:45.50 | brac | now i just got a few boxes with 2.2 kernels |
| 21:53.14 | Sargun | -chat pants |
| 21:53.14 | brac | pants went |
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| 21:58.29 | goozbach | grub is all fouled up! |
| 21:58.47 | goozbach | wants to cry |
| 22:04.39 | goozbach | who broke my grub? |
| 22:04.46 | Sargun | you did. |
| 22:04.48 | Sargun | You did. |
| 22:04.50 | Sargun | You Did. |
| 22:07.22 | goozbach | prob right. thursday i did a yum update. didnt reboot then |
| 22:08.42 | fozzmoo | goozbach: Welcome back! |
| 22:08.48 | Sargun | I would take a baseball bat to your hard drive |
| 22:08.54 | Sargun | that fixes most grub problems |
| 22:09.04 | fozzmoo | s/hard drive/Sargun/ |
| 22:09.50 | fozzmoo | goozbach: I installed Scalix on a client's mail server on Friday. |
| 22:10.39 | fozzmoo | I thought it would come with a bunch of migration scripts... but not really for mbox files sitting on the server itself. |
| 22:10.54 | fozzmoo | All the migration tools were for migrating mail from another IMAP or Exchange server. |
| 22:11.42 | fozzmoo | So, I started by using kmail (which imports many different mailbox types nicely), but in the end I just wrote a Perl script to slurp through each user's mbox and upload via IMAP. |
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| 23:16.04 | fozzmoo | yeah. |
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| 23:31.10 | goozbach | fozzmoo: scalix vs zimbra... pros, cons? |
| 23:31.41 | fozzmoo | Scalix gives you 10 Premium User (i.e. outlook connector) licenses with the free edition. |
| 23:32.24 | fozzmoo | I think they're both pretty capable, but Zimbra probably has more administrative tools in the GUI. Scalix can do it all, but more has to be done at the CLI with cryptic commands. |
| 23:33.21 | fozzmoo | If they didn't have some people who wanted to use Outlook to do their calendaring, I think I would have recommended Zimbra. |
| 23:34.19 | goozbach | hmmm |
| 23:34.47 | fozzmoo | I dislike both because of their "commercial open source" nature. :) |
| 23:35.14 | goozbach | i need to find a solution for email come the first quarter of next year |
| 23:35.26 | fozzmoo | That is, their documentation is pretty weak and answers to questions are buried in forums/wikis/FAQs. |
| 23:35.36 | fozzmoo | For you, personally, or for your employer? |
| 23:37.07 | goozbach | employer |
| 23:37.22 | fozzmoo | Do they want group scheduling to be part of the solution? |
| 23:37.26 | goozbach | not sure how many outlookers we have |
| 23:37.38 | goozbach | it'd be nice |
| 23:38.28 | fozzmoo | One thing I like about Scalix is that it uses Sendmail (or Postfix) and then defines a scalix mailer in the sendmail.mc file. |
| 23:38.50 | fozzmoo | What's nice about that is that it's trivial to plug in SpamAssassin, ClamAV, greylisting, etc. |
| 23:39.26 | goozbach | i like. does it ship a custom mta or does it modify stock? |
| 23:39.30 | fozzmoo | Of course, none of that is very well documented. I discovered that by looking around myself when it came time to implement anti-spam. |
| 23:39.43 | fozzmoo | it uses the stock. Adds a mailer definition to the m4 files. |
| 23:40.01 | fozzmoo | The Scalix distribution, however, includes their own versions of PostgreSQL and OpenLDAP. |
| 23:40.11 | fozzmoo | I guess they didn't want to mess around with modifying stock for that. |
| 23:40.18 | fozzmoo | Same with Apache Tomcat. |
| 23:40.22 | fozzmoo | They do use the stock Apache. |