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| 00:16.09 | Sargun | sjansen, haha |
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| 00:38.02 | fozzmoo | Looks like XMission is back up |
| 00:38.12 | fozzmoo | ~lart flaky UPSes. |
| 00:38.12 | ibot | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up flaky UPSes. |
| 00:58.07 | ramuloso | with xmission down - there is no kcpw :( |
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| 00:58.51 | Sargun | what FM transmitters have you guys used for your MP3 players? |
| 00:59.08 | Sargun | fozzmoo, yeah, backup power failed to kick in during the brownout |
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| 01:10.27 | elg | hey! |
| 01:10.32 | elg | who's that playing |
| 01:10.33 | elg | hey! |
| 01:10.34 | elg | the guitar |
| 01:10.37 | elg | is it ibot? |
| 01:10.39 | elg | i don't know |
| 01:10.44 | elg | is it levi? |
| 01:10.46 | elg | i don't know |
| 01:11.09 | supaplex | it's your very creative imagination |
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| 01:12.36 | elg | turn it up |
| 01:12.37 | elg | the guitar |
| 01:12.39 | elg | i can't hear |
| 01:12.40 | elg | the guitar |
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| 02:29.40 | supaplex | it's similar to some of the tcpdump expressions. Just look at http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/junos/junos54/swcmdref54/download/real-time.pdf |
| 02:29.48 | supaplex | oops. wrong window :) |
| 02:29.54 | goozbach | anyone looking to buy a sprint treo 755p |
| 02:29.55 | goozbach | ? |
| 02:31.38 | supaplex | why, when I can have the g1? :) |
| 02:40.21 | Sargun | now. |
| 02:40.32 | Sargun | goozbach, anybody looking at buying a cloned 700p? |
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| 03:36.45 | RyanE | Sargun: I've used a cheapo FM transmitter from Costco, but it didn't work that well. |
| 03:37.56 | RyanE | But I'm planning on building one of these: http://mikeyancey.com/FM-Stereo-Broadcaster.php |
| 03:44.11 | jackman | What's the output power? |
| 03:44.24 | jackman | a couple dozen mW? |
| 03:45.22 | levi | I've got a Harman/Kardon Drive+Play. |
| 03:45.36 | levi | Buy.com had a sale on them for $18 or so. |
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| 03:46.19 | levi | The FM transmitter in them isn't great, but the one I got came with the adapter that lets you hook it directly to the antenna wire. |
| 03:46.37 | RyanE | I'm actually building it for my home, I'm planning on using it as an output zone on my Home Automation system. I'm planning on making it portable for car trips, though. :) |
| 03:46.41 | levi | I just need the stupid GM-to-regular antenna cable connectors. |
| 03:46.59 | RyanE | I like Rhapsody but FM would carry further than my Wi-fi, and not have dropouts. |
| 03:47.17 | RyanE | i.e. my Control4 system does Rhapsody, and I can stream it to any zone, why not stream it to FM... :) |
| 03:47.24 | levi | FM transmissions have crappy audio quality, though. :( |
| 03:48.15 | RyanE | This is FM Stereo, supposed to be pretty good. |
| 03:48.15 | jackman | well, the transmission quality is dependant on the transmitter. |
| 03:48.28 | jackman | If you have a crappy setup, you get crappy sound |
| 03:48.34 | jackman | likewise with the receiver |
| 03:49.07 | jackman | Hams get awesome sound on AM still |
| 03:49.48 | jackman | Unfortunately, for most circumstances, it's all about the money. |
| 03:49.49 | RyanE | We'll see. The parts are only going to cost me about the same as the crappy FM car transmitter I got from Costco (along with a few parts I have in the parts bin). |
| 03:50.10 | RyanE | If it doesn't work, or the quality is bad, I'm not out much. |
| 03:55.25 | levi | Maybe it's a cheap FM receiver or something, but I've never heard radio sounding as good in a car as a CD or high-quality mp3. |
| 03:55.56 | levi | Or maybe it's the way the stations process the signal for transmission. |
| 03:57.25 | RyanE | True, of course, I'm planning on mainly using it for Automation announcements and audio while I mow the lawn, so high fidelity may not be a requirement. For quality, I'll listen to local zones. |
| 03:58.24 | levi | I just use an iPod and isolating earbuds for mowing the lawn. :) |
| 03:58.48 | RyanE | Yeah, but again, I don't have Rhapsody content when I play my MP3 player. |
| 03:58.56 | levi | I'm sure the home automation stuff is fun to play with, though. |
| 03:59.15 | levi | I've never got into the Rhapsody/last.fm thing. |
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| 04:09.45 | levi | pokes around his old mp3 archive. |
| 04:09.49 | levi | Heh, Agnes Poetry. |
| 04:10.08 | levi | Anyone else ever go see them play in Provo? |
| 04:15.26 | levi | Haha, ABC, Tears are Not Enough |
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| 05:26.24 | elg | levi: i've seen agnes poetry |
| 05:26.26 | elg | wayyyy back |
| 05:26.29 | elg | when they were new |
| 05:26.51 | elg | they played a dance in my cousin's stake, I was visiting and went with |
| 05:28.24 | tensai | why is my nfs mount so much slower than scp? |
| 05:28.37 | elg | gremlins |
| 05:28.46 | tensai | ~curse gremlins |
| 05:28.46 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, gremlins ! |
| 05:31.06 | tensai | elg: since you got ipv6 working, you can browse my mythtv box now |
| 05:31.11 | tensai | plato.zmonkey.org |
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| 05:36.23 | elg | timeout |
| 05:37.35 | tensai | hmm. firewall problem probably. what's your netblock? |
| 05:38.04 | tensai | 2001:470:d:20f::/64? |
| 05:39.51 | tensai | but that doesn't make sense. I don't see any hits in the firewall DROP rules. |
| 05:39.58 | goozbach | someone avalible to make a phone call? |
| 05:40.06 | goozbach | trying to get my phone to work |
| 05:40.38 | elg | 2001:470:d:20f:217:f2ff:fe51:517b |
| 05:40.45 | elg | so yeah |
| 05:40.56 | elg | goozbach: i could ring ya |
| 05:41.07 | Supaplex_ | hi again. |
| 05:41.16 | elg | if i could remember the name of my softphone |
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| 05:41.34 | elg | number? |
| 05:43.46 | tensai | elg: can you ping6 it? |
| 05:43.52 | elg | nay |
| 05:44.25 | tensai | how about a traceroute6? |
| 05:44.29 | goozbach | thanks elg |
| 05:44.33 | goozbach | looking good by the way |
| 05:44.41 | elg | ~fix goozbach |
| 05:44.42 | ibot | ACTION opens the hood of goozbach , looks inside and says "that'll be 500 dollars." |
| 05:46.17 | tensai | elg: hmm. now I can't get to kame.net. something is wrong on my side. |
| 05:46.32 | levi | Speaking of cell phones... |
| 05:46.46 | levi | my cell phone that went through the wash still works fine now that it's dry. |
| 05:47.34 | levi | listens to The Sounds. |
| 05:47.59 | elg | tensai if you have a route on your router that looks like this, it's from the devil himself and is the cause of your misery: |
| 05:48.16 | elg | unreachable default dev lo proto none metric -1 error -128 |
| 05:48.25 | tensai | no, nothing like that |
| 05:48.27 | elg | (from ip -6 route) |
| 05:48.31 | tensai | I've got a default via dev he-ipv6 |
| 05:48.38 | elg | that was my problem |
| 05:48.47 | elg | i still don't know what causes it and it comes back after reboot |
| 05:49.03 | elg | which isn't too often, but when you have a 4 year old discovering the magic of circuit breakers... |
| 05:50.55 | levi | Ahh, fun. :) |
| 05:51.38 | tensai | I was excited to find how to disable the power and reboot buttons on my myth box |
| 05:52.15 | elg | i actually have a ups |
| 05:52.39 | levi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjY4Wj_-Zec |
| 05:52.40 | elg | my wife called, we tried to troubleshoot why her flipping the breaker back didn't restore power to the madly beeping ups that was driving her nuts |
| 05:52.51 | elg | and the screaming baby wanting to be fed |
| 05:52.55 | elg | and... |
| 05:53.18 | elg | yeah so the ups ran out and it turned out she was flipping the breaker the wrong way - she was turning it (and every other circuit) off instead of back on |
| 05:54.15 | levi | Ow. :) |
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| 05:58.59 | tensai | elg, elg. I found the fix for your problem! |
| 06:00.40 | tensai | and I fixed my problem in the process |
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| 06:01.29 | tensai | ~onjoin elg elg: tensai fixed ipv6 |
| 06:01.29 | ibot | ok, tensai |
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| 06:13.16 | griffeymac | Hi folks! |
| 06:15.27 | levi | Hi. |
| 06:15.31 | levi | What's up? |
| 06:15.47 | Sargun | not much |
| 06:15.49 | Sargun | yourself? |
| 06:16.02 | Sargun | trying to figure out the arguments to sys_mmap2 |
| 06:36.54 | levi | I guess griffeymac didn't really want to talk. |
| 06:43.23 | Sargun | I feel really bad for Y! |
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| 07:12.27 | levi | For Y? |
| 07:12.50 | Sargun | Yahoo |
| 07:17.05 | levi | Oh. |
| 08:07.29 | levi | This is an excellent article: http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/national-news/portfolio/2008/11/11/The-End-of-Wall-Streets-Boom?tid=true |
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| 14:32.35 | elg | chainmail on a blog disguised as "meme" is still chainmail |
| 14:37.30 | goozbach | elg: I thought that facebook/myspace had firewalls which prevented things like the "book meme" from escaping |
| 14:37.51 | elg | apparently broken |
| 14:40.29 | goozbach | no doubt |
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| 15:01.42 | elg | here's an interesting question http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/ballot-design-quiz.html |
| 15:01.55 | tensai | elg: I removed my default route and immediately I got that unreachable route you had |
| 15:01.59 | elg | scan a few of the comments which make good arguments for each one being best or worse (well, except A) |
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| 15:02.06 | tensai | when I added the default route back, the unreachable route disappeared |
| 15:02.21 | elg | that's what happens here too |
| 15:02.29 | elg | something i have is adding the unreachable route after i set up ipv6 |
| 15:02.43 | elg | i just have to remove and re-add the default route and it goes away |
| 15:02.51 | elg | i think it's the devil himself |
| 15:02.54 | elg | or maybe emcn |
| 15:02.55 | FranciscoDAnconi | Are u guys sysadmins? |
| 15:03.06 | elg | ~lart emcnabb |
| 15:03.06 | ibot | slams emcnabb against a large cement Tux |
| 15:04.26 | tensai | so you have the unreachable and a default? |
| 15:05.18 | elg | yes |
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| 15:37.56 | tensai | ~onjoin -elg |
| 15:37.56 | ibot | ok, tensai |
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| 15:54.29 | tensai | Jayce^: my co-op is a full service store. it's small but they have some of everything. |
| 15:54.36 | tensai | mostly I'm in it for the veggies though |
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| 16:03.58 | Jayce^ | tensai, awesome, I've been looking around for a good one here to join |
| 16:04.26 | Jayce^ | did pretty good on our veggies here on our own, but could really use more, and more variety |
| 16:04.38 | Jayce^ | my lettuce, peas, and carrots were worthless this year |
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| 16:04.55 | tensai | that was pretty much all I got this year |
| 16:05.05 | Jayce^ | heh |
| 16:05.14 | tensai | and some half developed corn stalks for decoration |
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| 16:38.10 | tensai | redbeard2: http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2008/11/new-york-city-11th-annual-chocolate-show.html |
| 16:38.33 | tensai | redbeard2: we should go next year. mmmmmm |
| 16:39.23 | redbeard2 | tensai: that would rock |
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| 16:44.45 | levi | http://www.partiallyclips.com/index.php?id=1580&c=1#strip |
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| 17:35.53 | harleypig | y'know ... I can understand how a man might not feel enough attachment to his children to stick around ... |
| 17:36.12 | harleypig | but how can a woman who has grown them in her just abandon her children?! |
| 17:37.04 | Sargun | She's female |
| 17:37.08 | Sargun | she's evil.. |
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| 17:54.10 | tensai | is surprised at how often he uses uuencode |
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| 18:04.35 | harleypig | Where's brac? |
| 18:04.58 | mrklaw | can anyone recommend a company that can supply squid support to a large company here in Utah? |
| 18:05.25 | harleypig | Why would the Navy be wanting support in Utah? |
| 18:05.41 | mrklaw | we are looking at implementing squid for reverse proxy/site acceleration |
| 18:05.46 | mrklaw | not the navy ;) |
| 18:06.08 | Sargun_Screen | why do you need support? |
| 18:06.08 | harleypig | heh |
| 18:06.23 | mrklaw | company policies |
| 18:07.38 | mrklaw | we don't currently use a lot of FOSS right now but are looking to change that for some apps |
| 18:08.03 | Sargun_Screen | just pull out a redhat support contract |
| 18:08.35 | mrklaw | we currently use SLES for our servers |
| 18:09.03 | mrklaw | should I look at support from Novell, or do redhat anyway? |
| 18:09.15 | unum | Novell should already support it as part of the contract |
| 18:09.22 | unum | assuming you're running it on SLUS |
| 18:09.26 | unum | SLES |
| 18:10.44 | mrklaw | cool, thanks. I'll ask our Linux admins what kind of support contract we have and if we can include Squid in that. |
| 18:11.03 | elg | by support do you mean someone to set it up, make it work, and fix it when it starts blocking the CEOs favorite soft porn? |
| 18:19.39 | Sargun_Screen | uhm.. alternatively you can hire one of the thousands of contractors |
| 18:19.50 | Sargun_Screen | and keep them on retainer |
| 18:20.21 | mrklaw | We are mainly just looking for a security blanket for if we have problems. Maybe someone to bounce questions off of when setting it up. |
| 18:24.40 | mrklaw | I've never hired an independent contractor. Is there a resource for finding a good match? |
| 18:25.36 | Sargun_Screen | keep me on retainer. ;-P |
| 18:25.50 | Sargun_Screen | How large is your company? |
| 18:27.47 | Sargun_Screen | mrklaw: regarding foss, the best person to keep on retainer is usually the project maintainer. |
| 18:29.19 | Supap|ex | sorry Sargun, we've removed your retainer and put you on braces instead. |
| 18:29.50 | mrklaw | It's pretty big. We get a lot of internet traffic on weekends. Especially at the beginning of April and October :) |
| 18:29.51 | Sargun_Screen | Supap|ex: heh... |
| 18:30.10 | Sargun_Screen | tax processor? |
| 18:31.17 | Sargun_Screen | I would say look for a company that provides squid support (maybe off the squid homepage?) |
| 18:31.25 | elg | mrklaw: OSS lists like plug and sllug are a good place to look |
| 18:31.49 | Sargun_Screen | or contact the maintainer and see if they know anyone who supports it |
| 18:32.54 | mrklaw | Yeah, there was a huge list on the squid-cache.org website, but no one local. I'm hoping to go to the plug meeting tonight so maybe I'll ask around there. |
| 18:35.33 | unum | mrklaw: would this be the company that randsom love now works for |
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| 18:36.22 | mrklaw | I don't know where Ransom Love works. |
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| 18:37.30 | mrklaw | oh, maybe he does work here |
| 18:37.42 | mrklaw | I haven't met him though. |
| 18:38.41 | mrklaw | we have a pretty huge IT dept. |
| 18:41.21 | elg | used to work there, on the then-about-to-be-new website |
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| 19:00.17 | Sargun_Screen | why local? |
| 19:00.56 | mrklaw | It's doesn't have to be local. I just wanted to look local first. |
| 19:01.55 | mrklaw | I don't have a problem contracting with visolve or redhat, but I wanted to support the local linux scene first if I could |
| 19:05.31 | Sargun_Screen | why?it's unlikely the best support will be local |
| 19:05.37 | neybar | does anyone know how to do a custom ordering when using Order By with postgresl? Asc and Desc aren't what I want. |
| 19:05.42 | Sargun_Screen | there is no reason to go local |
| 19:13.13 | jshipley | neybar: what are you trying to do? |
| 19:13.13 | tensai | well now that's just baloney. of course there are reasons to go local. whether they're good reasons for your specific situation is something you have to decide. |
| 19:14.15 | tensai | order by most awesome; |
| 19:14.25 | neybar | I have a status field ('open', 'closed', 'cancelled') etc. I want to order by that field, but the order isn't alphabetical. It should be open, closed, cancelled etc. A weighted ordering I guess |
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| 19:28.25 | Sargun_Screen | neybar: please tell me you aren't putting those in as strings? |
| 19:30.40 | neybar | yes |
| 19:31.31 | Sargun_Screen | have you ever heard of normalization |
| 19:31.41 | neybar | have you ever heard of usibility? |
| 19:31.51 | Sargun_Screen | the whole point of that isn't to use strings. |
| 19:31.52 | neybar | normalization is great, but sometimes it is too much. |
| 19:31.55 | Sargun_Screen | usability |
| 19:32.15 | Sargun_Screen | just join the table. |
| 19:32.57 | Sargun_Screen | the quick and dirty solution to your problem involves making a join table |
| 19:33.08 | Sargun_Screen | and then sorting based on that |
| 19:33.13 | neybar | I appreciate being pointed out the finer points of normalization, but really I was just looking for help on the ordering clause. As it turns out I found the CASE works just fine. |
| 19:33.24 | harleypig | neybar: if that field is enumerated then an order by is based on the position, not the alphabetization |
| 19:36.32 | supaplex | can't we all just use RT? |
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| 19:38.59 | findlay | hello |
| 19:39.07 | neybar | I probably should move the status out into another table, but it really wouldn't solve the problem. What if I decide to order the table not using the values that I decided on when I built the table? |
| 19:41.25 | tensai | in the status table, add a column for the ordering |
| 19:41.53 | mrpull | one of the better graphjam graphs: http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/population.gif |
| 19:41.54 | neybar | right, but that only addresses what I hope is going to be the most common ordering. |
| 19:46.42 | tensai | you're allowing it to be sorted multiple ways then? |
| 19:49.20 | supadupa | <3's #postgres |
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| 19:51.01 | elg | i don't think postgres is relevant to how much i love milk caramels |
| 19:52.27 | supadupa | so it's not that relational for you eh? |
| 19:52.42 | elg | no, caramel love is absolute |
| 19:53.59 | unum | in perl can you do this substr($_,3,10)=$temp; to change the value of the string for that range |
| 19:54.30 | unum | nm |
| 19:58.01 | unum | lets say you wanted to remove all the digets from a certain section of string using perl |
| 19:58.05 | unum | what would you do |
| 20:03.38 | unum | I'm trying substr($_,3,10)=s/\D//g |
| 20:03.46 | unum | and am not getting the results I expect |
| 20:06.45 | unum | ah I forgot the ~ |
| 20:10.26 | unum | now how would I do that if I wanted to put a space at the end for each \D that I replaced |
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| 21:19.12 | tensai | unum: s/(\D)/$1 / |
| 21:20.10 | tensai | wait, maybe I don't understand what you're asking |
| 21:20.46 | elg | too late |
| 21:20.47 | elg | you fail |
| 21:20.54 | elg | or succeed. |
| 21:20.58 | elg | how should I know |
| 21:21.53 | unum | tensai: I had a column of 10 spaces in a text file |
| 21:22.09 | unum | they were phone numbers some with dashes some with out |
| 21:22.12 | jsmith-teaching | chuckles at http://xkcd.com/327/ |
| 21:22.16 | unum | i wanted to make them all with out dashes |
| 21:22.23 | unum | and left justified |
| 21:22.48 | unum | jsmith-teaching: I think I was in your class the day that first ran |
| 21:23.34 | harleypig | unum: perl? |
| 21:23.57 | unum | harleypig: ya. i ended up using three lines instead of one |
| 21:24.21 | harleypig | did you want *only* digits? |
| 21:24.37 | unum | ya |
| 21:24.59 | harleypig | s/\D//g |
| 21:25.12 | harleypig | $phone =~ s/\D//g |
| 21:25.18 | unum | that doesn't left justify |
| 21:25.44 | unum | I was doing substr($_,3,10)=~s/\D//g; |
| 21:25.51 | harleypig | You want the number right space padded to a specific string length? |
| 21:26.03 | unum | yes |
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| 21:26.16 | harleypig | Are some phone numbers sans area code/ |
| 21:26.17 | harleypig | ? |
| 21:26.56 | unum | the first 3 cols are actually the areacode. the problem was some were missing the number all together |
| 21:29.11 | unum | so I guess it would have worked fine to move everything to be 7 columns weather there was a number there or not |
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| 21:30.07 | harleypig | unum: you can't easily do that with a regex (though you can if you willing to use some advanced stuff. |
| 21:30.07 | harleypig | This would be easier though |
| 21:30.07 | harleypig | $phone =~ s/\D//g ; printf '%-10s', $phone; |
| 21:32.59 | unum | that's basically what I did |
| 21:33.26 | harleypig | oh. where'd the third line come in? |
| 21:34.17 | unum | I needed to assign it back to the substr |
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| 21:36.10 | fozzmoo | Okay- ISP question... |
| 21:36.17 | harleypig | oh |
| 21:36.22 | fozzmoo | is XO or MCI considered top-tier backbone? |
| 21:37.42 | fungus | MCI yes, XO ... not sure |
| 21:39.07 | fungus | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tier_1_network#List_of_Tier_1_IPv4_ISPs |
| 21:39.25 | fozzmoo | Cool. thx |
| 21:40.48 | fungus | FYI, MCI got sucked up by Verizon a while ago. |
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| 21:41.08 | JoshH | xo is generally considered a tier 1 |
| 21:42.24 | fungus | While XO's tier1 status is debated in some venues, they are an awesome choice of provider. |
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| 21:43.19 | mecworks | hm. network issues apparently. |
| 21:43.41 | mecworks | I'm having issues accessing some parts of the net. amazon is unreachable. |
| 21:43.50 | mecworks | Can anyone access http://www.mecworks.com ? |
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| 21:44.20 | fozzmoo | can get to mecworks. |
| 21:44.26 | fungus | can too |
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| 21:47.27 | mecworks | great. That's good to know. Must be something between Novell and home then. |
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| 22:08.18 | tensai | elg: I'm just musing about your fftw post here. I don't much understand fft, so I may be way off base. |
| 22:08.28 | tensai | elg: why doesn't fftw ship with that wisdom file pre-computed? |
| 22:08.43 | elg | it's a machine-specific optimization |
| 22:09.05 | elg | which i mentioned in my first draft of that post which i closed with my trigger-happy tab-closing finger |
| 22:12.13 | tensai | what is it based on? how is it machine specific? |
| 22:13.43 | elg | no clue |
| 22:14.09 | elg | they say it's machine specific, but in practice you can use wisdom from the same architecture with generally good results |
| 22:14.31 | elg | i imagine there's a number of factors at play - cpu kind, features, maybe memory, bus speeds, who knows |
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| 22:16.48 | levi | Heh. A woman in Brazil died this week when, while riding in a hearse during a traffic accident, her husband's coffin slammed into the back of her neck. |
| 22:16.49 | tensai | is there any chance I will ever use these wisdoms? |
| 22:16.57 | sjansen | ~praise Firefox |
| 22:16.58 | ibot | All hail Firefox! |
| 22:17.12 | tensai | ~slander firefox |
| 22:17.18 | sjansen | ~punish tensai |
| 22:17.18 | ibot | ACTION forces tensai to install and use Windows |
| 22:17.38 | eggyknap | ponders "cruel and unusual ~punish-ments" |
| 22:17.47 | sjansen | Web development sucks. But at least it doesn't suck as much as it used to. And firefox deserves most of the credit. |
| 22:18.51 | sjansen | I've been avoiding a Web project at work, but I can't any longer. So I've spent the afternoon filling my toolbelt. |
| 22:19.17 | tensai | does not your belly fill your toolbelt? |
| 22:19.34 | sjansen | FF + Web Developer Addon + Dom Inspector Addon + HTML Validator Addon |
| 22:22.41 | supadupa | what's wrong with you? No snacks and drinks? |
| 22:22.50 | supadupa | ;) |
| 22:23.32 | elg | tensai: there is a substantial chance you may |
| 22:24.11 | elg | i don't KNOW of any off the top of my head, but I'd BET many consumer apps like mplayer, ffmpeg, mythtv, lame, ogg vorbis, etc. etc. use fftw |
| 22:24.29 | elg | any of them would automatically benefit from an /etc/fftw/wisdom file |
| 22:24.38 | elg | ... if you can generate a canonical one that actually works |
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| 22:25.11 | elg | if you can't get a canonical set, it' sunlikely you'll hit on just the right combination of sizes |
| 22:25.14 | elg | doing it manually |
| 22:25.27 | elg | (unless you write a script that does what the manpage says canonical would do...) |
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| 22:26.30 | elg | sjansen: don't forget firebug |
| 22:26.41 | elg | levi: i guess he didn't want to wait for her |
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| 22:26.50 | sjansen | Thankfully I haven't had to mess with AJAX much. |
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| 22:27.07 | elg | firebug is still very useful for css and html inspection |
| 22:27.13 | sjansen | Javascript is actually a pretty decent language, but there's no escaping the fact your stuck in a browser. |
| 22:27.55 | sjansen | elg: Oh? |
| 22:28.03 | elg | yup |
| 22:28.12 | elg | i've used it for that much more than actually doing any javascript stuff |
| 22:28.31 | elg | i know some of the same stuff is available in the web dev toolbar, but it's easier to get to in firebug |
| 22:29.27 | elg | it'll show you how css cascades, and what stuff is overridden, etc. |
| 22:29.57 | elg | click on the html div tag (for example) and it'll highlight the div in the rendered output |
| 22:30.09 | elg | and you can hack the html/css in-place |
| 22:30.20 | elg | then when you get the effect you want you can do it in your actual file/app |
| 22:32.07 | tensai | elg: if I try to uninstall fftw3, apt threatens to remove amarok, myth, rosegarden and a few other odds and ends |
| 22:32.20 | elg | there ya go |
| 22:32.35 | tensai | well then, I will carry on |
| 22:33.06 | elg | i'd be interested to know if fftw-wisdom generates usable canonical wisdom on your box. i wonder if it might be something mac-specific |
| 22:33.23 | elg | or if it silently broke some time ago and nobody noticed |
| 22:33.29 | tensai | how would I know? |
| 22:34.16 | elg | run it, wait a few hours, and then fftw-wisdom -w your_generated_wisdom_file |
| 22:34.38 | elg | if it complains it couldn't read it, it didn't work. if it spits out a bunch of lisp-like code, it did work |
| 22:35.35 | tensai | I get lisp-like mumbo jumbo |
| 22:35.45 | tensai | instead of waiting a few hours, I used -t |
| 22:36.11 | elg | well, some subset(s) work fine |
| 22:36.39 | elg | in fact I took the generated file and found if I cut out the right half of it then it loaded fine |
| 22:37.08 | elg | but it's not a syntax problem. the culprit lines look syntactically fine but have no meaning to me |
| 22:38.26 | tensai | I'll let you know in a few hours then |
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| 23:11.57 | sjansen | http://www.redbox.com/Titles/AvailableTitles.aspx#Detail&page=1&sort=1&titleId=2031&pageSize=10&genreId=-1 <--- Act now to reserve your copy! |
| 23:12.26 | mrpull | sjansen: holy geeze... that show was on CMT last weekend |
| 23:12.41 | mrpull | sjansen: It was like a trainwreck. I had to keep watching. |
| 23:18.20 | sjansen | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Transparent.gif |
| 23:18.51 | mrpull | sjansen: "No higher resolution available" |
| 23:18.53 | mrpull | niiiice |
