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| 01:44.41 | levi | Geez, so many people on reddit defending the people who pumped tons of fuel that was unintentionally marked at $0.59 in the pump meter. |
| 01:45.07 | levi | When everyone else is selling for $3.59, you can be pretty sure that $0.59 is an error. |
| 01:46.01 | Reilithion | People are selfish. They /want/ cheap gas. So when they see something like that they set reason aside and assume, "Hey! A sale!" |
| 01:49.36 | levi | No, they assume, "Hey, a mistake! I'm going to take advantage of it!" |
| 01:51.17 | levi | And then there are people on reddit saying, "There's nothing ethically/morally wrong with that! Go ahead and screw the guy who made the mistake!" |
| 01:52.33 | Reilithion | I won't attempt to justify their actions. But I do think you're oversimplifying the psychology of the phenomenon. |
| 01:55.43 | levi | So, if you came across a gas station that charged $3 less than the going rate at the pump, you would assume a sale rather than an error? |
| 01:56.04 | levi | The rate certainly wasn't posted on a sign or anything. |
| 01:56.13 | levi | Might have even had the correct price posted on a sign. |
| 01:58.04 | Reilithion | You are clearly incensed about this event. |
| 02:00.07 | levi | The fact that people took advantage of the error is sad, but understandable. The fact that other people are defending the actions of the people taking advantage of the error as moral and ethical makes me mad. |
| 02:01.44 | Reilithion | Why? |
| 02:04.32 | levi | Because I feel strongly that knowingly taking advantage of another person's error to their detriment is morally wrong. |
| 02:07.08 | Reilithion | *nods* I do not disagree. |
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| 03:00.10 | lakshmi-treo | hi :( |
| 03:00.40 | lakshmi-treo | fozzmoo hey |
| 03:04.09 | levi | Man, XP is so much faster on this laptop than Vista. |
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| 03:05.05 | levi | I think I'm going to blow away the Vista partition. |
| 03:05.05 | lakshmi-treo | how do you tell your rents you got a ticket |
| 03:05.24 | levi | You say, "Uh, I got a ticket." |
| 03:06.23 | tensai | "I got you a present!" |
| 03:07.35 | lakshmi-treo | my rents will kill me |
| 03:08.38 | levi | I doubt that! |
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| 03:13.05 | synic | "I was totally trying to evade some hooligans" |
| 03:13.52 | lakshmi-treo | ya my rents are gunna kill me |
| 03:14.09 | lakshmi-treo | how do start that convo |
| 03:14.48 | synic | hooligans man |
| 03:15.15 | lakshmi-treo | ya cause when I'm freaking out that's great right? |
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| 03:21.01 | elg | -chat ~onjoin elg |
| 03:21.02 | brac | ~onjoin elg <action>cowers in fear |
| 03:21.02 | ibot | brac: ok |
| 03:26.56 | levi | Hi, elg. |
| 03:27.10 | elg | hiho |
| 03:27.47 | elg | turned out to be the starter and the battery both |
| 03:27.59 | elg | well, not really. but the battery tested bad so i replaced it too |
| 03:28.43 | elg | alas, the starter had a hard-to-reach bolt that was stuck so I had to take it in and pay someone with cooler tools (a lift and air wrench) to switch out the starters |
| 03:28.55 | levi | Ah. Well, all's well that ends well, right? |
| 03:28.56 | elg | but not before i bruised my hand up pretty good |
| 03:28.58 | elg | yeah |
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| 03:29.09 | levi | I've got air tools, but no lift. |
| 03:29.22 | elg | i could have done it with an air ratchet |
| 03:29.29 | levi | I love air tools. |
| 03:29.35 | elg | i had a ratchet on it, but i just didn't have enough leverage |
| 03:29.49 | levi | Air ratchets are sometimes not torquey enough to undo stuck bolts. |
| 03:29.52 | lakshmi-treo | I love not getting a ticket |
| 03:30.01 | elg | and i didn't have the right metric size at first, so I tried to use an english size, and that's how i banged up my hand :-p |
| 03:30.33 | levi | Yeah, that's a recipe for banged up knuckles and rounded-off nuts. |
| 03:31.05 | elg | didn't help that i didn't know what size the nut was. but being a honda i should have guessed it'd be metric |
| 03:35.04 | levi | Indeed. |
| 03:38.24 | levi | The only trouble with air tools is their size when trying to use them in tight quarters. |
| 03:45.41 | elg | wow, $700k home here blew up |
| 03:45.52 | Sargun_Screen | just exploded? |
| 03:45.56 | elg | "A house exploded in Las Cruces Thursday morning, leaving nothing left but a hole in the ground and lots of questions. " |
| 03:46.04 | Sargun_Screen | why does $700k matter? |
| 03:46.05 | elg | http://www.kdbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=9231541&nav=menu608_2 |
| 03:46.34 | Sargun_Screen | A lot of odd things happen here, we usually don't have houses asplode though |
| 03:47.32 | elg | mccain visits here tomorrow |
| 03:47.42 | elg | and hillary |
| 03:48.01 | levi | I assume they're not visiting *together*. :) |
| 03:48.08 | levi | That would probably be enough to make houses explode. |
| 03:48.35 | elg | :) |
| 03:48.40 | elg | about 30 miles apart |
| 03:48.54 | elg | and obama will be in albq |
| 03:49.14 | elg | we've already had biden here, and palin in roswell |
| 03:49.34 | levi | Heh, Palin in Roswell. |
| 03:51.38 | elg | :-) |
| 03:52.25 | levi | I wonder if she made any alien jokes. |
| 03:56.09 | elg | you betcha |
| 04:04.04 | lakshmi-treo | what are you watching |
| 04:04.55 | levi | Man, I am amazed at how much faster XP is than Vista after having used Vista on this laptop for a while. |
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| 04:12.32 | Supaplex1 | greetings |
| 04:52.34 | Reilithion | What's a good keyboard to have for a Linux machine? |
| 05:14.40 | levi | Reilithion: One with keys on it? |
| 05:15.17 | fozzmoo | Reilithion: It really depends on what you're going to do, I think. |
| 05:15.52 | fozzmoo | Some people like very small, "slim" keyboards (I love them) |
| 05:16.04 | fozzmoo | Other people have to have a number keypad and tons of "multimedia" keys |
| 05:16.13 | Reilithion | *shrugs* I don't have anything special really in mind. But I notice that support for special keys varies widely, and I hate the "Windows" key. |
| 05:16.29 | Reilithion | I kinda wish they still made Space Cadet keyboards. |
| 05:16.38 | Reilithion | In the USB variety. |
| 05:16.45 | fozzmoo | If you want instant support for special keys, get a brand name keyboard like Logitech or Microsoft. |
| 05:16.59 | fozzmoo | A lot of those keyboards are supported by key mappings in Linux. |
| 05:17.12 | fozzmoo | Otherwise, it's not that hard to create your own key mappings with xmodmap. |
| 05:17.32 | levi | Anyone know anything about Ken Peay? |
| 05:18.01 | fozzmoo | Nope. Looks like he's running for office. |
| 05:18.08 | Reilithion | Nothing whatsoever. |
| 05:18.11 | levi | Indeed, which is why I ask. |
| 05:18.14 | lakshmi | hi fozzmoo |
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| 05:18.17 | lakshmi | how are you |
| 05:18.45 | fozzmoo | lakshmi: Okay. |
| 05:18.53 | lakshmi | that's good |
| 05:18.57 | fozzmoo | levi: Is he affiliated with a party? It doesn't seem to be obvious on his site. |
| 05:19.07 | levi | fozzmoo: Yes, he's a Democrat. |
| 05:19.19 | fozzmoo | Must not be proud of it or something. |
| 05:20.14 | fozzmoo | I found out one of my old buddies from my youth is running for the SL County Council. |
| 05:20.36 | fozzmoo | His name is Roger Harding. |
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| 05:24.16 | levi | I'm just trying to figure out how I'm going to vote in the non-Presidential races. |
| 05:26.43 | levi | Michael J. Barron must not really want to get any votes. |
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| 05:34.58 | levi | Anyone have an opinion on the Attorney General race? |
| 05:47.41 | levi | Bob Springmeyer, WTF is up with the bow tie? |
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| 22:21.20 | ibot | tensai: ok |