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01:33.32sjansen~rlart
01:33.33ibotacting on orders from an unspecified client drags synic into court suing for $200 million
01:33.50synicwell I never!
01:33.52sjansenibot: You'd better split the settlement with me!
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02:19.28tensai-lart elg
02:19.29bracpokes elg with a rusty nail
02:20.15elghas a nasty toothache that comes and goes. oddly, it seems to come and go with sinus mucus - exacerbated by weather (pressure change) etc.
02:20.24elgturns out sinusitis can cause toothache-like pain
02:20.33elgwhodathunk
02:20.42elgthey also say tensai can cause toothaches
02:23.15tensailies I tell ya
02:26.01tensaihttp://crapo.senate.gov/contact/email.cfm
02:26.10tensaiwhat's the captcha displayed?
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02:44.38tensainice. one of my senators has a podcast.
02:44.51tensailuckily it's not the one who has anonymous sex in airport bathrooms.
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05:09.13levibacks up photos.
05:12.05Supaplexturns off the warning beeps
05:12.53leviI apparently took a lot of photos.
05:13.47SupaplexI had fun hosing gallery2 with my last batch. :p  I had to break it into smaller uploads.
05:14.44leviI've got 2 DVDs full of photos from the last few years so far.
06:07.54leviHrm, I need to merge a bunch of directories with partially-overlapping contents.
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07:15.09Supaplexany xen fans awake?  I'd like to see a sample configuration to boot (as close to) linux off an install cd (2.4.9 for centos3 without xen support to be exact)
07:32.47Sargunuhm.
07:32.53Sargunits interesting
07:37.37Supaplexhttp://mediakey.dk/~cc/howto-install-windows-xp-vista-on-xen/ jogs my memory.
07:55.34Supaplexstrange...
07:55.41Supaplexsmells dhcp at work ...
08:05.06Supaplexfirst I review ifconfig eth0, and it has a 66. address.  Then I ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 up   and after review, ifconfig says it has a 10. address.  It took another ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 up   to make it stick. odd..
08:24.46Supaplexheck yeaw! it works!
11:44.27Tenelevi: rsync?
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14:19.02tensai-chat ~onjoin elg
14:19.02brac~onjoin elg my sister
14:19.02ibotbrac: ok
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14:39.03tensairedbeard2: what's with all the food related posts? did you start eating again?
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14:39.53fozzmooJayce^: http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/varv10212008a.jpg
14:39.58tensaiJayce^: how many pockets do you have?!?
14:42.03redbeard2tensai: weird, huh?
14:42.30tensairedbeard2: indeed, but nice too
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14:58.40Jayce^tensai, :)  Best thing about winter is I can wear jackets, giving me more pockets
14:58.50Jayce^really wants to get some 5.11 pants though.. even more
14:59.04Jayce^fozzmoo, that's about what I thought when I read that part of his speech
14:59.34Jayce^and you wonder why Biden hasn't held a press conference or qa for over a month (yet palin get's ripped for being unaccessible)
14:59.48fozzmoo(and dumb)
15:02.02unumbiden has been meeting with the press
15:02.09unumhe's been on leno a couple of times
15:02.12unumand other places
15:02.19unumit's just not big news because he does it all the time
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15:12.21Jayce^biden hasn't had an open conference in a month
15:12.35Jayce^exactly what they keep saying palin is snubbing..
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15:26.31elgmy brother
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16:31.05*** topic/#utah by sjansen -> http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | Help Microsoft fight piracy: install Linux.
17:25.26harleypigI know one can use @variables in mysql 5, but does anyone know how to use them with the perl dbi?
17:31.04Supaplexxen is a pill. installed fine with hvmloader, but doesn't boot now. works with qemu. centos2 http://li.daxal.com/~supaplex/gnu/x/xen/1/ has screen shots and configs
17:34.30sjansenSupaplex: Huh?
17:35.28Supaplexsjansen: I installed centos2 w/o issue in xen (hvm). but not that it's installed, it hangs on boot
17:36.49sjansenIntel CPU?
17:36.55Supaplexamd
17:37.06Supaplexmodel name      : AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual Core Processor BE-2400
17:42.17Sargun_Screenii
17:42.59Sargun_Screenintel is :-)
17:43.07Sargun_Screen»
17:44.26Sargun_Screen∞
17:44.26sjansenActually, AMD SVM has some real advantages over Intel VMX.
17:44.27Sargun_Screen§
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17:44.27Sargun_Screensjansen: nehalem i7 fixes that
17:46.08sjansenAre you sure? Last I heard, Nehalem didn't add proper real mode support.
17:50.56Sargun_Screenugh i thougght they added that
17:52.45Supaplex~typolart Sargun_Screen
17:59.36Sargun_Screendie
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18:56.08TeneHey, waitasec, isn't goozbach in Atlanta?
18:56.49goozbachTene: yes
18:56.52goozbachyes I am
18:56.54goozbachare you here?
18:57.08Tenegoozbach: I'm teaching an OU120 here.
18:58.04goozbachwherebouts exactly?
18:58.26goozbachmicrotech in alpharetta, onsite downtown, ...
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19:01.46bonez45how do I change the file linking...? I went to a site where they have all documents stored as .asp files.. I couldn't click on the file and open directly BUT if i went there.. and downloaded and then open OpenOffice' Writer and then from there open the d/l'd file, it opens.. how do I change the system link so it will do this automagically?
19:02.47Teneon peachtree right near @85
19:03.16Tenebuckhead
19:06.49Tenegoozbach: you going to be around this week?
19:08.14goozbachpeachtree, in buckhead
19:08.20goozbachnear 85 or 400?
19:08.36goozbachI've got a brother in town this week, so probally not
19:13.18Tene400
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19:57.59elgwhoa. am I just dense or does this sound way too hard for these poor freshmen?
19:57.59elghttp://pastie.org/297449
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20:08.45jshipley?? An array is considered an advanced structure?
20:09.39jsmithelg: Too hard?  Bah...
20:09.50jsmithcomplains about the kids these days
20:11.43unumwhat language is that supposed to be done in?
20:11.48jshipleyJava
20:12.18unumthat explains why it looked like a bunch of jibberish to me
20:14.06unumecho array_reverse($arg[0]);
20:14.08unumtada
20:14.09RyanECruel and Inhuman punishment.
20:14.13RyanEJava.
20:14.38jshipleyyou could reverse the numbers using simple arithmetic (1234 = 1*10^0 + 2*10^1 + 3*10^2 + 4*10^3), and then just output the number
20:14.58unumI have no idea what a scanner class is
20:15.17unums/a/the
20:15.22jshipleyyou'd have to do some output formatting in the case of 370 -> 073 to maintain the 0
20:15.41jshipleyScanner, I believe, just reads from a file (eg stdin)
20:18.52elgwell that arrays are considered advanced at this point gives you an idea of the current skill level
20:19.22elgunum: but that's a string. she wants them to do it without making a string (they do the same thing with strings, which I don't consider too hard, in another part of this assignment)
20:19.30RyanEscary.
20:20.39elgand of course, if one ever had the task of reversing a number in the real world, one would use a string and the provided methods for reversing them.
20:21.13jshipleyRight, I'd still like to see somebody turn in a solution using a red-black tree to complete this assignment
20:21.20unumint x;for(x=number;x%10;x--);for(int y=x;x>0;x=x/10){cout<<number/x;number-=(number/x)*x;}
20:21.51unumI should start doing things from the euler project
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20:23.08jshipleyThey get hard pretty fast... I've completed 26
20:24.19unumhow my solution so doesn't work
20:24.20elghere's what she says she wants
20:24.21elg<PROTECTED>
20:24.21elg<PROTECTED>
20:24.22elg<PROTECTED>
20:24.22elg<PROTECTED>
20:24.36jshipleyLooks like there are 213 of them now
20:25.12jshipleyelg: The problem description says "using a for loop", so
20:25.27jshipleyfor ( ; number > 0 ; ) {
20:25.38jshipley...
20:25.42jshipley} // end for
20:25.44jshipley:)
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20:25.50unumoh ya that works
20:25.56unumI was making it way to hard
20:27.32unumI was working at it backwards, which of course wasn't working
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20:38.27SargunOh god>><mheath> -.- I hate having a pregnant wife.
20:41.52Jayce^Sargun, we did *not* need to hear/read that..
20:44.23Sargunit is procreating!
20:44.52unumjust be thankful I'm not :)
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20:56.44sjansenhttp://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/funny-pictures-cheerleader-cat-wishes-you-would-die.jpg
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21:07.57sjansenelg: You must be dense, because that doesn't sound too hard.
21:08.57sjanseni = nextInt(); while (i) { printf("%1d", i % 10); i /= 10; }
21:09.02sjansenOr am I missing something?
21:11.29sjansenYup, I was right. Testing basic understanding of looping and integer math. Also a nice like in K.I.S.S.
21:11.38sjansens/like/lesson/
21:22.18jshipleywhat does it do?
21:22.21jshipleys/it/ibot/
21:22.29jshipleythat's cool
21:22.53jshipleywhat triggers it to say "your sister?"
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21:24.07sjansen~lart jshipley
21:24.07ibotblames jshipley for all the evil in the world
21:24.22sjansenerr, that is...
21:24.27sjansen~whaleslap jshipley
21:24.28ibotACTION beats jshipley upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
21:24.38sjansenno, no, that's no it...
21:24.42sjansen~punish jshipley
21:24.42ibotACTION forces jshipley to install and use Windows
21:24.51goozbachyou need to do way instan mothers
21:24.55goozbach~babby
21:24.56iboti guess babby is http://www.somethingawful.com/flash/shmorky/babby.swf
21:25.02sjansenLet's see, maybe it's...
21:25.14sjansen~onjoin #utah elg
21:25.14ibotonjoin for elg set by brac on Tue Oct 21 08:19:02 2008: my sister
21:25.35jshipleyso, where can I find lobotomy?
21:26.00sjansen~onjoin #utah elg Who da man?
21:26.00ibotok, sjansen
21:27.20jshipley~lobotomy
21:27.21ibotI feel different somehow.
21:27.33sjansen~attack jshipley
21:27.33ibotACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing jshipley
21:27.36jshipley~lobotomy sjansen
21:27.37ibotACTION pulls out a rusty saw to perform a lobotomy on sjansen
21:27.48sjansen~travolta jshipley
21:27.49ibotACTION replaces jshipley with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power
21:28.05jshipley~md5 sjansen
21:28.28jshipleylol, I think I've had enough of ibot...
21:31.18goozbach-md5 goozbach
21:31.34goozbach~md5 goozbach
21:31.42redbeard2~sha1 goozbach
21:31.52redbeard2~sha1sum goozbach
21:32.49goozbachI had to check
21:33.06goozbach[dcarter@new ~]$ echo goozbach | md5sum
21:33.06goozbachc589a4530ea31ab7857cc4e557963e7d  -
21:33.17goozbachI was suspicious
21:33.21goozbachso I tried this:
21:33.30goozbach[dcarter@new ~]$ echo -e "goozbach\n" | md5sum
21:33.30goozbach59680aea638b81e3e1ae5b58e938e064  -
21:33.49goozbachat which point I thought, hmm echo adds a newline by default
21:33.54goozbachand then tried this:
21:34.00goozbach[dcarter@new ~]$ echo -en "goozbach" | md5sum
21:34.01goozbach839d37678c5b7864f1782ce10c65f30d  -
21:34.11goozbachvoila, my md5 matches
21:34.59tensaiI'm certain I speak for all of us when I say that I'm relieved
21:35.55jsmithgoozbach: Memorize that number... you'll be required to recite it next time I see you
21:36.06goozbachheh
21:36.12goozbachonly if you memorize:
21:36.17goozbach~md5 jsmith
21:37.45sjansen~nickometer jshipley
21:38.38sjansen~nickometer redbeard2
21:38.44jsmithgoozbach: I do know that it ends with "f8f7"
21:39.23redbeard2~nickometer sjansen
21:39.42redbeard2well, that leaves little doubt as to who wrote the nickometer
21:40.30jshipleyyou're saying that sjansen and I wrote it?
21:40.31{-}~nickometer redbeard2
21:40.37jshipley~nickometer jshipley
21:40.39{-}~nickometer {-}
21:40.46jshipleyhmm... it's not random
21:40.49jshipley~nickometer jshipley
21:40.59jshipleynope, it's real :)
21:40.59goozbachno, it's not random
21:41.03goozbachit's calculated
21:41.08redbeard2~nickometer Jayce^
21:41.19jshipley~nickometer the muffin man
21:41.19goozbach~nickometer l337haxor11111!!!!oneoneone
21:41.20redbeard2at least i'm no more lame than Jayce^
21:41.40jshipley~nickometer foobar
21:41.43redbeard2~nickometer 2167672184562391739853218
21:42.03harleypig~nickometer harleypig
21:42.06redbeard2~nickometer 2167672184562391739853218a
21:42.06goozbachhttp://adamspiers.org/computing/nickometer/
21:42.16harleypigI'm not lame at all!
21:42.22tensaianother round of nickometer? yay...
21:42.38sjansentensai: Does that bother you alot?
21:42.53harleypig~nickometer tensai
21:43.00tensaiI'll spoil the surprise and warn you that there is no way to get 100% lame
21:43.09harleypig~nickometer every damn one of the idjits in this channel!
21:43.15jshipley~nickometer elitekinglord69
21:43.23sjansentensai: I admit, I deserve alot of the blame. Punish me as you will.
21:43.28tensaiit's all based on non-alpha characters
21:44.21tensai~sink sjansen
21:44.22goozbach~nickometer l337haxor11111!!69doodrulz
21:44.22sjansenharleypig wins!
21:44.38harleypig:>
21:44.55redbeard2~nickometer 1337CAPS!!warez
21:45.00harleypigI wonder how one could get 100.0000 lame
21:45.11jsmith~nickometer ~~~~~~
21:45.12redbeard2~nickometer 1337CAPS!!warezk1ng
21:45.28redbeard2~nickometer 1337CAPS!!warezk1ngrulezd00d
21:45.34jsmithOooh.... getting closer
21:46.07jshipley~nickometer 1337CAPS!!wArEzk1ngrUlEZd00D
21:46.12goozbach~nickometer 1337CAPS!!WaReZk1NgRuLeZd00d!!111doo3
21:46.29redbeard2~nickometer 1337CAPS!!warezk1ngrulezd00dtEsT
21:46.31harleypig~nickometer every damn one of the idjits in this channel(!)
21:46.52jshipley~nickometer 1337CAPS!!WAREZK1NGRULEZD00DX69X1337X
21:47.03sjansenWe have a new winner!
21:47.29harleypig~nickometer every damn one of the idjits in this channel(!) :)
21:47.40goozbach~nickometer 1337CAPS!!WAREZK1NGRULEZD00DX69X1337XxxXXXdoodFuseks(){}{PPP{P{{{
21:47.44harleypig~nickometer every damn one of the idjits in this channel(!) :):):):)
21:47.49redbeard2~nickometer 1337CAPS!!warezk1ngrulezd00dtEsT soRAD i em!
21:47.54jshipley~nickometer 1337CAPS!!WAREZK1NGRULEZD00DX69X1337XKEWL9234WAREZZZDARKPRONXX{{}}{{}}{{}}:::{{}}{{}}{{}}
21:47.55sjansenOh, my, it's getting brutal out there!
21:48.08harleypig~nickometer (: (: (: (!) every damn one of the idjits in this channel (!) :):):):)
21:48.21harleypig~nickometer (: (: (: (: (!) every damn one of the idjits in this channel (!) :) :) :) :)
21:48.26goozbach~nickometer '1337CAPS!!WAREZK1NGRULEZD00DX69X1337XKEWL9234WAREZZZDARKPRONXX{{}}{{}}{{}}:::{{}}{{}}{{}}pis!ESserS#000#@!$@%#@^&'
21:48.35goozbach.998!
21:48.36harleypig~nickometer (: (: (: (: (: (!) every damn one of the idjits in this channel (!) :) :) :) :) :)
21:48.37goozbachyeah!
21:48.40jshipleyIf I understand the source right from my 5 seconds of looking at it... we'd basically have to get a score of infinity to get 100%, right?
21:48.45goozbachyeah
21:48.46harleypig~nickometer (: (: (: (: (: (!) every damn one of the idjits in this channel (!) :) :) :) :) :) 69
21:49.06redbeard2bah. you guys are looking for high scores. i'm looking for buffer overflows.
21:49.09sjansenjshipley is in the lead with  99.9976%
21:49.15goozbach~nickometer '1337CAPS!!WAREZK1NGRULEZD00DX69X1337XKEWL9234WAREZZZDARKPRONXX{{}}{{}}{{}}:::{{}}{{}}{{}}pis!ESserS#000#@!$@%#@^&'sdfawwesdfa2##doood
21:49.22harleypig~nickometer (: (: (: (: (: (!) every damn one of the idjits (kewl dudes) in this channel (!) :) :) :) :) :) 69
21:49.30goozbachsjansen: I just scored 99.998
21:49.34jshipley<PROTECTED>
21:49.47harleypig~nickometer (: (: (: (: (: (!) every damn one of the idjits (kewl dude lusers) in this channel (!) :) :) :) :) :) 69
21:50.07goozbachjshipley: good show
21:50.10redbeard2~nickometer \
21:50.19harleypigminimalist!
21:50.23redbeard2~nickometer \lame
21:50.26sjansen~nickometer sjansen
21:50.34redbeard2~nickometer lame
21:50.37synic~nickometer \w4r3z
21:50.43goozbach-nickometer DcArter
21:50.44synicibot: you fail
21:50.45ibotACTION slaps synic for calling her a failure
21:50.47jshipley~nickometer XjshipleyX
21:51.08harleypig~nickometer 69 death dark night nite cool kewl lame dood dude roolz rules luser leet elite lord king pron warez xx
21:51.15harleypigfeh
21:51.24jshipley~nickometer 0xffjshipley0xff
21:51.40jshipley~nickometer 0xFFjshipley0xFF
21:51.57jshipley~nickometer [0xFF]jshipley[0xFF]
21:52.15jshipley~nickometer <{0xFF}jshipley{0xFF}>
21:52.29harleypig~nickometer ( 69 ( death ( dark ( night ( nite ( cool ( kewl ( lame ( dood ( dude ( roolz ( rules ( luser ( leet ( elite ( lord ( king ( pron ( warez ( xx ( 69
21:52.49goozbachharleypig: try that again, but with more caps
21:52.58jshipley~nickometer x>X<{0xFF}jshipley{0xFF}>X<x
21:53.12sjansen~nickometer ☢☢ihazcheezburger☢☢
21:53.46harleypig~nickometer ( 69 ( deAth ( daRk ( niGht ( niTe ( cOOl ( kEwl ( lAme ( dOOd ( Dude ( roolZ ( ruleS ( lusEr ( lEet ( elIte ( loRd ( kiNg ( prOn ( waRez ( xX ( 69
21:53.57harleypig.0002 improvement.
21:54.16harleypig~nickometer ( 69 ( deAth ( daRk ( niGht ( niTe ( cOOl ( kEwl ( lAme ( dOOd ( Dude ( roolZ ( ruleS ( lusEr ( lEet ( elIte ( loRd ( kiNg ( prOn ( waRez ( xX ( 6969696969
21:54.38harleypig~nickometer ( 69 ( deAth ( daRk ( niGht ( niTe ( cOOl ( kEwl ( lAme ( dOOd ( Dude ( roolZ ( ruleS ( lusEr ( lEet ( elIte ( loRd ( kiNg ( prOn ( waRez ( xX ( !69!69!69!69!69!
21:55.11goozbachthis would be fun contest, if we were reigned in by the limits of what a network allowed nick is allowed.
21:55.22jshipley~nickometer 0xPRONx0 0xWAREZx0
21:55.22sjansen~nickometer ☠☠ᎠѠᎠЄ☠☠
21:55.39goozbachsjansen's radioactive icanhas wouldn't be proper
21:55.54sjansenso?
21:56.12sjansenYou're just jealous.
21:56.15jshipley~lart nickometer
21:56.15ibotjudo chops nickometer
21:56.32harleypig~nickometer ( 69 ( deAth ( daRk ( niGht ( niTe ( cOOl ( kEwl ( lAme ( dOOd ( Dude ( roolZ ( ruleS ( lusEr ( lEet ( elIte ( loRd ( kiNg ( prOn ( waReZ ( xX ( !69!69!69!69!69! XabcX ZdefZ
21:57.02goozbachI'm just saying, you can get progressively closer just by making your nick longer, or adding unicode, but the real hack would be a nick which was 99.999 and still was valid as a nick on the network
21:57.24goozbachthen you could register it and it could be known as the most lame nick on the network
21:59.45unumdid anyone else watch powell's endorsement?
22:00.01goozbachnah, we were too busy with the lame nick-o-meter
22:00.02unumI think I might be able to forgive him...
22:10.41harleypigX?m!y@l4m34ssn1ckZ
22:10.46harleypig~nickometer X?m!y@l4m34ssn1ckZ
22:10.51harleypigfeh
22:11.07harleypigwork? what's that?
22:20.00tensaiI step away for 2 minutes and look what you monkeys did
22:21.46sjansentensai: http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/funny-pictures-grinch-cat-is-a-mean-one.jpg
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22:23.25dieselrsimpkins: What's up.  (I am Dave Long)
22:24.08dieselrsimpkins: So you and I talked about the WestHost use of a central login server and that you built upon that using an open source project.  What was the name of that open source project?
22:24.25dieselrsimpkins: and no, I am not getting heat from WestHost...tahnkfully
22:26.25fozzmoo~lart westhost
22:26.25ibotholds westhost to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails
22:26.30fozzmooWheee!
22:28.02harleypigdoes westhost like it?
22:28.21dieselfozzmoo: indeed, I loathe WestHost
22:30.32goozbachhttp://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=1649
22:30.47JoshHwhat do you hate about them?
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22:33.27sjansenhttp://www.biggerbetterbeards.org/
22:33.28brac[10 Very Good Reasons Why You Should Grow a Giant Beard]
22:41.43mrpullgoozbach: war fair ?  fail
22:41.59Jayce^http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=2309
22:44.58goozbachit's harleypig on reason #6
22:47.46harleypigI'll go for reason 2
22:48.45harleypigerr ... I'm not sure I'd be willing to share my beard with just anyone (#7)
22:49.53harleypigYou'd have to be young, pretty, curvy ...
22:50.22harleypigand not my kind of curvy either
22:51.14mrpull#6 does seem to be a reasonably good approximation of harleypig :)
22:51.17fozzmooHmmm.
22:51.37fozzmooApparently, by calling Barack Obama a "socialist" I'm really using a code word to say that he's "black"
22:51.42mrpullwhat's up with the goofy transition anyway?
22:52.01mrpullfozzmoo: we've known you were racially biased the whole time <JOKING>
22:52.24fozzmooWell, both are true.
22:52.31fozzmoohe is black and he is socialist.
22:52.51fozzmooBut I guess if we say we don't like him BECAUSE he's socialist, then we're racist.
22:53.15mrpulland after he wins the election, you'll be UNAMERICAN too
22:53.33fozzmoo"Mr. Hannity, you are a great unamerican!"
22:54.13mrpullI should be more careful with my sarcasm
22:54.25fozzmoomrpull: You're a great unamerican.
22:54.41fozzmoomrpull: Thanks! I think you've created a monster.
22:54.49mrpullsweet
22:55.47mrpullfozzmoo: on the bright side, the right-wing radio guys have a few good years in front of them.
22:56.03mrpullfozzmoo: they can be more critical without eating their own babies
22:56.10fozzmooIf they're not swept out by Fairness Doctrine.
22:56.22mrpullbah, I don't think that can happen
22:57.07fozzmooIt happened before.
22:57.18fozzmooI think it's a lot more difficult now.
22:57.29fozzmooI mean, ban certain things from the airwaves... they can just go to the net.
22:57.36mrpullagreed
22:59.01fozzmooI know a lot of conservative talk radio folks started making preparations when that whole thing went down with Don Imus.
22:59.22fozzmooWith more libs in power, it's all eggshells everywhere you look.
22:59.47fozzmoocan't say anything potentially a bit offensive.
22:59.58fozzmooCan't call someone a black person... I mean, a socialist.
23:01.36JoshHlibs in power had nothing to do with don imus
23:01.58JoshHwho returned to the air, then said something stupid again, which he wasn't punished for at all
23:02.31fozzmooI didn't say libs in power had anything to do with Don Imus.
23:02.54fozzmooI said that conservative talk radio hosts began making preparations for when libs would be in power after what happened to Don Imus (who is quite liberal).
23:03.01JoshHconservatives have traditionally been a bigger threat to the first amendment
23:03.07JoshHand liberals to to the second
23:03.14fozzmooI can see that argument.
23:20.07jackmanThe question is: What's Obama gonna do for Open Source?
23:20.46jackmanIsn't black/socialist good for communcal software?
23:21.10jackmanWhat's the /real/ issue here?
23:30.38dataw0lfRight.  Obama's socialist.
23:30.45dataw0lfrubs his eyes
23:30.55dataw0lfWheeeeew.
23:34.16dataw0lfSocialist is one of the nicer things I've heard Obama called at the Palin and McCain rallies I've been at, quite frankly.
23:34.24dataw0lf(just attended a Palin rally this morning)
23:34.52dataw0lfI'm pretty sure that Senator Obama can weather the attacks, but what pisses me off is the implication when they call him a "terrorist".
23:34.56dataw0lfI support a terrorist, huh.
23:35.02dataw0lfWonders shall never cease.
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23:43.26jackmanwhat'a a 'terrorist'?
23:44.02jackmanis that another code name for 'black'?
23:45.46dataw0lfit's a word neocons throw around post-9/11 to anyone who doesn't fit into their narrow view of the world.
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23:48.18dataw0lfall I can say is that the neocons would be well-served not directing any of this crap they're directing at other Obama supporters at me.  I don't take kindly to being called a terrorist and I have severe anger issues - amusingly from serving in the war(s) they're so gung ho about.
23:49.13jackmanah
23:49.50jackmanneocons, eh?
23:50.53dataw0lfYes, neocons.  People who've twisted and contorted the mainstream conservative movement into something that's not conservative at all except for in name.
23:51.05jackmanah-ha
23:51.08jackmanno that makes sense
23:51.11jackmannwo
23:51.15jackmannow that makes sense
23:51.30jackmani've met a few of those
23:51.37jackmanthey ride public transportation. :)
23:52.32dataw0lfGenerally composed of rabid religious people and/or people who've been frightened into complete sheep-dom by a generalized terrorist threat after 8 years of Bush.
23:52.37dataw0lfThat's what I mean when I say neocon.
23:52.52jackmanya
23:52.54jackmani know
23:53.04jackmanit's a bit troublesome
23:53.25jackmani have yet to see an intelligent debate on the topc
23:53.34dataw0lfon what topic?
23:53.49jackmanpresidential election, bush, terrorists, etc.
23:54.15dataw0lfyou're hanging out with the wrong people.
23:54.36jackmanlol
23:54.40jackmanevidently
23:54.46jackmaneh
23:54.50jackmani'm out of my league, anyway
23:55.30jackmanare you a plug or sllug guy?
23:55.43dataw0lfI don't live in Utah anymore.
23:56.02jackmanah
23:56.09jackmanwhereabouts do you reside?
23:56.17dataw0lfReno, Nevada.
23:57.14jackmanah
23:57.17jackmanis life good there?
23:57.49sjansenLife is brown there.
23:57.50dataw0lfDecent.  Get paid well, and just got a raise.  And skiing season is about to start.
23:58.03jackmanskiing in nevada?
23:58.12dataw0lfReno is 30 minutes from Tahoe.
23:58.47dataw0lfReno is directly on the edge of eastern side of the Sierra Nevadas.
23:58.50dataw0lfof the*
23:59.12dataw0lfAs close, if not closer, as Salt Lake is to the Rockies.
23:59.22jackmanah
23:59.23jackmancool
23:59.34jackmani told you i was out of my league.  :)

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