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| 02:26.09 | goozbach | -chat she has |
| 02:26.10 | brac | she has the weird downloader if it's in one hand for balance |
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| 02:42.01 | jsmith | goozbach: How goes the battle? |
| 02:42.14 | jsmith | goozbach: Getting to relax this weekend, or fighting fires in the data center? |
| 02:44.00 | goozbach | jsmith: trying to figure out cobbler, on my laptop, at my house |
| 02:44.16 | jsmith | goozbach: Learn it well, and then distill it down into a couple of lessons for me |
| 02:44.29 | jsmith | I tried to conquer it a couple of years ago, but it seemed way too complicated |
| 02:44.29 | goozbach | but I guess I'm not going to have much "hack time" wife misses me... |
| 02:44.37 | goozbach | I guess I need to go... |
| 02:44.48 | goozbach | cobbler I've got |
| 02:44.49 | jsmith | has been doing the whole PXE boot/DHCP/provisioning thing for years though |
| 02:44.57 | goozbach | cobbler for debian, not so much |
| 02:45.05 | goozbach | jsmith: what do you know about preseed?! |
| 02:45.11 | elg | ~miss goozbach |
| 02:45.12 | ibot | ACTION whips a six shooter from her hip and fires just to the right of goozbach. |
| 02:46.15 | jsmith | goozbach: Absolutely nothing... Last time I tried Debian was potato, and it failed miserably for me |
| 02:46.29 | elg | dinosaur |
| 02:47.03 | nick125 | rawr!! |
| 02:47.50 | jsmith | Uh, yeah... |
| 02:48.06 | jsmith | Let's just say it burned me so bad that I've had real problems trying it again since |
| 02:51.57 | goozbach | I just wish I could get our software stack running on centos |
| 02:52.03 | goozbach | my troubles would be over |
| 02:52.43 | jsmith | goozbach: I think they got your nasty Perl problem fixed, fwiw |
| 02:57.02 | goozbach | which perl problem? |
| 02:57.09 | goozbach | I've had a couple of them recently |
| 02:57.14 | goozbach | the publican one? |
| 03:07.39 | jsmith | goozbach: No, the "Perl performance sucks" one |
| 03:07.52 | jsmith | goozbach: The publican ones should have been fixed in 0.38 (which came out yesterday) |
| 03:08.24 | jsmith | goozbach: I've really been beating up on Jeff Fearn for those... why he's using ugly perl code to do search/replace instead of doing XSLT or XPath stuff is beyond me |
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| 03:24.27 | eightyeight | i can get 256 colors in screen on a remote server, and i can get 256 colors in screen locally, but, when i run screen locally, then connect to a remote screen session, i can't. does that make sense? |
| 03:24.52 | Sargun_Screen | eightyeight: what's with the nick name? |
| 03:26.15 | eightyeight | screen is part of the gnu project |
| 03:29.57 | Sargun_Screen | .... |
| 03:30.12 | Sargun_Screen | I mean, what is the significance of the name " eightyeight " |
| 03:30.31 | Sargun | to remove any ambiguity from the question... |
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| 03:30.42 | eightyeight | http://pthree.org/2008/08/23/new-irc-nick/ |
| 03:32.36 | Sargun | oh... I thought it meant else |
| 03:33.32 | eightyeight | what did you think it meant? |
| 03:34.40 | Sargun | I thought you were a neonazi. |
| 03:35.03 | eightyeight | ... |
| 03:37.35 | Sargun | you never know... |
| 03:39.10 | eightyeight | i think thats the first time i've been labeled as a nazi |
| 03:51.04 | Tene | eightyeight: quit being a nazi |
| 03:51.19 | Tene | I saw you today, and you were certainly dressed like a nazi |
| 03:54.38 | eightyeight | skin head and all |
| 03:54.46 | Tene | totally |
| 03:55.07 | Tene | no, I meant the turtleneck |
| 03:55.34 | eightyeight | ahh. yeah. it's the new neo nazi fad |
| 03:56.19 | Tene | neo neo nazi |
| 03:57.09 | eightyeight | if screen on server x support 256 colors, and screen locally supports 256 colors, then couldn't i conclude that running remote server x screen inside of local screen would also support 256 colors? |
| 03:57.34 | eightyeight | instead, i'm only getting 8 |
| 04:29.44 | levi | Good evening. |
| 04:30.27 | Tene | Certainly is. |
| 04:30.53 | levi | What's up? |
| 04:33.06 | Tene | Just about to start working on my roguelike. |
| 04:36.09 | levi | Ah, fun. |
| 04:37.56 | Tene | I think it is. |
| 04:49.29 | Tene | What's up with you? |
| 04:54.09 | levi | Just got back from dinner with some people in the neighborhood. |
| 04:55.46 | levi | Played an interesting game called Bohnanza. |
| 04:58.35 | Sargun | you made outside contact |
| 04:58.39 | Sargun | good job |
| 04:59.20 | Sargun | interesting game |
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| 05:19.48 | levi | elg: The short hair looks much better. |
| 05:20.02 | elg | ya |
| 05:20.21 | elg | i'm going to hold it here (1/2") for now, because it occurs to me that i have the most awesome halloween costume |
| 05:20.56 | elg | on halloween, shave the top, total old-guy baldness like picard etc. |
| 05:21.02 | elg | next morning, shave the rest |
| 05:56.35 | levi | Heh, fun. |
| 05:56.49 | levi | Now that I've finished watching the silly chick flick with my wife, it's time for bed. |
| 06:21.59 | Supaplex | -blame php |
| 06:30.49 | eightyeight | -chat Supaplex was |
| 06:30.50 | brac | Supaplex was concerned with 'legitimizing' their music |
| 06:31.50 | Supaplex | hi =) |
| 06:32.17 | eightyeight | pirating mp3s, are we? |
| 06:32.24 | Sargun | o.O |
| 06:32.40 | Sargun | -chat about dogs |
| 06:32.41 | brac | dogs did |
| 06:32.44 | Sargun | -chat about dogs |
| 06:32.45 | brac | dogs was |
| 06:32.48 | Sargun | -chat about nukes |
| 06:32.50 | brac | nukes went with the HP enclosure is nearly complete |
| 06:37.04 | Sargun | Is it bad when your product launch is in 24 hours, and there are only 2% of the beta testers using it? |
| 06:37.19 | eightyeight | heh |
| 06:37.41 | eightyeight | i guess not, if those 2 are thorough |
| 06:38.30 | Sargun | We'll see |
| 06:38.32 | Sargun | tomorrow... |
| 06:40.16 | Sargun | the max number that were on |
| 06:40.17 | Sargun | was 65% |
| 06:40.22 | Sargun | (in the past week) |
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| 08:59.26 | jackman | sweet |
| 08:59.37 | jackman | I'm back on with a /real/ irc client. :) |
| 09:00.32 | Sargun | which is? |
| 09:00.48 | jackman | irssi |
| 09:01.00 | jackman | I was using pidgin there for a little while |
| 09:01.14 | jackman | it really wasn't designed for irc... |
| 09:01.25 | jackman | what's up? |
| 09:01.42 | Sargun | not much |
| 09:01.44 | Sargun | you |
| 09:01.52 | Sargun | importing large amounts of GIS data |
| 09:01.54 | Sargun | into MySQL |
| 09:02.05 | Sargun | learning how much MySQL can suck. |
| 09:02.42 | jackman | you're one up on me |
| 09:02.49 | jackman | never tried it personally |
| 09:03.05 | jackman | we use MS SQL at work. |
| 09:03.08 | Sargun | oh, god. |
| 09:05.44 | jackman | :) |
| 09:06.00 | jackman | I didn't design it. |
| 09:06.05 | jackman | I just use the system. |
| 09:06.22 | jackman | They don't pay me enough to care. |
| 09:07.08 | Sargun | hehe |
| 09:07.12 | Sargun | you're a programmer? |
| 09:08.04 | jackman | not professionally |
| 09:08.32 | Sargun | sysadmin? |
| 09:08.38 | Sargun | secretary? |
| 09:08.40 | Sargun | clerk? |
| 09:08.44 | jackman | Ummm... |
| 09:08.53 | Sargun_Screen | nuclear weapons expert? |
| 09:08.55 | jackman | My title is "Production Control Associate" |
| 09:09.15 | jackman | I watch about 50 computers that process data for UPS. |
| 09:09.27 | Sargun | uhm... |
| 09:09.36 | Sargun | Are you also in Six Sigma? ;-P |
| 09:09.45 | jackman | They're XP machines, so when one goes down, I just pick it up and shake it. :P |
| 09:10.01 | jackman | 6 Sigma? |
| 09:10.07 | Sargun | six sigma |
| 09:10.20 | jackman | what's that? |
| 09:11.05 | Sargun | ah |
| 09:11.14 | Sargun | its a program run by large corporations |
| 09:11.27 | Sargun | to promote bureaucracy |
| 09:11.58 | jackman | Don't know about that |
| 09:12.00 | Sargun | ok |
| 09:12.00 | jackman | New to me |
| 09:12.01 | Sargun | good. |
| 09:12.17 | Sargun | so, what kind of processing? |
| 09:12.19 | Sargun | what kind of data? |
| 09:12.25 | Sargun | is the data beautiful? |
| 09:12.31 | jackman | package labels and their digital data counterparts |
| 09:12.38 | Sargun | oh. |
| 09:12.38 | jackman | not really |
| 09:12.45 | jackman | someone of it was very poorly written |
| 09:12.49 | Sargun | hehe |
| 09:12.50 | jackman | :( |
| 09:14.21 | Sargun | CBC, and CAB |
| 09:14.22 | jackman | my department runs a system which receives label images from ups and we are responsible for sending back the data in digital format that appears on the label. |
| 09:14.22 | Sargun | so far |
| 09:14.29 | Sargun | ah |
| 09:14.33 | Sargun | that's ... interesting |
| 09:14.34 | Sargun | not really |
| 09:14.44 | Sargun | so they send you raw image data |
| 09:14.48 | Sargun | and you do a database query |
| 09:14.52 | Sargun | and send back the data |
| 09:14.58 | Sargun | they have an entire department for that? |
| 09:15.04 | Sargun | here we call that a table |
| 09:15.08 | jackman | lol |
| 09:15.17 | Sargun | whose responsible for generating the labels? |
| 09:15.22 | jackman | well, we have 200+ keyers that actually read the data and type |
| 09:15.25 | Sargun | and valueing the keys |
| 09:15.37 | Sargun | please tell me you mean 200+ computers |
| 09:15.39 | Sargun | not humans |
| 09:15.45 | jackman | humans |
| 09:15.54 | Sargun | oh god. |
| 09:15.57 | jackman | ya |
| 09:16.01 | Sargun | can't you send that to russia. |
| 09:16.05 | Sargun | or somewhere? |
| 09:16.05 | jackman | lol |
| 09:16.10 | jackman | ummm... |
| 09:16.11 | jackman | ya |
| 09:16.15 | Sargun | I mean, if you have the people her |
| 09:16.20 | jackman | we call it south america. :) |
| 09:16.22 | Sargun | here, just pass the labels between two cameras |
| 09:16.33 | Sargun | or, yeah |
| 09:16.39 | Sargun | if its a 3-5 day package |
| 09:16.43 | Sargun | you guys can fly the labels |
| 09:16.48 | Sargun | down to mexico |
| 09:17.07 | jackman | ups scans them and creates a jpeg |
| 09:17.12 | jackman | we receive the jpegs |
| 09:17.32 | Sargun | JPEG? not PNG -- surprising. |
| 09:17.44 | jackman | yeah... |
| 09:17.49 | jackman | i'm not up on the specifics |
| 09:17.51 | jackman | it could be a png |
| 09:17.59 | jackman | i just watch the computers |
| 09:18.06 | jackman | i almost never see an actual image. |
| 09:18.25 | jackman | what is it that you do? |
| 09:18.32 | Sargun | (sys/net)admin |
| 09:18.37 | jackman | sweet |
| 09:18.41 | Sargun | and program for entertainment and torture. |
| 09:18.48 | jackman | lol |
| 09:18.57 | jackman | I'd love to get a sysadmin job |
| 09:19.22 | Sargun | heh. |
| 09:19.28 | Sargun | you're just a datacenter admin? |
| 09:19.39 | Sargun | or, are these computers not in a DC? |
| 09:20.38 | jackman | ya |
| 09:20.48 | jackman | not much to tell, really. |
| 09:21.03 | Sargun | hm |
| 09:21.17 | jackman | where do you work? |
| 09:21.22 | Sargun | do you get to at least prod, poke, and make fun of the data entry guys |
| 09:21.25 | Sargun | down town SJC. |
| 09:21.31 | Sargun | deCarta |
| 09:21.35 | Sargun | they are an LBS company |
| 09:21.36 | jackman | ah |
| 09:21.38 | Sargun | oh, holy shit |
| 09:21.43 | Sargun | we have a product launch tonight |
| 09:21.48 | jackman | is that good? |
| 09:21.49 | Sargun | err |
| 09:21.52 | Sargun | nevermin |
| 09:21.55 | jackman | ok |
| 09:21.56 | Sargun | kind of |
| 09:22.01 | jackman | I work at ACS |
| 09:22.32 | Sargun | interesting |
| 09:23.13 | jackman | What's it take to be a sys/net admin in these here parts? |
| 09:23.22 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:23.30 | Sargun | No clue |
| 09:23.38 | Sargun | As I said earlier, I'm in downtown SJC |
| 09:24.57 | jackman | what is SJC exactly? |
| 09:25.17 | Sargun | a city |
| 09:25.20 | Sargun | well |
| 09:25.22 | Sargun | and airport code |
| 09:25.24 | Sargun | actually |
| 09:26.07 | jackman | you're gonna make me look it up? |
| 09:26.21 | Sargun | http://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/AirportLookup.jsp?q=SJC&go=1 |
| 09:26.28 | Sargun | http://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/usmap.jsp |
| 09:26.35 | Sargun | you know, being the 10th largest US city |
| 09:26.40 | Sargun | you really should know about us |
| 09:26.43 | jackman | San Jose? |
| 09:26.46 | Sargun | yes. |
| 09:26.53 | Sargun | California, not costa rica |
| 09:27.00 | jackman | I'm from a little desert town. :) |
| 09:27.06 | Sargun | heh |
| 09:27.07 | jackman | in Oregon. |
| 09:27.22 | jackman | I moved to Utah about a year ago |
| 09:27.31 | jackman | before that I was in Peru for a couple years |
| 09:27.45 | Sargun | for your mission? |
| 09:27.49 | jackman | yep |
| 09:27.56 | Sargun | you should have stayed there |
| 09:28.29 | jackman | why do you say that? |
| 09:28.57 | Sargun | Look at the state of the US. |
| 09:29.15 | Sargun | in SA they aren't as credit dependent as us. |
| 09:29.43 | jackman | no |
| 09:30.08 | Sargun | no? |
| 09:30.09 | jackman | but they're overstocked in the HIV, pollution, and poverty department. |
| 09:30.14 | Sargun | that's a good point. |
| 09:31.13 | jackman | Not that I didn't enjoy it |
| 09:31.35 | jackman | but I'd still prefer the US and it's comforts over a stable 3rd world country |
| 09:31.38 | Sargun | How do you think they should battle HIB? |
| 09:31.42 | Sargun | s/HIB/HIV/ |
| 09:32.01 | jackman | Ummm... |
| 09:32.12 | Sargun | (btw its I think...) |
| 09:32.21 | jackman | There is a ton of corruption in the executive branch of the government |
| 09:32.33 | Sargun | yes, but how does that affect HIV patients? |
| 09:32.41 | jackman | It would make a huge difference if they laws were actually enforced. |
| 09:32.42 | Sargun | and the proliferation of the disease? |
| 09:32.53 | Sargun | for example, what laws? |
| 09:33.07 | jackman | Such as the laws preventing criminal sexual acts |
| 09:33.11 | Sargun | yeah... |
| 09:33.16 | jackman | and prostitution |
| 09:33.18 | Sargun | those are pretty hard to enforce |
| 09:33.42 | Sargun | See, I think in Africa its a different problem |
| 09:33.45 | jackman | well, i'm not talking about stuff that happens in deep dark alley ways and out of the public eye |
| 09:33.50 | Sargun | a lot of HIV is passed from parent to child. |
| 09:33.54 | jackman | right |
| 09:34.02 | Sargun | (in africa) |
| 09:34.05 | Sargun | compared to SA |
| 09:34.24 | Sargun | yeah, but the thing is politicians don't get much $ from defending women. |
| 09:34.35 | Sargun | s/women/innocent women/ |
| 09:34.48 | Sargun | they get money for defending large corporations, and contributors. |
| 09:35.12 | jackman | yep |
| 09:35.22 | jackman | true |
| 09:35.23 | Sargun | Corruption is a necessary evil for some to flourish in the state as they are so reliant on foreign investment |
| 09:35.53 | Sargun | whereas in countries like africa |
| 09:36.00 | Sargun | I think it would be a lot more effective |
| 09:36.03 | Sargun | if people who had HIV |
| 09:36.09 | Sargun | were sterilized. |
| 09:36.16 | Sargun | anyways.. |
| 09:36.18 | Sargun | Why Utah? |
| 09:36.45 | jackman | When I came back from Peru, my family kinda made it hard for me to come home (to Oregon) |
| 09:37.04 | Sargun | oh... I'm sorry... |
| 09:37.20 | Sargun | You should have moved above 'em -- washington |
| 09:37.23 | Sargun | ok, that was a bad joke |
| 09:38.36 | jackman | lol |
| 09:38.36 | jackman | ya |
| 09:38.36 | jackman | it's cool |
| 09:38.36 | jackman | I lived there for a while too |
| 09:38.36 | jackman | I liked it |
| 09:38.36 | Sargun | but its utah... |
| 09:38.43 | Sargun | you know where I'd like to work |
| 09:38.45 | Sargun | a Casino. |
| 09:38.57 | jackman | lol |
| 09:38.58 | jackman | I bet |
| 09:39.00 | Sargun | doing network administration in Las Vegas would be fun. |
| 09:41.14 | jackman | just about anything in vegas sounds like fun. :) |
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| 09:55.41 | jackman | sorry about that |
| 09:55.42 | jackman | i'm back |
| 10:04.03 | Sargun | noproblem |
| 10:04.05 | Sargun | what are you upto |
| 10:04.08 | Sargun | at 0400? |
| 10:07.03 | jackman | i'm housesitting |
| 10:07.06 | jackman | a house |
| 10:07.12 | jackman | with a giant |
| 10:07.12 | jackman | hd |
| 10:07.13 | jackman | tv |
| 10:07.16 | jackman | :) |
| 10:07.39 | jackman | it's amazing |
| 10:07.48 | jackman | even commercials look fantastic |
| 10:08.00 | jackman | Subway... in HD. |
| 10:08.07 | jackman | Denny's... In HD. |
| 10:08.15 | jackman | AARP... in HD. |
| 10:08.19 | jackman | :) |
| 10:08.32 | jackman | you? |
| 10:09.05 | jackman | are you at work? |
| 10:12.00 | Sargun | I'm getting ready |
| 10:12.02 | Sargun | to sleep. |
| 10:12.07 | Sargun | you house sit? |
| 10:12.10 | Sargun | professionally |
| 10:12.13 | Sargun | do you get paid? |
| 10:33.25 | jackman | nope |
| 10:33.34 | jackman | i just do it for family and stuff |
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| 16:35.55 | Sargun_Screen | http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat161300050004&type=category&DCMP=rdr0001667 < I wonder how they got it to run on the emulator |
| 16:36.07 | brac | [Insignia GPS] |
| 16:36.29 | Sargun_Screen | or if that's just a screenshot. |
| 16:42.08 | Supaplex | ibot: shoot the screen for a screen shot |
| 16:42.09 | ibot | ACTION shoots the screen for a screen shot in the head with a cork gun! |
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| 16:56.41 | Sargun_Screen | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caGjG_9nFwY < heh |
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| 17:51.48 | Sargun | My birthday is coming up; anone want to purchase me a night ivsion set? |
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| 21:35.46 | dilvie | photo geeks, I set up a little personalized nikon / strobist gear guide / shop. http://nikonstrobist.com/ |
| 21:36.01 | dilvie | got sick of people asking me all the time what gear I use / recommend |
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| 21:56.15 | Tene | Hey, dilvie... what gear do you use / recommend? |
| 21:56.56 | dilvie | http://nikonstrobist.com/ -- See how well that works? |
| 22:00.05 | Tene | I do! Impressive! |
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