| 00:00.32 | harleypig | <heavy german accent>We're all living in America! America! America! Coca-cola und VunderBra!</heavy german accent> |
| 00:03.56 | eightyeight | du. du hast. du hast mich |
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| 00:22.06 | eightyeight | so, debian isn't a fan of public domain licensing, eh? |
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| 02:41.16 | jackman | good afternoon |
| 02:41.21 | jackman | is everyone dormant? |
| 02:41.49 | levi | Mostly. :) |
| 02:42.27 | jackman | how's it going? |
| 02:42.34 | jackman | I just moved to SLC. |
| 02:42.52 | jackman | It's nice to know that freenode is always near. :) |
| 02:43.10 | Nafai | :) |
| 02:43.18 | Nafai | hates on dnsmasq |
| 02:43.53 | jackman | When is the best time to find activity on #utah? |
| 02:44.18 | Nafai | Seems like all hours |
| 02:44.46 | jackman | ah |
| 02:45.09 | jackman | Am I to understand that this is the meeting place for both PLUG and SLLUG? |
| 02:46.28 | Tene | Yes. |
| 02:47.08 | jackman | From which are you? |
| 02:47.32 | jackman | (It feels like a scene from a bad sci-fi movie. Each time I ask a question, a different voice responds from the dark.) |
| 02:49.07 | jackman | Or are you non-denominational? |
| 02:49.55 | Tene | PLUG a few times |
| 02:49.59 | Tene | Never been to sllug |
| 02:51.16 | levi | I've been to PLUG several times and sllug once, when it was hosted at my former place of employment. :) |
| 02:51.30 | Nafai | I've never been to either |
| 02:52.07 | levi | They can be fun. |
| 02:52.26 | Nafai | Went to FSLC back in the day |
| 02:52.33 | jackman | FSLC? |
| 02:52.42 | levi | I ended up spending a bunch of cash on a Tuxscreen thingy after the SLLUG meeting. :) |
| 02:53.14 | jackman | I haven't been to either, yet. |
| 02:53.15 | Nafai | jackman: Free Software and Linux Club at USU in Logan |
| 02:53.18 | jackman | I work evenings. |
| 02:53.22 | jackman | It's kind of a drag. |
| 02:53.55 | jackman | Nafai: slick. |
| 02:54.45 | jackman | I don't suppose there's any Perl expertise in here? |
| 02:55.11 | Nafai | Yeah, there's a few people around that do Perl |
| 02:55.17 | levi | There usually are a few Perlers. |
| 02:55.17 | Nafai | I stay away from it mostly myself :) |
| 02:56.25 | jackman | Well, I guess no one is biting, so I'll wait for another time. |
| 02:56.47 | jackman | It looks like that PLUG meets at Omniture. |
| 02:57.02 | jackman | I have seen a number of advertisements for jobs at Omniture. |
| 02:57.08 | jackman | Are they anything to brag about? |
| 02:58.35 | levi | The guys who work there that I know seem to like it. |
| 02:58.44 | jackman | oh. |
| 02:58.47 | jackman | I work at ACS. |
| 02:58.51 | levi | Heh. |
| 02:58.58 | levi | I work in the same building. :) |
| 02:59.07 | levi | Assuming you work at the Sandy building, that is. |
| 02:59.10 | jackman | They have a lot of job fairs and stuff, but they usually aren't jobs of which you think fondly. |
| 02:59.18 | jackman | I do. |
| 02:59.24 | jackman | What department are you in? |
| 03:00.05 | jackman | I am in UPS-10/Rapid |
| 03:00.45 | levi | Same building, different company. |
| 03:00.50 | levi | I work for Harman. |
| 03:01.24 | jackman | HMG? |
| 03:01.31 | tristanbob | anyone heard of an email filter that performs a lookup on snopes.com? |
| 03:01.40 | jackman | The one that has all of the access points that don't go anywhere? |
| 03:01.46 | tristanbob | I'd like to install that on many friends computers |
| 03:02.34 | levi | jackman: Well, I work for a different division of the company than HMG, but HMG owns the facility and does our payroll and stuff. |
| 03:02.55 | jackman | 550 East Timpanogos Circle |
| 03:02.59 | jackman | oops |
| 03:03.06 | levi | And yeah, the access point situation is annoying, especially when we have visitors that need net access. |
| 03:03.13 | jackman | tristanbob: The Urban Reference Pages? |
| 03:03.32 | levi | tristanbob: No, but I'd like one! |
| 03:03.49 | tristanbob | levi, yeah, it would be so cool |
| 03:03.54 | Nafai | sighs |
| 03:03.57 | jackman | well, I don't blame the whole limitted access thing. Everyone and their dog has a computer or wireless device at ACS. |
| 03:03.58 | levi | tristanbob: And then I'd like to have it attached to the major web-based email services. |
| 03:04.01 | tristanbob | I always have to reply with a link to snopes |
| 03:04.11 | Nafai | Anyone here have experience with dnsmasq? |
| 03:04.29 | tristanbob | you would think that they would eventually learn to check snopes before sending me crap |
| 03:04.53 | levi | tristanbob: Now people have started sending out crap that says 'I checked this in snopes and it's TRUE!' even though it's not. |
| 03:05.20 | levi | It doesn't take much to outsmart people with their brains turned off. :/ |
| 03:10.40 | jackman | levi: what is it that you do? do you work in a technical position? |
| 03:22.21 | levi | jackman: Yeah, I write embedded software. |
| 03:22.59 | levi | I work for the Harman International Corporate Technology Group, which is a small group that works on new technology that will be utilized by many or all of the Harman brands. |
| 03:24.05 | levi | And we're currently working on making Ethernet AVB a reality, which is pretty fun. I do a good bit of the embedded software work, a couple of more senior guys do protocol work with IEEE, and a couple of guys work on FPGA code. |
| 03:30.28 | jackman | that is awesome |
| 03:30.37 | jackman | I recently had an interview with a company in Salt Lake. |
| 03:30.49 | jackman | They did a lot of embedded systems design and programming. |
| 03:31.18 | jackman | Unfortunately, I didn't get the job. |
| 03:31.32 | jackman | I would love to have been qualified. |
| 03:32.28 | jackman | export CANDIDATE="Ralph Nader" |
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| 03:33.02 | jackman | Aliosa27_: hello. |
| 03:33.50 | jackman | Levi: What kind of education and/or experience does one need to break into your line of work? |
| 03:34.34 | levi | Well, C programming skill is a must. |
| 03:34.53 | jackman | makes sense |
| 03:34.57 | Aliosa27_ | hakuna |
| 03:34.59 | levi | Some experience working with embedded systems. |
| 03:35.14 | jackman | are we talking about personal portfolio or lots of education? |
| 03:36.03 | levi | Well, I got lucky with my job, because my previous employer let me switch over from system administration to programming, and I met my new coworkers while I was working there. |
| 03:36.19 | jackman | that is awesome |
| 03:36.31 | levi | The best way to break into anything is to have the requisite skills and know someone who knows you have them. :) |
| 03:36.55 | jackman | i have tried to break the ice with the programers here at acs, but as a policy, they ask for a BS of CS. |
| 03:37.37 | jackman | do you work during the day? |
| 03:48.28 | Nafai | kicks dnsmasq |
| 03:50.40 | levi | jackman: Yup. |
| 03:51.11 | levi | is a couple of classes away from a BS of CS still. Almost finished! |
| 03:51.29 | levi | I have several years of experience with embedded sofware development, though. |
| 03:56.46 | Aliosa27_ | I have allways had an obsession with the little things..At first , my job had me doing things for some embedded platforms, but they hooked up with a company called imagestream, and i was trapped in x86 land |
| 04:07.37 | levi | x86 is trying to invade embedded-land these days, at least for high-end embedded stuff. |
| 04:08.03 | Nafai | Speaking of jobs, anyone know of anyone that is hiring. I'm a Python/Java/Linux/whatever else kind of guy |
| 04:08.25 | Aliosa27_ | my job is, but the pay sucks |
| 04:08.29 | fozzmoo | Nafai: KnowledgeBlue is always looking for good java people. |
| 04:08.32 | Aliosa27_ | at least for the position |
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| 04:08.58 | Nafai | fozzmoo: What kind of stuff does KB do? |
| 04:09.04 | fozzmoo | Open source business apps |
| 04:09.14 | fozzmoo | A lot of customization of Compiere |
| 04:09.54 | fozzmoo | but also integration with Alfresco, Liferay, Pentaho, and other Java-based business apps. |
| 04:10.16 | fozzmoo | I got all the developers to move to Linux. |
| 04:10.18 | Nafai | I've done a wee bit with Pentaho stuff in the past |
| 04:10.24 | Nafai | That's a bonus |
| 04:10.26 | Aliosa27_ | Powercode<--Looking for a general mysql/php/linux guy |
| 04:11.02 | Nafai | Where is KB located? |
| 04:11.06 | fozzmoo | South Salt Lake |
| 04:11.13 | fozzmoo | About 30th So. and West Temple. |
| 04:11.39 | fozzmoo | Close to The <<<CASTLE OF CHAOS>>> |
| 04:11.42 | Nafai | Tjat |
| 04:11.47 | Nafai | That's a bit of a commute :( |
| 04:11.54 | fozzmoo | Nafai: Yat these daze? |
| 04:13.14 | fozzmoo | Nafai? |
| 04:13.22 | fozzmoo | Where would you be commuting from? |
| 04:17.08 | jackman | Levi: Can I come in and take a look someday or is your workplace as secure as mine? |
| 04:21.13 | Nafai | fozzmoo: I live in Lehi |
| 04:21.24 | Nafai | (Sorry I went downstairs to configure my wife's laptop) |
| 04:21.30 | levi | jackman: They keep things pretty secure at our place, too. |
| 04:21.37 | levi | I live in Lehi as well. |
| 04:22.14 | jackman | ah |
| 04:25.03 | jackman | Levi: To what school are you going? |
| 04:25.09 | levi | jackman: UVU |
| 04:25.45 | jackman | Is the tuition reasonable? |
| 04:26.00 | elg | If UVU ever has another campus by the lake, it could be UVU Lakeside, or UVULA |
| 04:26.07 | jackman | I think the U was something like 13K/yr the last time I checked |
| 04:27.44 | levi | I'm not even sure what full-time tuition comes out to. |
| 04:27.55 | levi | I take about 2 classes per semester in the evening. |
| 04:28.24 | jackman | well, that may be all i can afford if I don't get a better job. |
| 04:28.43 | levi | My job reimburses my tuition. |
| 04:29.15 | levi | But I wouldn't be able to handle the job, my family, and any more classes. It's hard enough to juggle as it is. |
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| 04:56.39 | levi | Speaking of which, my wife just spent the last half hour showing me the scrapbooking she did this evening. |
| 05:14.15 | jackman | sounds like a blast. |
| 05:14.20 | jackman | how long have you been married? |
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| 05:52.23 | levi | 4 years now. |
| 05:52.26 | levi | And now it's time to go to bed. |
| 05:53.55 | jackman | ok |
| 05:53.58 | jackman | thanks for the chat |
| 07:02.06 | Sargun | Can someone tell me what this "internet terrorism" crap is? |
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| 15:19.25 | Jayce^ | found out yesterday that Americas Test Kitchen has a new cookbook... |
| 15:25.00 | levi | Oooh. |
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| 15:25.07 | levi | I love watching that show. |
| 15:31.49 | elg | -chat i love |
| 15:31.50 | brac | i love how some people brought up earlier, and that's what the point is that the kind of information |
| 15:34.57 | elg | I <3 rain |
| 15:35.02 | elg | -metar klru |
| 15:35.04 | brac | KLRU 141532Z AUTO 34015KT 10SM OVC019 11/08 A3012 RMK AO2 |
| 15:35.31 | Jayce^ | levi, elg, tensai the new book is on baking :) http://www.amazon.com/Americas-Test-Kitchen-Family-Baking/dp/1933615222/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1223997658&sr=8-1 |
| 15:35.37 | Jayce^ | costco just got it in, $21.99 |
| 15:36.25 | elg | you read it? |
| 15:36.42 | Jayce^ | just picked it up last night, so have only skimmed for random topics |
| 15:36.53 | Jayce^ | like the first book, if you have that.. |
| 15:36.58 | elg | i'll have to peruse it next time i'm at the bookstore |
| 15:37.25 | elg | i haven't seen/read any america's test kitchen stuff |
| 15:37.50 | Jayce^ | it's pretty straight recipe book.. but some of the best ones I've found.. most proven |
| 15:37.55 | Jayce^ | and easiest to extend |
| 15:39.15 | levi | Man, I just got hit with an awful wave of vertigo. |
| 15:39.26 | levi | It's about gone now, but I was pretty worried for a bit. |
| 15:40.18 | elg | sick? blood sugar? been spinning your chair? |
| 15:43.23 | elg | thinking of harleypig? |
| 15:43.46 | jsmith | levi: Dehydrated? That's usually what does it for me |
| 15:44.52 | levi | I'm sick. Sore throat. |
| 15:45.12 | elg | i occasionally get it where my eyes start wiggling back and forth, which of course makes me dizzy. lasts a few minutes. I think it may be blood sugar related, I just lay down and close my eyes until it goes away |
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| 16:06.06 | Sargun | I like "TIPC" just because of the name. |
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| 16:24.34 | goozbach | just got a weird SMS message |
| 16:24.41 | goozbach | it was completely blank |
| 16:24.46 | goozbach | from a shortcode |
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| 16:29.29 | fozzmoo | http://andyrutledge.com/usagov-redux-fullsize.html |
| 16:29.36 | brac | [USA.gov Redux - Reimagined as under the Obama Administration] |
| 16:29.36 | fozzmoo | That's enjoyable. |
| 16:37.28 | levi | fozzmoo: That's silly and wrongheaded, but whatever. |
| 16:37.57 | fozzmoo | A lot of entertainment is silly and wrongheaded. |
| 17:05.22 | RyanE | meh, I like the donuts and bacon t-shirt better. |
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| 17:47.46 | mrpull | new MBP's are pretty sexy |
| 17:51.27 | mrpull | and it is clever to include notebook power on the new Cinema Displays |
| 17:51.29 | mrpull | nice touch |
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| 19:08.01 | levi | I am so wanting the 13" MacBook now. |
| 19:09.25 | Tene | why? |
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| 19:11.24 | brasto | hey guys, if I want to send all outbound mail to another host, what option do I use in the config file for sendmail or postfix? |
| 19:11.42 | brasto | s/another host/another host for processing/ |
| 19:11.43 | Tene | look for smart host in sendmail.mc |
| 19:12.05 | brasto | Tene: that's 2 words? |
| 19:12.32 | Tene | brasto: I bet you could try searching the various options there in fewer characters than it took me to type this response |
| 19:18.49 | brasto | ok, thx Tene, I found it on my server with sendmail. I had postfix on this computer, so it took me a tiny bit longer than you typing that response :) |
| 19:19.16 | brasto | FallbackSmartHost |
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| 19:36.30 | sjansen | http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/blog/?date=20081014#p01 |
| 19:38.38 | tensai | 7 bits forever! |
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| 19:53.06 | elg | kate fail |
| 19:53.39 | elg | you can set global indentation (none, normal, c-style, etc.) and you can manually make filetypes with whatever setting you want |
| 19:53.58 | elg | but there's no, "turn on indentation when it makes sense and use the kind of indentation that makes sense" |
| 19:54.31 | elg | they have syntax coloring for java, for example. it wouldn't take rocket science to have a default of c-style indentation for java too (of course with the option to not have intelligent autoindent for the wackos out there) |
| 19:54.50 | elg | tells his students to set global indentation to c-style and leaves it at that |
| 19:55.01 | goozbach | ok, so should I stop watching hulu.com because there's an obama '08 ad? |
| 19:55.57 | levi | Why would that make you stop watching hulu.com? |
| 19:59.21 | tensai | levi: he was hoping for an obama '12 ad |
| 19:59.30 | Tene | Because if he watches it, he might get INFECTED |
| 19:59.46 | levi | Oh no, Obama cooties! |
| 20:19.49 | Jayce^ | if anyone is interested, the newer Indian Buffet in Provo is decent... *burp* |
| 20:21.11 | goozbach | anyone here make a pepper sauce before? |
| 20:22.14 | Jayce^ | eg, tabasco-type? or steak sauce type? or what? |
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| 20:28.59 | goozbach | tabasco type |
| 20:29.20 | goozbach | I've got a gallon of habeneros which are going to go to waste if I can't find something to do with them. |
| 20:30.52 | jsmith | goozbach: Put them in a jar in your fridge with some vinegar |
| 20:31.14 | jsmith | goozbach: After a week or two, pour the vinegar over greens, etc. |
| 20:31.24 | jsmith | goozbach: When the vinegar runs out, add more vinegar |
| 20:31.43 | jsmith | goozbach: It's simple, but it works... and it's good. |
| 20:32.10 | goozbach | ohh, kinda like a pickle... |
| 20:32.11 | goozbach | hmm |
| 20:32.16 | goozbach | intriguing |
| 20:33.48 | Jayce^ | in brasil, you take the peppers, and then pour in a mix of Cacha?a (Rum), Sugar, and Oil (vegetable but often olive).. |
| 20:33.51 | Jayce^ | let sit, then use the liquid |
| 20:34.07 | Jayce^ | I have some that have aged over 10 years, some *potent* stuff |
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| 20:37.35 | jsmith | goozbach: Yeah... in the deep south, it's called "pepper sauce" |
| 20:37.54 | goozbach | pepper sauce |
| 20:37.57 | jsmith | goozbach: Some people will add some chili oil to the mix as well, but I find it makes for a muddier flavor |
| 20:38.03 | jsmith | goozbach: Nice descriptive name, isn't it? |
| 20:38.17 | Jayce^ | goozbach, could also just freeze, or dry them.. |
| 20:38.17 | goozbach | hey, wait... I'm *IN* the south |
| 20:38.22 | bonez45 | what happened if I had resolutions like 1024x768 and higher.. but now, those aren't available? my /etc/X11/xorg.conf clearly shows those SHOULD work.. |
| 20:38.34 | Jayce^ | has a couple gallon bags of peppers put up right now |
| 20:39.54 | jsmith | goozbach: Sorry, but Atlanta doesn't count as the South anymore... |
| 20:40.05 | jsmith | goozbach: It's the pseudo-South |
| 20:40.13 | jsmith | goozbach: (kind of like Texas) |
| 20:40.27 | jsmith | expects to have to don his flame-retardant super-hero suit any second now |
| 20:44.22 | Jayce^ | s/suit/underoos/ |
| 20:46.17 | tensai | goozbach: every fall I smoke a bunch of peppers, usually jalapenos. I leave them whole and grind them as needed in my spice (aka coffee) grinder. |
| 20:47.00 | fozzmoo | tensai: Smoking is bad for your health. |
| 20:47.02 | tensai | they last a long time. a gallon of habeneros would probably last a lifetime |
| 20:47.04 | Jayce^ | tensai, my wifes grandmother still complains that the only coffee grinder in our house has a permanent spice flavor in it :) |
| 20:47.09 | tensai | fozzmoo: I never inhaled |
| 20:47.43 | fozzmoo | Ahhh |
| 20:48.08 | tensai | but seriously, be careful not to inhale the fine pepper dust |
| 20:49.05 | bonez45 | anyone? I am running ubuntu.. and now.. can only get 800x600 or 640x480.. how do I restore the higher resolutions? |
| 20:50.02 | fozzmoo | bonez45: I know in Fedora and Red Hat, if you don't have your monitor defined, the GUI configuration wizard only shows you 640x480 and 800x600 |
| 20:50.39 | tensai | if my monitor is off when my machine boots it will only use 800x600. it's doing some kind of probing to enable the higher resolutions. |
| 20:50.55 | tensai | that's a hardy heron box |
| 20:51.33 | bonez45 | fozzmoo: well, I know the section of my xorg.conf contains info about my monitor... |
| 20:51.48 | bonez45 | fozzmoo: mind if I pastebin it to see if I am missing something? |
| 20:52.09 | bonez45 | yeah, I am running hardy heron |
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| 21:04.10 | bonez45 | http://pastebin.ca/1227205 |
| 21:04.18 | bonez45 | fozzmoo: that's my xorg.conf |
| 21:04.44 | fozzmoo | Does Ubuntu have anything like system-config-display? |
| 21:04.54 | fozzmoo | It's been a long time since I messed with xorg.conf |
| 21:04.59 | fozzmoo | Haven't had to, ya know. |
| 21:05.09 | goozbach | meh, just use X -configure |
| 21:05.32 | sjansen | system-config-display is where it's at, man |
| 21:05.34 | fozzmoo | bonez45: Have you looked at the X log output? |
| 21:05.51 | fozzmoo | That may provide some clues as to why certain modes are not being allowed. |
| 21:05.54 | bonez45 | fozzmoo: it has System | Preferences | Screen Resolution |
| 21:06.28 | bonez45 | fozzmoo: would that be /var/log/x something? |
| 21:06.57 | fozzmoo | Yeah- or if you're running X with 'startx' you can say 'startx 2> /tmp/X.out' or something like that. |
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| 21:07.22 | bonez45 | I am running gdm with gnome.. |
| 21:07.28 | bonez45 | how could I output it? same way? |
| 21:08.02 | fozzmoo | Then it's probably being logged already- in a file under /var/log |
| 21:08.26 | Tene | /var/log/Xorg.0.log or some cuh |
| 21:08.32 | bonez45 | fozzmoo: I get this > (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found) |
| 21:08.42 | bonez45 | I think that may be from when I attempted to run compiz |
| 21:15.26 | bonez45 | http://pastebin.ca/1227218 |
| 21:15.41 | bonez45 | fozzmoo: thanks for your help.. here's a pastebin of my Xorg.0.log |
| 21:16.18 | fozzmoo | bonez45: I've got to take off... but maybe some other #utah'er can help. |
| 21:16.21 | fozzmoo | good luck. |
| 21:16.24 | bonez45 | ok.. thanks |
| 21:16.31 | bonez45 | tene? ideas? |
| 21:16.34 | bonez45 | could you take a look? |
| 21:23.45 | bonez45 | anyone? |
| 21:26.49 | unum | http://www.aeroxp.org/2008/10/introducing-windows-7/ <- it seems ms can't count |
| 21:28.45 | levi | Much ado about nothing. |
| 21:28.54 | levi | Who cares how they version their OS releases? |
| 21:29.23 | unum | bonez45: are using nv or nvidia |
| 21:29.43 | tensai | they long ago abandoned version numbers. why should we expect them to conform now? |
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| 21:33.06 | bonez45 | unum: not sure.. the video system on the mobo is VIA.. Chrome 9 |
| 21:33.32 | unum | have you pasted you xorg.conf somewhere? |
| 21:34.03 | bonez45 | yes.. |
| 21:34.16 | bonez45 | http://pastebin.ca/1227205 |
| 21:35.14 | markl__ | they should use fibonacci numbers for releases |
| 21:35.32 | markl__ | bonez45: what is your symptom? |
| 21:35.39 | Tene | bonez45: here's the biggest troubleshooting step: |
| 21:35.50 | Tene | first run 'init 3' to kill X and go down to the console |
| 21:35.56 | Tene | then log in there and run 'X -configure' |
| 21:35.56 | mrpull | unum: the output of ver in windows vista says |
| 21:36.03 | markl__ | markl__: use the scroll buffer @#$^$@ |
| 21:36.06 | Tene | That will generate a new autogenerated xorg.conf in /root/xorg.conf.new |
| 21:36.07 | mrpull | version 6.0.6000 |
| 21:36.17 | Tene | And will show oy ua command to test it: X -config /root/xorg.conf.net |
| 21:36.20 | bonez45 | markl_I can only run at 800x600.. or 640x480... |
| 21:36.24 | Tene | Run that to test if it works |
| 21:36.25 | markl__ | bonez45: what card do you have? |
| 21:36.35 | markl__ | e.g. from lspci |
| 21:36.37 | bonez45 | VIA Chrome 9 |
| 21:36.39 | Tene | If so, copy it over your old config: cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 21:36.48 | Tene | Then start X again: init 5 |
| 21:36.50 | bonez45 | ok... |
| 21:37.03 | bonez45 | I'll print all this out and then run it.. |
| 21:37.17 | markl__ | is it gutsy or hardy |
| 21:38.33 | bonez45 | hardy |
| 21:38.50 | bonez45 | Tene: is that it then? |
| 21:39.01 | bonez45 | run through that and see if it gets me back the full range of resolutions? |
| 21:39.09 | Tene | bonez45: yes |
| 21:39.13 | bonez45 | ok.. |
| 21:40.08 | markl__ | bonez45: did you configure the via driver in xorg? |
| 21:40.22 | markl__ | this is suse but it might help: http://en.opensuse.org/VIA |
| 21:40.39 | Tene | markl__: he's currently using vesa. X should detect the right driver for him with my instructions. |
| 21:40.54 | bonez45 | markl_I didnt' manually configure it.. though I think xorg automatically did.. |
| 21:41.05 | bonez45 | ok. back in a bit |
| 21:41.28 | markl__ | i don't trust X -configure but sometimes it works |
| 21:41.34 | markl__ | certainly worth a try |
| 21:42.25 | markl__ | "back in my day we used to hand edit modelines. and we liked it!!!!" |
| 21:46.46 | bonez45 | Tene: I ran this in a console, but it didn't shut down ctlr-alt-F7 and upward.. what did I miss? |
| 21:47.11 | Tene | bonez45: maybe I'm mistaken about how to turn off X in ubuntu |
| 21:47.20 | Tene | harasses ubuntu people ot come help bonez |
| 21:48.21 | bonez45 | I guess i could ctlr-alt-backspace to go to console, right? |
| 21:48.27 | bonez45 | that would take me there.. |
| 21:48.32 | bonez45 | and shut down the gui |
| 21:48.35 | Tene | X will probably just come back up |
| 21:48.51 | bonez45 | I'll try this anyway.. |
| 21:51.26 | markl__ | killall gdm |
| 21:51.37 | markl__ | is what i use to shut off the gui |
| 21:52.32 | tensai | /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 21:53.03 | tensai | http://bitcast-a.bitgravity.com/spacex/2008/launches/falcon1_flight4_highroller.mov |
| 21:53.20 | Tene | -chat tensai |
| 21:53.20 | brac | tensai had a rough flax like material from what the case |
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| 22:07.35 | Tene | http://jbotcan.org/what_xkcd_did_for_lojban.png -- entertaining |
| 22:10.42 | levi | Heh, yay for lojban. :) |
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| 22:15.03 | Tene | says more about xkcd than it does about lojban. |
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| 22:23.33 | eightyeight | what's in #net? |
| 22:23.47 | tensai | not rick_k :) |
| 22:23.52 | eightyeight | heh |
| 22:28.38 | levi | On the contrary, rick_k is the only one in #net now. |
| 22:29.23 | eightyeight | he found the / |
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| 22:35.13 | elg | this is amusing. http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/press_releases/OpenOffice_3.0.html |
| 22:35.22 | brac | [NeoOffice.org welcomes OpenOffice.org to the Mac OS X community] |
| 22:35.31 | elg | translation: "we're scrambling to continue to seem relevant" |
| 22:35.50 | eightyeight | #net is empty now :( |
| 22:36.05 | jsmith | elg: Uh, yeah... OOo 3 seems to work quite well on my MAc |
| 22:36.25 | elg | i just managed to get it downloaded, haven't tried it yet |
| 22:37.05 | elg | but having not been overly impressed with neooffice - certainly doesn't seem faster than ooo on linux |
| 22:37.24 | elg | ooo3 would have to be seriously unstable to underperform neooffice |
| 22:38.01 | elg | wait, are you teasing me? don't you run linux on your mac? ;-) |
| 22:38.02 | eightyeight | i thought it already was |
| 22:38.39 | eightyeight | (seriously unstable) |
| 22:38.53 | elg | relatively speaking, of course |
| 22:41.29 | eightyeight | relative from a computer point of view |
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| 22:42.40 | bonez46 | Tene: I tried that.. but I got errors about Via.. |
| 22:42.49 | bonez46 | let me see if I can find them, and paste here.. |
| 22:43.32 | elg | not that it's not possible that neooffice is still more stable than ooo3, but i would expect that gap to rapidly close |
| 22:43.33 | bonez46 | (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found) |
| 22:43.58 | bonez46 | somehow my xorg.conf is trying to loaod nvidia something, when it's not nvidia.. it's Via... |
| 22:44.37 | eightyeight | elg: but yeah. neooffice should nowfocus their energy on ooo3 |
| 22:44.49 | tensai | elg: "Change this error message for exceptions thrown outside of an action (like in Dispatcher setups or broken Ruby code) in public/500.html" |
| 22:44.57 | tensai | elg: when trying to post a comment |
| 22:45.04 | elg | hm |
| 22:45.10 | elg | on my blog I assume |
| 22:45.13 | tensai | yes |
| 22:45.19 | elg | what kind of comment were you trying to post?! |
| 22:45.30 | tensai | racially insensitive |
| 22:45.34 | elg | probably a terrorist comment. your comment has been forwarded to the NSA |
| 22:46.37 | elg | maybe you had something that confused the markup? can you paste it somewhere? |
| 22:46.39 | elg | or did you lose it? |
| 22:47.20 | elg | i see two in here from ou |
| 22:47.28 | tensai | I tried twice :) |
| 22:47.35 | elg | marked as possible spam - maybe that's what gave you the 500 |
| 22:47.40 | tensai | ah |
| 22:47.47 | elg | are they the same? |
| 22:47.55 | tensai | yeah |
| 22:48.20 | elg | there we go |
| 22:48.53 | tensai | I suppose it's not the most in-depth comment I've ever posted |
| 22:50.13 | elg | i think it'll happen tonight |
| 22:50.25 | markl__ | bonez46: does your xorg.conf say Driver "via" |
| 22:50.28 | elg | as soon as i finish grieving over never having a longish hairstyle |
| 22:50.38 | markl__ | sounds like it is saying Driver "nvidia" or "nv" |
| 22:50.51 | elg | my brother had one (not ponytail long, but long enough to drive my parents batty) and it looked really cool |
| 22:51.01 | elg | but mine will never look cool long, now |
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| 22:53.33 | elg | well, unless maybe i do it like http://personnel.physics.ucla.edu/directory/faculty/index.php?f_name=becklin |
| 22:58.35 | tensai | elg: more like this: http://blag.ipood.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/1367190265_cc651c6d67.jpg |
| 23:02.58 | elg | then i would have to scowl all the time |
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| 23:17.05 | bonez46 | Tene finally figured it out.. my system wanted to be running 'openchrome' to work right.. |
| 23:18.43 | Tene | Huh. Okay. |
| 23:18.47 | Tene | Glad you got it working. |
| 23:22.25 | bonez46 | wow.. that took a while.. but I am determined.. |
| 23:23.05 | bonez46 | at 1400 x 1050, it fits everything I need on the screen... and drives my boys and wife nuts.. trying to see what's on here.. |
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