| 00:01.51 | maquis | mrpull-x: tell them that you expect it to be free |
| 00:03.11 | mrpull-x | the person who booked it mispelled my name. otherwise they would have known from my hilton honors profile that i wanted no smoking. |
| 00:03.43 | mrpull-x | it was a group booking or i would have stayed at my normal home away from home. |
| 00:04.01 | mrpull-x | every time i've stayed here i've had something that irked me. |
| 00:04.14 | mrpull-x | but nothing like this one. |
| 00:25.01 | maquis | my back hurts like crazy |
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| 01:18.00 | lukfugl | fugue88 = eightyeight = atoponce? |
| 01:18.10 | fugue88 | No, someone else. |
| 01:18.12 | lukfugl | k |
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| 01:24.47 | lukfugl | welcome back, ibot |
| 01:24.56 | lukfugl | ~botsnack |
| 01:24.56 | ibot | aw, gee, lukfugl |
| 01:25.38 | mrpull-x | lukfugl: yeah. unfortunately i think i could predict the next sentence of both candidates |
| 01:25.58 | lukfugl | mrpull-x: frequently, yeah |
| 01:26.02 | mrpull-x | why does brokaw just cut these guys off? |
| 01:26.06 | mrpull-x | TIME! |
| 01:26.09 | lukfugl | s/does/doesn't/? |
| 01:26.22 | jsmith | fugue88: Not the Dave Owen I know, right? The one that likes to work on lasers? |
| 01:26.46 | mrpull-x | crappy hotel bandwidth screwing with my typing |
| 01:26.58 | lukfugl | sure, blame the bandwidth ;) |
| 01:27.00 | mrpull-x | youd think ssh wouldn't lag so bad |
| 01:27.07 | fugue88 | jsmith, I don't think so. |
| 01:27.57 | jsmith | fugue88: Ah well, it was worth a shot. Just so you know, there's another guy in SLC named David Owen, and he's doing some amazing things with lasers :-) |
| 01:28.42 | mrpull-x | fugue88: take credit |
| 01:33.07 | fugue88 | Who's debating tonight, McCain and Obama? |
| 01:33.10 | lukfugl | yeah |
| 01:33.26 | fugue88 | Any good audio feeds? |
| 01:33.58 | fugue88 | Nevermind, c-span's got it. |
| 01:36.28 | lukfugl | fox also |
| 01:37.58 | lukfugl | good job, brokaw |
| 01:40.52 | undertakingyou | amen |
| 01:41.51 | mrpull-x | does mccains's coat look like it isn't cut right? |
| 01:42.04 | mrpull-x | how much did that thing cost? it looks funny. |
| 01:42.16 | lukfugl | it's cause he can't raise his arms, because of old injuries |
| 01:42.45 | mrpull-x | lukfugl: well now i feel like an ass :) |
| 01:43.02 | lukfugl | no, it's ok if you didn't know :) |
| 01:43.15 | mrpull-x | i'll refrain from making fun of bob dole's pen hand |
| 01:46.23 | mrpull-x | wait... the government invented computers? |
| 01:46.33 | lukfugl | yeah, I was just discussing that with my wife |
| 01:46.42 | lukfugl | I think he meant the internet |
| 01:47.19 | lukfugl | but also, the first mainframes were heavily influenced by defense spending, even if they weren't exclusively government |
| 01:48.08 | mrpull-x | i was wondering where the red yellow green lights from years past were |
| 01:48.13 | undertakingyou | Yeah, I think he meant the internet. Not his first blunder |
| 01:48.28 | mrpull-x | i agree he intended to say internet |
| 01:48.36 | mrpull-x | but Gore invented that |
| 01:48.39 | lukfugl | heh |
| 01:48.49 | undertakingyou | ha |
| 01:49.30 | lukfugl | huh, they're both left handed, at least appear to be |
| 01:49.41 | lukfugl | now I *know* we can't trust them |
| 01:50.07 | undertakingyou | amen, where is Ross Perot? |
| 01:50.30 | lukfugl | no, we can't trust a ferengi in the white house any more than we can a south paw |
| 01:50.43 | undertakingyou | lol |
| 01:52.51 | lukfugl | why do the candidates insist on turning the questions into chances to recite talking points rather than answering the bloody question? |
| 01:53.12 | undertakingyou | they are politicians before they are candidates. |
| 01:55.00 | undertakingyou | times up mccain |
| 01:55.15 | lukfugl | just yellow so far... |
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| 02:11.43 | mrpull-lt | doh. don't blow your quote mccain. |
| 02:17.39 | mrpull-lt | when did this lose it's town hall feeling? when was the last question from the crowd? (maybe i'm not paying close enough attention) |
| 02:19.56 | lukfugl | bingo! |
| 02:20.04 | lukfugl | on putin |
| 02:24.01 | undertakingyou | yes or no, that is a long yes or no. |
| 02:24.11 | lukfugl | maybe it was an acronym |
| 02:24.31 | lukfugl | for affirmativearoonie, or something |
| 02:24.36 | undertakingyou | ahh . ..:) |
| 02:25.39 | lukfugl | hopes for some straight answers on this one |
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| 02:27.47 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 02:27.56 | lukfugl | -chat elg was |
| 02:27.57 | brac | elg was listening to audio analysis lots of output from 'core show channels' of course using code already in yum I'm doing is using 5060? |
| 02:28.16 | elg | ~onjoin elg -chat if only |
| 02:28.16 | ibot | elg: ok |
| 02:28.32 | lukfugl | -chat ~onjoin elg |
| 02:28.32 | brac | ~onjoin elg -chat because sjansen is a bit of time. |
| 02:28.32 | ibot | brac: ok |
| 02:28.51 | lukfugl | -chat onjoin lukfugl |
| 02:28.52 | brac | onjoin lukfugl |
| 02:28.56 | lukfugl | -chat ~onjoin lukfugl |
| 02:28.57 | brac | ~onjoin lukfugl *my* cat can eat your perls |
| 02:28.57 | ibot | brac: ok |
| 02:28.58 | elg | -chat ~onjoin lukfugl |
| 02:28.58 | brac | ~onjoin lukfugl The irssi will be revealed in the sense that I wrote it in there somewhere |
| 02:28.58 | ibot | ok, brac |
| 02:29.07 | elg | -chat ~onjoin sjansen |
| 02:29.07 | brac | ~onjoin sjansen http://www.kabalarians.com/Male/stuart.htm |
| 02:29.07 | ibot | ok, brac |
| 02:29.54 | lukfugl | oh, I liked the cat and perls |
| 02:30.07 | lukfugl | -chat ~onjoin lukfugl |
| 02:30.08 | brac | ~onjoin lukfugl The basics, including how to deal with it nor dislike it because nobody can snoop it |
| 02:30.08 | ibot | brac: ok |
| 02:30.16 | elg | watching the debate? |
| 02:30.18 | lukfugl | blech |
| 02:30.22 | lukfugl | -chat ~onjoin lukfugl |
| 02:30.22 | brac | ~onjoin lukfugl *my* cat can eat it after it already |
| 02:30.22 | ibot | ok, brac |
| 02:30.24 | lukfugl | yeah |
| 02:30.28 | mrpull-lt | repeat the question? |
| 02:30.40 | elg | -chat do you |
| 02:30.40 | brac | do you just do 1:1 NAT, either. |
| 02:31.29 | lukfugl | mrpull-lt: "what don't you know, and how are you going to learn it" |
| 02:31.32 | undertakingyou | I think he must have meant world there. |
| 02:31.48 | elg | or than america |
| 02:32.11 | elg | i shoulda thunk to come backchannel earlier |
| 02:32.13 | undertakingyou | Um, I don't think he has answered the question yet. |
| 02:32.15 | elg | has it been boring? |
| 02:32.21 | lukfugl | anyone have a chess clock verdict on mccain v. obama |
| 02:32.24 | lukfugl | elg: mostly |
| 02:32.38 | elg | lukfugl: they both go over by at least 30 seconds almost without fail |
| 02:32.42 | elg | sometimes they are within the two minutes |
| 02:33.02 | lukfugl | yeah, I'm just curious if one has been stealing more overage than the other |
| 02:33.23 | elg | does throwing out unsubstantiated bald-faced lies that require rebuttal count as stealing? |
| 02:33.34 | lukfugl | good question |
| 02:33.40 | undertakingyou | lol |
| 02:34.45 | lukfugl | poor tom |
| 02:34.51 | lukfugl | they stood in front of his script |
| 02:34.53 | mrpull-lt | and you are in front of my script |
| 02:34.54 | mrpull-lt | hahaha |
| 02:35.00 | mrpull-lt | couldn't adlib it? |
| 02:35.13 | undertakingyou | that is the big take away from this debate: "Poor Tom" |
| 02:35.23 | lukfugl | -chat poor tom |
| 02:35.23 | brac | poor tom |
| 02:35.46 | lukfugl | -chat maccain |
| 02:35.46 | brac | maccain is |
| 02:35.50 | lukfugl | -chat mccain |
| 02:35.50 | brac | mccain did |
| 02:35.53 | lukfugl | bah |
| 02:35.58 | lukfugl | -chat obama |
| 02:35.59 | brac | obama had much desire to develop LinuxBIOS for this guy. :) |
| 02:36.11 | lukfugl | that sounds like a good reason to vote for him |
| 02:36.24 | lukfugl | -chat vote for |
| 02:36.24 | brac | vote for Ron Paul drop-in? |
| 02:36.24 | Heartsbane | What? |
| 02:36.27 | lukfugl | lol |
| 02:36.31 | elg | at least tom tried to moderate |
| 02:36.40 | undertakingyou | true. |
| 02:37.17 | elg | -chat mccain had |
| 02:37.17 | brac | mccain had $0 from PACs. |
| 02:37.22 | lukfugl | riiiight |
| 02:37.25 | elg | -chat obama did |
| 02:37.25 | brac | obama did |
| 02:37.31 | elg | -chat fred is |
| 02:37.31 | brac | fred is |
| 02:37.32 | lukfugl | ugh, I hate this fox13 commercial |
| 02:37.40 | elg | -chat obama went |
| 02:37.41 | brac | obama went |
| 02:37.44 | elg | -chat obama is |
| 02:37.44 | brac | obama is the revision crap |
| 02:37.49 | elg | -chat mccain is |
| 02:37.49 | brac | mccain is one of the tablets firmware cannot be inherited just by having to cut over. |
| 02:37.57 | elg | hooray for pbs. no commercials. only talking head |
| 02:37.58 | elg | s |
| 02:38.36 | lukfugl | once in a lifetime? |
| 02:38.39 | lukfugl | I like that song |
| 02:38.55 | lukfugl | also "burning down the house" |
| 02:40.13 | lukfugl | yeah, so opinions on "government buys bad loans and renegotiates them"? |
| 02:44.02 | eightyeight | no relation to fugue88 |
| 02:44.12 | levi | is in the middle of watching the debates right now. |
| 02:57.17 | mrpull-lt | i'm still on the fence about twitter, but election.twitter.com has been fun tonight |
| 02:59.41 | mrpull-lt | ah man, i was driving distance away from dining with sexy sarah |
| 02:59.42 | mrpull-lt | http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/07/palin_watching_debate_at_nc_pi.html |
| 02:59.44 | brac | [Palin Watching Debate at N.C. Pizzeria | The Trail | washingtonpost.com] |
| 03:02.04 | levi | Heh. |
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| 03:08.54 | brac | okay then :) |
| 03:08.54 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 03:09.23 | elg | -chat because sjansen |
| 03:09.24 | brac | because sjansen is back to the state blew $20 million on Name-Your Cost Album ;; RealPlayer Zero-Day Flaw Under Attack. |
| 03:09.26 | lukfugl | -chat brac: help |
| 03:09.26 | brac | brac: help |
| 03:09.34 | elg | -chat help me |
| 03:09.35 | brac | help me to say, they likely didn't understand the language it's in? |
| 03:09.44 | elg | -chat if i |
| 03:09.45 | brac | if i capture the output isn't nearly as much fun as IFC |
| 03:09.51 | lukfugl | -chat presidential candidates |
| 03:09.51 | elg | -chat your dog |
| 03:09.52 | brac | presidential candidates to just f*!k off and puts a little tireder |
| 03:09.52 | brac | your dog unchi. that'd be cool. |
| 03:10.11 | elg | -chat i think |
| 03:10.12 | brac | i think it's time for me |
| 03:10.15 | lukfugl | -chat yo mama |
| 03:10.15 | brac | yo mama |
| 03:10.18 | tensai | unchi = poo, btw |
| 03:10.22 | elg | ~onjoin elg -chat i think |
| 03:10.22 | ibot | ok, elg |
| 03:10.32 | elg | -chat tensai is |
| 03:10.32 | brac | tensai is obviously delusional. |
| 03:10.39 | tensai | obviously |
| 03:10.44 | elg | i think that's obvious |
| 03:11.12 | elg | shall i make the requested whole wheat cinnamon raisin bagelbominations tomorrow, or sourdough plain sesame? |
| 03:11.37 | Sargun | COOKIE. |
| 03:12.02 | lukfugl | sourdough sesame |
| 03:12.11 | lukfugl | bagelbominations make me sad |
| 03:12.31 | elg | did i tell you about my bagles? turned out real hip |
| 03:13.32 | lukfugl | no, you didn't |
| 03:13.36 | lukfugl | my brother doesn't love me |
| 03:13.57 | elg | i did. i mostly followed joe pastry but that king arthur recipe is wacked. it's like 70% hydration - way too wet for bagels |
| 03:14.22 | lukfugl | you told me you were going to try them, that is. just not how they turned out (until now) |
| 03:14.22 | elg | i'm going to use http://www.sourdoughhome.com/sourdoughbagels.html tonight |
| 03:14.28 | brac | [Sourdough Home - Sourdough Bagels] |
| 03:14.34 | elg | nice. kind of ugly but that's just technique |
| 03:14.37 | elg | tasted really nice |
| 03:14.46 | elg | crispy and chewy like they tell me they should be |
| 03:14.54 | lukfugl | yeah, I made a round boule of sourdough bread last night. came out pretty good |
| 03:14.58 | lukfugl | also ugly, but tasty |
| 03:15.12 | lukfugl | though I don't think I let it rise enough in the second rise, it was a bit dense |
| 03:15.20 | lukfugl | but the flavor and the crust were spot on |
| 03:17.21 | lukfugl | question: if gnome-terminal (or irssi, if that's the case) can recognize a link to give me a "open link" item in the right click context menu, why won't it let me just left click on it? |
| 03:17.55 | elg | that would be blasphemous |
| 03:18.06 | lukfugl | and my start is finally starting to get a discernable flavor |
| 03:18.07 | elg | a troll would emerge from the depths of the kernel and eat the developers if they did that |
| 03:18.38 | lukfugl | it rose just fine before, formed a sponge and all that, but there wasn't much lactic acid producing bacteria or something |
| 03:18.47 | lukfugl | but now it's finally starting to get some kick |
| 03:19.49 | elg | erin says to tell you you're crazy - those pancakes are the bestest |
| 03:20.14 | lukfugl | I think it was probably mostly technique |
| 03:20.32 | lukfugl | and differing tastes on cakiness |
| 03:21.11 | lukfugl | I'm not a fan of cake in general, and am quite happy when my pancakes are *not* fluffy |
| 03:21.58 | mrpull-lt | anyone here think McCain's "that one" phrase has racial overtones? i cant imagine he'd consciously do that... and the RNC is reinforcing the "that one" phrase |
| 03:23.00 | lukfugl | I don't think it was at all racial |
| 03:23.38 | lukfugl | es |
| 03:23.53 | mrpull-lt | lukfugl: i didn't think so either. scanning the commentary on election.twitter.com many self proclaimed people of color are taking offence. |
| 03:24.01 | lukfugl | erm, tupid touch pad |
| 03:24.23 | mrpull-lt | dunno if they are pot stirrers / hypersensitive / or genuine |
| 03:24.25 | lukfugl | and stupid one handed typing |
| 03:25.25 | mrpull-lt | lukfugl: "one hand typing" conjures disturbing images just about anywhere other than #utah |
| 03:25.38 | lukfugl | sorry |
| 03:25.47 | lukfugl | baby in the other hand |
| 03:25.58 | mrpull-lt | i shouldn't have said that :) |
| 03:26.12 | lukfugl | she's hungry, but mom's in the shower |
| 03:26.34 | mrpull-lt | how old she? |
| 03:27.18 | lukfugl | just over 7 weeks |
| 03:27.35 | mrpull-lt | congrats! that is the best and worst of times. |
| 03:27.51 | Sargun | baby formula. |
| 03:30.04 | elg | no, he already has the baby |
| 03:30.21 | elg | i think we agree about cakiness |
| 03:31.12 | elg | though it's not the cakiness so much as the "fluffiness", i.e. the dry syrup-hungry peanut butter on the roof of your mouth feel you get from ihop and fireman's breakfasts |
| 03:31.36 | elg | we don't want tortillas, we want moist |
| 03:34.55 | lukfugl | agreed |
| 03:34.59 | lukfugl | oh, he left |
| 03:43.11 | levi | David Brooks just drives me nuts. |
| 03:48.20 | Supaplex | yeah, ego enviromentalists play very lousy country music |
| 03:49.09 | Supaplex | jk btw ;) |
| 03:52.00 | levi | Hmm. I don't get it... is there a musician named David Brooks, too? |
| 03:52.51 | Supaplex | well, sounds plausable. |
| 04:01.04 | tensai | does david brooks make dry pancakes? |
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| 04:10.43 | levi | No, he just blinks, shakes his head, and gesticulates madly. |
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| 04:45.32 | Sargun | did you know that California's legislator warned against the laws that prohibited these questionable trades? |
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| 05:12.24 | brac | i think the best way to search google for 'The Swine Before PERL talk) |
| 05:13.55 | Supaplex | hurmm |
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| 05:31.17 | brac | i think I meant a higher level? |
| 05:31.35 | elg | well here's an oddity |
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| 05:31.48 | brac | i think that's the first digit, then stop at 450°. get it tonight, there's no great need to post this to grow. |
| 05:32.03 | elg | well here's an oddity, an mp3 stream stuffed in a wav file |
| 05:32.09 | elg | $ file foo.mp3 |
| 05:32.09 | elg | foo.mp3: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, MPEG Layer 3, stereo 12000 Hz |
| 05:32.33 | elg | started out foo.wav, I just renamed it to see if I could convince other apps to like it |
| 05:36.00 | fozzmoo | And 'file' fell for the extension change trick?! |
| 05:36.15 | fozzmoo | I mean, it rightly identified it as RIFF WAV audio.... |
| 05:36.22 | elg | no, file said the same both times |
| 05:36.24 | fozzmoo | But what's up with the MPEG layer 3 crap? |
| 05:36.28 | fozzmoo | Weird. |
| 05:36.30 | elg | it's mp3 data in a wav file |
| 05:36.34 | elg | wacked out |
| 05:36.45 | elg | quicktime, mplayer, other sofisticated tools handle it ok |
| 05:36.49 | elg | sox, lame, etc. don't |
| 05:37.08 | elg | finally got the mp3 stream in a proper mp3 container using ffmpeg |
| 05:37.17 | elg | ffmpeg -i foo.wav -acodec copy foo.mp3 |
| 05:43.05 | eightyeight | who is the byu uug mailing list contact? are they in this channel? |
| 05:43.24 | eightyeight | i know i've subscribed, but i can't seem to edit my mailing list options |
| 05:45.07 | eightyeight | cancel that. wasn't subbed |
| 06:00.25 | Tene | I guess I'm having an allergic reaction to something. |
| 06:00.44 | Supaplex | reality |
| 06:00.54 | Tene | I've been itching a lot, and getting little welts that itch even more. |
| 06:02.14 | Supaplex | -excuse |
| 06:02.15 | brac | Hash table has woodworm |
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| 12:11.54 | brac | i think using dtterm is working ... much *MUCH* more of an idea as to web accessibility it is far and above my ability to still run SCO? |
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| 12:40.57 | eightyeight | unum: still using thunderbird? i found a setting you may be interested in |
| 12:41.34 | eightyeight | in the config editor: "mail.check_all_imap_folders_for_new" -> true |
| 12:41.40 | eightyeight | this has been bugging me for some time |
| 12:43.49 | goozbach | -chat and then |
| 12:43.49 | brac | and then you're using here for |
| 13:02.14 | eightyeight | -chat the purpose of |
| 13:02.15 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 13:02.25 | eightyeight | -chet of using |
| 13:02.28 | eightyeight | meh |
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| 13:21.14 | brac | i think you need zaptel? |
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| 13:46.12 | brac | i think that any of the filesystems to help your employee catch up on this system... here's the digg front page of "MARK" messages in it |
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| 13:53.29 | bonez46 | is there a way to share printers, using ipp, or otherwise, across two different LANs? I have two at my home.. two different IP's.. I want to share resources between systems on each IP |
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| 13:58.20 | elg | a vpn |
| 13:59.14 | elg | if you have a public ip on either/both ends you can probably share a printer with ipp that way, but you'd want to think about security so you don't get printerspam |
| 13:59.22 | bonez46 | elg: suggestion? on which to install? |
| 13:59.31 | elg | for a vpn? openvpn |
| 13:59.35 | bonez46 | yeah, I get enough spam still so I dont' want to add to that |
| 13:59.42 | bonez46 | ok.. |
| 14:00.33 | elg | the tutorial covers how to set up a simple passphrase-based vpn, which is probably good enough for what you need |
| 14:01.09 | bonez46 | ok,, I'll install on a box on each network..and see how it goes |
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| 14:14.32 | bonez46 | I attempted to run apt-get update.. and then ~ install openvpn, but I get errors saying nothing is updating. I get email coming in but nothing going out.. if I ping out, to anywhere, I get unknown host, for any address/IP |
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| 14:29.08 | elg | sounds like you have network problems |
| 14:32.31 | elg | lots of depressing patent news today |
| 14:32.48 | elg | osx dock and tivo pause/rewind tv |
| 14:33.14 | eightyeight | heh. today's wtf was awesome |
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| 14:56.13 | Sargun_Screen | you're wtfrcking awesome. |
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| 15:24.57 | unum | eightyeight: thanks |
| 15:25.27 | eightyeight | np |
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| 15:41.28 | brac | i think this is driving through Las Cruces for another 8.5 hours |
| 15:43.46 | elg | cool, stop by and visit |
| 15:44.31 | tensai | I thought brac was already in las cruces |
| 15:44.43 | tensai | and did the judge give him his license back? |
| 15:48.33 | harleypig | http://qdb.us/155550 |
| 15:48.34 | brac | [QDB: Quote #155550] |
| 15:48.48 | Jayce^ | who let harleypig back on qdb? |
| 15:48.52 | harleypig | http://qdb.us/245012 |
| 15:48.54 | brac | [QDB: Quote #245012] |
| 15:48.56 | harleypig | heh |
| 15:49.06 | harleypig | I snuck back in :P |
| 15:49.10 | elg | tensai: apparently, if it takes him 8.5 hours to drive through cruces then he's definitely below speed limit |
| 15:49.32 | elg | and yes, he is in las cruces already. he'd better not be driving around though |
| 15:51.23 | levi | This is a fun story: http://blog.danielwellman.com/2008/10/real-life-tron-on-an-apple-iigs.html |
| 15:52.31 | harleypig | Have you seen the trailer for Tr2n? |
| 15:52.39 | levi | Nope. |
| 15:53.24 | levi | Also: WTF, Microsoft?! http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/10/video-microsoft.html |
| 15:54.10 | goozbach | damn you harleypig |
| 15:54.22 | goozbach | I had quit bash.org when it went offline |
| 15:54.31 | harleypig | http://teaser-trailer.com/2008/07/tr2n-trailer-tron-2-better-version.html |
| 15:54.40 | harleypig | goozbach: but this isn't bash ... :> |
| 15:55.01 | goozbach | harleypig: no, but qdb made me check and see if bash.org was back online. |
| 15:55.03 | goozbach | guess what... |
| 16:01.31 | harleypig | It is? wow ... It wasn't the last time I checked. |
| 16:05.48 | harleypig | dangit ... there goes the morning. |
| 16:18.15 | goozbach | yah thanks |
| 16:18.24 | goozbach | I think I just closed the tab |
| 16:18.28 | goozbach | yay! I'm free! |
| 16:18.37 | harleypig | heh |
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| 16:42.26 | fozzmoo | http://engrishfunny.com/2008/10/08/engrish-seriously-dont/ |
| 16:50.30 | sjansen | http://www.zazzle.com/donuts_and_bacon_taste_we_can_believe_in_blue_shirt-235503205979919999 |
| 16:52.36 | fozzmoo | sjansen: Nice. |
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| 16:58.37 | Jayce^ | I must have that shirt :) |
| 16:58.59 | RyanE | That's funny... |
| 16:59.06 | fozzmoo | Yes. It is desirable on many levels. :) |
| 17:01.09 | elg | not as desirable as real bacon |
| 17:01.23 | fozzmoo | Well, what is? :) |
| 17:04.59 | elg | maybe sausage |
| 17:05.35 | RyanE | no way. sausage = soggy, bacon = crispy. Both flavorful, but texture wins. |
| 17:05.45 | Tene | agrees with RyanE. |
| 17:06.07 | elg | it's so much easier to get crispy sausage than crispy bacon |
| 17:06.15 | elg | that isn't overcooked |
| 17:06.20 | elg | bacon is hard to get just right |
| 17:09.35 | Jayce^ | nah, just start with a good product, and it's easy to get right |
| 17:09.53 | goozbach | and broil your bacon! |
| 17:09.56 | goozbach | tasty! |
| 17:10.07 | goozbach | make bacon mats! |
| 17:10.26 | goozbach | http://www.seriouseats.com/2007/06/photo-of-the-day-bacon-mat.html |
| 17:15.51 | Sargun_Screen | here here, get your tasty bacon balls. |
| 17:16.34 | elg | how do you identify good bacon? |
| 17:17.37 | Jayce^ | elg, the best is to get real *dry cured* |
| 17:17.43 | Jayce^ | amazingly better.. |
| 17:17.50 | Jayce^ | thicker, not packed with water/ice |
| 17:18.01 | Jayce^ | doesn't shrink and pop so much |
| 17:18.08 | Jayce^ | not as greasy |
| 17:18.37 | elg | do you have to go off the beaten path to find it? |
| 17:19.09 | Jayce^ | not really |
| 17:19.21 | goozbach | elg: not really, you do have to pay more most of the time. |
| 17:19.36 | Jayce^ | but even if you don't do dry cured, if you pay that bit extra for thicker, quality bacon, you'll taste the difference |
| 17:19.42 | Jayce^ | but the curing makes a huge difference |
| 17:20.07 | JoshH | goozbach, check this version out: http://images.dr3vil.com//files3/30/baconweave.jpg |
| 17:20.09 | Jayce^ | costco sometimes carries some dry cured, but their thick stuff is good |
| 17:20.15 | elg | well i try to pick out quality bacon but haven't really been learned how to tell. of course they all say "premium" etc. but who can believe labelnig |
| 17:20.20 | JoshH | i'd pay to watch someone finish that whole thing |
| 17:20.47 | Jayce^ | some farmers markets have it too... |
| 17:20.59 | Jayce^ | goozbach probably has access to some good old smokehouse ones there in the south :) |
| 17:22.02 | elg | it's blasphemous I know, but our biggest problem is part of the bacon going bad before we use it all |
| 17:22.02 | Jayce^ | elg, basically, look at the thickness -thicker is better, how wet it is in the package (water and ice) - water is bad, fat content - not too much, but you need a bit |
| 17:22.02 | elg | i guess you can probably freeze it |
| 17:22.02 | Jayce^ | you can |
| 17:22.20 | Jayce^ | I always cook up the whole package, and it get's used... |
| 17:22.20 | JoshH | butcher shops are the best places to buy good bacon. my dad gets it from circle v meats in spanish fork, and it's the best i've ever had anywhere |
| 17:22.35 | Jayce^ | also look at the additives in the bacon, the more there are, the less good it is :) |
| 17:22.47 | Jayce^ | JoshH, CircleV is great for a lot of stuff |
| 17:23.23 | Jayce^ | needs to go back there again |
| 17:23.39 | harleypig | Jayce^: that's the one in Payson? |
| 17:23.40 | Jayce^ | buying a cow this month from a local farmer... *gooooood* beef |
| 17:23.43 | Jayce^ | harleypig, yeah |
| 17:23.52 | Jayce^ | don't you buy there normally now too? |
| 17:24.05 | goozbach | http://www.applegatefarms.com/Products/Details.aspx?ProductID=191 |
| 17:24.06 | harleypig | Yeah, I can just never remember the name. |
| 17:24.15 | harleypig | we only buy half a cow every 6 months, and a pig. |
| 17:24.33 | Sargun_Screen | no goats? |
| 17:24.52 | harleypig | I'm not really interested in eating a goat. |
| 17:25.16 | Jayce^ | harleypig, what's their pig price now? |
| 17:26.56 | Jayce^ | http://www.mredepot.com/servlet/the-461/Yoder%E2%80%99s-Celebrity-Canned-Bacon/Detail |
| 17:27.04 | Jayce^ | canned bacon, stuff is crazy good actually |
| 17:28.18 | wps | div#course_info { |
| 17:28.18 | wps | } |
| 17:28.24 | wps | gives you this: http://herlo.dev.anavidesign.com/ |
| 17:28.28 | brac | [|] |
| 17:28.46 | wps | sorry for the flood |
| 17:28.52 | wps | accidently changed tabs and pasted in the wrong channel |
| 17:29.23 | Jayce^ | elg, and to really do it right, cook that bacon in cast iron |
| 17:29.34 | elg | oh i do |
| 17:35.52 | RyanE | We got our family pet from Circle V. Actually, from my aunt who lived across the street from them in Spanish Fork. Any stray from miles around would turn up at her door because of Circle V. :) |
| 17:36.20 | RyanE | No collar, but already trained. Best Dog Ever. |
| 17:45.18 | Jayce^ | RyanE, often are.. |
| 18:00.09 | levi | Winder Farms smoked bacon FTW. |
| 18:05.10 | harleypig | Jayce^: I dunno ... my mom handles that part of it ... I do know we pay about $750 every 6 months for the half cow and pig. |
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| 18:30.16 | elg | steals tensai's bacon |
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| 18:56.06 | levi | It's funny to watch the extreme libertarians and the extreme liberals argue it out on reddit. |
| 18:57.34 | high_roller | reddit is just funny |
| 18:57.38 | jalbretsen | I'm still thinking Jack Bauer is our only hope |
| 18:59.28 | elg | the doctor is our only hope |
| 19:01.41 | jalbretsen | or Baltar |
| 19:02.13 | Tene | or Palin |
| 19:04.59 | elg | how does preorder on amazon work? does it ship on the release day or do they ship it so you get it on the release day? |
| 19:06.24 | Tene | ARGH. github-- |
| 19:06.42 | Tene | I just had to scroll through ALL of my tabs to find out which one was playing a flash video |
| 19:06.45 | levi | I've never preordered anything there. |
| 19:06.58 | levi | But I think you get it on release day. |
| 19:07.07 | Tene | Github is having some kind of maintenance issue, so they put up a youtube video on their error page. |
| 19:07.18 | levi | Weird. |
| 19:07.22 | Tene | I'm just glad that I only had one github page saved in my session. |
| 19:11.04 | elg | looks like release-day shipping is available only on some items |
| 19:11.06 | elg | and costs more |
| 19:11.38 | elg | drat. so now I still have to decide if saving $10 on amazon is worth a 5 day wait (or saving $3 is worth a 2-day wait) |
| 19:11.58 | levi | What are you waiting for the release of? |
| 19:12.03 | elg | mistborn 3 |
| 19:12.14 | levi | What's that? |
| 19:12.29 | elg | the third book in the mistborn series :-p |
| 19:12.34 | elg | brandon sanderson |
| 19:12.37 | levi | Ahh, okay. |
| 19:12.46 | levi | You going to read his Wheel of Time book? |
| 19:12.48 | elg | good reading. if you downloaded all the tor titles a while back, book 1 is in there |
| 19:13.01 | elg | probably not, unless someone vouches for it to stand on its own. |
| 19:13.02 | levi | Unfortunately, I only grabbed a few. |
| 19:13.10 | elg | i grabbed them all :) |
| 19:13.21 | levi | I don't recall which I grabbed, either. |
| 19:13.35 | elg | i actually grabbed books 1 & 2 from the library though |
| 19:14.36 | levi | My wife must have closed the laptop lid, so I can't ssh to it to see which I got. |
| 19:14.41 | levi | I *might* have grabbed it. |
| 19:15.04 | levi | But I don't think I was in a fantasy mood at the time. I did grab Scalzi's "Old Man's War", which was fun. |
| 19:16.18 | Tene | That was a lot of fun. |
| 19:16.35 | levi | Bummer, netflix is going to add a Blu-ray surcharge. |
| 19:17.04 | elg | someday i can care about stuff like that |
| 19:17.04 | levi | Only $1/mo, but it makes me just a little less interested in getting a Blu-ray player. |
| 19:17.43 | elg | $1/mo isn't that bad |
| 19:17.52 | levi | Yeah. |
| 19:18.02 | elg | if I had already shelled out for an hdtv and blu-ray player I wouldn't balk at that |
| 19:18.21 | levi | In reality, my lack of desire to get Blu-ray has much more to do with the $$$ price of a Blu-ray player. |
| 19:18.46 | levi | I'd much rather save up for a new laptop. |
| 19:18.54 | levi | Or a new turbo for my car. |
| 19:19.48 | levi | I barely even watch standard def DVDs these days. |
| 19:20.27 | elg | i know the feeling |
| 19:20.54 | elg | i started thinking yesterday I ought to adjust my queue now so we get some kind of halloweenish movie around halloween time |
| 19:22.40 | levi | I've been thinking I should just cancel netflix. ;) |
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| 19:33.59 | Tene | http://flickr.com/photos/12928926@N06/2794865157/ -- cute |
| 19:37.06 | tensai | elg: we roll all our bacon and then freeze it. http://www.zmonkey.org/blog/node/106 |
| 19:37.19 | tensai | wasting bacon is bad for karma |
| 19:38.10 | elg | cool |
| 19:40.40 | elg | whoa |
| 19:40.44 | elg | is it cold outside? |
| 19:40.51 | elg | http://blogs.computerworld.com/new_linux_broadcom_wi_fi_drivers_arrive |
| 19:40.56 | elg | s/cold/snowing/ |
| 19:44.31 | tensai | nice. maybe I can get 2.6 for my openwrt now. |
| 19:44.51 | tensai | if I want wireless I have to stick to 2.4 so the binary driver will run |
| 19:46.21 | elg | what do you want to do with a 2.6 kernel? |
| 19:48.43 | tensai | I was just pondering that. I can't remember. there was something though. |
| 19:49.25 | elg | you'd probably implement file sharing over dns |
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| 19:50.42 | sjansen | http://dave.fumberger.com/2008/10/08/cisco-networks-new-album/ |
| 19:50.54 | elg | i guess that link was a little old |
| 19:50.59 | elg | pays the timeliness penalty |
| 19:52.39 | tensai | elg: it's dated yesterday |
| 19:53.23 | elg | oh. i saw "and should be added to Ubuntu 8.04" and thought it was old |
| 19:54.18 | elg | so 8.10 comes out october 30? /me wonders how long until they fail to make a release month |
| 19:54.39 | elg | 9.05 and 9.11? |
| 19:54.39 | JoshH | they always release on time, and fix the major bugs later |
| 19:54.53 | elg | oct 30 is just barely "on time" |
| 19:55.12 | goozbach | http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3170411 the coolest thing you'll see all day |
| 19:55.12 | JoshH | true |
| 19:55.31 | Tene | goozbach: http://flickr.com/photos/12928926@N06/2794865157/ |
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| 20:09.24 | ^Migs^ | http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/08/nebraska.safe.haven/index.html |
| 20:09.30 | brac | [Nebraska law lets parents abandon teens - CNN.com] |
| 20:10.53 | Sargun | nifty |
| 20:12.13 | Sargun | elg, I implemented file sharing over DNS! |
| 20:12.30 | elg | i bet you used a 2.6 kernel |
| 20:12.38 | Sargun | :'-( |
| 20:21.31 | harleypig | Hmmm ... maybe I need to take a trip to Nebraska |
| 20:22.41 | high_roller | if nothing else you can point this out to your kids and threaten them with it |
| 20:23.02 | high_roller | "you better start behaving, or we are taking a road trip to nebraska |
| 20:23.58 | elg | good thing it's nebraska, not california or hawaii |
| 20:24.11 | harleypig | or alaska |
| 20:25.00 | harleypig | Of course, there's always the tried and true method of going on a vacation to a foreign country and losing them there. |
| 20:25.19 | harleypig | Though I suppose it's hard to hide the money ... |
| 20:26.18 | elg | ~hide harleypig |
| 20:26.19 | ibot | ACTION gets a huge black sheet and covers harleypig with it so that nobody can see what harleypig is doing! |
| 20:26.44 | harleypig | ... |
| 20:27.04 | elg | ~reveal harleypig |
| 20:27.12 | harleypig | hopes no one notices the hot chick |
| 20:27.25 | harleypig | elg: that's a dangerous command. |
| 20:27.33 | harleypig | You sure you want me revealed? |
| 20:32.01 | sjansen | ~makeharleypigstop |
| 20:32.43 | goozbach | ~makethebadmanstop |
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| 20:33.29 | brac | i think my ears in it |
| 20:33.43 | elg | -chat imagine harleypig |
| 20:33.43 | brac | imagine harleypig in a coma. |
| 20:34.08 | elg | -chat sjansen in |
| 20:34.08 | brac | sjansen in a stroke of genious |
| 20:34.56 | elg | -chat Jayce^ with |
| 20:34.57 | brac | Jayce^ with a nice equivalent of fflush |
| 20:36.05 | goozbach | -chat elg isn't |
| 20:36.06 | brac | elg isn't mailing so much latency |
| 20:36.16 | goozbach | -chat goozbach isn't |
| 20:36.16 | elg | yes, i'm keeping it for myself now |
| 20:36.19 | brac | goozbach isn't |
| 20:36.35 | goozbach | -chat went and |
| 20:36.37 | sjansen | -chat elg's harpsichord |
| 20:36.37 | brac | went and manually install each driver? |
| 20:36.37 | brac | elg's harpsichord |
| 20:36.42 | elg | goozbach isn't never doing no isn'ts |
| 20:36.55 | elg | -chat goozbach isn't |
| 20:36.55 | brac | goozbach isn't never doing any firewalling |
| 20:37.00 | goozbach | -chat done and |
| 20:37.00 | brac | done and in spite of CD burning i have root |
| 20:37.01 | elg | bravo |
| 20:37.35 | sjansen | -chat elg bought a deer stand to |
| 20:37.36 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 20:38.49 | sjansen | -chat elg made creme brulee with |
| 20:38.49 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 20:39.05 | elg | -chat elg baked |
| 20:39.05 | brac | elg baked |
| 20:39.10 | elg | -chat sjansen ate |
| 20:39.10 | brac | sjansen ate |
| 20:39.22 | sjansen | -chat elg got baked smoking |
| 20:39.22 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 20:39.29 | elg | two-word pairs |
| 20:39.53 | elg | -chat markov chains |
| 20:39.53 | brac | markov chains to generate random numbers, call rand(). Easy! ;) |
| 20:39.57 | sjansen | -chat elg attempted to impose boring conformism by |
| 20:39.57 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 20:45.15 | elg | -chat poor sjansen |
| 20:45.16 | brac | poor sjansen |
| 20:45.21 | levi | Hmm, the market graph looks kind of like a noisy sine wave today. |
| 20:45.23 | Tene | -chat sjansen licked |
| 20:45.24 | brac | sjansen licked |
| 20:46.03 | elg | early voting in nm has begun |
| 20:46.22 | levi | I believe it's begun here, too. |
| 20:48.35 | levi | http://citationmachine.net/ |
| 21:15.33 | sjansen | -chat obama won |
| 21:15.33 | brac | obama won |
| 21:15.50 | sjansen | -chat mccain won |
| 21:15.51 | brac | mccain won |
| 21:16.05 | sjansen | -chat elg voted |
| 21:16.05 | brac | elg voted |
| 21:16.15 | sjansen | -chat brac mumbled |
| 21:16.16 | brac | brac mumbled |
| 21:16.24 | elg | -chat and the |
| 21:16.24 | brac | and the kids said that unencryptedly. If I'm going to fail over to another bottle, since the rich one with all the same server and do nothing. but at least gave the right thing, I pitch and drinking. |
| 21:16.31 | elg | -chat the winner |
| 21:16.33 | brac | the winner and Zurg the "runner-up"! |
| 21:17.07 | sjansen | -chat brac lost |
| 21:17.07 | brac | brac lost |
| 21:17.29 | sjansen | -chat palin exploded |
| 21:17.29 | brac | palin exploded |
| 21:17.36 | goozbach | -chat too many |
| 21:17.36 | brac | too many parameters, but still nothing concrete, sorry. You're welcome to the numerical protocol id for a long time) that you can't rent a van, assassination , NSA, wiretaps, sleeper cell, suicide bomb, vest, Oklahoma City, Waco, revenge, anthrax, virgins, fuse, great celebration, July 4th, detcord, martyr, timer, backpack, subway |
| 21:17.39 | sjansen | -chat palin and |
| 21:17.39 | brac | palin and |
| 21:17.46 | sjansen | -chat show offs |
| 21:17.46 | brac | show offs |
| 21:17.52 | goozbach | -chat the thing |
| 21:17.53 | brac | the thing is, that's they way they do, but I didnt i ? "yes" : "no"; |
| 21:18.07 | harleypig | -chat Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra |
| 21:18.08 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 21:18.15 | goozbach | -chat thing is |
| 21:18.15 | harleypig | feh |
| 21:18.15 | brac | thing is that caller id matched what was the best |
| 21:18.22 | sjansen | -chat carnivore fodder |
| 21:18.22 | brac | carnivore fodder |
| 21:18.29 | sjansen | -chat sleeper cell |
| 21:18.29 | brac | sleeper cell |
| 21:18.31 | goozbach | ~carnivore |
| 21:18.32 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, carnivore is essentially a Windows 2000 based packet sniffer and set of filters that the FBI uses |
| 21:18.40 | harleypig | -chat Darmok Jalad Tanagra |
| 21:18.40 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 21:18.41 | goozbach | ~carnivorefodder |
| 21:18.44 | harleypig | wtf? |
| 21:18.52 | goozbach | -chat Jalad Tanagra |
| 21:18.52 | sjansen | -chat Dr. Who |
| 21:18.52 | brac | Jalad Tanagra |
| 21:18.52 | brac | Dr. Who set. |
| 21:19.02 | goozbach | -chat Darmok Jalad |
| 21:19.08 | sjansen | -chat Star Trek |
| 21:19.09 | brac | Darmok Jalad |
| 21:19.10 | brac | Star Trek was all about getting kicked out of it that every undergrad class to date, be sure you're checking out the carbs on my dads main opinion is dialup isn't an option for sort and sort it out because SOME aol user sends me spam. when I have |
| 21:19.18 | sjansen | -chat Dalek Khan |
| 21:19.19 | brac | Dalek Khan |
| 21:19.37 | harleypig | oh ... it has to be just two words. |
| 21:20.01 | harleypig | -chat bite me |
| 21:20.01 | brac | bite me later |
| 21:30.01 | elg | -chat youa re |
| 21:30.02 | brac | youa re listening to, you're likely to help tripzero and looking for a laugh. |
| 21:30.10 | elg | -chat you are |
| 21:30.11 | brac | you are stil dating 2 more than 10 minutes later... |
| 21:38.16 | goozbach | ~babby |
| 21:38.17 | ibot | from memory, babby is http://www.somethingawful.com/flash/shmorky/babby.swf |
| 21:46.17 | harleypig | ~badger |
| 21:46.18 | ibot | http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/ |
| 21:46.24 | brac | [Badger Badger Badger.com! The Original Dancing Badgers!] |
| 21:46.24 | harleypig | ~technobadger |
| 21:58.38 | harleypig | So, I watched White Noise 2 last night because Nathan Fillion was in it. |
| 21:58.50 | harleypig | He shoulda stayed on the Firefly. |
| 21:59.08 | harleypig | though, I suppose everyone has to work. |
| 22:05.33 | harleypig | http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/mysql-founding-father-sails-sunset |
| 22:05.58 | elg | what's a firm mdsah? |
| 22:06.54 | harleypig | These guys built this product up into a gigantic and going concern, and Sun expects them to fit into their mold ... I should think they've put in their chops ... a little leeway should be given. *sigh* |
| 22:07.00 | harleypig | elg: Yeah, I wondered that myself. |
| 22:16.54 | Tene | harleypig: http://www.somethingawful.com/flash/shmorky/babby.swf |
| 22:31.11 | synic | what in the world |
| 22:48.44 | elg | http://www.lrb.co.uk/v21/n01/suth01_.html |
| 22:52.53 | elg | heh. http://improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volume2/v2i5/howto.htm |
| 22:58.36 | harleypig | Tene: yeah, I saw that earlier ... very weird. |
| 23:16.51 | levi | elg: A misspelling of firm mdash, maybe? |
| 23:17.03 | elg | likely |
| 23:47.05 | levi | Ah. 'firm' is meant to be a noun, i.e. 'his firm', and it's supposed to be followed by &mdash. The author is clearly fond of the mdash. |
| 23:49.10 | Sargun | what about ndash? |
