| 00:20.10 | levi | upgrades his mythtv box and hopes it doesn't die. |
| 00:29.00 | Sargun | ScytheBlade1, Cisco TAC is fucking incompetent. |
| 00:29.14 | Sargun | Additionally, why aren't you in #juniper ? :-) |
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| 01:00.11 | levi | Sargun: Er, language. :) |
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| 03:08.02 | mosesport | Fuck John McCain |
| 03:09.32 | goozbach | mosesport: what's all that about? |
| 03:17.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Sargun_Screen: because I do almost all of my routing either with linux or openbsd on generic/special hardware, not on juniper devices? :) |
| 03:30.35 | nick125 | mmmh |
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| 03:49.05 | tensai | rule #1, don't rely on javascript input validation |
| 03:50.50 | goozbach | ouch |
| 03:51.22 | goozbach | rule #2, make sure you have your javascript auto-refresh set to a longish period |
| 03:51.45 | goozbach | 200 requests/second from ONE ip address because of a broken .js |
| 03:51.56 | tensai | d'oh |
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| 08:06.01 | fozzmoo | levi: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/17/beck.wallstreet/index.html |
| 08:10.23 | fozzmoo | http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/15375/?ck=1 |
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| 09:09.38 | tristanbob | Cisco scoops up Jabber |
| 09:09.39 | tristanbob | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10046327-16.html |
| 09:16.34 | goozbach | it'd be nice to sleep |
| 09:48.49 | Sargun | Oh, god. |
| 09:48.59 | Sargun | goozbach, No worries, I'm not doing any better. |
| 09:49.11 | Sargun | I officially pissed off the Cisco TAC though |
| 09:59.03 | Tene | http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2008/918/2 -- political attitudes linked to fear response |
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| 14:36.24 | levi | fozzmoo: Did you miss my explanation about why blaming the CRA for the current crisis was completely idiotic? |
| 14:38.44 | levi | fozzmoo: Look at it this way. Pre-1992, banks *did not want to* make sub-prime loans. The CRA forced them to make some loans they *did not want to* make. |
| 14:39.52 | levi | fozzmoo: The problem is that there was a huge, massive demand for mortgage-backed securities from investors looking for somewhere to put their money. And the banks ran out of good mortgages to create their mortgage-backed securities from. |
| 14:41.09 | levi | fozzmoo: So, completely of their own accord, banks started turning to sub-prime mortgages to meet that demand. The lack of desire to make loans to poor people disappeared *because of market forces*, not because of the CRA. |
| 14:42.06 | levi | Color me unsurprised that Glenn Beck took the naive, Democrat-blaming tack in his article. :P |
| 14:44.18 | levi | And color me completely, utterly unsurprised that you fell for it hook, line, and sinker despite my previous explanation. |
| 14:44.56 | levi | Now, I'll agree with him on the point that the problem was not limited to the policies of a single party. |
| 14:45.50 | levi | Both of them gave in to the deregulation lobbies of Wall Street, which created things like the completely unregulated Credit Debt Swap market that took down AIG. |
| 14:47.45 | levi | The sort of garbage that Warren Buffet described as "financial weapons of mass destruction" back in 2002. |
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| 19:34.00 | v4mpire | anyone here that ued to have a bnc from gv-hosting.com / gv-hosting.co.uk ? |
| 19:34.39 | v4mpire | near end of last year |
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| 22:38.27 | Lone_Wanderer | ~chain yes |
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