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| 00:32.14 | ambeestar | poke to people who are in here. |
| 00:32.52 | Sargun | Ouch, that hurt |
| 00:32.55 | Sargun | respect my feelings |
| 00:34.09 | ambeestar | *soft prod* |
| 00:35.27 | Sargun | much better. |
| 00:35.34 | Sargun | A massage would be more appropriate. |
| 01:22.43 | fozzmoo | ambeestar: Hi ambeestar |
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| 01:46.51 | levi | Yo. |
| 01:49.37 | levi | Uh oh, the LHC had a 30 ton transformer break. |
| 01:53.09 | fozzmoo | Miniature black holes inside the transformer? |
| 02:00.14 | Tene | *sigh* |
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| 02:15.00 | levi | Wow, SEC intends to temporarily ban all short-selling. |
| 02:20.15 | jsmith | levi: That's a step in the right direction :-) |
| 02:40.37 | xvalentinex | have the videos from OSCON been posted? |
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| 03:04.05 | fozzmoo | xvalentinex: http://www.opensourcetv.tv |
| 03:04.16 | fozzmoo | Oh OSCON? I dunno. |
| 03:04.56 | xvalentinex | Thanks fozzmoo, the keynotes have been posted to opensourcetv. Maybe I just need to be more patient. |
| 03:05.11 | fozzmoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:05.20 | fozzmoo | we are releasing 2/week, starting with keynotes. |
| 03:06.25 | levi | http://www.dmagazine.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?nm=Core+Pages&type=gen&mod=Core+Pages&tier=3&gid=B33A5C6E2CF04C9596A3EF81822D9F8E& |
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| 04:30.23 | Sargun | I wonder where they got this transformer from: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jb-KYaSJaMqYK4MtY2C2FmcmOl2QD939CCSG0 |
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| 05:43.40 | Keighvin | Howdy. |
| 05:44.15 | Sargun | .ydwoH |
| 05:45.25 | Keighvin | ?eb ot gniog s'ti woh s'taht oS |
| 05:45.39 | Sargun | !puy |
| 05:45.49 | Sargun | .hctib |
| 05:46.20 | Keighvin | I'll stop myself from saying something horrible. |
| 05:46.23 | Sargun | -_- |
| 05:48.44 | Keighvin | So, Seattle's nice. It has yet to really rain since I got here ~3 weeks ago, but it's finally in the forecast. |
| 05:50.44 | levi | It's funny to see how all the different media groups characterize Anonymous's hacking of Palin's Yahoo email account. |
| 05:51.36 | Keighvin | Of course. |
| 05:51.37 | levi | O'Reilly called them an extreme leftist hate group. The Guardian calls them an anti-Scientology group. |
| 05:52.17 | Keighvin | I love that someone's actually made that association. |
| 05:52.29 | Keighvin | Given that the one has absolutely nothing to do with the other. |
| 05:52.58 | Sargun | Keighvin, did you prod maquis? |
| 05:54.29 | levi | gawker.com got it about right, 'Anonymous, the fun-loving Internet trouble-makers based loosely around the message board 4Chan' |
| 05:55.02 | Keighvin | Not officially, no. |
| 05:55.25 | Sargun | uhm |
| 05:55.34 | levi | Seattle is cool. My parents live a bit south of there, and my brother is in the area too. |
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| 05:59.31 | Keighvin | I grew up in Edmonds, just happen to have spent the last decade out of town. |
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| 13:30.47 | herlo | yarr, good morning mateys! http://www.talklikeapirate.com/tlapd08.html |
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| 14:53.12 | mrpull | ARRRRRrrrrrr |
| 14:54.15 | mrpull | The original (and best) pirate geek joke ever: http://tinyurl.com/4qfdk3 |
| 14:54.42 | goozbach | image unavalible |
| 14:54.46 | goozbach | that's HI |
| 14:54.49 | goozbach | FREAKING |
| 14:54.55 | goozbach | LARIOUS! |
| 14:55.02 | mrpull | goozbach: stupid flickr |
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| 14:55.36 | mrpull | http://www.flickr.com/photos/7510955@N05/440004911/ |
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| 14:56.33 | goozbach | http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=xx-pirate |
| 14:56.52 | mrpull | "me likes an' dislikes" is the best |
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| 15:06.09 | unum | does anyone know where to look for queued messages in postfix? |
| 15:07.51 | goozbach | unum: mailq |
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| 15:08.51 | unum | goozbach: thanks |
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| 15:21.29 | neybar | avast, me hearties! |
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| 15:33.03 | eightyeight | unum: or postqueue |
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| 15:54.54 | Supaplex | *yawn* |
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| 16:06.11 | levi | Good morning, #utah. |
| 16:10.31 | levi | Or, I should say, avast, me hearties! |
| 16:12.30 | goozbach | avast! |
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| 16:23.31 | elg | i really don't know how I got by without quilt all these years |
| 16:23.40 | elg | is it ye pirate talk day? |
| 16:24.14 | levi | Aye, ya scurvy bilge rat! |
| 16:27.53 | levi | Ye be talkin' like a pirate or ye be walkin' th' plank! Arrrrrr! |
| 16:28.48 | levi | Heh: http://scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=359 |
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| 17:00.06 | elg | ~pirate goozbach |
| 17:00.07 | ibot | ACTION illegally downloads goozbach and shares goozbach with all his friends |
| 17:05.08 | neybar | that sounds dirty ibot... :) |
| 17:11.09 | ^Migs^ | these are the creepiest "retouches" I've ever seen: http://pageantphotoretouching.homestead.com/retouch4a.html |
| 17:11.52 | levi | Holy crap, talk about uncanny valley. |
| 17:12.06 | neybar | shivers |
| 17:12.32 | levi | Turned a cute little girl into a scary magazine cover doll. |
| 17:12.42 | mrpull | creepy |
| 17:12.54 | mrpull | and unnecessary |
| 17:13.08 | levi | And the eyelashes... |
| 17:14.03 | levi | The worst part is the eyes, though. |
| 17:14.08 | levi | Totally fake-looking. |
| 17:14.25 | levi | And you just can't screw up the eyes and have a believable picture. |
| 17:15.22 | ^Migs^ | this one doesn't even look like the kids: http://pageantphotoretouching.homestead.com/retouch5.html |
| 17:15.27 | ^Migs^ | *kid |
| 17:15.48 | levi | Ow. |
| 17:30.57 | fozzmoo | Wow. A perfect analogy. |
| 17:31.28 | fozzmoo | Working with Java web applications... it's a lot like driving on a 2-lane highway behind a tractor. |
| 17:35.34 | ^Migs^ | you may be driving a cadillac, but it's still behind a tractor |
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| 17:57.26 | ^Migs^ | http://static.flickr.com/29/44753311_a9270c41ac_o.jpg |
| 17:58.15 | RyanE | Arrrr. Me matey uses thar keybaaaard... |
| 17:59.02 | neybar | Avast! Rrrrr |
| 18:02.30 | elg | fozzmoo: are you saying that java is a powerful tool without which we would all starve? |
| 18:07.11 | fozzmoo | I'm saying that right now I feel the same way about working with Java web apps as I do when I'm behind a slow-moving tractor. |
| 18:11.21 | elg | you heard it here first folks. fozzmoo is anti-agriculture |
| 18:11.45 | fozzmoo | Oh, and I watched the first two episodes of Fringe last night. I like it. |
| 18:19.00 | ^Migs^ | been meaning to watch that |
| 18:19.05 | ^Migs^ | my friend said the acting is really stale |
| 18:19.45 | tensai | elg: we should have a contest to see who can take a comment the furthest out of context |
| 18:20.20 | goozbach | tensai was talking about taking something out... GROSS! |
| 18:20.54 | elg | tensai: it is election season after all |
| 18:21.57 | tensai | elg: funny, that's what I was thinking too |
| 18:25.13 | levi | Speaking of which, I think it's insane how McCain is trying to pin the mortgage crisis on Obama. Passing legislation to make lenders do loans they don't want to do in no way explains the recent insatiable desire for mortgages on the market. Clearly, once that desire appeared above, lenders changed their tune on lending to poor people all of their own accord. |
| 18:26.22 | Sargun_Screen | java is pretty cool for chinese retards |
| 18:26.47 | Sargun_Screen | retards is even too good of a term for outsourced chinese code |
| 18:28.44 | levi | It's not a partisan problem, it's a government corruption problem, and both parties are campaigning against corruption right now. :P |
| 18:38.04 | fozzmoo | It's really an accountability problem. |
| 18:38.17 | fozzmoo | And nobody, in govt or otherwise, wants to be accountable. |
| 18:39.42 | levi | Well, there's no single point to place the blame, either. |
| 18:40.28 | levi | But pointing at something that is so obviously *not* the problem is sad. |
| 18:41.31 | high_roller | mortgage companies just needed to learn to say no |
| 18:42.06 | high_roller | and loan officers needed to stop inflating people's incomes |
| 18:42.09 | levi | high_roller: Say no to whom? The guys calling them and saying, "So, we're ready to buy a bunch more mortgages... got 'em ready?" |
| 18:42.45 | high_roller | levi: true, but over all I have no idea what they were thinking |
| 18:43.03 | levi | They were thinking, "This is crazy, but everyone else seems to be doing it..." |
| 18:43.07 | high_roller | did they really believe that someone that makes 50k a year could afford a 500,000 dollar mort. |
| 18:43.30 | high_roller | maybe they thought they could get out of it before it all came crashing down |
| 18:44.00 | levi | Well, a lot of the people getting those kinds of loans were flippers. And a lot of people did that, and made a ton of money as the bubble grew. |
| 18:44.34 | high_roller | my bro in law was one of them |
| 18:45.15 | high_roller | cept he got caught with a few properties when it came crashing down in Las vegas |
| 18:45.18 | levi | The mortgage companies that originated the loans were tiny ones, mostly, that were created by the demand for mortgages at banks to sell upstream. |
| 18:45.47 | levi | They made massive profits by selling the most expensive loans they could and then passing all the risk upstream. |
| 18:46.02 | levi | I think they're total scumbags. |
| 18:46.43 | levi | Once you start moving upstream, though, things get less black & white. |
| 18:47.53 | elg | sometimes pink |
| 18:48.15 | levi | The guys at the very top were swindled as much as the ones at the very bottom, and the ones in the middle were often only doing slightly shady things in order to meet immense market demand. |
| 18:48.34 | high_roller | yea, I new a few of those people too |
| 18:48.42 | high_roller | selling 1 year ARMs |
| 18:48.44 | high_roller | etc. |
| 18:49.20 | levi | Things were simply too complex and not visible enough to the market. |
| 18:49.41 | levi | Markets only perform properly when there's visibility as to what's actually going on, and how much risk there really is. |
| 18:50.45 | levi | The fact is, buyers of the top tranches of mortgage-backed CDOs had the assurance of very smart people that they were extremely safe investments. |
| 18:54.14 | levi | There were failures in the system all over the place. Failures to insure that people would actually be able to repay their loans. Failure to recognize that property doesn't *always* go up in value. Failure to properly analyze the risk in CDOs. Failure to use existing rules to prevent the big investment bankers from leveraging too deeply. |
| 18:55.15 | levi | All the failures were directly resulting from greed and corruption caused by the insane amounts of money looking for a place to be invested. |
| 18:58.55 | high_roller | well we all make mistakes |
| 18:59.12 | elg | not ibot |
| 18:59.22 | high_roller | sometimes markets just gotta reset - it sucks, but it happens |
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| 19:00.57 | fozzmoo | Ewww... Dell tech support live chat kills firefox3 every time. |
| 19:01.05 | findlay | hello |
| 19:01.15 | findlay | ~dell fozzmoo |
| 19:01.15 | ibot | Dude! fozzmoo's getting a dell! |
| 19:01.37 | nick125 | Too bad nobody makes good laptops these days. |
| 19:02.11 | goozbach | nick125: lenovo still does |
| 19:02.33 | nick125 | goozbach: mmh, I've heard that Lenovo's quality is going WAY down. |
| 19:03.07 | goozbach | of course my lenovo laptop is still an "IBM" |
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| 19:03.45 | nick125 | like, they've got rid of the solid metal backing on the keyboards, so they flex a bit now. |
| 19:04.47 | goozbach | ewww |
| 19:04.59 | nick125 | supposely, it was done to save weight |
| 19:05.01 | goozbach | I like to pick up my laptop by a corner and lug it around |
| 19:05.24 | goozbach | I have a T61 so I'm not too concerned abt weight |
| 19:05.58 | fozzmoo | Well, even though FF3 and FF2 kept crashing, I managed to stay connected long enough to get an answer to my question. |
| 19:06.02 | nick125 | I'd rather have 5oz of extra weight and a good keyboard. |
| 19:06.03 | fozzmoo | Kudos to Dell support for being on the ball. |
| 19:06.19 | fozzmoo | I needed to know how to reset a powerconnect 5448 to factory defaults from the serial console. |
| 19:06.34 | fozzmoo | too bad they didn't include that in the manual PDF |
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| 19:24.59 | unum | so I realized today that my data copying efforts last night took forever because my join statements were wrong |
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| 21:01.40 | tensai | http://weheartit.com/images/20080913043158.jpg |
| 21:08.23 | harleypig | I don't understand why a restaurant would refuse to sell an item in a smaller container for the same price it would have been in the bigger container. |
| 21:09.40 | harleypig | I mean, what's so wrong about asking for a small side of con queso ... I don't want the huge bowl they have, or the chips ... I just want to dump some con queso on my dish. I'll gladly pay the full amount for the normal serving. |
| 21:09.50 | harleypig | But, nooooo, they can't do that. |
| 21:11.54 | tensai | I'll sell you some of their con queso. just give me $5 and tell them I said you could have it. |
| 21:12.16 | harleypig | <_< |
| 21:12.18 | harleypig | >_> |
| 21:12.24 | harleypig | slips tensai a fin |
| 21:12.44 | tensai | seriously though, does seem kind silly |
| 21:12.55 | tensai | s/ind/inda/ |
| 21:13.19 | JoshH | then they would have to think about what smaller dish to put it in |
| 21:13.34 | JoshH | and that's too much of a hassle |
| 21:15.08 | harleypig | feh ... they have 3 sizes of plastic ramekins sitting right there ... I pointed to the ramekin I wanted |
| 21:15.58 | harleypig | "Sorry, sir, it only comes in one size." "Fine, I'll pay the full amount. I just want a little bit." |
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| 21:16.10 | harleypig | "Sorry, sir, it only comes in one size." |
| 21:16.29 | harleypig | stoopid restaurateur |
| 21:17.18 | harleypig | So, i decide to go ahead and get the full size and the guy insists on giving me the chips, even though I don't want them. |
| 21:17.23 | harleypig | pendejo |
| 21:18.14 | nick125 | idiots. |
| 21:18.14 | harleypig | So I end up throwing away half a bowl of con queso and a full bowl of chips. |
| 21:18.18 | harleypig | So freaking wasteful. |
| 21:19.07 | tensai | should stuck 'em in your pocket and saved them for #utah |
| 21:19.37 | tensai | dips gabegundy in con queso |
| 21:20.17 | gabegundy | is best with queso! |
| 21:20.35 | tensai | harleypig: I wonder if the restaurant buys them individually portioned |
| 21:21.08 | JoshH | what restaurant was it? |
| 21:21.26 | JoshH | i need to get some queso dip tonight no matter what now |
| 21:22.49 | harleypig | tensai: No, they ladled it from a steam table for each serving. |
| 21:22.54 | harleypig | JoshH: Costa Vida |
| 21:22.57 | harleypig | in orem. |
| 21:23.31 | JoshH | ah, i went there once |
| 21:24.03 | tensai | harleypig: then there's really no excuse |
| 21:24.08 | tensai | was it good con queso? |
| 21:24.33 | harleypig | I liked it enough to buy it at full price for about a 1/3 the amount. |
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| 21:30.35 | harleypig | I keep smelling Jack Daniels ... |
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| 23:06.36 | bonez46 | in choosing a machine to act as a print server.. what should I look for? |
| 23:06.57 | high_roller | what kind of print server? |
| 23:09.08 | high_roller | windows print server, cups, lpd, novell ? |
| 23:09.19 | bonez46 | just machine to route print jobs to 2 or 3 printers on home LAN |
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| 23:09.31 | bonez46 | windows and cups would be feeding jobs to it |
| 23:09.38 | high_roller | well you don't need much horse power |
| 23:09.58 | redbeard2 | my brother is heading to boise for work on monday. does anyone know of any good places up there to get dinner? |
| 23:10.26 | harleypig | Besides McDonald's? |
| 23:10.28 | harleypig | ducks. |
| 23:10.37 | redbeard2 | harleypig: _good_ places |
| 23:10.40 | bonez46 | high_roller: that was what I wondered.... |
| 23:10.58 | bonez46 | McDonalds? for dinner? no way..... |
| 23:11.01 | harleypig | bonez46: unless you're gonna run the print server on vista |
| 23:11.15 | bonez46 | you can PAY me to go to McDonalds....unless it's the only place in town |
| 23:11.16 | harleypig | bonez46: I was yanking redbeard2s chain. |
| 23:11.30 | bonez46 | no way, no Vista.. that's banned.. Streng verbotten in my house |
| 23:11.33 | harleypig | Why would I pay you to go to mickey d's? |
| 23:11.43 | bonez46 | can't... damn.. you can't pay me to eat there |
| 23:11.49 | harleypig | :] |
| 23:12.57 | high_roller | bonez46: the most its going to do is run some filters, with windows clients it just passes the data straight through |
| 23:13.11 | high_roller | For my home LAN, I just run it on my main workstation |
| 23:13.43 | bonez46 | high_roller: so are you saying that a linux print server is more complicated? |
| 23:14.58 | harleypig | I love some of these band names ... Infected Mushroom, Shpongle ... |
| 23:15.28 | bonez46 | thanks high_roller |
| 23:15.30 | bonez46 | back later |
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