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| 00:21.47 | harleypig | I'm really getting hooked on dropbox ... it's making things very transparent |
| 00:22.01 | harleypig | not only for my mom and other family members, but me as well. |
| 00:22.30 | harleypig | I find it's easier for quick uploads than ftp, which is what I've been doing. |
| 00:22.58 | harleypig | I'm also starting to keep my background images in a folder on it ... very ncie. |
| 00:23.04 | Tene | XML::Parser is pretty sweet. |
| 00:27.47 | harleypig | it does a lot of heavy lifting for you, don't it :> |
| 00:27.56 | Tene | Yeah. |
| 00:27.58 | harleypig | oy fprd s ;py pgjrsb ;ogyomh gpt upipm |
| 00:28.04 | harleypig | damn ... |
| 00:28.08 | harleypig | the home keys are you friend |
| 00:28.48 | harleypig | and in the wrong window even |
| 00:29.45 | Tene | omg its a password! |
| 00:29.53 | harleypig | heh |
| 00:31.14 | harleypig | ,u bpove od ,u [sddeptf. brtogu ,r/ |
| 00:31.34 | harleypig | That's a password phrase ... if you can tell me what movie it's from I'll give you ... |
| 00:31.42 | harleypig | a herring! |
| 00:32.58 | harleypig | oh crap ... it's 1830 ... |
| 00:33.08 | harleypig | going home |
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| 02:12.22 | tristanbob | hjp_away, monty python? |
| 02:16.11 | tristanbob | my voice is my password, verify me. |
| 02:16.12 | tristanbob | Sneakers |
| 02:16.17 | tristanbob | yeah I get a fish! |
| 02:16.32 | tristanbob | I am a code breaker! oh yeah! |
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| 03:13.40 | eightyeight | tristanbob: ? |
| 03:14.28 | eightyeight | ahh |
| 03:43.21 | fozzmoo | tristanbob: ping |
| 03:44.56 | tristanbob | fozzmoo, pong |
| 03:45.16 | fozzmoo | is Utah Open Tech a full-time gig for you? |
| 03:46.49 | eightyeight | what is the way to manually mount what gnome would automount when a device is plugged in? |
| 03:46.57 | eightyeight | gnome-volume-manager? |
| 03:47.16 | eightyeight | mount to /media/[foo] that is |
| 03:48.25 | tristanbob | fozzmoo, not yet |
| 03:49.11 | fozzmoo | What is your geographical coverage area at this point? |
| 03:49.39 | fozzmoo | blows a kiss to the creators of 'transcode' |
| 03:51.22 | tristanbob | fozzmoo, my goal is all of Utah - but I actually have a customer in Missouri as well |
| 03:51.32 | fozzmoo | W00t. |
| 03:51.37 | fozzmoo | that's cool. |
| 03:51.45 | tristanbob | yeah - it just dropped in my lap |
| 03:51.50 | tristanbob | so I am thankful |
| 03:52.57 | tristanbob | fozzmoo, I guess you can consider it a full-time gig, just that I also work another full-time gig (I work all the time - it is fun but makes my wife mad) |
| 03:53.07 | fozzmoo | Poor glenda. |
| 03:53.14 | tristanbob | I'm worth it |
| 03:53.16 | tristanbob | ;) |
| 03:53.17 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 03:53.18 | tristanbob | ducks |
| 03:54.08 | tristanbob | if things keep going the way they are, she will be working for Utah OpenTech within a year |
| 03:54.23 | fozzmoo | That's great. |
| 03:54.35 | fozzmoo | I'm never going to run another business again... unless it's with my wife. |
| 03:54.55 | tristanbob | exactly! I have had dozens of business ideas that I presented to her - this is the ONLY one she approved |
| 03:55.18 | tristanbob | iodynamics? |
| 03:55.30 | fozzmoo | Yeah. |
| 03:55.36 | fozzmoo | that was my business. |
| 03:55.42 | fozzmoo | Emphasis on *was* |
| 03:55.55 | tristanbob | where do you work now? |
| 03:55.58 | fozzmoo | knowledgeBlue |
| 03:56.08 | fozzmoo | KB absorbed Iodynamics' clientbase. |
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| 03:56.53 | tristanbob | if I find a customer who wants some open source that I do not sell, I'll be sure to direct them to you |
| 03:58.07 | fozzmoo | If you want. heh. |
| 03:58.19 | tristanbob | looking at your website, you have some really cool stuff |
| 03:58.25 | fozzmoo | KB is all about shoehorning Compiere into everything... |
| 03:58.34 | fozzmoo | it's overkill for 99% of clients, IMO. |
| 03:58.34 | tristanbob | lol |
| 03:58.39 | fozzmoo | My boss disagrees. |
| 03:59.11 | Sargun | that's a beautiful chart: http://finance.google.com/finance?chdnp=1&chdd=1&chds=1&chdv=1&chvs=maximized&chdeh=0&chdet=1221499200000&chddm=170387&q=NYSE:LEH&ntsp=0 |
| 03:59.15 | tristanbob | compiere + PBX, compiere + LMS, compiere + CMS, CRM, EMS, etc |
| 04:02.25 | tristanbob | Sargun, I like this view: http://tinyurl.com/6qbpwd |
| 04:02.52 | Sargun | not as good |
| 04:02.54 | Sargun | not as big of a drop |
| 04:02.55 | fozzmoo | I guess if you're rooting for the complete collapse of the US financial system. |
| 04:03.16 | tristanbob | on a positive note, it is up 42.86% today! |
| 04:03.16 | Sargun | its not like I have any say in it |
| 04:03.45 | tristanbob | fozzmoo, it is good to let the pressure off |
| 04:03.58 | fozzmoo | I'm glad the govt got tired of stepping in. |
| 04:04.00 | tristanbob | like tectonic plates, the greed has built up too much |
| 04:04.10 | fozzmoo | greed and stupidity. |
| 04:04.24 | tristanbob | so things need to fail to get some healthy fear back into the market |
| 04:04.31 | tristanbob | fear + greed = good market |
| 04:04.32 | fozzmoo | "okay, you say you make $12/hr and you want to buy a 2.5million dollar house? Okay." |
| 04:05.01 | tristanbob | fozzmoo, yup, greed made the businesses stupid |
| 04:05.10 | tristanbob | so what would prevent this? regulation? |
| 04:05.30 | fozzmoo | Certainly not govt bailouts. |
| 04:05.34 | fozzmoo | That only encourages it. |
| 04:06.08 | fozzmoo | I think the occasional Lehman Brothers would do a lot to discourage greed and stupidity. :) |
| 04:07.41 | levi | tristanbob: There *was* regulation in place to prevent the kind of loans that took place, but it was fairly recently repealed. |
| 04:07.50 | tristanbob | fozzmoo, agreed - bailouts create sense of safety, "lets keep doing what we are doing because they govt will save us" |
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| 04:08.04 | tristanbob | false sense of safety |
| 04:08.54 | levi | I'm not sure it's enough safety that they'd have actually done what they did knowing how risky things really were. |
| 04:10.29 | levi | I've read and heard several accounts of how the risky mortgages were repackaged to hide the risk, but I don't know what part the big investment houses like Lehman Brothers played. |
| 04:11.20 | levi | A lot of investors were completely duped, because they were buying AAA-rated bonds. |
| 04:16.55 | levi | This was an excellent explanation of what happened: http://www.thislife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?sched=1242 |
| 04:18.55 | Sargun | I love This American Life |
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| 04:34.26 | lakshmi | Sargun listening or watching? |
| 04:41.55 | Sargun | both |
| 04:43.55 | lakshmi | how are you watching it? |
| 04:44.02 | lakshmi | did you get it from netflix yet? |
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| 14:57.03 | Sargun_Screen | ~ping |
| 14:57.04 | ibot | ~pong |
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| 15:10.08 | goozbach | redbeard2: http://www.flickr.com/photos/90821652@N00/1456309730/ |
| 15:10.19 | goozbach | cookie monster cupcakes! |
| 15:11.05 | redbeard2 | gah! those monsters are all choking to death on cookies! |
| 15:12.22 | tristanbob | goozbach, love them - neat idea |
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| 15:55.47 | levi | Hi. |
| 16:03.37 | elg | ho |
| 16:07.53 | unum | I told you not to call me that at work |
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| 16:14.43 | hjp_away | monkey chowder |
| 16:15.28 | goozbach | oreos are the shiz-nit! |
| 16:27.09 | harleypig | double-stuffed chocolate-peanut butter swirl fudge covered oreos are insulin begging. |
| 16:28.06 | elg | oreos are at the bottom of the food desire pyramid |
| 16:28.32 | harleypig | Depends on who's doing the pyramid ... |
| 16:28.43 | harleypig | they're at the top of my kids pyramid. |
| 16:28.48 | elg | generic store bought vanilla cream cookies are better than any oreo i've ever had |
| 16:29.09 | unum | I prefer the oreo's to the generics |
| 16:29.29 | elg | my teenage bishop (no, I was the teenager) worked for nabisco and always had rejects for us in priest quorum |
| 16:29.45 | elg | the oreos seemed to be everyone's last choice, especially his kids' |
| 16:29.49 | harleypig | oreo's produce the nastiest messes to clean up in diapers. |
| 16:33.34 | harleypig | anyone following the_JOKER on twitter? |
| 16:33.58 | harleypig | "Now who wants to get naked and play global thermonuclear scrabble?" |
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| 16:42.31 | maquis | i like oreos... |
| 16:42.54 | mrpull | harleypig: who is the_JOKER? |
| 16:48.44 | levi | http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1226905 |
| 16:48.56 | harleypig | mrpull: Batman's Joker. |
| 16:49.06 | harleypig | It's part of the marketing campaign for the next batman film. |
| 16:49.34 | harleypig | You can follow the_JOKER, Rachel Dawes, the_RIDDLER and someone else on twitter ...c an't remember who. |
| 16:51.13 | harleypig | levi: That's an interesting idea ... wonder how this guy made the connection (is he mormon?) |
| 16:51.20 | mrpull | I see. I'm still unsold on Twitter. |
| 16:51.29 | levi | harleypig: Yes, he is. |
| 16:51.49 | levi | harleypig: He's currently a guest blogger at Times and Seasons. |
| 16:51.58 | harleypig | mrpull: I wasn't either till I tried it. Drink the twitter kool-aid ... you be more popular |
| 16:52.25 | harleypig | levi: ah. makes sense then, but it's still an interesting idea. wonder how far he'll be able to go with it. |
| 16:52.34 | harleypig | err ... you'll |
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| 16:52.56 | mrpull | I'm still trying. Perhaps I'm overwhelmed by the political slant from people that I expected to be more technical. |
| 16:53.14 | levi | It's political silly season. |
| 16:54.09 | unum | mrpull: are they all libertarians? |
| 16:54.31 | mrpull | I liked the compartmentalization of newsgroups of the old days. |
| 16:55.12 | mrpull | I could follow user X's comments about topic Y and not necessarily need to know that his kid's diapers needed changing. |
| 16:55.43 | mrpull | on the other hand, I do like that transparency of twitter. |
| 16:56.11 | levi | This is a pretty cool infographic: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/09/15/business/20080916-treemap-graphic.html |
| 16:56.29 | levi | That's a lot of money that just disappeared... |
| 16:57.14 | harleypig | mrpull: otoh, it makes those you do twitter with on a regular basis more ... real somehow. |
| 16:57.26 | harleypig | I don't think twitter will replace newsgroups, mailing lists or irc. |
| 16:58.14 | high_roller | twitter is a short message broadcast medium |
| 16:58.48 | high_roller | that's probably why its popular, cause that didn't really exist before |
| 16:59.19 | high_roller | that being the communication medium twitter provides |
| 16:59.46 | harleypig | well, it did in the sense of sms, but sms was limited ... |
| 17:00.02 | harleypig | twitter is basically ubiquitous sms |
| 17:00.35 | high_roller | sms is more person to person, not really broadcast |
| 17:00.42 | harleypig | good poit |
| 17:00.48 | harleypig | s/it/int/ |
| 17:00.59 | high_roller | ibot: thanks for the clarification |
| 17:00.59 | ibot | high_roller: sure thing |
| 17:01.13 | harleypig | :D |
| 17:01.19 | harleypig | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:01.59 | harleypig | Wonder how long before ibot goes to twitter ... |
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| 17:03.10 | elg | heh. he could twitter on behalf of people |
| 17:03.20 | elg | "harleypig is torturing #utah again" |
| 17:03.43 | harleypig | :] |
| 17:05.00 | elg | seriously though, twitter-ified summaries of the past hour on channel X. could be interesting (pruned down versions of her stats pages now) |
| 17:06.17 | goozbach | ~stats |
| 17:06.18 | ibot | Since Mon Sep 8 15:08:37 2008, there have been 47 modifications, 791 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 574 commands. I have been awake for 9d 1h 57m 40s this session, and currently reference 115307 factoids. I'm using about 20228 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 20693.66/848.27 child 0/0 |
| 17:06.34 | goozbach | ~logs |
| 17:06.35 | ibot | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. |
| 17:08.05 | goozbach | ~status |
| 17:08.06 | ibot | Since Mon Sep 8 15:08:37 2008, there have been 47 modifications, 792 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 574 commands. I have been awake for 9d 1h 59m 28s this session, and currently reference 115307 factoids. I'm using about 20228 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 20697.84/848.86 child 0/0 |
| 17:08.24 | goozbach | ~moron elg |
| 17:08.30 | levi | What's ibot's definition of a moron? |
| 17:08.45 | goozbach | ~help moron |
| 17:09.21 | elg | http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/utah.html.gz |
| 17:09.36 | harleypig | the other way around too ... you could send commands to ibot and have her do things on the channel, or in a msg or twit. |
| 17:11.17 | goozbach | -chat think about |
| 17:12.11 | goozbach | "fozzmoo has quite a potty mouth. 0.0% words were foul language." |
| 17:12.43 | levi | Well, he often says 'liberal' as if it's a bad word. :) |
| 17:13.51 | harleypig | It's becoming one, the way the democratic party and their lackeys are acting. |
| 17:14.42 | fozzmoo | goozbach: Damn it! |
| 17:14.54 | elg | the biggest problem with $PARTY is the $PARTY |
| 17:15.04 | levi | The democratic party is no more a bastion of liberal thought than the republican party is a bastion of conservative thought. |
| 17:15.07 | elg | and the biggest problem with good $PARTY is their positions |
| 17:15.10 | harleypig | is not going to be out done |
| 17:15.13 | fozzmoo | levi: I'm with you on that. |
| 17:15.19 | harleypig | damn damn damn damn damn damn damn damn damn damn damn damn damn damn |
| 17:15.24 | fozzmoo | Parties suck. |
| 17:15.35 | RyanE | My parties are fun. |
| 17:15.40 | harleypig | elg: twister? |
| 17:15.43 | elg | unless they have that really good fruit punch with sherbet floating in it |
| 17:15.47 | RyanE | Usually bbq-style backyard affairs. |
| 17:15.49 | levi | Mmm. |
| 17:15.51 | harleypig | Jungle Juice! |
| 17:16.15 | fozzmoo | oooooh. backyard affairs. spicy! |
| 17:17.07 | harleypig | as opposed to backyard romances |
| 17:17.51 | unum | couldn't have backyard affair |
| 17:18.00 | unum | I guess I could have one on my deck.... |
| 17:18.26 | unum | though I can't even find single women to fornicate with..... |
| 17:18.56 | RyanE | good to see the 12 year olds are still here... :) |
| 17:18.59 | harleypig | heh ... sounds like a site to start up ... utahvalleybedbuddies.com |
| 17:19.18 | RyanE | harleypig: now that you've said that, in 3.8 seconds, there will be one... |
| 17:19.23 | harleypig | :D |
| 17:19.23 | unum | http://jonathangardner.net/tech/w/PostgreSQL/Materialized_Views <- can anyone tell me what's wrong with the first plpgsql code on that page |
| 17:19.38 | goozbach | what was that email throwaway service someone mentioned the other day? |
| 17:19.42 | Tene | Reminder: Petrov Day is next week: http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/09/926-is-petrov-d.html |
| 17:19.55 | tensai | goozbach: dodgit.com |
| 17:20.00 | goozbach | thanks |
| 17:20.04 | goozbach | tlapd |
| 17:20.26 | goozbach | day after tomorrow |
| 17:25.02 | Sargun_Screen | petrov day? |
| 17:25.55 | RyanE | goozbach: AAARRR. |
| 17:26.59 | harleypig | Don't forget: Today is the Constitution's birthday! |
| 17:27.12 | RyanE | Just keep those candles away from it! |
| 17:27.46 | Sargun_Screen | harleypig: the latest president detroyed it, remember? |
| 17:28.26 | harleypig | Feh ... not yet he hasn't. Though he's trying hard. |
| 17:28.38 | harleypig | From the petrov page: "Petrov was first congratulated, then extensively interrogated, then reprimanded for failing to follow procedure. He resigned in poor health from the military several months later." |
| 17:28.48 | harleypig | Read ... he was tortured mercilessly. |
| 17:28.58 | harleypig | How'd not end up with and accidental discharge to the head? |
| 17:29.59 | Sargun_Screen | the republican party is getting closer to destroying the constitution every dy. |
| 17:30.00 | Sargun_Screen | day |
| 17:30.13 | Sargun_Screen | the party that utah votes for. |
| 17:30.19 | harleypig | The democrats are doing the same thing. |
| 17:30.39 | unum | harleypig: how so? |
| 17:30.54 | harleypig | Situational morality. |
| 17:30.56 | unum | I guess matheson did vote with his republican colleges |
| 17:31.03 | unum | harleypig? |
| 17:31.09 | Sargun_Screen | the democrats are invading other countries because of a 10 year old family grudge? |
| 17:31.25 | harleypig | Sargun_Screen: feh |
| 17:31.30 | Sargun_Screen | 'situational morality' is a great buzzword |
| 17:31.33 | unum | the democrats are calling for torture of american citizens? |
| 17:31.44 | harleypig | I said "opposite" |
| 17:31.50 | harleypig | oh, no I didn't. |
| 17:32.01 | harleypig | the democrats are doing the same thing in the opposite direction. |
| 17:32.09 | harleypig | republicans want to tighten everything up |
| 17:32.17 | harleypig | democrats one to loosen everything up. |
| 17:32.21 | Sargun_Screen | tighten? huh? |
| 17:32.31 | harleypig | republicans are going to implode the constitution |
| 17:32.38 | harleypig | democrats are going to dissolve it. |
| 17:33.12 | harleypig | republicans want control over as much as possible (tightening) |
| 17:33.13 | Sargun_Screen | what evidence do you have of the democrats dissolving the constitution? |
| 17:33.33 | Sargun_Screen | ok, control over everything = bad :-( |
| 17:33.51 | unum | not removing a sitting president for a misdemeanor? that's the only one I got. |
| 17:33.56 | Sargun_Screen | wait, isn't the republican platform small government? |
| 17:34.12 | harleypig | no |
| 17:34.12 | unum | which I consider bad, but it pales to torching american citizens |
| 17:34.21 | Sargun_Screen | advocating torture - that's in the consiituion? |
| 17:35.01 | harleypig | You know what ... fuck this. I'm sick of being in the middle of the goddamn road ... it doesn't matter. Republicans, democrats ... their both fucking up the country and the world. |
| 17:35.16 | harleypig | In their own special and unique ways. |
| 17:35.41 | harleypig | And all they can do is point their fingers at each other, ignoring their own faults. |
| 17:35.45 | Sargun_Screen | language... |
| 17:36.52 | goozbach | harleypig: amen |
| 17:39.43 | jsmith | once again mentions his "Radical Moderates" party |
| 17:40.19 | harleypig | :] I'll write in their presidential nominee. |
| 17:40.50 | elg | can you campaign in a speedo? |
| 17:40.55 | mrpull | harleypig: can you still do a write in on one of those flawed electronic voting machines? ;-) |
| 17:41.05 | harleypig | oh ... good point. |
| 17:41.26 | harleypig | elg: Only if I can do it for both democraps and repukeicans. |
| 17:41.38 | harleypig | reverts to childish name calling. |
| 17:42.26 | tensai | harleypig: oh yeah?!? well you're a harley, um, ... pig |
| 17:42.28 | tensai | take that! |
| 17:42.35 | harleypig | oink |
| 17:43.34 | tensai | if you think about how political parties work, it makes sense |
| 17:44.05 | tensai | before a person can be elected in the fall, they have to be approved by the party at a convention, caucus, etc. |
| 17:44.24 | tensai | the only people who care enough to go to conventions are the nuts, wackos and extremists |
| 17:44.50 | tensai | so we get nominated the candidate who those yahoos like |
| 17:46.19 | mrpull | aren't those wackos bound to vote for what their constituents (sp?) voice? |
| 17:47.00 | mrpull | ( I do seem to remember some hoopla about the utah wackos wanting to keep their vote for Mitt even though he'd dropped out) |
| 17:48.17 | RyanE | It wasn't wackos, it was the rules of how they were required to vote. OK, I suppose they still could be wackos. :) |
| 17:51.24 | mrpull | I was using your term... not mine |
| 17:51.46 | mrpull | and i think sticking to established rules is generally a good thing |
| 17:52.45 | harleypig | When both good and bad people play, only the good play by the rules. |
| 17:53.50 | elg | harleypig: unless one of the rules is gravity |
| 17:54.08 | jsmith | elg: That's not a rule... that's a law! |
| 17:54.10 | harleypig | depends on which bad people you're talking about. |
| 17:54.27 | elg | hmm good point. maybe I should revise my wisecrack to involve centimeters instead |
| 17:59.35 | tensai | high_roller: you got a blog? |
| 17:59.48 | high_roller | tensai: no |
| 18:00.38 | high_roller | I had one in the past, but I never updated it so I just kinda gave up on that |
| 18:01.25 | elg | or it gave up on you |
| 18:01.47 | tensai | elg: sorry, try that again in the form of a soviet russia joke |
| 18:02.05 | elg | high_roller: in soviet russia, your blog gives up on you! |
| 18:04.01 | high_roller | cable company fail |
| 18:07.20 | elg | sure blame the cable company instead of the party |
| 18:07.52 | high_roller | well they got my cell number wrong and the guy was supposed to come out this morning to get it hooked up |
| 18:08.17 | elg | i bet his name was mikhail or ivan |
| 18:08.28 | high_roller | I don't know why they don't do a self install kit like other ISPs |
| 18:08.56 | high_roller | tensai: about the only online thing i do is face book, but if you wanna know what's going on its better to go to my wife's facebook page |
| 18:09.52 | tensai | the cable guy who came to my house wanted to install some crappy software on my computer |
| 18:10.04 | tensai | the look on his face when he sat down at a linux prompt was priceless |
| 18:10.20 | Sargun_Screen | how do you know it was crappy? |
| 18:10.38 | fozzmoo | Sargun_Screen: It was crappy. Trust him. |
| 18:11.22 | tensai | my computer just needed to dhcp. anything else was unnecessary. therefore his software was garbage. |
| 18:13.00 | fozzmoo | And maybe the software protected your computer from dangerous Windows malware! |
| 18:14.09 | Sargun_Screen | maybe it was awesome software to help you enjoy your internet browsing experience? |
| 18:17.03 | high_roller | I tell DSL techs and cable techs they aren't allowed to touch my computer |
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| 18:19.26 | unum | I tell them it runs debian GNU/Linux Sid and the keyboard is layout is dvorak, if they think they can use it go ahead |
| 18:22.11 | high_roller | unum: problem is that they think you're some super geek (which might be true) and then they proceed to tell you they are trying to get into "computers" etc. |
| 18:22.56 | elg | which may also be true |
| 18:24.08 | high_roller | yea, but I don't want to hear their life's story |
| 18:24.10 | unum | at which point I tell them to join sllug :) |
| 18:24.37 | unum | is always recruiting |
| 18:24.58 | elg | oh i misread. i thought you said "then they proceed to tell you you are trying to get into "computer" etc." (e.g. you're a cracker) |
| 18:27.44 | Sargun_Screen | unum: will you give them root? |
| 18:28.11 | high_roller | that's why I put computers in quotation marks |
| 18:28.14 | unum | Sargun_Screen: no. |
| 18:28.29 | Sargun_Screen | aww, why not? |
| 18:28.44 | unum | if you can't crack it your self you don't deserve it |
| 18:28.53 | Sargun_Screen | what happens if they need it to install their super amazing software |
| 18:29.07 | Sargun_Screen | are reboots and data corruption allowed? |
| 18:29.15 | unum | on my debian system? not going to get very far even with root |
| 18:29.19 | Sargun_Screen | what about taking apart the computer |
| 18:29.36 | unum | http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/know.your.sysadmin.html |
| 18:30.01 | Sargun_Screen | takes apart unum's computer |
| 18:30.23 | unum | I have a brother who's a dba, and an other that does help desk, I'm a software developer, to most people who all "do computers" |
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| 18:46.44 | lakshmi | hi |
| 18:46.50 | unum | hi |
| 18:52.18 | high_roller | how rude, he didn't say bye |
| 18:56.15 | unum | jerk |
| 18:56.36 | high_roller | kids these days |
| 19:01.39 | tensai | he's a she, btw |
| 19:03.46 | high_roller | I was using the generic he |
| 19:16.56 | levi | high_roller: sexist! |
| 19:18.41 | harleypig | Am I the only one who's noticed that sexist is sexiest without the e? |
| 19:18.50 | harleypig | :> |
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| 19:25.17 | ^Migs^ | that's so weird, in the other channel I'm in someone just mistyped "sexist" as "sexiest" |
| 19:25.37 | harleypig | the universe is in on the joke. |
| 19:28.29 | mrpull | odd that the plug mailling list hasn't had any activity for a few days |
| 19:28.35 | mrpull | (at least that I've noticed) |
| 19:33.11 | harleypig | I got one the other morning, but that's about it. |
| 19:33.19 | harleypig | Maybe twitter is killing the mailing lists ... |
| 19:33.43 | mrpull | I knew that damn twitter would be the end of all civilization |
| 19:35.17 | harleypig | 'all' is kinda broad isn't it? I mean, what about all the other civilizations in the multiverse? |
| 19:35.52 | mrpull | given enough time it _can_and_will_ destroy 'all' |
| 19:35.58 | mrpull | ....maybe |
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| 19:36.48 | harleypig | It'd be cool to be able to twitter your alternates in the other universes. |
| 19:37.06 | harleypig | Of course, you'd have to be careful of the Star Trek mirror universe you told you ... |
| 19:37.10 | mrpull | @othermrpull: are you as bored as I am? |
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| 19:38.35 | harleypig | My mirror universe self must have no beard at least ... |
| 19:41.06 | goozbach | harleypig's alternate universe self would be ducatifawn... and she'd be HAWT! |
| 19:41.21 | harleypig | who is ducatifawn? |
| 19:41.38 | harleypig | And you'd probably want to see her in a speedo. |
| 19:41.42 | goozbach | harley -> ducati |
| 19:41.47 | goozbach | pig -> fawn |
| 19:41.52 | harleypig | nice :] |
| 19:42.07 | goozbach | male -> female |
| 19:42.09 | harleypig | But then you couldn't get the relationship between her and me out of your head ... |
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| 19:42.21 | harleypig | and you tear your eyes out anyway |
| 19:42.23 | harleypig | :> |
| 19:42.24 | goozbach | no speedo -> speedo please |
| 19:42.27 | mrpull | ~google ducatifawn |
| 19:42.44 | goozbach | the multiverse is unfair |
| 19:43.00 | mrpull | odly enough the first hit hhas alpacas. |
| 19:43.38 | harleypig | oh yeah ... those sweaters on a hawt chick are so nice |
| 19:44.25 | goozbach | here's a rendering of what ducatifawn would look like NSF(ultra conservitave)W |
| 19:44.28 | goozbach | http://www.sportsbikes.org/girls.php?Hot babe with Ducati&id=15 |
| 19:44.46 | Sargun | ducatifawn? |
| 19:44.57 | Sargun | ducati = motorcycle |
| 19:45.38 | harleypig | Oh, yeah ... that' my alternate universe self. :> |
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| 19:47.25 | tensai | you can't lust after your alternate universe self. are you trying to rip apart space time? |
| 19:48.57 | harleypig | feh ... it's just masturbation. |
| 19:49.09 | harleypig | quantum masturbation |
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| 19:51.00 | goozbach | that'd be a gread band name |
| 19:51.09 | RyanE | Fun toy. Flip the states the way you think they'll go, it'll show the winner: |
| 19:51.11 | RyanE | http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/ |
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| 19:54.20 | harleypig | I'm afraid to search for that phrase at work. |
| 20:00.03 | levi | This is crazy: http://cache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/ike_09_15/ike11.jpg |
| 20:00.32 | levi | There used to be a house on every one of those plots. |
| 20:00.52 | mrpull | levi: I'll take our earthquake threat over coastal storm threats 100% of the time |
| 20:01.00 | mrpull | that is crazy sad |
| 20:01.13 | levi | There's not even *debris* left. |
| 20:01.26 | levi | Yet, there's one house standing there, mostly intact. |
| 20:02.58 | RyanE | I'm guessing 'mostly intact' in this case == 'will have to be torn down due to structural damage'. |
| 20:03.41 | RyanE | although, if I were choosing a builder to rebuild there, I'd seriously consider the guy who built that one house. :) |
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| 20:04.55 | levi | Well, mostly intact compared to the neighbors' houses, which are just *not there* anymore. :) |
| 20:05.12 | maquis | mrpull: i disagree |
| 20:05.32 | maquis | i'll take predictable natural disasters over unpredictable natural disasters |
| 20:05.33 | levi | I mean, usually you see them smashed flat or spread all over the place. Here they're just gone. |
| 20:05.45 | maquis | at least with predictable ones, you can at least get yourself and your family out safely |
| 20:06.20 | tvc123 | assuming you aren't trapped on the freeway for hours and run out of gas |
| 20:06.24 | tensai | maquis: you mean like in katrina? |
| 20:06.27 | mrpull | I predict 1 bigass earthquake in my lifetime and dozens of bigass storms ;-) |
| 20:07.29 | mrpull | and my storm prediction might be closer to correct than the earthquake prediction |
| 20:07.35 | levi | Or maybe Yellowstone will erupt again, and it'll all be moot. |
| 20:07.40 | tensai | my closest threat is the yellowstone caldera. if that blows, we're all toast no matter how fast we drive. |
| 20:07.50 | levi | Heh. |
| 20:08.04 | maquis | tensai: you have a much better chance, at least |
| 20:08.33 | levi | Yeah, we'd probably get some clues that Yellowstone was going to blow before it did. |
| 20:08.47 | levi | But I'm not quite sure what the correct reaction would be. |
| 20:09.09 | tensai | we should tap it for geothermal energy |
| 20:09.52 | levi | We need more efficient energy transport mechanisms first. |
| 20:10.26 | elg | are we sure that house isn't photoshopped in? |
| 20:10.45 | levi | elg: Pretty sure. |
| 20:10.48 | tensai | levi: lava canals are the answer |
| 20:10.59 | RyanE | hot and hot running lava taps in the house. |
| 20:16.39 | levi | elg: It's from this series: http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/09/the_short_but_eventful_life_of.html |
| 20:32.09 | elg | levi: so you're implying the boston globe is above photoshopping |
| 20:33.06 | levi | I'm implying that I'm pretty sure it's not. |
| 20:33.42 | levi | I can tell by the pixels. :P |
| 21:01.55 | elg | the world needs an alternative internet-friendly name for native americans |
| 21:02.15 | elg | the indian shortcut doesn't work now with indians from india being much more visible |
| 21:02.25 | elg | native american is just too long |
| 21:03.41 | RyanE | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.01 | jsmith | elg: "First People" or "First Americans" are the two variants I've heard lately that seem to be more politically correct |
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| 21:13.54 | elg | oh sure, till they find the jsmithites |
| 21:14.37 | jsmith | I'm a race unto myself? |
| 21:14.44 | elg | more fun than just jaredites |
| 21:15.29 | elg | maybe "amerigos" |
| 21:15.30 | jsmith | Definitely... and hopefully more successful |
| 21:15.42 | jsmith | Columbites? |
| 21:15.47 | elg | heh |
| 21:15.56 | jsmith | Native WesternHemispherians? |
| 21:16.08 | elg | really westerners |
| 21:16.25 | elg | navasouiximos |
| 21:16.53 | elg | triabls |
| 21:16.56 | elg | tribals even |
| 21:17.46 | elg | the restless |
| 21:17.50 | jlp_work | tribbles? |
| 21:18.03 | elg | not cuddly enough |
| 21:18.13 | jlp_work | maybe not the ones *you* know |
| 21:18.25 | elg | well i'm sure they're cuddly to their spouses |
| 21:18.41 | elg | lovers/parents/children/pets/etc. |
| 21:19.02 | elg | prairists |
| 21:19.14 | elg | warriors |
| 21:20.12 | jlp_work | NAPs (Native American People s) |
| 21:20.58 | fozzmoo | Anyone familiar with qmail? :-/ |
| 21:21.15 | jlp_work | fozzmoo: enough to know that the best course of action is rm -rf qmail, install postfix |
| 21:21.21 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 21:21.30 | elg | is that that djb thing that once was really cool and might have been popular if it wasn't so dang hard to install and maintain? |
| 21:22.03 | jsmith | elg: That would be it! |
| 21:22.08 | jsmith | elg: How'd you guess? |
| 21:22.16 | elg | i set it up once, back when it was cool |
| 21:22.46 | elg | don't remember anything except: it was better than sendmail, installation was long and painful but well-documented, postfix didn't exist yet |
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| 21:28.17 | tensai | some people swear by it. that logic escapes me. |
| 21:28.35 | tensai | if you could find bradipo, he's an expert |
| 21:28.39 | fozzmoo | I've got a server that we'd LOVE to dismantle... but it's running qmail (under plesk) |
| 21:28.49 | fozzmoo | it has 14k messages backed up for local delivery. |
| 21:28.54 | fozzmoo | ticking me off. |
| 21:29.29 | tensai | I think he's still on the plug list, so you might try posting something there |
| 21:30.33 | jsmith | WoodsDog is the best qmail admin I know... maybe you can hire/bribe/beg him to help you |
| 21:30.56 | goozbach | qmail *sigh* |
| 21:31.01 | jsmith | tried and tried but never wrapped his head around qmail |
| 21:31.15 | goozbach | I thought I had forgotten that era of my life |
| 21:31.21 | jsmith | "Learning qmail is like having your brains smashed out by a slice of lemon.... wrapped around a gold brick." |
| 21:31.27 | goozbach | but nooooooo! |
| 21:31.38 | goozbach | forgetting it takes the same approach |
| 21:48.21 | fozzmoo | So what is the big Guru Labs news? |
| 21:50.20 | mrpull | it feels like 5:30PM |
| 21:50.48 | RyanE | 3:50 |
| 21:50.58 | RyanE | just switch the digits, and get outta there! |
| 21:51.56 | maquis | big GL news? |
| 21:54.19 | mrpull | I once saw a screen saver that had a clock that fudged the truth |
| 21:54.26 | Tene | Yeah, there's big GL news. |
| 21:54.37 | mrpull | it would compress minutes before and after lunch and elongate the lunch minutes |
| 21:54.40 | RyanE | so what is the big GL news? Good news, hopefully? |
| 21:54.57 | mrpull | people come to your desk and see it is only 12:50 and figure you'll be back at 1 |
| 21:55.00 | Tene | Less teaching, more focus on courseware, new clients, etc. |
| 21:55.11 | mrpull | come back 10 minutes later and see it is only 12:55 |
| 21:55.12 | mrpull | etc |
| 21:55.30 | mrpull | Tene: interesting. can you share the motivation? |
| 21:55.54 | Tene | Red Hat is reorganizing their training program. |
| 21:56.40 | Tene | We'll now have fewer classes from them, but we're now less restricted by needing to try to avoid upsetting Red Hat. |
| 21:58.49 | fozzmoo | Huh. |
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| 22:14.29 | tristanbob_ | announcement??? |
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| 22:21.17 | elg | hear ye hear ye |
| 22:21.24 | elg | tensai's mother smells of elderberries |
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