| 00:00.12 | nconger | does anyone know if the plug meeting is happening tonight? |
| 00:03.01 | {-} | nconger: They won't tell me either. |
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| 00:04.03 | levi | What time would it be if it were to happen? |
| 00:04.20 | nconger | 7:30pm @ omniture headquarters |
| 00:07.37 | bonez45 | where is omniture? |
| 00:07.46 | nconger | in Orem, UT |
| 00:08.22 | harleypig | in the old wordperfect campus |
| 00:09.07 | nconger | 550 East Timpanogos Circle |
| 00:09.07 | nconger | Orem, UT 84097 |
| 00:09.31 | nconger | Any word on if it's actually happening tonight? |
| 00:10.03 | nconger | I know the Utah Open Source Conference wrapped a week or so ago ...maybe everyone is still tired from that |
| 00:19.52 | tensai | from what I hear, Jayce^ is bringing roasted chiles and harleypig is bringing Jack and a movie. sounds like an interesting night. |
| 00:22.18 | nconger | so the plug meeting is on tonight? |
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| 01:02.17 | bmidgley1 | is there a plug meeting at 7:30? |
| 01:14.19 | {-} | bmidgley: They won't tell us. |
| 01:15.33 | high_roller | if enough people show up, then by default it can become a meeting :) |
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| 02:37.01 | levi | Huh, Nissan decided to finally make the Maxima look nice again. |
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| 02:41.01 | Sargun | weird stuff. |
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| 03:07.22 | levi | Oh geez. A woman got clipped by FrontRunner today. |
| 03:07.54 | levi | She kept going when the arms started going down, and then stopped right in the middle of the tracks, and *then* tried to u-turn to get away. |
| 03:12.19 | levi | Aww, an elephant had to be put to sleep at Hogle Zoo. |
| 03:12.46 | levi | reads about Rawls and his Theory of Justice. |
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| 03:42.03 | Newsome | levi: yep, stuff like that happens all the time here in Chicago |
| 03:44.19 | levi | Newsome: The train thing, or the elephant dying thing? |
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| 03:51.42 | levi | http://www.factcheck.org/specialreports/cognitive_science_and_factcheckorg_or_why_we.html |
| 04:01.16 | Newsome | the train thing |
| 04:02.06 | Newsome | although I've only actually been _on_ a train that killed someone once |
| 04:06.04 | levi | That sounds like an unpleasant situation. |
| 04:06.39 | Newsome | yes, for all...involved and not involved |
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| 04:18.22 | levi | So, to any twitter users, how do you find people to follow? |
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| 04:21.19 | Sargun | My train has hit people before |
| 04:21.23 | Sargun | didn't kill them. |
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| 05:15.38 | Tene | levi: I personally don't have interest in following people I don't know, so my way of finding people to follow is to start following people I know when they mention their twitter account |
| 05:15.48 | Tene | levi: btw, I'm "tene" on twitter, if you couldn't guess. |
| 05:22.40 | Tene | http://rakudo.de/ -- graph of passing tests on rakudo |
| 05:33.44 | levi | Tene: I'm pineal_servo |
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| 06:22.11 | fozzmoo | Seven years, folks. |
| 06:23.00 | Sargun | fozzmoo, not yet. |
| 06:23.18 | Sargun | I think we're still T-Minus 7.5 hours still. |
| 06:23.20 | Sargun | or so. |
| 06:23.21 | fozzmoo | Sargun: I know. Not for another 6 hours or so. |
| 06:23.28 | fozzmoo | But still. |
| 06:23.41 | fozzmoo | What were YOU doing that day? |
| 06:24.42 | Sargun | I was in 5th grade. |
| 06:25.22 | fozzmoo | My wife woke me up to tell me something was up in New York. I ran down and kicked my daughter off the TV. I remember she was watching Teletubbies. She was... barely 3 then. I saw the second plane hit on live TV. |
| 06:25.32 | Sargun | Aww, Teletubes. |
| 06:25.42 | Sargun | you shoulda let her watch. |
| 06:26.01 | fozzmoo | I had just been in NYC a few months before. |
| 06:26.12 | rsimpkins | Sorry about PLUG tonight. I am oncall. It has been brutal. :( |
| 06:26.44 | fozzmoo | rsimpkins: Oh geez. is it that time of the month again? |
| 06:26.54 | fozzmoo | Sorry about my oblivion. |
| 06:27.10 | rsimpkins | I only have it every 8th week, just happened to fall on this week. |
| 06:27.11 | fozzmoo | I'm off work for the week. My wife and I are working out butts off around the house. |
| 06:27.28 | fozzmoo | s/working out/working our/ |
| 06:27.28 | rsimpkins | Take a break from work so you can... work. Sounds nice. :) |
| 06:27.43 | fozzmoo | Oh, it's been so much nicer than taking the kids on a trip! Serious. |
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| 14:52.50 | elg | ~lart mpris |
| 14:52.50 | ibot | gets a hotmal account and SPAMs mpris |
| 14:53.01 | elg | this dbus stuff is worse than xml and ldap |
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| 15:05.32 | levi | elg: What dbus stuff? |
| 15:06.08 | elg | i just want to remotely control audacious |
| 15:08.18 | elg | http://audacious-media-player.org/index.php?title=Audacious_remote_interface |
| 15:08.24 | elg | dbus-send --dest=org.mpris.audacious /Player org.freedesktop.MediaPlayer.Pause |
| 15:08.27 | elg | and it doesn't even work |
| 15:08.48 | elg | and all this insanity isn't even network-aware |
| 15:09.17 | levi | Heh. |
| 15:09.24 | levi | No, apparently it's not. |
| 15:09.39 | tensai | but it's complicated so therefore it must be good |
| 15:10.09 | elg | apparently |
| 15:10.18 | levi | Though some KDE guy is working on some sort of orchestration system that will let KDE's thing and DBUS stuff all talk to each other and go over the network. |
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| 15:11.06 | tensai | it could be worse. they could have used ASN.1 |
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| 15:12.25 | elg | well i'm rebuilding audacious. i think ubuntu's version is screwed up |
| 15:12.37 | elg | maybe then the command-line stuff will work like it's supposed to and I can ignore mpris |
| 15:12.50 | levi | ASN.1 ain't all bad, if someone else wrote the parser. :) |
| 15:13.01 | elg | right now instead of finding the running audacious client and sending it the command, it launches a new audacious |
| 15:15.06 | tensai | levi: to be honest I don't even know enough about asn.1 to complain. but it sure seems complicated from the little I do know. |
| 15:15.37 | tensai | I could be wrong though |
| 15:16.14 | levi | tensai: It is a bit on the complicated side, but it's a flexible notation that has a number of standard transports defined that are pretty efficient on the wire. |
| 15:16.27 | ^Migs^ | http://www.physics.uwo.ca/ugrad/p021/course_information/bread.html |
| 15:17.23 | tensai | all I know is that ldap and snmp us it |
| 15:17.34 | tensai | s/us/use/ |
| 15:17.42 | levi | It's more human-readable than XML, and a bit harder to parse, but that's not really a big deal because it's not transported in that format. |
| 15:18.01 | levi | It's transported in a format that's *easier* to parse than XML. |
| 15:19.25 | elg | my expertise in this area is quite limited, but I think IIRC the biggest problem with ASN.1 was the namespacing was more than a bit ridiculous |
| 15:19.32 | elg | syntactically it seemed ok |
| 15:20.19 | levi | What didn't you like about the namespacing? The global hierarchy? |
| 15:20.28 | elg | i don't remember honestly |
| 15:20.32 | elg | just that it was insane complicated |
| 15:20.34 | tensai | we got our own enterprise numbers for writing ldap schemas |
| 15:21.07 | levi | I was the contact for the Linux Networx enterprise number, so I'm probably still in the database. |
| 15:23.06 | elg | yup that was the problem. this new build of audacious both the cli and the mpris stuff works |
| 15:23.28 | tensai | how many ubuntu packages have you ended up rebuilding? |
| 15:23.33 | elg | now, grab a ruby mpris library and my ruby osc library and throw together a little proxy et voila |
| 15:23.35 | tensai | I know it's a number greater than 1 |
| 15:23.55 | elg | libmcs1, audacious and audacious-plugins |
| 15:24.34 | elg | well those are the three source packages. they generated aboug 10 packages |
| 15:25.00 | elg | or are you talking about generally? I don't remember :) |
| 15:25.04 | tensai | there was another one before. I think it was jack related. |
| 15:25.06 | tensai | yeah, generally |
| 15:25.19 | elg | not a huge number, but on the order of 10 probably |
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| 15:26.06 | elg | it's a habit I bring over from debian. i would run testing, which was more than bleeding edge enough for most things, but then I'd be doing truly bleeding edge audio stuff so I'd have sid in my sources repo and build stuff that way |
| 15:26.42 | elg | that way I didn't slowly convert all libs on my system to unstable versions - because when you rebuild a .deb from unstable sources more times than not you can continue to use the stable/testing library versons |
| 15:27.11 | elg | even though the sid .deb would dependon in sid versions of those libraries (an artifact of the automatic library dependency generator at build time) |
| 15:28.02 | tensai | elg: do you own an mp3 player? if so, what is it? |
| 15:28.14 | elg | in ubuntu there's the added reason that ubuntu sometimes screws stuff up and it's nice to grab a debian package without all the screwiness in some cases |
| 15:28.16 | elg | like this one, apparently |
| 15:28.26 | elg | yes, a samsung yepp |
| 15:28.32 | elg | yp-mt6 |
| 15:29.12 | elg | mp3 and ogg and usb mass storage in a small package (the size of a AA battery) |
| 15:29.27 | tensai | I want something cheap and useful for my mom. I'm sure whatever you got matches those criteria. |
| 15:29.33 | elg | a bit small by today's standards, it's 512M (though other models in the series were upt o 2G iirc) |
| 15:29.36 | elg | :) |
| 15:29.38 | tensai | does it record audio? |
| 15:29.40 | elg | it's an excellent player |
| 15:29.41 | elg | yes |
| 15:29.44 | elg | to wav or mp3 |
| 15:30.18 | elg | the only trouble I have with it is something mechanical - it sometimes shuts off. probbably a bad battery connection |
| 15:30.33 | elg | but it has suffered my brand of abuse for a few years, what can you expect? |
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| 15:44.06 | bonez45 | help... I have comcast. to smc gateway, into which is plugged wrt54g router.. into which is plugged cable which leads to my room here, and is plugged into yet another wrt54g.. from which cable goes to 3 machines.. 1 running ubuntu, one etch and one winxp.. |
| 15:45.24 | bonez45 | the ubuntu machine has a printer attached.. when the ubuntu machine is plugged into the cable coming from first wrt54g...wife can print wirelessly from her win xp laptop... . and i can see her machine.. in ubuntu's networking.. but when I switch the aforementioned configuration, I can't see her machine or others plugged into the first wrt54g router |
| 15:45.51 | high_roller | bonez45: are you using NAT on each of those wrt54g's |
| 15:45.53 | high_roller | ? |
| 15:46.13 | bonez45 | I believe NAT is in use.....though not 100% sure. . |
| 15:46.48 | high_roller | for windows networking to work, the machines all have to be on the same network, unless the routers support windows network stuff forwarding |
| 15:46.53 | tensai | nat sucks (not you redbeard2) |
| 15:47.06 | high_roller | install openwrt on the second wrt and set it to bridge, not NAT |
| 15:47.15 | high_roller | that's kinda what I do |
| 15:47.34 | redbeard2 | loves being an exception |
| 15:48.18 | tensai | you can disable nat without openwrt (although I do love openwrt) |
| 15:48.24 | bonez45 | so, do I want to NOT be running NAT? |
| 15:48.40 | tensai | it's likely that on your second router nat is causing problems |
| 15:48.44 | tensai | it's segmenting your network |
| 15:48.51 | bonez45 | SO, i need to not be running NAT on the second router.. right? |
| 15:48.53 | bonez45 | ok |
| 15:49.11 | tensai | it sounds like what you really need at that second location is just a switch |
| 15:49.39 | tensai | you could just plug everything into the lan ports and leave the wan port empty |
| 15:49.48 | tensai | and turn off dhcp |
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| 16:34.30 | ibot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind sinuhe, pokes sinuhe repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 16:34.43 | sinuhe | jphall: What? |
| 16:34.55 | jphall | sinuhe, was bored |
| 16:35.03 | sinuhe | Oh |
| 16:35.07 | sinuhe | ~poke jphall |
| 16:35.08 | ibot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind jphall, pokes jphall repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
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| 16:36.35 | sinuhe | ~define jphall |
| 16:36.36 | ibot | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 16:36.41 | sinuhe | ~dict jphall |
| 16:36.51 | sinuhe | Figures |
| 16:37.42 | goozbach | ~bzfrag both sinuhe and jphall |
| 16:37.42 | ibot | ACTION squishes both sinuhe and jphall with a steamroller |
| 16:38.17 | harleypig | ~harleypig #utah |
| 16:38.25 | harleypig | ~speedo #uta |
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| 16:38.29 | sinuhe | Thanks goozbach. We needed that. |
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| 16:43.08 | unum | so my computer seems to freeze up randomly for a few seconds at a time |
| 16:43.18 | unum | I've tried watching top, and etherape |
| 16:43.31 | unum | I haven't noticed anything, any ideas? |
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| 16:43.53 | goozbach | unum: my money says it's flash |
| 16:44.10 | tvc123 | ram? |
| 16:44.26 | unum | I wouldn't think it would freeze and unfreeze if it was hardware |
| 16:45.38 | unum | the flash stuff is a possiblity.... |
| 16:46.07 | goozbach | flash playing audio |
| 16:46.33 | unum | I have some of the swfdec stuff installed but it never worked... |
| 16:49.09 | goozbach | yay! |
| 16:49.16 | goozbach | stupid shuttle driver |
| 16:50.06 | goozbach | my sister in law was riding a shuttle from Idaho Falls to Ogden. |
| 16:50.44 | goozbach | She looked up when she saw the centerville exit she asked the driver "Um weren't you supposed to stop in Ogden?" |
| 16:52.16 | goozbach | he said "oh yeah, I forgot" then pulled off the next exit, and stopped and dropped her off in the MIDDLE of a K-Mart parking lot with all of her stuff |
| 16:52.38 | harleypig | I hope she didn't tip him and called his supervisor |
| 16:52.54 | goozbach | my wife is on the phone with customer service right now |
| 16:53.08 | sinuhe | Yay for UTA. |
| 16:53.27 | goozbach | it's not uta |
| 16:54.40 | goozbach | it's one of those shuttle services which go from SLC to various parts |
| 16:54.55 | harleypig | well, that's not hard ... I felt medium sized around him |
| 16:55.00 | harleypig | woops ... wrong window |
| 16:55.25 | harleypig | still learning irssi split screen ... can't believe I took this long to try it. |
| 16:56.08 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 16:58.27 | goozbach | so my 18 year old sister in law is standing in the middle of a K-Mart parking lot with all of here stuff. and she has no idea where she is |
| 16:58.53 | tvc123 | goozbach: wow that is just unbelievable |
| 16:59.09 | harleypig | Somewhere around centerville? |
| 16:59.23 | tvc123 | goozbach: have the shuttle service pay for a cab to take her home |
| 16:59.46 | tvc123 | we had to do that when they did things like left us at the airport all night |
| 17:01.45 | goozbach | my parents are on their way to pick her up right now |
| 17:02.27 | Tene | 18-year-old girl stranded somewhere in centerville... hmm... |
| 17:02.29 | Tene | >.> |
| 17:02.38 | Tene | bbl, gotta go run an "errand" |
| 17:02.49 | sinuhe | The Trib has an article on Mitt Romney's losing in Iowa as being due to Evangelical Anti-Mormon bias. |
| 17:03.04 | jphall | anyone want to say hi to a red hat class? |
| 17:03.08 | harleypig | I was thinking the same thing, except it's too far away for me to take a long lunch. |
| 17:03.12 | harleypig | :D |
| 17:03.16 | sinuhe | jphall: Huh? |
| 17:03.25 | jphall | ~lart sinuhe |
| 17:03.25 | ibot | whips out a hot clue gun and makes sure that sinuhe is stuck to the floor |
| 17:03.26 | Tene | Hi, Red Hat Class! |
| 17:03.32 | harleypig | jphall: hi RHC! |
| 17:03.36 | Tene | Do all your labs! |
| 17:03.39 | harleypig | Ignore anything he tells you! |
| 17:03.40 | Tene | And harass Joseph. |
| 17:03.59 | sinuhe | Tene: That's a given. |
| 17:04.04 | elg | and have him make you cookies |
| 17:04.06 | harleypig | And whatever you do, don't ask about speedos1 |
| 17:04.12 | sinuhe | elg: That is surely a given |
| 17:04.14 | elg | ~speedos1 |
| 17:04.15 | harleypig | s/speedos1/speedos!/ |
| 17:04.40 | harleypig | he probably cut us off after my first response ... :> |
| 17:05.30 | Tene | harleypig: so if I get out there to pick her up, do you have a place for us to stash her? |
| 17:05.56 | harleypig | Tene: heh ... no, but I can probably think of a couple of places ... |
| 17:06.15 | goozbach | Tene: it's too late |
| 17:06.20 | Tene | laaaaaame |
| 17:06.22 | goozbach | this story is alreay over |
| 17:06.28 | Tene | you need to give us more warning, gooz. |
| 17:06.33 | harleypig | :D |
| 17:06.43 | goozbach | because of the audience I "tape delayed" telling it |
| 17:07.12 | harleypig | goozbach: that's probably a good idea. |
| 17:07.26 | goozbach | I just found out another piece of info: there was no one else on the shuttle. |
| 17:07.29 | harleypig | or else, you're just saying that to give the poor girl some time to run away ... |
| 17:07.34 | Tene | harleypig: s'okay, we'll get the next one. |
| 17:07.45 | goozbach | nah, my parents just picked her up |
| 17:07.57 | harleypig | Tene: we'll just have to keep our eyes open |
| 17:08.43 | harleypig | jphall: this that same class you were telling me about yesterday? |
| 17:08.46 | goozbach | this latest tidbit raises two questions... |
| 17:09.16 | harleypig | ? the one about your parents picking her up? |
| 17:09.31 | Tene | about her being the only one in the shuttle |
| 17:09.32 | goozbach | 1) why couldn't the shuttle driver turn around and take her back to where she was supposed to be dropped off? (there were no other passengers using the shuttle to make a flight) |
| 17:09.55 | harleypig | that's easy ... he was lazy and/or wanted to go home |
| 17:09.56 | goozbach | 2) how could the driver forget his *ONLY* stop? |
| 17:10.27 | Tene | goozbach: he forgot that she was there at all |
| 17:10.50 | harleypig | *That's* a good question. small gauge copper wire, pliers and a lighter should get the answer for us. |
| 17:11.06 | tensai | I was the only passenger on a uta bus in provo once. the driver stopped at a bakery to grab a snack. |
| 17:11.14 | tensai | he was kind enough to ask if I wanted anything |
| 17:11.41 | goozbach | Tene: did he leave it running? |
| 17:11.51 | harleypig | goozbach: they rarely turn them off during the day. |
| 17:11.56 | tensai | you know I don't remember. probably. |
| 17:12.04 | Tene | ^5 tensai for tab-complete |
| 17:14.01 | harleypig | I can't believe they're gonna cancel TheMiddleMan! |
| 17:14.08 | jlp_work | WHAT!? |
| 17:14.19 | jlp_work | I love that show |
| 17:14.35 | harleypig | They haven't said they're going to cancel, but the next seasons shows haven't been picked up yet. |
| 17:14.45 | jlp_work | who do we call/write? |
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| 17:15.40 | sinuhe | Welcome sjansen. |
| 17:15.54 | sinuhe | ~whip sjansen |
| 17:15.55 | ibot | ACTION takes sjansen outside to be thoroughly whipped by sinuhe |
| 17:16.03 | sjansen | harumph |
| 17:16.12 | sinuhe | :-) |
| 17:16.14 | sjansen | ~steal sinuhe's whip |
| 17:16.15 | ibot | ACTION grabs sinuhe's whip and gives it to sjansen |
| 17:16.21 | sjansen | ~beat sinuhe |
| 17:16.21 | ibot | ACTION beats sinuhe with a very wet, sticky noodle |
| 17:16.30 | harleypig | jlp_work: http://themiddleblog.livejournal.com/34701.html has some info |
| 17:16.53 | jlp_work | thanks, harleypig |
| 17:16.57 | harleypig | yw |
| 17:18.30 | harleypig | has his ManCard replaced with a couple of very small berry fruits ... |
| 17:18.50 | harleypig | as;ldkf3w-98475ty3p9i4h5t |
| 17:19.08 | harleypig | friggin' frakkin' ... |
| 17:20.22 | harleypig | you're here |
| 17:20.26 | harleypig | oh ffs |
| 17:24.47 | sjansen | http://p-userpic.livejournal.com/77697679/1698768 |
| 17:26.49 | sjansen | Now imagine harleypig standing next to Neil Patrick Harris, dressed the same and singing along. |
| 17:31.45 | harleypig | sjansen: :D that'd be fun! |
| 17:32.12 | harleypig | wonder if NPH is into bears ... |
| 17:32.23 | harleypig | listens for the screams |
| 17:38.27 | tristanbob_ | http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/05/sun-microsystems-hopes-to-shake-up-storage-industry/ |
| 17:38.45 | redbeard2 | ~lart harleypig |
| 17:38.45 | ibot | shoves a crumpet down harleypig's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that? |
| 17:39.02 | redbeard2 | now i have a bunch of students asking me about speedos |
| 17:41.12 | harleypig | redbeard2: :] did you explain it to them? |
| 17:48.39 | sjansen | tristanbob: http://alumnit.ca/~apenwarr/log/?m=200809#08 <-- The statement "n addition, the difference between how long an expensive disk lasts versus a cheap disk has dwindled, making cheaper disks attractive." may not be entirely accurate. |
| 17:57.56 | unum | goozbach: removing the swf libraries really did seem to do the trick... |
| 17:59.02 | redbeard2 | harleypig: i wanted to show them a photo of you, but i can only find a headshot on plug.org |
| 17:59.34 | harleypig | redbeard2: hmmm ... which headshot is that? |
| 18:01.03 | harleypig | oh, that one. |
| 18:01.16 | harleypig | not very good for that purpose is it. |
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| 18:01.43 | redbeard2 | not really, no |
| 18:02.05 | goozbach | there's a shot on flickr of utosc |
| 18:02.10 | goozbach | better representation |
| 18:02.40 | redbeard2 | goozbach: link? |
| 18:03.06 | redbeard2 | harleypig: they did laugh when i hid the window, and then when i went back you had said something about how i was going to hide the window |
| 18:04.18 | harleypig | redbeard2: :] |
| 18:04.43 | harleypig | I wonder if picasaweb can link to flickr |
| 18:05.12 | harleypig | redbeard2: http://flickr.com/photos/memilyrae/tags/harleypig/ |
| 18:05.20 | sjansen | has an unfortunate flashback |
| 18:05.40 | sjansen | In case you ever wondered, no lard can not be substituted in cookie recipes. |
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| 18:06.43 | harleypig | sjansen: no kidding ... did you try? |
| 18:06.49 | redbeard2 | harleypig: grazie |
| 18:07.01 | harleypig | ? |
| 18:07.09 | goozbach | redbeard2: here's one with full effect: http://flickr.com/photos/memilyrae/2830107752/sizes/o/ |
| 18:07.27 | sjansen | harleypig: My mission companion did. Lard was the only grease we could find at the time. :-( |
| 18:07.35 | harleypig | ewwww |
| 18:07.44 | goozbach | sjansen: was it lard, or drippings? |
| 18:07.56 | sjansen | lard |
| 18:08.01 | goozbach | bacon chocolate chip cookies! |
| 18:08.16 | levi | Mmm, lard. |
| 18:09.11 | elg | sjansen: if it's clean enough (i.e. not too smelly) you can |
| 18:09.16 | harleypig | redbeard2: oh ... i was pronouncing that "rhymes with crazy" in my head. |
| 18:09.19 | elg | lots of people use lard in pie crust |
| 18:09.44 | harleypig | elg: yeah, but pie crust has a distinctive taste and texture ... which is not good for cookies. |
| 18:10.09 | elg | well the texture comes from the way it's made and the taste comes from the salt mostly and the other ingredients |
| 18:10.19 | goozbach | I don't know, I had pie crust rolled in cinnmon and sugar the other day |
| 18:10.24 | goozbach | it was a tasty cookie |
| 18:10.30 | elg | pie crust made with lard doesn't taste piggy any more than pie crust made with butter or shortening |
| 18:10.56 | goozbach | bimbuleos(sp?) are made with lard |
| 18:11.06 | harleypig | elg: goozbach mentioned bacon ... but cookies with lard just don't taste right. |
| 18:11.29 | elg | biscochitos too |
| 18:11.53 | goozbach | danish butter cookies? don't they have lard/shortening? |
| 18:12.38 | elg | just butter |
| 18:12.39 | elg | :) |
| 18:12.57 | goozbach | lard vs shortening? |
| 18:12.58 | goozbach | hmm |
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| 18:13.04 | goozbach | will have to experiment |
| 18:15.56 | elg | nifty http://www.buckleyplanet.com/2007/11/reactable-on-su.html |
| 18:21.33 | Sargun_Screen | ScytheBlade1: you there |
| 18:21.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Sargun_Screen: I am |
| 18:21.59 | ScytheBlade1 | pokes his head back in here after a few... a long while |
| 18:23.20 | Sargun_Screen | ScytheBlade1: look in ##networking any commentary? |
| 18:23.39 | ScytheBlade1 | I wasn't in there so I've got no clue as to context |
| 18:23.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I've also got to leave for class in about 15, so... |
| 18:24.00 | Sargun_Screen | err, nevermind |
| 18:24.03 | Sargun_Screen | then |
| 18:24.21 | Sargun_Screen | i was talking about contextual networks |
| 18:24.52 | goozbach | ~shave sjansen |
| 18:24.53 | ibot | ACTION grabs the razor & shaving cream & chases sjansen until he sees TheRedBaron... then grabs TheRedbaron & dry shaves TheRedBaron from head to toe! |
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| 18:35.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Sargun_Screen: gotta head, if you want to poke me later feel free. |
| 18:35.27 | ScytheBlade1 | poofs to class |
| 18:44.53 | sjansen | elg: I first read that url as "bucky planet" and was bracing myself. |
| 18:45.07 | elg | heh |
| 19:13.07 | levi | elg: http://www.linusakesson.net/music/reverberations/ |
| 19:15.51 | levi | Bach organ music played on a C64 + some convolution reverb. |
| 19:22.21 | unum | anyone here use the odf toolkit? |
| 19:36.16 | elg | levi: fun |
| 19:36.36 | elg | the actual performances aren't particularly musical, but it's definitely fun to do and listen to |
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| 19:40.01 | lakshmi-treo | hi |
| 19:40.26 | tensai | elg: reactable looks like fun |
| 19:40.49 | elg | tensai: sure does |
| 19:40.56 | elg | tensai: did you see my video link yesterday |
| 19:41.06 | tensai | chiles? |
| 19:41.09 | elg | yegge has an interesting post on touch typing |
| 19:41.10 | elg | yes |
| 19:41.23 | tensai | I saw the chiles, both of them |
| 19:41.28 | elg | but the real reason everyone should know how to touch type is so you don't get left behind in IRC or PLUG flame wars |
| 19:41.53 | tensai | I was really surprised that my 6yo is learning touch typing in 1st grade |
| 19:42.00 | sjansen | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOy9cDiJkaA |
| 19:42.01 | tensai | in the second week of school |
| 19:42.14 | ^Migs^ | you don't think they should be learning that? |
| 19:42.17 | elg | 1st grade is what 5 yearsish? |
| 19:42.27 | tensai | 6 |
| 19:42.40 | elg | i was learning to play piano at that age |
| 19:43.04 | tensai | ^Migs^: not that I disagree. just surprised. kinda telling about how computers have become ingrained. |
| 19:43.11 | elg | my son is almost 4. i've started thinking of getting him into playing some melodies on the piano |
| 19:43.23 | elg | not reading music, just playing by ear (no technique really either) |
| 19:43.56 | elg | sjansen: man those people are moving really slow |
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| 20:31.03 | ^Migs^ | oh sweet...Dropbox.com now supports Linux |
| 20:31.16 | ^Migs^ | getdropbox.com, rather |
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| 20:38.44 | jsmith-teaching | TimRiker: Did you find a taker for that E10k? If not, I know someone who wants it |
| 20:48.55 | harleypig | Where the heck is "My voice is my password from" |
| 20:49.16 | goozbach | harleypig: sneakers the movie |
| 20:49.23 | harleypig | goozbach: ohhh ... right. thx |
| 20:51.48 | harleypig | it's all flooding back now ... "ummm ... whistler ... you're blind!" |
| 20:56.49 | harleypig | Cattle mutilations are up ... |
| 21:00.55 | unum | I'm driving! |
| 21:02.18 | goozbach | I need to add that movie to my netflix queue |
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| 21:09.25 | TimRiker | jsmith-away: I did find a home for it but the owner decided to hang on to it for "a bit longer". |
| 21:09.33 | unum | Then we drove through a cocktail party. |
| 21:10.38 | TimRiker | harleypig: "My voice is my passport. Verify me" iirc. |
| 21:12.43 | harleypig | yeah |
| 21:14.00 | goozbach | "a cocktail party?!" |
| 21:14.40 | goozbach | "What did it sound like? The bridge you were on. What did it sound like?" |
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| 21:22.15 | harleypig | The McKenzie Bros! |
| 21:22.26 | harleypig | I need to find them for my oldest boy ... |
| 21:22.36 | harleypig | or was it MacKenzie |
| 21:29.22 | nick125 | I've seen that name spelt both ways |
| 21:29.27 | nick125 | the latter being more common |
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| 21:37.59 | harleypig | Can I just do the last 10 years over again? |
| 21:38.12 | harleypig | I wish life had save games. |
| 21:38.23 | Tene | yarly |
| 21:41.26 | elg | harleypig: if you're buddhist, there's at least a restart buttn |
| 21:56.21 | harleypig | elg: Not really a restart so much as a respawn. |
| 21:56.46 | harleypig | wonders where the respawn points are and what would happen if he respawn camped ... |
| 21:56.57 | Tene | harleypig: maternity ward at the hospital |
| 21:58.36 | goozbach | and the answer to the second question: probally get arrested for tresspassing on hospital grounds with an armed weapon |
| 21:58.58 | Tene | an armed weapon? even your weapon has weapons? |
| 21:59.08 | harleypig | Tene: I thought about that, but it'd be too easy ... there has to be some point in the world where the spirits return after resting in the great beyond. |
| 21:59.18 | harleypig | Tene: No, actual arms ... |
| 21:59.24 | Tene | Ack. |
| 21:59.43 | harleypig | my world gives surreal a whole new meaning |
| 21:59.59 | jlp_work | are they at least beefy arms? |
| 22:00.12 | harleypig | jlp_work: ... |
| 22:00.23 | harleypig | jlp_work: I ... |
| 22:00.41 | jlp_work | (think "Trogdor, the burninator") |
| 22:00.44 | harleypig | Why in the world did that question make me stop and go 'Huh?!' |
| 22:02.25 | jlp_work | harleypig: no idea |
| 22:02.33 | jlp_work | it was a fairly innocuous question |
| 22:07.46 | harleypig | jlp_work: yeah, especially considering the bizarreness of the conversation. |
| 22:07.53 | harleypig | myabe it all just caught up with me. |
| 22:08.16 | jlp_work | maybe. one thing, we killed all other conversation on the channel |
| 22:08.26 | jlp_work | so some good came out of it |
| 22:08.31 | harleypig | I noticed that. I seem to have a tendency to do that. |
| 22:08.33 | harleypig | :D |
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| 22:09.00 | jlp_work | slips quietly back into lurk mode |
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| 23:15.54 | levi | Hmm, I started up iTunes 8 and it promptly hung trying to do some album art thing. |
| 23:16.29 | levi | Second time it worked. Weird. |
| 23:25.29 | harleypig | anyone used dropbox? it looks good, but what's the real world info on it? |
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