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00:48.28 | maquis | emcnabb: how's it going? |
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02:49.00 | levi | Gah, so much crap to install for Visual Studio. |
03:03.53 | epp | yeh man |
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03:26.19 | tensai | oh I just missed elg |
04:05.01 | levi | Hmm, I can't get Windows Vista to browse the computers on the VPN connection. |
04:05.44 | Tene | Within the past few months I've started to pick up the "snarky responses whenever someone can't do something with Windows" habit. |
04:05.47 | Tene | I never used to do that. |
04:05.51 | Tene | I wonder where I got this from. |
04:07.05 | Sargun | haha. |
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04:16.34 | levi | This is really annoying. |
04:18.59 | Sargun | what is? |
04:23.57 | epp | levi I hear you |
05:01.02 | levi | I gave up. |
05:07.24 | Sargun | use XP? |
05:12.43 | levi | I could browse the windows network in XP, but I still couldn't find my work desktop. |
05:13.35 | levi | I had just installed something that wanted me to reboot, maybe that screwed it up. |
05:13.45 | Sargun | can you put in |
05:13.50 | Sargun | \\workdesktop's IP\ |
05:14.26 | epp | \\Hostname |
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05:17.53 | levi | Nope, neither of those worked. |
05:18.00 | Sargun | uhm |
05:18.01 | Sargun | give up. |
05:18.12 | levi | Yeah. |
05:18.15 | Sargun | levi, Can't you ask IT? |
05:18.19 | Sargun | and yell at them |
05:19.40 | levi | I'll be in the office tomorrow. |
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07:24.23 | Sargun | levi, Is the only way to read %EIP in x86 ASM through call and popl? |
07:26.17 | levi | Yes. |
07:26.21 | Sargun | _fakefun: |
07:26.21 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
07:26.22 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
07:26.34 | Sargun | So that'll work for a function that extracts %eip |
07:27.13 | Sargun | So, there is -no- way to manipulate EIP directly? |
07:27.29 | levi | Not according to Wikipedia, anyway. |
07:27.36 | Tene | magnetized pin and a steady hand. |
07:28.45 | Sargun | LHC is supposed to turn on in a little more than a minute. |
07:29.06 | Sargun | they'll probably be late. |
07:31.43 | tensai | they're not colliding anything yet |
07:32.01 | Sargun | Oh |
07:32.05 | Sargun | when are they doing that |
07:32.15 | Sargun | october? |
07:32.51 | Sargun | The collider is currently undergoing commissioning while being cooled down to its final operating temperature of approximately 1.9 K (?271.25 ?C). Initial particle beam injections were successfully carried out on 11 August 2008[2][3]and the first attempt to circulate a beam through the entire LHC is scheduled for 10 September 2008 at 7:00 UTC.[4][5] This event will be webcast.[5][4] The first high-energy collisions are planned to take place after t |
07:32.51 | Sargun | he LHC is officially unveiled, on 21 October 2008.[6] |
07:34.28 | Sargun | We're not dead. |
07:34.33 | Sargun | I guess that's good. |
07:40.08 | Supaplex | but why? |
07:40.09 | Supaplex | -excuse |
07:41.09 | tensai | the idea that the earth will be destroyed is ludicrous. it just ain't gonna happen. |
07:41.46 | tensai | one of the guys who filed suit to stop the lhc also filed a similar suit to stop a smaller collider in the states |
07:42.28 | Supaplex | oh noes! Science is witchcraft in disguise! halp! </panic> |
07:42.55 | tensai | basically |
07:43.31 | Sargun | they failed to make the beams collide. |
07:43.38 | Tene | LHC is actually a massive summoning circle |
07:43.52 | Tene | summon satan to earth, destroy mountains, etc. |
07:43.58 | Supaplex | haha |
07:55.59 | tensai | ~lart macrovision |
07:56.00 | ibot | resizes macrovision's terminal to 40x24 |
07:56.25 | Tene | http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/09/09/live-blogging-the-lhc-startup/ |
07:59.20 | tensai | http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/ |
08:25.54 | Tene | http://wwitv.com/a1/b3219.asx -- live LHC stream |
08:27.15 | Tene | LHC just completed its first full loop, it looks like. |
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15:53.55 | levi | Good morning, #utah! |
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16:18.35 | ^Migs^ | http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/ |
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16:19.48 | elg | http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/ |
16:19.50 | unum | I wish I would have lot of the xkcd line last night |
16:20.05 | *** topic/#utah by elg -> http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | http://www.8bitpeoples.com/ | http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/ |
16:32.34 | Jayce^ | elg, nice there is a status page so we can check up.. |
16:32.54 | Jayce^ | the RSS feed will be really useful |
16:33.05 | tvc123 | mmm rss then I won't have to check the news to know when the world has ended |
16:33.56 | elg | be sure to view source |
16:34.01 | tvc123 | the qustion remains if it says yes do I check shashdot or cnn to confirm |
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17:02.49 | levi | http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2005/08/29/050829fa_fact?currentPage=all |
17:11.23 | ^Migs^ | OLD |
17:13.33 | levi | Does that make it irrelevant? |
17:14.58 | ^Migs^ | http://www.shacknews.com/images/image-o-matic.x?/images/sshots/Screenshot/10698/10698_48c7161254f4d_preview.jpg |
17:21.34 | goozbach | coolest haircut EVAR! http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/dan/rock_insane/spector2.jpg |
17:24.24 | maquis | waits desperately for someone to post the next comment in her RPG |
17:24.45 | levi | You have a rocket-propelled grenade? |
17:24.55 | maquis | it's pretty fun to play a completely irresponsible kid who isn't all that smart... |
17:26.05 | Sargun_Screen | when are they going to collide the beams in the lhc? |
17:27.34 | fozzmoo | couple weeks. |
17:27.43 | levi | They're crossing the beams? Uh oh! |
17:28.05 | fozzmoo | levi: Nothing can go wrong. |
17:28.10 | fozzmoo | ;-) |
17:31.06 | Jayce^ | goozbach, you need to grow that out.. |
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17:32.27 | maquis | goozbach: that's a scary haircut |
17:32.27 | goozbach | Jayce^: I've been thinking about it |
17:32.45 | goozbach | maquis: no, it's a scary guy, and an AWESOME haircut |
17:32.48 | maquis | high voltage electricity? |
17:35.08 | maquis | ack! this station isn't buffering! |
17:36.44 | levi | "high energy protons spilling over into our atmosphere" |
17:38.14 | harleypig | what about low energy tachyons? |
17:41.25 | harleypig | is that what low energy tachyons do? make eggyknap quit? |
17:42.28 | harleypig | $stats->PH_stats |
17:42.33 | harleypig | err ... |
17:42.37 | harleypig | wrong window |
17:42.45 | levi | They fail to exist. |
17:42.59 | harleypig | Can you prove that? |
17:43.23 | harleypig | Keep in mind that I'm an unreasonable person. |
17:43.31 | levi | No. |
17:43.44 | harleypig | Yes I am! |
17:43.54 | levi | Yes. |
17:44.04 | harleypig | You can prove the don't exist? |
17:44.08 | harleypig | s/the/they/ |
17:44.14 | harleypig | See what I mean? |
17:44.15 | levi | I cannot. |
17:44.29 | harleypig | What're you? a retarded Eliza bot? |
17:44.46 | levi | Tell me how you feel about retarded Eliza bots. |
17:45.05 | harleypig | monkey wanna be |
17:47.39 | harleypig | the bots |
17:47.45 | harleypig | the bots are monkey wanna be's! |
17:53.08 | elg | levi: good article |
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17:53.22 | ^Migs^ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXdFSWqJWkI |
17:53.29 | elg | health care and health insurance both are severely broken here |
17:55.50 | elg | nice ending |
17:58.39 | levi | Only Germany and the USA, out of the G8, do not have universal health coverage of some sort. Germany's coverage percentage is in the 90s, while ours is below 50. |
18:00.27 | levi | tries to figure out how to write an ISR for uC/OS. |
18:00.45 | elg | in C or assembly |
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18:01.03 | levi | Parts in both. |
18:01.10 | elg | with a text editor or ide |
18:01.16 | elg | using a compiler or assembler |
18:01.24 | elg | using a computer |
18:01.27 | elg | by ignoring harleypig |
18:01.29 | elg | is so helpful |
18:01.30 | levi | The initial ISR needs to be in asm, but it's mostly a stub to call a C function. |
18:01.48 | levi | Well, considering I give that kind of help all the time, I deserve it right back. ;) |
18:01.53 | levi | I've mostly figured it out, I think. |
18:02.45 | bonez45 | help.. I just was running, at 1600x1200, all I did was shut down, plug my machine back in and boot back up , after moving some cords and rearranging where my machine is set.. now, I can't get anything higher than 800x600 resolution.. WHY WHY WHY WHY? |
18:03.07 | Sargun_Screen | ouch |
18:03.13 | Sargun_Screen | what gpu? |
18:03.44 | bonez45 | it's on motherboard.. via.. rhine, it says.. the resolution was great, and now.. it's way reduced.. |
18:04.27 | levi | Perhaps the result of a software update that you didn't reboot immediately afterward? |
18:04.42 | bonez45 | well, I have shut down and rebooted a few times now.. |
18:05.04 | bonez45 | the video hardware on the mobo, AND the installed software and drivers, had it working just fine, before the power down.. |
18:05.08 | Sargun_Screen | will cygwin run inside of wine? |
18:08.46 | ^Migs^ | what about vmware? |
18:08.57 | ^Migs^ | could you run that inside wine? |
18:09.48 | Sargun_Screen | no |
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18:45.50 | elg | ~onjoin dataw0lf RSpec < Test::Unit |
18:45.50 | ibot | elg: ok |
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19:09.49 | brasto | a co-worker of mine noticed that my Sandisk Cruzer was transferring at USB 1.1 speeds when he put a file on it. I looked at the packaging after that since it was supposed to be USB 2.0. Turns out that it's only USB 2.0 on high-powered USB ports. |
19:09.51 | tensai | levi: good article. I'll have to re-read the mccain and obama health proposals again in a new light. |
19:11.24 | brasto | Now I wonder, is that normal for all USB flash drives to require high powered usb ports? |
19:13.43 | unum | the thing that usually bites people with usb flash drives are memory speed |
19:14.26 | unum | 2.0 usb great! now I'm going to write to the drive at 4x |
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19:14.44 | tensai | levi: have you seen the pbs documentary about health care? I think it was on Frontline. |
19:15.15 | tensai | http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/ |
19:19.58 | ^Migs^ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-XbjFn3aqE |
19:22.26 | harleypig | Ok, here's an image for all y'all! |
19:22.33 | harleypig | I'm buying a mini-notebook ... |
19:22.47 | harleypig | now picture me laying in the tub with it on my stomach ... just like an otter! |
19:22.48 | harleypig | :> |
19:24.53 | goozbach | sandblasts his eyes |
19:25.05 | goozbach | you scared sjansen right off the internet! |
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19:29.14 | harleypig | heh |
19:29.26 | elg | ^Migs^: that's so yesterday |
19:29.27 | harleypig | blame Jayce^, he's the one who came up with the idea. |
19:35.19 | ^Migs^ | sorry |
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19:42.30 | unum | gives up on using and gouges out his own eyes instead |
19:42.51 | unum | s/using/using uno |
19:43.15 | harleypig | using? using what? I just found out about salvia ... it's legal for now ... that means I can take it right? |
19:43.44 | unum | is it natural? |
19:43.55 | unum | if it's natural you should take as much of it as you can afford |
19:43.55 | harleypig | yep |
19:44.03 | harleypig | heh |
19:44.04 | unum | natural stuff is ALWAYS good for you |
19:44.15 | RyanE | harleypig: so you're like an otter in the fact that you're going to rip open the mini-notebook and eat the guts? :) |
19:44.21 | harleypig | really? So alchohol ... pot ... peyote ... |
19:44.28 | harleypig | RyanE: :D |
19:44.31 | RyanE | isn't that what they do with things they balance on their stomachs? |
19:44.38 | harleypig | RyanE: usually |
19:44.48 | harleypig | but you're ignoring the image itself ... |
19:44.55 | RyanE | forcefully, yes. :) |
19:44.55 | harleypig | tries to poke RyanE |
19:45.00 | harleypig | heh |
19:45.00 | RyanE | ow! My eye! |
19:45.20 | harleypig | oh ... sorry dude ... |
19:45.29 | harleypig | here ... lemme help ... |
19:45.37 | harleypig | produces another disturbing image. |
19:45.44 | unum | harleypig: yep they are all good for you |
19:45.44 | RyanE | So, if I teach a training class that starts with 100 people, and 2 hours in (out of 3), 40 of the people have left, is that good or bad? :) |
19:46.54 | Jayce^ | RyanE, depends, did they leave screaming, clutching at their heads? |
19:47.08 | RyanE | Jayce^: yeah, basically. |
19:47.29 | RyanE | It was a class at an industry show, voluntary. A bit over their heads, I suppose. |
19:48.31 | RyanE | still, I'm flattered that 100 people (the first day) came to the class, I suppose. |
19:49.40 | harleypig | unum: :] thx ... now I have someone I can blame! |
19:50.15 | harleypig | RyanE: that's only 40% ... 60% stayed, which means that's a (barely) passing grade ... |
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19:50.48 | RyanE | yeah, and the 60 that came the next day, again, lost about 40%. At least I'm consistently baffling... |
19:51.08 | RyanE | I guess I shouldn't change my career and apply at GL anytime soon. :) |
19:51.23 | Jayce^ | dunno, they might have some kind of award for that |
19:51.41 | RyanE | On the bright side, I did manage to get my fat head into pictures of our booth on Engadget... :) |
19:51.46 | harleypig | I think GL might actually make you even more baffling to the average Joe. |
19:51.59 | harleypig | heh ... redbeard2 excluded of course. |
19:52.24 | harleypig | you're a fathead? |
19:52.56 | RyanE | yeah. No hair on top accentuates it, too. :) |
19:53.08 | Jayce^ | ~wig RyanE |
19:53.36 | RyanE | http://www.engadgethd.com/photos/control4-cedia-2008-booth-tour/1020883/ |
19:53.58 | harleypig | :D |
19:55.14 | sjansen | Oh yeah, 8-bits and 120 beats per second! |
19:55.59 | RyanE | What, you got a hummingbird heart rate monitor? :) |
19:58.02 | goozbach | sjansen: link? |
19:59.08 | sjansen | goozbach: http://www.chiptunes.org/files/ <--- You'll need a mod player. |
20:01.55 | RyanE | Sort of like the 'computer' version of this: http://www.tinfoil.com/ |
20:12.53 | sjansen | I'm sure GL would love to hire you. Especially if you bring Dax a bunch of those gadgets for his house. ;-) |
20:15.45 | ^Migs^ | http://www.theonion.com/content/opinion/hey_where_did_all_my_stuff_go?utm_source=onion_rss_daily |
20:20.03 | unum | I'm not an onion fan, but that was kind of funny |
20:20.23 | sjansen | Oh, wow, the theme from The Good, the Bad & the Ugly in 8 bit! |
20:27.19 | tensai | elg: http://www.zmonkey.org/~tensai/relleno.jpg |
20:27.32 | elg | sweet |
20:27.37 | elg | how did they turn out? |
20:27.41 | tensai | elg: this batch turned out much much better. amazing what a difference roasting the peppers makes. |
20:27.45 | elg | that reminds me I have a vid to upload to outub |
20:28.01 | tensai | used a combo of cream cheese and mozzarella, with a dash of chipotle powder |
20:28.07 | tensai | it was just spicy enough |
20:28.24 | tensai | they got soft pretty quick after coming out of the oil |
20:29.37 | elg | yeah, they do that |
20:29.52 | elg | you want them nice and crisp and then to get that oil off |
20:30.10 | elg | you didn't roast the chiles the first time? |
20:30.18 | elg | i assume you peeled this as well as roasted |
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20:34.12 | opapo_ | is there a way to see active threads on a postgres database? |
20:36.33 | tensai | elg: first time was a total failure. I neglected to roast and peel them. horrible results. |
20:36.54 | tensai | this time I used a different pepper (anaheim vs poblano) and yes I did roast and peel them |
20:37.12 | elg | yeah, that skin is no fun to eat |
20:37.22 | elg | not to mention i'm sure your batter didn't stick to it |
20:37.35 | tensai | I found that putting a little dab of cheese on the handle of a fork was a nice way to deposit the creamy goodness all the way to the tip |
20:37.48 | tensai | very true. it was like acid off a duck's back. |
20:38.19 | Jayce^ | blinks... |
20:38.20 | harleypig | tensai licks ducks? |
20:38.43 | tensai | it's from a Far Side cartoon |
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20:40.40 | eggyknap | opapo: postgresql is single-threaded. |
20:40.52 | eggyknap | however, select * from pg_stat_activity; will show you running backends |
20:41.04 | eggyknap | (note: it's multi-process, not multi-threaded) |
20:41.40 | opapo | in mysql administrator I run "Show full processlist" and it shows the queries that people are running |
20:41.50 | opapo | does that work in postgres? |
20:42.14 | eggyknap | Yeah, log in to psql and run that query -- it will do the same thing, provided you have adequate permissions and the right stuff turned on in your config to allow it. |
20:42.37 | opapo | thanks |
20:42.46 | eggyknap | yw |
20:52.42 | ^Migs^ | http://www.theonion.com/content/news/scientists_create_largest_novelty_atom |
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21:02.31 | levi | Mmmm, domestic violence prevention training. |
21:03.00 | eggyknap | opapo: belated follow up response: pgadmin probably has something quite similar. I don't use pgadmin, but people getting introduced to PostgreSQL seem to like it. |
21:05.24 | levi | tensai: I hadn't seen it, but I'll have to check it out. |
21:06.50 | levi | Ack, my aunt had 3 major seizures last night, and they still can't stabilize her. :( |
21:07.14 | elg | out of the blue? |
21:07.36 | levi | No, she's been fighting cancer for a long time. |
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21:08.53 | levi | I saw her at a family reunion just last weekend. |
21:10.28 | levi | I don't know if it's a local thing or what, but she's going to be on Eggo Waffles boxes really soon because they're doing a cancer survivors thing. |
21:16.14 | levi | Time to go to class. |
21:17.44 | elg | tensai: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0Go9i5jyqkY |
21:23.32 | elg | that's the chille relleno video I recorded back in spring (may I think, by the onion sets package on the counter) |
21:23.43 | elg | finally got around to editing and uploading it |
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21:34.12 | Tene | elg: why did you upload to uk.youtube.com? |
21:40.45 | elg | i uploaded it to youtube, they're all the same. the url is uk because somewhere along the line I set uk for my preference country |
21:41.14 | Tene | Why'd you do that? |
21:41.28 | elg | dunno |
21:41.33 | elg | must have seemed like a good idea |
21:41.39 | elg | this video isn't bad either. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BeLQNnDYFUk&feature=related |
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21:43.10 | elg | it's that time of year here where you go to the grocery store and people are buying bushels of chile and having them roasted outside |
21:43.18 | elg | the smell of roasting chile fills the air |
21:43.37 | Tene | Mmm... roasted chiles... |
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21:43.58 | Jayce^ | is trying to decide on drying or canning his chile's |
21:45.33 | elg | what's wrong with roasting skinning and freezing? |
21:45.39 | elg | er, roasting and freezing |
21:45.44 | elg | you skin them on the other side |
21:48.06 | Tene | That might be fun to try cooking tonight. |
21:49.20 | Jayce^ | maybe that too |
22:08.21 | {-} | Plug tonight? |
22:22.06 | {-} | Anyone know if Plug is meeting tonight? |
22:22.19 | {-} | rsimpkins: I'm looking at you. |
22:22.46 | Tene | Not if he's not here, you're not. |
22:22.48 | Tene | /kick ... |
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22:27.34 | tristanbob_ | Sun xVM server released today |
22:27.43 | tristanbob_ | http://www.sun.com/launch/2008-0910/index.jsp?intcmp=hp2008sep10_xvm_chat-webcast |
22:27.53 | bonez45 | I have a friend who is getting a PC from her father.. wants me to save the pics on it, and a few files, and then I'll reformat.. load ubuntu and set up openoffice and a few other things...for this friend.. what should I charge? I figure it will take me an hour or two... |
22:28.09 | bonez45 | ideas? |
22:28.18 | tristanbob_ | 4 pizzas |
22:28.28 | tristanbob_ | and a backrub |
22:29.16 | bonez45 | hmmmm a backrub... from this lady...yeah, that would work...;) |
22:29.20 | Tene | bonez45: I've seen rates for that anywhere from $20/hr to $80/hr |
22:29.36 | bonez45 | I don't mind trade.. I'll ask her what it's worth.... |
22:29.45 | Tene | My standard policy with friends is "I'll do this for you. If you want to pay me for it, pay me whatever you feel like paying." |
22:29.51 | Tene | For small jobs, at least. |
22:33.47 | unum | ya |
22:33.56 | unum | especially cute sing female friends.... |
22:34.06 | unum | s/sing/single |
22:39.01 | Sargun | bonez45, Aren't you a Chiropractor? |
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22:46.38 | {-} | http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html |
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22:52.51 | bonez45 | Sargun yes, I am a Chiropractor |
22:53.18 | Sargun | Ya get to work on attractive women ever>? |
22:53.30 | bonez45 | this is a friend who just needs some tech help... plus I have a chance of converting someone from winders over to Linux |
22:53.43 | bonez45 | attractive women... yes... that always makes work very nice.. |
22:56.41 | Tene | I've been meaning to ask if you ever trade sysadmin work for chiropractic work. |
22:57.16 | bonez45 | Tene: well, yes, I have traded my services for sysadmin and config services...;) |
23:01.28 | bonez45 | Tene: ? still here/ |
23:03.35 | {-} | There is no Tene. There is only Xul. |
23:03.50 | bonez45 | Xul, eh? |
23:04.24 | bonez45 | Tene: how do I respond to you in a private window? |
23:10.15 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
23:12.20 | bonez45 | elg: thanks Doc...;) |
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23:16.19 | harleypig | This last August marked 20 years (to the month) since my last drink. |
23:16.25 | harleypig | I'm going to celebrate by getting drunk. |
23:16.47 | Tene | What are you going to drink? |
23:17.02 | harleypig | My old friend Jack. |
23:25.19 | Sargun | harleypig, with who? |
23:27.29 | harleypig | I drink alone, yeah, with nobody else. |
23:27.30 | harleypig | Yeah, you know when I drink alone, I prefer to be by myself. |
23:27.52 | harleypig | I'm not really going to get drunk ... |
23:28.03 | harleypig | heaven forfend my kids seeing me like that ... |
23:28.08 | harleypig | my 14 year old would go hog wild. |
23:28.32 | harleypig | not to mention the fact that I'm on the tail end of a divorce ... don't need the ... other person getting wind of it ... :/ |
23:29.11 | tensai | besides, you seem crazy enough without the sauce |
23:29.40 | harleypig | I (used) to get quiet ... except when i was looking for a fight. |
23:31.17 | bonez45 | ah... drinking... been a long long time since I had a drink o' ethanol.... I reckon at least 24 years.... |
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23:39.59 | harleypig | have we found out about plug tonight? |
23:40.49 | Tene | Seems like there are enough people interested to have a meeting regardless. |
23:41.23 | harleypig | If not, I'm gonna go grab a movie. |
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23:52.23 | bonez45 | are any meetings held in Sandy ? I know I went to one at the Philadelphian one time.. several months ago |
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