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| 02:58.23 | eightyeight | so, who has windows and has been playing with chrome? |
| 03:03.40 | synic | coworker had it running |
| 03:03.51 | synic | looks pretty awesome |
| 03:08.04 | high_roller | does it run under wine? |
| 03:08.09 | synic | nope |
| 03:08.19 | synic | never even got the installer to launch |
| 03:08.41 | high_roller | :( |
| 03:08.43 | high_roller | weak |
| 03:10.21 | eightyeight | i'd like to give it a run. seems to have completely innovated what has been thus far a dead browser space |
| 03:11.12 | synic | I love the minimalistic interface |
| 03:11.22 | synic | can't wait for the lunix version to show up |
| 03:12.01 | eightyeight | and bsd-licensed to boot, which means we should see it in the repos |
| 03:17.48 | Sargun | chrome = mozilla component. |
| 03:17.54 | Sargun | I thought it was trademarked |
| 03:19.35 | eightyeight | chrome is also on my wheels and sink faucet |
| 03:19.55 | synic | heh, probably. Debian will probably change name to 'shinymetalcrap' |
| 03:20.10 | eightyeight | heh |
| 03:20.16 | synic | or 'firesquirrel' |
| 03:20.29 | eightyeight | no, it'll be rust |
| 03:20.38 | synic | ah, nice! |
| 03:20.49 | eightyeight | because just as ice is not fire, and a weasel is not a fox, rust is not chrome |
| 03:21.18 | synic | except rust actually sounds kinda cool, and debian can't have that. |
| 03:21.22 | eightyeight | heh |
| 03:21.37 | eightyeight | funchrome |
| 03:23.39 | Sargun | http://dev.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/build-instructions-linux |
| 03:24.54 | Sargun | first person to build it isn't a rotten egg! |
| 03:26.12 | eightyeight | Sargun: http://jldugger.livejournal.com/16704.html |
| 03:27.14 | levi | I've been running Chrome. I like it. |
| 03:27.38 | levi | You can build *parts* of it in Linux and OS X, but nothing usable. |
| 03:28.00 | eightyeight | levi: how's the process-per-tab? |
| 03:28.31 | levi | eightyeight: It's not precisely 'process-per-tab'. There's a document on their site that describes how the multi-process modes work. |
| 03:29.13 | eightyeight | how does it feel? |
| 03:29.14 | levi | The default mode is more like 'process-per-session', which can span multiple tabs if a page opens another page in a new window. |
| 03:29.42 | levi | Feels pretty snappy, though some things seem to be a little slower. |
| 03:30.09 | eightyeight | like what? |
| 03:30.47 | levi | It's hard to say. I don't have any hard details, just some vague feelings. |
| 03:31.48 | levi | Raw javascript performance is excellent, and rendering performance seems to be very good (as you'd expect from Webkit) but I think there are some areas to improve still. |
| 03:32.21 | eightyeight | reading the comic, v8 seems to bring a lot of performance improvements to the browser |
| 03:32.45 | synic | heh, I didn't even hear about chrome until this weekend. How long has it been known to the public? |
| 03:33.04 | Tene | today |
| 03:33.14 | eightyeight | i read about it last night. :) |
| 03:33.15 | Tene | well, yesterday the comic was released |
| 03:33.28 | eightyeight | levi: how does the speed compare here: http://celtickane.com/webdesign/jsspeed.php |
| 03:34.29 | levi | I don't know, I'm not using it right now since I'm on my Mac. |
| 03:34.54 | eightyeight | ahh. ok |
| 03:36.07 | Sargun | Webkit has some issues. |
| 03:36.11 | Sargun | (stability) |
| 03:36.16 | levi | I saw some reddit comment where a guy claimed it was kind of slow at doing certain kinds of DOM manipulation and InnerHTML stuff. |
| 03:36.26 | levi | Sargun has some issues. |
| 03:36.49 | eightyeight | Sargun: how is webkit not stable? |
| 03:36.54 | Sargun | my employer directly works with Google, so I can't comment |
| 03:36.55 | Sargun | :-( |
| 03:37.15 | Sargun | stupid lawyers |
| 03:37.28 | eightyeight | what? |
| 03:37.51 | levi | It's so unstable that several browsers on a number of different platforms have chosen it as their web engine. |
| 03:38.31 | Sargun | eightyeight, my employer has a nifty little contract with Google |
| 03:38.47 | eightyeight | Sargun: what does that have to do with your opinion about its stability? |
| 03:38.49 | Sargun | which prevents me from commenting about google products until a certain date |
| 03:38.54 | Sargun | sometime in october. |
| 03:38.57 | levi | It certainly can't compare with the rock-solid reliability of gecko and IE. :P |
| 03:39.07 | Sargun | Oh, regarding the stability... |
| 03:39.18 | eightyeight | yeah... that's what i asked |
| 03:39.45 | Sargun | "Webkit-dev" (The version google is using) is apples and oranges when compared to "WebKit-stable" |
| 03:40.09 | Sargun | they redid quite a bit of the DOM, and parser |
| 03:40.32 | levi | Wow, a dev-branch is less stable than the stable branch? |
| 03:40.34 | Sargun | the webkit-stable doesn't GC correctly, etc... |
| 03:40.38 | Sargun | levi, |
| 03:40.40 | levi | This is a shocking revelation! |
| 03:40.41 | Sargun | no, vice-versa... |
| 03:40.49 | Sargun | dev is more stable. |
| 03:41.20 | Sargun | levi, have you ever run Konqueror, or safari 3? |
| 03:41.29 | Sargun | uhm, konqueror 3 |
| 03:41.33 | levi | Yeah, I've run Safari 3. |
| 03:41.38 | eightyeight | i do. i run safari on my imac at home. love it |
| 03:41.51 | levi | The only browser I've had crash on me regularly is Firefox. |
| 03:42.00 | levi | Lately, anyway. |
| 03:42.08 | Sargun | IE? |
| 03:42.14 | levi | I don't use IE much. |
| 03:42.40 | Sargun | I've had a lot of IE7 crashes, its annoying |
| 03:43.05 | eightyeight | i would agree with you if you said firefox is instable. even bare-bones, it crashes on me frequently, although v3 not as much as < v2 |
| 03:43.07 | levi | I use IE for a couple of intranet apps at work, and that's about it. |
| 03:43.28 | Sargun | firefox is just...nasty |
| 03:43.58 | Sargun | seamonkey is fairly stable |
| 03:44.28 | eightyeight | i haven't had safari crash on me though. konqueror a few times |
| 03:44.55 | eightyeight | which weren't actually webkit-related |
| 03:45.23 | levi | I imagine most crashes I've experienced are directly related to Flash. |
| 03:45.38 | Sargun | I think Flash mut be outsourced to Estonia |
| 03:45.51 | Sargun | or Latvia |
| 03:46.07 | levi | Or to an army of Sargun clones. |
| 03:46.16 | Sargun | levi, Flash is surprisingly a bit smoother under IE |
| 03:46.30 | Sargun | I would run IE |
| 03:46.36 | eightyeight | flashblock makes the web a safer place |
| 03:46.44 | Sargun | if they released it for Linux. |
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| 14:19.22 | levi | Good morning. |
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| 14:40.41 | tvc123 | gah almost 9 and it still feels so early I want to shoot myself |
| 14:44.26 | Sargun_Screen | Wed Sep 3 07:44:26 PDT 2008 |
| 14:46.47 | Sargun_Screen | tvc123: wrong time zone |
| 14:46.56 | Sargun_Screen | :-P |
| 14:48.09 | tvc123 | wrong window as well ... but I will survive :) |
| 14:49.11 | Sargun_Screen | hehe |
| 14:50.05 | Sargun_Screen | thinks the people in his english class are slightly more sane than his math class |
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| 14:56.26 | Sargun_Screen | wow, my english professor is old |
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| 14:57.05 | Sargun_Screen | and dresses like he is from the 40s |
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| 16:08.07 | Sargun_Screen | frinky dink? |
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| 16:36.56 | Sargun_Screen | ugh |
| 16:37.07 | Sargun_Screen | i want to kill iBot sometimes |
| 16:38.04 | peno | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:38.23 | bugQ | ibot: onjoin bugQ |
| 16:38.36 | bugQ | ibot: onjoin -bugQ |
| 16:38.36 | ibot | ok, bugQ |
| 16:44.41 | elg | ~lart gmail |
| 16:44.41 | ibot | dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on gmail |
| 16:44.45 | harleypig | I'd forgotten how funny Key to her Ferrari was ... |
| 16:45.07 | harleypig | and how filled with innuendo :D |
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| 16:46.44 | levi | Wow, fozzmoo again agrees with something Glenn Beck said. I'm shocked! |
| 16:47.24 | tuple | oh, can't blame gmail. it's the university dns |
| 16:49.03 | bugQ | for me it's the wi-fi. |
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| 16:50.19 | MathHat | what was I saying? |
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| 16:53.23 | bugQ | ...this is unacceptable. |
| 16:54.29 | elg | ~wtf v[o;f |
| 16:54.36 | elg | ~wtf vpilf |
| 16:54.47 | elg | that makes two of us |
| 16:55.23 | Jayce^ | elg, his play on VP + MILF |
| 16:55.35 | elg | ~wtf milf |
| 16:57.24 | levi | <blank> I'd Like To [fornicate with] :P |
| 17:00.58 | harleypig | fondle? |
| 17:01.06 | harleypig | fetch |
| 17:01.35 | fozzmoo | have fondu |
| 17:02.03 | harleypig | floss |
| 17:02.22 | harleypig | fabricate |
| 17:02.26 | elg | feed |
| 17:02.38 | harleypig | factor |
| 17:02.48 | elg | furnish |
| 17:03.16 | harleypig | fancy |
| 17:03.38 | harleypig | fathom |
| 17:03.44 | harleypig | fawn |
| 17:03.52 | elg | fling |
| 17:04.06 | elg | fold |
| 17:04.07 | harleypig | what is vp? |
| 17:04.11 | harleypig | vice president? |
| 17:04.13 | harleypig | oh. |
| 17:04.14 | harleypig | der! |
| 17:04.32 | harleypig | she is pretty hot ... |
| 17:04.40 | elg | it does make the race more interesting, i'll give him that |
| 17:04.54 | elg | whether it was a particularly good choice for his target audience I'm not so sure |
| 17:04.58 | Jayce^ | flog |
| 17:05.28 | elg | flap |
| 17:06.11 | elg | mccain sure looks silly on stage. surely his people would be bright enough to figure out that they need to keep him behind a podium |
| 17:06.14 | zzzirk | fester |
| 17:06.49 | elg | figure |
| 17:06.51 | fozzmoo | Anyone seen that old Star Trek episode where they bring Captain Pike back for a court hearing? |
| 17:07.09 | elg | the pilot |
| 17:07.09 | elg | ya |
| 17:07.10 | fozzmoo | And he's like... in this box... with a couple lights on it... |
| 17:07.15 | zzzirk | isn't he just a head in a box basically? |
| 17:07.19 | fozzmoo | Yeah. |
| 17:07.20 | harleypig | yeah |
| 17:07.23 | fozzmoo | That's what they shoudl do with McCain. |
| 17:07.27 | harleypig | of course ... |
| 17:07.27 | fozzmoo | ;-) |
| 17:07.28 | harleypig | :D |
| 17:07.37 | harleypig | fuzz |
| 17:07.40 | harleypig | fuze |
| 17:07.43 | harleypig | futz |
| 17:07.53 | elg | forecast |
| 17:07.58 | zzzirk | fuel |
| 17:08.00 | harleypig | fuss |
| 17:08.04 | harleypig | fuse |
| 17:08.08 | harleypig | furrow |
| 17:08.12 | harleypig | furl |
| 17:08.20 | elg | fling |
| 17:08.21 | harleypig | furbish |
| 17:08.23 | elg | flop |
| 17:08.25 | elg | flap |
| 17:08.33 | elg | flyfish |
| 17:08.38 | harleypig | fund |
| 17:08.48 | harleypig | fumigate |
| 17:08.56 | elg | fashion |
| 17:09.06 | harleypig | fuliminate |
| 17:09.18 | harleypig | fulfill |
| 17:09.27 | harleypig | fuel |
| 17:09.33 | harleypig | fuddle |
| 17:09.37 | harleypig | fry |
| 17:09.39 | harleypig | frustrate |
| 17:09.41 | elg | fiddle |
| 17:09.42 | elg | faddle |
| 17:09.46 | elg | frost |
| 17:10.08 | elg | freak out |
| 17:10.10 | harleypig | front |
| 17:10.23 | harleypig | frolic with |
| 17:10.30 | harleypig | frizzle |
| 17:10.36 | harleypig | frisk |
| 17:10.39 | harleypig | I like that one. |
| 17:10.51 | harleypig | frighten |
| 17:11.03 | harleypig | fricassee |
| 17:11.08 | harleypig | fret |
| 17:11.17 | elg | 'fridgerate |
| 17:11.20 | fozzmoo | frak. |
| 17:11.24 | fozzmoo | Isn't that just the best? |
| 17:11.43 | harleypig | You wanna be a cartoon character with her? |
| 17:11.48 | elg | fog |
| 17:11.55 | elg | foosh |
| 17:13.56 | harleypig | :D "Particle Physics gives me a hadron!" |
| 17:15.02 | Sargun_Screen | hahah |
| 17:15.05 | fozzmoo | has Coke Zero shoot out of his nose |
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| 17:28.31 | levi | Heh, anyone running Chrome should try typing 'about:internets' in the URL bar. |
| 17:29.19 | mrpull | levi: yeah. I went seeking other about: easter eggs yesterday |
| 17:29.33 | fozzmoo | If only Chrome was available for Linux, I could play these games with you. |
| 17:29.34 | mrpull | the about:internets gag was good. |
| 17:30.10 | mrpull | I'm also trying to find out how the keyword searches are created and what the defaults are |
| 17:31.02 | mrpull | it looks like it imported mine from FF |
| 17:32.58 | mrpull | I've been tinkering with other things... I just figured out I could drag and drop an attachment into a gmail message |
| 17:33.37 | levi | It imports just about everything it can from Firefox. |
| 17:34.05 | mrpull | it imported the search keyword, but how do I create one now? |
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| 17:39.43 | levi | Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by a keyword search. |
| 17:39.47 | levi | What do you mean? |
| 17:40.21 | mrpull | in FF, you can right click any search box and make a special bookmark that creates a keyword search |
| 17:40.31 | mrpull | I'm not describing it well |
| 17:41.45 | mrpull | you right click a search field, choose "add keyword for this search", add bookmark details including a keywoard... then later in the address bar you type "keyword search terms" |
| 17:41.53 | mrpull | and it searches that search engine |
| 17:41.54 | fozzmoo | levi: Did you make it to any of UTOSC? |
| 17:42.21 | mrpull | I have one for Amazon, Wikipedia, Ninja Words, etc. |
| 17:43.23 | mrpull | doh, I found it. |
| 17:43.38 | tuple | ~hate this network |
| 17:43.39 | ibot | Hey tuple, ,,|, |
| 17:43.39 | levi | fozzmoo: Nope. I'm not a big conference attendee. |
| 17:43.53 | mrpull | under manage search engines |
| 17:44.05 | fozzmoo | levi: You conference hatemonger, you. |
| 17:44.07 | levi | fozzmoo: At least, not unless work sends me, and that hasn't happened in a long time. :) |
| 17:46.30 | levi | You must be pretty good to pick on the subtle subtext of hate and bile that I feel towards conferences. ;) |
| 17:51.21 | levi | fozzmoo: So, you weren't around to comment on my comment on the oddness of conservatives flying flags on Labor Day. |
| 17:51.53 | fozzmoo | No, I guess I wasn't. |
| 17:51.58 | fozzmoo | I was out taking my flag down. |
| 17:52.07 | fozzmoo | ;-) |
| 17:52.57 | fozzmoo | I'd be interested in knowing how the holiday came to be. |
| 17:53.06 | levi | Labor unions, basically. |
| 17:53.09 | fozzmoo | Sure. |
| 17:53.13 | fozzmoo | But I'd like to know the history. |
| 17:53.30 | levi | Google will be happy to lead you on the path to enlightenment there. |
| 17:54.38 | levi | I don't have the links that I found handy anymore. |
| 17:55.02 | levi | Nor enough of the information in my head to do it justice. |
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| 18:04.55 | fozzmoo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Day |
| 18:05.08 | fozzmoo | http://www.dol.gov/OPA/ABOUTDOL/LABORDAY.HTM |
| 18:05.30 | fozzmoo | "More than 100 years after the first Labor Day observance, there is still some doubt as to who first proposed the holiday for workers. " |
| 18:15.27 | harleypig | Can't we all just get along? |
| 18:24.05 | ^Migs^ | http://gizmodo.com/5044871/google-chrome-eula-claims-ownership-of-everything-you-create-on-chrome-from-blog-posts-to-emails |
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| 18:34.57 | mrpull | wait till the conservatives find out the origins of Halloween! |
| 18:49.21 | tuple | ^Migs^: i hope you didn't jump on the paranoia bandwagon there, because that would be pretty embarrasing |
| 18:49.47 | ^Migs^ | about Chrome or Halloween? |
| 18:50.12 | tuple | your link |
| 18:50.21 | tuple | what halloween? I don't see anything about halloween |
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| 18:50.44 | ^Migs^ | no, I found it especially funny, because when Chrome first came out I had a friend saying "Don't download that, it'll index your hard drive and forward your web usage to Google!" |
| 18:53.29 | tuple | i find all this google paranoia funny and depressing |
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| 19:56.08 | Tene | Mmm... fried up some noodles with chopped peppers, carrots, red and green onions, potatoes. |
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| 20:15.27 | ibot | slaps pashdown upside the head with a wet fish |
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| 20:28.42 | ^Migs^ | http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1487/picture1vd4.png |
| 20:28.43 | ^Migs^ | hahahaha |
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| 20:29.19 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 20:29.21 | elg | it says resolved question. how was it resolved? |
| 20:45.59 | Tene | ^Migs^: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071219234707AAy44fL |
| 20:47.02 | ^Migs^ | HAHAHAHA |
| 20:47.07 | Tene | "Source(s): I know it and it's true." |
| 20:48.57 | elg | hehe |
| 20:49.13 | elg | my kids are both pretty white, especially #2 |
| 20:49.21 | elg | although my wife is half hispanic |
| 20:49.34 | elg | i joke that our viking genes are stronger |
| 20:49.42 | Sargun | hehe |
| 20:50.24 | Sargun | FISHY |
| 20:50.27 | elg | i thought darker eyes, hair, skin tended to be more dominant |
| 20:50.31 | ^Migs^ | my wife is half hispanic too...our kids couldn't be whiter |
| 20:50.36 | elg | though I haven't checked into it |
| 20:50.38 | ^Migs^ | I have, like, supergenes |
| 20:57.27 | harleypig | as opposed to superslacks? |
| 20:57.29 | elg | superskirts |
| 20:58.37 | Sargun | superskirts!? |
| 21:00.27 | elg | superkilts? |
| 21:02.52 | Jayce^ | utilikilts |
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| 21:05.17 | harleypig | *IS* going to get a utilikilt someday ... |
| 21:05.38 | harleypig | The bright red corduroy one ... |
| 21:06.54 | Heartsbane | harleypig: what is that carpenter pants, done in a kilt with some sort of tartan on it? |
| 21:07.01 | harleypig | :D utilikilts site has mock-u-mercials ... "Good girls ask, bad girls find out for themselves!" |
| 21:07.17 | harleypig | No tartan ... |
| 21:07.53 | harleypig | I really want the leather one too ... |
| 21:08.04 | harleypig | looks like the corduroy's weren't that popular. |
| 21:09.14 | Heartsbane | lol |
| 21:09.40 | harleypig | there it is, http://www.utilikilts.com/index.php?page_id=28 |
| 21:09.47 | harleypig | But it's in the jean section ... |
| 21:10.05 | elg | i say we start a collection for harleypig's utilikilt |
| 21:10.17 | harleypig | I actually like the blue corduroy ... |
| 21:10.23 | harleypig | heh |
| 21:10.47 | elg | there was a guy in my provo ward that wore a kilt (olive khaki) every day but sunday |
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| 21:10.56 | elg | tall skinny redhead |
| 21:11.04 | elg | total geek |
| 21:11.07 | elg | pretty funny |
| 21:11.23 | harleypig | http://www.utilikilts.com/index.php?page_id=65 sizing instructions |
| 21:11.36 | harleypig | They have a 'beer gut cut' ... |
| 21:11.49 | mrpull | why oh why? does the BYU honor code permit men to wear kilts to school? |
| 21:12.04 | harleypig | "Our bigger brothers might want to look in to getting what we call a âContour Cutâ (formerly called a âBeergut Cutâ). See how the back of the kilt on the left is higher than the front? This can give people behind you an unpleasant surprise when you bend over! So we cut the kilt differently so the back is long enough (like the picture on the right)." |
| 21:12.27 | harleypig | I would argue that it's not that unpleasant of a surprise :> |
| 21:13.27 | harleypig | Though, Jayce^ did get an eyefull from someone else the other night |
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| 21:17.33 | Jayce^ | a popular paintballer from ID always plays in a kilt.. |
| 21:18.10 | hypnogrpyh | that has to be a new realm of pain |
| 21:18.22 | harleypig | for everyone concerned. |
| 21:18.36 | harleypig | You guys should convince Aaron to do that ... :> |
| 21:20.24 | findlay | ~onjoin findlay hi |
| 21:20.24 | ibot | ok, findlay |
| 21:22.09 | Jayce^ | was really fun to see this guy (bright blue mohawk, kilt) playing against another fun squad, the Psycho Clown Posse... who of course have a clown motif to all their gear |
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| 21:22.44 | mrpull | ewww... I hate clowns. shooting them would bring me much joy. |
| 21:23.10 | Jayce^ | http://www.psychoclownposse.com/action2/pages/Action_Toby_N_Mike_jpg.htm |
| 21:29.03 | harleypig | those are some scary looking clowns. |
| 21:29.37 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 21:29.38 | harleypig | man ... I could really use some methadone ... |
| 21:29.53 | harleypig | this weather, going back and forth like this, is killing my back. |
| 21:30.45 | Jayce^ | offers an "alternative" solution |
| 21:30.45 | harleypig | ummm ... |
| 21:30.56 | harleypig | The rack might help too, but it'd probably just give me a different set of problems. |
| 21:31.10 | harleypig | It'd certainly straighten my back out though ... |
| 21:31.17 | harleypig | for a little while. |
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| 21:56.09 | mrpull | why do sales people call three times without leaving a message? |
| 21:56.23 | mrpull | if you get my VM, I'm not answering right now. |
| 21:56.38 | mrpull | don't war dial me like we need to evacuate the county |
| 22:02.27 | high_roller | wardial him back |
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| 22:02.54 | bsdice | Yip yo |
| 22:03.35 | mrpull | I need to get that beeep beeeeeep BEEEEP - "the number you have reached" recording |
| 22:03.40 | mrpull | and just forward them to that recording |
| 22:03.49 | high_roller | asterisk is your friend |
| 22:03.50 | bsdice | forward who |
| 22:04.05 | mrpull | bsdice: the salesperson that won't stop calling |
| 22:04.13 | mrpull | bsdice: it's been a while. where you been? |
| 22:04.13 | bsdice | Pull a Tom Mabe |
| 22:04.23 | bsdice | mrpull frickn busy |
| 22:04.38 | bsdice | Built our first own product in our company |
| 22:04.43 | bsdice | released it even |
| 22:05.50 | mrpull | nice. I forget... networking gear? |
| 22:06.00 | bsdice | yes a small firewall |
| 22:06.16 | bsdice | based on alix 2c3 pcengines |
| 22:06.26 | bsdice | cryptographically signed binary updates etc. |
| 22:06.36 | bsdice | based on FreeBSD |
| 22:06.46 | bsdice | Standing on the shoulders of giants |
| 22:07.11 | mrpull | good place to be. wrap good support around it and make some cash! |
| 22:09.13 | bsdice | what did I miss |
| 22:09.34 | bsdice | are you folks giggling about Palin's pregnant daughter |
| 22:09.53 | bsdice | and her strong "no premarital sex" dogma |
| 22:10.25 | levi | bsdice: Don't giggle about her in front of fozzmoo! |
| 22:10.36 | bsdice | who |
| 22:10.56 | bsdice | hey she looks cute |
| 22:11.31 | bsdice | maybe she'll surprise us all should McCain win and be incapacitated for health reasons |
| 22:11.44 | levi | Palin has a nice-looking family. |
| 22:12.07 | bsdice | do you read alternet |
| 22:12.13 | levi | Not really. |
| 22:12.13 | Sargun | levi, that matters? |
| 22:12.16 | bsdice | its so funny |
| 22:12.21 | levi | Sargun: No, it doesn't. |
| 22:13.12 | bsdice | You guys in Utah are at an advantage |
| 22:13.13 | Sargun | bsdice, Nice, you got some of that layer 7 inspection stuff going on? |
| 22:13.43 | bsdice | If the world ends, I will move to Utah. News that world has ended will reach Utahns only 50 years later... |
| 22:14.01 | Sargun | bsdice, What version of FreeBSD are you using? |
| 22:14.10 | levi | We're not quite *that* backwards. |
| 22:14.13 | bsdice | Sargun I've got only 4 GB of flash partitioned into 2 slices to have alternative boot systems in case you flashed crap into the other slice |
| 22:14.31 | bsdice | Sargun I got havp on there though |
| 22:14.53 | bsdice | transparent proxy with clamav interface |
| 22:15.47 | bsdice | alas the 500 MHz CPU is not the fastest to scan http objects |
| 22:17.15 | bsdice | I got some other ideas for malware though, cause a majority of the drive by malware on the web is from only a couple handful of networks |
| 22:24.40 | elg | hm palin's favorite food is møøse. I may have to go into hiding |
| 22:24.51 | Sargun | bsdice, Ouch. |
| 22:24.53 | Jayce^ | mse? |
| 22:24.59 | elg | ~utf8 Jayce^ |
| 22:25.05 | Sargun | What is the interface written in? |
| 22:25.40 | levi | elg: She is, apparently, quite the hunter. |
| 22:25.58 | bsdice | Sargun ? |
| 22:26.36 | Sargun | bsdice, I assume the device has a web interface? |
| 22:26.51 | bsdice | only smallish |
| 22:26.53 | bsdice | ruby |
| 22:26.57 | bsdice | lighttpd |
| 22:27.06 | harleypig | argh ... my gnome desktop b0rked! |
| 22:27.16 | levi | You put ruby on an embedded device? |
| 22:27.33 | elg | harleypig: no, it's børked |
| 22:27.46 | bsdice | yes |
| 22:27.51 | bsdice | embedded no |
| 22:28.08 | bsdice | 4 GB compact flash, 256 MB RAM and 500 MHz |
| 22:28.18 | bsdice | not embedded any more... |
| 22:29.24 | harleypig | elg: don't have the right fonts installed ... all I see is b?rked |
| 22:29.36 | levi | Still embedded, just not very resource constrained. |
| 22:29.45 | bsdice | agreed ;) |
| 22:29.51 | bsdice | it even has wireshark |
| 22:30.05 | bsdice | basically a full BSD crammed onto the flash and some special unionfs |
| 22:30.06 | elg | your fonts or charset is børked then ;-) |
| 22:30.24 | harleypig | heh |
| 22:30.40 | bsdice | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.56 | bsdice | so if you update and reboot you get same config on new system |
| 22:31.16 | harleypig | what's the name of the keychain program gnome uses on startup? |
| 22:31.25 | levi | I did a system like that, except it had a provision for upgrading your config in case it changed. |
| 22:31.41 | harleypig | I'm in kde now and all my work servers are demanding passwords |
| 22:33.43 | levi | Why'd you switch to kde? |
| 22:34.04 | harleypig | my gnome desktop is broken ... it boots to the root picture and hangs. |
| 22:34.17 | harleypig | I don't k now gnome well enough to troubleshoot. |
| 22:34.23 | bsdice | harleypig you should upgrade |
| 22:34.24 | levi | How'd you break gnome? |
| 22:34.29 | harleypig | I upgraded. |
| 22:34.30 | harleypig | :> |
| 22:34.37 | bsdice | not enough |
| 22:34.58 | harleypig | aptitude -f safe-upgrade && aptitude -f full-upgrade && aptitude -f dist-upgrade |
| 22:35.04 | harleypig | is there anything else? |
| 22:35.24 | bsdice | that's not XP |
| 22:36.48 | harleypig | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.09 | bsdice | ;) |
| 22:37.22 | harleypig | *8P |
| 22:38.04 | harleypig | *XP -- dead smiley with a bullet hole in the head. |
| 22:38.05 | levi | harleypig: You might try moving your .gnome and seeing if that helps. |
| 22:38.45 | harleypig | yeah, I was thinking that ... but I'm concerned about the .gnome2 and .gnome2_private directories also ... not sure what they do either. |
| 22:38.59 | levi | Just mv them all to different things. ;) |
| 22:39.25 | harleypig | yeah yeah |
| 22:39.45 | harleypig | was just trying to avoid resetting things up ... I just got things the way I wanted them a coule of weeks ago! |
| 22:39.49 | harleypig | *sigh* |
| 22:39.50 | harleypig | here goes |
| 22:42.24 | harleypig | well, that brought up gnome again, but I've lost all of my compiz settings, my wallet settings--I don't remember some passwords ... *sigh* |
| 22:42.57 | levi | Well, you can presumably move those things back in from your old .gnome directories. |
| 22:43.01 | harleypig | But, oddly enough, my panel is ok. |
| 22:43.18 | harleypig | I hope so. Unless that's what broke in the first place. |
| 22:44.37 | Jayce^ | or learn to use KDE... it'll be better for you :-p |
| 22:44.49 | harleypig | I use kde at home ... I play with it too much. |
| 22:45.04 | harleypig | that's why I use gnome at work ... I hate it so i don't spend too much time messing with it. |
| 22:46.19 | levi | I like gnome. It presents a simple, clean interface. |
| 22:46.53 | levi | And I think it's more aesthetically pleasing in general. |
| 22:47.06 | harleypig | heathen |
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| 23:00.44 | levi | There are plenty of reasons for you to consider me a heathen, not the least of which is my love of emacs. :) |
| 23:01.03 | harleypig | *gasp* Doubly evil! |
| 23:03.11 | levi | Plus, I'm an evil liberal or something. |
| 23:04.10 | harleypig | :] |
| 23:04.32 | high_roller | liberal we can forgive, but the use of emacs is unforgivable |
| 23:05.01 | bsdice | LIBERAL |
| 23:11.18 | bsdice | good nite... |
| 23:12.53 | levi | Heh. I love emacs. So awesome. |
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| 23:43.12 | levi | ive |
| 23:43.16 | levi | Whoops. |
| 23:43.49 | Sargun | Huh? |
| 23:55.31 | fungus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRn221y-e8g |
