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| 01:22.45 | elg | so i'm either 21, 26, or 30 %BF |
| 01:22.56 | elg | depending on the apparatus |
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| 06:59.10 | Perspective2000 | looking for Jenni from Riverdale, anyone? |
| 06:59.52 | herlo | Perspective2000: this is *not* the channel you are looking for |
| 06:59.55 | herlo | waves hand |
| 07:06.02 | Sargun | Hahaha |
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| 15:01.45 | bbeattie | Anyone know of a fail safe radio+antenna project that can maintain 25Mb/s at 1.25 mile range? |
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| 15:04.28 | Sargun_screen | fail safe? what exactly? |
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| 15:05.15 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | UTOSC disccode POUNDUTAH 2008.utosc.com | UTOSC Starts Aug 28. See you there! |
| 15:08.54 | RyanE | bbeattie: I think for that range and that throughput, you're looking at commercial backhaul solution. |
| 15:09.05 | RyanE | like the Motorola Canopy stuff... http://www.gnswireless.com/PTP300_GNS5504.htm |
| 15:09.06 | Jayce^ | bbeattie, you have a recommended HD antennae for in-attic usage? |
| 15:09.18 | tensai | bbeattie: moto canopy 60M backhaul could do it |
| 15:09.20 | Jayce^ | is using the canopy equipment via digis |
| 15:09.20 | RyanE | when they say 'call for pricing', it's never good news... :) |
| 15:13.01 | levi | Good morning. |
| 15:16.34 | tensai | I don't recall how much they run, but yeah they're spendy |
| 15:17.31 | RyanE | well, on the page I posted, they had some other units at the bottom that were in the $1k-$2k range. |
| 15:19.14 | bbeattie | jayce^: yeah, i've got a few antennas and best S/N amp but I can't get anything at my house |
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| 15:19.59 | bbeattie | jayce^: what's antenna web say for your house? |
| 15:20.07 | bbeattie | yellow, orange, purple? |
| 15:21.56 | Sargun_screen | You guys get HD video OTA? |
| 15:22.04 | elg | i do |
| 15:22.14 | tensai | me too |
| 15:22.26 | tensai | elg: we got to about 90% disk space once but we managed to keep up and watch everything |
| 15:22.58 | elg | well we didn't even come close to keeping up :) |
| 15:23.00 | Sargun_screen | Weird. |
| 15:23.02 | Sargun_screen | ;-P |
| 15:23.19 | elg | we'll be enjoying the olympics for a few weeks yet |
| 15:28.29 | hjp_gone | Am I the only one who wonders sometimes if the people who make kingston memory are the same kingstons in slc. |
| 15:28.50 | Jayce^ | bbeattie, I should be good, I am right on the horizon, if I have it on top I should be able to get a good signal |
| 15:29.06 | hjp_gone | just float a balloon |
| 15:29.18 | hjp_gone | with a wire wrapped around the anchor cable. |
| 15:29.28 | hjp_gone | make sure to fill the balloon with hydrogen. |
| 15:29.55 | hjp_gone | woops ... just noticed my nick |
| 15:35.38 | bbeattie | I would do that if it would work. :) Probably hard to keep an antenna pointed one direction with a tethered balloon |
| 15:37.43 | harleypig | what about a multi-directional antenna? |
| 15:38.15 | RyanE | gets kind of expensive keeping a baloon afloat for years... FAA issues as well... :) |
| 15:38.40 | harleypig | Isn't there a ceiling below which the faa doesn't get involved? |
| 15:39.06 | harleypig | and I was just joking ... it doesn't seem cost effective enough just for the materials. |
| 15:39.11 | Jayce^ | harleypig, are you asking if there is a self-imposed limit a government association will imply on itself |
| 15:39.23 | harleypig | Not self-imposed. |
| 15:39.39 | WoodsDogg | has anyone gotten the new Fiber Optic internet from Qwest? I saw this this morning, and it's in my city, but when i called them, it isn't available to me. |
| 15:39.44 | WoodsDogg | https://forums.qwest.com/qwbb/board/message?board.id=UT&thread.id=14 |
| 15:39.52 | RyanE | harleypig: yeah, I think we knew you were joking... :) |
| 15:39.54 | harleypig | The current resurgence of mccarthyism should be evidence enough of the lack of self-control on the governments part. |
| 15:40.05 | harleypig | RyanE: :> |
| 15:40.28 | RyanE | Unless you turn on <serious_mode>, we assume <joking_Mode>... |
| 15:40.34 | harleypig | :D |
| 15:40.54 | harleypig | I don't think that tag will even work for me anymore ... it's probably rusted in place. |
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| 15:42.14 | tensai | harleypig: that sounds like terrorist talk to me |
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| 15:42.33 | harleypig | feh ... I'm pretty sure I'm on at least 5 different lists. |
| 15:42.35 | tensai | hauls harleypig off to gitmo |
| 15:42.47 | harleypig | Finishing school for terrorists. |
| 15:43.04 | harleypig | If they weren't terrorists when they went in, they're certainly going to be if they ever get out. |
| 15:43.22 | bbeattie | I need a 350' high balloon to get signal, that's lower than the 500' fixed wing limitation for airplanes but helicopters don't have a requirement and there's plenty of military helo's that fly overhead |
| 15:43.49 | harleypig | good practice for the helo's (to avoid, not shoot at) |
| 15:44.12 | RyanE | and bbeattie isn't too far from the former practice range... :) |
| 15:44.34 | harleypig | just put some red led's randomly around ... add some fun to the mix ... see how many people call the cops because of random red dots. |
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| 15:44.55 | RyanE | yeah, power would also be an issue. You'd have to have a powered tether going up to the balloon. |
| 15:45.14 | RyanE | and that extra weight would make for a larger balloon. |
| 15:46.49 | harleypig | hmmm ... what about a kite then? |
| 15:46.52 | harleypig | ducks |
| 15:47.45 | tensai | see if yao ming will hold up an antenna for you |
| 15:56.03 | unum | eightyeight: pong |
| 15:56.13 | harleypig | who is yao ming? |
| 15:57.33 | tensai | 7'6" chinese nba player |
| 16:05.35 | Sargun_screen | he's like a giant stick |
| 16:05.38 | Sargun_screen | schtick |
| 16:06.01 | harleypig | oh, is the one they did ads with a year or so ago. |
| 16:06.49 | Sargun_screen | no idea what you're talking about, ads? |
| 16:06.57 | Sargun_screen | i know nike bought him |
| 16:08.28 | harleypig | I just remember this tall chinese dude in a basketball uniform doing a play on the word 'Yo' when trying to write a check. |
| 16:13.11 | Sargun_screen | movie rec for everyone; erlang: the movie |
| 16:23.33 | nick125 | Sargun_screen: oh dear. |
| 16:24.19 | sjansen | WoodsDogg! |
| 16:26.44 | WoodsDogg | hey sjansen, how's life? |
| 16:27.10 | sjansen | Pretty good. Sorry, about to start lecturing again. |
| 16:27.21 | WoodsDogg | np, gl with it! |
| 16:32.40 | levi | erlang: the movie is awesomeness. |
| 16:33.53 | levi | WoodsDogg: I have a coworker who has switched to it. Not sure if it's been installed yet. |
| 16:35.41 | WoodsDogg | i'd be curious to hear. i can't get anything but 1.5 qwest dsl right now, so that sounds pretty good to me |
| 16:36.08 | levi | I have the 7meg qwest DSL, though my throughput is somewhat less than that. |
| 16:36.24 | nick125 | http://osnews.com/story/20178/The_End_of_the_Linspire_Distribution < So sad....NOT |
| 16:36.28 | WoodsDogg | coming from 1.5, i'd be pretty happy with that |
| 16:36.29 | levi | Downloading Debian/Ubuntu stuff from the Xmission mirror (Xmission is my ISP) is pretty fast. :) |
| 16:37.02 | nick125 | The highest I've got on my 7mbit ADSL line is 6mbit..typically around 5.6mbit. |
| 16:37.12 | levi | Pretty fast compared to 1.5MB dsl, anyway. |
| 16:37.54 | nick125 | I really wish that Qwest would've opened up their FTTN infrastructure. |
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| 16:46.57 | WoodsDogg | with that fttn, can you only use qwest as the isp? |
| 16:47.05 | WoodsDogg | with dsl, you can choose who your isp is |
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| 17:01.52 | tensai | modprobe: module raid1 not found |
| 17:01.55 | tensai | that's not good |
| 17:02.09 | Sargun | builtin? |
| 17:02.21 | tensai | if it were this box would still boot |
| 17:03.22 | tensai | it being 250 miles away makes troubleshooting pretty difficult |
| 17:08.18 | ^Migs^ | http://webecoist.com/2008/08/19/the-incredible-tree-climbing-goats-of-morocco/ |
| 17:12.03 | Sargun | Goats! |
| 17:14.10 | harleypig | Goatse! |
| 17:18.23 | Sargun_screen | nick125: I am back down to 1.5mbit |
| 17:18.30 | Sargun_screen | I wish the Linux Kernel wouldn't route cache |
| 17:18.34 | Sargun_screen | piece of junk. |
| 17:19.17 | harleypig | but it's a better poj than windows! |
| 17:19.20 | harleypig | strikes a match |
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| 17:24.58 | herlo | harleypig: I have something *very |
| 17:25.09 | herlo | *very* special for you at UTOSC 2008 :) |
| 17:25.15 | harleypig | uh oh |
| 17:25.24 | harleypig | Is she cute? |
| 17:25.32 | herlo | http://www.cafepress.com/harleypig |
| 17:25.42 | herlo | lol, sure, she's cute |
| 17:26.24 | harleypig | You gonna get people to pay to not see me wear that? |
| 17:26.38 | herlo | harleypig: probably :) |
| 17:26.50 | harleypig | I want a cut, or do I parade around your house in that? :> |
| 17:27.03 | herlo | harleypig: NO! Not my house! |
| 17:27.08 | herlo | rethinks his gift |
| 17:27.13 | harleypig | Have you actually sold any of those? |
| 17:27.48 | Sargun_screen | Accountants are overly protected. |
| 17:28.01 | harleypig | don't you mean protective |
| 17:28.01 | harleypig | ? |
| 17:28.12 | Sargun_screen | No |
| 17:28.15 | Sargun_screen | protected by the law. |
| 17:28.28 | harleypig | Oh. |
| 17:31.58 | herlo | harleypig: lol |
| 17:32.01 | herlo | sold 2 |
| 17:32.42 | harleypig | Not a very popular product ... |
| 17:32.50 | herlo | lol |
| 17:32.51 | harleypig | I don't understand! |
| 17:32.57 | harleypig | Do you know who bought them? |
| 17:32.59 | herlo | harleypig: I know who the purchaser was too |
| 17:33.16 | harleypig | erm ... I'm not sure I wanna know ... |
| 17:33.36 | harleypig | *sigh* who was it? |
| 17:36.03 | herlo | lol, you'll know soon enough :) |
| 17:36.28 | Jayce^ | herlo will be wearing it on his head ala weird science |
| 17:37.24 | herlo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:40.13 | peno | /clear//clear |
| 17:40.22 | peno | er. |
| 17:40.58 | herlo | oops |
| 17:41.03 | herlo | sorry Jayce^ |
| 17:41.11 | Jayce^ | hey, he's seen them around work :) |
| 17:41.59 | herlo | oh, okay good |
| 17:56.15 | sjansen | You might be a windbag when... You look at the clock and think "3 hours? That's not enough time to say everything!" |
| 17:59.40 | harleypig | You guys are almost as twisted as me! |
| 18:04.23 | sjansen | Learned from the best. |
| 18:06.43 | levi | Man, these miniature grapes are annoying. |
| 18:07.10 | levi | They look cool, and they taste fine, but they're almost as much work to eat as a pomegranate. |
| 18:25.12 | ^Migs^ | added new blog stats in our school district: http://blog.weber.k12.ut.us |
| 18:32.48 | Jayce^ | bbeattie, any opinions on http://www.dennysantennaservice.com/1073325.html |
| 18:33.22 | tensai | I didn't know Denny's sold antennas now. do they come with a side of pancakes? |
| 18:35.04 | tensai | "Perfect for use in mobile home and HOA communities where tv antenna size restrictions apply." |
| 18:35.16 | tensai | I wonder if they know that rules of that sort are forbidden by the FCC |
| 18:38.52 | Sargun | Damn solid state hardware. |
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| 19:01.07 | elg | tensai: so how did your chiles rellenos turn out? |
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| 19:12.56 | findlay | hello |
| 19:14.13 | elg | -lart tensai |
| 19:15.11 | findlay | ~slashdot |
| 19:22.35 | sjansen | http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/webdev.png |
| 19:29.49 | bbeattie | ryane: a good rg-6 will with only 20 miles from the ATSC broadcast antennas will run 300' fine without needed amplifications. Now grounding during a lightning storm may be interesting. ;) Know of anyone who sells a motor system that works with c4 to bring the balloon down if your weatherbug reports lightning? ;) |
| 19:30.18 | RyanE | heh. |
| 19:31.20 | RyanE | Duh. I was for some reason thinking that you were going to put the backhaul equipment up there, not an ATSC antenna. Some days... |
| 19:31.25 | RyanE | bbeattie: you going to CEDIA? |
| 19:31.45 | bbeattie | ryane: Not yet atleast, when is it? |
| 19:31.53 | RyanE | next week. |
| 19:32.02 | bbeattie | ryane: I'm still trying to force my developer to do cable... |
| 19:33.26 | RyanE | to do cable? |
| 19:33.40 | RyanE | your developer? You building again? Didn't you just do that? |
| 19:34.12 | bbeattie | cable tv, yeah, when I bought the lot it was in the lot contract that it was stubbed to curb (hand written) and when I moved in I found out there was no cable... |
| 19:34.42 | RyanE | ah. gotcha. |
| 19:34.45 | bbeattie | nooooo.. not building again right now. :) Just had my builder out today to finish up all the loose ends.. I may be moving if I can't get cable though. :( I need it for work |
| 19:36.36 | Jayce^ | bbeattie, I warned you about that :) |
| 19:37.42 | bbeattie | It appears next feb 19th I can get 3 stations. :) |
| 19:38.19 | bbeattie | antennaweb.org is showing that a couple towers in utah county will be moving to digital, but fox was the biggest one.. |
| 19:38.42 | bbeattie | no pbs, nbc, abc, cbs |
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| 19:39.05 | elg | well i just wrote my first d program |
| 19:39.18 | bbeattie | jayce^: what's your address? |
| 19:39.22 | bbeattie | (for antenna web) |
| 19:39.34 | elg | suuure |
| 19:39.40 | bbeattie | I'm so sure a cheap antenna is all you need, you can hit everything off farnswork peak I'm sure |
| 19:39.52 | elg | my parents get terrible reception (analog) |
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| 19:40.03 | elg | the only channel we could pick up was univision |
| 19:40.17 | elg | but I think an antenna on the roof or in the attic would fix that. |
| 19:40.43 | elg | they're just behind the crest of the hill on redwood road. you can see camp williams from the upstairs bedrooms |
| 19:41.09 | bbeattie | elg: yeah, you have to be about 2 miles from the crest to get anything in utah county. :( |
| 19:41.20 | bbeattie | south of lehi main street/sr-73 |
| 19:41.28 | elg | why is that? |
| 19:41.39 | elg | you have line of sight to just about the whole valley |
| 19:41.47 | elg | south of the point anyway |
| 19:42.11 | elg | or do you mean to get anything if you're in utah county? are there any utah county broadcasting stations? kbyu I would expect |
| 19:46.35 | bbeattie | TV frequencies bend a bit, but not enough to get a good signal for DTV. I can get about 40% signal on a couple channels but you need 70% to see TV without major interuption. |
| 19:46.56 | bbeattie | in utah county yeah |
| 19:47.06 | bbeattie | there are no DTV stations in utah county |
| 19:47.13 | elg | ok, that matches my hypothesis |
| 19:47.17 | elg | what about analog? |
| 19:47.24 | bbeattie | everyone pulls from farnsworth peak so those of us in saratoga north lehi and alpine can't get DTV |
| 19:48.04 | elg | that is a fascinating fact. it's *almost* too hard to believe there would be no broadcast in utah county. but knowing utah, it becomes more believable :) |
| 19:48.41 | elg | ah, farnsworth is at the south end of the slc valley? |
| 19:50.34 | elg | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=farnsworth+peak,+utah&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=62.619483,113.203125&ie=UTF8&ll=40.480381,-111.96167&spn=0.47841,0.884399&t=p&z=10 |
| 19:51.13 | RyanE | and highland... :) |
| 19:51.23 | bbeattie | people in utah county can get signal from farnsworth |
| 19:51.32 | bbeattie | except the north part |
| 19:55.47 | elg | so alpine/highland are screwed too |
| 19:56.40 | bbeattie | pretty much, unless utah county government puts up some repeaters |
| 19:58.08 | elg | well, and they have been all these years. seems unlikely they'd start repeating now |
| 19:58.31 | elg | in my experience DTV reception is easier to get than watchable analog, though I guess it depends on your definition of watchable |
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| 19:58.56 | Sargun | Hi. |
| 19:59.13 | elg | if you count vague moving shapes in a blizzard of snow and crackly sound, for example... |
| 19:59.15 | Sargun | You guys are weird |
| 19:59.21 | Sargun | With your Over the air |
| 20:00.31 | elg | why? I bet you have lots of OTA options there in the city |
| 20:01.00 | elg | true you don't get the food network, but for the price tag it's awesome |
| 20:02.09 | tensai | I rather prefer not having all those other channels. makes for less tv to watch. |
| 20:03.36 | elg | but most of the tv worth watching at all is on "those other channels" |
| 20:04.00 | elg | PBS and the occasional good show that makes it through the filters being the exception |
| 20:04.58 | Sargun | elg, I am in a suburb |
| 20:05.38 | elg | over the hill? |
| 20:05.44 | bbeattie | I should also mention parts of spanish fork are blocked too |
| 20:06.00 | bbeattie | pbs was half of what I watched |
| 20:06.20 | tensai | pbs is 80% of what we watch |
| 20:07.08 | Supaplex | I watch discover.torrent ;) |
| 20:07.36 | bbeattie | my torrents suck out here, no idea why. I can pull 10mb from xmission and 1.5kb/s from torrents |
| 20:07.48 | Sargun | bbeattie, Does Xmission throttle? |
| 20:07.54 | bbeattie | took me a week to get the opening olympics |
| 20:08.04 | bbeattie | sargun: not sure, I'm on rapidwave wireless |
| 20:08.10 | bbeattie | 10mb/s down 4mb up |
| 20:08.21 | Sargun | On wireless you have to throttle. |
| 20:08.22 | tvc123 | hrm so anyone here in charge of the tucanos dinner for UTOSC? |
| 20:08.52 | jsmith | tvc123: Probably herlo |
| 20:09.24 | tvc123 | just noticed it is scheduled at the same time as the benefit dinner for the SLC film center |
| 20:09.30 | elg | mmmm, tucanos |
| 20:09.37 | elg | tensai: so, rellenos? |
| 20:09.38 | tvc123 | just got an advertizement about it |
| 20:09.45 | jsmith | tensai: rellenos? |
| 20:09.47 | tensai | elg: not yet |
| 20:09.49 | tvc123 | just thought someone should know |
| 20:09.53 | jsmith | sighs |
| 20:09.53 | tensai | jsmith: not yet you either |
| 20:10.02 | elg | tonight is relleno night at my house |
| 20:10.08 | jsmith | shakes his fist (in jest) at tensai |
| 20:10.17 | jsmith | shakes his fist (in not so much jest) at elg |
| 20:10.27 | elg | invites jsmith over for diner |
| 20:10.34 | tensai | I bought some anaheims at the farmers market |
| 20:10.51 | tensai | I'll probably do rellenos with them |
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| 20:11.05 | jsmith | elg: Oooh... I'll be there about 11:00pm, assuming I can get my boss to fly me |
| 20:11.21 | jsmith | elg: Make sure they're warm when I get there... they're no good cold |
| 20:11.43 | elg | i'll keep the oil handy for you |
| 20:11.54 | elg | if you show up, i'll roast you a couple chiles and rellenar them |
| 20:12.01 | tensai | jsmith: we'll have the last laugh when we're at tucanos and he's not |
| 20:12.22 | jsmith | tensai: No kidding... MUST HAVE MEAT HUT |
| 20:12.32 | elg | :-P |
| 20:19.38 | bbeattie | herlo: any luck on barry's e-mail? |
| 20:37.12 | Jayce^ | bbeattie, rapidwave chokes torrents |
| 20:46.06 | bbeattie | jayce^: how do you know that? |
| 20:46.30 | Jayce^ | bbeattie, the owner is on the plug list, talked to them before when I was looking around... |
| 20:46.34 | Jayce^ | that was a deal killer fo rme |
| 20:48.13 | RyanE | I can't imagine *any* wireless provider won't choke torrents. |
| 20:48.21 | RyanE | shared medium and all. |
| 20:52.44 | tensai | we throttle them during the day and turn it off at night |
| 20:53.11 | tensai | s/it/the throttling/ |
| 20:53.42 | tensai | not quite sure what it is, but p2p really hurts a wireless AP |
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| 21:20.36 | herlo | tvc123: what is the SLC Film center ? |
| 21:20.42 | herlo | bbeattie: barry's email? |
| 21:22.06 | tvc123 | herlo: I have no idea I am just on tucanos mailing list and noticed the date conflicted |
| 21:22.21 | tvc123 | herlo: I can forward it to you if you would like |
| 21:22.49 | herlo | tvc123: tucanos has a mailing list? |
| 21:22.56 | tvc123 | yeah mmmm tucanos |
| 21:23.02 | herlo | wow, cool |
| 21:25.10 | fozzmoo | herlo: Ahh. you're hooked up with tvc123 |
| 21:25.11 | fozzmoo | Cool. |
| 21:25.17 | fozzmoo | I've been in meetings. |
| 21:25.22 | fozzmoo | Meetings. meetings. meetings. |
| 21:26.48 | herlo | fozzmoo: I've been sleeping |
| 21:26.51 | herlo | sorta |
| 21:26.59 | fozzmoo | I did that... |
| 21:27.00 | fozzmoo | Last night. |
| 21:27.03 | fozzmoo | ;-) |
| 21:27.13 | ^Migs^ | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26271240/ |
| 21:27.34 | herlo | fozzmoo: I should beat you up one side and down the other for that remark ! :-D |
| 21:27.51 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 21:28.35 | tvc123 | as long as someone got the message ... just thought it would be good to know before we got there |
| 21:43.01 | harleypig | dang ... I've been staring at my code too long. Or I need to turn off syntax coloring ... |
| 21:43.01 | harleypig | I just saw Zoidberg in my code.... |
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| 21:43.10 | harleypig | or maybe I'm just have a minor flashback ... |
| 21:44.10 | RyanE | pretty complicated code to see Dr. Z. |
| 21:45.42 | harleypig | I've got vim setup to use whatever the one is called that sets up the Turbo Pascal like colors. |
| 21:46.07 | harleypig | It's perl. |
| 21:46.25 | tvc123 | sure it dosen't look like a camel? |
| 21:46.46 | RyanE | I think you've got Zoidberg Perl Mode (ZPM) turned on. |
| 21:46.48 | harleypig | The best part is I have at least a blank line between each statement, like statements ... so I'm even further gone that it sounds. |
| 21:47.00 | RyanE | you know, now that I've said it, it must exist somewhere... |
| 21:47.01 | harleypig | Where's Dr. McKay when you need him |
| 21:47.20 | harleypig | heh |
| 21:54.49 | bbeattie | herlo: barry who's doing the linux mce presentation? I want to get in touch so we don't overlap as much as possible |
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| 22:06.30 | elg | all his ram |
| 22:06.56 | elg | er, |
| 22:07.04 | elg | watches gnuplot eat all his ram |
| 22:14.28 | elg | ok, shell script gurus, I want a wrapper script around a program that leaves stdout going to stdout and stderr going to stderr, but filters stderr with grep -v "indirect jmp without" |
| 22:18.03 | Tene | (foo 3>2 2>1 1>3 | grep -v "indirect whatever") 3>2 2>1 1>3 |
| 22:18.05 | Tene | does that work? |
| 22:23.52 | elg | sort of |
| 22:24.01 | tensai | that hurts my brain |
| 22:24.24 | elg | it messes up the return code |
| 22:24.30 | elg | which makes make complain |
| 22:28.55 | Tene | you need me to fix that too? |
| 22:29.07 | elg | well it's little use without that. :) |
| 22:29.11 | elg | but good work |
| 22:29.14 | elg | ~snack tensai |
| 22:29.14 | ibot | ACTION throws tensai a doggy treat |
| 22:29.18 | elg | ~snack Tene |
| 22:29.18 | ibot | ACTION throws Tene a doggy treat |
| 22:29.33 | elg | i'll see if my big unix book of tricks at home has a solution |
| 22:29.46 | Tene | ((foo $RETURN=$?) | grep) ; exit $RETURN |
| 22:29.52 | Tene | try that, with the redirects |
| 22:29.59 | Tene | erm... |
| 22:30.04 | Tene | foo; RETURN=$? |
| 22:30.09 | Tene | like that |
| 22:30.12 | Tene | bbiab |
| 22:43.26 | harleypig | MONKEYS FLINGING POO! |
| 22:43.36 | dataw0lf | http://blog.vipul.net/2008/08/24/redhat-perl-what-a-tragedy/ |
| 22:43.42 | harleypig | I hate making silly stupid mistakes that bring down an important app. |
| 22:50.09 | Jayce^ | harleypig, way 2 go....... again |
| 22:50.20 | tensai | harleypig: why did you code poo flinging monkeys into your app? |
| 22:51.34 | Jayce^ | dataw0lf, yeah, RH has a history of trying to kill perl via their builds and/or their packaging |
| 22:52.16 | nick125 | You really can't trust binary distros these days. |
| 22:54.40 | harleypig | Jayce^: yeah yeah |
| 22:54.49 | harleypig | tensai: I didn't ... they slipped in unnoticed |
| 22:56.04 | harleypig | And it's not my fault ... this stoopid code uses a stoopid single connector app that is ugly ugly ugly |
| 22:56.12 | harleypig | and I forgot to update it on the live server. |
| 22:56.24 | harleypig | so it was working on my alpha but not on live. |
| 22:57.53 | harleypig | I wonder if that bug affects us ... hmmm ... I'm gonna pass that link on to our senior developer. |
| 23:00.20 | herlo | bbeattie: oh, bmac2 is his nick, let me see if he's on right now |
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