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| 01:32.53 | levi | My garden is being overrun by crenshaw melons. I think the first of them will be ripe in a week or two. |
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| 01:48.30 | graphyx | does that mean you are going to throw a watermelon bash? |
| 01:48.53 | graphyx | Levi, 2600 is one of the original hacker/phreaker groups. |
| 01:49.19 | graphyx | 2600 khz is the frequency that was used to trigger a coin insertion into a pay phone. |
| 01:49.38 | graphyx | or perhaps it was just 2600 hertz |
| 01:49.40 | graphyx | sorry. |
| 01:50.00 | graphyx | But nonetheless, that is the origin. |
| 01:50.26 | graphyx | I suspect that with the rise of the internet the focus shifted to communications in general rather than just phones. |
| 02:16.59 | levi | I couldn't throw a watermelon bash with crenshaw melons. |
| 02:17.28 | levi | I'm familiar with the old 2600 group, but I wondered what specifically the Utah group does. |
| 02:53.54 | graphyx | I have no idea. |
| 02:53.59 | graphyx | I hope to find out. |
| 03:18.37 | levi | Heh, this guy sounds like he's great fun at parties: http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2008/aug/09/slavoj.zizek |
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| 05:38.20 | encryptz | why gnupg v2 vursus gnupg v1? |
| 05:38.38 | levi | Because v2 is always better than v1? :P |
| 05:39.38 | encryptz | it's a bigger number, so it has to be better |
| 05:39.49 | levi | Exactly. |
| 05:47.44 | levi | This looks interesting: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0465029167 |
| 05:49.56 | levi | It posits that, with private property ownership, there is such thing as too much of a good thing. |
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| 06:05.50 | findlay | hello |
| 06:21.48 | levi | Hi. |
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| 06:35.56 | Tene | HI! |
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| 06:43.01 | Tene | http://www.vimeo.com/1211060 -- fun, cheerful video. |
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| 06:43.15 | findlay | +--+ | | |
| 06:43.24 | findlay | | | | . |
| 06:43.30 | findlay | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:43.35 | findlay | whatever |
| 06:43.37 | Tene | Hah, sargun broke your greeting! |
| 06:43.46 | findlay | let me try again |
| 06:43.52 | findlay | | | --- | |
| 06:43.56 | Sargun | huh? |
| 06:43.57 | findlay | +--+ | | |
| 06:44.04 | Sargun | what is findlay doing? |
| 06:44.07 | findlay | | | --- . |
| 06:44.09 | findlay | dude |
| 06:44.15 | findlay | I give up |
| 06:44.23 | Tene | laughed way too much. |
| 06:44.30 | Sargun | :-P |
| 06:48.57 | levi | Gah, I can't figure out how these 24-bit flexbus addresses are being mapped onto this device's 32-bit memory space. |
| 06:54.12 | Sargun | Magic, or gnomes. |
| 06:58.10 | levi | Well, I've got a document that's got a brief section describing it, but it makes little sense. |
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| 06:59.11 | findlay | +--+ | | |
| 06:59.11 | findlay | | | --- . |
| 06:59.13 | findlay | ha |
| 07:06.07 | Sargun | damn you! |
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| 13:52.10 | encryptz | /bin/sh: figlet: command not found |
| 13:57.16 | encryptz | /bin/sh: figlet: command not found |
| 13:57.24 | encryptz | meh |
| 13:57.27 | elg | -cowsay moo |
| 13:57.34 | elg | -figlet moo |
| 13:57.46 | elg | ~figlet moo |
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| 14:39.00 | elg | -metar |
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| 14:45.27 | elg | -figlet yes me again |
| 14:45.40 | elg | -chat |
| 14:45.42 | brac | I like how it goes. |
| 14:46.26 | elg | -metar klru |
| 14:46.27 | brac | KLRU 111433Z AUTO 16006KT 10SM CLR 23/19 A3007 RMK AO2 |
| 14:47.02 | elg | umm, ok |
| 14:47.28 | elg | ot |
| 14:47.33 | elg | it's like overcast dude |
| 14:51.35 | levi | Good morning. |
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| 15:01.41 | Jayce^ | so much for Vista... http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid14_gci1324395,00.html |
| 15:01.52 | brac | [Windows Vista security 'rendered useless' by researchers] |
| 15:02.38 | eggyknap | wonders if any parts of Vista weren't already useless |
| 15:03.30 | levi | Jayce^: Stupid sensationalistic headline. |
| 15:04.09 | levi | Jayce^: See the Ars Technica article on it instead. |
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| 15:06.29 | Tene | ibot: google ars technica vista security rendered useless |
| 15:07.28 | Tene | ibot: be helpful |
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| 15:11.03 | herlo | http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/end |
| 15:11.04 | brac | [Flash » The End of the World] |
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| 15:11.38 | levi | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080811-the-sky-isnt-falling-a-look-at-a-new-vista-security-bypass.html |
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| 15:14.04 | sjansen | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/08/11/funny-pictures-cheeeeezz/ |
| 15:15.15 | levi | 'Scrumworks' is a such a piece of garbage. |
| 15:15.50 | sjansen | ~hug levi |
| 15:15.51 | ibot | ACTION sneaks up on levi and suddenly hugs levi tightly |
| 15:17.41 | levi | Hey! |
| 15:17.57 | harleypig | has anyone built a irssii/twitter plugin? |
| 15:18.04 | sjansen | Ah, there's your problem. You must not be using Scrumworks Pro. "Now with 30% less suck!" |
| 15:18.24 | levi | No, I don't think we're using Scrumworks Pro. |
| 15:19.16 | levi | Does Pro have cut and paste support? |
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| 15:29.32 | encryptz | harleypig: bitlbee or irssi-xmpp |
| 15:29.43 | encryptz | er, wait. you said twitter |
| 15:29.52 | encryptz | goes back in his cave |
| 15:30.08 | harleypig | encryptz: heh |
| 15:30.38 | encryptz | harleypig: yes, actually. goozbach and sontek were working on one |
| 15:30.45 | encryptz | not sure the status of it though |
| 15:30.49 | harleypig | I should probably get those working on my system again as well. |
| 15:30.56 | harleypig | ~seen goozbach |
| 15:31.00 | ibot | goozbach is currently on #utah (5d 23h 19m 16s) #lugot (5d 23h 19m 16s). Has said a total of 44 messages. Is idling for 3d 18h 6m 20s, last said: 'yowzers'. |
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| 15:31.11 | harleypig | ~seen sontek |
| 15:31.12 | ibot | sontek <n=sontek@opensuse/member/Sontek> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 11d 11h 47m 40s ago, saying: 'PC Cruelty!'. |
| 15:31.20 | harleypig | meh |
| 15:31.47 | harleypig | thx encryptz |
| 15:31.50 | encryptz | np |
| 15:33.57 | herlo | harleypig: hi |
| 15:34.07 | harleypig | yo herlo! |
| 15:34.21 | herlo | harleypig: I'm working on the volunteer schedule, any particular presentations you *must* see?? |
| 15:34.40 | herlo | http://2008.utosc.com/speaker/list/ <-- this may help |
| 15:35.22 | goozbach | hello |
| 15:35.27 | herlo | goozbach: hola |
| 15:35.28 | harleypig | Looking ... the extjs presentation definitely. |
| 15:35.33 | herlo | looks |
| 15:35.42 | harleypig | goozbach: you were working on a twitter plugin for irssii? |
| 15:35.54 | herlo | harleypig: you're not scheduled for that one, or at that time... |
| 15:36.07 | herlo | harleypig: twitter is old news, use identi.ca |
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| 15:36.14 | goozbach | harleypig: yeah, but all the crap they were pulling with the API caused me to leave it for a while |
| 15:36.18 | goozbach | it's till avalible |
| 15:36.58 | goozbach | http://projects.friocorte.com/twitter-irssi/ |
| 15:37.05 | harleypig | oh, cool. thx |
| 15:37.24 | goozbach | it works (kinda) still needs some cleanup |
| 15:37.32 | goozbach | patches welcome! |
| 15:37.37 | harleypig | herlo: I'd like to see the AI presentation as well. |
| 15:37.42 | sjansen | identi.ca is old news, use two tin cans and a string |
| 15:37.57 | herlo | goozbach: did you finally fix your brokened dns server? |
| 15:38.02 | Jayce^ | use ping.fm |
| 15:38.05 | goozbach | brokends? |
| 15:38.11 | goozbach | what wasw brokened? |
| 15:38.11 | harleypig | herlo: I want one app to rule them all and in the darkness bind them |
| 15:38.14 | herlo | harleypig: k |
| 15:38.25 | goozbach | ~host no.bottles-of-beer.friocorte.com |
| 15:38.25 | ibot | see nslookup no.bottles-of-beer.friocorte.com |
| 15:38.26 | herlo | harleypig: agreed on that...who knows when that will happen |
| 15:38.36 | harleypig | Google's headed that way. |
| 15:38.37 | goozbach | ~nslookup no.bottles-of-beer.friocorte.com |
| 15:38.50 | harleypig | I'll gladly drink Googles kool-aid ... :> |
| 15:38.53 | herlo | goozbach: I tried to do a zone transfer |
| 15:38.57 | goozbach | ahh |
| 15:39.00 | goozbach | I'll look at that |
| 15:39.04 | herlo | to show the students |
| 15:39.26 | goozbach | herlo: I changed dns servers |
| 15:39.28 | goozbach | just a sec |
| 15:39.30 | herlo | it seems its been brokened since about the time you guys moved servers over to t4 |
| 15:39.40 | harleypig | herlo: those are the only two I have any opinion on either way. |
| 15:40.03 | herlo | k |
| 15:40.09 | goozbach | host -l friocorte.com NS1.NEVERBLOCK.COM |
| 15:40.11 | herlo | harleypig: when's the AI one? |
| 15:40.21 | goozbach | ns1.friocorte.com is no more |
| 15:40.44 | herlo | oh |
| 15:40.51 | herlo | well that makes sense |
| 15:40.51 | goozbach | check whois first to show a more plausible "attack" |
| 15:41.02 | herlo | yeah, lazy me |
| 15:41.03 | goozbach | and how you get that information |
| 15:41.29 | harleypig | herlo: Aug 28, 3:30 p.m |
| 15:41.34 | herlo | k, checking now |
| 15:42.30 | herlo | harleypig: easy adjustment, you are now room manager for that one |
| 15:43.47 | elg | jsmith: hey thanks for that enlightenment |
| 15:43.51 | elg | maybe there's hope for it yet |
| 15:44.30 | harleypig | herlo: Cool. thx |
| 15:44.31 | elg | i realize of course that shoehorning that "no information loss" data model into GEDCOM would be tricky at best and probably undesirable |
| 15:44.52 | elg | but some kind of export, even an xml file, would be nice |
| 15:45.17 | herlo | elg: are you referring to your family search app? |
| 15:45.36 | elg | my app? just to new.familysearch.org in general |
| 15:45.53 | elg | which apparently not everyone can access yet, only if your temple has made the switch |
| 15:45.57 | herlo | elg: okay, I meant your blog post |
| 15:46.00 | elg | right |
| 15:46.01 | herlo | about family search |
| 15:46.09 | elg | jsmith left a good comment |
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| 15:55.34 | jsmith | elg: I'm glad you liked it... your mission (should you choose to accept it) is to write a decent Linux PAF-like interface with persistent data |
| 15:56.01 | bonez45 | PAF being the geneology program? |
| 15:56.17 | elg | someday i just might. it would be spartan, cross-platform, and totally awesome |
| 15:56.19 | elg | and i'll be like 40 |
| 15:56.25 | jsmith | bonez45: Yes |
| 15:56.39 | jsmith | elg: That's getting closer every day :-) |
| 15:56.47 | elg | :) |
| 15:56.52 | jsmith | elg: (or, in other words, it'll be out before Duke Nukem Forever!) |
| 15:57.21 | elg | that's assuming sjansen doesn't mow me down first |
| 15:59.02 | elg | in the meantime (thanks to our church schedule change so now we meet at 9 and the whole day isn't wasted), i'm going through our ancestry one person at a time cleaning up the database |
| 15:59.35 | elg | by ahnentafel (fancy way of saying by generation) |
| 15:59.47 | elg | with any luck i'll find some actual genealogical work that can be done on the leaves |
| 16:00.06 | elg | at least I'll have a database I can not be ashamed of :) |
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| 16:12.01 | herlo | inux for human beings lol --> http://picasaweb.google.com/ke4qqq/Ubuntucdstand/photo#5233291512899658706 |
| 16:23.20 | Tene | What, no inux for LOLCATS? |
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| 16:50.06 | findlay | Tene: that's up to you to change |
| 16:50.41 | herlo | Tene: feel free to edit the pic :) |
| 16:50.52 | unum | I know have three computers working with synergy |
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| 16:51.29 | findlay | unum: you know you have three synergestic computers? |
| 16:51.48 | unum | ooooooh |
| 16:52.49 | elg | -metar |
| 16:52.49 | brac | KLRU 111630Z AUTO 20005KT 10SM CLR 27/19 A3009 RMK AO2 |
| 17:07.47 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 17:07.48 | ibot | DoSes fungus |
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| 18:40.36 | Keighvin | ~lart readbeard2 |
| 18:40.36 | ibot | throws readbeard2's poor little doggy off a cliff |
| 18:40.42 | Keighvin | WHUMP |
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| 18:59.56 | harleypig | little doggy ?= chihuahua |
| 19:00.28 | harleypig | if so, then sound would be <monty python>yip</month python> |
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| 19:19.02 | Jayce^ | ~lart Keighvin |
| 19:19.02 | ibot | chops Keighvin in half with a free AOL CD |
| 19:28.38 | Tene | opinions on blog-o-site softwares? |
| 19:28.48 | Tene | I vaguely recall someone saying good things aobut Movable Type. |
| 19:29.17 | redbeard2 | Tene: better than Immutable Type |
| 19:29.28 | Tene | Depends on what's written. |
| 19:29.34 | elg | limericks. |
| 19:29.38 | elg | -chat if only |
| 19:29.39 | Tene | I can think of a few cases where type being immutable would be an advantage. |
| 19:29.42 | brac | if only people who are you? in a dorm..... :-p |
| 19:29.50 | elg | -chat there once |
| 19:29.50 | harleypig | there once was a man from nantucket ... |
| 19:29.50 | brac | there once |
| 19:29.58 | elg | -chat there once |
| 19:29.59 | brac | there once was a good first step towards an Internet raffle :) |
| 19:30.42 | elg | -chat there once |
| 19:30.43 | brac | there once was a wasted one for you that the whole book, as people without bcc, and the DNS incremental zone transfer? |
| 19:31.00 | unum | checks limerickdb for updates |
| 19:31.10 | elg | -movietitle |
| 19:31.10 | brac | Title: PRIMAL DESIRE VII |
| 19:32.07 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.07 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.07 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.08 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.08 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.11 | levi | WTF, Chandler was actually released at 1.0. |
| 19:39.21 | Tene | What's Chandler? |
| 19:39.50 | elg | a funny rich california kid i knew in connecticut |
| 19:39.55 | elg | i don't know why they released him though |
| 19:39.56 | levi | The PIM thing that Mitch Kapor started about 6 years ago with grand dreams. |
| 19:41.40 | levi | Ooh, Krishnamurthi vs. teaching programming language paradigms: http://www.cs.brown.edu/~sk/Publications/Papers/Published/sk-teach-pl-post-linnaean/ |
| 19:41.44 | brac | [Teaching Programming Languages in a Post-Linnaean Age] |
| 19:42.07 | unum | oops |
| 19:42.26 | unum | nm my window didn't refresh right |
| 19:48.02 | findlay | -chat refresh |
| 19:48.03 | brac | refresh is |
| 19:52.59 | elg | hmm, this chandler thing is worth a look |
| 19:55.42 | levi | I'll stick to org-mode in emacs. :) |
| 19:55.55 | findlay | levi: your hardware expertise is requested |
| 19:56.06 | levi | findlay: What kind of expertise do you need? |
| 19:56.25 | findlay | levi: I get this error All The Time: "bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing." |
| 19:56.51 | levi | That sounds bad. |
| 19:56.51 | findlay | I thought at first it was a flaky SATA cable, so I got a new one with clips on it |
| 19:57.09 | findlay | I know it indicates a hardware error, but I'm just not sure where |
| 19:57.21 | findlay | I don't think it's the RAM |
| 19:57.54 | levi | Could be the hard drive itself. See any errors in the system logs? |
| 19:57.59 | findlay | and, of course, if this is happening for bzip2, it's happening for everything else |
| 19:58.08 | findlay | levi: what kinds of errors? |
| 19:58.09 | ^Migs^ | lol: http://www.notified.tv/ |
| 19:58.47 | levi | findlay: read/write failure type things, anything out of the ordinary. |
| 20:00.08 | findlay | levi: I often get kernel panics having to do with mmap |
| 20:00.32 | findlay | and sometimes resource intensive processes will randomly hang and/or go zombie |
| 20:01.06 | findlay | the bzip2 rw errors are the main symptom I've noticed |
| 20:01.14 | elg | i'll probably stick to my hipster |
| 20:01.22 | elg | but i'm a sucker for at least looking at productivity tools |
| 20:01.42 | sjansen | levi: I played with one of the release candidates. Dog slow. |
| 20:01.53 | findlay | -chat sjansen's dog |
| 20:01.53 | brac | sjansen's dog |
| 20:02.03 | levi | sjansen: Not surprising. |
| 20:02.13 | levi | Like I said, I'll stick with org-mode in emacs. |
| 20:02.39 | elg | ^Migs^: heh, a poor man's tivo? |
| 20:02.57 | sjansen | I find it interesting that about a year after Mitch Kapor gave up and walked away, they finally released. |
| 20:03.30 | levi | Yay, I have a debugger prompt for my Coldfire eval board. |
| 20:03.34 | ^Migs^ | seems stupid they limit it to TV shows |
| 20:03.43 | ^Migs^ | why not, you know, a general "reminder service" |
| 20:03.52 | ^Migs^ | someone didn't think that one through |
| 20:04.16 | elg | trying to differentiate themselves I guess |
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| 20:04.19 | sjansen | levi: Did you notice the link to a free book using the teaching method he recommends? |
| 20:05.14 | tristanbob_ | who started the recent georgia/russia conflict? the news reports don't mention it |
| 20:05.22 | levi | sjansen: Yup, I've read through bits of it before. |
| 20:05.28 | levi | It's a pretty good book. |
| 20:05.48 | elg | so what's the abstract? his abstract wasn't very helpful |
| 20:05.53 | elg | "it's new and neat and you'll love it' |
| 20:05.57 | elg | doesn't count as an abstract |
| 20:09.09 | levi | elg: Well, he's got a few points. One, is that relatively impure (paradigmatically speaking) languages are now the norm. Two, is that more and more people are likely to design languages (whether they be full languages or just domain-specific ones), so it makes sense to make a strong course that really teaches how to do it. |
| 20:09.43 | levi | And three, he gives his approach which is a fusion of the two major teaching paradigms for a programming languages class. |
| 20:10.08 | levi | He uses the language survey approach to motivate the teaching of definitional interpreter segments. |
| 20:10.41 | levi | So, e.g., you learn a bit about haskell and write a couple of simple haskell programs before adding lazy evaluation to your interpreter. |
| 20:12.58 | findlay | frankensteinian languages |
| 20:13.17 | findlay | c++, java, c#, ocaml, perl, ruby, python |
| 20:13.44 | elg | cj#oprr |
| 20:13.46 | elg | p |
| 20:13.55 | findlay | heh |
| 20:14.03 | elg | "kajoper" for short |
| 20:14.19 | findlay | the cj#oprrp languages |
| 20:23.37 | mrpull | what... wait... virtualbox got bot by sun? |
| 20:24.28 | ^Migs^ | whaa? |
| 20:24.45 | mrpull | s/bot/bought/ |
| 20:24.56 | ^Migs^ | I didn't know that either |
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| 20:35.32 | elg | foo |
| 20:35.39 | elg | s/o*/ig/ |
| 20:36.10 | elg | ibot: are you too good for regexes? |
| 20:38.18 | jsmith | elg: Yes |
| 20:38.25 | jsmith | s/es/up/ |
| 20:38.50 | elg | s/jsmith/Mr. T/ |
| 20:45.15 | tensai | she only changes the last thing that *you* said |
| 20:45.25 | tensai | s/the.*/your mom/ |
| 20:45.46 | sjansen | mrpull ^Migs^ : that's _old_ news |
| 20:46.02 | mrpull | sjansen: agreed. somehow I missed it. |
| 20:46.33 | ^Migs^ | I probably knew it but forgot |
| 20:47.08 | sjansen | Sun now has to major virtualization solution. One is the Xen-based xVM targeted at data center use, and the other is VirtualBox targeted more at personal and developer use. |
| 20:47.35 | tristanbob_ | sjansen, xVM is the name of their datacenter product? |
| 20:47.43 | tristanbob_ | the "x" stands for xen? |
| 20:48.03 | hjp_lunch | x rated |
| 20:49.34 | sjansen | Well... I'm oversimplifying. Remember this Sun we're talking about. Marketing isn't happy until they've relabeled things so many times customers are too confused to communicate. |
| 20:49.36 | sjansen | Technically, xVM has become more of a brand (like Java) that may or may not have anything to do with Xen (or Java). |
| 20:49.48 | sjansen | VirtualBox is now actually xVM VirtualBox. |
| 20:50.14 | sjansen | http://www.sun.com/software/products/xvm/index.jsp |
| 20:50.52 | tristanbob_ | virtualbox is based on qemu, right? |
| 20:51.14 | sjansen | My understanding it that is no more based on qemu than Xen. |
| 20:51.39 | tristanbob_ | http://www.virtualization.info/2008/08/sun-opens-xvm-server-early-access.html |
| 20:51.41 | brac | [Sun opens xVM Server early access program | virtualization.info] |
| 20:51.57 | sjansen | All major GPL virtualization solutions have borrowed some code from qemu. And in turn, qemu has borrowed some from bochs. |
| 20:53.17 | tristanbob_ | requires mandatory jokes about bochs |
| 20:53.31 | tristanbob_ | whoops, got that mixed up with HURD |
| 20:53.47 | tristanbob_ | BOCHS != HURD |
| 20:54.08 | tristanbob_ | sjansen, do you think xvm server will be GPL? |
| 20:55.08 | sjansen | http://openxvm.org/download.html |
| 20:55.09 | brac | [openxVM Download] |
| 20:55.37 | sjansen | In other words, yes. |
| 20:56.51 | tristanbob_ | I see - so it looks like openxVM is competing with Vmware ESXi (the free version) |
| 20:57.20 | tristanbob_ | and Sun wants you to buy their OPS software to manage a virtualized infrastructure (similar to vmware ESX infrastructure) |
| 20:59.02 | tristanbob_ | "The xVM server is being built using technology from the Xen open source project as well as Sun⢠Logical Domains (LDOMS)." |
| 21:00.04 | sjansen | Which, if I understand correctly, means "containers". |
| 21:00.21 | tristanbob_ | containers means...? |
| 21:01.41 | tristanbob_ | sjansen, so many choices in virtualization - which do you like best? vmware, sun, citrix/xensource, red hat, suse, virtual iron, windows, others? |
| 21:02.02 | tristanbob_ | openvz is another one, I think |
| 21:02.22 | nick125 | I thought RH's virtualization stuff was Xen |
| 21:02.43 | sjansen | RH is moving toward KVM. |
| 21:03.07 | nick125 | sjansen: but they're currently using Xen, right? |
| 21:04.16 | sjansen | Personally, I prefer KVM. Right now I compile from source. In six months or so I'll probably just use VirtManager. |
| 21:04.19 | sjansen | nick125: correct |
| 21:05.24 | sjansen | RH looked around and saw that with so many solutions, Xen wasn't a guaranteed lock so they created libvirt as an abstracted management layer and VirtManager as a graphical interface on top of libvirt. |
| 21:05.54 | sjansen | Good thing too because my experience with KVM has been much more pleasant than Xen, even though KVM isn't fully baked yet. |
| 21:06.20 | sjansen | Ubuntu adopted libvirt and shipped KVM as their virtualization solution with 8.04 LTS. |
| 21:06.36 | tensai | I tried kvm a long while back and it was neat but very complicated. I recently tried xen and it was marvelously simple and useful. now maybe kvm has improved in 5 years (hopefully), but I really was impressed with xen. |
| 21:06.57 | sjansen | Novell is doing something with KVM, but details are sketchy. Although they have their own YaST based stuff, in openSUSE 11.0 they also included libvirt. |
| 21:07.29 | sjansen | tensai: 5 years? kvm is only about 2 years old. |
| 21:07.44 | tensai | hmm. I must be thinking of something else then. |
| 21:08.19 | sjansen | Perhaps the old Xen 2 stuff. It wasn't until Xen 3 that better tools came along to make it reasonable. |
| 21:09.29 | tensai | ah, I was thinking of uml |
| 21:09.29 | sjansen | At one point I sat down and made a list of every virtualization (not emulation) solution I knew of for Linux and I came up with about a dozen. |
| 21:09.44 | sjansen | Ah, yeah. Don't hear much about UML anymore. |
| 21:10.14 | sjansen | You thought UML was harder than Xen? Not my experience at all. |
| 21:15.30 | levi | elg: See this: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~charles57/GTD/org_dates/index.html |
| 21:16.17 | sjansen | I want to use emacs org-mode, but each time I try I can't get past the emacs key bindings. |
| 21:16.42 | levi | This is what years of emacs prejudice do to you. |
| 21:17.06 | elg | i don't think i'm that curious |
| 21:17.13 | elg | if i were an emacs user, maybe |
| 21:17.37 | levi | I'm not sure why you'd consider some bloated gui app like Chandler but not a nice terminal-friendly one like org-mode. |
| 21:17.41 | elg | i may have forgot to mention that although I'm a sucker for trying them out, they invariably fail to impress me. learning emacs so that I can fail to be impressed by a pim mode isn't high on my list |
| 21:18.05 | elg | uses a hipster PAA |
| 21:18.31 | levi | Well, the nice thing about org-mode is how free-form it is. |
| 21:18.56 | levi | Though, it is still typing stuff in the computer instead of writing it on paper, which is pretty much the ultimate free-form. |
| 21:21.17 | harleypig | be wary of the emacs curious ... they will lead you astray |
| 21:23.52 | nick125 | so, I kind of think that FWD just shot themselves in the foot. |
| 21:24.24 | nick125 | Who would really pay $30 a year for *nothing* (okay, just about nothing) |
| 21:24.27 | nick125 | ? |
| 21:24.46 | harleypig | nick125: people do it all the time ... that's how a lot of business make their money. |
| 21:25.03 | nick125 | harleypig: Well...how many people are going to pay for *nothing*? |
| 21:25.14 | nick125 | How much support are you going to get? Not much. |
| 21:25.22 | harleypig | If it's *advertised* as nothing then very little. |
| 21:25.50 | harleypig | If it's advertised as almost anything, then if people percieve a value in it, however empty it might be, they'll still want it. |
| 21:26.02 | bonez45 | anyone use a Palm treo 680? I am thinking of upgrading my current phone to that. |
| 21:26.14 | nick125 | bonez45: mmh...I'd avoid Palm if I were you. |
| 21:26.34 | harleypig | nick125: what are you talking about? I'm responding not knowing what's being discussed. |
| 21:26.41 | nick125 | harleypig: People will go "hey, look, XYZ is offering the same thing for free...I'll go to them!" |
| 21:27.02 | sjansen | nick125: And what would you recommend instead with a large catalog of software and a decent interface? |
| 21:27.04 | nick125 | harleypig: FWD is now charging a $30 annual membership fee for their SIP inbound serviceish. |
| 21:27.27 | harleypig | Ah. So then it isn't "nothing". |
| 21:27.43 | nick125 | sjansen: Something besides Palm. Palm has just about killed the Palm OS Treos, so if you want Palm OS, you get a toy. |
| 21:27.45 | harleypig | If a name can be associated with it then it isn't nothing.. |
| 21:28.36 | nick125 | For instance...IPKall gives out free routable Washington State DIDs. FWD charges $30 for...uhm, a FWD number? |
| 21:28.50 | sjansen | nick125: Have you used a Treo? Admittedly, it is sad that Palm OS is pretty much dead, but the Treo is still a decent phone. |
| 21:29.11 | levi | sjansen: Of course he has, he only talks about it all the time. :P |
| 21:29.14 | sjansen | Not as flashy as an iPhone, but not a locked into AT&T either. |
| 21:29.16 | nick125 | sjansen: I have three of them sitting in the drawer |
| 21:29.17 | levi | Whine, whine, whine. |
| 21:29.48 | bonez45 | nick125: but I like the palm os... what would be a better alternative? |
| 21:29.56 | bonez45 | I don't want anything with Windows CE on it |
| 21:29.59 | Sargun | nick125, my treo got bricked today :-D |
| 21:30.01 | sjansen | So your thesis is "I don't like Palm. I can't suggest anything better. But don't buy Palm 'cause I don't like it." |
| 21:30.03 | Sargun | ISN'T THAT GREAT?! |
| 21:30.13 | nick125 | bonez45: I haven't really found one. I personally love my Blackberry Curve. |
| 21:30.22 | Sargun | Ugh, BBs aren't decent unless you're a corporation. |
| 21:30.38 | nick125 | Sargun: I haven't had to reset my phone in a week - how about you? |
| 21:30.52 | Sargun | It went into a reset loop this morning |
| 21:30.56 | Sargun | and its a brick now. |
| 21:31.03 | bonez45 | ah RIM. ok |
| 21:31.08 | nick125 | Sargun: So, how are you liking the Centro? Haha |
| 21:31.09 | Sargun | In other news, my OpenMoko isn't doing anything terrible. |
| 21:31.16 | sjansen | My Treo is still plenty reliable as long I keep the battery charged. |
| 21:31.17 | Sargun | I think I'll get a centro |
| 21:31.17 | Sargun | meh. |
| 21:31.31 | Sargun | sjansen, I use my treo 3-4 hours a day (tethered) |
| 21:31.55 | Sargun | I have the extended battery |
| 21:32.00 | Sargun | I can't keep it charged. |
| 21:32.35 | Sargun | No phone has been able to stand me. |
| 21:32.41 | levi | Gee, maybe you should get a device that's made for supplying internet access to a laptop. |
| 21:33.22 | Sargun | levi, Gee, did you consider I have more devices than just my laptop? |
| 21:33.25 | sjansen | Nah. Get a roommate and let him spend his money getting a device for supplying Internet access to a laptop. |
| 21:33.52 | sjansen | I'm already paying for a phone with a data plan. Why should I have to pay for anything else? |
| 21:34.01 | Sargun | sjansen, Yeah, you're right. |
| 21:34.04 | *** part/#utah bonez45 (n=scott@mail.FYRENICE.COM) |
| 21:34.17 | sjansen | Oh, and get a job with unrestricted Internet access in the office. |
| 21:35.48 | Sargun | I already got that. |
| 21:35.53 | Sargun | I need internet at the gym. |
| 21:36.00 | levi | My point is that cell phones are not typically designed to serve as long-term internet access providing devices. Expecting a small, lightweight device to do that is silly. |
| 21:36.57 | levi | Sargun: What do you need internet access at the gym for? |
| 21:37.55 | Sargun | IRC, email, etc... |
| 21:38.02 | levi | At the gym? |
| 21:38.04 | levi | Dude. |
| 21:38.09 | mrpull | WTF? |
| 21:38.16 | levi | That's seriously pathetic. |
| 21:38.17 | Sargun | What else do I do while running for 1 hour? |
| 21:39.03 | levi | Listen to an audiobook or podcasts or something. |
| 21:39.14 | sjansen | levi: Once you go past about 200 reps it's easy to lose count. It's also hard to remember "did I bend 10 pounds over my weight or 15?" Better to just immediately upload the info into a Web app with pretty graphic functionality. |
| 21:39.16 | Sargun | but if you need to clean up your email or something. |
| 21:39.30 | sjansen | s/bend/bench/ |
| 21:39.54 | Sargun | and sometimes I'll do streaming internet radio. |
| 21:40.22 | Sargun | I like in a place where radio coverage sucks. |
| 21:40.22 | sjansen | "Hey baby, my leg presses are improving asymptotically. Wanna see a graph?" |
| 21:40.26 | Sargun | hehe |
| 21:40.41 | levi | Ever heard of an iPod? |
| 21:41.00 | *** join/#utah Heartsbane (n=hearts@166-70-210-98.ip.xmission.com) |
| 21:41.01 | sjansen | I've already payed for a phone with audio capability. Why spend more money? |
| 21:41.21 | levi | sjansen: To avoid running down the batteries on your expensive phone. |
| 21:41.22 | nick125 | Phones these days are marketed as multimedia devices..so, why not? |
| 21:41.23 | sjansen | I want one device. Not a bat belt. |
| 21:42.03 | unum | so I got a geforce 8200 and installed the evil drivers. now my screen doesn't refresh correctly |
| 21:42.09 | unum | has anyone dealt with this? |
| 21:43.05 | harleypig | with a shotgun |
| 21:43.29 | unum | good idea |
| 21:43.30 | unum | :) |
| 21:43.41 | harleypig | explosive rounds |
| 21:44.48 | jsmith | sjansen: So, I've got two devices (a phone and a Nokia n810). I use the phone for what it was meant for, and the n810 for everything else. |
| 21:47.25 | Sargun | unum, Windows, or Linux? |
| 21:48.09 | *** join/#utah Jacolyto (i=c03c737b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-df76ff977f7766a4) |
| 21:48.25 | unum | Sargun: fedora |
| 21:48.35 | Sargun | unum, Hm, what kind of screen? |
| 21:48.45 | Jacolyto | what's this about olympic-sized thongs |
| 21:49.15 | goozbach | Jacolyto: you don't want to ask that question, trust me |
| 21:49.15 | RyanE | I dig the n800 as well. |
| 21:50.09 | jsmith | Jacolyto: This one? http://fedora-fr.spreadshirt.net/fr/FR/Shop/Article/Index/article/Sea-Sex-and-Fedora-3958941 |
| 21:50.29 | Sargun | Pissing off goozbach = ban hammer. |
| 21:51.48 | goozbach | pissing me off? |
| 21:51.54 | goozbach | I don't get pissed off |
| 21:52.00 | goozbach | and I've not banned a single sole |
| 21:52.07 | goozbach | souls on the other hand... |
| 21:52.28 | sjansen | ~taunt goozbach |
| 21:52.29 | ibot | ACTION taunts goozbach a second time |
| 21:53.50 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.45 | Supaplex | ~eat cheezeburger |
| 21:54.46 | ibot | ACTION slurps up all the cheezeburger available |
| 22:00.30 | sjansen | "In short, many more humans learn by induction than by deduction, so a pedagogy that supports it is much more likely to succeed than one that suppresses it." |
| 22:01.11 | sjansen | "In the name of not being judgmental, we may be running the risk of depriving our students of judgment itself." |
| 22:01.28 | sjansen | levi: Thanks for the link. I'm only on page 2 of the preface and already finding the book interesting. |
| 22:01.46 | levi | Shriram Krishnamurthi puts out good stuff. |
| 22:01.52 | Jacolyto | so the fedora thong... that's all "Get your olympic-proportion thong today!" is referring to? |
| 22:03.27 | sjansen | ~silence Jacolyto |
| 22:03.28 | ibot | ACTION shoves an apple in Jacolyto's mouth, shoves a spit through ... well, uhm, anyway ... then builds a nice fire and starts roasting |
| 22:03.40 | sjansen | Jacolyto: Some things we do not speak of for they are too painful. |
| 22:04.22 | Jayce^ | sjansen, go on, just tell him :) |
| 22:04.35 | goozbach | ~harleypig |
| 22:04.36 | ibot | rumour has it, harleypig is learned how to read @ 16:55 on 2006-10-18, or the local RMS figure, or a PITA!. Hagrid's stunt double |
| 22:04.45 | goozbach | ~thong |
| 22:04.45 | ibot | ACTION burns an image of harleypig jumping on a diving board wearing only a thong into $victims head |
| 22:04.55 | goozbach | ~thong Jacolyto |
| 22:04.55 | ibot | ACTION burns an image of harleypig jumping on a diving board wearing only a thong into Jacolytos head |
| 22:05.00 | goozbach | there ya go |
| 22:05.17 | goozbach | where's that picture of harleypig... |
| 22:05.43 | harleypig | which one? |
| 22:05.58 | harleypig | I refused to pay the blackmail, so it must be floating around the intertubes somewhere ... |
| 22:06.37 | harleypig | ~thong #utah |
| 22:06.37 | ibot | ACTION burns an image of harleypig jumping on a diving board wearing only a thong into #utahs head |
| 22:06.38 | unum | Sargun: samsung syncmaster 2243bwx |
| 22:07.03 | findlay | only one thong? Did you lose the other one? |
| 22:08.17 | Sargun | No, I mean VGA |
| 22:08.20 | Sargun | DVI, etc. |
| 22:08.32 | harleypig | *blink* |
| 22:08.51 | harleypig | findlay: wha? |
| 22:09.17 | findlay | hands harleypig a pair of shoes |
| 22:09.27 | harleypig | high heels? |
| 22:09.29 | sjansen | ~punish harleypig |
| 22:09.29 | ibot | ACTION forces harleypig to install and use Windows |
| 22:09.35 | harleypig | ewwww |
| 22:12.21 | findlay | ~windows |
| 22:12.22 | ibot | [windows] a 32 bit hack on a 16 bit operating system, originally designed for an 8 bit CPU, with a 4 bit system bus, made by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition... or the World of Warcraft bootloader, or the most important collection of bugs, or bloatware, or an operating system |
| 22:13.00 | findlay | ~windows harleypig |
| 22:13.01 | ibot | ACTION installs Windows ME on harleypig's PC. |
| 22:13.18 | harleypig | At least it wasn't WINCE. |
| 22:16.25 | unum | Sargun: dvi |
| 22:19.19 | *** part/#utah Jacolyto (i=c03c737b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-df76ff977f7766a4) |
| 22:20.22 | *** join/#utah pelaofeliz (n=PelaoFel@67.108.236.230) |
| 22:25.39 | Sargun | It will be funny when Microsoft gets a public bug repository for users. |
| 22:28.10 | findlay | buggy users? |
| 22:28.33 | Sargun | ~lart findlay |
| 22:28.33 | ibot | beats findlay into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy |
| 22:28.45 | findlay | ~bug Sargun |
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| 22:33.30 | elg | harleypig: i love the google ads on your blog |
| 22:33.48 | elg | Ads by Google |
| 22:33.48 | elg | Harley Jacket |
| 22:33.48 | elg | |
| 22:33.49 | elg | Harley Women |
| 22:33.49 | elg | |
| 22:33.49 | elg | Harley Pulley |
| 22:33.50 | elg | |
| 22:33.52 | elg | Rent Harley |
| 22:33.54 | elg | |
| 22:33.56 | elg | Harley Helmet |
| 22:34.16 | harleypig | They had Harley Babes and Harley Babies once ... |
| 22:34.17 | harleypig | :> |
| 22:34.18 | mrpull | elg: heh... I looked and thought what ads? |
| 22:34.30 | mrpull | ABP for the win! |
| 22:34.54 | elg | but do you ever get ads for pigs? |
| 22:38.17 | harleypig | I've never noticed. |
| 22:38.27 | harleypig | Too busy clicking on the babe llinks. |
| 22:43.11 | elg | if i rent harley, do i have to rent the thong separately? |
| 22:49.53 | bbeattie | anyone know the ~/.ssh/config option that turns off the yes/no host key prompt that you get when you ssh to a new system for the first time? |
| 22:50.06 | harleypig | elg: It comes with the package. |
| 22:50.17 | harleypig | You might almost say it *holds* the package. |
| 22:50.21 | harleypig | grins evilly |
| 22:50.51 | elg | fills out the order form. ship to sjansen. do you gift wrap? |
| 22:51.07 | harleypig | Is sjansen my pimp? |
| 22:51.23 | sjansen | ~travolta harleypig |
| 22:51.23 | ibot | ACTION replaces harleypig with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power |
| 22:51.46 | sjansen | ~threaten elg |
| 22:52.52 | elg | bbeattie: ssh_config(5) (StrictHostKeyChecking looks like what you want) |
| 22:54.11 | sjansen | bbeattie: elg is right |
| 22:54.12 | harleypig | ARGH ... sometimes people can be too clever with their perl! |
| 22:54.12 | harleypig | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.28 | sjansen | ssh -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no foo.example.com |
| 22:55.59 | sjansen | Be aware that it does still do key checks and deny access if the key doesn't match. |
| 22:56.37 | sjansen | The only solution I've found is a quick script to delete the key first... unless you're using SSH with the new obfuscated known_hosts format. |
| 22:56.59 | elg | obfuscated known_hosts? |
| 22:57.06 | jsmith | What's that? |
| 22:58.31 | sjansen | |1|qW1n7SnYUBLbH5p6Kt1LQkG7Lf4=|rze6oHJQeTzJEYDOCDRHLVFKbfM= ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABIwAAAQEA7cV4GzkfSDBc+0xadY72TwUAJC7w07JdnuOa1rgMbhLB+Rj7eeigfXGrfYK1RfqcExohpTz5jWOsh/VUQNJmrqiXRndgS3kAWy8Bic35WnMWprb4up66Rey+P3/2SuldXKiOpEaZps1hL9Q9hB9CiI0JWqdu9ASGjYBF8jTSVOaM5MLkNnEeKkZRyfAr+SbYBxrvzQ4HCXo8X+qSGyBxtbXWnNJsAcNyMkH/tPMEIjFgX1gKGkg0G7I9mrqe0cKEd4xdc4J5H4C48hBibpbcpL9RmhszuIZc1x0cxgzxZMMImYDg2v/aAnPWaFzhE9is2fEQxizmCFYoYxlwqdK63Q== |
| 22:58.46 | elg | what's the point of that? |
| 22:58.52 | harleypig | That reduces down to 'Too Many Secrets' |
| 22:58.55 | sjansen | That's from the known_hosts on my Ubuntu system. What host is that for? I have no idea. |
| 22:59.07 | harleypig | or Seatec Astronomy |
| 22:59.50 | *** join/#utah |Blade| (n=Bum@pool-96-242-42-36.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) |
| 22:59.55 | |Blade| | FUCK YEAH UTAH |
| 22:59.59 | |Blade| | Who else is naked atm? |
| 23:00.02 | sjansen | I'm really not sure what the point is. |
| 23:00.07 | sjansen | ~language |Blade| |
| 23:00.08 | ibot | ACTION grabs |Blade| by the ear and washes |Blade|'s mouth out with soap |
| 23:00.20 | *** mode/#utah [+o elg] by ChanServ |
| 23:00.38 | |Blade| | Im going to punch you in the balls if you ever do that again |
| 23:00.51 | *** kick/#utah [|Blade|!n=fugalh@dhcp25.cs.nmsu.edu] by elg (Oops, I did it again) |
| 23:00.51 | *** join/#utah |Blade| (n=Bum@pool-96-242-42-36.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:00.53 | sjansen | |Blade|: You won't be around long enough. |
| 23:00.58 | |Blade| | ~language elg |
| 23:00.59 | ibot | ACTION grabs elg by the ear and washes elg's mouth out with soap |
| 23:01.10 | sjansen | elg: You couldn't wait 5 seconds? |
| 23:01.14 | |Blade| | Your a liar |
| 23:01.21 | sjansen | |Blade|: Enjoy being kickbanned. |
| 23:01.25 | elg | sorry I spoiled your joke |
| 23:01.31 | elg | s/joke/quip/ |
| 23:01.38 | sjansen | ~forgive elg |
| 23:01.39 | ibot | Well, elg boy, I guess I could do that. But I believe forgiving is God's job, I'm just arranging the meeting. *blows elg head apart with .44 magnum* |
| 23:01.52 | sjansen | heh |
| 23:01.52 | |Blade| | I just want friends :( |
| 23:01.56 | sjansen | Didn't quite expect that one. |
| 23:02.01 | sjansen | | |
| 23:02.03 | harleypig | :D |
| 23:02.05 | elg | suuuure |
| 23:02.07 | sjansen | |Blade|: Yeah, sure, whatever. |
| 23:02.16 | |Blade| | be my friend irl? |
| 23:02.20 | harleypig | trolltrolltrolltroll |
| 23:02.27 | unum | well swearing at people isn't a good way to make friends in here... |
| 23:02.30 | elg | |Blade|: harleypig will be your friend. the thong is included with the package |
| 23:02.36 | harleypig | :> |
| 23:02.38 | |Blade| | NICE |
| 23:02.40 | |Blade| | I love thongs |
| 23:02.43 | *** join/#utah Lullaby (n=Nooblet0@static-76-161-51-155.dsl.cavtel.net) |
| 23:02.47 | Lullaby | sup guise |
| 23:02.48 | harleypig | Even scratching your eyes out won't help. |
| 23:02.52 | |Blade| | Hi lullaby |
| 23:02.53 | Lullaby | i herd you guize leik blade |
| 23:03.02 | *** mode/#utah [+v harleypig] by elg |
| 23:03.02 | *** mode/#utah [+v sjansen] by elg |
| 23:03.06 | |Blade| | yesh they do I am making so many friends |
| 23:03.08 | harleypig | uh oh ... we're being trolled. |
| 23:03.11 | |Blade| | this is the best channel ever |
| 23:03.13 | Lullaby | trolled |
| 23:03.20 | *** mode/#utah [+m] by elg |
| 23:03.32 | elg | so much easier than kickbanning random lusers |
| 23:03.33 | *** part/#utah Lullaby (n=Nooblet0@static-76-161-51-155.dsl.cavtel.net) |
| 23:03.36 | sjansen | wonders if bucky came back with a new name and a posse |
| 23:03.59 | *** mode/#utah [+v levi] by elg |
| 23:04.03 | *** part/#utah |Blade| (n=Bum@pool-96-242-42-36.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:04.14 | harleypig | I thought we had til September ... |
| 23:04.22 | *** mode/#utah [+v bbeattie] by elg |
| 23:04.22 | *** mode/#utah [+v mrpull] by elg |
| 23:04.22 | *** mode/#utah [+v Sargun] by elg |
| 23:04.22 | *** mode/#utah [+v brac] by elg |
| 23:04.31 | elg | september? |
| 23:04.32 | mrpull | ah... let the trolls stay |
| 23:04.33 | sjansen | ~define easy |
| 23:04.34 | ibot | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 23:04.41 | sjansen | ~dict easy |
| 23:04.47 | elg | i did. hi trolls! |
| 23:04.47 | harleypig | elg: before the idjits got their new computers. |
| 23:04.55 | elg | well, i let them but they got bored and left |
| 23:05.08 | sjansen | ~google Eternal September |
| 23:05.15 | mrpull | elg: that did work rather nicely |
| 23:05.25 | *** mode/#utah [-m] by elg |
| 23:05.34 | sjansen | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September |
| 23:05.46 | elg | ah, yes, september |
| 23:05.53 | elg | well school starts earlier these days for some reason |
| 23:05.55 | unum | hey I'm not a troll |
| 23:06.01 | *** mode/#utah [+v unum] by elg |
| 23:06.08 | unum | thank you |
| 23:06.10 | elg | high school started today here |
| 23:06.30 | unum | Sargun: did you see my post, changing my resolution fixed my problem |
| 23:06.32 | sjansen | Some school districts have year round school now. |
| 23:06.46 | unum | for high school? |
| 23:06.51 | elg | i used to think that would be the lame |
| 23:06.54 | elg | teh lame even |
| 23:07.02 | elg | but now i think it could be alright |
| 23:08.27 | sjansen | ibot: forgive $elg is <reply> Remember, it is better to forgive $elg than to receive. |
| 23:08.28 | ibot | Well, $elg is <reply> Remember, it is better to forgive $elg than to receive. boy, I guess I could do that. But I believe forgiving is God's job, I'm just arranging the meeting. *blows $elg is <reply> Remember, it is better to forgive $elg than to receive. head apart with .44 magnum* |
| 23:08.34 | sjansen | ibot: no forgive $elg is <reply> Remember, it is better to forgive $elg than to receive. |
| 23:08.35 | ibot | okay, sjansen |
| 23:08.56 | sjansen | ~forgive ibot |
| 23:08.57 | ibot | Remember, it is better to forgive ibot than to receive. |
| 23:09.39 | *** part/#utah brasto (n=brasto@97-117-71-212.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 23:10.12 | sjansen | âWomen love us for our defects. If we have enough of them, they will forgive us everything, even our gigantic intellects.â -- Oscar Wilde |
| 23:14.49 | harleypig | Adam was lonely in the garden of eden. he asked God for a companion. God said, "Well, I can give you a companion who will cook and clean and raise your children and never lose her temper". Adam says "How much will it cost me." God says 'An arm and a leg.' |
| 23:14.59 | harleypig | Adam thinks for a bit and says "What can I get for a rib?" |
| 23:20.01 | tensai | d'oh. I should have made bread 2 hours ago. |
| 23:20.24 | sjansen | ~make tensai bread |
| 23:20.25 | ibot | make: *** No rule to make target `tensai bread'. Stop. |
| 23:21.48 | tensai | ~foobarbaz |
| 23:21.49 | ibot | I am in chan #utah |
| 23:22.01 | tensai | ~forget foobarbaz |
| 23:22.01 | ibot | tensai: i forgot foobarbaz |
| 23:47.13 | findlay | ~unforget foobarbaz |
| 23:47.13 | ibot | findlay: Successfully recovered 'foobarbaz'. Have fun now. |
| 23:47.24 | findlay | ~literal cmd: foobarbaz |
| 23:47.31 | findlay | hm |
| 23:47.38 | findlay | whatever |
| 23:47.44 | findlay | ~forget foobarbaz |
| 23:47.44 | ibot | i forgot foobarbaz, findlay |
| 23:47.45 | harleypig | ~make love |
| 23:47.46 | ibot | make: *** No rule to make target `love'. Stop. |
| 23:48.18 | harleypig | ~make me |
| 23:48.20 | ibot | make: *** No rule to make target `harleypig'. Stop. |
| 23:48.24 | harleypig | :D |
| 23:48.42 | harleypig | ~make monkeys wiggle out yer butt |
| 23:48.43 | ibot | make: *** No rule to make target `monkeys wiggle out yer butt'. Stop. |
| 23:48.59 | harleypig | ~make me stop |
| 23:49.00 | ibot | make: *** No rule to make target `me stop'. Stop. |
| 23:49.09 | harleypig | feh |
| 23:50.08 | harleypig | ~make sjansen bend to my will |
| 23:50.08 | ibot | make: *** No rule to make target `sjansen bend to my will'. Stop. |
| 23:50.35 | harleypig | ~seen me |
| 23:50.36 | ibot | me <n=me@89.243.150.148> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 46d 6h 39m 52s ago, saying: 'whatsup?'. |
| 23:50.43 | harleypig | woops |
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