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| 02:53.48 | levi | Whee, my carpentry project was (mostly) successful. |
| 02:58.06 | Sargun | Cool. |
| 03:06.25 | levi | I made a TV stand with space for my receiver, DVD, and VCR that fits inside the corner alcove in the family room. |
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| 03:57.27 | levi | Man, where is everyone lately? |
| 04:01.51 | fozzmoo | Out watching fireworks. |
| 04:03.36 | levi | Heh. One day of fireworks is enough for me. |
| 04:03.47 | levi | Actually, I would be fine without fireworks at all. |
| 04:05.50 | fozzmoo | My kids still ooh and ahh... but I think I'm with you. |
| 04:06.13 | fozzmoo | I like going to the park where they're shooting them off and laying right underneath them. That's kind of exhilerating... |
| 04:06.17 | fozzmoo | until someone steps on your head. |
| 04:06.25 | nick125 | which can be a bad thing |
| 04:14.26 | levi | reads a free Tor ebook, "Old Man's War" by John Scalzi. |
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| 05:03.31 | tensai | go reo speedwagon, go! |
| 05:04.15 | nick125 | thinks he needs to block some people from his NTP server (or rate limit them) |
| 05:08.08 | jsmith | nick125: Or give them the wrong times :-) |
| 05:08.40 | nick125 | well..like the people using 2MB an hour, just in NTP traffic. |
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| 05:11.12 | jsmith | Ouch |
| 05:11.34 | nick125 | which, mind you, is hard to do. |
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| 06:59.11 | jsmith | Congratulations all... happy sys-admin day! |
| 07:17.15 | findlay | great |
| 07:17.23 | findlay | that's my mountain they're burning up |
| 07:17.47 | findlay | ~lart rogue college students with fireworks |
| 07:17.47 | ibot | blames rogue college students with fireworks for all the evil in the world |
| 07:18.11 | findlay | one thing's for sure, the Provo City fire department's got one good hike in front of them :) |
| 07:18.42 | findlay | at least it doesn't appear to be burning very fast |
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| 07:19.29 | sontek | they are lucky then |
| 07:19.49 | sontek | when we lit our mountain on fire it was spread 2/3 miles by time the firetrucks even got there |
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| 07:22.15 | findlay | wow |
| 07:22.30 | sontek | but the grass was really dry |
| 07:22.41 | findlay | well there's lots of scrub oak up there |
| 07:22.48 | findlay | around the 10th switchback |
| 07:52.44 | findlay | still going |
| 07:52.51 | findlay | quite a show |
| 07:53.00 | findlay | it's burned about a football field by now |
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| 12:36.33 | goozbach | it's sys-admin day! |
| 12:36.36 | goozbach | yay! |
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| 14:37.22 | harleypig | MONKEYS!!! |
| 14:38.27 | goozbach | where?! |
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| 14:44.54 | Sargun_screen | There. |
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| 15:20.46 | levi | Geez, the convicted spammer guy escaped from prison with the help of his wife and kids, and then he killed himself and them, except he failed to kill one of his teenage daughters and the infant. |
| 15:22.27 | Tene | wow. |
| 15:22.40 | fozzmoo | spam kills. |
| 15:23.05 | goozbach | fozzmoo: *shakes head* |
| 15:23.09 | goozbach | not cool |
| 15:23.15 | goozbach | he killed THREE kids |
| 15:23.38 | fozzmoo | and his wife and himself. |
| 15:23.46 | goozbach | I don't think it's a joking eventd |
| 15:24.01 | goozbach | it could be that I just finished reading the /. page at -1 |
| 15:24.16 | fozzmoo | Moral of the story: Don't help your spammer husband/dad escape from prison. |
| 15:24.28 | fozzmoo | Ungrateful jerk. |
| 15:31.50 | tensai | xen rocks |
| 15:32.10 | Tene | kvm++ |
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| 15:37.30 | levi | Heh, 82 year old woman in Southampton, UK, told not to take pictures of an empty wading pool due to fears of pedophilia. |
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| 15:48.37 | Tene | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080724-drm-still-sucks-yahoo-music-going-dark-taking-keys-with-it.html |
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| 15:53.27 | levi | Oh geez, The Aquabats have made a cartoon. |
| 15:53.38 | levi | http://p.castfire.com/castfire_v2.swf?file=http://video.boingboing.net/video/19293/bbtv_2008-07-24-215602.flv |
| 15:56.41 | findlay | Tene: I guess big brother wasn't competent enough |
| 15:57.31 | findlay | ~ska levi |
| 16:07.23 | Sargun_screen | aquabats? |
| 16:09.27 | Tene | ~aquabats |
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| 16:30.34 | goozbach | coolest thing ever! |
| 16:30.44 | goozbach | I learned how to cheat at a flash game |
| 16:30.58 | goozbach | anyone remember Chasm? |
| 16:31.10 | goozbach | http://www.freegamesnews.com/en/?p=801 |
| 16:31.25 | goozbach | you can do a speed run of it and not have to deal with the pipe maze |
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| 16:44.05 | elg | ~gloat |
| 16:50.33 | levi | elg: What are you gloating about? |
| 16:50.43 | elg | gas is 20 cents cheaper here |
| 16:50.59 | goozbach | jerk |
| 16:51.08 | levi | Back in he... er... New Mexico? |
| 16:52.04 | mrpull-lt | thanks goodness that most taxes are figured $.0x / gallon rather than % of price per gallon. |
| 16:52.22 | levi | Yeah. |
| 16:52.45 | levi | gas taxes really aren't very high. |
| 16:54.09 | levi | Heh, Delphi 2009 has Generics and Anonymous Methods. |
| 16:55.03 | mrpull-lt | actually.. think of this way... gas taxes used to be 18% and now they are closer to 10% |
| 16:55.10 | mrpull-lt | yay for "saving" on taxes |
| 16:56.12 | mrpull-lt | VCL was (is?) pretty cool |
| 16:56.37 | mrpull-lt | i'd love to see a Delphi like environment with Python at its core |
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| 17:03.39 | levi | Java is falling even further behind on the features spectrum. |
| 17:04.05 | mrpull-lt | how is if fairing in the popularity spectrum? |
| 17:04.51 | levi | Well, it's still very popular, I'm sure, though I haven't looked at any recent statistics. |
| 17:06.33 | jalance_ | rsimpkins: ping |
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| 17:26.32 | levi | Hmm, http://www.el-tunes.com/ |
| 17:26.34 | brac | [Viva La El Tunes!] |
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| 17:43.33 | tyce | hey guys, iptables question I'm hoping you could help me with... Do you know how to route ports locally? ie: instead of port 22 traffic coming in the firewall and then sent to another server, having it stay local on the firewall. Any help is greatly appreciated. |
| 17:44.25 | Sargun | FORWARD? |
| 17:44.47 | tyce | yeah |
| 17:45.01 | Sargun | iptables -I PREROUTING -p tcp --dst $SOMEBOX --dport 22 -j DNAT --to-destination 127.0.0.1:22 |
| 17:45.04 | Sargun | la! |
| 17:45.20 | tyce | like now, I have it doing this: |
| 17:45.24 | tyce | iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 22 -i eth0 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.1.11:22 |
| 17:45.32 | Sargun | yeah |
| 17:45.32 | tyce | oh ok |
| 17:45.35 | Sargun | what's wrong with that |
| 17:45.44 | tyce | so I can use 127. and it will stay local? |
| 17:45.47 | Sargun | yeah |
| 17:45.51 | Sargun | probably |
| 17:45.59 | tyce | nice, I always thought you couldn't do that |
| 17:46.00 | tyce | thanks |
| 17:46.59 | tensai | tyce: you could also use REDIRECT, which is like shorthand for DNAT to localhost |
| 17:49.04 | tyce | oh ok, like so? iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 22 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 22 ? |
| 17:50.14 | tensai | I think so |
| 17:50.34 | tyce | I'll give it whirl that way... thanks |
| 17:54.40 | nick125 | lemme know if it works |
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| 18:09.17 | tensai | iptables -s nick125 -j PARTY |
| 18:09.49 | Sargun | huh |
| 18:11.51 | nick125 | lol |
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| 18:14.21 | nick125 | I should setup transparent proxying |
| 18:47.34 | sontek | Hey, this has been happening for at least a day now: svn: URL 'http://anonsvn.mono-project.com/source/trunk/mono-ssdp/src/Mono.Ssdp/Mono.Ssdp.Internal/TimerDispatcher.cs' refers to a file, not a directory |
| 18:47.43 | sontek | anyone know what causes that? |
| 18:47.51 | sontek | is it just an svn:externals set on a file instead of a directory? |
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| 19:10.11 | levi | Huh, Rocky Anderson is currently testifying before Congress. |
| 19:10.24 | sontek | for? |
| 19:12.30 | levi | It's the hearing Kucinich was calling for to discuss Executive power and wheter Bush has committed impeachable offenses. |
| 19:12.40 | tensai | http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_9961177 |
| 19:21.13 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | so I have a dead power source... Can I chuck it in a dumpster, or do I need to take it to an electronics facility? |
| 19:21.54 | levi | A dead nuclear power source would definitely not go in the dumpster. |
| 19:22.05 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | darn |
| 19:22.28 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | no, it's an old 300watt powersource from an old P3 that someone gave me. |
| 19:25.41 | Sargun | PRoGRaMMeRQ, put it in someone else's trash can |
| 19:26.39 | levi | I imagine it should be treated the same as any other kinds of consumer electronics. |
| 19:30.03 | Tene | left in the garage in case you might need it? |
| 19:32.50 | levi | Heh. |
| 19:33.18 | Tene | It might not *really* be broken. |
| 19:33.21 | Tene | And What If?! |
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| 19:37.50 | Sargun | ~onjoin -bugQ |
| 19:37.50 | ibot | Sargun: ok |
| 19:37.57 | bugQ | aww. |
| 19:40.09 | Sargun | I hate sales guys. |
| 19:40.12 | Sargun | And SEs |
| 19:40.44 | bugQ | people who don't are posers. |
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| 19:46.02 | Tene | There are several sales guys that I don't hate. |
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| 21:13.04 | encryptz | http://qdb.us/143405 |
| 21:13.05 | brac | [QDB: Quote #143405] |
| 21:13.13 | encryptz | finally got approved. that was some time ago |
| 21:16.32 | levi | Heh. |
| 21:16.45 | fozzmoo | encryptz: ping |
| 21:18.26 | encryptz | fozzmoo: pong |
| 21:19.02 | fozzmoo | encryptz: Trying to PM you, but maybe you're not seeing it. |
| 21:19.32 | encryptz | you're not regged to nickserv, and i block unregged pms |
| 21:19.40 | fozzmoo | wha wha? |
| 21:20.04 | fozzmoo | Since WHEN is fozzmoo not a registered nickname?! |
| 21:20.11 | encryptz | (avoiding pm spam) |
| 21:20.24 | encryptz | fozzmoo: it may be regged, but you haven't identified |
| 21:20.29 | encryptz | is all. my bad |
| 21:20.41 | fozzmoo | nickserv says I'm fozzmoo_ |
| 21:20.46 | fozzmoo | I'm confused |
| 21:21.00 | encryptz | /msg nickserv identify <fozz's_password> |
| 21:21.15 | nick125 | or |
| 21:21.21 | nick125 | identify fozzmoo fozz's passwd |
| 21:21.35 | nick125 | that'll identify you under the fozzmoo account |
| 21:21.42 | fozzmoo | (03:21:08 PM) NickServ: (notice) You are already logged in as fozzmoo_. |
| 21:21.52 | fozzmoo | (03:21:29 PM) fozzmoo: identify fozzmoo PASSWD |
| 21:22.00 | fozzmoo | NickServ: (notice) fozzmoo is not a registered nickname. |
| 21:22.07 | encryptz | /wi fozzmoo |
| 21:22.08 | nick125 | hrm |
| 21:22.11 | encryptz | shows not ident'd |
| 21:22.16 | encryptz | /wi encryptz |
| 21:22.31 | fozzmoo | Well, I'll sign out and log in again and try to sort this out. |
| 21:22.51 | nick125 | set your server password to your nickserv password |
| 21:22.52 | encryptz | fozzmoo: if you have jabber, you can get my jid at aaron @ aarontoponce.org |
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| 21:25.16 | encryptz | nick125: if you're already logged in as your nick, '/msg nickserv identify <pass>' will work fine |
| 21:25.23 | fozzmoo | Back |
| 21:25.39 | encryptz | if you want to ident as another nick then '/msg nickserv identify <nick> <pass>' |
| 21:26.17 | nick125 | encryptz: yep |
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| 21:40.57 | levi | Hah, I love this: http://scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=341 |
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| 21:56.00 | bugQ | very nice. |
| 22:10.23 | levi | I don't imagine too many people would read an anti-Friedman book along with an anti-anti-Free Market book from another famous advocate of capitalism. |
| 22:17.49 | mrpull-lt | encryptz: hah! good one. i'm glad we are past the underwear parades. |
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| 22:28.05 | encryptz | mrpull-lt: :) |
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| 23:06.17 | harleypig | does anyone know of a way to have find tell you what type of file it's found? |
| 23:06.40 | harleypig | right now I have to run find twice, once to get the directories, second to get the files. |
| 23:06.49 | Sargun | file $SOMEFILE |
| 23:06.59 | harleypig | that's not find. |
| 23:07.26 | harleypig | I have to execute code on a remote box via an exec command. |
| 23:07.35 | harleypig | I want to minimize the traffic between those boxes. |
| 23:08.17 | harleypig | right now I'm doing "find /path/to/subdir -type d -printf '%T@ %p\n'" |
| 23:08.29 | Sargun | why via exec? |
| 23:08.39 | harleypig | then "find /path/to/subdir -type f -printf '%T@ %p\n'" |
| 23:08.45 | Sargun | can't you just install a shell? |
| 23:08.59 | harleypig | yes and no ... |
| 23:09.17 | harleypig | the preference is for me to use an existing exec function |
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| 23:09.43 | harleypig | we have several hundred boxes it can be run on and new code on those boxes is not to be taken lightly. |
| 23:10.07 | harleypig | So it's just easier to exec code from a central server. |
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| 23:10.52 | harleypig | in any case, that just handles types of directories and files ... which is fine, but I'd like a warning if any other file type shows up somehow. |
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| 23:12.49 | harleypig | Sargun: I tried "find /backup/cpbackup/*/harleypg -printf '%T@ %p\n' -exec file {} \;" and it gave me some weird file types. |
| 23:12.57 | harleypig | it wasn't very helpful. |
| 23:15.02 | Sargun | Where do you work again? |
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| 23:17.33 | harleypig | Sargun: bluehost |
| 23:17.35 | tyce_ | finally had a chance to try that iptables rule and it's still not letting me in, I must just be missing something simple, cause it should be able to route to itself |
| 23:18.09 | harleypig | I just want the types of files that find's -type switch recognizes. |
| 23:18.45 | harleypig | I don't care if it's an ascii file or a data file, just if it's a regular file or a directory or link, etc. |
| 23:21.45 | harleypig | AGHH ... I'm a moron! |
| 23:22.08 | harleypig | don't use 'file' ... use 'stat' in the -exec switch ... derrr |
| 23:25.07 | harleypig | This works: find /backup/cpbackup/*/harleypg -printf '%T@ %p ' -exec stat -c ':%F' {} \; |
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