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02:35.52rsimpkinsI brought up a picture of John McCain and Barack Obama and put them side by side. I asked my 5 and 4 year old which one they would vote for.
02:36.23rsimpkins'this one cause he looks like grandpa' 'this one, cause he isn't old.'  --- you can't beat the honesty of kids.
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02:53.35Sargunhttp://www.bigfatwhale.com/archives/bfw_363.htm
02:53.37Sargunhaha
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04:03.22leviGood evening.
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04:39.17leviWhere is everyone tonight?
04:44.22Sargunhere
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04:50.27jsmithlevi: Not in Utah, that's for sure :-p
04:50.48leviHeh.
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04:50.55leviWell, I'm in Utah.
04:51.16jsmithWell, I'm in Korea.
04:51.41jsmithAnd since I'm (arguably) somebody, then "everyone" is not in Utah, right?
04:55.19bonez45jsmith: good point..
04:55.25bonez45what's cooking in Korea?
04:55.45jsmithbonez45: All kinds of delicious food ;-)
04:55.51jsmithbonez45: (I'm here teaching an Asterisk class)
04:58.57bonez45really..I'd love to be there just for the food......
05:00.47jsmithThe food has been fantastic
05:02.46leviHeh.  I love how Ron Paul talks about how the 'Founding Fathers' soundly rejected the idea of a national bank.  I guess Alexander Hamilton wasn't a Founding Father in his book.
05:03.07jsmithbonez45: I had something today called "Bi-Bim-Bob" that was absolutely fantastic
05:20.25findlayman
05:20.34findlayI just had the most interesting experience
05:21.25SargunMy FR is getting here tomorrow.
05:21.30Sargunwoman.
05:21.33Sargunfindlay, you don
05:21.51findlaywhat's FR?
05:22.06Sargunfindlay, you don't have experiences. You're just an experiment created by scientists to better understand people who are mentally disabled.
05:22.11SargunFreeRunner
05:22.15SargunNeo FreeRunner
05:22.17SargunOpen Source Phone
05:22.19Sargunthat whole thing
05:22.25levifindlay: What was the most interesting experience?
05:30.11jsmithfindlay: Yeah... we're dying to hear!
05:34.07findlaywell
05:34.34findlaySargun: awesome
05:34.41findlayI'm jealous
05:34.46findlayanyway
05:34.56findlayso the experience of interest
05:35.22findlayjust got back from rehearsal with the tab choir and the Osmonds
05:36.06findlaywhen I got there there was a guy up talking with Mack that looked suspiciously like Kurt Bestor
05:36.26findlayKurt rocks.  He really knows what he's talking about
05:37.08leviYeah, Kurt Bestor is pretty cool.
05:38.09findlayI have a lot more respect for him now
05:38.29findlayI still have tickets to the concert if anyone wants to go :)
05:41.15findlay4 of them
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05:48.55leviWhich concert?
05:53.12leviAfter we went to a Kurt Bestor Christmas concert a few years ago, my wife insisted that I grow my hair out like his.  It didn't work very well.
05:54.03findlaylevi: the tab choir Pioneer day concert
05:54.11findlayI have tickets for Saturday
05:56.01leviAh, cool.
06:02.39rsimpkinsherlo: FYI - announcments sent.
06:04.49leviHuh, Bestor seems to have a bit of an unsettled life.
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06:12.02leviWoot, Chuck is coming back.
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06:24.26leviWTF, they're making the new Knight Rider series.
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06:45.47herlorsimpkins: k, I'll be there :)
06:47.19herlorsimpkins: I think you should actually update that post to say that the bbq will start at noon...
06:48.15herlonm, making the suggestion on the list
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15:13.27leviDoes anyone else get this reference?  I about fell off my chair from laughter: http://amorphia-apparel.com/design/wecanlive/
15:19.05sontekits over my head!
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15:25.39leviDid no one see Robot Jox?
15:31.07elgis that like what wall•e gets into when he goes through his teenage years?
15:34.27elgman, i forgot to mention the most important ergonomic factor
15:34.36elggood speakers and a closed door
15:36.06elgwell it's that time again. every year I give a presentation on computer music at the summer camp for high school students here
15:43.16unumelg: have you used the planet karma(sp) stuff?
15:43.27elgccrma
15:43.32elgyeah, I'm familiar with it
15:43.33unumah that's it
15:43.38elgnever used their distro though
15:43.59unumI was wondering about that.  I was hoping the important bits would get packaged by the main stream distros
15:44.19elgmostly yeah, but if you want bleeding edge awesome ccrma is a good way to go
15:44.21elgit's redhat-based
15:44.38elgthere used to be a debian-based one, agnula, but its funding ran out and it dissolved
15:44.39unumlevi: my favorite thing about that movie is how all the models are pregnant
15:45.00elgubuntu studio is ok, but only marginally more convenient than ubuntu or debian.
15:45.14elgaside from a specialized one like ccrma, debian testing or unstable is your best bet
15:45.22unumcool, thanks
15:45.52elgif you want bleeding edge. if you just want the tried and true apps and don't need bleeding versions of them, ubuntu studio is great
15:57.15leviunum: Practically all I remember about the movie is the 'We can live!' line.
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16:08.52eggyknapBummer.
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17:01.17bracforces emcnabb to listen to only emo music
17:01.26bracSummary: He's an otherworldly dishevelled astronaut who hides his scarred face behind a mask. She's a manipulative French-Canadian cab driver who inherited a spooky stately manor from her late maiden aunt. They fight crime.
17:03.07elgi'd see that
17:05.11emcnabbelg, how's it going?
17:05.39elgspacey
17:06.15elg-lastfm recenttracks fugalh
17:06.19bracrecenttracks for fugalh:
17:06.19bracHugh Le Caine – Dripsody, Otto Luening – Low Speed, Herbert Eimert/Robert Beyer – Klangstudie II, John Cage – Williams Mix
17:07.01elgOHM: The early gurus of Electronic Music
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18:03.29findlayhello
18:13.34levielg: John Cage, eh?
18:18.21elgthis one includes actual sound
18:18.31leviWell, yeah, most of them do.
18:19.02leviI downloaded a CD of some of his works for prepared piano.
18:19.39leviFrom emusic, back in the all-you-can-eat days.
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19:24.19MellenceEww...My sister said my nephew doesn't spit up much anymore, and within 1 minute of me holding him, he spit up all over my shirt
19:43.29nick125damn you /boot RAID! You've failed me again!
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20:14.24leviHmm, I may have walking pneumonia.
20:15.50eggyknaplucky you
20:16.32fozzmoolevi: That's better than running pneumonia, I've heard.
20:16.40fozzmoolevi: Take it easy, man.
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20:17.58sjansenhttp://techdirt.com/articles/20080720/1654101736.shtml
20:18.02brac[Techdirt: Sometimes The Customer Is Wrong]
20:18.12leviWalking pneumonia is just pneumonia that isn't bad enough to confine you to bed.
20:18.45leviIf I have got it, it's a particularly mild case, but I've had a persistent cough that gets worse when I lay down at night and a bit of a sore throat for over a week now.
20:19.08leviAnd I have a history of getting walking pneumonia. too.
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20:22.40sjansen~heal levi
20:22.40ibotACTION heals levi with Super Cow Powers.
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20:36.24unumsjansen: I've seen the guy I buy hardware from turn down a $2000 sale because he was concerned it was too bleeding edge
20:36.51unumthe customer went and bought a dell instead(through his employer) at MUCH hirer cost and it never worked right
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20:55.14fozzmoolevi: That sucks!
20:55.28fozzmoounum: Who's the guy?
20:56.18unumfozzmoo: posh
20:56.26fozzmoosnickers
20:56.31unumthough he can be a pain to get a hold of....
20:56.39fozzmooMike can be a pain... period.
20:57.01unumone time he found a hooker for me on the internet
20:57.22unumno I didn't call her
20:57.24fozzmooMike and I used to enjoy a really good relationship, then he decided (I have no idea why) I was a threat of some kind.
20:57.35fozzmoovery weird.
20:57.52fozzmooSo, yeah, he's a good guy, if he likes you. :)
20:57.58unumit wasn't you guys always screwing up his email was it :P
20:58.12fozzmooHe knows how to use e-mail?
20:58.37fozzmooEven when things were good, I only believed about half of the things he said.
20:58.50unumsupposedly, but he used to always claim the guys that ran his email server lost it all the time
20:58.53fozzmooHe likes to tell stories.
20:58.58unumya he does
20:59.07unumhe's a good salesman
20:59.11fozzmooYeah, he had some Windows e-mail server somewhere.
20:59.16unumit's interesting to watch him at his art
20:59.17fozzmooI offered to host his e-mail.
20:59.28fozzmooWe hosted his website for a little while.
20:59.34fozzmooHe never really used it then, tho.
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21:19.15lobo235Does anyone know how I can find out what paper sizes latex supports?
21:19.25lobo235I have googled and can't find an exhaustive list
21:22.51lobo235anyone?
21:23.17unumis there a limit?
21:23.43unumsorry I've never used lateX, but I thought it could do just about anything
21:23.53lobo235there are predefined sizes like a4paper, letterpaper, etc
21:24.05lobo235so i am trying to find a list of all the sizes
21:24.24unumthat could be distribution dependant
21:24.29lobo235yeah
21:24.38unumit may even grab it from the os
21:24.40lobo235there has to be a config file somewher
21:25.12sprpaper sizes in LaTeX can be modules you add in later IIRC
21:25.37sprthe standard sizes are usually shipped in each distro (a4, letter, legal, a6)
21:26.56lobo235do you know where those modules are located so I could see which ones my system has?
21:28.05sjansenlobo235: grep
21:28.07sprUsually in the latex install directory.
21:28.44sprsomewhere in there.
21:28.54lobo235ok
21:29.29sprSorry I can't be more specific, I haven't done much with latex since I graduated. My work system doesn't even have it installed.
21:30.05lobo235spr, thanks
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21:46.32fozzmoo<Nelson>Hah hah!</Nelson>
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22:10.49findlaywhatever, he left
22:11.05findlaylatex supports whatever paper size you want
22:11.25findlayI'm sure there's modules that will even make it easy for you
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22:43.39sjansenfindlay: Yeah, he wanted to know what the "easy" options were.
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