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| 01:24.33 | findlay | i want foods |
| 01:24.41 | findlay | i can has foods ? |
| 01:26.04 | lakshmi | no findlay |
| 01:26.06 | lakshmi | never. |
| 01:26.10 | lakshmi | you can never have food. |
| 01:26.20 | findlay | ~tene lakshmi |
| 01:26.21 | ibot | ACTION h4x0rz lakshmi onto parrot |
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| 02:32.56 | levi | findlay: No foods for you! |
| 02:34.26 | unum | it seems my touchpad on my eeepc already broke |
| 02:36.04 | levi | That's unfortunate. |
| 02:36.18 | unum | ya it is |
| 02:36.32 | fozzmoo | unum: That's sad. |
| 02:36.32 | levi | Time for a USB mouse! |
| 02:36.38 | levi | Or a real laptop. |
| 02:36.39 | fozzmoo | Under warranty at least. |
| 02:36.41 | fozzmoo | heh heh. |
| 02:37.13 | unum | ya |
| 02:37.23 | levi | Anyone with a laptop that small must be gay! |
| 02:37.24 | Sargun_screen | This is neat: http://veetle.com/channelList.php |
| 02:38.14 | levi | (that was a reference to the current PLUG goofiness) |
| 02:38.17 | fozzmoo | spews Diet Dew all over his keyboard |
| 02:38.20 | fozzmoo | Thanks a lot levi |
| 02:38.41 | levi | At least it was diet. It's less sticky. |
| 02:38.48 | unum | I wonder how I change my console settings with out a mouse |
| 02:39.13 | levi | I'm sure there's a way. |
| 02:39.17 | bugQ | levi: get one of those tiny retractable-cable mice. |
| 02:39.25 | fozzmoo | levi doesn't need a mouse. |
| 02:39.37 | unum | I'm going to get a little usb wireless mouse |
| 02:39.48 | unum | but I just got this yesterday |
| 02:39.54 | levi | I rearrange the bits with my MIND! |
| 02:40.06 | bugQ | oh, unum. |
| 02:40.18 | bugQ | wow, that bites. |
| 02:40.25 | levi | (with a little help from my hands and a trackpad or nib thingy) |
| 02:40.53 | bugQ | I should stop butting into conversations I wasn't at the start of. |
| 02:41.00 | unum | maybe it will come back |
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| 02:42.41 | levi | http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24019578-1248,00.html |
| 02:42.44 | brac | [Frantic rescue effort saves doll, not baby | NEWS.com.au] |
| 02:43.24 | levi | Moral of this story: Don't leave ultra-realistic baby dolls in your car. Or, don't buy the silly things at all! |
| 02:43.24 | Sargun_screen | http://www.reddit.com/info/6s5eg/comments |
| 02:43.32 | Sargun_screen | Upvote: http://www.reddit.com/info/6s5eg/comments/ |
| 02:44.21 | findlay | http://www.url.com/cool_story.phqrstuvwxyz |
| 02:45.55 | levi | findlay: That's not a *real* cool story, you poseur. |
| 02:46.01 | findlay | hehe |
| 02:46.30 | findlay | homework time |
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| 04:21.45 | findlay | man, I forgot how much I like Giuseppi Sinopoli |
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| 04:32.23 | tensai | findlay: friend of yours from high school? |
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| 04:40.53 | findlay | tensai: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_Sinopoli |
| 04:42.17 | Heartsbane | Hey... http://groklaw.net/ SCO owes Novell some money ($2,547,817 plus interest probably |
| 04:44.02 | findlay | maybe I should give them my $699 now to help out |
| 05:13.35 | findlay | ~factstats |
| 05:14.15 | findlay | ~factstats new |
| 05:14.48 | findlay | ~factstats author |
| 05:15.06 | findlay | yeah, 114 |
| 05:15.11 | findlay | I'm cool |
| 05:16.24 | findlay | ~factstats requesters |
| 05:17.40 | findlay | ~factstats requested |
| 05:19.43 | Mellence | has anyone else had problems with setting static ip's? |
| 05:21.06 | Mellence | running Slackware, i edit the rc.inet1.conf to not use the DHCP server, and use a static, and I don't connect to the network |
| 05:21.51 | Mellence | but checking with ifconfig, i have the right ip |
| 05:23.35 | infotron | can you ping your gateway? yourself? |
| 05:23.44 | findlay | what does route tell you? |
| 05:23.52 | findlay | route -n |
| 05:25.54 | Mellence | i can't ping anything that's outside of localhost, and route tells me that i stop at localhost |
| 05:26.25 | findlay | so you're not showing a gateway at all? |
| 05:26.28 | Mellence | no |
| 05:26.41 | findlay | sounds like a misconfiguration |
| 05:28.43 | Mellence | well, in the field for Ipaddr in rc.inet1.conf tells it the ip I need set, and, i have the right netmask, and am flaggin DHCP off, so I'm not sure what the problem is |
| 05:28.50 | Mellence | if i set the flag |
| 05:29.06 | Mellence | for DHCP on, i get the wrong IP, obviously |
| 05:30.29 | infotron | who is in control of the dhcp server? why is it giving you the wrong ip? |
| 05:33.18 | Mellence | well, it's the wrong ip for the ports that are forwarded to my old IP, before i did a reinstall of slackware |
| 05:35.22 | infotron | can you reconfigure the dhcp server to assign that system the ip you want? |
| 05:35.31 | Mellence | i don't have access to it |
| 05:36.32 | Mellence | if my dad was up, i could have him change the ip the ports are forwarded to |
| 05:36.39 | infotron | I know networking and linux, but not so much slackware. Does route -n show your router as a default gateway? |
| 05:36.40 | Mellence | but, he has work early, so |
| 05:37.01 | Mellence | route shows localhost only |
| 05:37.01 | infotron | ahh, findlay already asked that. |
| 05:37.55 | findlay | try manually adding the GW to the route? |
| 05:37.57 | infotron | in the meantime, you can run route add default gw ip.ip.ip.ip dev ifif where ip.ip.ip.ip is the ip address of the router, and ifif is the interface (usually eth0 for wired) |
| 05:38.10 | findlay | route add default gw <ipaddr> |
| 05:38.22 | sontek | SCO owes Novell lots o' money |
| 05:38.26 | infotron | but you'll want to scratch the slackware heads on how to configure it for the long term. |
| 05:38.32 | sontek | If I worked there, I'd be asking for a raise :P |
| 05:38.32 | findlay | but you're *supposed* to use the iproute2 commands |
| 05:39.24 | findlay | because route/ifconfig is the Old Way |
| 05:41.08 | findlay | sontek: $2.5M doesn't seem like that much dough to me |
| 05:42.27 | Mellence | no dice on adding the gateway |
| 05:42.43 | infotron | novell> Hey SCO, we pwn yew! |
| 05:43.01 | findlay | Mellence: sure you have the right GW for your IP addr? |
| 05:43.06 | Mellence | ya |
| 05:43.10 | infotron | maybe his netmask is too narrow |
| 05:43.31 | Mellence | i initially had my brother try and set up the static IP, and he couldn't figure it out either |
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| 05:43.46 | infotron | what's the ip you are suppose to use? |
| 05:43.57 | Mellence | 192.168.1.99 |
| 05:44.08 | infotron | and it's a 255.255.255.0 netmask? |
| 05:44.11 | Mellence | yes |
| 05:44.13 | infotron | wild guess.. |
| 05:44.21 | infotron | ok, so what's the gateway? |
| 05:44.22 | findlay | that's a rfc 1918 private addr |
| 05:44.30 | findlay | right? |
| 05:44.35 | Mellence | yes |
| 05:44.43 | infotron | yes, but that network could be /16 or longer |
| 05:45.05 | infotron | assuming it's a soho router, they usually adopt /24 only. |
| 05:45.17 | findlay | 192.168 space is upto /16, right? |
| 05:45.24 | Mellence | the unfortunate part is, well, i'm only a teenager who's been half using linux(not much command line) for a couple of years |
| 05:45.33 | Mellence | i've never actually set up the network on mine |
| 05:45.39 | findlay | nothing unfortunate about that |
| 05:45.46 | infotron | so you don't know what the router ip is? |
| 05:46.02 | Mellence | i know the external ip, well, i can find it out in a few minutes |
| 05:46.07 | findlay | usually 192.168.0.1 or simmilar |
| 05:46.09 | infotron | you need the internal ip |
| 05:46.18 | Mellence | the internal is 192.168.1.1 |
| 05:46.23 | infotron | what ip assigned you the dhcp address? I bet it's the same device. |
| 05:46.25 | infotron | ahh. |
| 05:46.50 | infotron | route add default gw 192.168.1.1 - assuming your eth0 is using 192.168.1.something |
| 05:47.07 | Mellence | the only unfortunate part about what i said earlier is the never actually setting up the network on my computer |
| 05:47.39 | Mellence | i tried adding the route, and got the error message "SIOCADDRT: No such process" |
| 05:47.51 | infotron | run route -n, does it show up? |
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| 05:48.45 | Mellence | nothing shows up |
| 05:49.37 | Mellence | aside from the normal localhost |
| 05:49.37 | infotron | run ip -f inet addr. you'll see inet <something>/nn. what's that say? |
| 05:50.45 | Mellence | i assume you would want the "192.168.1.99/32" |
| 05:51.11 | infotron | yeah. it looks like your netmask was set to 255.255.255.255 and it should be 255.255.255.0 |
| 05:51.16 | Mellence | it will recognize the fact i have an ip address, it just isn't going through a network |
| 05:52.12 | Mellence | you fixed it |
| 05:52.48 | Mellence | one three digit number screwed up everything |
| 05:53.01 | infotron | one typo can ruin an entire day. |
| 05:53.17 | Mellence | yes |
| 05:53.42 | infotron | do you get how the netmask plays into the networking picture? |
| 05:53.57 | Mellence | well, i don't know much about networking, so, no |
| 05:54.11 | infotron | if it's w/in the subnet, you can most always direct traffic to that address w/o a router involved. |
| 05:54.33 | infotron | your subnet mask was so restrictive, everything was outside your local network. even the router. |
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| 05:55.50 | Mellence | my little understanding of networking can look at 255.255.255.255 and understand why |
| 05:55.53 | infotron | if it's outside the a local subnet, then you can lookup a gateway to deliver it to. (eg, get it one hope closer to the final destination) |
| 05:56.04 | infotron | s/hope/hop/ |
| 05:59.31 | Sargun | huh |
| 05:59.39 | Sargun | use dhcp |
| 06:00.13 | infotron | Sargun: /lastlog dhcp |
| 06:01.44 | findlay | ~dhcp Sargun |
| 06:02.16 | infotron | ~rlart |
| 06:02.16 | ibot | shoots beast in his sleep |
| 06:09.22 | Mellence | has anyone looked into http://www.livewires.org.uk |
| 06:11.03 | Mellence | more specifically http://www.livewires.org.uk/python/home |
| 06:11.51 | Mellence | it's a python course at a summer camp aimed at 12-15 year olds |
| 06:12.50 | infotron | so ibot could attend? |
| 06:13.21 | Mellence | of course |
| 06:13.30 | Mellence | it makes me want to be british |
| 06:14.21 | infotron | right oh |
| 06:19.29 | Mellence | well, i'm off, gonna squeeze in a few minutes of "The cuckoo's egg" before sleeping |
| 06:19.45 | infotron | ight |
| 06:19.48 | infotron | enjoy :) |
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| 06:34.08 | Sargun | weird |
| 06:38.24 | lakshmi | ~lart sargun |
| 06:38.24 | ibot | beats sargun severely about the head and shoulders with a rubber chicken |
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| 10:20.39 | keldwud | hmmm |
| 10:20.50 | keldwud | command to list processes from bash plz? |
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| 12:28.33 | TerraSin | OMGHI2UUTAH!!!!! _o/ |
| 12:29.01 | M1dorikawa|Psych | rolls his eyes at TerraSin |
| 12:38.09 | goozbach | keldwud: MAN PS |
| 12:41.07 | keldwud | ahh ps. thank you :) |
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| 13:56.13 | Sargun_screen | What's the easiest way to make your kernl panic? |
| 13:57.16 | M1dorikawa|Psych | Sargun_screen, scare it real good. |
| 13:57.30 | Sargun_screen | That's not funny. |
| 13:57.35 | M1dorikawa|Psych | I thought it was. |
| 13:57.36 | M1dorikawa|Psych | :-P |
| 13:58.05 | M1dorikawa|Psych | rename devices in /etc/fstab. |
| 13:58.18 | M1dorikawa|Psych | or mount a file system to /mnt |
| 13:58.22 | M1dorikawa|Psych | that causes all sorts of fun |
| 14:02.54 | M1dorikawa|Psych | ...or as an easier alternative...give me root access to the box for 5 minutes. >:-D |
| 14:11.42 | goozbach | mounting to /mnt causes panic? |
| 14:12.18 | goozbach | Sargun_screen: look into sysreq keys |
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| 14:13.24 | Sargun_screen | I don't have hard access to the system. |
| 14:13.39 | Sargun_screen | Needs to be done over SSH |
| 14:15.35 | Sargun_screen | I need to update to 2.6.26 |
| 14:15.44 | Sargun_screen | When are they doing to stabilize though :-( |
| 14:18.27 | Sargun_screen | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:18.27 | Sargun_screen | 40 module_param(nowayout, int, 0); |
| 14:18.27 | Sargun_screen | 41 MODULE_PARM_DESC(nowayout, "Watchdog cannot be stopped once started (default=" __MODULE_STRING(WATCHDOG_NOWAYOUT) ")"); |
| 14:18.30 | Sargun_screen | 42 |
| 14:18.33 | Sargun_screen | heh. |
| 14:20.22 | goozbach | Sargun_screen: that's a bad idea if you don't have panic=NNN in the boot option of this boot |
| 14:20.36 | goozbach | because a kernel panic, by default just locks |
| 14:20.55 | Sargun_screen | yeah. |
| 14:21.02 | goozbach | you'll need a remote hand event anyhow |
| 14:21.04 | Sargun_screen | I'm seeing panic in /proc/kernel/panic |
| 14:21.14 | Sargun_screen | This is in China |
| 14:21.19 | Sargun_screen | A) Huge language barrier |
| 14:21.25 | Sargun_screen | B) No one there is competent |
| 14:21.27 | goozbach | and you can't run init 6? |
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| 14:22.15 | Sargun_screen | They are fscking up the box I put there |
| 14:22.15 | Sargun_screen | I Don't ask me what they're doing |
| 14:22.20 | Sargun_screen | but its causing the kernel to panic (I think) |
| 14:22.29 | goozbach | hmm |
| 14:22.35 | Sargun_screen | This is like debugging something on the moon. |
| 14:22.44 | Sargun_screen | No, nevermind, that would be easier. |
| 14:23.03 | Sargun_screen | Why does China hve cheap l, smart people? |
| 14:23.03 | Sargun_screen | Not India, or sou |
| 14:23.10 | Sargun_screen | th Korea? |
| 14:23.24 | Sargun_screen | Or even Canada |
| 14:23.38 | Sargun_screen | Anyways, I need to update this kernel (blind) |
| 14:23.50 | Sargun_screen | which should be fun. |
| 14:23.58 | Sargun_screen | I have one shot at this or I just piss a bunch of people off |
| 14:24.11 | Sargun_screen | any suggestions? |
| 14:24.56 | Sargun_screen | No, installing RH isn';t an option |
| 14:25.01 | Sargun_screen | RHEL. |
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| 14:39.55 | Sargun_screen | Does anyone know of any embedded switches? |
| 14:42.46 | tristanbob | Sargun_screen, embedded in what? |
| 14:42.54 | tristanbob | like a 4-port NIC? |
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| 14:53.07 | bonez44 | curious..how popular is ubuntu? I have been running Debian several years...curious whether I should give ubuntu a try |
| 14:54.13 | ^Migs^ | it's probably the most trendy right now, at least |
| 14:54.24 | ^Migs^ | certainly extremely popular. Why does that matter, though? |
| 14:56.15 | bonez44 | well, I have a PC here at home, that I built for my boys.. it has VIA chrome S3 on the motherboard for video...and debian.. loads but it's just a DAWGGGGG...very slow.. |
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| 14:56.17 | unum | bonez44: most long time debian users prefer debian to ubuntu |
| 14:56.29 | bonez44 | wondering if I install ubuntu on it..would that speed it up....run faster |
| 14:56.31 | unum | but xmission moved all their debian stuff to ubntu |
| 14:56.51 | unum | I would say debian can be faster than ubuntu |
| 14:56.59 | unum | debian doesn't install gnome |
| 14:57.14 | bonez44 | but debian wont' install any native video drivers....for this video on my motherboard.. |
| 14:57.22 | unum | ah, ubuntu is nice that way |
| 14:57.46 | goozbach | ibuprofen. I need ibuprofen |
| 14:58.16 | bonez44 | goozbach: why ibuprofen? just eats holes in your stomach..... better to remove the problem at the source... |
| 14:59.28 | goozbach | bonez44: cause my entire body aches |
| 14:59.37 | goozbach | muscle pains |
| 14:59.59 | goozbach | I played dodgeball last night for a good hour, and I'm sore |
| 15:00.24 | bonez44 | are you well hydrated? |
| 15:00.35 | bonez44 | need lots more water after that sort of activity |
| 15:00.53 | goozbach | I've drank like two gallons of water since last night |
| 15:01.03 | bonez44 | that's good.... |
| 15:01.16 | bonez44 | pineapple juice is great for muscle cramping and soreness... |
| 15:01.37 | bonez44 | but you need to drink it.. the pure, expensive...not sugared or watered down stuff.... before the activity |
| 15:02.00 | bonez44 | it contains a natural chemical called bromelain.. acts as a muscle relaxer.....and antiinflammatory |
| 15:02.22 | C4N | goozbach: do you drink water regularly? |
| 15:03.33 | goozbach | C4N: about 10-15 10oz glasses |
| 15:03.36 | goozbach | daily |
| 15:03.47 | Sargun_screen | tristanbob: like a nic i could put on a pcb |
| 15:03.56 | goozbach | I *LOVE* pineapple! |
| 15:03.56 | Sargun_screen | er, switch |
| 15:04.02 | unum | only stocks pain killers for when women come over |
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| 15:04.19 | unum | they're always asking for ibuprofin it doesn't seem to do me any good |
| 15:04.23 | Sargun_screen | I found one by atheros but they only sell in large quantities |
| 15:04.55 | unum | btw sco owes novell 2 million |
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| 15:08.14 | HCDemon | hey ^Migs^ |
| 15:09.05 | Sargun_screen | btw novell owes me... a sanity for dealing with netware |
| 15:09.10 | ^Migs^ | hey HCDemon |
| 15:09.36 | HCDemon | <-- ECRS401 |
| 15:09.39 | Sargun_screen | and 2 years of my life experimenting with SuSe |
| 15:09.45 | HCDemon | sorry forgot i changed nicks |
| 15:09.59 | Sargun_screen | you're an ECRS401? |
| 15:10.22 | HCDemon | used to be |
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| 15:12.23 | Sargun_screen | does that mean you had a 401 MHZz processorx? |
| 15:12.54 | Sargun_screen | :-P |
| 15:16.13 | keldwud | quick, what should I genocide? ; or h |
| 15:17.06 | tensai | fresh basil, fresh garlic. my house smells wonderful. |
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| 15:18.06 | Jayce^ | tensai, from the garden? |
| 15:18.40 | tensai | Jayce^: yup |
| 15:19.04 | HCDemon | Sargun_screen, no, ecrs = east chatham rescue squad, 401 = my old badge # |
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| 15:22.40 | Jayce^ | tensai, our basil is doing pretty good now, had a late start... Garlic is doing great |
| 15:23.20 | tensai | garlic is the easiest thing to grow ever |
| 15:23.35 | tensai | and what a ROI |
| 15:23.42 | levi | tensai: I dunno, squash is pretty easy to grow. |
| 15:24.32 | Jayce^ | tensai, agreed, amazed at how easy |
| 15:24.37 | tensai | once it gets started, yeah squash will take over the garden without batting an eye |
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| 15:25.06 | levi | It's not even hard to get started. Just lightly bury it and apply water occasionally. |
| 15:25.17 | Jayce^ | amazingly, all my zucchini died.. I must be talented :) |
| 15:25.20 | tensai | I had trouble coaxing mine after I transplanted it. and last year we got only a single female blossom, which didn't get pollinated. |
| 15:25.39 | Jayce^ | our other squash is going well though |
| 15:26.10 | Jayce^ | tried collard greens for the first time this year, they've gone nuts |
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| 15:32.23 | levi | We started all our squash straight in the garden. |
| 15:33.10 | levi | Actually, there are a couple my wife bought from a nursery that are doing good, too. |
| 15:33.24 | levi | Our peas are thriving, too, but we should have planted more. |
| 15:33.27 | elg | hopes his garden is still alive |
| 15:33.56 | levi | Had a sandwich with home-grown spinach and tomatoes the other day. Yum! |
| 15:34.16 | levi | The tomatoes were from a patio tomato plant that bolted and died, though. |
| 15:34.27 | levi | Same thing happened to my pepper plants. |
| 15:34.33 | levi | (bell peppers) |
| 15:34.43 | tensai | my peppers just haven't grown at all this year |
| 15:36.36 | levi | We've got a whole bunch of other tomato plants, and they're thriving, but only one has a single green fruit on it so far. |
| 15:37.01 | levi | Most of our basil died, but there's one healthy plant left. |
| 15:37.24 | levi | Our broccoli gave us a bit to eat, but isn't looking so hot now. |
| 15:37.32 | levi | Cilantro is thriving. |
| 15:37.48 | goozbach | we've got more tomatoes than we know what to do with |
| 15:38.01 | goozbach | best part is, our garden is only 25ft squared |
| 15:38.03 | levi | goozbach: Make salsa! Make marinara! |
| 15:38.27 | Tene | http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/07/unbreakable-fig.html |
| 15:38.40 | levi | We're going to have more straight-neck yellow squash than we know what to do with really soon. :) |
| 15:38.42 | goozbach | oh we plan on it |
| 15:38.52 | levi | And then we're going to have a whole pile of acorn squash. |
| 15:38.53 | goozbach | bread it, fry it, bake it |
| 15:39.15 | levi | I think they're acorn, anyway. |
| 15:39.30 | levi | They came in an 'assorted squash' seed pack. |
| 15:41.11 | levi | Our carrots never sprouted. :( |
| 15:42.30 | Tene | make carrots out of squash. |
| 15:45.52 | levi | Well, they *are* kind of similar in shape and color.... |
| 15:46.00 | Jayce^ | our peas died in the late frost :( |
| 15:46.08 | fozzmoo | Our garden is going gangbusters. |
| 15:46.16 | levi | That's one advantage of starting late. :) |
| 15:46.20 | fozzmoo | Tomato plants are over 5 and a half feet tall |
| 15:46.29 | Jayce^ | tomatos are going crazy, peppers too |
| 15:46.39 | Jayce^ | rhubarb is too, as always |
| 15:46.44 | levi | fozzmoo: Yow. How'd you manage that? |
| 15:46.45 | fozzmoo | My peppers were going real slow... but took off about a week ago. |
| 15:46.56 | fozzmoo | levi: I'm not sure! |
| 15:47.05 | fozzmoo | Someone told me you have to stress your tomatoes |
| 15:47.21 | fozzmoo | I didn't intend to.. but may have done inadvertently. |
| 15:47.46 | fozzmoo | We did put down black plastic around our tomato plants. Maybe that has done something- like warmed the dirt or something. |
| 15:47.58 | fozzmoo | But yeah- they're goin nuts. |
| 15:48.07 | levi | Yeah, that would definitely warm the dirt and help retain moisture. |
| 15:48.16 | Tene | http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad?id=CJzgrrH3oMihKhDYBRhPMgjwH9JHI_YScw -- A banner ad I saw just now. |
| 15:48.28 | fozzmoo | I made big cages out of concrete reinforcing mesh... |
| 15:48.32 | fozzmoo | and they're busting outof those. |
| 15:48.46 | fozzmoo | It's a horror movie in the making. |
| 15:48.49 | keldwud | anybody going to the expo? |
| 15:49.00 | levi | What expo? |
| 15:49.25 | Jayce^ | yeah, my cages are totally insufficient now |
| 15:49.30 | tensai | Jayce^: peas are supposed to be frost hardy. how did you manage that? |
| 15:50.16 | elg | ~lart Tene |
| 15:50.16 | ibot | DoSes Tene |
| 15:50.19 | elg | ~lart tensai |
| 15:50.19 | ibot | hurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at tensai |
| 15:50.24 | Jayce^ | tensai, *shrug* that was my thought too, we had tried hard to be gentle in migrating outdoor too, but a week after the move there was that late frost, and they went |
| 15:51.12 | levi | http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/linuxaudio.png |
| 15:51.51 | tensai | our peas were pathetic last year but are doing great now |
| 15:52.15 | tensai | I'm not really into peas but these ones from the garden I can handle. the taste is quite a bit different from frozen. |
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| 15:53.02 | levi | Geez, some people here have some questionable ringtones. I often hear the Benny Hill theme at high volume, and I just heard the piano bit from Pride and Prejudice (the BBC miniseries). |
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| 15:56.54 | levi | We've also got some sort of a melon that's taking over its general vicinity. |
| 15:59.28 | Tene | I've never understood the "playing music" ringtones. |
| 15:59.37 | sontek | My ringtone is the caramel commercial song |
| 15:59.57 | sontek | and when I get text messages it says "Mail mothaf**" from euro trip :P |
| 16:00.09 | Tene | I like fozz's ringtone. |
| 16:00.34 | sontek | whats his? |
| 16:01.32 | Tene | it's fozz shouting "RING RING" |
| 16:01.47 | sontek | rofl |
| 16:01.49 | Tene | Or at least it was the last time I heard it. |
| 16:02.04 | findlay | haha |
| 16:02.17 | fozzmoo | Yeah. I still have that one for my "unknown caller" |
| 16:02.27 | fozzmoo | That was kind of an accidental thing too. |
| 16:02.31 | findlay | when I get a phone the ringer will be a perfect sine wave |
| 16:02.47 | findlay | and the message will be a square wave |
| 16:03.49 | fozzmoo | When I got my Treo 700, I was playign with the voice memo application... and noticed you could save your memos as ringtones... so I just kind of flippantly recorded myself saying "Ring ring" in a gravelly voice. |
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| 16:03.57 | findlay | and when Tene calls it will be a triangular wave |
| 16:04.18 | fozzmoo | I want a hexagonal wave! |
| 16:04.23 | maquis | dates should not be printed in scientific notation |
| 16:04.23 | findlay | ok |
| 16:04.34 | fozzmoo | maquis: But, the scientists! |
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| 16:04.41 | maquis | fozzmoo: i don't care |
| 16:04.48 | maquis | 1.216529925E9 is *not* a date |
| 16:04.57 | Tene | What is it, then? |
| 16:05.01 | findlay | seems like a date to me |
| 16:05.02 | fozzmoo | Is that AD or BC? |
| 16:05.14 | findlay | but at this point I'll pretty much accept any date I can get |
| 16:05.19 | fozzmoo | snickers |
| 16:05.22 | Tene | Are you tryin to say that your scientist boyfriend isn't taking you out to nice enough places? |
| 16:05.49 | Tene | findlay: I'm going to a concert on saturday night. Do you want to come with me? |
| 16:06.00 | keldwud | the game expo |
| 16:06.01 | fozzmoo | Oooh. what concert? |
| 16:06.07 | fozzmoo | keldwud: GEEX? |
| 16:06.09 | findlay | Tene: where? |
| 16:06.17 | keldwud | http://www.geexshow.com/index.php |
| 16:06.17 | keldwud | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.19 | brac | [GEEX - Gaming and Electronics Expo 2008] |
| 16:06.21 | Tene | Floggin Molly |
| 16:06.32 | keldwud | I didn't find out about it until today |
| 16:06.35 | Tene | at Saltaire |
| 16:06.41 | fozzmoo | I've seen the billboards. |
| 16:06.42 | findlay | I'll probably have homework or something to do on Saturday |
| 16:06.43 | Tene | Hm, I'm dropping 'g's. |
| 16:06.45 | keldwud | oh that would be a fun bike ride |
| 16:06.46 | fozzmoo | (For Geex) |
| 16:07.05 | fozzmoo | keldwud: Teeth full of gnats. :) |
| 16:07.10 | fozzmoo | Oooh. good band name. |
| 16:07.29 | findlay | -band name |
| 16:07.45 | fozzmoo | ~smack brac |
| 16:07.46 | ibot | ACTION smacks brac upside the head. |
| 16:08.12 | goozbach | airfare is soo expensive |
| 16:08.23 | fozzmoo | Yup |
| 16:08.35 | fozzmoo | Because the oil companies are using the airlines to subsidize your gasoline. |
| 16:08.53 | fozzmoo | Jet A Fuel has gone up a LOT more than gasoline as a result. |
| 16:08.59 | findlay | Tene: I might if I were more culturally inclined at the moment, but I've got lots of schoolwork to get done by the end of the month |
| 16:09.30 | fozzmoo | findlay: When will you be finished with your bachelor ? |
| 16:09.44 | keldwud | hehe that sounds almost.. wrong ;) |
| 16:09.50 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 16:09.54 | goozbach | flogging molly is awesome |
| 16:09.59 | goozbach | great band |
| 16:10.05 | fozzmoo | THAT sounds almost wrong too. |
| 16:10.10 | findlay | fozzmoo: 2 years |
| 16:10.24 | fozzmoo | I can't wait to see Teeth Full Of Gnats. |
| 16:10.29 | fozzmoo | hee hee. |
| 16:11.03 | findlay | fozzmoo: or 6.31152E7 |
| 16:11.05 | fozzmoo | "The surviving members of Alice In Chains are back as Teeth Full Of Gnats." |
| 16:11.17 | fozzmoo | It'd be perfect. |
| 16:11.33 | goozbach | buggy headlamp |
| 16:11.40 | findlay | heh |
| 16:11.42 | goozbach | they open for TFoG |
| 16:11.51 | unum | anyone know any linux users at slcc? |
| 16:12.02 | fozzmoo | Uhm.. David Moss? :) |
| 16:12.06 | Sargun | XP is crack, Vista is jolly ranchers |
| 16:12.42 | findlay | sinuhe |
| 16:13.13 | fozzmoo | FEI: Tonight is the Glenn Beck stage show movie theater simulcast. |
| 16:13.26 | fozzmoo | cheers |
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| 16:14.39 | Tene | findlay: You said you'd accept any date you can get! You lied to me! |
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| 16:26.05 | ^Migs^ | Sargun: I'm not sure which is worse. |
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| 16:38.17 | HCDemon | i hate job hunting |
| 16:55.22 | fozzmoo | Okay, folks, I have ONE last ticket (I bought 5) to this Glenn Beck show tonight that needs a person to hold it. |
| 16:55.44 | fozzmoo | I've been told all the theaters in Utah that are showing it are sold out. |
| 16:56.36 | fozzmoo | We're going to the theaters at Jordan Landing in West Jordan. |
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| 16:59.52 | Sargun | My coworkers are stupid. |
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| 17:19.36 | eggyknap | HCDemon: looking for anything special? |
| 17:19.42 | eggyknap | is looking for a finder's fee :) |
| 17:22.47 | Tene | fozzmoo: you could give it to me. |
| 17:22.57 | Tene | HCDemon: are you interested in teaching? |
| 17:23.21 | fozzmoo | You in town? |
| 17:23.25 | mrpull | eggyknap: what are you seeking? |
| 17:23.40 | Tene | fozzmoo: I'm in A town. |
| 17:23.49 | Tene | In Texas! |
| 17:24.06 | eggyknap | The official job title I'm most closely interested in is "Configuration Manager", which really means doing occasional builds, initial troubleshooting afterwards, and making sure servers run decently. |
| 17:24.08 | fozzmoo | Oh. Youcould go to the actual show. It's being broadcast from Dallas. |
| 17:24.32 | Tene | I'm in Dallas. |
| 17:24.38 | fozzmoo | Well there you go. :) |
| 17:24.45 | fozzmoo | I'm jealous. |
| 17:24.52 | fozzmoo | I'm sure the live stage show is sold out. |
| 17:25.01 | fozzmoo | But it would be cool to be there... feel the electricity in the air... |
| 17:25.08 | Tene | Are you saying Glenn Beck is a sell-out? |
| 17:25.16 | mrpull | eggyknap: link? |
| 17:25.28 | eggyknap | mrpull: lemme see if there's a relatively updated link somewhere :) |
| 17:25.46 | eggyknap | alternatively, if you're interested, I'll email you something, if you're willing to share an email. But lemme look for desc's first. |
| 17:26.07 | sjansen | ~reward Tene |
| 17:26.08 | ibot | ACTION gives Tene a brownie point. And a *kick* in the pants! |
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| 17:33.28 | HCDemon | Tene, what kind of teaching? |
| 17:33.44 | Tene | HCDemon: linux sysadmin training and certification. |
| 17:33.48 | HCDemon | im thinking we may have spoke before about it, if its what im thinking of |
| 17:33.54 | HCDemon | yea, it is, lol |
| 17:34.29 | Tene | So does that mean you're going to send in a resume? |
| 17:34.44 | HCDemon | i have the social anxiety remember |
| 17:34.59 | sinuhe | HCDemon: What a good way to get over that! |
| 17:35.30 | Tene | I was horrible socially before I started teaching! |
| 17:35.38 | Tene | I'm doing great now. |
| 17:35.39 | HCDemon | sinuhe, ive tried for years, couldnt do it during the 8 years on the rescue squad infront of very close peers |
| 17:35.41 | sinuhe | Tene: I met one of your first students. |
| 17:36.55 | sinuhe | HCDemon: It becomes second nature after doing it awhile. Thankfully, I'd been giving presentations before I ever got the job. |
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| 17:43.16 | HCDemon | besides im not proficient enough for sysadmin training |
| 17:43.48 | HCDemon | eggyknap, only things i have that are valid in UT is my A+ cert and my security license |
| 17:46.47 | sinuhe | I got an A+ once. 1996 or 7 I believe. It required Mac knowledge back then. |
| 17:47.56 | HCDemon | yea, there is still some mac questions on the tests, but nothing in the class, but then again my "class" was a 1 week "refresher" then the test |
| 17:48.28 | sinuhe | Huh. I never took a class. |
| 17:48.41 | HCDemon | technically neither did i |
| 17:48.54 | HCDemon | it was all stuff i knew anyway, i sat there and played flash games |
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| 18:08.46 | unum | I called asus and they are going to rma my eeepc |
| 18:08.52 | levi | Cool. |
| 18:09.01 | unum | I would have liked to play with it more before having to send it back |
| 18:09.09 | levi | Are they going to upgrade it to a real laptop? |
| 18:09.24 | unum | but I'm pretty convinced that it's a hardware issue |
| 18:09.27 | unum | levi: I hope not |
| 18:09.32 | unum | what would I do with a real laptop |
| 18:09.59 | levi | The same things you do with the eee, but faster! And in a more manly manner! |
| 18:10.38 | Jayce^ | is levi going to start singing Captain Hammer's song from Act I of dr horrible now? |
| 18:10.57 | levi | I haven't watched Dr. Horrible yet. |
| 18:11.08 | Jayce^ | you should, act II came out today |
| 18:11.16 | Jayce^ | it's only up for a week, then you have to pay to watch |
| 18:11.42 | Tene | How many ghz do you really need to chat on IRC, levi? |
| 18:13.57 | levi | Tene: Well, technically it doesn't require very many. But it takes a lot to maintain your geek cred and manliness! :P |
| 18:14.27 | Tene | Nah, you get *real* geek cred from how *few* you can do it on. |
| 18:14.29 | HCDemon | lol |
| 18:14.54 | levi | I don't see *you* IRCing from a C64. :P |
| 18:15.00 | findlay | Tene: I'm not really interested in concerts at saltair :/ |
| 18:15.09 | Tene | You also don't see me claiming to have geek cred. |
| 18:15.21 | Tene | findlay: YOU SAID YOU WOULD GO ON A DATE WITH ME DONT BACK DOWN NOW |
| 18:15.28 | findlay | haha |
| 18:15.41 | levi | findlay and Tene, sitting in a tree... |
| 18:17.31 | mrpull | heh... i was unaware of dr. horrible. |
| 18:17.37 | mrpull | silly fun |
| 18:17.50 | findlay | ~levi Tene |
| 18:17.51 | ibot | ACTION gives Tene a hovercraft and then fills it with eels! |
| 18:20.06 | Tene | No, my hovercraft! |
| 18:20.16 | Tene | OUR DATE IS OFF! |
| 18:20.20 | Tene | ~hate findlay |
| 18:20.21 | ibot | Hey tene, ,,|, |
| 18:21.37 | findlay | you see how problematic it is? |
| 18:23.13 | Tene | Haha, I love this part. |
| 18:23.14 | Tene | I set up an absurdly sabotaged system for the troubleshooting lab as a challenge if anyone ran out of other problems. |
| 18:23.17 | Tene | The challenge is "Boot this system and log in as the 'student' user." |
| 18:24.14 | Tene | He's been at it for 15 minutes so far. |
| 18:24.18 | Tene | Very entertaining. |
| 18:26.22 | findlay | what do you think about Linus saying that releases based on featuresets and version numbers are soo 2004? |
| 18:27.31 | sinuhe | findlay: What did he say that releases should be based on? |
| 18:27.49 | Tene | pie-based releases. |
| 18:28.39 | findlay | sinuhe: something about 'development stage for a couple of months then stabilization stage for a couple of weeks' rinse lather repeat |
| 18:29.08 | Tene | aka time-based |
| 18:29.11 | Tene | aka pie-based |
| 18:29.16 | Tene | presuming a constant rate of pie |
| 18:29.23 | levi | Mmm... pie. |
| 18:29.25 | findlay | Linux 2009!!1 |
| 18:29.30 | levi | I just ate pizza from the pie. |
| 18:29.43 | sinuhe | findlay: I can hear an OpenBSD developer saying that's so 1990s... |
| 18:29.43 | findlay | a lot of packages already use datestamp version numbers |
| 18:30.18 | findlay | I always thought that meant they weren't yet stable or feature complete enough for good old dot numbers |
| 18:30.49 | findlay | but I'm not a programmer, much less an OSS project guru, so what do I know about SW releases? |
| 18:31.03 | fungus | ~linus |
| 18:31.04 | ibot | it has been said that linus is a man with an amazing vocabulary, or said "the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys" |
| 18:31.55 | sinuhe | ibot could be right. |
| 18:31.58 | sinuhe | ~OpenBSD |
| 18:31.59 | ibot | OpenBSD - Proactively Secure Multiplatform OS. URL: http://www.openbsd.org/ |
| 18:32.05 | brac | [OpenBSD] |
| 18:32.12 | findlay | haha, nice advertisement |
| 18:32.23 | findlay | ~Linux |
| 18:32.24 | ibot | it has been said that linux is the cure for cancer, AIDS and slavery to corporations |
| 18:32.41 | findlay | suitably hippy rejoinder |
| 18:32.48 | ^Migs^ | ~berners-lee |
| 18:32.54 | ^Migs^ | ~migs |
| 18:33.00 | ^Migs^ | ~bsd |
| 18:33.01 | ibot | BSD is a UNIX operating system. An asterisk port is currently availible if you feel you must, or a way to set your pc back 30 years, progress is overrated |
| 18:33.28 | ^Migs^ | ~windows |
| 18:33.29 | ibot | well, windows is a 32 bit hack on a 16 bit operating system, originally designed for an 8 bit CPU, with a 4 bit system bus, made by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition... or the World of Warcraft bootloader, or the most important collection of bugs, or bloatware, or an operating system |
| 18:33.29 | sinuhe | Why fix what works? :-) |
| 18:34.14 | findlay | sinuhe: tell that to levi |
| 18:34.26 | findlay | so we can enjoy a good debate :) |
| 18:34.47 | Tene | findlay: parrot releases every month, but only increments version numbers according a planned feature-based roadmap. |
| 18:34.57 | Tene | I quite like that scheme. |
| 18:37.35 | levi | This Dr. Horrible thing is surprisingly good. |
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| 18:44.15 | Mellence | any way to download Dr. Horrible aside from itunes? |
| 18:45.11 | levi | You can watch it online at drhorrible.com |
| 18:45.26 | Mellence | i would rather download it |
| 18:45.48 | Mellence | i'm watching it right now |
| 18:45.50 | Mellence | but i want a copy |
| 18:46.07 | Tene | How is it getting from the intertubes to your monitor without being downloaded? |
| 18:46.17 | Mellence | ok, i want a copy on my hard drive |
| 18:46.23 | Mellence | there, i worded it correctly |
| 18:46.35 | Mellence | i failed a term of english, give me a break... |
| 18:47.04 | Tene | I wasn't trying to challenge you, I was trying to hint at a possible solution. |
| 18:47.15 | Mellence | i know |
| 18:47.31 | goozbach | it's on hulu |
| 18:47.46 | goozbach | I would start by googleing "hulu video downloader" |
| 18:49.38 | findlay | ~livehttpheaders++ |
| 18:49.45 | findlay | but it doesn't work on ff3 :( |
| 18:52.06 | Mellence | it works for me |
| 18:55.03 | findlay | nice |
| 18:55.45 | Tene | findlay: what's wrong with wireshark? |
| 18:57.11 | findlay | Tene: I use libpcap |
| 19:02.32 | Mellence | wow, I didn't think Dr. Horrible would be that good, but it was quite funny |
| 19:02.46 | Tene | What is it? |
| 19:03.42 | Mellence | a video at http://drhorrible.com |
| 19:03.45 | brac | [Dr. Horrible] |
| 19:03.59 | Mellence | it's a musical |
| 19:04.04 | fozzmoo | Of course it's great. It comes from Whedon! |
| 19:04.26 | Mellence | that's true |
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| 19:06.27 | levi | Huh, these freeze-dried potato crisps aren't bad. |
| 19:08.11 | Jayce^ | whedon + Fillon == good |
| 19:09.04 | findlay | and a bag of freeze-dried potatoe crisps |
| 19:09.16 | findlay | s/e//g |
| 19:09.25 | nick125 | fail. |
| 19:09.58 | levi | A bag of freeze-dried fail! |
| 19:10.19 | findlay | EPIC FREEZE_DRIED! |
| 19:17.49 | bugQ | wow, thanks for that, Mellence |
| 19:23.28 | bugQ | think I needs me a frz ray. |
| 19:23.45 | bugQ | uh, think I nds m a frz ray. |
| 19:26.08 | Jayce^ | smells like Cumin.. |
| 19:26.38 | findlay | ~port 135 |
| 19:26.39 | ibot | somebody said port 135 was epmap - DCE endpoint resolution |
| 19:37.49 | Mellence | has anyone read http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html ? |
| 19:39.05 | bugQ | come join me, you dirty tiger, it's mac & cheese day at the cafeteria of knowledge! |
| 19:40.19 | bugQ | No, I haven't, but I particularly resonate with "boredom and drudgery are evil." |
| 19:40.30 | Mellence | it's true |
| 19:42.17 | Sargun | What do you guys think about the .me TLD? |
| 19:42.28 | bugQ | is that like .name? |
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| 19:42.52 | Sargun | yeah |
| 19:42.56 | Sargun | Someone should buy .mom |
| 19:42.59 | Sargun | your.mom |
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| 19:43.56 | Sargun | you.love.me |
| 19:45.02 | bugQ | ah, montenegro |
| 19:45.14 | fozzmoo | screw.me |
| 19:45.22 | fozzmoo | poor.me |
| 19:45.28 | findlay | ostensib.ly |
| 19:45.29 | Sargun | fozzmoo, F*.me has been taken |
| 19:45.43 | findlay | the adverb domain |
| 19:45.55 | fozzmoo | How about .them ? |
| 19:46.03 | Sargun | how about .yu |
| 19:46.05 | Sargun | or .you |
| 19:46.08 | fozzmoo | Or .u |
| 19:46.14 | Sargun | .nano? |
| 19:46.35 | goozbach | .iam |
| 19:46.44 | Sargun | sam.iam |
| 19:46.45 | findlay | tlds are an artificial scarcity |
| 19:46.49 | goozbach | o.wha.ta.goo.se.aim |
| 19:46.55 | unum | do we have details on the sailing of tlds? |
| 19:47.06 | findlay | sailing sounds fun |
| 19:47.10 | unum | doh |
| 19:47.13 | unum | selling |
| 19:47.22 | unum | but sailing does sound fun now that I mention it |
| 19:47.24 | fozzmoo | .sail |
| 19:47.25 | Sargun | unum, <Reporter voice>Bringing you LIVE to TLD sales!</ |
| 19:47.47 | findlay | .Sargun |
| 19:48.09 | fozzmoo | recalls the SLN sketch of the bank that waited until all the good domain names were taken and ended up with clownpenis.fart |
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| 19:49.03 | goozbach | fozzmoo: "I'm having an affair..." |
| 19:49.14 | goozbach | "with this jar of peanut butter" |
| 19:50.13 | fozzmoo | goozbach: Forgive me, but what are you quoting? |
| 19:51.53 | goozbach | derrick, mad hatter |
| 19:52.21 | levi | "these aren't the hammer" |
| 19:52.52 | fozzmoo | hee hee. |
| 19:54.10 | levi | And then he feels compelled to come back and explain it. |
| 19:57.31 | bugQ | http://www.enic.cc/ where's creative commons? |
| 19:57.33 | brac | [.CC] |
| 19:57.48 | goozbach | I was watching that moment just as you mentioned it, levi |
| 19:57.51 | goozbach | how apropos |
| 20:06.56 | Jayce^ | loved the line |
| 20:08.17 | sjansen | hulu.com++ |
| 20:08.54 | sjansen | Who would've thought a bunch of media producers banding together to defeat YouTube could actually come up with something good? |
| 20:17.07 | Jayce^ | sjansen, I'm supposed to call you stupid |
| 20:17.15 | Sargun | emerge -pvGuD world |
| 20:17.16 | Jayce^ | oh wait, that's only after you reject fozzmoo's invitation |
| 20:17.18 | Sargun | I love Gentoo. |
| 20:17.47 | findlay | no you don't |
| 20:17.49 | findlay | I do |
| 20:17.50 | Sargun | findlay, Shutup. |
| 20:17.52 | Sargun | Die. |
| 20:17.58 | findlay | ~steal Sargun's gentoo |
| 20:17.59 | ibot | ACTION grabs Sargun's gentoo and gives it to findlay |
| 20:17.59 | Mellence | I love Slackware |
| 20:18.06 | Sargun | Mellence, You're weird. |
| 20:18.07 | fozzmoo | I'm glad somebody does. |
| 20:18.21 | Mellence | Not only I, but my Dad, and my Brother too |
| 20:19.23 | sjansen | Jayce^: Really? Is it because I said mean things about Nancy Grace? |
| 20:21.39 | Mellence | Why does everyone hate Slackware? |
| 20:22.27 | fozzmoo | I loved Slackware. |
| 20:22.29 | JoshH | i don't |
| 20:22.29 | fozzmoo | ... in 1993. |
| 20:22.43 | JoshH | i only hate gentoo and suse |
| 20:23.05 | Mellence | I also hate Gentoo, and Suse, but I also hate Redhat. |
| 20:23.15 | JoshH | i dislike redhat, but don't hate it |
| 20:23.33 | findlay | ~flame rh |
| 20:23.33 | ibot | rh, YOU SUCK. And you know it. |
| 20:23.37 | findlay | ~flame susie |
| 20:23.37 | ibot | susie, YOU SUCK. And you know it. |
| 20:23.47 | findlay | that ought to get them going :) |
| 20:25.21 | Mellence | Does anyone like X-files? |
| 20:25.27 | Sargun | its ok |
| 20:25.30 | findlay | no |
| 20:25.50 | Mellence | I like it before Mulder got abducted. |
| 20:25.53 | levi | I haven't used Slackware since it came on floppy disks. |
| 20:26.08 | sjansen | Those who do not understand RH are doomed to reinvent it... poorly. |
| 20:26.41 | elg | anyone have an nvidia card (just about any flavor) and/or mythtv-compatible tuner they want to sell? |
| 20:26.56 | levi | elg: Having issues with your setup? |
| 20:27.02 | elg | no, this is for my parents |
| 20:27.14 | elg | they actually have one tuner already, and it's capturing fine now |
| 20:27.22 | elg | but they don't have a tv-out solution eyt |
| 20:29.13 | levi | Well, tv-out-capable nvidia cards are pretty cheap new. |
| 20:29.15 | mrpull | floppies? slackzip (or was it zipslack) was the way to go |
| 20:29.26 | mrpull | let's bring back the 100MB floppy |
| 20:30.44 | levi | I'm pretty sure Zip disks weren't around last time I used Slackware. |
| 20:31.04 | findlay | iomega tried to pwn the market and then it died out at the advent of the dirt cheap CDR |
| 20:31.18 | nick125 | still remembers 700MB ZIP disks |
| 20:32.05 | sjansen | Of course the "Click of Death" had nothing to do with their demise. |
| 20:32.22 | nick125 | They were like..$3-5 a piece when CD-RWs were...$0.50-$1.00 |
| 20:32.30 | mrpull | zip drives were introduced in '94, when was the genesis of Slackware? |
| 20:32.41 | levi | '93 |
| 20:32.44 | findlay | $3-5? I never saw them less than $10 |
| 20:33.12 | nick125 | findlay: Maybe I'm not remembering too clear then |
| 20:33.27 | findlay | or the last time I looked was longer ago :) |
| 20:33.39 | levi | Well, in any case, I didn't have a zip drive last time I used Slackware. |
| 20:34.15 | sjansen | wants to curl up and take a nap |
| 20:34.17 | tensai | zip drives were dang handy in the byu cs labs |
| 20:34.37 | findlay | now they use jumping drives |
| 20:34.37 | mrpull | i cant imagine booting and running an OS over an LPT port these days :) |
| 20:34.47 | tensai | ties sjansen in a pretzel |
| 20:35.03 | nick125 | Didn't Iomega go out of business a few years ago? |
| 20:35.11 | tensai | got bought out, I thought |
| 20:35.45 | nick125 | ah |
| 20:35.46 | nick125 | EMC |
| 20:35.58 | mrpull | nah, they still sell terrible storage and say it is better than real storage |
| 20:36.13 | sjansen | I heard the Church of Scientology acquired Iomega to lock in the Data Thetan market. |
| 20:36.24 | elg | levi: yeah, they are. but only online. i'm in town for a couple of days and if we can get one locally... |
| 20:36.59 | sjansen | elg: In town? |
| 20:37.13 | tensai | sjansen: it's the opposite of out of town |
| 20:37.15 | elg | where town == utah/slc valley |
| 20:37.37 | sjansen | And you didn't invite me to your pand for a wild all night party? |
| 20:37.43 | findlay | sjansen: do you realize they will force you to strike your comment from #utah with a toothpick? |
| 20:38.24 | nick125 | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16840161002 < HAHAH |
| 20:39.03 | tensai | a major problem with iomega drives was the lack of portability since not everybody had a drive. CDRs were nicely backward compatible and everybody had at least a CDROM. |
| 20:39.31 | findlay | nick125: notice how many reviews there are :) |
| 20:39.46 | nick125 | tensai: Or maybe the major part is that they tried charging $8 a disk when CDRs were...$0.50. |
| 20:40.01 | sjansen | findlay: Only if one of you sell me out. |
| 20:40.26 | tensai | nick125: well, that too. that's why I said "a major" |
| 20:40.53 | tensai | now A minor, otoh, is a wonderful key |
| 20:45.43 | sjansen | tensai: nick125 is right and you are wrong, accept it and move on |
| 20:46.06 | sjansen | Or I'll use alot alot just to bug you alot. |
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| 20:46.17 | findlay | ~alot |
| 20:46.17 | ibot | somebody said alot was raping the English language |
| 20:46.26 | tensai | ibot++ |
| 20:46.33 | tensai | ~factinfo alot |
| 20:46.33 | ibot | alot -- created by malte <malte@pC19EA109.dip.t-dialin.net> at Sun Oct 29 05:11:39 2000 (2818 days); it has been requested 10 times, last by findlay, 16s ago. |
| 20:46.43 | tensai | ~malte++ |
| 20:46.58 | findlay | ~seen malte |
| 20:47.01 | ibot | findlay: i haven't seen 'malte' |
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| 21:02.48 | mrpull | whoa. i didn't know opensolaris is going to include a CIFS server. |
| 21:04.45 | findlay | why not? |
| 21:08.42 | Jayce^ | some interesting lifeguarding http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2219559/Florida-biologist-saves-drowning-bear.html |
| 21:09.51 | mrpull | Jayce^: that reminds me of my old days of reading Fark. how come everything weird happens in florida? |
| 21:11.21 | mrpull | did they redesign again? |
| 21:17.18 | sjansen | mrpull: opensolaris is looking pretty sweet |
| 21:17.47 | mrpull | i wish ZFS could be included in Linux |
| 21:18.14 | findlay | well, now that Linus is not keeping tabs on version numbers anymore maybe you can sneak it in |
| 21:18.19 | mrpull | :) |
| 21:19.52 | goozbach | I for one, imagine a bunch of iodrives with zfs sitting on top, inside of a beowulf cluster. |
| 21:19.55 | mrpull | is there an effort to stretch a worthwhile gui over the storage aspects of opensolaris? it sure is shaping up to be a very good free low-mid ranger storage option |
| 21:21.29 | findlay | some emterprising entrepreneur will probably |
| 21:22.42 | goozbach | just buy a netapp |
| 21:22.46 | goozbach | or install openfiler |
| 21:22.48 | goozbach | :) |
| 21:23.20 | findlay | what rh package has cc1plus in it? |
| 21:31.51 | tensai | ~find cc1plus |
| 21:37.40 | sjansen | findlay: yum list 'gcc*' |
| 21:39.21 | sjansen | At least I assume your asking for a translation of a crazy Debian name for C++. |
| 21:42.11 | tensai | findlay: I found it in gcc-c++.i386 |
| 21:42.27 | tensai | # rpm -ql gcc-c++.i386 |grep cc1plus |
| 21:42.27 | tensai | /usr/libexec/gcc/i386-redhat-linux/3.4.3/cc1plus |
| 21:42.44 | findlay | tensai: me too |
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| 21:43.40 | findlay | what do you guys think about quantum chromodynamics? |
| 21:43.47 | findlay | does that sound interesting? |
| 21:48.32 | Tene | for what? |
| 21:49.46 | findlay | for fun |
| 21:49.48 | findlay | what else? |
| 21:51.36 | Tene | quenching thirst. |
| 22:22.16 | levi | Mmm, quantum chromodynamics. |
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| 22:35.05 | Tene | Mmm, damian conway. |
| 22:35.13 | sjansen | still wants to take a nap |
| 22:36.17 | Tene | ~nap sjansen |
| 22:36.17 | ibot | ACTION gives sjansen an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending sjansen to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple. |
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| 23:43.50 | Sargun | What's the page size on X86 Linux? |
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| 23:48.31 | bugQ | odd. |
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| 23:53.05 | bugQ | Sargun: I found something that has led me to believe that the system call "getpagesize" has the answer. |
| 23:54.14 | bugQ | ah, something better: http://www.linuxmanpages.com/man2/getpagesize.2.php |
| 23:55.19 | bugQ | also, this seems to be 4096 in most cases. |
