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| 00:40.55 | Sargun_screen | XUL is boring. |
| 00:46.11 | lakshmi | hi Sargun_screen |
| 00:48.25 | findlay | ~xul Sargun_screen |
| 01:17.12 | nick125 | When will people learn to file proper abuse complaints? |
| 01:19.22 | nick125 | "please stop trying to acces port 123 on my system." |
| 01:19.30 | nick125 | A lot of use that does me. |
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| 01:20.42 | nick125 | mainly because they don't tell me *what* IP their system has.. |
| 01:23.27 | nick125 | I checked all of the hosts in my ntp.conf file against those of the domain that sent the email and my ntpd doesn't have entries even in the same /8. |
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| 01:49.04 | elg | -lart redbeard2 |
| 01:49.04 | brac | signs redbeard2 up for the Iowa State Ferret Legging Championship |
| 01:49.16 | elg | did you see someone on openclue figured out your vim question from the other day? |
| 01:49.21 | elg | well, almost. emulates less instead of cat |
| 01:49.27 | elg | -chat redbeard2 |
| 01:49.28 | brac | redbeard2 did |
| 01:49.37 | elg | redbeard2 did the salsa |
| 01:59.43 | levi | Anyone have any idea what the music is that's playing in the PBS HD ad for Great Performances? |
| 02:00.08 | levi | It's like a classical/electronic fusion |
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| 02:11.56 | levi | Someone put it on youtube: http://youtube.com/watch?v=6XdNRGVNahk |
| 02:36.43 | nick125 | So this person went and blocked my subnet, sent me an abuse complaint, then sends me another nasty gram... |
| 02:40.00 | nick125 | "I opened up TCP traffic to my mail server if you can get past the DNS issues." |
| 02:40.02 | nick125 | ... |
| 03:12.32 | findlay | nick125: that's wierd |
| 03:14.44 | goozbach | mango salsa! |
| 03:15.06 | jsmith | has some mango salsa in the fridge |
| 03:22.46 | findlay | ~salsify |
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| 03:55.48 | levi | mmm, I wish I had mango salsa. |
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| 03:58.58 | fozzmoo | levi: I've got a half quart in my fridge. |
| 03:59.07 | fozzmoo | I don't like it. Too sweet. |
| 03:59.22 | fozzmoo | But I like the mango salsa at Bajio |
| 04:06.46 | Sargun | what would be a fun piece of code to run on peoples systems, that can be all written in one function, and cannot cannot link to external libraries? |
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| 04:23.53 | sontek | Tene: I hear you are a PHP Master! |
| 04:24.08 | sontek | points and laughs |
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| 04:24.48 | Tene | sontek: eh? where'd you hear that? |
| 04:24.55 | fozzmoo | raises hand |
| 04:25.05 | sontek | fozzmoo: I was going to keep my source a secret! |
| 04:25.27 | fozzmoo | sontek: I feel too bad for making him do it. |
| 04:25.35 | sontek | lol |
| 04:26.31 | Tene | Eh, it happens. |
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| 05:15.11 | findlay | -chat |
| 05:15.15 | brac | i'm just saying that a week when you're in the world it's wrong. That spelling yields a 'tip about how its done then |
| 05:15.18 | infotron | -excuse |
| 05:15.18 | brac | IRQ dropout |
| 05:15.30 | findlay | -chat Tene |
| 05:15.31 | brac | Tene went to dances... and we lousy Treo users that would be cool to see what kinds of charges with different text on every line until the money in a company in Germany |
| 05:18.03 | fozzmoo | nice one |
| 05:19.49 | findlay | -chat fozzmoo |
| 05:19.49 | brac | fozzmoo had a postscript or PDF file you can avoid clicking if necessary |
| 05:30.10 | infotron | -chat rudderless |
| 05:30.10 | brac | rudderless is |
| 05:30.42 | findlay | -metar kpvu |
| 05:30.53 | brac | KPVU 150515Z 13006KT 10SM CLR 20/08 A3007 RMK AO1 |
| 05:57.09 | elg | -chat if only |
| 05:57.10 | brac | if only i can ssh to my ever-growing list, though. |
| 05:57.14 | elg | -chat she drives |
| 05:57.14 | brac | she drives straight into wall. |
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| 13:51.50 | Sargun_screen | ibot: no it isn't |
| 13:53.53 | nick125 | yawns |
| 13:53.56 | nick125 | morning Sargun_screen |
| 13:56.07 | nick125 | damnit, I can't figure out where this rogue NTP traffic is coming from. |
| 13:58.06 | Sargun_screen | lol |
| 13:58.11 | Sargun_screen | If it coming from your IP? |
| 13:58.38 | nick125 | I've been running tcpdump for the past 12 hours. |
| 13:58.43 | nick125 | Nothing other than SMTP traffic. |
| 13:59.37 | nick125 | My ntpd has no reason to send traffic to him unless he requests it, which according to him, is impossible. |
| 14:00.27 | Sargun_screen | maybe the previous owner of his IP had him join the ntp pol? |
| 14:00.36 | nick125 | nope |
| 14:00.41 | nick125 | my server doesn't sync against the pool |
| 14:01.12 | Sargun_screen | Uh, do you have any embedded devices? |
| 14:01.21 | Sargun_screen | What's his IP? |
| 14:01.25 | nick125 | Sargun_screen: He says it's coming from my server's IP |
| 14:01.51 | Sargun_screen | What's his IP? |
| 14:01.56 | Sargun_screen | someone hacked your server? |
| 14:02.23 | nick125 | I've ran tcpdump all night. Nothing other than SMTP. |
| 14:02.39 | nick125 | to/from his host. |
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| 14:12.02 | levi | Good morning. |
| 14:17.22 | nick125 | Well, I just got an email back from him, and the traffic supposely stopped about half an hour before I started logging (I told him I started logging 12 hours ago, and he says the traffic stopped 11 hours ago). |
| 14:22.00 | peno | there is the possibility that someone is spoofing your ip. |
| 14:23.23 | nick125 | peno: That's one of the possibilities on my shortlist of ideas as to where this is coming from and why. |
| 14:24.58 | nick125 | The two candidates are either spoofing or dishonesty. |
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| 14:56.17 | lakshmi | hey Sargun_screen |
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| 16:00.08 | lakshmi-palm | hey guys |
| 16:00.16 | lakshmi-palm | Sargun |
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| 16:06.03 | findlay | -chat Sargun |
| 16:06.04 | brac | Sargun did you see it. |
| 16:07.35 | fozzmoo | -chat chat |
| 16:07.35 | brac | chat was brilliant as well since I changed the price of having a synthesizer attached |
| 16:09.15 | findlay | -chat annoy lakshmi-palm |
| 16:09.15 | brac | annoy lakshmi-palm |
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| 16:59.35 | unum | so how are the ati mb chipsets with linux? |
| 17:00.06 | unum | hasn't looked at hardware in soooo long |
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| 17:27.09 | bonez44 | I am looking for small business help. ... support.. and am willing to PAY for it.. er.. my wife is..for her company.. setting up new servers.. she'd like to meet to discuss her needs... with graphic design, backup, encryption, archival...etc... I have told her that I can find the folks who could help her do all this......using FOSS..... just need to know if I can find a group of guys..and gals.. maquis... who would take on this project....my wife would listen |
| 17:27.32 | bonez44 | or if some other channel/room on here.. is devoted to small business issues.. point the way, please... |
| 17:29.07 | unum | bonez44: how much time are we looking at here |
| 17:29.37 | unum | are you mostly looking for initial set up or are you also looking for weekly mantaince |
| 17:29.56 | unum | you might want to hit the appropriate mailing list. lots of free lancers on those |
| 17:30.35 | bonez44 | unum, not much.. this is her web site... www.2ndlanguagesuccess.com |
| 17:30.59 | bonez44 | she runs this from home... but it's a national company and her clients pay her well for her products and services... |
| 17:33.12 | bonez44 | she needs someone who can gain her trust.. to say... this is what you need for a server and UPS.. and here's how to set up asterisk or a trix box... and why it would help you.. give professional image.. and .. if we can find anyone.. here's how she could learn to do her own graphic design work.. again, hoping to do this using FOSS tools...as she has been screwed by too many self righteous..and just weird degisn types .. who all think their work is worth millio |
| 17:35.06 | maquis | lol |
| 17:35.20 | maquis | bonez44: wish i could help, but i'm unable to currently. |
| 17:35.26 | maquis | looks interesting, though |
| 17:35.34 | bonez44 | that's ok maquis... |
| 17:36.16 | bonez44 | I know if my wife could connect to the right person in the linux/foss geek crowd here.. and that person could gain her trust, and show her, that he/she has a track record and can make things happen, she would convert today |
| 17:36.16 | maquis | tell her i wish her well on it, though :) |
| 17:38.22 | keldwud | wait what? |
| 17:38.37 | keldwud | volunteers |
| 17:38.46 | keldwud | or am I totally taking that out of context? heh |
| 17:38.56 | keldwud | you didn't mean that in the swingin sort of way did you |
| 17:39.01 | keldwud | lulz |
| 17:39.30 | bonez44 | keldwud: trying to get my wife set up .. with some better data management |
| 17:39.37 | keldwud | ooh hawt! |
| 17:39.50 | keldwud | you gonna watch? or join in? |
| 17:40.04 | bonez44 | oh, I'd wanna watch, of course.. |
| 17:40.05 | keldwud | I don't swing both ways, but I aint scared to share |
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| 17:40.07 | bonez44 | heheh |
| 17:40.07 | keldwud | laughs |
| 17:40.21 | keldwud | hmmm |
| 17:40.22 | bonez44 | wife is married to MS..but hoping I can woo her over to Linux.. |
| 17:40.23 | keldwud | ponders |
| 17:40.26 | bonez44 | gotta run |
| 17:40.28 | bonez44 | back on later |
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| 17:40.40 | keldwud | hey is his wife hawt? |
| 17:40.43 | keldwud | laughs |
| 17:41.14 | maquis | glares at keldwud |
| 17:42.32 | keldwud | haha don't take me too seriously :) |
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| 17:43.23 | keldwud | did you want in on that action too and I'm steppin on yer kool-aid? ;) |
| 17:44.21 | sontek | I have an openmoko <3 <3 <3 |
| 17:44.28 | sontek | worse phone ever, but I love it ;P |
| 17:44.49 | keldwud | googles openmoko |
| 17:45.46 | keldwud | ew ugly |
| 17:46.42 | sontek | you think it looks ugly, you should use its interface :P |
| 17:46.50 | sontek | so cryptic and hard to use |
| 17:49.16 | keldwud | that bad huh? |
| 17:49.25 | keldwud | hey sontek bring it with you to the next meetup? |
| 17:49.28 | keldwud | I wanna see it |
| 17:49.50 | sontek | Yeah, I'll bring it |
| 17:49.53 | keldwud | oh wait, when *is* the next meetup? we still doin that pizza thing on those one days? I've missed all of them |
| 17:49.59 | sontek | I think it'll be an awesome phone in its next release |
| 17:50.07 | sontek | but it doesn't have any software |
| 17:50.25 | sontek | but i'm using the shipped firmware, they have 2 other stacks I need to test |
| 17:50.32 | sontek | one based off of qtopia is supposed to be pretty good |
| 17:51.09 | keldwud | yeah I'm definitely interested in checking it out |
| 17:51.44 | keldwud | I'll let you play on my eee pc while I play on your phone, we'll swap :) haha |
| 17:51.56 | infotron | hehe |
| 17:52.00 | keldwud | eee pc = sexiness |
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| 18:03.07 | bugQ | mini inspiron = more sexiness |
| 18:03.49 | fozzmoo | Yeah, I'm looking forward to the Dell E. |
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| 18:10.07 | ^Migs^ | http://www.homefair.com/real-estate/cost-of-living.asp?cc=1 |
| 18:43.13 | findlay | how do you grep for a \? |
| 18:43.23 | jsmith | findlay: \\? |
| 18:43.27 | findlay | when I do `grep "\\"` it says grep: Trailing backslash |
| 18:43.58 | jsmith | single quotes |
| 18:44.04 | jsmith | grep '\\' *.conf |
| 18:44.18 | findlay | interesting |
| 18:45.43 | bugQ | you could do "\\\\" too. |
| 18:45.50 | bugQ | but that's silly. |
| 19:34.19 | ^Migs^ | http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/air_space/4273248.html |
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| 19:44.44 | nick125 | So, I think I finally solved the Mystery of the Rogue NTP Packets(TM).. |
| 19:45.08 | nick125 | I got some tcpdump output showing that his system (or something spoofing his system) is sending an NTP request and my system is just responding to it. |
| 19:45.22 | ^Migs^ | http://www.usatoday.com/tech/webguide/internetlife/2008-07-14-cyberbullying_N.htm |
| 19:45.24 | brac | [Cyberbullying grows bigger and meaner with photos, video - USATODAY.com] |
| 20:04.54 | sjansen | ~lart ^Migs^ |
| 20:04.54 | ibot | whacks ^Migs^ with a giant beaver's tail |
| 20:05.06 | sjansen | posts video of ^Migs^ using Windows |
| 20:05.25 | sjansen | signs ^Migs^ up for every SPAM list he can find |
| 20:05.37 | nick125 | wonders when sjansen turned into a robot |
| 20:06.49 | sjansen | creates a MySpace page for ^Migs^ and lists Briney Spears and Paris Hilton as friends |
| 20:08.26 | sjansen | gets sent to the principal for a slap on the wrist |
| 20:08.52 | nick125 | That's mean, sjansen. |
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| 20:31.14 | elg | anyone have FYC she drives me crazy? |
| 20:34.11 | bonez45 | ah, the cannibals.... |
| 20:34.12 | bonez45 | great tune |
| 20:34.45 | bonez45 | and so accurate.... don't women drive us all crazy......hehehe we... love 'em but still they drive us up the walllllllllll |
| 20:39.00 | bonez45 | dang, I scared elg away |
| 20:44.12 | ^Migs^ | gross http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article4332635.ece?pgnum=2 |
| 20:44.20 | brac | [I had sex with my brother but I don't feel guilty - Times Online] |
| 20:44.24 | ^Migs^ | "A woman slept with her sibling for years and has good memories. Not many people understand their relationship, she says" |
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| 21:07.15 | unum | our main client sent us t-shirts that say "It's not enough that I win all others must lose" -- Attila The Hun |
| 21:07.32 | unum | suddenly it seems fitting that they have the RIAA and Walmart as clients |
| 21:09.23 | elg | so I have a bunch of files I need to send to a phone via SMS |
| 21:09.48 | elg | (because the stupid phone won't let you set mp3s as ring tones when you transfer them with a memory card or bluetooth, only when you receive it as an sms message) |
| 21:09.59 | nick125 | What kind of stupid phone? |
| 21:10.11 | elg | can I just send to number@vtext.com (verizon customer) as regular email attachments? |
| 21:10.18 | elg | lg vx835 iirc |
| 21:10.31 | nick125 | mmm...probably not. let me double check |
| 21:11.16 | sjansen | ~take ^Migs^'s url posting rights |
| 21:12.18 | nick125 | elg: try sending it to (num)@vzwpix.com..that might work. |
| 21:13.36 | elg | actually i don't have the phone handy right now, not until this eve |
| 21:13.41 | elg | but i'm happy to send one to your phone :) |
| 21:14.06 | nick125 | So the mystery of the rogue NTP packets has officially been solved. The other guy confirmed that his system was sending me NTP requests. |
| 21:16.21 | nick125 | sure.... |
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| 21:26.28 | Jayce^ | everybody in here has watched the first act of Dr. Horrible, right? |
| 21:27.15 | ^Migs^ | is getting frustrated with mod_rewrite |
| 21:27.23 | sjansen | What would have freaking hurt for python's sort() to return the stupid sort list so I wouldn't have to write extra ugly code. |
| 21:27.27 | sjansen | ? |
| 21:27.41 | ^Migs^ | anyone know how to use Redirect to ONLY redirect the top-level directory to another site, but not the subdirectories? |
| 21:27.46 | ^Migs^ | in .htaccess that is |
| 21:28.11 | nick125 | does htaccess allow you to do regex-based matches? |
| 21:28.11 | sjansen | ^Migs^: A regular expression should handle that no problem. |
| 21:28.17 | nick125 | yeah |
| 21:28.19 | nick125 | ^/$ |
| 21:28.38 | ^Migs^ | just ^/$ in the line will do it? I'll try it. |
| 21:28.53 | ^Migs^ | you guys are ridiculously smart at regex |
| 21:29.03 | sjansen | Frankly, many uses of mod_rewrite I've seen are overkill. |
| 21:29.45 | ^Migs^ | I need it in this case: http://blog.weber.k12.ut.us I want to get rid of that page, but all the other blogs have names like http://blog.weber.k12.ut.us/jreeve, etc. |
| 21:30.23 | ^Migs^ | see how i stealthily did a shameless plug to my blog there? :) |
| 21:30.38 | sjansen | Many times a redirect is better than mod_rewrite. http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_alias.html#redirect |
| 21:30.45 | brac | [mod_alias - Apache HTTP Server] |
| 21:30.58 | ^Migs^ | I'm trying to use a Redirect |
| 21:31.17 | sjansen | You're using mod_rewrite to perform redirection? |
| 21:31.33 | ^Migs^ | I want it to point to this page: http://www.weber.k12.ut.us/index.php?page=latest-blog-posts but if I do if I do Redirect / http://www.weber.k12.ut.us/index.php?page=latest-blog-posts it doesn't work |
| 21:31.42 | ^Migs^ | -1 if i do |
| 21:31.52 | ^Migs^ | er, Redirect 301 |
| 21:32.01 | ^Migs^ | oh wait, that means permanent |
| 21:32.34 | sjansen | You want RedirectMatch unless you mean everything under / also. Read the doc. |
| 21:32.41 | ^Migs^ | okay |
| 21:34.42 | sjansen | BTW, ^/$ is Regex 101. Worth investing time studying. When you know at least the basics of regex, bife becomes simpler, love becomes stronger, air becomes purer, and your sweat can be sold as perfume. |
| 21:34.58 | sjansen | s/bife/life/ |
| 21:35.16 | ^Migs^ | every time I learn any regex, it's generally just for one specific purposes, then I don't use it for awhile and forget everything |
| 21:35.20 | ^Migs^ | *purpose |
| 21:35.32 | ^Migs^ | s/purpose/porpoise |
| 21:36.04 | ^Migs^ | what I NEED is a regex-intensive project to work on |
| 21:37.41 | Sargun | lipcre |
| 21:38.16 | Sargun | s/li/lib/ |
| 21:38.49 | maquis | ~35*6 |
| 21:38.49 | ibot | 210 |
| 21:38.56 | lakshmi | hi Sargun |
| 21:39.06 | maquis | ~70*5 |
| 21:39.07 | ibot | 350 |
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| 22:00.01 | ^Migs^ | thanks for your help, btw |
| 22:00.06 | ^Migs^ | @ everyone |
| 22:00.22 | Tene | sjansen: you're saying that you'll buy my sweat? |
| 22:00.59 | sjansen | Tene: you're saying that you think I'm in the market for perfume? |
| 22:01.31 | sjansen | ~maquis^2 |
| 22:01.35 | nick125 | Of course |
| 22:01.56 | nick125 | Why else would we catch you at the perfume counter at Walmart? |
| 22:04.21 | sjansen | Oh, that. I was just checking to make sure my regex-fu was still strong. |
| 22:04.36 | nick125 | That's what they all say! |
| 22:06.22 | fozzmoo | http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/severed-usb-cable-is-really-a-2gb-flash-drive/ |
| 22:06.24 | brac | [Severed USB cable is really a 2GB flash drive - Engadget] |
| 22:29.33 | jsmith | fozzmoo: That's awesome... if you accidentally leave it somewhere, your data is likely to be safe as someone will just throw it away! |
| 22:29.50 | fozzmoo | yep |
| 22:31.40 | jsmith | fozzmoo: Almost as good, but not quite: http://www.amazon.com/Fred-ABCG-ABC-Cookie-Cutter/dp/B000FPH3X2/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&s=kitchen&qid=1216161035&sr=1-17 |
| 22:33.07 | fozzmoo | heh |
| 22:35.18 | nick125 | http://www.amazon.com/Fred-HOLYT-Holy-Toast-Stamper/dp/B000KG8E52/ref=pd_bxgy_k_text_b |
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| 22:47.40 | sontek | anyone know where network manager stores its config when it connects? |
| 22:47.42 | sontek | or does it? |
| 22:48.14 | jsmith | sontek: Probably somewhere in gconf2 |
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| 23:11.03 | goozbach | soo tired |
| 23:21.59 | sinuhe | goozbach: So next Spring it sounds like you've got another GL trip to take. :-) |
| 23:22.26 | sinuhe | goozbach: Or have you done your trip this year? |
| 23:23.41 | spr | Does any one know if there is a way to have tab insert spaces in VI? |
| 23:23.57 | spr | expandtab only exists in vim it seems. |
| 23:27.07 | sinuhe | The old vi uses ts to define the number of spaces a tab represents, but it is still a single character for a tab (the default being eight). I don't know that pressing tab can be reinterpreted as separate space characters. |
| 23:30.04 | spr | That seems to be what I'm seeing from a google search. |
| 23:38.31 | sinuhe | I once thought that the annoying 8 tab indent was too much, but have since realized that it is 8 characters visually for a reason: to remind that is a single character. Adding several spaces is a waste and more to process with scripts. Changing it to less than 8 throws everything off visually if tab was used instead of 8 spaces. If what you want are spaces, insert spaces. Just a thought. |
| 23:44.41 | spr | actually, the main problem is autoindent. It does spaces just fine at 4, but for every set of 8 it puts in a tab. You might end up with a tab followed by 4 spaces at the third level indent. |
| 23:45.14 | spr | If the file is already all spaces, and has no tabs, you can set the tabstop really high to fix that behavior... |
| 23:45.14 | sinuhe | Ugh. That's weird. |
| 23:46.11 | spr | The weird thing with it is if the line is manually spaced out to 8, and the tab stop is 8, and autoindent is on, the line is suddenly preceeded by a tab. |
| 23:46.43 | spr | sorry, the next line is preceeded by a tab. The original line is 8 spaces |
| 23:47.27 | spr | Oh well, yet another reason why I use vim. |
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| 23:49.14 | sinuhe | spr: Use ed, and avoid the problems. :-) |
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