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| 00:21.52 | nick125 | what the heck |
| 00:23.17 | Sargun | lol |
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| 00:40.36 | elg | pointer quiz of the day |
| 00:41.09 | elg | char **argv passed to a function wanting char * const * |
| 00:41.21 | bugQ | is wrong |
| 00:41.25 | elg | so far so good. but now I want to modify the function to take a pointer (pass-by-reference) |
| 00:41.33 | elg | so that I can modify argv |
| 00:41.39 | elg | where do I put the next star? |
| 00:41.47 | bugQ | buh? |
| 00:42.14 | bugQ | ah. |
| 00:42.43 | bugQ | at the end. |
| 00:42.56 | bugQ | but why not &? |
| 00:43.22 | bugQ | i.e. add "const &" to the type |
| 00:43.29 | bugQ | or, not const. |
| 00:43.33 | elg | c not c++ |
| 00:43.50 | elg | ok, so that's what I did, char * const ** |
| 00:44.04 | elg | but the compiler warns me that |
| 00:44.05 | elg | test.c:8: warning: passing argument 2 of âparse_optionsâ from incompatible pointer type |
| 00:44.42 | bugQ | did you change the function call too? |
| 00:44.47 | elg | yes |
| 00:44.53 | elg | and it works |
| 00:44.56 | elg | i.e. doesn't blow up |
| 00:45.05 | elg | but i'd rather get rid of the warning |
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| 00:46.30 | Sargun | haha |
| 00:46.34 | bugQ | erm, maybe I got it wrong. |
| 00:46.55 | Sargun | a pointer to pointers! |
| 00:47.36 | bugQ | oh, the rabbit hole is quite deep. |
| 00:48.29 | elg | i can grok char *** easy enough, but start throwing in const and I get lost :) |
| 00:49.40 | findlay | const static public void register char **************** |
| 00:49.51 | findlay | ; |
| 00:50.16 | bugQ | try char ** const * |
| 00:50.34 | bugQ | I don't think it works that way, though... |
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| 00:57.40 | levi | Man, I left for about a week, and PLUG went quiet and on-topic. |
| 00:58.21 | findlay | haha |
| 00:58.26 | Sargun | haha |
| 00:59.47 | elg | levi: any thoughts on my pointer puzzle? |
| 01:00.38 | Sargun | Its a bad idea. Don't use C |
| 01:00.42 | Sargun | :-P |
| 01:01.05 | levi | elg: Nope, sorry. |
| 01:01.12 | Sargun | elg, 2> /dev/null |
| 01:02.03 | levi | Man, I haven't had anything real to eat except for some McDonald's breakfast food around 9:30 this morning. |
| 01:02.11 | levi | I've been driving all day. |
| 01:03.38 | elg | Sargun: you remind me of nothing more than an ostrich |
| 01:04.27 | Sargun | err |
| 01:04.31 | Sargun | gcc 2> /dev/null |
| 01:15.41 | levi | elg: Why's he remind you of an ostrich? |
| 01:15.53 | elg | head in sand |
| 01:16.19 | elg | so looks like the key is to read pointers right to left |
| 01:17.20 | elg | char *const **argv is right, but I just needed to change my main to match to get rid of the warning |
| 01:18.11 | levi | C declaration notation is an abomination in the non-trivial cases. |
| 01:18.59 | levi | attempts to get his phone working again. |
| 01:21.03 | elg | tried to repair a microphone cable today |
| 01:21.09 | elg | i was thwarted by a stupid stripped screw |
| 01:21.31 | levi | I hate those. |
| 01:21.34 | elg | and the only place I can think of to pick up a new $2.50 connector is Guitar Center |
| 01:21.59 | nick125 | And let me guess, they probably want more than $2.50 for it. |
| 01:23.02 | elg | which is naturally an hour away. oh well, I'll be closer to guitar center on Friday or Saturday. I duct taped it into submission in the meantime |
| 01:23.11 | elg | no that's the guitar center price. if they have it in stock... |
| 01:24.38 | elg | radioshack otoh wants more, though it looks like they do have them in stock |
| 01:26.27 | elg | still, to do the job right I need a pair of wire strippers and multimeter, which are also found at my parents' house |
| 01:26.33 | elg | so I'll probably just wait |
| 01:27.00 | elg | (the radio shack ones are $7-$10) |
| 01:27.29 | findlay | ahahaha |
| 01:27.38 | findlay | when all else fails, check the ethernet jack |
| 02:20.59 | findlay | I think jsmith-away is having identity issues |
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| 02:53.24 | levi | elg: opg looks nifty |
| 02:55.28 | elg | i think so |
| 02:55.29 | elg | :) |
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| 03:12.36 | levi | Hmm, why do I keep bouncing? |
| 03:14.46 | goozbach | leaky tubes |
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| 03:25.22 | elg | hmm, TAP (test-anything protocol) seems interesting. In classical perl style, the idea is astoundingly elegant, the implementation astoundingly perlish, and the documentation astoundingly java-like (i.e. hard to read, never gets to the point) |
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| 03:30.11 | levi | Hmm, my wife went out to buy some milk, and has been gone for over an hour. :/ |
| 03:30.42 | elg | findlay kidnapped her and is making her listen to wagner at 90dB SPL |
| 03:34.08 | goozbach | wasn't that an episode of Macgyver? |
| 03:36.06 | sontek | You want to see some macgyver action? Bring a 30 pack of corona's (or any beer that doesn't have twist off) to a party and watch all the genius ways people open them |
| 03:36.47 | sontek | Forks, Screw Drivers, Table Tops, Belt Buckles, other Corona's, etc :p |
| 03:39.59 | bugQ | JeffM: you bwoke it! |
| 03:40.22 | bugQ | oops, wrong channel. |
| 03:40.31 | nick125 | levi: She probably got "sidetracked" and will come home with $500 of bathroom accessories or something. |
| 03:41.25 | sontek | But that just means he gets to get "sidetracked" and get an openmoko :D |
| 03:47.12 | findlay | having so tiny of a computer makes me feel like I'm living in a space capsule sometimes |
| 03:52.20 | bugQ | ogles the freerunner |
| 04:03.11 | Sargun | o.O |
| 04:18.57 | levi | sontek: I have enough useless 'open' hardware, no openmoko for me. :) |
| 04:19.20 | Sargun | levi, what open hardware do you have |
| 04:19.53 | levi | Well, not so much open hardware as Linux-running hardware that I could, if I desired, write software for. |
| 04:20.04 | levi | I have an old TuxScreen and a Zaurus. |
| 04:32.33 | RyanE | I was tempted by both the TuxScreen and the Zaurus, but managed to wait until the N800. Battery life still a bit lame, but otherwise a fun gadget. |
| 04:36.31 | levi | There's always this tremendous hype around these things in geek circles, and then somewhere on the order of 20 people actually do any serious development on them, and they never really get polished. |
| 04:37.13 | levi | Great technical infrastructure is often built, but actually using the devices pretty much sucks. |
| 04:37.46 | levi | Well, using them for anything other than geek toys, that is. |
| 04:38.56 | levi | When I pay a bunch of money for a PDA, I want it to be a great PDA. When I pay a bunch for a smartphone, I want it to be a great smartphone. Going for the 'open' one hasn't yielded that result, in my experience. |
| 06:26.25 | findlay | levi: come on, jump on the band wagon! |
| 06:26.37 | findlay | you shouldn't resist the temptation to be cool |
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| 07:34.29 | goozbach | any debianistas around? |
| 07:36.16 | Midorikawa | <---gentoo/mac user, although I used debian ages ago. |
| 07:36.17 | Midorikawa | what's up? |
| 07:41.16 | Sargun | nothing |
| 07:41.17 | Sargun | you |
| 07:41.27 | Midorikawa | pokes Sargun in the eye |
| 07:41.35 | Sargun | ouch |
| 07:41.55 | Midorikawa | I was hoping goozbach would bother asking his question. :-P |
| 07:46.34 | lakshmi | Sargun |
| 07:46.42 | lakshmi | pokes sargun in the eye |
| 07:47.08 | goozbach | I was wondering what command verifies the debian preseed files |
| 07:47.14 | goozbach | I found it |
| 07:47.25 | goozbach | debconf-set-configuration -c |
| 07:48.18 | Midorikawa | cool. heh. |
| 07:48.31 | Midorikawa | less work I have to do here the better. :-P |
| 07:48.39 | Midorikawa | goes back to watching gentoo install a kernel |
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| 12:12.00 | goozbach | now if I could figure out what's wrong with my local mirror. |
| 12:12.31 | goozbach | something is missing, and it won't install via netboot using my local apt mirror |
| 12:12.56 | goozbach | it installs just fine if you use the netinstall iso, but not doing a pxe boot. |
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| 12:50.30 | Midorikawa | dunno goozbach. been way too long since I last used debian |
| 12:50.55 | Sargun_screen | Debian is evil! |
| 12:51.04 | Midorikawa | haha |
| 12:51.08 | Sargun_screen | Use gentoo |
| 12:51.09 | Midorikawa | gentoo ftw. :-P |
| 12:51.13 | Sargun_screen | hahah |
| 12:51.15 | Midorikawa | haha |
| 12:51.40 | Sargun_screen | yah! Gentoo rocks |
| 12:51.47 | Midorikawa | I'm still working on that gentoo install. I hate spending 12-14 hours getting the dadgum thing installed, but man it's a nice OS |
| 12:52.46 | Midorikawa | stupid me forgot to setup the driver for the ethernet, so I get to go back and do that bit over again. whee. |
| 12:52.56 | Sargun_screen | I use it on 8 core 32 gig ram servers, and little 128 mb ram, 1 gig disk, 133 mhz processor boxes |
| 12:53.33 | Midorikawa | this one I'm installing it on is a 400MHz PII |
| 12:54.17 | Sargun_screen | Its in shang-hai, portland, soon to be london, india,, etc... |
| 12:54.17 | Sargun_screen | That's going to be painful |
| 12:54.33 | Midorikawa | err? |
| 12:54.47 | Sargun_screen | build all the binaries on your main machine in chroot' |
| 12:54.57 | Sargun_screen | emerge -G 'em |
| 12:56.19 | Sargun_screen | That reminds me that I need to do a tlobal ipdate |
| 12:56.29 | Sargun_screen | global |
| 12:56.35 | Sargun_screen | That'll be fun! |
| 12:57.14 | Sargun_screen | what's more exciting than a kernel update? |
| 12:57.53 | Midorikawa | argh! how about hitting enter early and mounting /boot to /mnt on the livecd instead of /mnt/gentoo/boot? :-P |
| 12:57.57 | Midorikawa | growls and starts over again |
| 12:58.51 | Sargun_screen | haha |
| 12:59.19 | Midorikawa | it killed the running system. had to force reboot, which means I'll be running e2fsck when it comes back up |
| 12:59.22 | Sargun_screen | a kernel update blind, on the other side of the world |
| 12:59.34 | Midorikawa | oooer. yeah, I'd imagine that would be fun. |
| 12:59.59 | Midorikawa | it's bad enough doing the kernel update with the computer close enough to be resting my feet on it. |
| 12:59.59 | Sargun_screen | how did it kill it? do you have / mounted to /mnt// |
| 13:00.22 | Midorikawa | well, I mounted the / to /mnt/gentoo on the live cd like you should when installing |
| 13:00.42 | Midorikawa | ...then I did mount /dev/sda1 /mnt instead of mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/gentoo/boot |
| 13:01.00 | Midorikawa | brought up all manner of pretty errors then kernel panicked and died. :-P |
| 13:01.11 | Sargun_screen | I have to do remote kernel updates on systemss in india, china, london, washington, and more |
| 13:01.40 | Sargun_screen | sadly they can't fly me out for every release |
| 13:03.04 | Midorikawa | that would be nice. |
| 13:03.22 | Sargun_screen | no. |
| 13:03.49 | Midorikawa | what, traveling isn't nice? heh. I wouldn't mind it. |
| 13:04.06 | Midorikawa | granted I'm not married and don't have kids, so I see things a bit different. :-P |
| 13:05.55 | Sargun_screen | me neither |
| 13:06.26 | Sargun_screen | but nonethless traveling is a pain |
| 13:06.48 | Sargun_screen | additionally, dealing with people iss a pain |
| 13:06.48 | Midorikawa | I'm also an army brat and grew up moving everywhere. drove me nuts to live in texas as long as I did when my parents finally retired |
| 13:07.19 | Sargun_screen | i crashed the wm on this |
| 13:07.27 | Sargun_screen | brb |
| 13:07.35 | Midorikawa | k |
| 13:09.29 | Sargun_screen | back |
| 13:09.53 | Midorikawa | welcome back |
| 13:09.55 | Sargun_screen | yay for nokia |
| 13:13.10 | Midorikawa | ehh, I'm a palm guy myself. |
| 13:17.03 | Sargun_screen | i have a palm and a nokia |
| 13:18.04 | Sargun_screen | treo 755p + Nokia N810 |
| 13:18.09 | Midorikawa | nice |
| 13:18.17 | Midorikawa | I had a Treo 650 |
| 13:18.21 | Midorikawa | just moved to a Centro not long ago |
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| 13:21.05 | Midorikawa | alright. kernel is compiling again. this will take another 45 minutes or so. bbl |
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| 13:25.00 | Sargun_screen | Cool. |
| 13:25.01 | Sargun_screen | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:25.04 | Sargun_screen | emcnabb: morning. |
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| 13:27.36 | Sargun_screen | http://www.lookatmystripedshirt.com/articleLAMSS.asp |
| 13:27.39 | Sargun_screen | NSFW |
| 13:27.39 | brac | [The Phat Phree's "Look At My Striped Shirt!" Available December 26th] |
| 13:53.32 | Midorikawa | argh. halfway through and no space left. >:-O |
| 13:53.38 | Midorikawa | goes to reorganize the filesystem |
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| 15:27.41 | fozzmoo | http://blogs.chron.com/sciguy/archives/2008/07/is_black_hole_a.html |
| 15:29.06 | encryptz | hello #utah from pittsburgh |
| 15:29.58 | elg | you can get tux dolls branded as the local hockey team in the airport |
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| 16:03.28 | lakshmi-palm | hi sargun |
| 16:03.46 | Sargun | hi lakshmi-palm |
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| 16:12.45 | lakshmi-palm | hi sargun agian |
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| 17:49.54 | levi | Heya, #utah folks. |
| 17:56.08 | bugQ | boink! |
| 17:59.02 | levi | Wassup? |
| 17:59.29 | bugQ | GSoC/ |
| 17:59.38 | bugQ | er, '.', not '/'. |
| 17:59.50 | levi | What GSoC project are you working on? |
| 17:59.56 | bugQ | BZFlag, of all things |
| 18:00.07 | levi | Oh. |
| 18:00.22 | levi | BZFlag is cool, but not terribly interesting to me. |
| 18:01.22 | bugQ | I know! the two projects that I wanted to get in on didn't make the list, so I just took what I could get |
| 18:01.30 | bugQ | it's fun, though. |
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| 18:02.45 | levi | ibot: Bless you. |
| 18:02.45 | ibot | you.: Live long and prosper! \//, |
| 18:02.46 | bugQ | gesundheit. |
| 18:02.58 | bugQ | heheh |
| 18:03.12 | levi | ibot: bless findlay |
| 18:03.12 | ibot | findlay: Live long and prosper! \//, |
| 18:04.01 | levi | Where's the pinky? |
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| 18:38.02 | elg | haha http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7499631.stm |
| 18:38.08 | brac | [BBC NEWS | Americas | Drug stash found in US police car] |
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| 18:55.03 | findlay | what're we going to do tonight, Brain? |
| 18:56.05 | Tene | Stash drugs in a US police car? |
| 18:56.27 | findlay | those silly Americans |
| 18:56.45 | levi | Presumably the drugs were put there before it was seized by the police and repurposed as a police vehicle. |
| 18:57.11 | Tene | Stash drugs in findlay's car? |
| 18:57.31 | levi | That sounds like a better idea. |
| 18:57.48 | levi | Designing the hydraulic compartment and secret switch combination to open it sounds like fun. |
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| 19:46.26 | levi | So, I found a website, www.themormonworker.org, that is essentially a newspaper for anarchist/socialist mormon thought. Pretty stark contrast from typical mormon political thinking. |
| 19:46.57 | dataw0lf | that's pretty interesting. |
| 19:49.35 | levi | There's clearly precedent for it in mormon scripture and history, but those aspects aren't given a whole lot of thought today. |
| 19:50.11 | ^Migs^ | how is this any different from Sunstone or Dialogue? |
| 19:51.37 | mrpull | levi: it is kinda fun to consider that contrast. i don't want to be a socialist, but have I already agreed to it? |
| 19:52.09 | levi | ^Migs^: I don't think Sunstone or Dialogue focus on politics. |
| 19:53.14 | levi | mrpull: Well, there are different varieties and definitions for socialism. The United Order clearly fits in some of them. |
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| 19:58.48 | mrpull | How was the United Order dissolved? |
| 19:58.58 | jake | say hi to my class everyone :) |
| 19:59.17 | mrpull | ~say hi to my class everyone :-) |
| 19:59.17 | ibot | hi to my class everyone :-) |
| 19:59.45 | maquis | jake's class: hi! |
| 19:59.53 | ^Migs^ | howdy jake's class! |
| 20:00.00 | ^Migs^ | can we get a WOOT WOOT |
| 20:00.09 | maquis | ~lart jake |
| 20:00.09 | ibot | executes killall -HUP jake |
| 20:00.13 | ^Migs^ | ~lart maquis |
| 20:00.13 | ibot | executes killall -HUP maquis |
| 20:00.24 | maquis | ~whaleslap Midorikawa |
| 20:00.25 | ibot | ACTION beats Midorikawa upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 20:00.25 | maquis | er |
| 20:00.26 | ^Migs^ | ~lart jake |
| 20:00.26 | ibot | crushes jake with a full height scsi disk |
| 20:00.26 | maquis | doh |
| 20:00.30 | Sargun | ~rlart |
| 20:00.30 | ibot | gives diesel an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending diesel to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple |
| 20:00.33 | maquis | ~whaleslap ^Migs^ |
| 20:00.33 | ibot | ACTION beats ^Migs^ upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 20:00.34 | ^Migs^ | ~whalebomb maquis |
| 20:00.34 | ibot | ACTION throws an explosive whale named Gunter at maquis and hides. |
| 20:00.42 | Sargun | ahaha |
| 20:00.42 | maquis | ~whaleparry ^Migs^ |
| 20:00.42 | ibot | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry ^Migs^'s attacks. |
| 20:00.55 | ^Migs^ | ~whaleslam maquis |
| 20:00.58 | ^Migs^ | :( |
| 20:01.04 | Sargun | ^Migs^, :-d |
| 20:01.17 | Sargun | ^Migs^, D-: |
| 20:01.23 | maquis | jake: are we being friendly enough for your class? |
| 20:01.30 | maquis | jake: which class, btw? |
| 20:01.44 | Sargun | RH033 probably |
| 20:01.45 | jake | GL120 |
| 20:01.48 | Sargun | oh. |
| 20:01.49 | Sargun | damnit |
| 20:03.02 | ^Migs^ | what's RH033 and GL120? |
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| 20:03.20 | jalbretsen | hi me |
| 20:03.36 | ^Migs^ | wow, when did I speak to myself? |
| 20:04.51 | jalbretsen | no, i did |
| 20:05.31 | Sargun | hi you |
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| 20:05.55 | jakeinclass | pidgin |
| 20:06.05 | jalbretsen | good job me |
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| 20:09.11 | findlay | ~lart jalbretsen |
| 20:09.11 | ibot | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up jalbretsen |
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| 20:41.17 | unum | pashdown: you need to make a new bumper sticker "tin foil hat wearer" |
| 20:41.22 | unum | or something like that |
| 20:41.51 | unum | why is it so hard for other people to believe something like water gate can happen again |
| 20:41.55 | unum | I don't get it |
| 20:46.58 | Heartsbane | unum: what are you referring too? |
| 20:53.52 | unum | Hatch dismissed opponents like Feingold and the ACLU as conspiracy theorists, saying they "should join the black helicopter crowd and wear tinfoil hats. I think they would be in greater company." |
| 20:54.20 | unum | http://www.sltrib.com/ci_9829067 if you want more good hatch quotes |
| 20:54.30 | Heartsbane | oh |
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| 20:55.01 | unum | for those of you who don't know pashdown made bumber stickers that said "nutcake" reffering to an other hatch comment |
| 20:58.10 | Heartsbane | I can't beleive the Senate passed that... I thought it would get a bigger fight in a 'deliberative' body |
| 20:58.13 | Heartsbane | Feh |
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| 21:14.57 | levi | 'Terrorist' is the new 'Communist' |
| 21:19.28 | mrpull | i'm still thinking Hatch mixed his metaphors. I know nutjobs and fruitcakes, but i've never met a nutcake. |
| 21:21.25 | Jayce^ | mrpull, I'm sure redbeard2 could make one |
| 21:21.53 | unum | levi: exactly |
| 21:22.17 | unum | I like how hatch says that this is a special case |
| 21:22.51 | unum | any historian could easily go back over our 225 year history and point out similiar special cases |
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| 21:53.17 | maquis | ~lart jalbretsen |
| 21:53.17 | ibot | farts in jalbretsen's general direction |
| 21:53.28 | jalbretsen | maquis, you still at Amazon? |
| 21:53.32 | maquis | jalbretsen: yup |
| 21:53.37 | jalbretsen | Seattle? |
| 21:53.41 | maquis | yup |
| 21:53.52 | jalbretsen | why isn't it raining this week that I'm here? |
| 21:54.47 | maquis | because it's one of our 3 warm weeks |
| 21:54.53 | maquis | where abouts are you? |
| 21:55.05 | jalbretsen | Bellevue |
| 21:55.11 | jalbretsen | SQLSoft |
| 21:55.18 | maquis | i'm loving today. I've got the prettiest view out my window right now |
| 21:55.24 | maquis | ah... on the east side |
| 21:55.34 | jalbretsen | I have a friend that just got a job offer to work at Amazon in Seattle |
| 21:55.38 | maquis | cool! |
| 21:55.51 | jalbretsen | say good things I can tell him |
| 21:55.58 | maquis | do you know what team or department he's going to? |
| 21:58.50 | maquis | jalbretsen: see pm :) |
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| 22:12.47 | bonez45 | Anyone here know of this company > www.protonc.com < ? I am trying to find someone who can create what they do...more simply.... |
| 22:14.34 | sontek | omgz |
| 22:39.16 | jsmith | maquis: Can you knock some heads together at Amazon for me? |
| 22:43.13 | maquis | jsmith: what's wrong? |
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| 23:38.14 | elg | but i'm encouraged that the scots originally made it with oat flour |
| 23:38.27 | elg | though i've yet to taste that concotion either |
| 23:38.43 | elg | but i can't imagine whole wheat being much worse than oat flour |
| 23:39.37 | elg | man this gnuplot book is really good |
| 23:39.46 | elg | i almost can't wait to finish it just so i can write a glowing review |
| 23:39.52 | levi | Heh. |
| 23:41.27 | elg | i thought i was something of a gnuplot guru. at least relatively speaking. i knew nothing about it, and yet he presents it logically (where gnuplot rarely is) in an easy to read and reference style, perfect blend of tutorial and reference (plus it will apparently have a reference appendix) |
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| 23:42.17 | levi | Nice. |
| 23:42.41 | levi | I should probably get it when it's released, then, because everyone needs to make plots sometime. |
| 23:42.59 | elg | i never would have even bothered to try to do arrows, labels, etc. because it just didn't seem worth the effort, but having read the chapter on decorations I now know exactly what it can and can't do and I know exactly where to go to painlessly perform it |
| 23:43.06 | elg | everyone needs gnuplot skillz |
| 23:43.14 | levi | I also need graphviz skillz. |
| 23:43.16 | elg | well, maybe firefighters don't. |
| 23:43.45 | levi | Oooh, the 2008 ICFP Programming Contest starts tomorrow. |
| 23:44.14 | levi | I still want to go back and do the one from a couple of years ago. |
| 23:44.52 | levi | It was set up as a kind of software archaelogy project. |
| 23:45.09 | elg | i think i recall |
| 23:45.43 | levi | You had to write a virtual machine that would run the binary blob they give you, which would eventually give you a unixoid login prompt. You'd have to log in as guest and hack into other accounts, solving puzzles along the way. |
| 23:46.42 | levi | I got up to the point where you'd get a Zork-style game that you were supposed to write a program to solve. |
| 23:47.13 | levi | You could put on glasses in the game that would change the output of the program to s-expressions or ML-style data. |
| 23:49.11 | levi | It was way cool. |