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| 02:11.11 | goozbach | herlo: amen |
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| 03:33.51 | findlay | haha |
| 03:33.54 | findlay | silly trolls |
| 03:34.18 | findlay | always wanting to take themselves seriously |
| 03:34.24 | findlay | and us to take them seriously |
| 03:34.25 | findlay | don |
| 03:34.55 | findlay | 't they know that the occupation of trolling is merely intended for comic effect? |
| 04:09.07 | Supaplex | hunts down some answers to hiding the cursor after synergy leaves a window of a client (unless it moves on its own later) |
| 04:14.17 | findlay | synergetic autonomous windows? |
| 04:14.36 | findlay | window manager AI |
| 04:14.40 | findlay | WMAI! |
| 04:15.54 | Supaplex | my ibook connects to my linux desktop. when I leave the ibook, it leaves a cursor in the center of the screen. annoying if you're playing a video or something. |
| 04:18.23 | findlay | interesting |
| 04:27.52 | landet | http://linux.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.os.linux.x/2003-09/0112.html |
| 04:27.53 | brac | [comp.os.linux.x: Re: Turn off the X cursor] |
| 04:28.19 | landet | http://linux.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.os.linux.x/2003-09/0107.html |
| 04:28.21 | brac | [comp.os.linux.x: Re: Turn off the X cursor] |
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| 04:35.04 | Supaplex | well, this is a mac osx/synergy issue, not so much bare x11 |
| 04:35.15 | Supaplex | if it were the other way around, it might work. |
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| 04:40.45 | herlo | goozbach: lol |
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| 05:23.01 | tensai | disappears for a week at scout camp |
| 05:23.16 | herlo | poor tensai! |
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| 06:06.37 | Supaplex | happy monday. :) |
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| 06:07.36 | Sargun | Supaplex, bad time zone. |
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| 10:19.33 | Sargun | ~ping |
| 10:19.34 | ibot | pong |
| 10:31.10 | nick125 | Sargun: I thought you went to bed |
| 10:31.17 | Sargun | I woke up |
| 10:31.22 | nick125 | lol |
| 10:31.24 | Sargun | ugh |
| 10:31.30 | Sargun | China team called me |
| 10:31.40 | nick125 | eh? |
| 10:31.53 | Sargun | uhm |
| 10:32.00 | Sargun | long story, I'll explain later |
| 10:32.12 | nick125 | lol |
| 10:33.36 | Supaplex | ETIRED. later folks. |
| 10:51.06 | Sargun | nick125, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvGhEJyfC7U |
| 10:51.25 | Sargun | nick125, I somehow roped myself into becoming the guy who directs the VPN installations worldwide (well, a few offices) |
| 10:51.33 | Sargun | India, China, London, Portland, Texas |
| 10:51.46 | Sargun | So, the China VPN turn up was today. |
| 10:51.51 | Sargun | And I was asleep. |
| 10:51.55 | Sargun | I liked my sleep |
| 10:51.57 | Sargun | They didn't. |
| 10:52.03 | Sargun | They wanted me to be awake |
| 10:52.06 | Sargun | so they called me |
| 10:52.17 | Sargun | a**holes |
| 10:53.59 | Sargun | probes nick125 |
| 11:15.21 | Sargun | YAY! My IGP is at 83 routes. |
| 11:15.35 | Sargun | Once we get the london facility and indian facility in place we'll hit 100. |
| 11:15.57 | Sargun | err. |
| 11:16.17 | Sargun | oh shiz, some of our equipment only supports 128 routes. |
| 12:11.04 | ^Migs^ | hahaha http://pics.nase-bohren.de/macbookcommodorecompare.jpg/1215432378 |
| 12:37.27 | Sargun_screen | this weeks TAL is awesome. |
| 12:43.09 | ^Migs^ | http://dvice.com/archives/2008/07/smokin_and_sear.php |
| 12:43.10 | brac | [DVICE: On Fire: 10 Amazing High-Tech Barbecues] |
| 12:43.36 | Sargun_screen | ooh. bbq! |
| 12:43.42 | Sargun_screen | yay! |
| 12:44.24 | Sargun_screen | Can I have a bbq that doesnt require me to do _anything_ |
| 12:48.28 | ^Migs^ | lol @ iGrill |
| 12:50.45 | Sargun_screen | hey, anybody know of any upper body c-lothing which is sweat proof, cool, and long-sleeved? |
| 12:51.12 | Sargun_screen | basically to handle warm, mosquito-ridden territory |
| 13:03.12 | goozbach | Sargun_screen: get yourself a BDU shirt |
| 13:05.00 | goozbach | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_dress_uniform |
| 13:11.29 | Sargun_screen | Uh.. |
| 13:11.50 | Sargun_screen | Are those atainable by civilians? |
| 13:16.21 | Sargun_screen | is not having a good day. |
| 13:16.30 | Sargun_screen | I fell over on my right ride last night |
| 13:16.44 | Sargun_screen | The right side of my face is hurting...A lot. |
| 13:17.03 | goozbach | Sargun_screen: any army surplus store |
| 13:17.21 | Sargun_screen | I had to stay up all night long supporting the VPN |
| 13:17.44 | Sargun_screen | Hm...BDUs |
| 13:18.12 | Sargun_screen | Other than the awkwards. |
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| 14:38.58 | bonez45 | are there any 'graphic design/artist' types here? I'd like to find someone who uses Adobe tools, to help me create something .. which one would create or could create with Illustrator or InDesign...and instead create it using the Gimp |
| 14:39.57 | Sargun_screen | Good luck. |
| 14:39.59 | Sargun_screen | Have fun. |
| 14:41.29 | bonez45 | Sargun_screen: huh? |
| 14:41.48 | Sargun_screen | With your project. |
| 14:42.46 | bonez45 | oh, thanks...... |
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| 15:22.46 | goozbach | plug jabber server having problems? |
| 15:22.54 | goozbach | or just elg/hans? |
| 15:23.14 | tuple | neither? |
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| 15:23.48 | goozbach | 09:22 <@root> JABBER(goozbach@jabber.plug.org) - Error: Error 503 (fugalh@jabber.plug.org/Adium): Service Unavailable |
| 15:23.51 | goozbach | 09:22 <@root> JABBER(goozbach@jabber.plug.org) - Error: Error 503 (fugalh@jabber.plug.org/Adium): Service Unavailable |
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| 15:29.45 | elg | my internet connection here seems to be annoying. probably killing idle tcp sessions |
| 15:31.29 | Sargun | heheheheh |
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| 15:51.53 | sjansen | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/funny-pictures-cat-wants-its-bottom-buttered.jpg |
| 16:03.12 | sontek | anyone else have their twitter page disappear? :P |
| 16:03.25 | sontek | I can login and use twitter, but no one can go and see my updates online |
| 16:03.32 | sontek | http://twitter.com/sontek isn't there |
| 16:04.41 | sontek | you can search for me and it'll give you a link :P |
| 16:05.03 | findlay | sontek: don't you know twitter and it's proprietary ilk are dead? |
| 16:05.13 | findlay | identi.ca is the way of the Future |
| 16:06.18 | sontek | findlay: identi.ca is a waste until it gets an API and SMS messaging |
| 16:06.38 | sontek | findlay: I'm on there, but its not a viable micro-blogging platform until it gets those 2 things |
| 16:06.56 | sontek | and it wouldn't hurt to clean up their web ui a bit either |
| 16:09.05 | Sargun | Plurk? |
| 16:16.54 | Sargun | I'm really tired. |
| 16:16.57 | Sargun | I want to sleep. |
| 16:17.17 | Sargun | No, I need to sleep. |
| 16:19.37 | nick125 | lol, why didn't you sleep? |
| 16:19.57 | nick125 | you know, like normal people |
| 16:19.59 | Sargun | I explained you. |
| 16:20.06 | Sargun | because of the chinese. |
| 16:20.57 | nick125 | no, you said "long story, I'll explain it later" |
| 16:22.13 | sontek | Sleeping is overrated |
| 16:22.35 | sontek | Sleeping is like anything else, if you put your mind to it, you don't need it! |
| 16:23.04 | Sargun | shutup. |
| 16:28.20 | ^Migs^ | http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb268/dilusi0nal1/3050.jpg |
| 16:30.29 | sjansen | Who needs sleep? No you're never gonna get it. Who needs sleep? Tell me, what's that for? |
| 16:33.52 | Sargun | ~lart sjansen |
| 16:33.52 | ibot | takes a big bite out of sjansen's jugular vein |
| 16:56.49 | ^Migs^ | I just got a beta invite to Camspace (www.camspace.com) and it's pretty cool. I can't figure out how to make it work with anything, though. |
| 16:57.09 | ^Migs^ | you just use your webcam + any object as a controller |
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| 17:10.44 | Sargun | ^Migs^ is showing off his "hot 12 year old bod" to pervs world wide |
| 17:13.41 | ^Migs^ | I think the one thing that YouTube has taught us is that there's nothing wrong with that |
| 17:14.39 | nick125 | uhm |
| 17:15.27 | sontek | Yeah, nobody wants 12yr old boys, its all about little teen girls like Miley Cyrus |
| 17:15.37 | sontek | or her gang name, Hannah Montana |
| 17:16.23 | ^Migs^ | nonsense. I bet I could attract all kinds of pervs! |
| 17:17.28 | sontek | ^Migs^: But you have to have a "catch" |
| 17:17.40 | sontek | ^Migs^: like 12yr old boy sings miley cyrus songs |
| 17:18.26 | nick125 | sounds like plan! |
| 17:18.30 | nick125 | Where do we start? |
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| 17:46.59 | sontek | Did everyone order their openmoko over the holiday weekend? |
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| 18:01.14 | goozbach | annnd the couchcast is broken :( |
| 18:01.30 | sontek | oh noes! |
| 18:01.36 | sontek | how we going to listen to the face?! |
| 18:01.42 | goozbach | no IDEA?! |
| 18:01.52 | goozbach | and it kicked off sjansen too! |
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| 18:01.59 | goozbach | the intertubes are broken |
| 18:02.04 | goozbach | call a plumber! |
| 18:03.18 | findlay | the interplumber? |
| 18:05.49 | goozbach | YAY! I can hear the face! |
| 18:07.33 | goozbach | listen to couchcast |
| 18:07.35 | goozbach | yay! |
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| 18:08.24 | findlay | goozbach: so you keep all your contacts in a raw LDAP database? |
| 18:08.59 | goozbach | findlay: I tried it once. |
| 18:09.05 | goozbach | but I had to stop |
| 18:09.16 | findlay | why? |
| 18:09.20 | goozbach | it was just easier to keep them in my palm database |
| 18:09.26 | findlay | hm |
| 18:09.54 | goozbach | thunderbird keeps track of my email contacts |
| 18:10.04 | goozbach | and my treo keeps track of my phone numbers |
| 18:10.06 | nick125 | doesn't really even use the contacts feature on his Treo |
| 18:10.46 | nick125 | I think I might have...5 contacts |
| 18:11.05 | findlay | goozbach: I guess it's easy that way |
| 18:11.13 | findlay | firefox remembers all the urls I visit |
| 18:11.22 | findlay | gmail remembers all the addresses I use |
| 18:11.41 | findlay | I haven't created a bookmark on purpose since like 1996 |
| 18:12.22 | findlay | s/6/9/ |
| 18:13.03 | nick125 | Let's party like its 1999! *dun* *dun* *dunn* *dun* |
| 18:14.41 | spr | Next Year: The Red Conference |
| 18:15.10 | nick125 | *dun* *dun* *dunnn* *dun |
| 18:15.12 | nick125 | er |
| 18:15.13 | nick125 | *dun* |
| 18:21.58 | goozbach | YAY! jayce! |
| 18:34.30 | Sargun | Alright, only 5.5 hours eft of this? |
| 18:34.51 | nick125 | mmm |
| 18:45.21 | sjansen | Neato. This training center has cookies _and_ brownies in the afternoon. |
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| 18:54.09 | unum_ | Remember that if it hadn't been for help of the French in the Revolutionary War, the US would be speaking English today. |
| 18:54.31 | goozbach | http://paintballsentry.com -- url explains it all |
| 18:55.03 | macnewbold | interesting |
| 18:55.39 | goozbach | the videos are awesome |
| 18:55.48 | goozbach | Jayce^: good job on the couchcast |
| 19:04.59 | Jayce^ | goozbach, thanks |
| 19:18.40 | redbeard2 | i have a package that i'm trying to install from source under ubuntu, and ./configure is dying with "gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4.0" |
| 19:18.43 | redbeard2 | does anybody know what gtk+-2.0 is called in ubuntu? |
| 19:21.46 | jnbek | libgtk2? |
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| 19:22.54 | jnbek | redbeard2: libgtk2.0-0 |
| 19:23.20 | Midorikawa|Psych | got a question, anyone know any ISPs in the Orem area? I've had it with qwest. |
| 19:23.52 | nick125 | Midorikawa|Psych: You don't have many non-Qwest options...you've got comcast, fiber (if available) or wireless. |
| 19:24.06 | Midorikawa|Psych | d'oh. |
| 19:24.14 | Midorikawa|Psych | comcast can't decide if they've run a line here or not |
| 19:24.21 | nick125 | ouch |
| 19:24.25 | Midorikawa|Psych | and wireless is going to be useless since I own a condo partially underground. |
| 19:24.33 | Midorikawa|Psych | ...and since I'm in a condo xmission isn't here. |
| 19:24.44 | nick125 | You could put up a tower to get wireless |
| 19:24.50 | nick125 | It's quite expensive, though. |
| 19:25.04 | Midorikawa|Psych | not in a condo park I can't. :-/ |
| 19:26.32 | Sargun | Whoa |
| 19:26.41 | Sargun | What's up with the nutty nickname? |
| 19:27.01 | Midorikawa|Psych | it's |Psychosis on other nets |
| 19:27.07 | Midorikawa|Psych | ...which is the computer name. |
| 19:27.08 | Midorikawa|Psych | heh |
| 19:27.36 | jnbek | Psych!!!! |
| 19:28.14 | Midorikawa | lets me have my laptop and the desktop online at the same time |
| 19:28.26 | sontek | redbeard2: You are going to want to get the devel package |
| 19:28.31 | nick125 | *cough* screen *cough* |
| 19:28.44 | sontek | redbeard2: if the package is in the repos, and you just want to build from svn, apt supports grabbing all devel packages |
| 19:29.05 | redbeard2 | sontek: the package i want to install is http://sourceforge.net/projects/lives/ |
| 19:29.05 | sontek | redbeard2: something like apt-get builddep <package> |
| 19:29.08 | brac | [SourceForge.net: LiVES] |
| 19:29.10 | redbeard2 | i can't find it in any repos |
| 19:29.23 | sontek | ahh, yeah, so just look for gtk with -devel at the end |
| 19:29.25 | sontek | thats what you'll want |
| 19:29.36 | Midorikawa | nick125, I could, yes, but that doesn't give me GUI access. I run an irc net, so I keep xchat-aqua running here logging all chat on the net I admin. it's just easier to do it this way on a mac I suppose |
| 19:31.41 | nick125 | GUI shmuy |
| 19:31.47 | Midorikawa | heh |
| 19:32.09 | redbeard2 | sontek: looks like it's -dev, not -devel. we'll see if it works. |
| 19:33.39 | sontek | ahh, yeah, I use suse :[ |
| 19:35.49 | Jayce^ | that would make me frown too |
| 19:36.12 | Midorikawa | wow. I haven't used SuSE since 8 was brand new. heh. |
| 19:36.32 | Midorikawa | haven't touched it since 9 went overzealous with rm one day. |
| 19:37.08 | Midorikawa | although it was fun watching YaST remove the kernel, /bin, itself then try to reboot the computer. |
| 19:37.15 | nick125 | haha |
| 19:37.55 | Midorikawa | wasn't fun knowing it was my work computer and I had a report saved on that drive that I had to turn in in 10 minutes. heh. |
| 19:38.20 | nick125 | debates on going into the "that's why you don't use SuSE" rant...but decides not to |
| 19:38.27 | jnbek | lol |
| 19:38.35 | Midorikawa | nick125, I learned my lesson. :-P |
| 19:38.38 | Midorikawa | I was young and stupid back then. |
| 19:38.39 | jnbek | FreeBSD ftw !! |
| 19:38.46 | Midorikawa | hits jnbek with a gentoo cd |
| 19:38.50 | nick125 | jnbek: Depends on what you're doing. |
| 19:38.57 | nick125 | FBSD is okay for servers, but for desktop...oh god |
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| 19:39.13 | nick125 | You might as well jab a fork in your eye |
| 19:39.20 | Midorikawa | haha |
| 19:40.00 | jnbek | hehe, flash is the only thing that irks me about fbsd on the desktop really, but anymore that's a pretty big irk... |
| 19:40.24 | nick125 | I used to run FBSD on my desktop...and one day I decided to upgrade firefox...which upgraded GTK, glib, xorg, etc, subsequentially breaking linking....so I'd recompile those libraries, and it would break something else, recompile those libraries, and something else would break. FBSD didn't have anything like revdep-rebuild back then. |
| 19:41.14 | nick125 | Of course, I had a paper due the next day...so I whipped out my Tungsten T5 and IR keyboard... |
| 19:41.30 | Midorikawa | haha. nice. |
| 19:41.32 | nick125 | then went down to kinkos with an SD card reader |
| 19:41.50 | Midorikawa | I miss having my router though *glares at jnbek* :-P |
| 19:42.06 | Midorikawa | would let me drop gentoo on this mac pro and quit using it as an irc server. :-P |
| 19:42.14 | jnbek | runs off to the office all sly and fast |
| 19:42.23 | Midorikawa | trips jnbek |
| 19:42.35 | nick125 | Midorikawa: You should just get a normal server :P |
| 19:42.46 | nick125 | Get an old Xeon off of ebay, throw Gentoo on that |
| 19:42.48 | jnbek | it's sitting here half done... |
| 19:42.54 | Midorikawa | nick125, I'm cheap |
| 19:43.01 | nick125 | Midorikawa: Bleh, me too. |
| 19:43.04 | Midorikawa | I'm using a K6-2 for routing/irc I got for free. |
| 19:43.07 | nick125 | That's why my server is a 2.6ghz celery |
| 19:43.15 | Midorikawa | or I was until I sent it to jnbek a year and a half ago |
| 19:43.22 | nick125 | hahah |
| 19:43.51 | Midorikawa | I've been stuck using consumer routers ever since *retch* |
| 19:43.59 | nick125 | Midorikawa: But yeah, as to your internets problem, you're going to have a hard time finding an ISP that'll allow you to run a server without paying loads of cash. |
| 19:44.16 | Midorikawa | they don't have to know about the server |
| 19:44.22 | Midorikawa | it's not a very high traffic network |
| 19:44.49 | Midorikawa | my bittorrent habits put more of a strain on the network than my irc server does. |
| 19:44.58 | nick125 | dynamic IPs reck havoc on IRC networks |
| 19:45.04 | Midorikawa | I know |
| 19:45.16 | Midorikawa | I get a new IP every time I sneeze next to my modem. |
| 19:45.35 | nick125 | So, what's your issue with Qwest? |
| 19:45.55 | Midorikawa | well, high latency |
| 19:46.16 | Midorikawa | it's never less than 1 second round trip. makes online gaming useless |
| 19:46.20 | nick125 | You could try to get them to take interleaving off your line...it's hard, though. |
| 19:46.22 | nick125 | ouch |
| 19:46.24 | nick125 | That's really bad. |
| 19:46.28 | nick125 | Got a traceroute? |
| 19:46.35 | maquis | hasn't had trouble with comcast so far |
| 19:46.42 | maquis | been running for > 1 year on the same IP |
| 19:46.45 | Midorikawa | I've been fighting with them. half the techs don't know what interleaving is, the other half can't tell the difference between latency and speed. |
| 19:47.10 | nick125 | Midorikawa: Ask for an American agent when you call. |
| 19:47.15 | Midorikawa | nick125, of course I have a traceroute. I worked for a cable co for a year and a half before taking a job with bluehost. heh. |
| 19:47.19 | Midorikawa | nick125, that's hit and miss |
| 19:47.27 | Midorikawa | first lady left me on hold for 20 minutes until I gave up |
| 19:47.54 | nick125 | They never gave me issues with it |
| 19:48.05 | Midorikawa | the last rep refused to put me through to an american rep |
| 19:48.07 | Midorikawa | then hung up on me. |
| 19:48.15 | nick125 | Either that, or ask for an agent that speaks English as a first language (I believe that's the way you put it..) |
| 19:48.27 | Midorikawa | I do. |
| 19:48.37 | Midorikawa | that's how I got left on hold and then hung up on on call number 5 |
| 19:49.22 | nick125 | Midorikawa: Where's the latency at? Between you and the first hop or somewhere in Qwest's network? |
| 19:49.35 | Midorikawa | first hop. |
| 19:49.46 | Midorikawa | 1 slkc-dsl-gw34-226 (67.41.239.226) 33.872 ms 33.396 ms 33.421 ms |
| 19:49.58 | Midorikawa | there's another huge jump on hop 3 |
| 19:50.05 | Midorikawa | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.05 | Midorikawa | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.08 | nick125 | 33ms to first hop isn't bad. |
| 19:50.23 | Midorikawa | from what I've read it should be 25 or so ms. |
| 19:50.30 | Midorikawa | 30+ means interleave is on, right? |
| 19:50.33 | nick125 | interleaving adds 32ms on average |
| 19:50.35 | nick125 | yeah |
| 19:50.54 | nick125 | That doesn't always work though....for instance, I get 23ms to first hop with interleaving on. |
| 19:51.38 | Midorikawa | true |
| 19:51.58 | Midorikawa | but still, when it's taking 100ms to get to google at 9 hops away |
| 19:52.10 | Midorikawa | it's useless for me to try to use online gaming |
| 19:52.24 | Midorikawa | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:54.06 | nick125 | does a traceroute to that, just for kicks |
| 19:54.53 | nick125 | If I had to guess, that looks like a European google server. *shrugs* |
| 19:55.14 | nick125 | Either that, or hop #8 here is lying |
| 19:55.15 | nick125 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.15 | Midorikawa | still. that was with that 88 ms jump on hop 3 |
| 19:55.44 | nick125 | Yeah, 50ms between hops isn't good.. |
| 19:55.51 | Midorikawa | yeah |
| 19:56.10 | nick125 | I mean, the traffic *is* going from UT to NYC, it appears. |
| 19:56.12 | findlay | maybe you should try skipping instead of hopping |
| 19:56.44 | Midorikawa | but 50ms for that? I mean it's only 3,000 miles. :-P |
| 19:56.54 | nick125 | haha |
| 19:58.35 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | Jayce^ has cast the Couch |
| 20:00.12 | findlay | there goes sjansen, refactoring the topic |
| 20:02.45 | Jayce^ | but what did I cast it as? |
| 20:02.56 | Jayce^ | or at? :) |
| 20:03.00 | Sargun | 50MS! |
| 20:03.25 | Midorikawa | splices off of Sargun's line for internet then goes to bed |
| 20:03.45 | Midorikawa | I was going to go to bed early and get stuff done before work tonight. that didn't happen. >:-O |
| 20:04.01 | Sargun | Midorikawa, I'm getting FiOS soon |
| 20:04.02 | Sargun | Ha. |
| 20:04.12 | Midorikawa | Sargun, send it my way! |
| 20:04.16 | findlay | already has iProvo, haha |
| 20:04.17 | Sargun | no |
| 20:04.23 | Midorikawa | >:-O |
| 20:04.30 | Sargun | findlay, ping digg.com |
| 20:04.34 | Midorikawa | I need some internets! |
| 20:04.52 | findlay | 64 bytes from digg.com (64.191.203.30): icmp_seq=1 ttl=246 time=28.5 ms |
| 20:05.07 | Sargun | From the office: |
| 20:05.08 | Sargun | PING digg.com (64.191.203.30) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 20:05.08 | Sargun | 64 bytes from digg.com (64.191.203.30): icmp_seq=1 ttl=253 time=2.58 ms |
| 20:05.08 | Sargun | 64 bytes from digg.com (64.191.203.30): icmp_seq=2 ttl=253 time=2.40 ms |
| 20:05.08 | Sargun | 64 bytes from digg.com (64.191.203.30): icmp_seq=3 ttl=253 time=2.13 ms |
| 20:05.08 | Sargun | 64 bytes from digg.com (64.191.203.30): icmp_seq=4 ttl=253 time=2.35 ms |
| 20:05.09 | Sargun | --- digg.com ping statistics --- |
| 20:05.13 | Midorikawa | meh. I'd have never bought this condo if I knew it was stuck in the 20th century for internet. |
| 20:05.13 | Sargun | 4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3001ms |
| 20:05.15 | Sargun | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 2.130/2.368/2.584/0.165 ms |
| 20:05.16 | Midorikawa | O_O |
| 20:05.21 | nick125 | 64 bytes from digg.com (64.191.203.30): icmp_seq=3 ttl=246 time=71.1 ms |
| 20:05.21 | Midorikawa | 2ms to digg? |
| 20:05.35 | Midorikawa | I take it they have a colo or host at your center? |
| 20:05.56 | findlay | 64 bytes from localhost (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.026 ms |
| 20:06.03 | Sargun | Midorikawa, Yeah. |
| 20:06.03 | findlay | beat that |
| 20:06.09 | Sargun | findlay, die. |
| 20:06.13 | Midorikawa | hahaha |
| 20:06.19 | findlay | does that mean I win? |
| 20:06.21 | Midorikawa | O_o |
| 20:06.25 | Midorikawa | that ping to digg wasn't half bad |
| 20:06.26 | Midorikawa | 64 bytes from 64.191.203.30: icmp_seq=0 ttl=249 time=51.432 ms |
| 20:06.31 | Midorikawa | odd. |
| 20:06.45 | Midorikawa | everything else has been slow as hell, and even digg hasn't been responding fast recently |
| 20:06.48 | nick125 | Yeah, my latency sucks because my ISP is retarded and uses sprintlink |
| 20:07.09 | Midorikawa | man I miss working for ye olde ISP |
| 20:07.15 | Midorikawa | meant I always had a nice line at home. |
| 20:07.29 | Sargun | From my crappy DSL line: |
| 20:07.33 | nick125 | So, instead of sending it to twtelecom which has equipment locally and like 3ms latency to them, they send it through sprintlink, which sends the traffic 700 miles to Anaheim, CA. |
| 20:07.35 | Sargun | --- digg.com ping statistics --- |
| 20:07.35 | Sargun | 4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3000ms |
| 20:07.35 | Sargun | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 16.792/18.785/23.029/2.486 ms |
| 20:07.54 | Midorikawa | wowie. |
| 20:08.02 | Midorikawa | O_o |
| 20:08.07 | Sargun | Ha. |
| 20:08.09 | Sargun | HAHAH |
| 20:08.10 | Sargun | HA |
| 20:08.17 | Midorikawa | and I thought my dsl was useless. |
| 20:08.22 | Sargun | My ISP's CEO even personally emails me when I complain. |
| 20:08.34 | Midorikawa | heh. I keep getting pwned in UT3, and halo 3. it's driving me nuts. |
| 20:08.38 | Sargun | He's like: Sargun, I love you. |
| 20:08.50 | Midorikawa | who's your isp? |
| 20:08.50 | Sargun | I'm like, Dane, you're pretty cool too. Not quite love. |
| 20:09.13 | Sargun | sonic.net |
| 20:10.31 | Midorikawa | heh. they're out of cali? |
| 20:10.46 | nick125 | http://www.badoozie.com/2008/06/14/20-creative-ways-to-get-fired-from-your-day-job.html |
| 20:11.03 | Sargun | --- yahoo.com ping statistics --- |
| 20:11.03 | Sargun | 4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 2999ms |
| 20:11.03 | Sargun | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 15.427/17.026/20.530/2.079 ms |
| 20:11.24 | nick125 | 64 bytes from w2.rc.vip.re4.yahoo.com (206.190.60.37): icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=94.0 ms |
| 20:11.32 | Midorikawa | yeah, with pings like that it's no wonder. :-P |
| 20:11.54 | Sargun | ouch.... |
| 20:12.01 | Sargun | I feel bad for you nick125 |
| 20:12.31 | nick125 | Yeah, I need to yell at my ISP |
| 20:12.33 | findlay | poor nick125 |
| 20:12.35 | nick125 | and get them to drop Sprintlink |
| 20:12.39 | Midorikawa | heh |
| 20:12.41 | Midorikawa | eww |
| 20:13.05 | nick125 | They're like "well, you get a bigger connection through Sprintlink" |
| 20:13.10 | nick125 | I'm like "uh..wtf?" |
| 20:13.31 | findlay | nick125: don't you realize that packets travel at the speed of light and it doesn't matter where the isp's equipment is at since light can travel around the world 7 times in an instant? |
| 20:13.53 | Midorikawa | I thought everyone knew that! :-P |
| 20:14.00 | nick125 | findlay: The only problem is that it's 40ms to Anaheim, CA, which completely blows my good first hop latency |
| 20:14.27 | findlay | 40ms is really fast |
| 20:14.39 | Sargun | ~lart findlay |
| 20:14.39 | ibot | follow's findlay with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION |
| 20:14.43 | nick125 | right, but it's not as good as the 3ms to twtelecom |
| 20:14.47 | findlay | compared to how long it takes to walk to the TV |
| 20:14.51 | Sargun | that wasn't very good. |
| 20:14.52 | Sargun | ~lart findlay |
| 20:14.52 | ibot | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets findlay feel it |
| 20:15.02 | Sargun | Much better |
| 20:15.09 | findlay | ~aol Sargun |
| 20:15.10 | ibot | ACTION hits Sargun with a free America Online CD until he dies |
| 20:15.11 | Midorikawa | heh. wouldn't an aol cd explode long before that? |
| 20:16.05 | findlay | ~explode aol |
| 20:16.06 | ibot | ACTION blows up aol with bombs |
| 20:16.10 | findlay | ~asplode aol |
| 20:16.11 | ibot | aol head asplode, k thx |
| 20:32.13 | findlay | yahoo groups makes me feel ill |
| 20:42.56 | sjansen | After a rapidly scuttled attempt at Fortran, [Thompson] created instead a language of his own, which he called B. B can be thought of as C without types; more accurately, it is BCPL squeezed into 8K bytes of memory and filtered through Thompson's brain. Its name most probably represents a contraction of BCPL, though an alternate theory holds that it derives from Bon [Thompson 69], an unrelated language created by Thompson during the Multics da |
| 20:42.56 | sjansen | ys. Bon in turn was named either after his wife Bonnie, or (according to an encyclopedia quotation in its manual), after a religion whose rituals involve the murmuring of magic formulas. |
| 20:48.48 | findlay | sjansen: I think you'll find related prophecy in Leviticus |
| 20:53.03 | *** part/#utah bonez45 (n=scott@mail.FYRENICE.COM) |
| 20:54.19 | *** join/#utah Midorikawa (n=Midor1ka@75-169-234-206.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 20:58.06 | sjansen | discovers that C is capable of greater evil than he previously suspected |
| 20:58.32 | sinuhe` | sjansen: C is capable of any good or evil you put it to, but more likely evil if care is not taken. |
| 20:59.25 | sjansen | int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { |
| 20:59.25 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:59.25 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:59.25 | sjansen | } |
| 21:00.11 | sjansen | sinuhe`: Until today I was not sufficiently evil to even consider the above might be possible. |
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| 21:03.46 | Tene | sjansen: what would you have thought that would do? |
| 21:04.08 | Tene | sjansen: what would you think that would compile to? |
| 21:04.27 | sjansen | I didn't think the parser would accept it. |
| 21:04.34 | Tene | Oh. Why not? |
| 21:04.47 | sontek | :( |
| 21:05.07 | Tene | So your surprise here is that += isn't special? |
| 21:05.09 | sjansen | Assigning new vaues to variables in an expression seems blatantly evil. |
| 21:06.20 | Tene | C doesn't go out of its way to add restrictions to what you can compile. |
| 21:07.33 | Tene | perl -e '$a=5; print $a+=10' |
| 21:07.53 | Tene | Python throws a syntax error, though. |
| 21:08.26 | Tene | ruby accepts that and does as requested. |
| 21:08.46 | Tene | sjansen: What's evil about it? Surely you've used ++ before. |
| 21:11.54 | unum | I thought a+=3 would return true not 9 |
| 21:13.33 | Tene | Oh, python doesn't have ++, apparently. |
| 21:14.05 | unum | really? |
| 21:14.19 | unum | I would have thought that I would remember that.... |
| 21:14.42 | unum | actually now I think about it a little longer I think I do remember that. it was really odd |
| 21:18.58 | sjansen | int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { |
| 21:18.58 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.59 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.59 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.59 | sjansen | } |
| 21:19.09 | sjansen | Tene: Can you predict the output of the second printf? |
| 21:21.01 | unum | 25? |
| 21:22.03 | sjansen | $ ./a.out |
| 21:22.03 | sjansen | 24 9 15 |
| 21:22.03 | sjansen | 624 |
| 21:23.19 | sjansen | 9+15+30*20 |
| 21:28.09 | decriptor | sjansen: so I found out the other day that there is a group in novell that is heavily using kvm |
| 21:28.51 | sjansen | decriptor: I'll be interested to learn more in about 30 minutes. |
| 21:34.03 | sontek | decriptor: their main kernel devs are pushing it over xen |
| 21:34.16 | sontek | decriptor: so that "group" is also using it heavily |
| 21:34.35 | decriptor | sontek: that's not the group that I was thinking about |
| 21:36.19 | sontek | GKH gets a stiffy when he talks about KVM |
| 21:39.22 | decriptor | sontek: didn't need to know that |
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| 21:46.45 | *** part/#utah |phoenyx| (n=|phoenyx@ip65-44-121-9.z121-44-65.customer.algx.net) |
| 21:58.33 | *** join/#utah sjansen (n=sjansen@p1125.clients.superclick.com) |
| 21:58.47 | sjansen | decriptor: Do tell. |
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| 22:08.14 | sjansen | decriptor: What is the Novell group using KVM for? |
| 22:10.33 | *** join/#utah tvc123 (i=trent@fslc.usu.edu) |
| 22:11.35 | sontek | sjansen: Greg Kroah-Hartman, the lead kernel dev loves KVM, not sure what they use it for, but hes been pushing it over xen |
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| 22:22.24 | decriptor | sjansen: I have to wait about a week or 2 to mention it I think |
| 22:22.39 | decriptor | but its a critical part to this thing they are putting together |
| 22:26.40 | decriptor | sjansen: I know that's lame, sorry |
| 22:40.07 | Heartsbane | I am sure sjansen doesn't think so |
| 22:46.09 | sontek | sjansen doesn't think anything is lame, hes a very logical and level headed individual! |
| 22:52.57 | Sargun | Yay for Endianness |
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| 23:31.29 | decriptor | OBS is freakin' awesome |
| 23:32.05 | Sargun | OBS? |
| 23:33.32 | decriptor | Sargun: openSUSE Build Service |
| 23:50.10 | sontek | its true |
| 23:50.23 | sontek | but anything that starts with openSUSE is ;) |
| 23:50.36 | Sargun | Terrible |
| 23:54.47 | sontek | I love webkit |
| 23:54.49 | sontek | <3 <3 |
| 23:56.17 | nick125 | I love ZODB |
| 23:56.26 | nick125 | Sing with me, folks! |
| 23:57.36 | Supaplex | -excuse |
| 23:57.36 | brac | Your/our computer(s) had suffered a memory leak, and we are waiting for them to be topped up. |
| 23:59.45 | encryptz | sontek: webkit is nice. if only mozilla would ditch gecko, and switch to it. or at least give you the option to choose a different rendering engine, if one is available |
