| 00:03.01 | Sargun | http://www.hulu.com/watch/24921/30-days-same-sex-parenting |
| 00:03.04 | Sargun | go to 20 minutes |
| 00:05.49 | Sargun | what do you guys think about Gay Rights? |
| 00:09.58 | sinuhe | Sargun: In what respect? |
| 00:10.20 | Sargun | Do you think that Gay Couples should be allowed to mary? |
| 00:12.26 | sinuhe | Define marry? |
| 00:12.30 | sinuhe | s/?/./ |
| 00:13.04 | Sargun | err, yeah |
| 00:13.23 | Sargun | Uhm, a legal marriage certificate, signed by an authority |
| 00:13.33 | Sargun | receiving a fair rights from authority. |
| 00:14.04 | sinuhe | Under the law, same-sex partners should be granted inheritance |
| 00:14.04 | sinuhe | rights, rights of medical visitation and decision making, and rights |
| 00:14.04 | sinuhe | to the guardianship of the children of a partner when that is the |
| 00:14.05 | sinuhe | clear will of the parent (legal guardian) and child, and as long |
| 00:14.09 | sinuhe | as it is not against the best interests of the child. |
| 00:14.13 | sinuhe | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:14.17 | sinuhe | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:14.21 | sinuhe | of individuals in whatever form of relationship they choose. |
| 00:14.38 | sinuhe | Having said that, no, same gender partners should not be allow to be recognized as married by the State. |
| 00:14.53 | Sargun | Hmm. |
| 00:14.53 | sinuhe | Hence my question of what do you mean by "marry" |
| 00:15.13 | Sargun | Why don't you think the state should recognize it? |
| 00:21.39 | sinuhe | I take issue with sexual politics. |
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| 00:27.23 | sinuhe | The more important question is whether marriage should be recognized at all by the State. |
| 00:35.18 | sinuhe | Sargun: Why do you ask? |
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| 06:54.34 | Sargun | Do you think I could run an experiment on about 300 LDSes |
| 06:54.36 | Sargun | er |
| 06:54.38 | Sargun | LDS |
| 06:54.44 | Sargun | Mormons. |
| 06:55.23 | Sargun | and it would be easy to find a test group. |
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| 14:22.07 | bonez45 | it's a quiet Saturday |
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| 15:03.22 | elg | -chat the fourth |
| 15:03.23 | brac | the fourth time |
| 15:03.29 | elg | -chat on the |
| 15:03.30 | brac | on the filename) that gcc wouldn't complain about my project (still no spec) in ruby |
| 15:03.45 | elg | -chat is thayne |
| 15:03.46 | brac | but chat is it |
| 15:03.46 | brac | is thayne |
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| 16:01.12 | bonez45 | do either of you use a service like efax.com's fax service? |
| 16:01.40 | bonez45 | I have used efax a long time.. it's pretty reliable...just curious if there is anything else like this out there.. that could save me a bit on the faxing charges.. |
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| 21:42.34 | sontek | are there any beaches that you can go swimming at in Utah? |
| 21:42.40 | sontek | I heard maybe at echo resevoir? |
| 21:44.00 | herlo | sontek: deer creek |
| 21:44.05 | herlo | strawberry |
| 21:44.17 | herlo | others... |
| 21:44.59 | sontek | I didn't know you could swim at strawberry, thats not to far away |
| 21:45.15 | sontek | only place I've been is bear lake and thats to far |
| 21:46.00 | herlo | sontek: you can pretty much swim at any lake |
| 21:46.09 | herlo | strawberry is further than deer creek is |
| 21:46.45 | herlo | most of them have good beaches, you might also consider willard bay and pineview as well |
| 21:47.33 | sontek | where are those? |
| 21:48.15 | herlo | willard is up just past ogden, pineview is up ogden canyon IIRC |
| 21:48.50 | sontek | i'll look them up, the closet one i've found so far is hyrum |
| 21:52.55 | sontek | pineview doesn't look bad, cemetery point as a beach you can swim at |
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| 22:31.58 | Heartsbane | sontek: ya if it wasn't filled with tiger muskey, keep it tucked in, those things go after ducks |
| 22:32.23 | Heartsbane | and they have teeth |
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| 23:27.11 | Sargun | Isn't utah a desert of sorts |
| 23:27.58 | lakshmi | yes |
| 23:45.52 | findlay | hello |
| 23:45.59 | Sargun | ~lart findlay |
| 23:45.59 | ibot | flings poo at findlay |
| 23:46.01 | Sargun | hello findlay |
| 23:46.21 | findlay | most of Utah is in the great basin, which is a classically defined desert |
| 23:47.06 | findlay | however large areas of the state are quite high in altitude and they are covered by a completely different biome |
| 23:48.57 | findlay | I believe the term is boreal forest, which is to say, a coniferous forest |
| 23:49.16 | findlay | that is quite interesting since desert and forest biomes are opposite |
| 23:53.19 | findlay | other similar deserts of the southwest include the saguaro, mohave, and sonoran |
| 23:53.29 | findlay | and baja, evidently |
| 23:53.36 | findlay | duh |
| 23:53.42 | findlay | s/saguaro, // |
| 23:54.47 | findlay | see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_deserts |