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| 01:11.57 | Sargun_screen | My train hit someone. |
| 01:12.02 | Sargun_screen | That's the latest update. |
| 01:12.14 | RazberrieTart | ! |
| 01:12.38 | Sargun_screen | RazberrieTart: Apparently it wasn't you. |
| 01:13.17 | nick125 | Sargun_screen: ouch |
| 01:13.39 | nick125 | I just hope they don't shutdown the trains there like they did here after a few people got hit |
| 01:13.46 | Sargun_screen | Freaking idiots. |
| 01:13.50 | Sargun_screen | Get off the fscking tracks. |
| 01:14.19 | nick125 | If your car stalls out or something over the tracks, GET THE HECK OUT OF THE CAR |
| 01:14.27 | Sargun_screen | haha |
| 01:14.28 | Sargun_screen | yeah |
| 01:15.53 | Sargun_screen | ugh |
| 01:18.25 | RazberrieTart | Nope, not me |
| 01:18.29 | RazberrieTart | and I don't have a car anyway |
| 01:18.31 | RazberrieTart | So I'm good. |
| 01:18.35 | levi | No car?! |
| 01:19.12 | levi | Sometimes I wish I didn't have a car. I don't have a car payment, but I still have to budget about $300/mo to pay all the car-related expenses for the year. |
| 01:19.44 | pirate| | levi: wow, that much a month as a plan? Your car must brake down a lot. |
| 01:20.19 | RazberrieTart | Nope |
| 01:20.23 | RazberrieTart | can't drive. |
| 01:21.20 | findlay | ~drive RazberrieTart |
| 01:21.21 | ibot | ACTION jumps behind the wheel of a specially designed limo & chauffeurs RazberrieTart anywhere he/she needs to go, while RazberrieTart sits in the back playing bzflag |
| 01:21.51 | Sargun_screen | Ha |
| 01:21.52 | RazberrieTart | ilu ibot |
| 01:21.58 | Sargun_screen | The VZW user has a disconnect |
| 01:22.01 | Sargun_screen | and their connection died. |
| 01:22.05 | Sargun_screen | so did the Tmobile user |
| 01:22.07 | Sargun_screen | Hahahah |
| 01:22.08 | Sargun_screen | MUAHAHAH |
| 01:22.14 | levi | pirate|: No, I just have 3 vehicles, and gas is expensive. |
| 01:23.34 | levi | pirate|: That includes gas, inspection and registration fees, oil changes, and savings for other regular maintenance items and a repair budget for unexpected repairs. |
| 01:36.36 | Sargun_screen | dances |
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| 01:49.42 | nick125 | trips Sargun_screen |
| 01:52.05 | Sargun_screen | Screw you. |
| 01:52.06 | Sargun_screen | DIE |
| 01:58.43 | levi | pirate|: Also insurance. |
| 02:27.41 | levi | RazberrieTart: How do you get around? Live downtown? |
| 02:29.00 | levi | Geez, that Spring commercial about the 'biggest product placement movie of the year' grates on my nerves. |
| 02:29.18 | RazberrieTart | levi: bus, if I have to get anywhere outside of walking distance. |
| 02:29.37 | RazberrieTart | But I 'really' don't go out all that much .... the outside world is scary :D |
| 02:30.46 | levi | It'd take me 20-30 minutes of bicycling plus a 20 minute bus ride to get to work. Haven't tried it yet, though. |
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| 02:57.22 | levi | Hah, Supreme Court Justice Roberts quoted Bob Dylan in a recent dissent. |
| 02:57.32 | levi | "When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose" |
| 02:59.10 | RazberrieTart | heh |
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| 04:31.52 | elg | so apparently when the brits say leftenant, they spell lieutenant |
| 04:32.00 | elg | and here i thought it was a different rank |
| 04:38.11 | sinuhe | elg: "Lef" is the proper French and Middle English pronounciations of lieutenenant. The Americans have it wrong. I stubbornly use the Middle English, except around my wife, who is 12 year military. :-) |
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| 05:56.32 | findlay | the house across the street is burning down |
| 05:56.40 | findlay | just FYI |
| 05:56.49 | findlay | in case anyone cared |
| 05:57.26 | beast | the people across the street care... |
| 05:57.41 | findlay | smells like a campfire |
| 05:58.13 | findlay | there's like 4 cop cars and 3 various fire vehicles already converged |
| 05:58.30 | findlay | besides the bunch of college kids out being entertained |
| 05:59.25 | beast | are the college kids making smores? |
| 05:59.37 | findlay | probably not at this point |
| 05:59.51 | findlay | now that they're pumping anti fire stuff on it |
| 06:01.44 | findlay | good reminder |
| 06:01.52 | findlay | a fire can break out at any time |
| 06:02.37 | findlay | you should not only be prepared for emergency, but also keep your electrical systems and gas and building stuff up to code |
| 06:03.18 | jnbek | or coding stuff up to build... |
| 06:04.05 | findlay | why should fire be so special? It's just a random chemical phenomenon |
| 06:04.25 | findlay | yet Aristotle elevated it to the status of 'element' |
| 06:04.43 | nick125 | sets findlay on fire |
| 06:05.18 | findlay | it's like a plasma, I guess |
| 06:05.23 | findlay | plasma is diamagnetic |
| 06:05.53 | findlay | which is why they use high power mag fields in fusion generators |
| 06:06.10 | jnbek | either way, i consumes all, yet generates energies to be consumed... |
| 06:07.03 | findlay | I blame oxygen |
| 06:07.42 | jnbek | good blamage i thus concur |
| 06:08.30 | findlay | if it weren't so go and grab covalent bonds everywhere the world would be a much safer place |
| 06:08.41 | findlay | s/so/so impetuous to/ |
| 06:11.52 | jnbek | ahh, who needs safety, danger is where all the fun is |
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| 07:51.25 | sontek | Hey, i'm writing a Windows Hater blog in response to Linux Hater |
| 07:51.26 | sontek | can you guys review it? |
| 07:51.33 | Tene | sure |
| 07:51.40 | sontek | not that I hate Windows, but I thought it'd be fun |
| 07:51.57 | Tene | give me a link |
| 07:52.53 | sontek | http://blog.sontek.net/?p=41&preview=true can you see that without being logged in? |
| 07:53.14 | Tene | no |
| 07:53.24 | Tene | "Sorry, no posts matched your criteria." |
| 07:54.16 | sontek | i'll publish it, give you link, and then remove it so rss feeds don't get it :P |
| 07:54.46 | sontek | http://blog.sontek.net/2008/07/01/windows-hater-in-response-to-linux-hater/ |
| 07:55.20 | sontek | oh, "Pending Review" might work |
| 07:55.23 | sontek | try that |
| 07:57.14 | Tene | eh, sounds kind of like it's not going anywhere. |
| 07:57.18 | Tene | and then it just ends. |
| 07:58.30 | sontek | yeah, I'm trying to think of an ending right now |
| 07:58.40 | sontek | I think i'm just going to wrap it with talking about what Linux does well |
| 07:59.03 | sontek | which is everything I listed as windows not doing well |
| 08:40.16 | Sargun | The internet is not just for porn |
| 08:40.18 | Sargun | FUFEjfdwaidjwadwad |
| 08:40.20 | Sargun | I think |
| 08:40.24 | Sargun | Today was a very bad day. |
| 08:40.51 | RazberrieTart | Yes it was. |
| 08:42.18 | Sargun | RazberrieTart, Meh. |
| 08:42.26 | Sargun | A typical #utah response, making fun of me. |
| 08:43.29 | RazberrieTart | Sargun: um, ok. |
| 08:43.35 | RazberrieTart | um .. |
| 08:43.37 | sontek | Sargun: The Internet wasn't designed for porn, but porn definitely pushed it to it limits |
| 08:43.46 | Sargun | True that. |
| 08:44.01 | RazberrieTart | Sorry, can't come up with anything scathingly humorous at the monment in which your ego takes a dive and I therefore fasely inflate my own sense of greatness. |
| 08:45.05 | Sargun | I hate my sister |
| 08:45.29 | Sargun | Alright |
| 08:45.34 | Sargun | Where can I get a free shower |
| 08:45.41 | Sargun | and free bathrooms at this time of night? |
| 08:46.11 | Sargun | I'm getting Camera surveillance. |
| 08:53.21 | sontek | Sargun: 24 hour fitness |
| 08:53.34 | sontek | Sargun: showers + locker room == $9.99/month |
| 08:57.13 | Sargun | I have an account at express. |
| 08:57.21 | Sargun | They close at 11 |
| 08:57.23 | Sargun | and open at 5 AM |
| 08:57.26 | Sargun | I wake up at 5 AM |
| 08:58.06 | Sargun | wafwadwajkdpwadwa |
| 08:58.11 | Sargun | Meh, my day has sucked. |
| 08:58.27 | Sargun | Now the question is to sleep |
| 08:58.30 | Sargun | or not to sleep. |
| 08:58.37 | RazberrieTart | Sleep. |
| 08:58.41 | Sargun | Why? |
| 08:58.48 | Sargun | I don't think I should go into the office tomorrow. |
| 08:58.51 | Sargun | like this. |
| 08:59.22 | RazberrieTart | Sleep lets whole chunks of time pass that you don't have to dwell on things. |
| 08:59.46 | Sargun | Well when do I wake up? |
| 09:00.24 | Sargun | Now I'm all dirty. |
| 09:00.28 | Sargun | and I can't wash myself |
| 09:00.29 | RazberrieTart | My brilliant plan didn't think that far ahead. |
| 09:00.34 | Sargun | and I'm not getting into my bed. |
| 09:00.34 | RazberrieTart | Aw |
| 09:00.54 | RazberrieTart | speed shower. |
| 09:01.36 | Sargun | If I understand correctly |
| 09:01.45 | Sargun | any kind of showering requires water |
| 09:01.51 | Sargun | or some of that special (awesome) soap |
| 09:01.54 | Sargun | Oh, fsck. |
| 09:02.01 | RazberrieTart | Neither ? |
| 09:02.05 | Sargun | How do I keep the water tanks out of my sister's hands? |
| 09:02.14 | RazberrieTart | cut off her hands. |
| 09:02.14 | Sargun | That's my filtered water |
| 09:02.18 | Sargun | Kill her. |
| 09:02.27 | RazberrieTart | Wither one. |
| 09:02.28 | RazberrieTart | Either. |
| 09:02.42 | Sargun | RazberrieTart, Can I pay you to do that? |
| 09:03.02 | RazberrieTart | Sargun: 'arches eyebrows' How much ? |
| 09:03.54 | Sargun | 10k before |
| 09:03.56 | Sargun | 10k after |
| 09:04.10 | RazberrieTart | 'k. |
| 09:04.48 | Sargun | ETA to death? |
| 09:05.05 | RazberrieTart | when I get motivated to go outside ? |
| 09:05.26 | RazberrieTart | I like the element of surprise. |
| 09:07.52 | Sargun | I just wasted 2 fair tickets on a whore. |
| 09:07.53 | Sargun | Meh. |
| 09:08.11 | Sargun | I'm going to go code something. |
| 09:08.27 | RazberrieTart | Well, did you at least get laid if she's a whore or is she a whore in the ... "not for you" sense ? |
| 09:08.40 | Sargun | "not for me" |
| 09:08.48 | RazberrieTart | Well, damn. |
| 09:09.29 | Sargun | I'm always the "nice guy" to her. |
| 09:09.42 | Sargun | Well, gah, this is all going to be replayed when lakshmi gets back |
| 09:09.45 | Sargun | she'll be pissed. |
| 09:09.54 | Sargun | so might as well STFU |
| 09:10.07 | Sargun | I want to use the bathroom. |
| 09:10.26 | Sargun | now all that's left to go wrong is an Earthquake |
| 09:10.32 | Sargun | that'd be the cherry on top to my day. |
| 09:10.35 | Sargun | brb. |
| 09:11.22 | Sargun | back |
| 09:11.41 | RazberrieTart | That was fast. |
| 09:12.01 | Sargun | I know |
| 09:12.03 | Sargun | RIGHT BACK! |
| 09:12.08 | RazberrieTart | WOw. |
| 09:12.10 | RazberrieTart | :D |
| 09:12.42 | Sargun | heh |
| 09:12.46 | Sargun | lalalal |
| 09:12.49 | Sargun | ugh |
| 09:12.51 | Sargun | fjfdpiwadjwadjwadpiwajfdwajdwad |
| 09:13.10 | RazberrieTart | Oh my. |
| 09:13.54 | Sargun | I'm using one of the several toilets. |
| 09:14.08 | Sargun | my sister no doubt will do something stupid |
| 09:14.12 | Sargun | and destroy a toilet. |
| 09:14.20 | Sargun | causing us to require a plumber for that |
| 09:14.56 | RazberrieTart | Holy hell. |
| 09:16.36 | Sargun | RazberrieTart, Why are you still awake? |
| 09:18.05 | RazberrieTart | Because I'm too stressed to sleep right now. |
| 09:20.03 | Sargun | Why are you stressed out? |
| 09:20.23 | RazberrieTart | I was asked to move out this afternoon. |
| 09:20.58 | RazberrieTart | By my GF's mother, since we live downstairs of her... and spen the day arranging to move back to Wisconsin |
| 09:22.16 | Sargun | oh. |
| 09:22.26 | Sargun | I'm sorry |
| 09:22.29 | Sargun | Why Wisconsin |
| 09:22.32 | Sargun | Try California |
| 09:22.41 | Sargun | you'll be more welcome here. |
| 09:22.47 | RazberrieTart | I have family in Wisconsin. |
| 09:23.59 | Sargun | but its Wisconsin. |
| 09:24.05 | RazberrieTart | Plus have company coming for the weekend at least, arriving tomorrow ... oh what fun. |
| 09:24.13 | Sargun | two of their syllables mean bad things. |
| 09:24.16 | Sargun | Con, Sin. |
| 09:24.20 | RazberrieTart | many hands make light work ? |
| 09:24.30 | RazberrieTart | Yeah. |
| 09:24.45 | RazberrieTart | I'll fit right in :D |
| 09:24.49 | Sargun | hehe. |
| 09:25.34 | Sargun | Well, I don't know what to tell you |
| 09:25.37 | Sargun | I hope all goes well |
| 09:25.47 | RazberrieTart | It will |
| 09:25.54 | RazberrieTart | It'll just be a hairy couple of weeks |
| 09:26.06 | RazberrieTart | and I 'still' won't have made it to any sllug meetings ... |
| 09:26.12 | RazberrieTart | rofl. |
| 09:26.17 | Sargun | hehe |
| 09:28.33 | Sargun | RazberrieTart, how old is the kid again? |
| 09:29.03 | RazberrieTart | nine 1/2 |
| 09:30.32 | Sargun | oh, so you have to put it in school. |
| 09:30.48 | Sargun | take a cross country trip. |
| 09:30.57 | Sargun | you only have 3 years left. |
| 09:31.04 | Sargun | before it turns into a MONSTER ;-P |
| 09:31.53 | RazberrieTart | Yes, transfer back to the one elementary school in town. |
| 09:32.47 | Sargun | Travel to NYC |
| 09:32.49 | Sargun | Florida |
| 09:32.49 | Sargun | LA |
| 09:32.52 | Sargun | SFO |
| 09:32.55 | Sargun | and SEATAC |
| 09:33.12 | Sargun | you can hitup DC on the way from NYC to Florida |
| 09:33.27 | Sargun | school is in another how many months? |
| 09:33.31 | Sargun | 2 months? |
| 09:34.22 | RazberrieTart | Two. |
| 09:34.33 | RazberrieTart | heh, good plan, lots of adventure, but alas, no cr for me to do this. |
| 09:34.37 | Sargun | CR? |
| 09:34.39 | Sargun | Credit? |
| 09:34.43 | RazberrieTart | no car ^ |
| 09:34.46 | Sargun | Dude, cars are for squares. |
| 09:34.48 | RazberrieTart | The Tartie, she doesn't drive. |
| 09:34.50 | Sargun | Bike? |
| 09:34.56 | RazberrieTart | Um ... |
| 09:34.58 | RazberrieTart | forgot how. |
| 09:35.03 | Sargun | Fly. |
| 09:35.11 | Sargun | or busses. |
| 09:35.14 | RazberrieTart | And with moving right now ? I just want to get that out of the way first. |
| 09:35.20 | RazberrieTart | Maybe next summer though. |
| 09:35.28 | Sargun | No |
| 09:35.33 | Sargun | you're always going to say that |
| 09:35.34 | RazberrieTart | Camping trip maybe. |
| 09:35.42 | Sargun | then the kid will be like 14 |
| 09:35.50 | Sargun | and will want to spend time with their friends |
| 09:35.59 | Sargun | and you can't make it an experience. |
| 09:36.10 | Sargun | you're always going to defer it to "next year" |
| 09:36.26 | RazberrieTart | I'm broke this year :D |
| 09:36.28 | Sargun | The window is closing quickly. |
| 09:36.46 | Sargun | Excuses, excuses :-(( |
| 09:36.51 | RazberrieTart | Yeah |
| 09:37.14 | RazberrieTart | She's up in WI right now, spendingwhat we thought was her summer vacation w/ relatives she hasn't seen in a year. |
| 09:37.29 | RazberrieTart | Be a surprise when I show up w/ all our stuff ... heh. |
| 09:37.34 | Sargun | hehe |
| 09:37.42 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:38.32 | RazberrieTart | Actually, you know what I'd like to do ? Go to berlin again next summer for LinuxTag and this time, bring her. She'd have fun I bet. |
| 09:38.42 | Sargun | She wouldn't have fun |
| 09:38.50 | Sargun | LinuxTag isn't fun for a kid. |
| 09:39.00 | Sargun | unless she is a programmer |
| 09:39.08 | RazberrieTart | Well, LT and general vacationing and sightseeing like I did |
| 09:39.09 | Sargun | or a Linux geek |
| 09:39.11 | Sargun | or a geek. |
| 09:39.19 | Sargun | too much "adult stuff" |
| 09:39.43 | RazberrieTart | Take her to the brandenberg gate like in her snowglobe I got her ... she'd like that. |
| 09:40.41 | Sargun | hmm. |
| 09:40.54 | Sargun | Remember you only have 3 years left. |
| 09:41.09 | RazberrieTart | Yeah.... |
| 09:41.18 | RazberrieTart | Teenage years ... eep. |
| 09:41.19 | RazberrieTart | :D |
| 09:41.42 | Sargun | Those suck. |
| 09:41.44 | Sargun | These suck. |
| 09:41.57 | RazberrieTart | will just get moved first, then take decisions furher on. |
| 09:42.35 | Sargun | good luck |
| 09:43.15 | RazberrieTart | Thanks :) |
| 09:43.42 | Sargun | RazberrieTart, do you have a website? |
| 09:44.21 | RazberrieTart | Sargun: Not a very good one :D |
| 09:44.29 | Sargun | want a cross link? |
| 09:44.30 | RazberrieTart | badly coded and hardly updated. |
| 09:44.48 | RazberrieTart | Can I get it tomorrow when I'll be more able to badly code it in ? |
| 09:44.57 | RazberrieTart | Or, later today, as the case may be. |
| 09:45.10 | Sargun | but its fun to make fun of people. ;-P |
| 09:45.16 | Sargun | Don't worry, I use Drupal |
| 09:45.37 | RazberrieTart | ahh... |
| 09:46.00 | RazberrieTart | is going to go lay down and 'try' to sleep in a few anyway |
| 09:46.31 | Sargun | ah |
| 09:46.45 | RazberrieTart | Good night Sargun :) |
| 09:46.48 | Sargun | Night |
| 09:46.53 | Sargun | Sleep well. |
| 09:47.03 | Tartie|Away | thanks. |
| 09:47.05 | Tartie|Away | 'zzz' |
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| 14:00.29 | elg | nice http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/cppcomplex.html |
| 14:00.37 | brac | [D Complex Types vs C++ std::complex - D Programming Language 2.0 - Digital Mars] |
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| 15:06.03 | levi | elg: D is not a bad language to use if you're going to use a C-style language. |
| 15:06.26 | levi | elg: Seems to be moving in an interesting direction, too. |
| 15:06.29 | elg | i'm still hoping for a functional language with good numerical characteristics, but I've stopped holding my breath |
| 15:06.44 | levi | Have you looked at ML languages? |
| 15:06.46 | elg | D seems like the current runner-up |
| 15:07.07 | elg | no. do they have complex types and smart fast arrays (pref. multidimensional)? |
| 15:07.11 | levi | The ML family is very fast at numeric computations. |
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| 15:07.39 | elg | i may still end up doing it in matlab/octave, which is more or less the defacto standard for prototyping this stuff, anyway (aka research) |
| 15:07.55 | elg | but matlab is so ugly when it comes to logic (vs numerics) |
| 15:07.59 | levi | http://www.ffconsultancy.com/ocaml/mandelbrot/index.html |
| 15:08.00 | elg | i still have to investigate how ugly |
| 15:08.03 | brac | [OCaml tutorials and examples] |
| 15:08.10 | levi | There's an exaple of an OCaml program using complex numbers. |
| 15:08.37 | elg | cool, thx |
| 15:08.56 | levi | The syntax of OCaml takes a bit to get used to, but I found it fairly comfortable after working with it for a while. |
| 15:09.15 | levi | And I wrote probably a couple of kloc with it. |
| 15:09.42 | levi | That site also sells a book called 'OCaml for Scientists' |
| 15:10.02 | levi | He's now into F#, though, which is a Caml-style language for .net |
| 15:10.11 | levi | And he's got F# for Scientists as well. |
| 15:10.53 | levi | There's a freely available OReilly book for OCaml, too. |
| 15:12.03 | elg | I have yet to look at F#, I'll peek there too |
| 15:12.08 | elg | ever looked at nial? |
| 15:12.26 | levi | I think it's worth knowing at least one ML-style language well, because it's one of the major syntactic families. |
| 15:13.23 | levi | I think OCaml, natively compiled, is generally faster than F#, but IIRC it doesn't take advantage of multiple cores. |
| 15:13.29 | levi | While F# can. |
| 15:15.04 | Sargun | I do not like: Howie Day - Collide |
| 15:15.05 | Sargun | funge? |
| 15:15.19 | levi | I do not like: Sargun ;) |
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| 15:25.12 | tensai | levi: the arrivaltel guys don't come around #utaug much any more |
| 15:26.29 | jsmith | tensai: Yup... |
| 15:26.31 | levi | tensai: Apparently they don't answer their email much anymore, either. |
| 15:27.02 | tensai | I'm sorry to hear that |
| 15:27.07 | fozzmoo | BUmmer. |
| 15:28.37 | levi | Well, I only emailed Eliott, maybe I should try Dave instead. |
| 15:28.46 | elg | couldn't hurt |
| 15:28.49 | elg | they need more people |
| 15:28.55 | elg | just too much for the two of them |
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| 15:36.08 | findlay | hello |
| 15:37.17 | goozbach | sooo tired |
| 15:38.12 | sjansen | ~sleep goozbach |
| 15:38.13 | ibot | ACTION sends goozbach to bed without supper |
| 15:38.27 | goozbach | sounds good |
| 15:40.28 | elg | sends supper to bed without goozbach |
| 15:54.58 | tensai | apparently reiserfs allows you to mount a filesystem multiple times |
| 16:00.38 | sjansen | Geez, Windows is so hideous. How do people put up with it? |
| 16:01.40 | levi | sjansen: You install lots of open source cool apps on it and you become accustomed to it. |
| 16:02.17 | maquis | sjansen: depends on how much they're willing to pay you |
| 16:05.43 | sontek | sjansen: yeah, I have a windows installation with a GNOME/Tango theme, open office, gimp, python, vim, gnu tools, and I run andLinux for terminal and other good stuff :P |
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| 17:18.18 | Sargun | Ok |
| 17:18.28 | Sargun | The day is getting a little less miserable. |
| 17:26.47 | maquis | urgh |
| 17:27.30 | Sargun | maquis, Excuse me? |
| 17:31.25 | maquis | Sargun: just grumbling |
| 17:31.34 | maquis | rough day |
| 17:31.44 | Sargun | I'm sorry |
| 17:31.50 | Sargun | Work, or otherwise? |
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| 17:42.47 | sjansen | ~taunt maquis |
| 17:42.48 | ibot | ACTION taunts maquis a second time |
| 17:42.53 | sjansen | ~console maquis |
| 17:42.54 | ibot | ACTION gives maquis the consolation moose |
| 17:42.59 | sjansen | ~confuse maquis |
| 17:42.59 | ibot | yes them is their gerbil tomorrow ? |
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| 17:54.38 | elg | hey, maquis doesn't own me |
| 17:54.47 | elg | ~chat yes them |
| 17:54.50 | elg | -chat yes them |
| 17:54.52 | brac | yes them is probably an illegal copy of the habit and still lives with them |
| 17:55.16 | levi | -chat but that |
| 17:55.16 | brac | but that seemed to do all that. |
| 17:55.24 | levi | -chat yes man |
| 17:55.24 | brac | yes man |
| 17:55.28 | levi | -chat no way |
| 17:55.29 | brac | no way I'm trying to decide which is the signaling/routing. The first place :) |
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| 18:11.19 | elg | -chat yes way |
| 18:11.19 | brac | yes way |
| 18:15.40 | levi | elg: Had any further thoughts on OCaml? |
| 18:15.50 | elg | haven't had a chance. been prospectizing |
| 18:16.01 | elg | i guess i passed. now i'm turned loose |
| 18:16.06 | elg | next stop, face plant |
| 18:16.08 | elg | then doctorate |
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| 18:39.40 | findlay | stupid ubuntu doesn't have a command line interface to sane |
| 18:40.22 | tensai | findlay: why did you install Stupid Ubuntu? try out normal Ubuntu and see if that works better. |
| 18:41.15 | dataw0lf | yea, you can uninstall Stupid with apt-get install sane-utils |
| 18:41.59 | findlay | how do you turn off the lame window effects? |
| 18:42.10 | findlay | man, I'm getting annoyed |
| 18:42.11 | findlay | :) |
| 18:42.33 | findlay | hm, didn't see sane-utils |
| 18:42.34 | levi | findlay: There's a configuration option to turn off the window effects, though I don't recall exactly where it is. |
| 18:42.40 | elg | one of them preferences things. appearance I think |
| 18:42.58 | levi | Personally, I like it on and in the 'minimal' mode. |
| 18:43.22 | elg | yeah, I do too |
| 18:43.24 | levi | Makes it feel a little more like there's a real GUI system. |
| 18:43.26 | elg | when it doesn't screw things up |
| 18:43.31 | elg | it works on my laptop, but not on my desktop |
| 18:47.34 | findlay | yay |
| 18:47.41 | findlay | is now effect-less |
| 18:47.49 | elg | idempotent? |
| 18:47.58 | findlay | more or less |
| 18:48.07 | elg | ~findlay sjansen |
| 18:48.08 | ibot | ACTION recreationally nmaps sjansen with abandon |
| 18:48.09 | findlay | ~dict idempotent |
| 18:48.11 | levi | Yeah, the graphics engine behind it is still only barely adequate. |
| 18:48.20 | levi | The Linux graphics situation is pitiful. |
| 18:48.37 | findlay | levi: I've found that it's gotten *lots* better in the past couple of years |
| 18:48.54 | levi | findlay: Yes, it went from completely deplorable to pitiful. |
| 18:48.59 | elg | and we can expect it to continue to improve, with amd opening up their specs |
| 18:49.03 | sjansen | levi: What do you mean? |
| 18:49.07 | findlay | now with intel and ATI or whoever else it was providing better support/specs |
| 18:50.06 | elg | and nvidia will probably continue to improve (and maybe just maybe open their specs in reponse) |
| 18:50.16 | levi | I mean, only nvidia cards currently work very well, and the whole X infrastructure is still a pile of garbage. |
| 18:50.18 | elg | but I see that a couple years down the road before those things really bear froot |
| 18:50.30 | levi | Mmm, froot. |
| 18:50.34 | levi | I have a peach and an orange. |
| 18:50.35 | elg | until then, nvidia |
| 18:50.42 | elg | i have m&ms |
| 18:51.08 | levi | I have access to a whole cube full of various goodies from costco and a fridge full of drinks. :) |
| 18:51.16 | sjansen | levi: So basically, you're talking about the latest Linux Hater post. |
| 18:51.18 | findlay | no fair |
| 18:51.41 | levi | sjansen: Well, I basically thought the same thing before I read that. |
| 18:51.47 | elg | levi: incidentally, my laptop has an intel chip and my desktop has an (admittedly older) nvidia chip |
| 18:51.54 | levi | There are other things, though. |
| 18:52.03 | elg | so that's perhaps backwards from what you'd expect |
| 18:52.06 | levi | Even nvidia doesn't support all their chipset features in Linux. |
| 18:52.12 | sjansen | *shrug* Linux graphics have been good enough for me for ages. |
| 18:52.32 | sontek | All but 1 of my nvidia chipsets work |
| 18:52.42 | sontek | and they actually used to support it, they dropped support :P |
| 18:52.44 | elg | you're an old fogey. everyone knows you lose your appreciation for useless graphix power as you age |
| 18:52.48 | sontek | I have to install an old version |
| 18:52.51 | levi | sjansen: Well, they're fine for the sort of non-demanding stuff that Linux users typically do. |
| 18:53.11 | findlay | levi wants effects! :) |
| 18:53.12 | levi | That doesn't make X any better, though. |
| 18:53.24 | elg | pines for the modeline days |
| 18:53.57 | elg | ~modeline sjansen |
| 18:54.04 | levi | findlay: I don't really want effects, I want windows that don't spread damage across one another while dragging them around. |
| 18:54.20 | sinuhe | Is there someone here who can translate Italian? |
| 18:54.46 | findlay | ibot |
| 18:54.54 | tensai | ~x it en pizza |
| 18:54.56 | findlay | ~x en it hello |
| 18:55.02 | elg | speaking of which, is there a way to disable the "totally awesome" and totally worthless resizing default in those ubuntu settings? I find a transparent purple rectangle much less useful than actually resizing the window as it goes |
| 18:55.11 | sjansen | sinuhe: Depending on what you need, anyone who speaks a romance language may be able to come close. |
| 18:55.23 | elg | ~romance sinuhe |
| 18:56.22 | sinuhe | sjansen: This file: http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/rottlog/Appunti?revision=1.10&root=rottlog&view=markup |
| 18:56.25 | levi | elg: Part of the 'barely adequateness' of the current state of the compositing system is that it can't resize at a reasonable speed with the full window image. |
| 18:56.45 | levi | Which is just pathetic, considering OS X has been able to do it for years now. |
| 18:57.30 | elg | and what do you want to know sinuhe? |
| 18:58.38 | sinuhe | elg: I need that file converted into English in as accurate a translation as possible. It is intended to replace the Italian version. |
| 18:58.52 | elg | oh, well good luck then |
| 18:59.13 | Jayce^ | too bad bradipo doesn't hang around anymore |
| 18:59.35 | sinuhe | I figure with enough babel fish I can sort it out, but that will be more effort than I want to give it. |
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| 20:01.46 | Tene | Mmm... mod_lolcode... |
| 20:12.26 | Sargun | that sounds evil. |
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| 20:17.06 | Tene | Sargun: running on mod_parrot |
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| 20:17.46 | Sargun | I assumed so |
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| 20:29.06 | bonez45 | I have a database question.... let's say I see someone today.. in my office.and I want to send a reminder to them.. or automate it so that in 3 weeks...an email will go out, or a fax if I don't have an email..or barring either of those.. a reminder to call that person.. |
| 20:29.46 | bonez45 | aside from writing a note on my cell's calendar..or in my Palm.. what other ways could I get this to happen, so I don't miss sending the reminder? |
| 20:30.03 | dmdavis | at |
| 20:30.07 | Tene | I always use 'at' on the command line. |
| 20:33.04 | bonez45 | ? |
| 20:33.25 | dmdavis | at is a command to run a command in the future |
| 20:33.39 | dmdavis | tell it to send an email in 3 weeks |
| 20:35.08 | dmdavis | I think you'd do a command like: |
| 20:35.16 | dmdavis | at 10am + 3 weeks |
| 20:35.36 | dmdavis | then it will prompt for what you want to do then. Just enter a bash command, like |
| 20:35.53 | dmdavis | echo "Don't forget!" | mutt -s "reminder" john@example.com |
| 20:47.38 | bonez45 | very cool |
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| 21:35.37 | unum | now for the last part of the great migration: mailman |
| 21:36.03 | findlay | what's better than mailman? |
| 21:36.28 | unum | I'm not migrating away from mailman, I'm migrating servers |
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| 21:47.35 | ^Migs^ | nods |
| 21:48.06 | ^Migs^ | this has been awesome. I've been virtually attending the National Educational Computing Conference via twitter and ustream |
| 21:48.20 | ^Migs^ | didn't even have to pay a dime :) |
| 21:49.58 | bonez44 | I have a dual boot machine.. is there any way I could read a .log file on my etch machine.. if I have xp running? any way to access that .log .. without booting into etch? |
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| 21:59.39 | levi | bonez45: If you're using ext2/3, you might be able to find a windows program that will read ext2/3 partitions. |
| 22:00.13 | levi | I used to have one, but I don't remember the name. Try googling for it. |
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| 22:00.39 | levi | bonez44: If you're using ext2/3, you might be able to find a windows program that will read ext2/3 partitions. |
| 22:00.43 | levi | I used to have one, but I don't remember the name. Try googling for it. |
| 22:01.07 | bonez44 | levi: I found a program.. to allow me to read from my linux partitions in xp |
| 22:02.03 | dmdavis | I use explore2fs, which works well for me, if you ever need a different one bonez44 |
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| 22:02.22 | levi | Ahh, explore2fs sounds familiar, that's probably what I used. |
| 22:03.32 | tonedevf | rsimpkins: i was referred to you in my quest to track down the slides from the PLUG June meeting on Samba. Do you have them or have a way to get them? |
| 22:03.41 | findlay | what I need is a break |
| 22:03.43 | findlay | and some food |
| 22:04.55 | levi | o/~ "Gimme a break, gimme a break..." o/~ |
| 22:05.21 | findlay | ~give levi a break |
| 22:05.21 | ibot | ACTION gives a break to levi |
| 22:05.29 | levi | o/~ "Break me off a piece of that KIT KAT BAR!" o/~ |
| 22:06.10 | findlay | hm, rain |
| 22:06.22 | findlay | probably because I threatened to wash my car yesterday |
| 22:07.50 | bonez44 | findlay: grrrrrrrrrrr It's all your FAULT |
| 22:08.01 | bonez44 | dmdavis: thanks |
| 22:08.43 | bonez44 | http://pastebin.ca/1059969 just curious if someone could take a look at this....it's my Xorg.0.log file.. and tell me why I can't load any GUI on my linux box... |
| 22:10.51 | eggyknap | bonez44: I'm far from an X.org guru, but the "No screens found" line suggests your xorg.conf is h0sed. Care to post it to a pastebin? |
| 22:11.38 | findlay | -metar kpvu |
| 22:11.40 | brac | KPVU 012148Z 07003KT 15SM BKN120 33/04 A2997 |
| 22:12.49 | bonez44 | eggyknap: that's exactly what I just pasted , ..right above your comment |
| 22:12.55 | levi | bonez44: Apparently it's not finding a video card. |
| 22:13.46 | bonez44 | so if I tell it to use VESA.. it should find that and run with it? |
| 22:14.43 | levi | You might try that. |
| 22:16.42 | bonez44 | ok.. Ithink I'll reboot and give it a whirl |
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| 22:18.46 | eggyknap | only saw bonez44's Xorg.0.log, not the xorg.conf. Oh well. |
| 22:19.15 | levi | I think he misunderstood you. |
| 22:29.53 | eggyknap | levi: On an unrelated note, did I understand correctly that you're writing a TCP stack or some such for a microcontroller? |
| 22:30.32 | eggyknap | has begun to get interested in much less substantial microcontroller projects, and is curious about many such things now. |
| 22:54.12 | unum | so I accidently deleted all my tables under for my trac databases |
| 22:54.23 | unum | is there an easy way to recreate the tables |
| 22:54.32 | unum | with out having to start all over with each enviroment |
| 22:57.22 | tensai | mutters something about backups |
| 22:57.37 | unum | ya I backed up the structure.... |
| 23:26.42 | goozbach | ooh boy |
| 23:26.47 | goozbach | rm -rf / lately? |