| 00:03.29 | maquis | nick125: when was it supposed to be shipped? |
| 00:03.30 | maquis | today? |
| 00:07.41 | nick125 | maquis: It was supposed to be delivered today, but UPS went and rescheduled it tomorrow. The guy at the UPS facility said the package wasn't there and it probably wouldn't get unloaded until tonight |
| 00:10.24 | nick125 | Wow, this lens is awesome |
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| 00:23.45 | Sargun_screen | nick125: did you receive it? |
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| 00:31.11 | nick125 | Sargun_screen: yeah |
| 00:31.54 | Sargun_screen | Haha |
| 00:31.58 | Sargun_screen | UPS guy isn't too bright. |
| 00:34.32 | tyler | Sargun_screen: but he makes cute kids |
| 00:34.35 | findlay | ibot: -onjoin findlay |
| 00:34.43 | findlay | ibot: onjoin -findlay |
| 00:34.43 | ibot | ok, findlay |
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| 00:51.54 | Tene | Hey, does von ever come on IRC? |
| 00:58.13 | nick125 | Sargun_screen: s/guy // |
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| 01:02.26 | nick125 | Sargun_screen: UPS in general is incompetent |
| 01:05.58 | Tene | levi: the name 'chitchat' has recieved praise from several people in the parrot community. |
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| 01:18.56 | elg | Tene: vontrapp sometimes |
| 01:19.14 | elg | tensai: you might be interested to know I'm an idiot |
| 01:19.39 | tensai | elg: wow. you're right. I am interested to know that. |
| 01:19.45 | Sargun_screen | nick125: you there? |
| 01:19.47 | elg | I did my calculations and made a mistake somewhere. Probably a leap without thinking it through |
| 01:19.52 | nick125 | Sargun_screen: yeah |
| 01:20.04 | elg | when I baked my experiment, they were way too moist. had to add flour |
| 01:20.21 | elg | they weren't at all like danish butter cookies. but they weren't bad and I gave them to my home teaching families anyway |
| 01:20.34 | elg | so I redid the calculations, and this time my calculations indicated I need -0.06 eggs |
| 01:20.47 | Sargun_screen | Agh, math -- difficult. |
| 01:20.48 | Sargun_screen | ;-P |
| 01:20.55 | nick125 | elg: It shouldn't be hard to find -0.06 eggs |
| 01:21.00 | elg | and that's actually right. as in, no eggs (it's on the ingredients list, probably because there's an egg wash) |
| 01:21.22 | elg | the negative bit is because my butter probably has a tad more cholesterol than theirs |
| 01:21.29 | elg | or less saturated fat. |
| 01:21.40 | goozbach | you need negitive eggs? |
| 01:21.43 | Sargun_screen | is that how 0/(1/0) == 0 |
| 01:21.45 | elg | definitely no room for eggs though, that would shoot the cholesterol way up (but again, maybe they use an egg wash) |
| 01:22.09 | goozbach | do you get negitive eggs from negitive chickens? |
| 01:22.15 | elg | goozbach: yeah, I set up a simultaneous equation with eggs and butter using saturated fat and cholesterol from the nutrition laels |
| 01:23.13 | Sargun_screen | goozbach: is your registrar Godaddy? |
| 01:24.18 | Sargun_screen | xbmodder@god ~ $ host friocorte.com |
| 01:24.18 | Sargun_screen | friocorte.com has address 166.70.208.100 |
| 01:24.21 | Sargun_screen | It works! |
| 01:24.44 | goozbach | Sargun_screen: it's domains875 |
| 01:24.57 | goozbach | I just got my friocorte domain resolving again. |
| 01:25.00 | Sargun_screen | goozbach: Are you dual stack yet? |
| 01:25.14 | goozbach | now it's time to get the data in the zone correct :) |
| 01:25.18 | goozbach | "dual stack"? |
| 01:25.49 | goozbach | nm I googled it |
| 01:25.54 | goozbach | Sargun_screen: nope |
| 01:26.04 | elg | the cool thing though is my equations give precisely 100g butter and 200g flour |
| 01:26.04 | goozbach | I don't have ipv6 addresses yet |
| 01:26.36 | elg | which besides being non-random, fits the standard shortbread recipe quite well |
| 01:26.50 | elg | which alas also means the previous recipes I tried should have worked and it must be my technique |
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| 01:49.56 | tensai | elg: I must have missed the part that made you an idiot |
| 01:50.12 | elg | oh yeah I forgot that part |
| 01:50.42 | elg | well we all know the ingredients are listed in order of quantity. eggs was listed after coconut, which I determined empirically was essentially a garnish in about 1/5 of the cookies |
| 01:51.07 | elg | if i had payed attention i would have realized there was no appreciable quantity of eggs. before baking a batch |
| 01:53.01 | tensai | so only 1 in 6 cookies has egg in it? it's like russian roullette for somebody with egg allergies. |
| 01:54.57 | elg | well, it's probably an egg wash, that's the only explanation I can think of. a light egg wash. and probably on all of the cookies, unless some look more glazed than others |
| 02:20.45 | levi | Hmm, with gas prices as they are, it would definitely be worthwhile for me to bike/bus to work. |
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| 02:30.27 | mrpull-lt | ibot: stop with the finger pulling! |
| 02:30.27 | ibot | ACTION leaps to his feet and stops with the finger pulling! |
| 02:30.40 | mrpull-lt | ~onjoin - mrpull |
| 02:30.40 | ibot | mrpull-lt: ok |
| 02:30.53 | mrpull-lt | ~onjoin - mrpull-lt |
| 02:30.53 | ibot | ok, mrpull-lt |
| 02:34.18 | mrpull-lt | awkward alert |
| 02:34.33 | mrpull-lt | fox news is interviewing Motley Crue |
| 02:34.40 | mrpull-lt | wtf |
| 02:35.30 | Supaplex | are they new? hah! jk. |
| 02:37.32 | mrpull-lt | worst interview ever |
| 02:37.43 | mrpull-lt | how did this happen? |
| 02:38.59 | mrpull-lt | tommy lee just asked gretta what color her panties are |
| 02:39.02 | mrpull-lt | ah geeze |
| 02:47.46 | RazberrieTart | rof, what ? |
| 03:12.11 | tensai | ~onjoin -mrpull |
| 03:12.11 | ibot | tensai: ok |
| 03:12.15 | tensai | ~onjoin -mrpull-lt |
| 03:12.15 | ibot | ok, tensai |
| 03:12.31 | tensai | mrpull-lt: you had an extraneous space :) |
| 03:16.16 | mrpull-lt | checks the syntax again |
| 03:17.12 | mrpull-lt | ah, that [-]< does NOT have a space there :) |
| 03:19.29 | mrpull-lt | add crappy hotel wifi to the list of reasons i'd rather be home |
| 03:26.35 | goozbach | any old timer gurus around, sjansen, emcnabb? |
| 03:26.38 | goozbach | guess not |
| 03:29.28 | elg | i'm an old timer but not a guru, do I get a prize? |
| 03:29.40 | tensai | you get to die first |
| 03:30.17 | goozbach | http://flickr.com/photos/petdance/2588945228/in/set-72157605674987673/ that guy look familar? |
| 03:30.41 | elg | you mean besides he could be stuart's uncle? |
| 03:31.40 | elg | tensai: not that you care, but it's nice to pretend to direct my ramblings at a person |
| 03:31.59 | elg | tensai: so I nailed the taste of danish butter cookies. now I just need to get the crispness |
| 03:32.15 | tensai | higher temp? less water? |
| 03:32.20 | elg | i imagine that's wholly a matter of baking temperature/time and cookie-making technique |
| 03:32.29 | elg | i.e. how one creams, etc. |
| 03:33.43 | elg | the dough was very crumbly, next to impossible to work with. maybe I just needed to work it longer, or let it sit. doesn't AB let pie crust do something magic in the fridge where it turns from crumbly mess to coherent pie crust dough? |
| 03:33.54 | elg | this is probably as close to pie crust as anything in composition |
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| 04:55.07 | Supaplex | synergy++ |
| 04:57.17 | findlay | ~destroy blackboard |
| 04:57.18 | ibot | no |
| 04:57.25 | RazberrieTart | :D |
| 04:57.43 | findlay | ~eliminate blackboard |
| 04:57.54 | findlay | ~nuke blackboard |
| 04:57.55 | ibot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at blackboard ... Bâ¢â¢M! |
| 04:59.47 | findlay | all that money, all those patents, and still it's broken and ill featured enough to provoke angry disgust |
| 05:01.20 | nick125 | findlay: I thought the patents were revoked |
| 05:28.27 | Supaplex | the bot ated them |
| 05:32.26 | findlay | well, at this point all I can do is look down with smugness on all the schools in Utah that bought into it |
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| 06:23.29 | tensai | ~lart sql server backups |
| 06:23.29 | ibot | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets sql server backups feel it |
| 06:23.55 | findlay | ~lart girls |
| 06:23.55 | ibot | readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at girls |
| 06:24.06 | RazberrieTart | HEY NOW |
| 06:24.18 | RazberrieTart | 's shield is in the shop, too. |
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| 06:24.37 | findlay | RazberrieTart: girls and I have a 'history', you know |
| 06:25.08 | RazberrieTart | findlay: 'grumbles' Ya but now how do I get this radiation out of my shirt ? |
| 06:25.34 | findlay | just when you think you're getting somewhere, they change their mind |
| 06:26.02 | sontek | findlay: forget about women, stick with Linux |
| 06:26.06 | sontek | it'll never do you wrong |
| 06:26.14 | RazberrieTart | watch out for linux women |
| 06:26.16 | RazberrieTart | we're the worst ;) |
| 06:26.29 | findlay | and you're dismissed with only so much as a peremptory motion of disgust |
| 06:26.36 | findlay | sontek: good advice |
| 06:28.17 | findlay | what was I thinking that girls could even offer anything? |
| 06:28.23 | findlay | Linux has always been there for me |
| 06:28.45 | findlay | hugs Linux |
| 06:28.52 | findlay | ~hug Linux |
| 06:28.53 | ibot | ACTION sneaks up on Linux and suddenly hugs Linux tightly |
| 06:31.00 | RazberrieTart | um |
| 06:31.05 | RazberrieTart | We have boobs ? |
| 06:31.16 | RazberrieTart | shrugs |
| 06:31.36 | findlay | and? |
| 06:32.24 | RazberrieTart | sometimes we're nice to have around ? |
| 06:32.56 | findlay | it's nice to have you here RazberrieTart |
| 06:34.24 | RazberrieTart | Sometimes :D |
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| 12:32.05 | elg | ~book |
| 12:32.06 | ibot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
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| 12:46.27 | ^Migs^ | http://tinyurl.com/5drnz6 |
| 13:22.04 | eggyknap | elg: re: "I haven't forgotten your pact", I imagine finding people to review such things isn't always easy -- I wasn't afraid of being forgotten :) |
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| 13:37.39 | Sargun_screen | any dns experts here? |
| 13:39.10 | mrpull | ask the question, it might need an expert :) |
| 13:40.25 | Sargun_screen | can you put spaces in txt records? |
| 13:40.27 | Sargun_screen | punycode can handle 0-255 right? |
| 13:41.28 | Sargun_screen | encoding a file in punycode and then esplitting it up in the content record of a bunch of TXT records |
| 13:41.58 | Sargun_screen | is the most efficent way of transferring files ofver dns? |
| 13:42.54 | mrpull | my understanding is that you MAY put spaces in txt records |
| 13:43.11 | Sargun_screen | at the beginning? |
| 13:44.22 | Sargun_screen | so, also, do you thimk hitting a server with about a milliorequeests commung in at about 6 mbit would kill dns? |
| 13:44.50 | Sargun_screen | god i cannot type on this keyboard reliably |
| 13:45.25 | Tene | Sargun_screen: what's with this "ZOMGL FILES IN DNS" fascination you keep coming up with? |
| 13:45.38 | mrpull | Sargun_screen: looking at rfc 1035, i'm reading you need to put it in quotes if you want spaces |
| 13:46.41 | Sargun_screen | bind wasnt efficent at this |
| 13:46.51 | Sargun_screen | so time to writte my own dns server |
| 13:47.04 | Tene | but why do you want to do it? |
| 13:47.21 | Tene | also, have you looked at nstx? |
| 13:47.25 | Sargun_screen | Tene: the world's biggest cdn? |
| 13:47.37 | Sargun_screen | yeah, i've looked at nstx |
| 13:47.43 | Sargun_screen | I've used it before |
| 13:47.55 | Sargun_screen | its tunneling |
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| 13:48.17 | Sargun_screen | its more for the novelty of the idea |
| 13:48.48 | Sargun_screen | and writing my own dns server will be kind of fun. |
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| 13:55.37 | Sargun_screen | gah |
| 13:56.51 | Sargun_screen | I smell fire |
| 13:56.58 | Sargun_screen | my allergies flare |
| 13:57.05 | Sargun_screen | my sd card dies |
| 13:57.08 | Sargun_screen | i sleep in |
| 14:07.19 | ^Migs^ | http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/06/23/flying-saucer-uav.html |
| 14:07.23 | brac | [Discovery News : Discovery Channel : Flying Saucer Craft Set to Fly] |
| 14:09.46 | ^Migs^ | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/north_west/7471102.stm |
| 14:09.48 | brac | [BBC NEWS | UK | Wales | North West Wales | Man guilty of having 13 in Volvo] |
| 14:17.03 | levi | We're not the only ones with a nanny state, apparently. |
| 14:18.19 | Sargun_screen | Magistrates heard how his Volvo S70 was meant to carry five LIVE passengers only and the prosecution asked for the car to be confiscated. |
| 14:18.45 | Sargun_screen | and if he got hit only the outside passengers would die probably |
| 14:18.55 | Sargun_screen | I'm guessing there is enough of an air pocket |
| 14:19.01 | Sargun_screen | to pad the inside passengers. |
| 14:23.07 | levi | Sargun_screen: And there's also the fact that the vast majority of the time, vehicles aren't hit. |
| 14:23.34 | Sargun_screen | Alright, try to play along with the joke. |
| 14:24.37 | levi | Sorry, were you making a joke? |
| 14:25.42 | Sargun_screen | Attempting to. |
| 14:26.33 | Sargun_screen | assuming that these guys have Linux on their devices, would they have to give out the src? |
| 14:26.36 | Sargun_screen | http://www.rippletv.com/ |
| 14:28.21 | lakshmi | hi Sargun_screen wuz up? |
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| 14:31.38 | sinuhe | ^Migs^: I've been to Llandudno. I prefer a little further south in Denbigh or Llanelwy. Wouldn't want to get caught on the Old Welsh Highway, however, with a car that loaded. There's barely enough room for two cars. |
| 14:33.21 | ^Migs^ | TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - God accused of selling cocaine near Tampa church |
| 14:33.24 | ^Migs^ | http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ibq9cJ0lbu0DUEJ0FM1zTSzzkPoQD91G4U280 |
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| 15:27.47 | ^Migs^ | http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080624/beautiful_people_080624/20080624?hub=CanadaAM |
| 15:27.48 | brac | [CTV.ca | Dating service that bans ugliness comes to Canada] |
| 15:28.32 | ^Migs^ | Prospective members of the BeautifulPeople Network submit a picture and profile, and other members of the opposite sex rate the applicant over a 72-hour period, deciding whether they're worthy of joining the coveted community. |
| 15:28.38 | ^Migs^ | I propose we do this for normal society. |
| 15:29.00 | levi | What would we do with all the 'ugly' people? |
| 15:29.50 | ^Migs^ | ship them to Mexico |
| 15:31.09 | ^Migs^ | or Africa |
| 15:31.33 | ^Migs^ | they'll probably die of aids soon there anyway |
| 15:31.39 | ^Migs^ | so it's really a win-win |
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| 15:32.17 | ^Migs^ | the government should sponsor a "rate your neighbors" site, to weed out the uglies and undesirables. You don't make the cut, you're on the next ship to Africa. |
| 15:33.09 | ^Migs^ | it would solve so many world problems |
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| 15:52.55 | elg | hehe. beautifulpeople.com only works in ie |
| 15:53.08 | elg | beautifuldumbpeople.com |
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| 15:57.28 | maquis | ^Migs^: you sure you'd pass muster? |
| 15:59.56 | Tene | https://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Kernel_Driver_Statement |
| 16:00.40 | ^Migs^ | I'm slightly above average, so I think I'm okay |
| 16:00.56 | ^Migs^ | I'm not talking about people who just aren't attractive. I'm just thinking only the REALLY ugly people should be weeded out. |
| 16:01.15 | maquis | lol |
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| 16:09.59 | bonez45 | could someone dig my site... fyrenice.com I keep getting k-lined by another irc network... undernet.. and am not surewhy |
| 16:12.40 | levi | ^Migs^: Like Africa doesn't have enough problems already? |
| 16:13.56 | Sargun_screen | wow, how can energy drinks afford so much marketing? |
| 16:15.07 | Sargun_screen | monster truck: 100k |
| 16:15.48 | Sargun_screen | 2 models for the dat: 100 |
| 16:15.52 | Sargun_screen | 1000 |
| 16:16.17 | bonez45 | here's the error: Disconnected. ERROR :Closing Link: bonez45 by Dallas.TX.US.Undernet.org ([klined] You shouldnt IRC from a mailserver.) |
| 16:16.24 | levi | Energy drinks are made by gigantic corporations that also sell bottled tap water for $1/bottle. There's an awful lot of margin in that business. :P |
| 16:16.42 | Sargun_screen | 2000 monster drinks (wholesale): 1500 |
| 16:16.44 | bonez45 | ....so I am wondering why does it see my server as a mail server? I do server up my mail from this machine, but I have a static IP to my office .. |
| 16:17.02 | Sargun_screen | bonez45: you havve port 25 open |
| 16:17.18 | Sargun_screen | undernet isnt the place to put a mail server |
| 16:17.36 | bonez45 | Sargun_screen: the markup on energy drinks must be huge, to cover all the marketing.. and such.. probably for a drink that costs $2.00 , likely costs $.20 or less to produce |
| 16:17.44 | bonez45 | port 25 open, eh? |
| 16:18.09 | Sargun_screen | the cost of those drinks is about 3.50 retail |
| 16:18.15 | bonez45 | I am not looking to put a mail server on understand... hell, I am connected here to freenode.net using this same mail server machine... |
| 16:18.25 | bonez45 | and freenode NEVER tells me that I am klined... |
| 16:18.47 | bonez45 | ok, $3.50 retail, I stil bet it costs them under $.50 to produce those drinks |
| 16:19.34 | bonez45 | Sargun_screen: are you saying that on my router, I have port 25 open? to the wild wild web? |
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| 16:22.01 | bonez45 | ok, on my router, I DO have port 25 forwarded to my linux box, for emaili since that's where I host and manage my email server.... |
| 16:23.46 | {-} | CentOS 5.2 is out. |
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| 16:26.46 | goozbach | Cent 5.2! |
| 16:26.47 | goozbach | yay! |
| 16:26.49 | ^Migs^ | "Study reports 44% of Internet Traffice in North America is Peer-to-Peer" |
| 16:27.00 | ^Migs^ | nice to see so many people downloading Linux distros |
| 16:27.07 | goozbach | looks for some room on his cobbler server for YET ANOTHER DISTRO! |
| 16:27.42 | sjansen | goozbach: Don't you dare download 5.2 yet, the bandwidth is mine! |
| 16:28.26 | goozbach | sjansen: I'll just use www.gtlib.gatech.edu, it's in the cage next to mine, you use another mirror and we'll be fine. |
| 16:29.12 | sjansen | looks around the office for an ethernet cable long enough to reach GA |
| 16:29.19 | goozbach | besides, I'll be doing a long throttled rsync to my cobbler server |
| 16:34.14 | elg | you have a server that bakes cobbler? |
| 16:34.21 | sjansen | * You will need at least 768MB of combined RAM+SWAP to use the yum included in 5.2 (for yum > 3.2.x). |
| 16:34.26 | sjansen | What the heck? |
| 16:35.05 | elg | haha |
| 16:35.10 | elg | ~mock yum |
| 16:35.10 | ibot | ACTION pulls yum's pants down and shows the world yum's pink spotted underwear |
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| 16:37.37 | levi | Looks like HFCS currently costs $0.2841 per pound dry, or $0.218757 wet. |
| 16:38.57 | goozbach | et http://cobbler.et.redhat.com/ |
| 16:40.33 | levi | So, somewhere between 2-3 cents worth of corn syrup per 12oz drink. |
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| 16:41.00 | elg | don't forget the secret ingredients |
| 16:42.36 | levi | Well, yeah, but those are in pretty small quantities. |
| 16:43.26 | elg | but they're EXPENSIVE |
| 16:43.32 | elg | by virtue of being secret |
| 16:44.02 | levi | Expensive to *us* but not to the manufacturer. |
| 16:44.13 | elg | shhh |
| 16:44.18 | elg | you'll let the cat out of the bag |
| 16:44.31 | bonez45 | elg, levi: Curious what your suggestions might be about this problem: Disconnected. ERROR :Closing Link: bonez45 by Dallas.TX.US.Undernet.org ([klined] You shouldnt IRC from a mailserver.) |
| 16:44.42 | elg | just what it says |
| 16:44.50 | elg | they think you shouldn't be doing IRC from a mailserver |
| 16:44.55 | elg | and so they kick you off |
| 16:45.23 | elg | whether you should do irc from a mailserver seems entirely subjective, and how they are detecting that it's a mailserver is up for speculation |
| 16:45.27 | elg | but that's what's happening |
| 16:46.03 | levi | Looks like the amount of caffeine that goes into a caffeinated soda costs just a tiny fraction of a penny per drink, even if you buy it from an online 'vitamin store' instead of a wholesaler. |
| 16:46.07 | bonez45 | hmmm ok... |
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| 16:47.00 | elg | levi: what about the amount of coca? |
| 16:47.28 | levi | elg: I have no idea about that. |
| 16:47.45 | bonez45 | coca? as in cocaine? |
| 16:47.54 | elg | i'm being facetious I think. coke doesn't have coca anymore, does it? |
| 16:48.13 | bonez45 | I bet it might if you got a drink bottled in Columbia.. or perhaps in Mexico.. |
| 16:48.24 | elg | right, coca as in not cocoa |
| 16:48.29 | bonez45 | all I know it tastes TONS better, out of glass and with cane sugar instead of Corn syrup |
| 16:50.35 | levi | Well, OpenCola doesn't have any coca. |
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| 16:51.13 | levi | It has orange oil, lemon oil, nutmeg oil, cassia oil, coriander oil, neroli oil, lime oil, and lavender oil. |
| 16:52.42 | elg | wikipedia believes coca-cola still uses a "cocaine-free coca leaf extract" for flavoring |
| 16:52.47 | bonez45 | where does one buy OpenCola? |
| 16:52.56 | elg | seems like the sort of thing one makes |
| 16:53.17 | Sargun_screen | bonez45: tallstack ~ # host 75.144.9.237 |
| 16:53.17 | Sargun_screen | 237.9.144.75.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer mail.FYRENICE.COM. |
| 16:53.49 | Sargun_screen | bonez45: Freenode has different rules then the rest of the world. |
| 16:53.54 | Sargun_screen | Centos5.2 is out? |
| 16:53.56 | Sargun_screen | Neato! |
| 16:54.24 | bonez45 | Sargun_screen: ok....so, I would likely have kline issues on some other, perhaps all other networks, than freenode...is that what you suggest? |
| 16:54.38 | Sargun | No |
| 16:54.44 | Sargun | With some networks other than freenode |
| 16:54.47 | Sargun | Like Undernet |
| 16:55.00 | Sargun | For example Freenode doesn't let you IRC from tor |
| 16:55.06 | Sargun | whereas undernet doesn't care |
| 16:55.08 | Sargun | IIRc |
| 16:55.55 | Sargun | bonez45, Do not put your routers management interface on the net |
| 16:55.57 | Sargun | its a bad idea. |
| 16:59.31 | bonez45 | Sargun I didnt' know that I HAD put my routers management interface on the net..are you saying, don't allow web access to the interface? |
| 16:59.42 | bonez45 | i.e., so that I can access the interfacefrom home? |
| 16:59.50 | bonez45 | disallow web access to the interface? is that what you mean? |
| 16:59.50 | Sargun | close port 8080 |
| 17:00.00 | Sargun | I'm saying don't allow web access to the world |
| 17:00.30 | Sargun | an attack of about 8000 con/sec will kill it |
| 17:01.00 | Sargun | kill require a reset |
| 17:01.05 | Sargun | unless its one of the linux ones |
| 17:02.39 | bonez45 | well, the box that ports are forwarded to, are all to my linux box.. |
| 17:03.06 | bonez45 | for port 22, so I can ssh to my machine and office network.. and for email 25 and 110, and 80 for web.. and 8080 for interface to my router.. |
| 17:03.12 | bonez45 | but I don't want to be at risk.. |
| 17:04.11 | Sargun | turn down 8080 |
| 17:04.21 | Sargun | is this your office line? |
| 17:10.18 | bonez45 | yes.. if by office line, you mean.. access to my office router.. |
| 17:22.56 | bonez45 | Sargun ? |
| 17:23.11 | bonez45 | so are you saying that having web access to my router is inherently dangerous? |
| 17:25.43 | ^Migs^ | I just got a full access pass to animoto.com |
| 17:25.45 | ^Migs^ | this site is so sweet |
| 17:26.21 | ^Migs^ | you just upload your pics and music, and it automatically makes a dazzling musical slideshow |
| 17:29.46 | levi | Well, let me know when you post something you made with it. |
| 17:34.51 | Sargun | Sorry, I'm abck |
| 17:34.58 | Sargun | bonez45, Are you hippa compliant? |
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| 17:39.41 | maquis | hipaa? |
| 17:39.56 | maquis | Sargun: i'd certainly hope he's compliant |
| 17:40.01 | maquis | otherwise, he'd have a bit of trouble... |
| 17:40.11 | Sargun | Doh, typo. |
| 17:40.24 | Sargun | maquis, if data is in that network he probably isn't |
| 17:40.26 | Sargun | :-( |
| 17:40.32 | maquis | oh... reading the discussion |
| 17:40.33 | maquis | good point |
| 17:40.49 | maquis | he does need to close down the web access to the router -- i agree |
| 17:42.33 | maquis | needs to pay attention in here more often |
| 17:42.34 | maquis | :) |
| 17:57.16 | levi | Nah, you just need to pay attention on the PLUG list, where all the vitally important discussion happens. ;) |
| 17:57.48 | maquis | i'm not on plug anymore |
| 18:00.11 | levi | Well, then you're missing out on the most important political and social commentary anywhere! |
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| 18:00.30 | goozbach | the debian installer is kicking me in the privates |
| 18:00.40 | goozbach | I can NEVER get the networking to work properly |
| 18:00.43 | levi | I hate it when it does that. |
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| 18:02.58 | levi | maquis: Actually, the political discussions are highly amusing. PLUG has some pretty emphatic characters. |
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| 18:08.47 | maquis | levi: i'm sure... |
| 18:08.52 | maquis | i've been on it often enough |
| 18:09.36 | findlay | firefox vs java vs blackboard |
| 18:09.38 | unum_linode | that's it |
| 18:09.41 | findlay | I lose |
| 18:10.11 | findlay | been waiting about 90 s for a page to load |
| 18:10.17 | findlay | stupid blackboard |
| 18:11.45 | findlay | try #2 |
| 18:11.57 | findlay | try 2 fails too |
| 18:12.09 | findlay | maybe I'll let java work on this for the next 5 minutes |
| 18:15.41 | unum | any one know a good place to go to learn to set up irssi |
| 18:15.55 | elg | unum: on IRC |
| 18:16.06 | elg | watches unum explode |
| 18:16.55 | unum | I'm just trying to figure out how to get it to auto join the servers I want |
| 18:18.08 | unum | I have it set to auto join the channels I want |
| 18:21.00 | unum | auto join on the channels doesn't seem to be working.... |
| 18:21.37 | unum | there we go |
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| 18:24.24 | Tene | unum: vim .irssi/config |
| 18:24.28 | Tene | is what I did |
| 18:24.53 | unum | that's what I did, but I could find the command I wanted |
| 18:25.01 | unum | I thought I had it in there but it doesn't work |
| 18:25.04 | Tene | which command was it? |
| 18:25.20 | unum | I want it to auto connect to the servers when I start up irssi |
| 18:28.04 | Tene | autoconnect = "yes" |
| 18:28.08 | Tene | in the server section |
| 18:30.48 | findlay | so, blackboard has crashed ff on two different computers so far, one linux, one windows |
| 18:30.59 | findlay | and all I need is to print off one page |
| 18:31.11 | sjansen | ~mock findlay |
| 18:31.12 | ibot | ACTION pulls findlay's pants down and shows the world findlay's pink spotted underwear |
| 18:31.25 | findlay | is already mocked |
| 18:31.51 | goozbach | unum start here: http://users.netradius.com/~goozbach/irssi.conf |
| 18:32.37 | unum | I just had auto |
| 18:32.48 | unum | I should have tried autoconnect, I had that in the channel section |
| 18:34.28 | unum | thanks guys that's mostly what I was looking for |
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| 18:41.35 | vontrapp | hey peeps |
| 18:41.41 | vontrapp | i'm going to aqcuire a usb memory card reader |
| 18:42.01 | vontrapp | any suggestions for linux compatability? anything in particular to stay away from? |
| 18:42.04 | elg | why? |
| 18:42.12 | vontrapp | digital camera |
| 18:42.26 | elg | your laptop doesn't do it? |
| 18:42.30 | elg | i thought it did |
| 18:42.34 | vontrapp | not in linux |
| 18:42.36 | elg | and you have a digital camera that doesn't have usb? |
| 18:42.43 | vontrapp | lost the cable |
| 18:42.49 | vontrapp | and it's a mini-b, hard to find |
| 18:42.54 | elg | wouldn't a cable be cheaper? |
| 18:42.55 | vontrapp | shouldn't be, but it is |
| 18:43.03 | vontrapp | a reader is more versatile |
| 18:43.06 | elg | mini-b, like the three cables I have? |
| 18:43.09 | vontrapp | that is, if it works in linux |
| 18:43.22 | vontrapp | wait, do phones have mini-b? |
| 18:43.28 | vontrapp | maybe it's mini-a |
| 18:43.32 | vontrapp | it's the smaller of the two |
| 18:43.37 | vontrapp | tiny |
| 18:43.53 | elg | yeah. my mic, my camera, my mp3 player, my retro handset |
| 18:44.05 | elg | so I have at least 4, plus one that only passes the power (for charging the handset) |
| 18:44.38 | levi | I haven't had any issues with my CF reader in Linux, IIRC. |
| 18:44.43 | levi | I also haven't used it in ages, though. |
| 18:45.07 | mrpull | cable like this? http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030302&p_id=2797&seq=1&format=2 |
| 18:45.12 | brac | [For only $1.95 each when QTY 50+ purchased - 6FT A to mini-B 14pin USB cable w/ ferrites for FUJI DIGITAL CAMERA | USB 2.0 Cable - Mini-B Type] |
| 18:45.14 | elg | plus I have a itty little regular usb to mini-b "cable" |
| 18:45.22 | elg | it's not actually a cable, just a connector with two ends |
| 18:45.35 | mrpull | i've had good luck with monoprice |
| 18:45.41 | mrpull | bought a bunch of HDMI cables |
| 18:45.46 | mrpull | they work well and were cheap |
| 18:46.38 | vontrapp | mrpull: can't tell what size that one is, they are the same shape almost, but one is smaller |
| 18:47.26 | mrpull | it says A to mini-B |
| 18:47.31 | mrpull | are you sure it is a mini-B? |
| 18:47.40 | vontrapp | no, must be mini-a |
| 18:47.43 | elg | do you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Universal_Serial_Bus#Mystery_micro_plug |
| 18:47.45 | mrpull | i too have a bunch of those sitting around |
| 18:49.18 | mrpull | ah... the mystery micro plug might be hard to find :) |
| 18:49.29 | vontrapp | or micro a |
| 18:49.51 | vontrapp | i have a bunch of the mini lying around, too |
| 18:49.59 | vontrapp | just not this smaller one i don't have |
| 18:50.10 | vontrapp | anyway, back to card reader |
| 18:50.15 | elg | vontrapp: I know, take a picture of it. ;-) |
| 18:50.18 | vontrapp | CF |
| 18:50.24 | vontrapp | harhar |
| 18:50.43 | vontrapp | i actually could with my phone, which does have a cable |
| 18:51.10 | maquis | ack! |
| 18:51.38 | elg | well there you go. just take pictures with your camera, then take pictures of the pictures you took on the lcd with your phone |
| 18:56.05 | levi | My camera uses the Mystery Micro Plug, unfortunately. |
| 18:56.56 | levi | One of the advantages of using a media card reader instead of hooking the camera directly to the computer is that you don't have to use the camera batteries while downloading the images. |
| 19:00.22 | mrpull | i've left my camera on while transfering and walk away to dead batteries more than once. media can be faster too. |
| 19:01.00 | mrpull | non-standard cables negatively influence my purchasing decision process :) |
| 19:05.24 | nick125 | I really don't care about cables. It's just easier to use a card reader. |
| 19:05.27 | maquis | mrpull: you don't like having a million different plugs lying around? |
| 19:06.02 | mrpull | i hate loosing plugs :) |
| 19:06.20 | mrpull | furthermore i hate replacing missing plugs |
| 19:08.04 | maquis | most of my stuff seems to be pretty standard -- usb or the micro usb |
| 19:09.32 | nick125 | Why can't they use standard connectors? |
| 19:09.58 | unum | I was going to say "same here" but then I realized I only own two peripherals |
| 19:10.08 | nick125 | haha |
| 19:10.14 | levi | nick125: The funky one I've got is so they can use the same connector for both usb and composite video, apparently. |
| 19:16.44 | nick125 | Would it've cost them that much more to put two connectors? |
| 19:17.39 | levi | I'm not sure what their reasoning was, but if they did that, I'd have to keep track of two cables instead of one. |
| 19:18.50 | nick125 | Besides, I'm pretty sure that they could've found some other way to mutulate^Wcleverly abu^Wuse the USB specs to do what they want.. |
| 19:20.06 | Sargun | lol |
| 19:23.40 | nick125 | I'm pretty sure Sargun could think of a way |
| 19:23.49 | Sargun | Hahaha |
| 19:23.52 | Sargun | is evel. |
| 19:24.54 | nick125 | Sargun: I'm kind of ticked off. Centro users get My Location and we lousy Treo users that paid 3 times as much get nothing. |
| 19:26.10 | elg | you get a treo |
| 19:26.17 | Sargun | stabs elg |
| 19:30.12 | RazberrieTart | giggles |
| 19:30.41 | ^Migs^ | gaggles |
| 19:31.00 | findlay | goggles |
| 19:31.58 | maquis | babbles |
| 19:32.04 | nick125 | bobbles |
| 19:32.12 | maquis | bubbles |
| 19:32.24 | findlay | man, I'm tired |
| 19:32.32 | nick125 | findlay: You screwed it up! |
| 19:32.35 | RazberrieTart | is hungry and debating breakfast. |
| 19:32.43 | nick125 | redbeard2: |
| 19:32.44 | nick125 | er |
| 19:32.47 | nick125 | RazberrieTart: This late? |
| 19:32.55 | RazberrieTart | just got up ~20 minutes ago :) |
| 19:33.17 | Sargun | what about the child |
| 19:33.33 | RazberrieTart | The child has been sent to Wisconsin to her relatives for teh summer. |
| 19:34.15 | RazberrieTart | may actually be able to go to the SLLUG meeting in July now ... be interesting. |
| 19:34.45 | findlay | yeah, sllugs |
| 19:34.47 | Sargun | excellent. |
| 19:34.49 | findlay | interesting |
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| 19:46.02 | vontrapp | nick125: what card reader do yu have? |
| 19:46.21 | nick125 | vontrapp: I've got some really old sandisk card reader...let me see if it has a model # |
| 19:46.30 | vontrapp | works in linux? |
| 19:46.44 | nick125 | yeah |
| 19:46.52 | nick125 | Hm. All I see is "ImageMate 8 in 1" |
| 19:47.16 | vontrapp | so... sandisk and CF... |
| 19:49.05 | vontrapp | well, as long as i get one that does usb mass storage i'm good |
| 19:49.25 | vontrapp | do card readers have any special words that correlate to 'mass storage'? |
| 19:49.35 | nick125 | Not as far as I know of |
| 19:49.56 | nick125 | Almost all of the card readers I've seen are USB Mass Storage |
| 19:50.19 | nick125 | well, all of the ones that cost more than $10. |
| 19:50.47 | nick125 | (I have this weird $5 card reader that shows up as a UMS device, but you can't actually mount the card) |
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| 19:58.29 | nick125 | vontrapp: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820308010 < Might be worth a try |
| 19:58.57 | nick125 | vontrapp: By the way, what kind of camera do you have that still uses CF? |
| 20:00.26 | RazberrieTart | 's camera uses CF ... |
| 20:03.07 | elg | nick125: a camera with a lame usb connector |
| 20:12.25 | levi | I wish that my camera that used CF still worked. |
| 20:12.42 | levi | My other cameras are nicer, but that one fits in a pocket. :) |
| 20:12.56 | nick125 | I mean, the only cameras that I've seen that still use CF are usually DSLRs. |
| 20:19.22 | elg | my camera uses light |
| 20:19.40 | elg | eggyknap: pung |
| 20:21.00 | eggyknap | elg: punk |
| 20:21.04 | eggyknap | :) |
| 20:22.22 | elg | hans.fugal.net/tmp/prospectus.pdf |
| 20:22.47 | elg | that's appendix A, you can let me know if anything is missing that probably should be there (and if anything is wrong, misspelled, or makes you want to commit suicide) |
| 20:23.39 | eggyknap | :) |
| 20:24.10 | elg | goes back to polish the actual prospectus now |
| 20:24.26 | eggyknap | elg: sfoter/softer |
| 20:26.41 | elg | sfcheck |
| 20:27.02 | eggyknap | elg: you might also talk about *why* a set of pipes might want to be stuck in a swell box. |
| 20:27.38 | eggyknap | In other words, that one sentence doesn't mention that you open and close the shutters to control volume, and that otherwise the volume of the pipes is typically uncontrollable. |
| 20:28.37 | elg | ok |
| 20:29.11 | eggyknap | I ran into someone once that figured organs would change their volume based on the velocity of the keypress, which surprised me. |
| 20:30.00 | findlay | hahaha |
| 20:30.37 | eggyknap | Another: when you mention the shallot under A.2.2, you don't mention what the shallot is. I notice particularly because I don't know what the shallot is :) |
| 20:30.43 | elg | mostly, people haven't A) thought it through, B) a clue that organ pipes have constant air pressure to them |
| 20:30.52 | elg | after all, flautists can play at different volume |
| 20:31.08 | elg | that would be because I have no idea how to describe a shallot. :) |
| 20:31.19 | eggyknap | Discussion of constant pressure and/or wind chests might be neat, but might also be overkill. |
| 20:31.33 | findlay | I wonder how much the relative overtone presence changes based on air pressure |
| 20:31.42 | elg | yeah, I mention the constant volume in the paper where it's relevant |
| 20:31.56 | elg | findlay: enough that it's a major part of voicing a pipe |
| 20:32.02 | maquis | "flautists" always makes me think of flautas, instead of flutes |
| 20:32.05 | elg | the bigger the toehole the more air pressure |
| 20:32.21 | elg | flutist is also correct, but not as cool. |
| 20:32.28 | findlay | on the modern, symphonic flute the predominant partial is the 1/2, not the fundamental |
| 20:32.54 | elg | the harder you blow, the more harmonics, and you can overblow |
| 20:32.55 | goozbach | laughs at sjansen |
| 20:33.19 | elg | if you ever see a harmonic flute stop, that has a hole halfway up the pipe and overblows to the second harmonic |
| 20:33.35 | elg | just learned that |
| 20:33.39 | findlay | like on a recorder |
| 20:33.50 | sjansen | ? |
| 20:33.57 | findlay | probably the higher partials in the harmonic sequence are higher energy states |
| 20:34.09 | elg | it's amazing what you learn when you actually read the textbook you've had for years |
| 20:34.29 | goozbach | I've got my centos 5.2 repo now (the ENTIRE thing mind you). |
| 20:34.34 | goozbach | I was just assuming you're still chugging behind a torrent |
| 20:35.04 | elg | The Organists' Manual by Roger Davis. I highly recommend it. Not only does it have lots of good info on how to play the organ, and a bunch of literature that is appropriate in church |
| 20:35.14 | elg | it also has this appendix on how the ogan works |
| 20:35.30 | elg | with all this stuff I never knew, that is now going to make me look smart |
| 20:35.41 | eggyknap | elg: perhaps introduce the shallot under A.2, where describing how the reed works, saying that the reed is held between the shallot and wedge. |
| 20:35.44 | elg | and a brief description of major stops you are likely to encounter |
| 20:35.44 | eggyknap | thanks wikipedia |
| 20:35.55 | elg | cool, thanks |
| 20:36.56 | sjansen | ~punish goozbach |
| 20:36.57 | ibot | ACTION forces goozbach to install and use Windows |
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| 20:41.28 | goozbach | re-installs centos 5.2 over a gigibit link.... |
| 20:41.32 | goozbach | BUHAHAHAH!!!! |
| 20:42.48 | goozbach | with a single reboot and completely automated to boot! |
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| 20:51.54 | elg | jake! |
| 20:52.07 | elg | here to talk the doctor with me? |
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| 21:35.19 | tensai | elg: lots of "also called ..." notes in your prospectus. almost like nobody could decide on a consistent naming scheme. |
| 21:35.35 | elg | :) |
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| 21:35.51 | elg | that's what centuries of history across 3+ languages will do to you |
| 21:40.01 | tensai | elg: I counted the total number of visible pipes on my organ. there are 132. |
| 21:40.31 | tensai | is it possible there are more elsewhere? I recall hearing that a lot of the motab pipes aren't actually visible. |
| 21:40.39 | elg | oh yes |
| 21:40.40 | bonez45 | elg has a pipe organ? |
| 21:41.01 | bonez45 | many of them are not..my son and I took the GRANDE TOUR.. of the organ...... |
| 21:41.02 | elg | in fact sometimes more than half of the visible pipes are just façade |
| 21:41.15 | elg | but that's less common on small organs, where space and $$ are tight |
| 21:41.22 | bonez45 | it's a rats nest of bellows, blowers, pipes..and ancient electronics under that stage at the tabernacle... |
| 21:42.00 | elg | you said 8 ranks right? that's on the order of 400-500 pipes |
| 21:42.38 | tensai | elg: 6 ranks |
| 21:42.59 | elg | ah, still |
| 21:43.02 | bonez45 | I think the MoTab has 11 ranks.. |
| 21:43.06 | elg | here's an interior view of a pipe organ |
| 21:43.06 | elg | http://pipedreams.publicradio.org/articles/how_a_pipe_organ_works/images/dombedos2.jpg |
| 21:43.24 | RazberrieTart | stares |
| 21:43.42 | elg | http://elliottrl.tripod.com/tab/spec.html |
| 21:43.44 | brac | [Pipe Organs of Temple Square] |
| 21:43.54 | elg | 147 speaking stops, 206 ranks |
| 21:43.58 | elg | 11,623 pipes |
| 21:44.05 | bonez45 | ah..you are right.. |
| 21:44.18 | tensai | 11 ranks didn't seem like quite enough |
| 21:45.45 | bonez45 | I was WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY off |
| 21:46.25 | tensai | elg: what's a toe? |
| 21:46.45 | RazberrieTart | it's the wiggly bit at the end of the "foot" |
| 21:46.48 | RazberrieTart | ;) |
| 21:46.59 | elg | http://www.lawrencephelps.com/Graphics/sideview.gif |
| 21:47.13 | elg | where the pipe tapers at the bottom and attaches to the windchest |
| 21:47.19 | elg | the area below the mouth is the foot |
| 21:47.28 | elg | the toe is where it connects to the wind chest |
| 21:47.47 | RazberrieTart | Your anatomy is all wrong ;) |
| 21:47.52 | tensai | that little guy sure seems happy |
| 21:47.53 | RazberrieTart | shuts up now |
| 21:48.10 | elg | and why not? |
| 21:48.30 | elg | he's from http://www.lawrencephelps.com/Documents/Articles/Beginner/pipeorgans101.html |
| 21:48.32 | brac | [Pipe Organs 101] |
| 21:48.42 | elg | oh look, better image. http://www.lawrencephelps.com/Graphics/pipe1.gif |
| 21:49.47 | elg | some of the tabernacle pipes are on the way other end of the tabernacle |
| 21:49.51 | elg | in the walls |
| 21:53.29 | tensai | what's a "speaking stop"? |
| 21:53.55 | elg | one that makes noise |
| 21:54.09 | tensai | as opposed to? |
| 21:54.24 | elg | since stop is an overloaded term, referring to the rank, the mechanism of actually stopping, and the little knobs |
| 21:54.42 | elg | little knobs like Great to Swell might be called stops (arguably inaccurately, but still) |
| 21:54.50 | elg | and wouldn't be considered speaking stops, obviously |
| 21:54.58 | tensai | ok |
| 21:55.22 | elg | tremolo another example |
| 21:55.33 | tensai | interesting. the conference center organ has a midi interface. |
| 21:56.05 | elg | ya, very common nowdays |
| 21:57.27 | tensai | so you could hook it up to aeolus :) |
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| 22:31.56 | elg | or you could hook your laptop up with your humanly-impossible midi file |
| 22:33.03 | ^Migs^ | I'd like to make a MIDI ringtone from the conference center organ |
| 22:44.26 | Tene | http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/talk/1418 followed by http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/talk/1417 |
| 22:52.40 | elg | eggyknap, et al: http://hans.fugal.net/tmp/prospectus.pdf |
| 22:52.51 | elg | now new and improved (10 pages) |
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| 23:05.48 | sjansen | So I've spent a couple of hours using KDE4 on openSUSE 11.0 |
| 23:05.57 | elg | masochist |
| 23:06.05 | sjansen | KDE4 is very not ready. |
| 23:06.16 | nick125 | hahah |
| 23:06.33 | sjansen | Pretty, though. |
| 23:11.05 | goozbach | checka this: http://monome.org/articles/2008/06/11/kits-approaching/ |
| 23:11.16 | goozbach | interesting interface kit to a beat software |
| 23:12.44 | sjansen | Looks like a physical version of old tracker music editors. |
| 23:12.52 | tensai | elg: this version answers a lot of my questions from the previous one, primarily "what's the point?" |
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| 23:13.03 | elg | that's good |
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| 23:17.17 | tensai | I'll read it more thoroughly later and comment if I think of anything |
| 23:18.23 | sjansen | wonders why changing the fonts in KDE's Control Panel changed Konqueror but didn't change Konversation |
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| 23:37.01 | tensai | ~echelon fodder |
| 23:37.02 | ibot | from memory, echelon fodder is Bush, Uranium, Dirty Bomb, Jihad, Allah Akbar, TNT, Rent a van, assassination , NSA, wiretaps, sleeper cell, suicide bomb, vest, Oklahoma City, Waco, revenge, anthrax, virgins, fuse, great celebration, July 4th, detcord, martyr, timer, backpack, subway. Ruby Ridge |
| 23:37.51 | RazberrieTart | Because Konversation has it's own font place. |
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