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| 00:02.59 | nick125 | Sargun: We really should work on something. I'm open to almost anything. |
| 00:03.18 | lakshmi | nick125 if your really that bored why dont you make me something cool? :-) |
| 00:03.45 | nick125 | no |
| 00:09.30 | Sargun | I like pelican cases. |
| 00:29.31 | nick125 | hmm...what are some good news sites? |
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| 01:52.03 | tensai | wow. sometimes it's enough to just say "sorry". |
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| 02:51.40 | Sargun_screen | I'm bored |
| 02:58.38 | lakshmi | Sargun_screen me too |
| 02:58.47 | lakshmi | Sargun_screen would u like to have a dell tossing contest with me/ |
| 02:58.47 | lakshmi | ? |
| 02:58.58 | lakshmi | you can throw your dell laptop and i can throw mine |
| 02:59.05 | lakshmi | whoever throws it the farthest wins |
| 03:02.33 | Sargun_screen | i am very good at making emeis |
| 03:02.38 | Sargun_screen | enemies even |
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| 03:03.24 | lakshmi | Sargun_screen why do u say that? |
| 03:15.29 | dilvie | hmm |
| 03:16.05 | dilvie | is anybody using Bungee? |
| 03:16.47 | nick125 | bungee? |
| 03:17.06 | dilvie | bungeeconnect.com |
| 03:19.06 | mrpull-lt | dilvie: I'm aware of them, but haven't tried it |
| 03:20.34 | dilvie | it looks pretty compelling... |
| 03:21.31 | dilvie | like a RAD tool that allows you to produce and deploy applications, all hosted, all on demand... |
| 03:21.42 | mrpull-lt | are you aware that they are a utah company? |
| 03:21.43 | dilvie | and you can deploy to Amazon's cloud services platform.. |
| 03:21.54 | mrpull-lt | it is pretty sexy |
| 03:21.55 | dilvie | I am aware of that, yes. |
| 03:21.58 | nick125 | mm...too many buzzwords on one page. |
| 03:22.33 | dilvie | nick: um, I'd love to explain it without buzzwords... |
| 03:23.17 | dilvie | umm.. is IDE still a buzzword? |
| 03:23.27 | dilvie | hosted IDE? |
| 03:23.39 | dilvie | am I allowed to say "deploy"? |
| 03:24.06 | nick125 | I was referring to their site. |
| 03:24.23 | dilvie | hehe |
| 03:26.31 | dilvie | One thing I find interesting is that they charge for it like a utility |
| 03:26.48 | dilvie | which is attractive to me because I don't have to make a big investment up front |
| 03:27.06 | dilvie | and I was already sold on cloud hosting for my applications.. |
| 03:27.56 | dilvie | I don't like the limitations I've run into with colocating servers, managed hosting, etc... |
| 03:28.22 | dilvie | one thing I worry about. |
| 03:28.32 | dilvie | what happens if Google or MS buy them and shelf the project? |
| 03:28.48 | dilvie | shelves the project, rather.. |
| 03:29.10 | dilvie | are my applications left in limbo? Do I lose access to them, or to the development environment? |
| 03:29.44 | dilvie | Both Google and MS are developing platforms that will be competing in some way with BungeeConnect. |
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| 03:32.06 | mrpull-lt | as long as it is closed, there is a risk |
| 03:32.15 | mrpull-lt | that is a big downside I suppose |
| 03:32.20 | sontek | Bungee's has been the best I've seen |
| 03:32.36 | dilvie | Sontek: I agree. |
| 03:32.56 | dilvie | mrpull: I agree with that, too. |
| 03:33.18 | mrpull-lt | i wonder if their intention is to get bought by a giant and exit soon or tough it out for the long run |
| 03:34.04 | dilvie | I think there is an opportunity for them to make the platform open-source, and still provide a hosted solution at utility price... |
| 03:34.14 | dilvie | of course, competition will spring up and try to under-cut them |
| 03:34.25 | dilvie | but they will be the gold standard, because they built the thing.. |
| 03:34.33 | mrpull-lt | there is value in getting everything end to end from one provider |
| 03:34.47 | dilvie | I know two of the founders -- quite well. I could ask them. =) |
| 03:35.34 | mrpull-lt | i've crossed paths with Lyle Ball in a previous life. he is a good guy. |
| 03:37.12 | dilvie | Dave Mitchell and my uncles grew up together. |
| 03:37.26 | dilvie | in upstate New York |
| 03:38.02 | dilvie | The Mitchell family have been very close friends with our family for decades. I regularly see Dave at family events. |
| 03:39.44 | dilvie | I know Dave's previous company was purchased by Citrix, which gave all the stock-holders a nice bonus, but quickly led to everybody being unemployed. |
| 03:40.07 | dilvie | and I don't hear anything about the product they created for that one anymore.. |
| 03:41.42 | mrpull-lt | startups are a mixed bag |
| 03:41.55 | dilvie | This one looks really good, though. |
| 03:41.59 | dilvie | I'm pretty much sold. |
| 03:42.10 | dilvie | if I can wrap my head around how to be productive with it... |
| 03:44.44 | dilvie | jdjd |
| 03:44.46 | dilvie | hehe |
| 03:44.52 | dilvie | is it wise to bank my startup on his startup? |
| 03:45.18 | dilvie | and is my opinion of the company biased because of the family connection? |
| 03:45.23 | dilvie | tough questions. =) |
| 03:45.43 | nick125 | would rather use open-source stuff...don't have to worry about them going out of business ;-) |
| 03:46.14 | dilvie | nick125: is there an open-source alternative that delivers the same sort of functionality? |
| 03:46.55 | nick125 | I'm not exactly sure what Bungee does.. |
| 03:47.01 | dilvie | everything else I can think of seems to be a build everything yourself kind of solution |
| 03:48.56 | dilvie | nick: it's a platform / service that features a capable IDE that lets you import all sorts of web services into your project and connect them visually to your application, with c-family syntax controlling the logic... |
| 03:50.56 | dilvie | once you have your application designed, you deploy it to their cloud hosting service (or the amazon cloud) |
| 03:51.13 | dilvie | you don't have to worry about things like load balancing or server infrastructure |
| 03:51.22 | dilvie | that's all managed for you automagically. |
| 03:55.06 | dilvie | you also don't have to worry about collaboration tools or version control |
| 03:55.12 | dilvie | that's all built-in, too. |
| 04:00.55 | dilvie | It's in Bungee's best interest to get people using the platform. I wonder if they would be interested in collaborating on video tutorials - walking us through the process of creating an example application in Bungee... |
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| 05:36.55 | findlay | man, there are some violent irc commands: kick, kickban, kill, knockout |
| 05:37.12 | nick125 | lol |
| 05:37.16 | findlay | die |
| 05:37.56 | findlay | maybe some of those are irssi-specific |
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| 07:19.10 | sargun-palm | hi |
| 07:20.14 | nick125 | hi |
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| 07:55.17 | Sargun | that's not cool |
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| 07:55.52 | Sargun | s appropriate to enforce its rights and pursue available remedies. |
| 07:55.54 | Sargun | that too |
| 07:56.33 | Sargun | How do you think SmugMug would feel if I uploaded 750TB of images? |
| 07:57.45 | nick125 | Sargun: I'd be more worried about how you would feel. |
| 07:57.50 | Sargun | lol |
| 07:58.02 | Sargun | why? |
| 07:58.21 | nick125 | Because you'd be ":(" after they terminate your account. |
| 07:58.57 | Sargun | oh |
| 07:59.07 | Sargun | I was hoping they wouldn't terminate it |
| 07:59.19 | nick125 | Right.. |
| 07:59.24 | nick125 | mm |
| 07:59.34 | nick125 | grabs an egg and cracks it open over his laptop's heatsink |
| 08:00.08 | nick125 | 190F according to the e17 temp monitor... |
| 08:01.07 | nick125 | temperature: 88 C |
| 08:01.45 | Sargun | try it |
| 08:02.02 | nick125 | I actually wanted to attach a skillet to my prescott |
| 08:02.37 | Sargun | Push it out to your stove. |
| 08:03.03 | nick125 | Have like...five or six 1/4 inch heatpipes come out of the back of the case to the cooktop surface on top of the case (it'd be like...cast iron attached to the top) |
| 08:04.10 | nick125 | waits for Qt to finish emerging |
| 08:04.21 | nick125 | Sargun: So, you using portage 2.2_rc1 yet? |
| 08:04.37 | Sargun | why |
| 08:04.46 | nick125 | because it's awesome |
| 08:04.50 | Sargun | how so? |
| 08:05.01 | nick125 | Read my advertisement in #bitbucket :P |
| 08:05.10 | Sargun | Portage 2.1.4.4 |
| 08:05.17 | nick125 | Yeah, that's old and lame. |
| 08:05.28 | Sargun | ooh |
| 08:05.29 | Sargun | really |
| 08:05.32 | nick125 | Sargun: The biggest feature is that portage 2.2 won't break dependancies |
| 08:05.34 | Sargun | Screw you |
| 08:05.37 | nick125 | well, library dependancies |
| 08:05.37 | Sargun | kills nick125 |
| 08:05.48 | nick125 | It basically makes revdep-rebuild useless |
| 08:05.48 | Sargun | beats nick125 and steals version >2.1 |
| 08:05.52 | Sargun | aww |
| 08:05.57 | Sargun | I loved revdep-rebuild |
| 08:06.08 | nick125 | Sargun: You'll love preserve-libs even better. |
| 08:06.22 | nick125 | Because instead of breaking stuff and fixing it, it just avoids breaking them. |
| 08:06.42 | Sargun | or you could just use RHEL |
| 08:06.48 | Sargun | and have more fun with RPM hell |
| 08:06.55 | nick125 | Then when you want to get rid of the old libraries, you run emerge @preserved-rebuild and once it rebuilds everything that depends on those old libraries, it'll remove them. |
| 08:07.38 | nick125 | Sargun: nah, I'll stick with portage. |
| 08:07.49 | Sargun | Or an enterprise quality OS |
| 08:07.51 | Sargun | like Windows |
| 08:07.53 | Sargun | or MAC OS X |
| 08:08.13 | nick125 | haha |
| 08:55.30 | nick125 | Sargun: You should try HDR. |
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| 17:30.18 | tensai | just sent his first response to a craigslist post |
| 17:33.13 | elg | anyone have a danish butter cookies tin lying around? |
| 17:34.31 | findlay | broadcast this morning was fun, Clay played an awesome toccata |
| 17:38.47 | tensai | elg: I have a cookie tin. not sure what it says. you're welcome to come and get it. |
| 17:39.08 | elg | not sure what it says? is it in danish or something? |
| 17:39.13 | elg | i just want the ingredient list |
| 17:40.01 | tensai | I'd have to go look and see what kind of cookies were in it, is what I mean |
| 17:40.14 | elg | ah. well nevermind, i found it on walgreen's site |
| 17:40.16 | elg | http://aarp.walgreens.com/store/product.jsp?CATID=100537&navAction=jump&navCount=1&skuid=sku2662489&id=prod2663052 |
| 17:40.18 | brac | [Danish Butter Cookies | Royal Dansk | Walgreens] |
| 17:40.29 | elg | but i'm wondering if that's right. butter milk? |
| 17:40.35 | elg | or is that butter, milk? |
| 17:42.04 | tensai | glad you found it. this tin doesn't list any ingredients. |
| 17:42.46 | tensai | I bet it's "butter, milk" |
| 17:42.58 | elg | yeah. wouldn't be much of butter cookies without butter |
| 17:43.07 | tensai | notice it also says "artificial flavor vanilla" |
| 17:43.52 | elg | you think that's artificial flavor, vanilla? |
| 17:43.58 | elg | or artificial vanilla flavor? |
| 17:44.14 | elg | maybe I'll just have to swing by walgreens and get me a tin |
| 17:44.17 | elg | in the name of science |
| 18:09.50 | tensai | elg: you don't already have a good sugar cookie recipe? |
| 18:10.56 | elg | is there such a thing? |
| 18:11.00 | elg | these aren't sugar cookies |
| 18:11.12 | elg | more closely related to shortbread |
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| 19:12.29 | tensai | elg: isn't shortbread just overcooked sugar cookies? |
| 19:13.06 | tensai | maybe not, but they are pretty similar. heavy on the butter and sugar, easy on the gluten. |
| 19:40.18 | sontek | nobody likes gluten |
| 19:48.15 | tristanbob_ | has anyone tried Virtual Iron? apparently it includes Suse + Xen + proprietary features that make it similar to VMware |
| 19:52.04 | sontek | I haven't heard of it, but sounds pretty cool |
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| 20:00.36 | Tene | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2jlIRKswnQ |
| 20:01.05 | sontek | Utah always creates the coolest stuff :D |
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| 20:12.19 | fozzmoo | I love the cheerful manner in which the following line was delivered: "Eventually, exoskeletons could even become autonomous, allowing the soldier to step out and then to go on to perform a task on its own." |
| 20:12.34 | fozzmoo | You know... like bake cookies. |
| 20:12.48 | fozzmoo | Cut hair. |
| 20:12.55 | Tene | laughs. |
| 20:26.23 | RazberrieTart | giggles |
| 20:26.41 | linuxalien | Mmmmm cookies |
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| 20:30.37 | sontek | If I can get an exo-skeleton that bakes cookies I'll be able to get rid of katie! |
| 21:09.49 | peno | ~replace sontek |
| 21:09.50 | ibot | ACTION replaces sontek with a very small shell script |
| 21:11.53 | nick125 | needs to get a tripod |
| 21:20.15 | sontek | ~opensuse peno |
| 21:21.54 | sontek | ibot: opensuse $peno is <action> improves $peno's performance, stability, and over all look at feel. |
| 21:21.55 | ibot | okay, sontek |
| 21:21.58 | sontek | ~opensuse peno |
| 21:21.58 | ibot | ACTION improves peno's performance, stability, and over all look at feel. |
| 21:22.12 | RazberrieTart | giggles |
| 21:23.44 | peno | ~heartsbane sontek |
| 21:23.45 | ibot | sontek is a great example of the only thing good about kids is making them |
| 21:23.51 | peno | :) |
| 21:24.26 | peno | sontek: i'm enjoying non utah beer. |
| 21:32.03 | sontek | Thats always a good time |
| 21:32.40 | peno | a very good time |
| 21:33.01 | peno | one of my wife's cousins wants to take me to the local micro brews here. |
| 21:33.31 | sontek | so you are just enjoying the non-watered down beer, haven't tried any of the local brew yet? |
| 21:34.20 | peno | not yet! Soon! |
| 21:34.41 | peno | the women are going shopping tomorrow, and the men are going drinking! |
| 21:35.53 | sontek | w00t! |
| 21:36.18 | sontek | The only excitement I've had this weekend is installing openSUSE 11.0 on all my servers :P |
| 21:36.22 | sontek | almost as fun as being out of Utah |
| 21:36.42 | peno | that sounds boring |
| 22:08.51 | nick125 | dang, how many pictures do I have on here.. |
| 22:50.36 | elg | tensai: shortbread is more butter, less sugar |
| 22:53.50 | sontek | hmm, anything with more butter less sugar sounds like a bad idea |
| 22:53.52 | sontek | sugar > * |
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| 23:23.33 | tensai | I fail to see how you can go wrong with more butter |
| 23:24.24 | sontek | more butter if fine, but less sugar is not! :P |
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| 23:38.59 | tripzero | ping anyone |
| 23:40.06 | nick125 | pong |
| 23:43.46 | RazberrieTart | makes pong type noises |
| 23:44.59 | tripzero | hehe |