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| 00:34.31 | levi | Heh. All the ranting about small lot sizes is funny, considering the conservative libertarian bent of the list in general. |
| 00:36.14 | levi | They'd all be whining about how housing wasn't affordable because of government intervention if the lots were forced to be larger than what people were demanding. |
| 00:37.01 | findlay | uses the invisible market hand to slap levi for blaspheme |
| 00:37.24 | levi | The fact is, Utah is a freakin' mess because there not *enough* regulation of construction. |
| 00:37.51 | findlay | regulation, regulation |
| 00:38.06 | findlay | it can quite easily get in the way of almost anything |
| 00:38.32 | findlay | but some people are generally unscrupulous |
| 00:39.06 | levi | All the cores of the old cities in Utah are pretty well-organized because they were pretty much centrally planned by the church. And all the new development is a complete mess, because there's no central planning going on. |
| 00:39.59 | findlay | levi: you mean the unscrupulous city councils are passing off pork zoning |
| 00:40.26 | levi | findlay: It's not about being unscrupulous, it's about being self-interested without enough of a long-term (or higher-level) viewpoint. |
| 00:40.41 | findlay | I bet most city councils don't have the self control to hold themselves to a master plan |
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| 00:46.12 | findlay | elg: ping |
| 00:46.14 | findlay | ! |
| 00:46.33 | elg | tensai, eggyknap: you asked me questions. I noticed just before my irc client crashed and lost them |
| 00:46.37 | elg | pong |
| 00:47.23 | findlay | elg: I've decided I want to get a turtle beach external sound card. Do you know if they work with Linux? |
| 00:47.34 | findlay | the external, USB ones? |
| 00:47.41 | elg | if they adhere to the usb audio specs they should |
| 00:47.52 | findlay | usb audio specs? |
| 00:47.56 | elg | and I think they would |
| 00:47.59 | elg | yeah, usb audio protocol |
| 00:48.04 | findlay | hm |
| 00:48.33 | findlay | if it works, I'll record you some organ samples with it :) |
| 00:49.13 | elg | have a link for one in particular? |
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| 00:50.37 | findlay | there's only 3 on their site. I'm thinking of getting the mid-grade one: http://www.turtlebeach.com/products/amigo/home.aspx |
| 01:00.07 | elg | findlay: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EGJXBC/ref=cm_rdp_product |
| 01:00.20 | elg | one of the reviewers there reports it works perfectly in linux |
| 01:00.43 | elg | and it seems to be the same one, though it's hard to tell for sure. in any case, if one of their usb sound cards works in linux I'm sure the others do |
| 01:10.19 | findlay | if not I'll call them up and complain |
| 01:12.02 | findlay | ~lart proprietary databases that have ridiculously short maximum sessions and that log you out of the page with info on it you still needed so they could tell you huffily how you put too much strain on their system |
| 01:12.02 | ibot | says "boot to the head" and knocks proprietary databases that have ridiculously short maximum sessions and that log you out of the page with info on it you still needed so they could tell you huffily how you put too much strain on their system over |
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| 01:12.46 | elg | -metar klru |
| 01:12.47 | brac | KLRU 180050Z AUTO 20005KT 10SM CLR 39/02 A2999 RMK AO2 |
| 01:12.54 | elg | -weather klru |
| 01:12.55 | brac | 23 minutes ago, on Wed Jun 18 00:50:00 UTC 2008, the wind was blowing at a speed of 2.57 meters per second (5.75 miles per hour) from the South/Southwest at KLRU. The temperature was 39 degrees Celsius (102 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1015 hPa (29.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 10.1%. The sky was clear. |
| 01:15.19 | findlay | elg: the main reason I'm preferring an external device is to improve RF interference from the computer. Is this a valid assumption? |
| 01:15.51 | findlay | s/improve/reduce/ |
| 01:16.14 | elg | i suppose it's a factor, esp. if you use a longish cable |
| 01:16.39 | findlay | and all their internal cards are PCI |
| 01:16.50 | elg | pci isn't hip enough for you? |
| 01:17.25 | elg | otoh, you probably get more bang for your buck with an internal card (if this isn't a laptop) |
| 01:17.43 | findlay | elg: no. I expect a soundcard I buy today to outlast the lame duck era of PCI |
| 01:18.25 | elg | pci is and has been sufficient for sound cards, and I don't see pci disappearing completely anytime soon |
| 01:19.18 | elg | 3.3 volt pci cards will work in a pci-x slot |
| 01:20.17 | levi | elg: No one uses PCI-X anymore. |
| 01:20.18 | elg | or is pci-e the one that's making headway? i can never remember |
| 01:20.41 | levi | PCI-E is the new serial PCI that's the new hotness. |
| 01:21.04 | findlay | stupid hotness. It' |
| 01:21.21 | findlay | s just an excuse for the manufactures to make us rebuy all their stuff |
| 01:22.28 | elg | so what were you hoping to get if not pci-e? |
| 01:22.46 | levi | Well, go for USB then. :P |
| 01:22.48 | elg | doesn't look like you can put a pci card in a pci-e slot, but i'm sure there will be converters |
| 01:23.02 | levi | elg: I doubt it. |
| 01:23.56 | levi | PCI is to PCI-E as ATA is to SATA. |
| 01:24.45 | levi | The transition is handled by providing legacy slots for a time period, not by making converters. |
| 01:26.00 | levi | So, this problem in my web programming class is horribly underspecified. |
| 01:26.20 | findlay | pci has been around for at least two ages. Will pci-e last as long? |
| 01:27.43 | elg | i have an pci sata converter |
| 01:28.11 | levi | elg: That's not a sata to ata converter, it's a sata chipset in a pci card. |
| 01:28.32 | elg | http://www.magma.com/products/pci/PE6R4/index.html |
| 01:28.33 | brac | [Magma 6 Slot PCI-X Expansion, Model PE6R4] |
| 01:30.04 | levi | elg: Uh. |
| 01:30.53 | elg | "However, many companies have invested a lot of money on solutions built around legacy PCI and PCI-X hardware. The Magma expansion system provides a migration path to PCI Express while protecting your PCI hardware investment. " |
| 01:30.55 | levi | While that is technically a PCI-E to PCI converter, I don't think it falls within the scope of what we were discussing. It's a freakin' external rackmount chassis. |
| 01:31.23 | elg | it is an example in the right ballpark though. |
| 01:31.43 | elg | if one can make an external rackmount chassis, may not they make smaller adapters to go inside? |
| 01:32.02 | nick125 | USB is probably going to be replaced before PCI is depreciated. |
| 01:32.06 | levi | Not cost effective for consumer stuff. It would be cheaper to buy a new consumer card. |
| 01:33.13 | findlay | nick125: you mean by USB-3 or some other connectivity? |
| 01:33.20 | nick125 | findlay: probably. |
| 01:33.30 | levi | nick125: 'depreciate' and 'deprecate' are two different things. |
| 01:33.31 | findlay | because USB seems pretty self backwards compatible |
| 01:33.58 | nick125 | okay? |
| 01:34.28 | levi | nick125: Just thought you might want to know. |
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| 01:36.57 | levi | elg: Actually, probably all you need is a riser card with a PCI bridge chip. But I still doubt the existence of such a thing in the consumer market, because it won't fit in a standard chassis. |
| 01:37.37 | levi | elg: Thus that beast that lives in an external chassis. |
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| 01:43.00 | findlay | well, if you had a sound card in an external enclosure, that should cut down on EM interference :) |
| 01:45.32 | levi | Possibly. |
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| 02:10.00 | RazberrieTart | 'waves' |
| 02:20.35 | tensai | elg: I said "I recompiled arts to use jack as a back-end, which is cool but with this non-rt kernel I'm getting way too many xruns" |
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| 02:47.07 | atoponce | what am i missing? |
| 02:47.18 | atoponce | $1 contains either 'start' or 'stop' |
| 02:47.52 | RazberrieTart | "yield for pedestrians" ? |
| 02:47.54 | atoponce | if [[ $1 != 'start' -o $1 != 'stop' ]]; then echo foo; exit 1; fi |
| 02:47.55 | RazberrieTart | ;) |
| 02:48.16 | atoponce | syntax error in conditional expression |
| 02:48.35 | atoponce | syntax error near `-o' |
| 02:52.24 | elg | ah, cool |
| 02:52.36 | elg | you might try softmode. the xruns are less noticeable |
| 02:53.16 | elg | did you try longer periods and/or higher number of periods? that can help xruns (at the cost of latency, but you're probably not striving for ultra-low latency) |
| 02:57.26 | Sargun_screen | pele do not change |
| 02:57.41 | Sargun_screen | even people |
| 03:00.48 | Sargun_screen | nick125: |
| 03:02.37 | lakshmi | how so Sargun_screen ? |
| 03:03.35 | Sargun_screen | gah |
| 03:05.25 | Sargun_screen | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:18.15 | tensai | elg: looks like longer periods did it. 2048/4 seems to work well. |
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| 03:27.46 | tensai | elg: http://www.zmonkey.org/~tensai/organ/ |
| 03:27.48 | brac | [Index of /~tensai/organ] |
| 03:28.48 | tensai | elg: pictures of my ward's organ and a list of the stops |
| 03:35.28 | elg | jpgs need to be chmod +r |
| 03:36.26 | RazberrieTart | You know you're in Utah when ... :D |
| 03:38.13 | tensai | elg: fixed |
| 03:40.17 | elg | and how many ranks does it claim to have? i can't make it out |
| 03:40.48 | levi | RazberrieTart: And elg's not even in Utah. |
| 03:41.04 | RazberrieTart | levi: hehe, really ? :D |
| 03:42.53 | levi | RazberrieTart: He's doing research on how to recognize organ stops via computer software. |
| 03:43.51 | tensai | elg: it claims 6 ranks |
| 03:44.08 | levi | RazberrieTart: Or ranks, or something organy like that. |
| 03:44.17 | levi | I'm not really an organ person. |
| 03:44.42 | tensai | are you an organ donor? |
| 03:44.55 | RazberrieTart | Ahh... |
| 03:45.08 | elg | well, the salicional 8 and the salicet 4 are probably the same rank, and so with the bass flute 8, flute 4, piccolo 2 (and maybe the harmonic/concert flute by different names on the swell/great?) |
| 03:46.04 | levi | Well, I've got a full complement of *those* kinds of organs. |
| 03:47.13 | elg | prestant == octave and probably the same rank as the principals, bourdon 16 may be that same flute rank, fagot 8 and clarion 4 may be the same |
| 03:47.34 | levi | RazberrieTart: So, what are you up to? |
| 03:47.45 | elg | and then there's the voix celeste and the lieblich gedeckt |
| 03:48.16 | RazberrieTart | levi: 5'3" |
| 03:48.17 | RazberrieTart | ;) |
| 03:48.25 | elg | principal, flute, reed, string, vox, |
| 03:48.37 | elg | i'm gonna guess two flute ranks |
| 03:48.48 | findlay | ~convert 5'3" to parsecs |
| 03:48.54 | elg | they definitely had a creative mind when naming the stops to make it seem like a bigger organ. :) |
| 03:49.07 | findlay | ~convert 63" to parsecs |
| 03:49.22 | elg | funny that they tipped their hand by putting "6 ranks" right on the front |
| 03:49.23 | findlay | ~convert 63 inches to parsecs |
| 03:49.26 | Supaplex | -excuse |
| 03:49.31 | brac | According to Microsoft, it's by design |
| 03:49.32 | elg | i imagine it's not entirely uncommon on small organs though. |
| 03:50.09 | levi | That's not very many parsecs. |
| 03:50.35 | elg | looks like a very nice organ for church in any case |
| 03:51.00 | elg | bet it sounds great, and enough versatility to really do some nice things in prelude/postlude |
| 03:52.08 | levi | RazberrieTart: Time to grow some more! |
| 03:56.25 | RazberrieTart | levi: Out doesn't count, though :D ... and working w/ the main support ppl w/ teh distro I run, and seeing if we can get a booth at the utah linuxfest thing in August. |
| 03:56.28 | RazberrieTart | Rad. Quite rad. |
| 03:56.38 | RazberrieTart | ... and was on teh phone. |
| 03:58.08 | levi | Utah linuxfest, eh? What goes on there? |
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| 03:59.17 | RazberrieTart | Heck if I know, I just found out about it today :D but I'm going |
| 03:59.32 | RazberrieTart | and hopefully have a sidux booth, too |
| 04:01.32 | tensai | elg: the only pipe organs I've ever heard in person are this one and the motab, so I don't have a lot of basis to judge |
| 04:01.57 | tensai | but it sounds good to my ear anyway |
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| 04:02.17 | findlay | tensai: many church organs I've heard are quite out of tune |
| 04:03.46 | RazberrieTart | likes the one at Wastach Preesby... and the organist is ... amazing. |
| 04:03.51 | RazberrieTart | So that could be part of it. |
| 04:04.17 | levi | RazberrieTart: You could record it and help elg with his research. |
| 04:04.56 | findlay | the cathedral organ in SLC is awesome |
| 04:04.59 | RazberrieTart | Hm, not much good I'd be at helping, I just know i like listening ot their organist :D |
| 04:05.12 | findlay | probably the coolest hall to play organ music in Utah |
| 04:05.24 | findlay | second is the Assembly hall at Temple Square |
| 04:05.32 | findlay | then the one in Gardner Hall |
| 04:07.24 | levi | I'm afraid I'm neither really into Linux distributions or organs. |
| 04:07.43 | RazberrieTart | ! |
| 04:07.58 | findlay | well, then what are you here for levi!? |
| 04:08.14 | findlay | plan9? I knew it |
| 04:08.34 | levi | Well, I'm somewhat into Linux, just not Linux distributions. |
| 04:08.44 | RazberrieTart | Ah |
| 04:08.46 | RazberrieTart | 'sok then |
| 04:08.52 | RazberrieTart | I'm here because um ... |
| 04:08.52 | findlay | what about Disney distribution? |
| 04:08.57 | RazberrieTart | It's fun. |
| 04:09.14 | findlay | ~fun |
| 04:09.14 | ibot | rumour has it, fun is what I'm not |
| 04:09.15 | RazberrieTart | (I lie, I like linux, too.) |
| 04:09.35 | Supaplex | you lub it |
| 04:09.55 | findlay | ~love linux |
| 04:09.56 | ibot | If you love linux so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 04:10.22 | Supaplex | so everyone get their firefox3 today? |
| 04:10.25 | RazberrieTart | Nope. |
| 04:10.40 | levi | I installed it at work. |
| 04:10.47 | peno | on just about every box now. |
| 04:11.42 | findlay | I've been running ff3 for months |
| 04:12.06 | levi | I used to work on Linux embedded systems and some kernel drivers for various little things. |
| 04:12.22 | levi | Now I mostly use QNX. |
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| 04:16.13 | vontrapp | does firefox have a way to save a mini cookie jar from just one site, like for use in curl |
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| 04:21.56 | Supaplex | notices addons.mozilla.org is tEh hamm0r'd |
| 04:22.30 | findlay | -google QNX |
| 04:22.31 | brac | QNX: http://www.qnx.com/ |
| 04:23.44 | Sargun | -quote scox |
| 04:23.46 | Sargun | -quote sco |
| 04:23.52 | Sargun | ~quot msft |
| 04:23.56 | Sargun | ~quote msft |
| 04:23.59 | Sargun | ... |
| 04:24.00 | Sargun | ;-( |
| 04:24.03 | Sargun | ~quote sco |
| 04:24.03 | Sargun | ~quote scox |
| 04:25.49 | RazberrieTart | :D |
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| 04:35.00 | Supaplex | ibot: sco |
| 04:35.00 | ibot | [sco] the new name for Caldera, and they're making right fools of themselves, or the antichrist, or supposed to sue linux users today, or a bunch of jerks EFAIL (a cruel errno.h irony) |
| 04:37.08 | sontek | ~quote java |
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| 04:49.23 | levi | watches Blackbeard's Ghost. |
| 04:50.51 | Supaplex | leaves to count the black dots in the darkness before falling asleep |
| 04:53.09 | findlay | ~java sontek |
| 04:53.10 | ibot | Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: sontek |
| 04:54.23 | RazberrieTart | is listening to her GF flip out |
| 04:55.30 | levi | What about? |
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| 04:56.04 | RazberrieTart | She's the sound tech for wasatch presby, and has sound crises exploding on her. |
| 04:56.57 | levi | Uh oh. |
| 04:57.16 | sontek | is listening to his gf yelling at pirates on tv... shes playing civilizations |
| 04:57.24 | RazberrieTart | Nothing like people dying and no one notifying sound that they need ... sound ... for the funeral :D |
| 04:57.35 | RazberrieTart | Hm, it'll get worked out :D |
| 05:05.20 | levi | Good luck with that. |
| 05:07.13 | RazberrieTart | Yep, all worked out. |
| 05:09.43 | levi | Nice. |
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| 13:45.28 | ibot | ok, Sargun_screen |
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| 13:45.38 | ibot | ok, Sargun_screen |
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| 14:22.26 | ibot | ok, Sargun_screen |
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| 14:22.29 | ibot | Sargun_screen: ok |
| 14:23.14 | ^Migs^ | what do I restart after changing /etc/hosts? |
| 14:24.34 | Sargun_screen | nothing. |
| 14:25.38 | vontrapp | possibly your browser |
| 14:26.07 | vontrapp | it might cache the ip |
| 14:26.15 | vontrapp | or so i've heard |
| 14:26.21 | vontrapp | but i've never experienced it |
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| 14:33.43 | jsmith | Firefox often caches the IPs of host lookups |
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| 15:06.30 | elg | paperclips |
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| 15:07.32 | herlo-lap | I'm thinking about cms software, considering drupal, joomla, mambo, etc. Any that I should seriously consider looking at? |
| 15:08.08 | elg | pen and paper |
| 15:08.31 | herlo-lap | cms == content management system (implies electronic media) |
| 15:09.00 | elg | i can manage paper |
| 15:09.12 | elg | "hey you, yeah, you flat guy! go over there!" |
| 15:11.36 | ^Migs^ | using all IP addresses should be okay with Synergy, right? |
| 15:11.43 | ^Migs^ | or does there need to be hostnames? |
| 15:14.17 | ECRS401 | mornin ^Migs^ |
| 15:15.21 | ^Migs^ | howdy ECRS401 |
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| 15:21.58 | elg | i think ip would be fine |
| 15:22.15 | elg | well i won't be able to record the temple square organs |
| 15:22.56 | elg | they routinely get requests of the sort and routintely turn them down. but what's more, "there are a number of reasons why we must routinely turn them down, including longstanding Church policies on the use of the organs for recordings." |
| 15:24.03 | elg | what ridiculous policies the church has for unilaterally not allowing normal people to record the organs I don't even want to know, it would make me fume I'm sure. |
| 15:24.24 | elg | sometimes I wish the beaurocracy was a little less heavy-handed. actually, make that always I wish that. |
| 15:24.44 | findlay | yeah, the legal deparment is kind of, um, zealous :) |
| 15:26.51 | elg | well there's that, and then there's the "spiritual legal dept." |
| 15:27.01 | elg | heretofore referred to as the pharisees |
| 15:27.18 | findlay | hehe |
| 15:27.20 | elg | finds a big tree and sits not under it |
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| 15:29.19 | findlay | elg: I could try to snag one of the organists after rehearsal for you |
| 15:29.32 | elg | well this is from Richard Elliott |
| 15:29.44 | findlay | hm |
| 15:30.05 | elg | who I have met and he's nice enough. if it would have been possible (without having a serious "in"), he would have said yes |
| 15:31.19 | levi | Ahh, church policy. |
| 15:41.55 | ^Migs^ | Free Frutista Freezes at Taco Bell today WOOT |
| 15:53.59 | Sargun | ^Migs^, For Us too? |
| 15:54.31 | ^Migs^ | yup |
| 15:54.36 | ^Migs^ | http://slickdeals.net/?pno=12866&lno=2&afsrc=1 |
| 15:54.38 | ^Migs^ | sorry, forgot to link it |
| 15:54.39 | brac | [Taco Bell’s Frutista Freeze] |
| 15:54.56 | ^Migs^ | it makes you install some sort of "coupon printer" though, and it's only for Windows hahahaha |
| 15:57.35 | *** join/#utah sjansen (n=sjansen@hq-nat2.gurulabs.com) |
| 15:57.38 | sjansen | http://youtube.com/watch?v=ioD7gp41GYU |
| 16:03.27 | eggyknap | elg: the question I asked yesterday before your IRC client crashed was something like "how is the organ registration detective going to work?" |
| 16:03.32 | eggyknap | Grr... typed too slowly. |
| 16:04.18 | Sargun | ugh |
| 16:04.26 | Sargun | So its $120? |
| 16:04.27 | sjansen | ~onjoin elg #utah eggyknap wants to know: "how is the organ registration detective going to work?" |
| 16:04.27 | ibot | ok, sjansen |
| 16:04.54 | sjansen | Sargun: Get a job. ;-) |
| 16:04.58 | Sargun | sjansen, I'm at work. |
| 16:05.11 | sjansen | Sargun: Get a raise. :-P |
| 16:05.14 | Sargun | hehe. |
| 16:05.39 | Sargun | Oddly enough $120 seems a bit steep for a "Frutista Freeze" |
| 16:05.41 | tensai | ~onjoin elg elg: eggyknap wants to know: "how is the organ registration detective going to work?" |
| 16:05.41 | ibot | ok, tensai |
| 16:06.15 | Sargun | When I can get a large amount of icecream for coldstone for like $1500 |
| 16:06.18 | Sargun | err, $15.00 |
| 16:06.24 | tensai | Sargun: it's made of gilded strawberries |
| 16:06.34 | Sargun | I could definitely get a VERY large amount for $1500 |
| 16:07.04 | Sargun | this is interesting. |
| 16:07.16 | Sargun | Their site is possibly worse than myspace.com |
| 16:08.35 | *** join/#utah tiwula (n=lane@75.148.99.197) |
| 16:09.27 | sjansen | Social Ice Cream? Genius! |
| 16:10.18 | maquis | winces |
| 16:10.18 | Sargun | ~lart sjansen |
| 16:10.18 | ibot | hooks into a hydrant and hoses sjansen down |
| 16:10.25 | maquis | i tink i might be coming down with something |
| 16:10.53 | eggyknap | tensai / sjansen : thx |
| 16:10.54 | sjansen | ~cure maquis |
| 16:10.55 | ibot | ACTION pulls out a needle and syringe, then under the very loud protesting of maquis, does not use the syringe and just calls 911 instead. |
| 16:10.59 | Sargun | Retire from work for the day |
| 16:11.43 | sjansen | Cough on your boss. If she gets sick and doesn't come to work, no one has to work! |
| 16:16.51 | maquis | sjansen: we work regardless of whether our managers are around |
| 16:18.28 | findlay | maquis: sounds like a regular sweat shop |
| 16:18.34 | *** part/#utah herlo-lap (n=herlo@hq-nat2.gurulabs.com) |
| 16:19.16 | ^Migs^ | I don't have to reset/restart anything after adding an iptables entry, do I? |
| 16:20.42 | sjansen | Depends on how you added the rule. |
| 16:21.33 | Sargun | And what DISTRO |
| 16:21.38 | findlay | ^Migs^: you do if you wrote the rule on the chalk board |
| 16:21.50 | Sargun | ~lart findlay |
| 16:21.50 | ibot | stabs findlay |
| 16:22.07 | Sargun | writes iptables rules all over findlay with a rusty butter knife. |
| 16:22.16 | findlay | revoke's Sargun stabbing tools |
| 16:22.48 | Sargun | writes Java code all over findlay with an arc welder |
| 16:24.03 | findlay | ^Migs^: if you bunged it live into the command shell, then it's already going |
| 16:24.19 | ^Migs^ | okay then wtf |
| 16:24.29 | ^Migs^ | I can't get synergy to connect from my Windows box to my Ubuntu server |
| 16:24.32 | ^Migs^ | nm, I'm just venting |
| 16:34.37 | levi | http://www.zedshaw.com/repository/rubyenrails2008/build/rubyenrails_2008.pdf |
| 16:39.55 | unum | can anyone tell me what's wrong with this code: |
| 16:40.05 | unum | $poll = new IO::Poll; $poll->mask(LOGFILE => POLLIN); $poll->poll() |
| 16:44.02 | levi | It's written in perl, for one. |
| 16:46.33 | synic | does a double take |
| 16:46.46 | levi | In what way does it fail to work? |
| 16:46.50 | findlay | does a triple take |
| 16:46.56 | synic | someone else is harassing perl in #utah? |
| 16:47.08 | levi | I'm a long-time perl-harasser. |
| 16:47.15 | findlay | ~harass synic |
| 16:47.59 | levi | I also like emacs. |
| 16:48.09 | levi | So, yeah, I'm a bit of an anomaly here. |
| 16:48.18 | jsmith | levi: And here I thought you were an OK guy ;-) |
| 16:48.37 | sjansen | levi: Interesting. |
| 16:48.44 | levi | I've actually written useful programs in perl. |
| 16:48.49 | findlay | I don't see what the big deal about perl is either loving it or hating it |
| 16:49.38 | levi | I just like to gently poke fun at perl guys. |
| 16:50.04 | sjansen | Perl is messy. There is more than one way to do it. That's either brilliant or a precursor to Armageddon. There is not middle ground. |
| 16:50.27 | unum_linode | #perl helped me |
| 16:50.28 | levi | I'd also like to note that I use and like vim as well. |
| 16:50.35 | levi | unum_linode: What was the problem? |
| 16:51.04 | unum_linode | levi: I needed to put \* in fronte of my file handle and POLLIN |
| 16:51.05 | findlay | I just dislike programming in general. It's too practical |
| 16:51.19 | sjansen | levi: How'd you stumble across EaRing? |
| 16:51.37 | levi | sjansen: programming.reddit |
| 16:52.13 | sjansen | I stopped reading that a couple months ago because it seemed to be going downhill. Worth going back? |
| 16:52.17 | unum_linode | well seeing as how larry wall refers to his essay os the state of perl as apopyclipses I'd say Armageddon |
| 16:52.58 | levi | sjansen: Well, it's still way better than slashdot. I just scan the article titles a couple of times a day to see if anything interested showed up. |
| 16:52.59 | sjansen | Larry Wall is one of the four horsemen? Whoa... |
| 16:53.32 | unum_linode | so I found out yesterday that the reddit guys is a cofounder with lessig when it comes to change-congress |
| 16:53.48 | unum_linode | s/guys/guy |
| 16:54.46 | *** join/#utah brasto (n=brasto@148.87.13.8) |
| 16:56.07 | levi | I want to figure out how to bake bread like this :P http://www.geekologie.com/2008/05/wtf_thats_gross_bread_head_bak.php |
| 16:56.15 | brac | [WTF, That's Gross: Bread Head Bakery - Geekologie] |
| 17:08.28 | *** join/#utah bbeattie (n=bbeattie@208.53.57.89) |
| 17:22.27 | RyanE | http://www.geekologie.com/2008/05/wtf_thats_gross_bread_head_bak.php |
| 17:22.28 | brac | [WTF, That's Gross: Bread Head Bakery - Geekologie] |
| 17:22.38 | RyanE | oops! |
| 17:32.45 | levi | Heh. :) |
| 17:33.03 | ^Migs^ | http://www.geekologie.com/2008/06/these_animal_hairdos_are_turni.php |
| 17:33.04 | brac | [These Animal Hairdos Are Turning Me On - Geekologie] |
| 17:33.05 | levi | Man, what's with all this 'Bush is worse than Hitler' nonsense? Geez. |
| 17:33.09 | ^Migs^ | that's perty cool |
| 17:33.14 | ^Migs^ | hahaha, who's saying that? |
| 17:33.27 | RyanE | pluglist posts |
| 17:33.29 | levi | People on the PLUG mailing list. |
| 17:33.57 | ^Migs^ | bwahaha |
| 17:34.54 | findlay | levi: so, you're too different for #utah _and_ plug? |
| 17:35.27 | fozzmoo | levi: Just shows how poor people's knowledge of history is. |
| 17:36.14 | Jayce^ | fozzmoo, they've just been watching too much MSM, that's all that's been preached for the last 9 years, so they believe it |
| 17:36.15 | levi | fozzmoo: I think it goes to show how poor people's sense of scale and perspective is. |
| 17:36.56 | levi | Jayce^: Uh, I haven't seen anything in the mainstream media that suggests that Bush is worse than Hitler. What kind of news have *you* been watching? |
| 17:37.18 | JoshH | levi, you beat me to it |
| 17:37.26 | vontrapp | yeah Jayce^? all i see on the news is how great bush is, except maybe the last few months |
| 17:40.04 | findlay | I heard that Bush steals babies |
| 17:40.07 | levi | The mainstream media really isn't terribly biased. People who think it's extremely biased are extremists themselves. |
| 17:40.11 | findlay | nods |
| 17:40.50 | levi | I won't argue that it's *somewhat* biased, but the bias varies depending on the media source. |
| 17:41.04 | levi | Er, that it's not *somewhat* biased. |
| 17:41.59 | levi | Anyway, the nutcases on PLUG get their 'Bush is EVIL' views from non-mainstream media, for sure. |
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| 17:42.10 | *** mode/#utah [+v elg] by ChanServ |
| 17:42.35 | elg | eggyknap: magic, of course |
| 17:42.48 | findlay | ooohh |
| 17:43.01 | levi | mathemagic! |
| 17:43.12 | findlay | rolls his eyes |
| 17:43.22 | elg | rolls findlay's eyes into the gutter |
| 17:43.28 | elg | get your eyes out of the gutter, findlay |
| 17:43.35 | findlay | sends levi off to de-Disney-tox |
| 17:45.46 | Jayce^ | vontrapp, you gotta be kidding, ever since he was starting his first campaing the msm has been declaring him an idiot/warmonger/etc.. |
| 17:45.52 | elg | eggyknap: so what level of detail do you want? |
| 17:51.21 | RazberrieTart | g'mornin' |
| 17:51.35 | elg | -chat if only |
| 17:51.36 | brac | if only conary weren't so easy as that type of person. |
| 17:51.47 | RazberrieTart | :D |
| 17:52.00 | elg | -chat if you |
| 17:52.00 | brac | if you have to pay for parts other than C E s |
| 17:52.13 | findlay | -chat Bush |
| 17:52.13 | brac | Bush had |
| 17:52.21 | Tene | -chat Bush is |
| 17:52.21 | findlay | -chat elg |
| 17:52.25 | brac | Bush is a special or older to use. You could agree that Obama is not a mere 60 km apart :) |
| 17:52.25 | brac | elg did rescue the world is actually pretty cool. |
| 17:52.42 | findlay | -chat RazberrieTart |
| 17:52.43 | brac | RazberrieTart is in a new sign up for a long way |
| 17:52.43 | levi | Heya, RazberrieTart. |
| 17:52.49 | RazberrieTart | Yay ! |
| 17:52.53 | RazberrieTart | Hi levi :) |
| 17:53.08 | findlay | -chat I am |
| 17:53.09 | brac | I am there.... |
| 17:53.35 | goozbach | ok, so I need everybody to send me their funny goozbach stories |
| 17:53.43 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:53.44 | RazberrieTart | Um |
| 17:53.47 | RazberrieTart | I don't have any. |
| 17:53.47 | RazberrieTart | :D |
| 17:53.53 | elg | once this guy named goozbach killed a baby seal |
| 17:54.01 | maquis | goozbach: ice cream in the snow? |
| 17:54.08 | goozbach | elg: funny, not incriminating |
| 17:54.08 | elg | then he force fed it to a kitten |
| 17:54.13 | levi | RazberrieTart: Just make one up! |
| 17:54.54 | RazberrieTart | um... |
| 17:54.56 | RyanE | There was that hilarious time when goozbach confused the judicial branch with the legislative... woo, I still laugh at that one. |
| 17:55.03 | RazberrieTart | I just got up ... give me a few minutes to be creative. |
| 17:55.38 | elg | -chat funny goozbach |
| 17:55.38 | brac | funny goozbach stories |
| 17:55.46 | elg | -chat goozbach went |
| 17:55.52 | brac | goozbach went searching for a lunch on the dangerous commands didn't make any choices as to the flash is just created by a web page. I need some leads |
| 17:55.53 | findlay | -chat goozbach did |
| 17:55.54 | brac | goozbach did on my 4g.. doesn't work |
| 17:56.20 | elg | -chat make one |
| 17:56.21 | brac | make one with britney murphy? |
| 17:57.10 | RazberrieTart | ok :D |
| 17:57.56 | Tene | -chat the goozbach |
| 17:57.56 | brac | the goozbach naming orginzation |
| 17:58.00 | Tene | -chat the goozbach |
| 17:58.00 | brac | the goozbach naming orginzation |
| 17:58.07 | Tene | -chat my goozbach |
| 17:58.07 | brac | my goozbach |
| 17:58.15 | Tene | -chat after goozbach |
| 17:58.15 | brac | after goozbach |
| 18:00.53 | goozbach | ham and bacon make salads fun! |
| 18:01.00 | eggyknap | elg: Sorry for the delayed response -- fire alarm went off, apparently by mistake. As to level of detail, if you've got papers/reading you'd suggest, about that level of detail sounds interesting. |
| 18:02.22 | elg | eggyknap: i'm in the process of writing a prospectus which should satisfy you. hope to have a draft by tomorrow. you just volunteered to proofread it. ;-) |
| 18:02.55 | eggyknap | elg: I would have explicitly volunteered had I not done so implicitly :) Hopefully I'll find more time to read it than the last paper I volunteered to proofread... |
| 18:03.11 | elg | it'll also be considerably shorter than the last one you read :) |
| 18:03.15 | elg | er, volunteered to read |
| 18:03.30 | eggyknap | looks for the last one, realizing now that it might contain the details he's curious about. |
| 18:03.46 | eggyknap | ...found it. |
| 18:03.46 | elg | some of them, yes |
| 18:03.55 | elg | but not laid out as such |
| 18:06.19 | goozbach | http://www.ratemyeverything.net/post/5451/Proper_Way_to_Check_a_Baby_Diaper.aspx |
| 18:07.42 | RazberrieTart | hehe |
| 18:07.50 | RazberrieTart | baby diapers don't stretch 'that' much :D |
| 18:25.18 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | UTOSC 2008 Call for Papers @http://2008.utosc.com | if ($bush == $hitler) { $you = "insane"; } |
| 18:28.54 | ^Migs^ | http://www.jamstudio.com |
| 18:31.37 | findlay | sjansen: you left a superflous semicolon in there |
| 18:32.24 | *** join/#utah brast1 (n=brasto@148.87.13.8) |
| 18:32.48 | levi | Man, Peter Abilla is definitely really into his geeky business stuff: http://www.shmula.com/488/snoop-dogg-the-business-geek |
| 18:35.55 | findlay | well, here it goes |
| 18:38.19 | brasto | in $DISPLAY, the first number represents which session. What's the second number for? |
| 18:41.44 | RyanE | IPADDRESS:DisplayDevice.Screen |
| 18:42.02 | RyanE | actually, hostname:device.screen |
| 18:42.24 | RyanE | but most X servers only have one display device, and only one screen. |
| 18:43.53 | brasto | RyanE: if i log in with 2 sessions, i get a 0 as the first number in the first session, and a 1 as the first number in the second session, so the first is for session, is it not? |
| 18:45.00 | RyanE | I think when it means 'device', it means 'X Server'. Historically, an X server was not an app that you ran multiple instances of on a box, it *was* a box. |
| 18:45.04 | RyanE | so yeah. |
| 18:45.56 | RyanE | also, if you run xvnc, or any other app that emulates an xserver, you get a new 'device'. |
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| 18:59.57 | brasto | makes sense. tx RyanE. |
| 19:17.47 | *** join/#utah herlo-lap (n=herlo@hq-nat2.gurulabs.com) |
| 19:18.01 | herlo-lap | Anyone ever used http://lenya.apache.org/ ? |
| 19:26.46 | *** join/#utah gshipley (n=gshipley@nat/redhat/x-e4061579b9363482) |
| 19:26.57 | brasto | not i, said brasto |
| 19:27.29 | herlo-lap | http://lenya.apache.org/ is java, nm |
| 19:28.47 | nick125 | Plone! Plone! |
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| 19:32.23 | elg | ~onjoin -elg |
| 19:32.23 | ibot | elg: ok |
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| 19:38.47 | sjansen | findlay: I don't consider it superfluous. I consider it future proof. |
| 19:39.10 | unum_linode | I need to remember to vacuum my databases after major changes |
| 19:40.01 | findlay | haha |
| 19:41.28 | goozbach | A cuban at GuruLabs? |
| 19:41.50 | talkingDOWNTOWN | They've really opened their doors in the last few years. |
| 19:42.05 | sjansen | brasto: Not session, server. |
| 19:42.07 | goozbach | talkingDOWNTOWN: yeah, esp since I left |
| 19:42.26 | goozbach | aparently they still tell stories about me |
| 19:42.32 | talkingDOWNTOWN | Did you have a problem with Cubans, historically? Me and my little raft? |
| 19:42.45 | goozbach | talkingDOWNTOWN: I have no problems with cubans |
| 19:43.16 | goozbach | I was just commenting on the fact that Guru Labs is quite a drive for a cuban to make |
| 19:43.16 | talkingDOWNTOWN | That's probably good. I have a posse. |
| 19:43.23 | talkingDOWNTOWN | That's true... especially for my raft. |
| 19:44.02 | goozbach | wonders who talkingDOWNTOWN *REALLY* is |
| 19:44.50 | talkingDOWNTOWN | Maybe I'm a student. Regardless, please don't let me stop your previously quite politically charged conversation. |
| 19:46.26 | goozbach | talkingDOWNTOWN: I must compliment you on your choice of linux instruction (if you are a student) |
| 19:48.23 | talkingDOWNTOWN | I appreciate that. I consider myself a discerning fellow. |
| 19:48.41 | talkingDOWNTOWN | smokes his Cuban cigar. |
| 19:50.42 | nick125 | spends $94 renewing his domains |
| 19:51.27 | ^Migs^ | I think I have too many Twitter pals |
| 19:51.31 | nick125 | "Don't stop now. Keep shopping and get 10% OFF!" |
| 19:51.39 | nick125 | throws a brick at godaddy |
| 19:51.46 | ^Migs^ | my IM keeps blinking with messages, and I have to keep readin them, and I'm not getting any work done |
| 19:51.47 | unum_linode | throws another |
| 19:51.48 | findlay | ~haha godaddy |
| 19:51.49 | ibot | ACTION beats godaddy about the head with the ha ha bat |
| 19:52.38 | ^Migs^ | I was talking to some account manager from GoDaddy awhile ago, and she was relentlessly insisting to me that a blog is the same thing as a database |
| 19:52.55 | findlay | interesting |
| 19:53.03 | ^Migs^ | All I could think was, "No wonder I don't use GoDaddy anymore" |
| 19:53.11 | findlay | haha |
| 19:53.33 | nick125 | haha |
| 19:53.56 | nick125 | I just use them for domains..I don't trust them enough for hosting. |
| 19:54.03 | ^Migs^ | yeah, I use them for domains, too |
| 19:54.17 | talkingDOWNTOWN | I've been using them for hosting for about a year now, Domains for a few years. |
| 19:54.23 | ^Migs^ | I trust them fine for hosting. It's just that their hosting sucks. |
| 19:54.36 | talkingDOWNTOWN | The hosting support is absolutely horrible, but if you can avoid the necessity of their hosting, it's not a bad value. Fairly reliable, even under load. |
| 19:54.47 | ^Migs^ | their admin panel alone is infuriating. I don't like having to open 10 different browser windows just to get to my MySQL databases, sorry. |
| 19:54.47 | talkingDOWNTOWN | *- necessity of their support, not hosting. |
| 19:54.58 | nick125 | Least now I don't have to worry about my domains for the next few years. |
| 19:55.05 | unum_linode | is now a linode fan |
| 19:55.12 | ^Migs^ | I like Dreamhost, though |
| 19:55.17 | ^Migs^ | I've been happy with it |
| 19:55.22 | nick125 | is now a run-your-own-server-sitting-next-to-you fan |
| 19:55.26 | talkingDOWNTOWN | It's harding getting ColdFusion support for less than 10$ a month - That's why I've been using GoDaddy. (Despite the fact that the CF support generally sucks) |
| 19:55.32 | ^Migs^ | even with that recent debacle where Dreamhost overcharged its customers $7 million |
| 19:55.45 | ^Migs^ | they handled it well with swift refunds |
| 19:56.02 | unum_linode | nick125: what connection do you have to your server |
| 19:56.05 | findlay | coldfusion?! do people even use that anymore? |
| 19:56.12 | unum_linode | utopia won't run a line into my condo :( |
| 19:56.26 | unum_linode | I keep trying to trick them into thinking it's a townhome ;) |
| 19:56.26 | talkingDOWNTOWN | findlay: It's coming back up again - especially since BlueDragon (New Atlanta) went open source. |
| 19:56.29 | nick125 | unum_linode: I'm running it on my 7/896 ADSL line |
| 19:56.39 | talkingDOWNTOWN | findlay: Coldfusion has it's place in the market, juts like anything else. |
| 19:56.40 | goozbach | talkingDOWNTOWN: learn vim and drop coldfusion |
| 19:56.43 | ^Migs^ | when is Utopia coming to Roy? |
| 19:57.04 | unum_linode | talkingDOWNTOWN: ya on the shelf rotting |
| 19:57.06 | findlay | talkingDOWNTOWN: like Java I suppose, but that doesn't mean I have to like/use it :) |
| 19:57.30 | talkingDOWNTOWN | ColdFusion Bashers: I love the tools holy war. Quite possibly one of the most unproductive debates ever. |
| 19:57.35 | talkingDOWNTOWN | :) |
| 19:57.36 | nick125 | is getting really pissed off at Godaddy's domain control panel |
| 19:58.14 | nick125 | now I have to remember who I use for DNS..ugh. |
| 19:58.47 | nick125 | This is what happens when you "set it and forget it". |
| 19:59.20 | talkingDOWNTOWN | unum_linode: Have you ever tried to Bluedragon products? |
| 20:00.11 | nick125 | I should host my own DNS, but I'm too lazy. |
| 20:04.39 | nick125 | What the heck! |
| 20:07.47 | nick125 | There, finally got my nameservers set. Only took 15 minutes! |
| 20:09.24 | findlay | haha |
| 20:10.25 | nick125 | I forgot how irritating the Godaddy Domain Manager is. |
| 20:11.57 | findlay | they aren't the only ones |
| 20:13.42 | bonez45 | how does one assure that one's domain, fyrenice.com in my case, has a valid MX DNS record? I tried replying to an email from someone at web.com and it rejected with the following: (reason: 557 Your domain fyrenice.com does not have a valid MX DNS record. Disconnecting...) |
| 20:13.56 | bonez45 | I don't encounter trouble anywhere else, just with this web.com site..... |
| 20:14.18 | Tene | bonez45: host -t mx fyrenice.com |
| 20:14.28 | nick125 | dig fyrenice.com MX |
| 20:14.44 | nick125 | You don't have a MX record set. |
| 20:15.13 | bonez45 | how do I do it then? how do I set it |
| 20:15.30 | nick125 | How are you hosting your DNS? |
| 20:15.41 | nick125 | Bind? PDNS? outsourcing to someone? |
| 20:18.35 | bonez45 | nick125: my DNS? I believe it's hosted either with namecheap.com , my registrar, or with comcast....as they are my ISP... |
| 20:19.09 | nick125 | ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: |
| 20:19.09 | nick125 | fyrenice.com.3511INSOAdns1.name-services.com. info.name-services.com. 2002050701 10001 1801 604801 181 |
| 20:20.54 | nick125 | ^^ Whoever runs name-services.com is your DNS provider |
| 20:21.02 | bonez45 | ok.... |
| 20:21.13 | nick125 | looks like enom, so it's probably namecheap.com |
| 20:21.14 | herlo-lap | bonez45: then you need to go there and put in an MX record. usually they have a web form for it |
| 20:21.40 | bonez45 | ok... |
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| 20:23.46 | nick125 | Yeah, go into your DNS provider's control panel and it should have an option to add a new record. |
| 20:25.17 | *** topic/#utah by talkingDOWNTOWN -> Politics make me sooooo horny! |
| 20:25.25 | bonez45 | what record do I add? I sound lame with this...cause I am.. but grateful for your helping me |
| 20:25.45 | herlo-lap |  http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | UTOSC 2008 Call for Papers @http://2008.utosc.com | Politics make me sooooo horny! |
| 20:26.04 | herlo-lap | /topic http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | UTOSC 2008 Registration now open @http://2008.utosc.com | Politics make me sooooo horny! |
| 20:26.06 | nick125 | bonez45: You'll want to add an MX record. |
| 20:26.25 | RyanE | herlo-lap: heh. |
| 20:26.28 | *** topic/#utah by herlo-lap -> http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | UTOSC 2008 Registration now open @ http://2008.utosc.com |
| 20:26.37 | herlo-lap | lol, /topic wouldn't work for me |
| 20:26.45 | nick125 | o.O |
| 20:26.58 | *** topic/#utah by herlo-lap -> http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | UTOSC 2008 Registration now open @ http://2008.utosc.com | Politics make me sooooo horny! |
| 20:27.20 | herlo-lap | points at talkingDOWNTOWN <-- redvsblue |
| 20:27.27 | nick125 | Hmm. I'm debating on if I should deLDAP my mail server so I can do virtual mail hosting. |
| 20:29.02 | ^Migs^ | will it piss people off? |
| 20:29.39 | nick125 | Probably not |
| 20:29.47 | *** part/#utah talkingDOWNTOWN (n=Cuban@dhcp189.openinternet.gurulabs.com) |
| 20:30.11 | nick125 | either that, or I break my LDAP setup to find some way to get virtual mail hosting to work. |
| 20:31.32 | nick125 | or I could setup postfix to check postgresql then check LDAP..not sure how to get dovecot to do the same. |
| 20:32.53 | nick125 | LDAP was a good idea when I started, but now it's just becoming a bigger issue than its worth. |
| 20:40.50 | ^Migs^ | if it's not going to piss anyone off, why bother doing it? |
| 20:42.10 | *** topic/#utah by Jayce^ -> http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | UTOSC 2008 Registration now open @ http://2008.utosc.com |
| 20:42.17 | ^Migs^ | you should always ask, "Will this help me reach my goal of being the BOFH?" |
| 20:43.39 | nick125 | Hmm...BOFH or retaining sanity....BOFH or retaining sanity...hmm |
| 20:44.28 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | UTOSC 2008 Registration now open @ http://2008.utosc.com | clints: TMI! |
| 20:45.34 | nick125 | ping? |
| 20:45.45 | brasto | pong |
| 20:45.48 | brasto | ~ping |
| 20:45.49 | ibot | pong |
| 20:45.51 | findlay | pung |
| 20:46.08 | nick125 | I'm really getting fed up with my ISP. |
| 20:46.22 | brasto | whew.... for a moment o thought findlay was flinging dung... but fortunately it was just pung |
| 20:46.28 | nick125 | --- 4.2.2.2 ping statistics --- |
| 20:46.29 | nick125 | 26 packets transmitted, 1 received, 96% packet loss, time 25032ms |
| 20:46.29 | nick125 | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 81.281/81.281/81.281/0.000 ms |
| 20:46.31 | tensai | what are they feeding you? |
| 20:47.00 | nick125 | And I know it's my ISP as my DSL line has been stable. |
| 20:51.33 | nick125 | thinks he'll email his ISP and see what the heck is going on |
| 20:54.04 | brasto | found a way to make hotels stop disconnecting IM sessions when not browsing actively... |
| 20:55.20 | ^Migs^ | hahaha: hahaha: http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/06/google-maps-prius-hybrid-ticket-police.php |
| 20:55.25 | ^Migs^ | a Google camera car got pulled over |
| 20:55.25 | brac | [The Google Maps Prius Hybrid Car Gets a Ticket : TreeHugger] |
| 20:56.12 | brasto | make a tab refresh a page every 1 minute or so |
| 20:56.26 | nick125 | brasto: nice. |
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| 21:41.35 | nick125 | waits for his ISP to bother to email him back |
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| 23:10.45 | sjansen | Is is possible to join a mailing list on google groups without a gmail account? |
| 23:16.42 | lakshmi | kills lenovo customer service |
| 23:17.04 | *** part/#utah brasto (n=brasto@148.87.13.8) |
| 23:21.55 | Supaplex | how do I reapply all my filters in gmail w/o reissuing them one by one? I'm using thunderbird to archive my mail to gmail, but gmail filters don't act upon mail moved that way. (otherwise, is this too OT for the plug mailing list?) |
| 23:23.09 | sjansen | Supaplex: OT for Plug? Heck, it vaguely involved technology, I'd say it's ON topic. |
| 23:23.26 | Supaplex | groovy enough for me. :) |
| 23:23.35 | sjansen | prepares an anti-gmail rant for Supaplex |
| 23:23.45 | Supaplex | hah! |
| 23:25.25 | atoponce | sjansen: yes, it is possible |
| 23:25.26 | atoponce | meh |
| 23:25.34 | findlay | there goes sjansen, dying again |
| 23:26.18 | atoponce | he needs a new quit message |
| 23:28.10 | maquis | ~lart atoponce |
| 23:28.10 | ibot | declares atoponce a moron |
| 23:28.35 | atoponce | :( |
| 23:28.47 | Supaplex | -excuse |
| 23:28.47 | brac | non-redundant fan failure |
| 23:29.06 | atoponce | finds his happy place |
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| 23:31.51 | Sargun | Anyone here played with vector rendering? What's a good tool to do it for servers? Preferably something that can take advantage of the GPU. |
| 23:32.50 | Supaplex | nvidia has some kind of api toolkit for this stuff. I haven't looked at in detail yet |
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| 23:49.31 | atoponce | postfix or exim? |
| 23:51.48 | Sargun | Postfix. |
| 23:56.40 | atoponce | why? |
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