| 00:31.05 | herlo | Ubuntu Utah meeting streaming at http://stream.utos.org |
| 00:36.21 | levi | elg: It was several weeks ago, actually. |
| 00:36.52 | levi | elg: I can't believe Von said Bush was worse than Hitler. |
| 01:33.25 | tyler___ | bush is worse |
| 01:33.51 | tyler___ | imho (which by the way is doctrine and fact) |
| 02:05.10 | Sargun | levi, You might know the answer to this question: what makes SPDIF better than ethernet |
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| 02:19.24 | mrpull-lt | Sargun: isn't that like saying why is HDMI better than USB? |
| 02:19.30 | mrpull-lt | why are you comparing the two? |
| 02:19.47 | mrpull-lt | i've never known SPDIF to be used for anything but audio |
| 02:21.06 | Sargun | No, like, why didn't they just use Ethernet |
| 02:21.07 | mrpull-lt | tyler___: your opinion is doctrine and fact? that is nonsense |
| 02:22.22 | mrpull-lt | Sargun: it seems to me that ethernet has a lot of complexity that isn't necessary for the task of sending digital audio from A to B |
| 02:25.08 | mrpull-lt | ethernet has mechanisms for many to many communication... spdif is only point to point that i know of |
| 02:25.19 | mrpull-lt | (BTW, holy cow Tiger Woods is amazing!) |
| 02:26.24 | mrpull-lt | one thing i've found interesting... SPDIF does not have enough bandwidth for the newer BluRay high def codecs |
| 02:27.00 | mrpull-lt | it cant do 8 channels uncompressed |
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| 02:37.36 | elg | he hangs around our uncle too much |
| 02:38.07 | elg | so best buy was out and radio shack would have been closed when I got there, so the converter box will wait for another day |
| 02:44.10 | Sargun | mrpull-lt, GigaBit Ethernet does. |
| 02:44.28 | Sargun | its a pain to implement though |
| 02:58.08 | levi | Mmm, root beer float. |
| 02:58.29 | levi | Sargun: Not for much longer! |
| 02:58.41 | Sargun | 10GigE |
| 02:58.55 | levi | (Not a pain to implement 8 channels of audio over Gigabit Ethernet for much longer, I mean) |
| 02:59.46 | Sargun | oh... |
| 03:00.00 | Sargun | You think even for consumer quality equipment? |
| 03:00.07 | levi | Yes. |
| 03:00.54 | Sargun | Awesome |
| 03:00.55 | levi | There are plans in the works for a cable/antenna box to hook to your TV via ethernet in the relatively near future. |
| 03:01.26 | Sargun | you think by some proprietary form of thernet |
| 03:01.28 | levi | Major ethernet silicon vendors are working on the stuff, as well as major electronics appliance vendors. |
| 03:01.37 | Sargun | or will it be able to ride on my existing network? |
| 03:01.41 | levi | No, I think a standard form of ethernet. |
| 03:01.58 | levi | Well, it'll require equipment that's up to the new standards. |
| 03:05.01 | Sargun | IP? |
| 03:05.10 | Sargun | Standards like, what level of standards? |
| 03:06.21 | levi | Like, 802.1 standards. |
| 03:39.39 | levi | Heh, so apparently Steve Yegge doesn't think Scala is cool anymore |
| 03:46.08 | mrpull-lt | i did read that DirecTV was going to release a new ethernet based PVR for multi unit dwellings in the near future |
| 03:47.35 | levi | I'm not sure if it's necessarily related to the stuff I'm talking about, but it might be. |
| 03:47.52 | mrpull-lt | i suspect it would be proprietary |
| 03:48.22 | mrpull-lt | it was interesting they'd use ethernet instead of their new single wire multiswitch gear |
| 03:49.08 | levi | Well, the problem with proprietary network stuff is that it's expensive, and you either have to do your own switches (at which point is it really ethernet anymore?) or live with the limitations that standard ethernet switches give you. |
| 03:52.39 | mrpull-lt | http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=865537 |
| 03:53.23 | mrpull-lt | the interesting part is that it says it can do IP over existing wiring to standard IP enabled directv receivers |
| 03:53.36 | mrpull-lt | i dont know how that'd exactly work :-/ |
| 03:57.53 | mrpull-lt | looks like it does use GigE for the video... interesting. |
| 03:59.13 | levi | Well, it'd have to. |
| 04:04.01 | levi | Crazy story: http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/health/16782826.html |
| 04:17.39 | levi | Bah, Java servlets. |
| 04:20.25 | levi | So much apathy regarding school right now. Web-based classes do this to me even more than classroom ones. |
| 04:21.10 | levi | Or maybe it's just the fact that these classes are pretty much gigantic wastes of time, and it's hard to push that fact aside. |
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| 05:31.09 | lakshmi | hey Sargun |
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| 06:39.52 | Sargun | I have less hard drive space than double my RAM |
| 06:55.36 | lakshmi | math man Sargun |
| 07:51.41 | Supaplex | -excuse |
| 07:51.41 | brac | it's an ID-10-T error |
| 07:51.44 | Supaplex | -excuse |
| 07:51.45 | brac | excessive collisions & not enough packet ambulances |
| 07:59.48 | Sargun | -rm |
| 08:00.54 | Sargun | -die |
| 08:07.19 | lakshmi | -die Sargun |
| 08:07.21 | lakshmi | :P |
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| 14:17.25 | elg | happy father's day, ibot |
| 15:03.18 | elg | ~spawn |
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| 16:24.26 | elg | ~spank brac |
| 16:24.27 | ibot | ACTION bends brac over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on brac's pasty white buttocks. |
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| 18:51.39 | vontrapp | ok windows is really retarded |
| 18:52.00 | vontrapp | how the heck do i tell windows i want to authenticate with a certain username for a samba share? |
| 18:52.13 | Sargun | uhm. |
| 18:52.19 | vontrapp | it helpfully puts in "Guest" for me and doesn't let me change it |
| 18:52.20 | Sargun | map it as a network drive? |
| 18:52.34 | Sargun | right click? |
| 18:52.42 | vontrapp | i can't even get that far |
| 18:53.20 | vontrapp | the 'add network place wizard' doesn't work either |
| 20:07.28 | Tene | So, what's this: http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=93581 ? |
| 20:19.30 | Sargun | Who here likes bush? |
| 20:22.14 | sontek | gets ready to attack anyone who raises their hand |
| 20:22.46 | Sargun | sontek, you're talking about a conservative channel |
| 20:30.41 | sontek | Sargun: i might need some backup |
| 20:33.31 | Sargun | hi |
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| 20:43.32 | bbeattie | .. this is driving me nuts. I'm attempting to use the "rename" program that uses perl regular expression (ie: rename -v 's/FROM/TO/' *) but how on earth do you escape a ' when you're trying to rename based on that?! :) Nothing works if FROM is ' \' \\\' or any other combination. :) |
| 20:44.04 | Sargun | mv |
| 20:44.30 | Sargun | bbeattie, take some acid; somehow perl regex will suddenly become simple. |
| 20:45.20 | Sargun | nanan |
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| 21:11.11 | Tene | levi: ping |
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| 21:15.56 | Tene | levi: unping |
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| 21:59.37 | whiteley | I need to teach my 7 yr old how to write code. I remember a while back finding some flash-based logo-ish thing. It might have been mentioned on /. |
| 22:00.07 | whiteley | but now I can't find it. Anyone aware of that? |
| 22:02.38 | nick125 | getting 'em started early, eh? |
| 22:02.44 | whiteley | indeed. |
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