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| 00:37.25 | findlay | man |
| 00:38.06 | findlay | now some guy is yakking about some college survival class |
| 00:47.36 | Sargun_screen | Kill him. |
| 00:58.09 | findlay | ~screen Sargun_screen |
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| 01:53.37 | goozbach | Jayce^: we're even now... |
| 01:53.58 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:21.50 | griffeymac | Hi folks. |
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| 04:05.58 | Sargun | hmm.. My teacher wants me to write non-standard ANSI99 code. |
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| 05:01.56 | levi | Sargun: Nonstandard in what way? |
| 05:13.01 | keldwud | looks liike I won't be making it to the Bay Area :( |
| 05:13.07 | keldwud | stupid knee. |
| 05:29.08 | Supaplex | ~steal keldwud's knee |
| 05:29.09 | ibot | ACTION grabs keldwud's knee and gives it to supaplex |
| 05:31.31 | keldwud | thanks supa :) |
| 05:48.21 | Supaplex | hehheh. sure. np. (: |
| 06:00.35 | findlay | my knee hurts too |
| 06:00.40 | lakshmi | mine 2 |
| 06:00.45 | findlay | oh sure |
| 06:01.54 | findlay | if anybody wants to watch the broadcast on Sunday, I can pick my nose for you or something |
| 06:03.28 | findlay | my new strings are lots quieter than my old ones, which is good for my hearing, but kind of sad because I feel like I can't play as loud as I want |
| 06:05.37 | levi | findlay: You just need an electric viola and a good amplifier. :) |
| 06:06.14 | findlay | eh, electronically amped bowed strings just don't work for most of the kind of music I play |
| 06:06.54 | findlay | I don't think people in the orchestra would react well if I walked in with a skeleton electric viola and personal amplifier :) |
| 06:08.43 | findlay | the elecromechanical transduction inherently modifies the fundamental characteristics of the sound |
| 06:10.12 | findlay | electromechanical diaphragms of microphones seem to be more of a controlled situation since you're dealing with a simple wavefront travelling through plain old air |
| 06:25.45 | levi | Electric guitars work on induction rather than electromagnetic transduction. Do electric violas use microphones instead of inductive pickups? |
| 06:26.16 | levi | And yes, of course they change the nature of the sound as well. |
| 06:26.43 | levi | But I'm sure an electric viola would sound awesome. |
| 06:26.51 | lakshmi | wii Sargun_screen |
| 06:26.58 | levi | I've only heard an electric violin before, though. |
| 06:28.06 | levi | Something like this: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Yamaha-EV204-Silent-Electric-Violin?sku=464052&src=3WFRWXX&ZYXSEM=0&CAWELAID=26038618 |
| 06:28.11 | brac | [Buy Yamaha EV-204 Silent Electric Violin online at Musician's Friend] |
| 06:34.11 | levi | Apparently it's fairly rare to have inductive pickups on a violin. |
| 06:36.12 | levi | Here you go: http://www.electricviolinshop.com/electricviolas.cfm |
| 07:53.32 | keldwud | hey I am about to install yellow dog onto PS3 |
| 07:53.37 | keldwud | any advice before I go? |
| 07:54.18 | keldwud | apparantly it is fedora core |
| 07:54.26 | keldwud | and uses RPM (ew @ rpm) |
| 07:58.21 | keldwud | nobody here has done it yet then? |
| 08:58.18 | keldwud | k i need help with rpm |
| 09:08.59 | keldwud | got rpm figured out. anybody know which file I need to modify in order to change which desktop I want to load to? |
| 09:09.16 | keldwud | like, yelllowdog loads gnome by default |
| 09:09.33 | keldwud | we want to load kde or enlightenment instead |
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| 14:22.02 | ^Migs^ | http://www.theonion.com/content/news/san_diego_zoo_prison_merge |
| 14:26.59 | ^Migs^ | hahaha http://www.theonion.com/content/video/age_progression_technology |
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| 15:05.34 | levi | Good morning. |
| 15:05.48 | eltiare | Morning! |
| 15:05.52 | undertakingyou | morning |
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| 15:41.48 | harleypig | Anyone ever had a Screaming Monkey, that will admit to it? |
| 15:44.51 | unum | I don't even know what you mean by that |
| 15:45.44 | harleypig | A screaming monkey is a delicacy in certain parts of the world. |
| 15:46.14 | levi | In other words, not something you would want to eat. |
| 15:46.28 | harleypig | definitely not. |
| 15:46.58 | harleypig | A monkey is restrained and refrigerated until its core tempature is dangerously low, then the top of its skull is cut off. |
| 15:47.12 | harleypig | It's then placed in the center of the eating area and every one digs in. |
| 15:47.30 | levi | And it screams while you eat its brains? |
| 15:47.31 | bonez46 | crazy...that's all I can say |
| 15:47.32 | harleypig | yep |
| 15:47.41 | harleypig | well, it only screams for a little bit. |
| 15:47.48 | levi | Nice. Some people are twisted. |
| 15:47.52 | bonez46 | heinous |
| 15:48.11 | harleypig | yeah |
| 15:48.18 | elg | suppose I want to load the module snd_cs46xx before the module snd_via82xx |
| 15:48.26 | elg | is /etc/modules soon enough to ensure that? |
| 15:49.06 | levi | Things were so much simpler when they didn't autoload. :P |
| 15:49.14 | levi | I have no idea anymore. |
| 15:50.30 | elg | oh well, I'll do it and see |
| 15:50.40 | elg | in a week or so when i get around to rebooting it |
| 15:53.31 | elg | so upstart provides telinit, but apparently telinit q doesn't do anything |
| 15:53.46 | elg | (and of course no /etc/inittab - look in /etc/event.d instead) |
| 15:57.24 | levi | So I moved all my sprinkler heads inside the fence line yesterday and got my trench about 3/4 backfilled. Unfortunately, I kinked the flex pipe beneath one of the heads, so I'll have to re-do that one. :/ |
| 15:59.44 | elg | the soil is still moist from yesterday's watering, which is a bit surprising |
| 15:59.54 | elg | say, a bit uncommon |
| 15:59.59 | elg | but not too surprising considering the weather |
| 16:00.09 | elg | cool, humid, cloudy, cold front |
| 16:00.12 | elg | delicious weather |
| 16:00.16 | elg | -weather klru |
| 16:00.18 | levi | Nice. |
| 16:00.19 | brac | 29 minutes ago, on Fri May 16 15:31:00 UTC 2008, the wind was blowing at a speed of 4.63 meters per second (10.36 miles per hour) from the North at KLRU. The temperature was 16 degrees Celsius (61 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1025 hPa (30.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 63.2%. There were broken clouds at a height of 1250 meters (4100 feet), broken clouds at a |
| 16:00.19 | brac | height of 1433 meter (4700 feet) and overcast clouds at a height of 1524 meters (5000 feet). |
| 16:00.33 | levi | We're supposed to be having a heat wave for the next week or so. |
| 16:02.49 | levi | I need to get me a soil test kit to see roughly what I'm up against to get a garden to grow. |
| 16:02.52 | elg | this is supposed to last through sunday. that's a good 4-5 days solid. |
| 16:03.04 | elg | levi: mel would say you don't. you just make perfect dirt |
| 16:03.23 | elg | mel would think your book is a waste. I think you can probably learn from both |
| 16:03.35 | elg | and existing dirt is cheaper than perfect dirt, if it's already suitable :) |
| 16:03.45 | levi | I think Mel is insane for trying to grow stuff in 6" of dirt. |
| 16:03.53 | levi | Well, "dirt" |
| 16:04.39 | elg | well, unless he's a photoshopping scam artist it seems to work |
| 16:04.53 | elg | we'll find out |
| 16:05.01 | elg | but you can't wait for us to find out :) |
| 16:05.34 | levi | I've no doubt stuff will grow in it. But I'd like to see you grow a carrot. :P |
| 16:06.04 | elg | :) |
| 16:06.44 | elg | well obviously carrots (and a couple others) are going to do better in more dirt by nature |
| 16:07.05 | elg | i bet it just bends the carrot. we'll see. there's small carrot varieties too |
| 16:07.53 | bonez46 | those 'baby carrots' you buy in the store...aren't they just shaped from larger carrots? |
| 16:08.17 | elg | mel says he can teach (as in workshops) his system in 2 days (or was it hours) to an inexperienced gardener, and 2 weeks to an experienced gardener |
| 16:08.38 | elg | since the experienced gardener takes a while to deprogram |
| 16:08.44 | levi | bonez46: Yes. |
| 16:09.08 | levi | bonez46: Unless they're real baby carrots, which look like regular carrots except they're thin and short. |
| 16:11.29 | levi | elg: I've got a lot of loose dirt, and I can either garden in it, or pay someone to haul it off. Mel can go take a hike. :) |
| 16:11.43 | elg | that was my initial plan too |
| 16:11.48 | elg | but I couldn't get rid of the gravel on top of it |
| 16:11.55 | elg | I should say it isn't loose dirt |
| 16:12.21 | elg | i couldn't see myself spending enough to fill normal grow boxes |
| 16:12.25 | elg | but the 6" thing i could afford |
| 16:12.41 | levi | Mine really is, because I dug it out of the spot where my shed is standing now in order to level it. |
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| 16:14.17 | levi | My apple tree is blooming. :) |
| 16:14.36 | levi | We planted it early in the Spring. |
| 16:16.40 | elg | nice |
| 16:16.44 | elg | when will it have good apples? |
| 16:16.51 | levi | I have no idea. :) |
| 16:17.03 | elg | i was reading about planting apples from seed the other day and it said 6 years |
| 16:17.35 | elg | we would like to grow asparagus but they take 3 years to produce |
| 16:17.40 | levi | I think the ones you pick up from stores are likely to produce fruit in a season or two. |
| 16:17.54 | elg | probably |
| 16:17.59 | levi | Mmm, asparagus. |
| 16:18.53 | levi | You don't have to grow asparagus from seed, though. |
| 16:19.05 | elg | no, but even the cuts are generally "next season" |
| 16:19.13 | elg | and we hopefully will be here only one summer |
| 16:19.33 | findlay | levi: electromechanical transduction |
| 16:19.48 | findlay | I know how electric guitar pickups work |
| 16:19.48 | levi | findlay: What about it? |
| 16:20.02 | findlay | you seemed to want to contradict me last night |
| 16:20.09 | findlay | for some reason |
| 16:21.00 | findlay | induction happens when a wave translates from one domain to another |
| 16:21.38 | findlay | just saying that a pickup works as an electro(magnetic)mechanical transducer |
| 16:23.25 | findlay | s/induction/transduction/ |
| 16:23.27 | findlay | whatever |
| 16:24.18 | levi | I was trying to distinguish magnetic pickups from piezoelectric pickups. |
| 16:24.44 | findlay | I didn't know they had piezoelectric pickups |
| 16:24.54 | findlay | that sounds interesting. What are they used for? |
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| 16:25.59 | levi | Well, electric violins, for one. Also for acoustic and semi-acoustic guitars. |
| 16:26.02 | bonez46 | sound pickup....as in guitar..and other... |
| 16:26.21 | findlay | interesting |
| 16:27.38 | levi | There are apparently also optical pickups now. |
| 16:30.17 | elg | so my hdhr returns to the nest today |
| 16:30.26 | elg | but my video card went haywire in the meantime :( |
| 16:30.37 | levi | elg: What do you mean by 'returns to the nest'? |
| 16:30.41 | elg | my house |
| 16:30.46 | levi | Where was it? |
| 16:30.48 | elg | like a pigeon |
| 16:30.56 | elg | RMA - getting IR receiver fixed/replaced |
| 16:31.05 | elg | maybe I even have a new hdhr now. who knows |
| 16:31.18 | levi | Huh. Well, hopefully this one is trouble-free. |
| 16:31.44 | elg | ya. i could have made do without the IR, but I didn't know if the IR not working was a symptom of something that would bite me later |
| 16:31.58 | levi | I've never checked mine. |
| 16:33.34 | elg | http://www.kdbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=8333693&nav=menu608_2 |
| 16:33.40 | elg | i heard the whole thing on my scanner :) |
| 16:34.03 | elg | sheesh, they can't even spell rudder |
| 16:34.26 | elg | lol, this article is hilarious |
| 16:35.23 | elg | albuquerque center ATC, not albuquerque airport. he landed on the taxiway because it was most in line with the wind, not because it "wasn't blowing as hard" |
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| 16:36.00 | elg | circled a few times is a bit of an understatement. he was practicing approaches to various runways for about an hour |
| 16:36.28 | elg | he was landing at el paso, a gust lifted his plane and almost flipped him wing over |
| 16:36.58 | elg | managed to get airborne again, something about rudder control was damaged in the process. maybe because of wind or whatever I don't know, they sent him to las cruces |
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| 17:27.46 | elg | -lart jsmith |
| 17:27.47 | brac | signs jsmith up for AOL |
| 17:28.24 | jsmith | elg: What was that for? |
| 17:28.38 | jsmith | -chat about elg is |
| 17:28.38 | brac | elg is a good idea. I can do that |
| 17:28.41 | elg | ok, weird |
| 17:28.46 | elg | i see no text in this window |
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| 17:28.56 | elg | -lart jsmith again |
| 17:28.57 | jsmith | -chat about elg was |
| 17:28.57 | brac | forces jsmith again to use emacs for text editing |
| 17:28.57 | brac | elg was yesterday's lunch |
| 17:29.31 | findlay | elg: so, vim and 'tabs' |
| 17:30.09 | elg | what? |
| 17:30.19 | findlay | my question exactly |
| 17:30.39 | findlay | what about them? Are they useable, are the good, are they 'cool'? |
| 17:30.42 | findlay | I must know |
| 17:30.49 | elg | they suck |
| 17:30.53 | findlay | :( |
| 17:30.56 | elg | minibufexplorer sucks less |
| 17:31.03 | elg | macvim has real tabs, and they rock |
| 17:31.33 | elg | so there you have it |
| 17:31.46 | nick125 | still is a nano user..hehe |
| 17:32.42 | elg | http://www.microsoft.com/opensource/heroes/default.mspx |
| 17:33.14 | nick125 | *cough* |
| 17:35.06 | sinuhe | Interesting use of verbage. It's clearly a ruse, the buggers. "Do what you love..." OK. I'll continue using free software, not that proprietary non-sense. |
| 17:36.01 | nick125 | Microsoft made a funny. |
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| 17:45.30 | bonez46 | what might this mean, when running xpdf " Warning : attempt to remove nonexistant passive grab" ????? |
| 17:47.13 | elg | it's hip to jump on the oss bandwagon |
| 17:47.19 | elg | sun, microsoft |
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| 17:53.44 | elg | oh no, my lunch just crashed |
| 17:53.48 | elg | salad error: insufficient ranch |
| 17:53.57 | eggyknap | ranch fail. |
| 17:55.37 | findlay | ~pickle elg |
| 17:55.38 | ibot | ACTION crams elg in a barrel, adds some brine and seasoning, and lets elg sit for a long while in a dark room until elg is ripe |
| 17:55.57 | elg | if i'm in a barrel, why do i need to be in a dark room? |
| 17:57.12 | nick125 | needs to look for a new issue tracker...hrm |
| 17:57.17 | nick125 | Any suggestions? |
| 17:57.26 | elg | Jayce^ likes rt |
| 17:57.57 | nick125 | puts that on the list to try |
| 17:58.13 | elg | fogbugz is cool but not free |
| 17:58.40 | elg | people that install bugzilla should be shot |
| 17:58.45 | elg | there you have my full gamut of opinion |
| 17:58.58 | nick125 | bugzilla is....meh |
| 17:59.06 | goozbach | rt + rtfm |
| 17:59.07 | goozbach | or track |
| 17:59.13 | goozbach | s/track/trac/ |
| 17:59.20 | elg | trac is nice too |
| 17:59.27 | elg | but limiting |
| 17:59.29 | nick125 | Bugzilla doesn't seem like it would work well for tracking issues rather than bugs. |
| 18:00.06 | elg | there's been a lot of buzz about github recently though I haven't looked at it |
| 18:00.08 | Jayce^ | RT |
| 18:00.11 | elg | seems to be git-centric as you might guess |
| 18:00.44 | nick125 | If I could have something that would handle code issues (bugs) as well, that'd be cool too. |
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| 18:24.18 | levi | I love how asterisk emails me my voicemail. |
| 18:29.53 | jsmith | levi: Glad to hear it ;-) |
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| 18:54.57 | mrpull | turns out Ubuntu is actually just Windows Vista with a few custom themes |
| 18:55.33 | bonez46 | mrpull surely, you jest....? |
| 18:56.12 | levi | bonez46 is apparently not an xkcd reader. |
| 19:01.48 | bonez46 | xkcd ? PLEASE, inform me..I dont' want to not know |
| 19:02.59 | levi | (that was a hint to type 'xkcd' into google) |
| 19:03.30 | bonez46 | ah... |
| 19:06.09 | bonez46 | thanks...levi... very cool..... |
| 19:06.27 | mrpull | xkcd has been a little off lately, but that one was quoteworthy |
| 19:11.18 | levi | I don't think he's been off, just that he's got a bunch of different themes that appeal to different people. |
| 19:11.45 | mrpull | damn you levi ;-) ... making sense again |
| 19:12.10 | levi | Sorry, I'll try to be more incoherent in the future. |
| 19:21.55 | levi | Hmm, I think I'm going to turn the sprinkler circuit that's currently a bunch of rotating spray heads into a drip irrigation circuit. I'll then extend the circuit that waters the rest of the backyard to the area they used to cover, since I'll be eliminating several heads due to a playground and patio. |
| 19:22.25 | levi | That way I won't have to re-do any of the main lines, valves, or wiring. |
| 19:22.45 | mrpull | my wife wants a playground.... tinkering with the sprinklers is a major deterrent for me |
| 19:23.02 | mrpull | I had a fly-by-night guy do the install |
| 19:23.21 | levi | You're doomed to tinkering with the sprinklers. :) |
| 19:23.22 | mrpull | three consecutive years I've had to fix a broken pipe in the spring :-/ |
| 19:23.42 | levi | Do you shut the water off at the end of fall? |
| 19:23.51 | mrpull | yes |
| 19:24.21 | mrpull | the lines aren't deep enough... I turned them on too early this year |
| 19:24.24 | mrpull | and got burned |
| 19:24.28 | mrpull | (or frozen) |
| 19:24.37 | levi | I guess you need to either blow out the lines with compressed air, or install a drain at the point the line breaks next time. |
| 19:25.20 | lakshmi | hey yall |
| 19:25.48 | levi | My lines must have drains, because they don't seem to hold water after the valve feeding them shuts off. |
| 19:25.55 | mrpull | you are right with eternal tinkering |
| 19:26.24 | mrpull | I've got drains, but again, I "saved a buck" by having a doofus put them in |
| 19:26.33 | mrpull | I've got valves everywhere |
| 19:27.10 | levi | I'm just about finished tinkering with the front yard. I just need to redo the flex pipe for one head I had to relocate and kinked or something. |
| 19:27.37 | levi | I've got two valve boxes and a filter box. |
| 19:27.58 | levi | I'm on irrigation water, so the filter is important. |
| 19:28.05 | levi | I should flush it more regularly, though. |
| 19:29.24 | mrpull | this last break was in adjacent to a T and under another line... it was a PITA |
| 19:29.25 | levi | Anyway, the sprinkler system used to be a deterrent to doing stuff, but now that I've done some major repairs, it doesn't scare me so much anymore. |
| 19:29.45 | mrpull | but in a way I felt like the dad on A Christmas Story that times himself when a fuse gets blown |
| 19:29.52 | mrpull | I knocked that sucker out in about 30 minutes |
| 19:31.02 | elg | levi: you don't want to sow weeds? |
| 19:32.08 | findlay | mrpull: I feel the same every time I approach my car with tools :) |
| 19:32.18 | levi | Yeah, one of my breaks (they were all due to the fence install) was right next to the filter box and was partially cemented by a fence post. It was also right next to a 3/4" tee that reduced to 1/2" on two legs, one of which was inches from the sidewalk. I had to dig around the fence post and underneath the sidewalk to make the cut, use a couple of 45 degree couplers to move it around the fencepost, etc. |
| 19:32.19 | findlay | which is ... frequent |
| 19:32.43 | levi | elg: My yard produces plenty of weeds without me sowing them. |
| 19:41.51 | elg | sigh. how do you condense a 70-page paper into a 45-minute presentation? |
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| 19:42.49 | levi | Just edit out the filler you added to pad it to 70 pages. ;) |
| 19:43.43 | findlay | ~squid++ |
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| 19:48.53 | elg | interesting. our library is starting a mail-borrow program |
| 19:49.12 | elg | you say 'mail it to me' on the website and they do, postage paid |
| 19:49.21 | Tene | Interesting. |
| 19:49.26 | elg | i guess you have to return it the old-fashioned way though |
| 19:49.42 | mrpull | elg: netflix for dead trees... sweet, except the return part |
| 19:50.11 | mrpull | I guess with bigger library systems they are moving books from branch to branch frequently... why not branch to customer? |
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| 19:52.25 | sjansen | ~lart sucky stupid VB apps |
| 19:52.25 | ibot | wallops sucky stupid VB apps with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long |
| 19:52.41 | sjansen | ~lart sucky stupid win32 |
| 19:52.41 | ibot | puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, sucky stupid win32, this won't hurt a bit...." |
| 19:52.56 | sjansen | ~lart sucky stupid Windows in general |
| 19:52.56 | ibot | takes out a cattle prod and gives sucky stupid Windows in general a good jolt |
| 19:52.57 | elg | ~lart sjansen32 |
| 19:52.57 | ibot | squishes sjansen32 like a bug |
| 19:53.19 | sjansen | elg: Ha! There's still 31 of me you missed. |
| 19:53.32 | elg | ~exterminate sjanse |
| 19:53.33 | ibot | ACTION zaps sjanse with a low-budget lazer beam effect, then continues roving about every which way, while shouting "exterminate! exterminate!" with a rasping staccato voice |
| 19:53.34 | Dew420 | Wow, is Utah really the only state that has a irc channel on freenode? |
| 19:53.50 | Dew420 | Didn't really like the idea of going through alll the channels :P |
| 19:54.12 | eggyknap | Utah's where it's at :) |
| 19:54.20 | findlay | sure is |
| 19:54.24 | findlay | ~utah |
| 19:54.24 | ibot | [utah] the place for fun |
| 19:54.27 | Dew420 | Lol, just moved here a little over a month ago. Ogden |
| 19:54.29 | findlay | yay |
| 19:54.35 | elg | i doubt many other states are as cohesive |
| 19:54.37 | sjansen | Well, #utah is mostly Linux people. So if you're looking for the same idea, you'll find other channels too. For example, #orlug |
| 19:54.42 | elg | maybe rhode island |
| 19:54.46 | eggyknap | .oO("This is the happenin' place. -- Brigham Young") |
| 19:55.10 | findlay | or coherent |
| 19:55.13 | elg | utah has the odd situation where most of the state is nontechnical except the big swath from spanish fork to ogden |
| 19:55.35 | Dew420 | Nah this channel will do fine :). I mean, I live in Utah, Im a linux user... seems im in the right channel |
| 19:55.36 | elg | which is geographically small enough that linux geeks therein tend to interact. it's a bit bimodal around slc and utah county |
| 19:55.44 | Dew420 | lol |
| 19:56.03 | elg | other states are not so cohesive in their geek distributions :) |
| 19:56.08 | sjansen | Most of the sate is non-populated except for the big swath from spanish fork to ogden. (We like to pretend southern utah is another state.) |
| 19:56.27 | eggyknap | heh |
| 19:56.49 | Dew420 | Cool. |
| 19:57.24 | elg | of course, most of #utah is people out of state... |
| 19:57.24 | Dew420 | So what distro's of linux do you all use? |
| 19:57.43 | ^Migs^ | Ubuntu |
| 19:58.19 | ^Migs^ | Ogden rocks, btw. I live in the Ogden area, too. |
| 19:58.23 | sjansen | RHEL, Fedora, Ubuntu, SLES & SUSE |
| 19:58.29 | ^Migs^ | what part of Ogden did you move to? |
| 19:58.32 | elg | debian |
| 19:58.39 | ^Migs^ | I'm using SUSE right now but meaning to install Ubuntu 8.04 here |
| 19:58.42 | elg | Jayce^ uses some wizard distro |
| 19:58.52 | elg | i'm sure someone still uses gentoo |
| 19:59.08 | eggyknap | .o("FreeBSD") |
| 19:59.10 | sjansen | findly is a ricer^? gentoo user IIRC |
| 19:59.11 | findlay | gentoo |
| 19:59.17 | elg | we don't talk about the BSDers |
| 19:59.37 | elg | rice gentoo? |
| 20:00.01 | findlay | I was at an orientation yesterday where they blathered for 2 hours about how to use a website and why you should do your homework at UU |
| 20:00.23 | findlay | anyway, the guy sitting next to me was really interested in my eeepc |
| 20:00.33 | findlay | said he'd get one and install ubuntu on it |
| 20:00.55 | findlay | the other guy sitting next to me started talking about how 8.04 was giving him lots of problems |
| 20:01.15 | findlay | is it just me or does nobody run or want to run windows anymore? |
| 20:01.35 | eggyknap | Some folks around here (myself included) are having problems with newer Ubuntu versions, as well. 7.10 killed my wireless, so I had to backdate to 7.04 |
| 20:02.13 | mrpull | is still a windows lover (and simultaneous hater) |
| 20:02.22 | findlay | hehe |
| 20:02.30 | findlay | isn't all SW like that? |
| 20:02.59 | sjansen | Dew420: So are you a wonderful Vim lovin', RPM grokking, GNOME user? Or an evil emacs abusin', DPKG suffering, KDE user? |
| 20:03.11 | Dew420 | ^Migs^: near 2nd + Washington blvd |
| 20:03.18 | eggyknap | findlay: open source is often less so, in my experience. |
| 20:03.23 | Dew420 | lol Gnome |
| 20:03.34 | ^Migs^ | whoa |
| 20:03.39 | ^Migs^ | I'm right by you |
| 20:03.46 | Dew420 | lol shit *hides* :P |
| 20:03.47 | ^Migs^ | well, not my house, but where I am at work right now |
| 20:03.53 | ^Migs^ | I'm in the business depot |
| 20:03.55 | ^Migs^ | maybe not RIGHT by you |
| 20:03.56 | sjansen | ~language Dew420 |
| 20:04.12 | ibot | ACTION grabs Dew420 by the ear and washes Dew420's mouth out with soap |
| 20:04.12 | findlay | ^Migs^: now you're obligated to drape TP across his lawn |
| 20:04.12 | ^Migs^ | I actually used to live less than a mile frmo where you are, thoguh |
| 20:04.14 | ^Migs^ | right across the street from the Wal-Mart |
| 20:04.21 | sinuhe | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:04.23 | Dew420 | thats not far at all |
| 20:04.34 | Dew420 | Not sure where the buisness depot is |
| 20:04.43 | ^Migs^ | due west of you |
| 20:04.50 | sjansen | sinuhe: emacs is an interesting platform, but a lousy editor |
| 20:04.55 | Dew420 | Havn't had much time..well no correction. Been to busy messing with this stuff to bother exploring much |
| 20:04.56 | JoshH | i make fun of emacs and i have never used it |
| 20:04.58 | findlay | heh |
| 20:05.03 | ^Migs^ | probably about a mile and a half away |
| 20:05.09 | ^Migs^ | I actually live in Roy, though |
| 20:05.13 | sinuhe | sjansen: Emacs is a complicated editor. It's easier to learn vi. |
| 20:05.18 | ^Migs^ | what brought you to Ogden, anyway? |
| 20:05.21 | Dew420 | I just walked up Second Street towards Harrison to check out that moutain |
| 20:05.23 | Dew420 | Dad lives here |
| 20:05.28 | ^Migs^ | cool |
| 20:05.40 | levi | sjansen: That's a silly thing to say, considering it can work as an editor just like a vi-clone if you want it to. |
| 20:05.56 | elg | i'll believe that when I see it |
| 20:05.58 | ^Migs^ | go check out the Utah Renaissance Fair. This is the last weekend: http://www.utahrenfest.com |
| 20:06.02 | ^Migs^ | I'm heading over there after work today |
| 20:06.17 | ^Migs^ | never been, but it's about 5-10 minutes from where you are |
| 20:06.19 | elg | i believe it can seem like a vi clone, to people who aren't into vi black magic |
| 20:06.21 | Dew420 | I've see posters for that actually lol. Looks interesting |
| 20:06.41 | Dew420 | I've been to a couple in England, family friends did them |
| 20:06.43 | sinuhe | I have forced myself to learn Emacs. I'm starting to realize, 4 months into it, what people like about it. It took four months. I still retreat to vi and ed. I am now aware, however, that emacs is not as bad as I thought it was. |
| 20:06.49 | sjansen | Sure, emacs has feature Vim doesn't (like meta-ctrl-x ctrl-super-l-m-n-o-p order-a-pizza-extra-cheese) but that's kinda my point. |
| 20:07.02 | ^Migs^ | here it seems like it's just a bunch of SCA nerds |
| 20:07.03 | elg | in fact, I'd believe it can be as much like vi as some vi clones |
| 20:07.14 | Dew420 | lol |
| 20:07.29 | levi | elg: Note that I didn't say it was like vi, or like vim, but like a vi clone. |
| 20:07.37 | sinuhe | elg: This is quite true. :-) |
| 20:07.39 | Dew420 | The only thing about moving back to the USA I don't like, Im under-age drinker here, but wasn't in england :(! lol |
| 20:07.40 | sjansen | levi: I don't want vi. I want Vim. |
| 20:07.55 | ^Migs^ | hahaha pwned |
| 20:08.00 | elg | yeah. nobody wants vi anymore. people settle for vi |
| 20:08.01 | sinuhe | vim takes all the fun out of ex/vi and makes it into emacs without tetris. |
| 20:08.16 | ^Migs^ | frankly, I think we have it backwards. Kids should be allowed to drink before they drive. That way they know their drinking limits before they hit the roads |
| 20:08.35 | Dew420 | wow, never looked at it that way |
| 20:08.37 | Dew420 | but it makes sense |
| 20:08.38 | ^Migs^ | or maybe I'm thinking too highly of teenagers |
| 20:08.43 | findlay | ~drink ^Migs^ |
| 20:08.46 | ibot | drinks ^Migs^ in one swig, turns blue, green, and ultraviolet, and then vomits ^Migs^ across the room |
| 20:08.53 | ^Migs^ | it's also likely they'd become alcoholics, THEN get behind the wheel |
| 20:08.59 | JoshH | Dew420: not only did you move to a country with a higher drinking age, you really picked the wrong state as well :) |
| 20:09.01 | ^Migs^ | ~findlay findlay |
| 20:09.02 | ibot | ACTION recreationally nmaps findlay with abandon |
| 20:09.07 | Dew420 | lol |
| 20:09.16 | Dew420 | I didn't really pick it ;( |
| 20:09.19 | ^Migs^ | yeah, I hope you fancy watered down alcohol |
| 20:09.43 | Dew420 | :( no lol |
| 20:10.02 | JoshH | it's not quite saudi arabia, but close |
| 20:10.12 | ^Migs^ | your Dad sure lived a long way from "home." How did he end up here? |
| 20:10.16 | findlay | you can see it, though |
| 20:10.16 | sjansen | Y'all just don't know how to enjoy Utah. You haven't lived until you've had caffeine free Barqs root beer. ;-) |
| 20:10.32 | ^Migs^ | Barqs ftw |
| 20:10.39 | Dew420 | Well, I was born over here and lived various states till I moved to England after the rents split |
| 20:10.48 | Dew420 | His ex gf wanted to move out here near "family" |
| 20:10.54 | Dew420 | now she moved states o.O |
| 20:11.26 | Dew420 | I moved back out here due to not enjoying life in england anymore... |
| 20:11.43 | Dew420 | All the anti-american "jokes" got old |
| 20:11.51 | JoshH | not to mention terrible food |
| 20:11.53 | sjansen | Yeah, you can only eat so much fish and chips. |
| 20:12.13 | sjansen | Although the deep fried snickers aren't bad. ;-) |
| 20:12.19 | Dew420 | lol |
| 20:12.20 | ^Migs^ | Brits are just jealous of our awesomeness |
| 20:12.30 | ^Migs^ | and the fact we speak English properly and they don't |
| 20:12.40 | JoshH | i had fish and chips last night, and won't be wanting more for a few years |
| 20:12.53 | sjansen | ^Migs^: We speak English GOOD and they don't. Get it right. |
| 20:13.10 | Dew420 | lol. I'd never eat fish + chips from a "British Chippy" |
| 20:13.32 | Dew420 | or anywhere really. not much of a fish person |
| 20:13.41 | ^Migs^ | what kind of Brit are you? |
| 20:13.49 | findlay | fish is an interesting shell |
| 20:13.52 | Dew420 | Im not, Im American :P |
| 20:13.56 | findlay | needs to try it out again |
| 20:14.01 | ^Migs^ | no wonder you moved here. A mob probably drove you out. |
| 20:14.05 | Dew420 | lol |
| 20:14.07 | ^Migs^ | oh good. |
| 20:14.14 | ^Migs^ | Americans rock |
| 20:14.33 | sjansen | http://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/susan/joke/heaven.htm |
| 20:14.34 | findlay | rock canyon is rocky |
| 20:14.45 | mrpull | ~rock |
| 20:14.45 | ibot | it has been said that rock is an addon framework for World of Warcraft written by ckknight. More information is available at http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock. It is also an object best not thrown in glass houses. what we're all about, it's what we live for, c'mon and shout it out |
| 20:14.45 | findlay | lots of different kinds of rocks to look at |
| 20:15.17 | findlay | big rocks, grey rocks, rocks in your shoe |
| 20:15.22 | Dew420 | lol |
| 20:15.32 | Dew420 | I thought rocks + glass = fun? |
| 20:15.33 | findlay | all that can be had on a stroll up rock canyon |
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| 20:18.13 | mrpull | I've gotta re-cable my home entertainment center this weekend... ugh |
| 20:18.44 | findlay | mrpull: putting in your new $10000 sattelites? :) |
| 20:18.45 | mrpull | at first I get excited with the cable wraps and labels and by the end I'm ready to throw it all out of the window |
| 20:18.59 | mrpull | nah, the wife got some new furniture |
| 20:19.20 | mrpull | I wish I could justify a new AVR right now |
| 20:19.44 | mrpull | even a cheap one, just so I could have HDMI switching |
| 20:20.08 | Dew420 | I'd got for a tv that dosn't say "Please Set The Clock" Permanently on the bottom |
| 20:20.28 | Dew420 | Never watch a movie where sub-titles are needed =] |
| 20:22.21 | levi | I need a cabinet for my AV equipment. |
| 20:23.09 | levi | I also need to mount my speakers on the wall. |
| 20:23.35 | levi | And I need to run my ethernet cable through the house. |
| 20:24.08 | levi | But that stuff will probably wait for bad-weather days. Good-weather days are consumed by yard work. |
| 20:25.24 | mrpull | I was fortunate to have the in wall stuff done before just before we moved in. |
| 20:25.33 | ^Migs^ | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7404268.stm' |
| 20:25.38 | ^Migs^ | Obese people are contributing to the world food crisis and climate change, experts say. |
| 20:25.39 | ^Migs^ | hahahaha |
| 20:25.46 | ^Migs^ | They are also responsible for using more fuel, which has an environmental impact and drives up food prices as transport and agriculture both use oil. |
| 20:25.54 | ^Migs^ | blame the overweight |
| 20:26.06 | mrpull | at the time I didnt' think I'd have three Ethernet (Xbox360, bluray, DVR)devices in my cabinet |
| 20:26.49 | elg | it's easy, the obese are too lazy to fight back |
| 20:27.55 | mrpull | the dvr does have a "switch" in it that allows you to daisy chain ethernet to another device... if samsung doesn't upgrade the bluray to Live I'll probably just leave it unplugged. |
| 20:28.31 | mrpull | either way, I guess I'm somewhat excited, the cabinets were custom designed for the TV and my gear, but still suit the wifes design requirements |
| 20:29.03 | levi | We've got a corner alcove that the TV sits in. |
| 20:31.40 | Dew420 | Hey ^Migs^ you hear that plane? see just how close you are :P lol. flew over about 5 mins ag |
| 20:32.08 | ^Migs^ | I had my headphones on :( |
| 20:32.17 | ^Migs^ | plus I'm in a pretty insulated building |
| 20:32.24 | Dew420 | lol, fair enough :P |
| 20:32.33 | Dew420 | So, whats your job? |
| 20:33.34 | ^Migs^ | I'm the web manager of the Weber School District |
| 20:33.43 | ^Migs^ | I build web sites and crap |
| 20:34.15 | ^Migs^ | and I like to say "web manager" instead of "web developer" even though I'm pretty much the only web developer because it makes me sound cool |
| 20:35.12 | Dew420 | lol |
| 20:35.43 | Dew420 | You enjoy it? |
| 20:36.01 | ^Migs^ | I love my job |
| 20:36.36 | ^Migs^ | I find it personally rewarding :) |
| 20:36.45 | elg | that's his cover story |
| 20:36.47 | Dew420 | I have considered that option before, but I don't think I had enough motivation to learn it all |
| 20:36.51 | elg | he's actually either an fbi agent or a troll |
| 20:36.53 | Dew420 | lol |
| 20:37.01 | JoshH | think of all the kids you are helping by providing such great web sites for their school district |
| 20:37.08 | Dew420 | Can't you tell by his name? He's really MIG pilot |
| 20:37.23 | ^Migs^ | exactly |
| 20:37.39 | ^Migs^ | more like the parents who get to monitor their kids' grades and attendance on the web |
| 20:37.39 | sjansen | Dew420: Don't do it. The more you learn about Web technologies the more depressing it is. |
| 20:38.32 | ^Migs^ | nonsense. You gotta remain optimistic. |
| 20:38.34 | Dew420 | lol, I did do a some self-teaching and started a course in the UK in it.. thats what made me realise it wasn't quite for me |
| 20:39.12 | Dew420 | Still a hobby of mine to design, code, and setup random websites |
| 20:39.26 | Dew420 | nothing good imo :P but hey |
| 20:39.39 | ^Migs^ | frankly, I find all you sysadmins boring |
| 20:39.48 | ^Migs^ | see, I'm actually CREATING stuff |
| 20:40.05 | ^Migs^ | you're just sitting there plunking away on your servers that no one ever sees anyway |
| 20:40.17 | sjansen | Oh I'm optimistic. I'm optimistic that someday someone will write a virus to delete IE from every system in the world, then break into MS and blow up every server with any IE source code on it. |
| 20:40.30 | JoshH | i don't know what it's like to create somethign, i only know how to destroy |
| 20:40.38 | Dew420 | lol |
| 20:40.55 | ^Migs^ | ugh |
| 20:41.02 | Dew420 | I have to say Migs, I did, and still do enjoy the part of knowing I created the thing |
| 20:41.07 | ^Migs^ | I hate IE |
| 20:41.12 | Dew420 | even if all I have created are rather simple :P |
| 20:41.18 | ^Migs^ | now with IE8, I have to, like, test against 4 browsers, 3 of them IE |
| 20:41.27 | sjansen | ^Migs^: Yeah, but think how much fun you could be having getting payed to learn and teach Linux. |
| 20:41.28 | ^Migs^ | and none of them work the same |
| 20:41.31 | JoshH | ie8 is out now? |
| 20:41.34 | ^Migs^ | in beta |
| 20:41.45 | JoshH | see, that's why i'm glad i don't make web sites |
| 20:41.50 | ^Migs^ | oh you don't want me teaching Linux |
| 20:41.53 | elg | there's got to be a way to get IE to fire up that windows update thing when they visit your website, right? |
| 20:41.56 | ^Migs^ | first of all, I'm a Linux noob. Second of all, I'm a horrible teacher. |
| 20:42.03 | ^Migs^ | I've done training before, and I suck at it. |
| 20:42.04 | sjansen | As usual, this is the point where I reminder everyone that Guru Labs is hiring. |
| 20:42.21 | elg | and you can detect old IE and spoof a microsoft official-looking page about how their system is at risk until they update to IE$LATEST |
| 20:42.24 | JoshH | there has to be a way to code in some kind of activex that automatically downloads and launches firefox |
| 20:42.41 | Dew420 | lol, Im sure there is josh, just not sure people will appreciate it =] |
| 20:42.56 | nick125 | JoshH: That'd actually be the first useful ActiveX control I've seen. |
| 20:42.56 | Dew420 | Well... they should love you for it |
| 20:42.56 | ^Migs^ | or just exploit their old browser and give them a virus |
| 20:43.17 | ^Migs^ | people should love me no matter what I do |
| 20:43.55 | ^Migs^ | I don't even care too much about IE6 anymore. Most of my users have IE7 by now. |
| 20:44.05 | elg | a website that says: warning, you are accessing this site with an old version of internet explorer. your computer will be infected with {pr0n,viruses,lawrence welk} if you do not update RIGHT NOW |
| 20:44.17 | elg | that should take care of 60% of people |
| 20:44.37 | levi | elg: You should try growing potatoes in a barrel. I think I might give it a shot. |
| 20:45.54 | Jayce^ | sjansen: you good at remindering people? |
| 20:47.20 | Dew420 | I sense boredom setting in. |
| 20:57.12 | sjansen | Jayce^: I'm the bestest. |
| 20:58.35 | bonez46 | oh, that lawrence welk threat...that moves mountains.... |
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| 21:11.09 | nick125 | stabs rt |
| 21:20.47 | Sargun | you love RT. |
| 21:23.05 | ^Migs^ | http://stella.sourceforge.net/ |
| 21:23.05 | brac | [Stella: "A multi-platform Atari 2600 VCS emulator"] |
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| 21:33.53 | Jayce^ | http://limerickdb.com/?434 |
| 21:33.54 | brac | [LimerickDB: Administration] |
| 21:34.14 | goozbach | dd if=/dev/\#utah of=/dev/goozbach/brain bs=1EB count=3 |
| 21:35.19 | jsmith | Ugh... anybody fancy themselves a mechanic in here? |
| 21:40.07 | Dew420 | ^Migs^ you just gave me entertainment for days |
| 21:40.17 | Dew420 | CMON PONG |
| 21:40.20 | ^Migs^ | hahaha |
| 21:40.25 | ^Migs^ | try this one too: http://www.virtualapple.org |
| 21:40.29 | brac | [Virtual Apple 2 - Online disk archive] |
| 21:40.54 | Dew420 | and it's even updated for hardy..ahhh the joys when things go smoothly |
| 21:42.36 | Dew420 | I do believe you just re-introduced me to what my first pc was like :P |
| 21:54.31 | nick125 | Oh god, I remember why I gave up on trying to install RT the last time. |
| 22:08.12 | mrpull | nick125: installing RT is a whole lot easier than it used to be |
| 22:08.19 | mrpull | what distro are you installing it to? |
| 22:08.32 | nick125 | mrpull: Gentoo |
| 22:08.35 | nick125 | with lighttpd |
| 22:08.51 | mrpull | hrrmm... I would have thought Gentoo would make it easy |
| 22:09.04 | mrpull | debian makes it almost point and drool |
| 22:09.04 | nick125 | It's mainly the lighttpd part that's making it hard...I think I got it working, though. |
| 22:09.49 | mrpull | the first time I installed it, the scripts didn't do a sanity check about what packages where installed... |
| 22:09.59 | mrpull | you'd do ./configure wait for it to fail |
| 22:10.02 | mrpull | install a package |
| 22:10.10 | mrpull | repeat 100 times and it finally worked |
| 22:10.32 | mrpull | that was 7 or 8 years ago I suppose :) |
| 22:11.46 | mrpull | when is RT going to have it's spiffy new web2.0 interface? |
| 22:12.27 | Tene | Looks like TPF just got a $200k grant for work on Perl 6. |
| 22:12.35 | Tene | Half of it allocated for seeking further funding. |
| 22:12.48 | mrpull | gotta have money to make money |
| 22:17.35 | mrpull | the Jifty wiki seems dormant. Is best practical still working on it? |
| 22:17.59 | Tene | mrpull: look at the svn history. |
| 22:18.03 | Tene | It's pretty active, iirc. |
| 22:18.27 | mrpull | the only edits to the wiki in the last year or so look like link spam |
| 22:18.44 | mrpull | I guess I don't care enough to dig into the SVN repositories |
| 22:21.15 | Tene | http://lists.jifty.org/pipermail/jifty-commit/ |
| 22:21.32 | Tene | 125 commits so far in may |
| 22:27.33 | mrpull | I'd love to see RT steal some of service-now's ITIL features |
| 22:27.49 | mrpull | especially workflows for change control |
| 22:29.16 | nick125 | is trying Roundup now |
| 22:29.58 | mrpull | you want RT |
| 22:30.05 | mrpull | you just need to get it installed :) |
| 22:30.38 | nick125 | And configured. And configured some more. |
| 22:54.20 | elg | Anyone familiar with that webcasting stuff? what kind of framerates can you get? |
| 22:55.08 | elg | i.e. can I record a few seconds of spectrogram visualization using vnc2flv or whatever it is you use to do screencasts |
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| 23:00.56 | Dew420 | Wow, I regret ever joining the Pidgin channel |
| 23:01.11 | nick125 | Dew420: I've heard bad things about #pidgin. |
| 23:19.55 | Dew420 | oh yeah nick125 ? |
| 23:20.15 | Dew420 | I've never had problems lol |
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| 23:25.49 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | UTOSC 2008 Call for Papers @http://2008.utosc.com | tensai has a new daughter - Congratulations! |
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| 23:45.42 | maquis | Tene: congrats! |
| 23:45.50 | maquis | er |
| 23:45.53 | maquis | tensai: congrats! |
| 23:45.59 | maquis | Tene: congrats are rescinded |
| 23:46.57 | Tene | Aw. :( |
| 23:48.39 | sjansen | Tene: It's okay. We still like you. |
| 23:52.22 | maquis | desk phones should not play music |
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