| 00:02.46 | rsimpkins | Hey - who is coming to PLUG next week? |
| 00:02.59 | rsimpkins | I'm I expecting too many if we plan for 50? |
| 00:04.04 | findlay | I'm coming |
| 00:04.53 | rsimpkins | findlay: Well, you are worth what - 20 people? |
| 00:06.00 | findlay | nearly |
| 00:08.26 | nick125 | rsimpkins: It's probably better to plan for too many than run out of space |
| 00:09.01 | sontek | :D |
| 00:11.12 | rsimpkins | The room supports 100 people. |
| 00:14.09 | sontek | I think the plug meetings need to more geeky |
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| 00:22.52 | Tene | sontek: I'll be in town... what's the topic? |
| 00:23.31 | findlay | licorice |
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| 02:33.20 | elg | ~lart children's authors who make up words that rhyme and fill a book with about 3 dozen per page, and have no sense of emeter |
| 02:33.20 | ibot | offers children's authors who make up words that rhyme and fill a book with about 3 dozen per page, and have no sense of emeter some herring |
| 02:33.27 | elg | s/emeter/meter/ |
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| 02:48.10 | goozbach | soo tired |
| 02:48.30 | goozbach | sick of standing |
| 02:48.32 | goozbach | want sleep |
| 02:48.38 | goozbach | but must continue to make progress |
| 02:49.10 | sontek | ~boost goozbach |
| 02:52.03 | jsmith | goozbach: Whatcha' hackin' on? |
| 02:52.35 | goozbach | jsmith: getting our platform ready for the launch of our new product |
| 02:53.07 | jsmith | goozbach: Gotcha... |
| 02:53.09 | goozbach | we launch on the 20th, and we (my jr admin) and I have been at the datacenter since 08:30 |
| 02:53.27 | jsmith | I've been at the office since 7:45 this morning, so I feel your pain |
| 02:53.39 | jsmith | is finishing up some expense reports and heading to the hotel soon, hopefully |
| 02:54.40 | goozbach | FYI system imager doesn't like LVM |
| 02:54.45 | goozbach | boo system imager |
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| 03:30.33 | Heartsbane | boooooooooooooo |
| 03:31.54 | undertakingyou | Heartsbane: why? |
| 04:49.04 | findlay | ~why |
| 04:49.04 | ibot | Why? Because you touch yourself at night. |
| 04:49.14 | findlay | ~herlo ibot |
| 04:49.15 | ibot | ACTION pokes ibot in they eye with a sharp needle |
| 05:12.40 | herlo | PLUG: welcome to the NEXT flamewar! |
| 05:31.57 | levi | herlo: Hmm? |
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| 07:03.14 | findlay | yay |
| 07:17.54 | harleypig_away | http://www.kptv.com/news/16161182/detail.html |
| 07:17.57 | brac | [Afghanistan Firefight Heard On Voice Mail - News Story - KPTV Portland] |
| 07:18.04 | harleypig_away | Not a voice mail I wanna get... |
| 07:27.19 | Sargun | whoa |
| 07:28.16 | Supaplex | harleypig would rather be recording it |
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| 13:29.53 | elg | does catnip attract cats, or just intoxicate the ones that find it in the first place? |
| 13:35.09 | fozzmoo | It appears integra/eschelon is having some issues this morning. |
| 13:36.32 | goozbach | it appears that I didn't get much sleep last night |
| 13:36.42 | fozzmoo | goozbach: It appears your job kinda sucks. |
| 13:37.04 | fozzmoo | It kinda rocks too... but comes with "sucks" too. |
| 13:39.10 | fozzmoo | elg: (Wikipedia) Catnip contains nepetalactone, a terpene. Nepetalactone can be extracted from catnip using steam distillation.[10] Cats detect it through their olfactory epithelium and not through their vomeronasal organ.[11] At the olfactory epithelium, the nepetalactone is hypothesized to bind to one or more olfactory receptors where it probably mimics a cat pheromone, such as the hypothetical feline facial pheromone or the cat urine odorant |
| 13:40.20 | elg | so in other words yes? |
| 13:42.22 | elg | i wonder because catnip is reported to repel mosquitos, and we have a pretty bad mosquito problem in the summer |
| 13:43.09 | elg | but there's a church "yard" next door that seems to be a cat gathering place |
| 13:43.28 | elg | i don't want dozens of cats hanging out on my patio doing catnip any more than I want to deal with mosquitos |
| 13:43.49 | goozbach | elg: plant citronella or maragolds |
| 13:44.57 | elg | i plan on marigolds too |
| 13:45.34 | elg | just curious if planting catnip would ruin my life ;) |
| 13:47.11 | ^Migs^ | my cat is spayed so I'm not worried about other cats being around |
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| 13:50.33 | ^Migs^ | don't you have to crush the leaves for citronella, marigolds, or catnip to even work against mosquitos |
| 13:50.34 | ^Migs^ | ? |
| 13:55.51 | elg | i don't care if they breed |
| 13:56.07 | elg | i don't even care if they come in the yard, as long as they're quiet and don't mess up the rest of the garden |
| 13:57.03 | elg | as for crushing, i'm sure it's more effective when you distill out the active ingredient, but maybe just growing them will help. if you can smell it, it's probably doing its thing |
| 13:57.13 | elg | if not, well you can always crush it and spray it on :) |
| 13:57.21 | utahcon | marigolds will ward off bugs naturally, |
| 13:57.24 | utahcon | no crushgin |
| 14:09.45 | fozzmoo | Oh, the things you learn on IRC. ;-) |
| 14:16.37 | ^Migs^ | http://www.bigtentbooks.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=188 |
| 14:16.39 | brac | [My Beautiful Mommy by Michael Salzhauer, M.D. - btb038] |
| 14:18.29 | utahcon | :O |
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| 14:24.27 | fozzmoo | "My mommy's big, new boobs" Helping children cope with a parent's breast augmentation. |
| 14:24.46 | fozzmoo | ^Migs^: Good find. |
| 14:25.46 | fozzmoo | I think it's interesting the mom on the cover doesn't even appear to acknowledge the child. :) |
| 14:26.37 | ^Migs^ | yeah she's too busy flaunting her new fleshmounds and trying to find a new daddy for the kid |
| 14:27.21 | utahcon | That is the point of the book, "Mommy doesn't give a crap about _you_ anymore" |
| 14:27.53 | fozzmoo | "Here. Hold this teddy bear." |
| 14:30.04 | fozzmoo | Chapter 9: Understanding Daddy's new goofy grin |
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| 14:34.47 | elg | how many bonez is it now? |
| 14:34.51 | elg | can't remember |
| 14:36.00 | goozbach | fozzmoo: or Chapter 9: why daddy doesn't live with us anymore. |
| 14:36.24 | goozbach | and followed by Chapter 10: who is this "steve" guy anyway? and why is he constantly here? |
| 14:36.46 | fozzmoo | goozbach: Yeah. |
| 14:37.28 | fozzmoo | My mom got implants when I was a kid. |
| 14:38.04 | fozzmoo | She didn't go out to get them... she had to have some kind of surgery to remove some tissue... |
| 14:38.18 | fozzmoo | It wasn't cancer, but it was some kind of growths. |
| 14:38.37 | fozzmoo | She opted to get implants at that time. |
| 14:39.14 | fozzmoo | So... that would have been... 1980 or so. |
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| 14:39.54 | fozzmoo | A couple years ago, she was advised to have them removed or replaced. |
| 14:41.14 | fozzmoo | Anyway- I don't think I'd ever recommend the process to anyone. |
| 14:41.44 | fozzmoo | My brother, on the other hand, won't date a woman who either doesn't already have fakes or isn't willing to get them. |
| 14:42.01 | elg | i know i wouldn't recommend it to anyone. how awkward would that be? :) |
| 14:42.22 | fozzmoo | elg: Heh. |
| 14:43.22 | fozzmoo | Occasionally, I'll see some Hollywood actress, like Renée Zellweger, and say "She should get some work done." |
| 14:44.15 | fozzmoo | I'm not in a position to give that recommendation directly... not sure I'd be willing to given the chance. :) |
| 14:46.25 | elg | get uncle rico to do it for you |
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| 14:54.32 | goozbach | I dated a girl who was saving for them. I didn't think she needed them myself. |
| 14:55.37 | utahcon | I am always surprised by who wants them |
| 14:55.57 | Sargun | 1980, that's like more than a quarter of a century. |
| 14:56.01 | elg | my sister in law did it a year or two ago |
| 14:56.10 | elg | i think she looked better before |
| 14:56.36 | elg | but there's no doubt she looks more like what she's trying to look like now |
| 14:56.43 | utahcon | my sister-in-law (my sister's husband's sister) got them, she did NOT need them, but they still look good. |
| 14:56.49 | Sargun | Meh, its their choice. If they're shallow, demoralized, and needy for attention they will get implants. |
| 14:57.08 | utahcon | I wouldn't say those are the only reasons Sargun |
| 14:57.15 | Sargun | (Or just wanna manipulate men. Girls just wanna -snip snip- manipulate men) |
| 14:57.18 | dmdavis | my brother wants to marry a girl who's smart and has a nice body. I told him to worry about the things that _can't_ be fixed with surgery. :) kidding, though |
| 14:57.32 | fozzmoo | Sargun: Yeah- maybe they're just sick of men looking at their face when they talk to them. |
| 14:57.46 | elg | haha |
| 14:58.07 | goozbach | speaking of breasts: http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/photography/photos/enigmatic-earth/mammatus-clouds-photography.html |
| 14:58.09 | Sargun | fozzmoo, And you hear them constantly complaining about such related things. |
| 14:58.12 | Sargun | hehe |
| 14:58.41 | fozzmoo | Ahhhh. Mammatus clouds. |
| 14:58.53 | elg | they're really cool, unfortunately that picture doesn't do them justice |
| 14:58.59 | fozzmoo | sagging, pouch-like. |
| 14:59.02 | elg | they're starting to disintigrate already |
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| 15:02.36 | lakshmi | i need to wake up early more often, this channel is far more interesting in the mornings |
| 15:02.56 | fozzmoo | lakshmi: Nah. It's not. |
| 15:04.01 | lakshmi | if u say so, but when i scroll up i start to disagree |
| 15:04.36 | utahcon | this is a fluke |
| 15:07.59 | goozbach | yeah, ususally I'm not up this early |
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| 15:10.15 | tensai | elg: I say plant the catnip and put out a nice saucer of antifreeze. problem solved. |
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| 15:46.23 | sjansen | ~blame Canada |
| 15:46.24 | ibot | ACTION blames Canada (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 15:46.37 | tensai | ~canada sjansen |
| 15:48.16 | utahcon | ~blame tensai |
| 15:48.16 | ibot | ACTION blames tensai (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
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| 15:57.50 | sinuhe | sjansen: What did Canada do? |
| 15:58.21 | goozbach | sinuhe: what has it not done? |
| 15:59.14 | sinuhe | goozbach: Attacked Iraq? Lost a war? Military build up? Abandoned its people to a lack of health care... |
| 15:59.39 | harleypig | Ahhh ... I've missed my eclectic radio station on pandora. |
| 15:59.43 | sinuhe | blocked encryption mechanisms, blamed the innocent for terrorism... |
| 15:59.55 | harleypig | Just listened to Bobby Darin, Frank Sinatra and Black Sabbath! |
| 16:00.03 | utahcon | nice |
| 16:00.07 | sinuhe | harleypig: All at once? |
| 16:00.08 | sinuhe | :-) |
| 16:00.15 | harleypig | wellll ... one after the otehr. |
| 16:00.21 | harleypig | s/eh/he/ |
| 16:00.41 | utahcon | my cousin is writing a paper on how many artists can be overlayed and make even better music |
| 16:00.55 | harleypig | interesting. |
| 16:01.03 | utahcon | I am not talking mashups, but more literally playing song 1 ontop of song 2 at the same time. |
| 16:01.46 | harleypig | You know, there was a sci-fi novella that described that activity |
| 16:01.57 | dmdavis | utahcon: didn't bach do that? kind of... |
| 16:01.58 | harleypig | I can't remember the name, but it was when I was in high school. |
| 16:03.24 | utahcon | no clue dmdavis |
| 16:04.00 | dmdavis | utahcon: just thinking about fugues and such, where each line is a stand-alone melody (from what I understand) that when all played together, works beautifully |
| 16:36.52 | elg | anyone have opionions on carpet cleaning? |
| 16:37.08 | utahcon | do it |
| 16:37.18 | elg | got past that stage |
| 16:37.31 | elg | how to pick among the dozens of cleaners? |
| 16:37.34 | utahcon | good, you are moving in the right direction. |
| 16:37.36 | utahcon | oh... |
| 16:37.52 | utahcon | Price, Scheduling, Bonding/Insurance |
| 16:39.13 | utahcon | Insurance is IMO the most important. |
| 16:39.33 | utahcon | You don't want some scum bag coming in and messing up your carpets and then disappearing |
| 16:39.58 | elg | chain like chemdry.com (independently owned and operated) better or worse? |
| 16:40.41 | utahcon | I have used StanleySteemer, and a local guy (someone I knew). |
| 16:40.47 | utahcon | I have heard good things about ChemDry. |
| 16:41.37 | sjansen | elg: Pour a layer of concrete over the carpet. Easier to maintain. |
| 16:42.46 | sjansen | You could claim you were going for the "post-historic-industrial look" if anyone asks. |
| 16:43.06 | utahcon | lol |
| 16:43.17 | utahcon | concrete is more expensive than hardwood alternatives |
| 16:43.35 | utahcon | and the hardwood alts would look better |
| 16:49.07 | dmdavis | and if you just lay the hardwood on top of the carpet, that would make for a neat effect when walking on it |
| 16:50.31 | fozzmoo | Ooooh. bouncy. |
| 16:50.53 | dmdavis | would be great for wrassling |
| 16:51.08 | dmdavis | "If you're going to body-slam your brother, do it on the hardwood!" |
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| 17:10.27 | ^Migs^ | http://www.geekstuff4u.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=691 |
| 17:10.28 | brac | [GeekStuff4U.com - HDD Rack Super Combo with Quad-Interface] |
| 17:10.33 | ^Migs^ | this is pretty awesome |
| 17:11.23 | utahcon | is 1394b chainable? |
| 17:11.54 | ^Migs^ | uh, prolly not |
| 17:11.56 | ^Migs^ | heh: http://www.geekstuff4u.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=669 |
| 17:12.01 | brac | [GeekStuff4U.com - Chocolate Doughnut 1GB] |
| 17:12.19 | utahcon | then why would it have two 1394b slots? |
| 17:12.41 | ^Migs^ | I was making a wild guess |
| 17:14.13 | utahcon | it is :d |
| 17:14.17 | utahcon | up to 16 devices |
| 17:15.11 | utahcon | would think more than one of those on a desktop is a valid argument for a small NAS |
| 17:19.47 | utahcon | price tag sucks http://www.geekstuff4u.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=734 |
| 17:20.41 | brac | [GeekStuff4U.com - KARA-KUSA Keyboard] |
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| 17:49.16 | brac | get back from them....." |
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| 17:49.30 | findlay-w | ~onjoin findlay-w -lart mstar |
| 17:49.30 | ibot | ok, findlay-w |
| 17:49.45 | findlay-w | -lart mstar |
| 17:49.45 | brac | tells Dr. Dre that mstar was talking smack |
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| 18:24.12 | sjansen | ~mstar findlay-w |
| 18:38.09 | Heartsbane | sjansen: way to terminate his service |
| 18:38.22 | findlay-w | yeah, no kidding |
| 18:38.57 | Heartsbane | findlay-w: you can't talk you've been terminated |
| 18:39.23 | findlay-w | oh, sorry |
| 18:41.49 | Heartsbane | just another voice from the ether, snuffed out |
| 18:53.15 | ^Migs^ | http://thingsididlastnight.com/ |
| 18:53.16 | brac | [Things I Did Last Night] |
| 18:54.23 | findlay-w | ether is very combustible |
| 18:59.11 | sjansen | Hey?! When did metacity start requiring pressing tab _twice_ to switch windows? |
| 18:59.25 | sjansen | is gonna have to hurt someone |
| 18:59.51 | utahcon | wikis metacity |
| 18:59.53 | redbeard2 | sjansen: what distro? |
| 19:00.31 | utahcon | says: oh |
| 19:01.58 | sjansen | Ubuntu 804 |
| 19:02.34 | Zelut | sjansen: tell me how I can try to recreate that issue. |
| 19:02.41 | sjansen | It must have just changed 'cause I'm constantly typing atl-tab and its only today that it started acting stupid. |
| 19:03.20 | Zelut | ..I've got two apps open in a workspace and a single alt-tab toggles them as normal.. |
| 19:03.50 | sjansen | Steps to reproduce: Press alt-tab. Notice that it didn't switch windows. Get annoyed. |
| 19:04.47 | tensai | dpkg -P sjansen |
| 19:04.57 | sinuhe | sjansen: I pressed alt-tab, noticed that it switched Windows. Hmmm...I'm on Ubuntu 8.04. |
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| 19:05.59 | sinuhe | sjansen: Is it a focus problem, or a raising problem? |
| 19:06.05 | sjansen | What the? Suddenly its working properly again. |
| 19:06.15 | sinuhe | lol |
| 19:06.19 | utahcon | claims it is the work of gnomes |
| 19:06.26 | sinuhe | sjansen: The Ubuntu ghost is out to get you. |
| 19:06.34 | sinuhe | s/ghost/ghost-in-the-machine/ |
| 19:06.40 | sjansen | Maybe it's a keyboard problem. But how? You'd think I'd notice a stuck key. |
| 19:06.58 | findlay-w | sjansen: maybe this means its time to switch to enlightenment |
| 19:07.00 | utahcon | corrupt driver? |
| 19:07.07 | findlay-w | or KDE |
| 19:07.08 | findlay-w | hehe |
| 19:07.12 | sjansen | Maybe all I had to do was threaten it with gconf-editor. |
| 19:07.13 | utahcon | anyone running slackware 12.1? |
| 19:07.33 | sinuhe | e17 still has yet to come out. I remember running e16 like 10 years ago. Is my memory hazy, or has it actually been that long since the last stable release? |
| 19:07.54 | synic | There are people that still run Slackware? |
| 19:07.57 | sinuhe | (major release that is, I know e16 is being patched.) |
| 19:08.03 | sinuhe | synic: I have my slackware moments. |
| 19:09.32 | utahcon | runs kubuntu 7.10 @ work, and 8.04 at home |
| 19:09.41 | utahcon | thinking about xubuntu though :D |
| 19:09.55 | utahcon | has strayed from SuSE's firm grip |
| 19:10.05 | maquis | runs... lots of stuff |
| 19:10.36 | utahcon | the minute there is a viable Xbox + Linux connection, my Media Server will be Linux |
| 19:10.56 | utahcon | still then... watching movies from the Xbox is just too good to give up my doze |
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| 19:12.28 | utahcon | s/still/til/ |
| 19:12.51 | findlay-w | well, enlightenment is as close to awesome as a WM can get |
| 19:13.04 | findlay-w | blames Tene for thinking so |
| 19:13.32 | findlay-w | it's too bad they're taking their time getting a new stable version out |
| 19:14.12 | utahcon | findlay-w: isn't that the mentality that makes a project go stale, unsupported, and eventually lost? |
| 19:14.25 | findlay-w | utahcon: which? |
| 19:14.40 | utahcon | too bad they're taking their time getting a new stable version out |
| 19:14.48 | ^Migs^ | These are some awesome cakes: http://layersoflove.blogspot.com/ |
| 19:15.10 | findlay-w | enlightenment is anything but stale, daily commits by the devs are as likely as not to crash X for you ;) |
| 19:15.28 | findlay-w | utahcon: yeah, users should revolt |
| 19:15.29 | findlay-w | ! |
| 19:17.39 | utahcon | simple dumb question: Best way to see how much disk you are using is running 'du -sh |
| 19:17.43 | utahcon | ' from the / ? |
| 19:17.48 | elg | df -h |
| 19:17.51 | maquis | utahcon: try df |
| 19:18.01 | elg | lots faster |
| 19:18.24 | utahcon | hmmm |
| 19:18.25 | elg | like, finding your couch in the living room vs finding a needle in a haystack faster |
| 19:18.28 | utahcon | doesn't seem acurate |
| 19:18.43 | elg | why not? |
| 19:18.59 | ^Migs^ | maybe you partitioned it wrong |
| 19:19.14 | utahcon | I am running my VMware off a 2GB USB drive. |
| 19:19.22 | utahcon | df -h shows 7.6G |
| 19:19.37 | elg | how big was the virtual disk you made? |
| 19:19.44 | utahcon | 1.9GB |
| 19:20.02 | elg | remember it's a sort of sparse disk |
| 19:20.55 | utahcon | what do you mean elg? |
| 19:21.12 | elg | you can say "this is an 8 gig drive" and it only takes up 1 gig at first |
| 19:21.16 | elg | and grows as you fill it |
| 19:21.22 | elg | to vmware, it always looks like an 8 gig drive |
| 19:21.32 | elg | well, to the vmware hosted machine |
| 19:21.59 | utahcon | I set it up to take the space and only allocate 1.9GB (taken at time of creation) |
| 19:22.06 | utahcon | no doubt VM is probably the cause though |
| 19:22.21 | utahcon | hmmm |
| 19:22.32 | utahcon | wonder if I am running the wrong VM... |
| 19:23.24 | elg | oh noes, this is the nuclear war vm! shoot! |
| 19:23.32 | elg | ~boom |
| 19:23.33 | ibot | The World's First Linux-Only Modification For Quake 2. URL: http://fragland.net/boom/ |
| 19:23.43 | elg | ~nuke utahcon |
| 19:23.43 | ibot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at utahcon ... Bâ¢â¢M! |
| 19:24.20 | utahcon | I deserver that :D |
| 19:25.20 | utahcon | shakes head in disgust... so much work done on the wrong VM :( |
| 20:28.05 | elg | -chat |
| 20:28.10 | brac | 1066 is probably a waxy substance |
| 20:28.43 | findlay-w | interesting |
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| 20:58.26 | sjansen | Stuart's shell tip of the whenever: |
| 20:58.31 | sjansen | alias o="gnome-open" |
| 20:59.28 | sjansen | Works for files _and_ directories. |
| 21:02.15 | fozzmoo | A buddy of mine just sent this to me with the comment "Best. Headline. Evah." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7390109.stm |
| 21:02.20 | brac | [BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Great tits cope well with warming] |
| 21:02.41 | fozzmoo | brac: thanks |
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| 21:05.20 | utahcon | hmm |
| 21:05.47 | utahcon | configured apache with --enable-mods-shared='rewrite ...' |
| 21:05.54 | utahcon | phpinfo show mod_rewrite |
| 21:06.01 | utahcon | but .htaccess is not picking up |
| 21:09.05 | fozzmoo | utahcon: Do you have AllowOverride all in httpd.conf? |
| 21:09.26 | utahcon | doh |
| 21:09.28 | utahcon | prob not |
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| 21:10.20 | utahcon | thanks |
| 21:10.27 | fozzmoo | np |
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| 21:30.59 | ^Migs^ | I don't know if this is SFW or not: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7390109.stm |
| 21:31.07 | brac | [BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Great tits cope well with warming] |
| 21:31.26 | elg | it's safe, and old news |
| 21:31.33 | elg | "great tit" is a bird species |
| 21:32.04 | ^Migs^ | yeah, I know it's technically safe, but I don't know who might be watching someone else's screen |
| 21:32.22 | ^Migs^ | and how is it old? It was posted today. |
| 21:32.39 | elg | fozzmoo posted it a good 30 minutes ago |
| 21:32.53 | ^Migs^ | dangit |
| 21:32.57 | elg | well, the nsfw warning is generally so you can avoid clicking if necessary |
| 21:33.11 | elg | if you are posting what's not safe, it kind of defeats the purpose |
| 21:33.11 | ^Migs^ | ~lart fozzmoo |
| 21:33.11 | ibot | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, fozzmoo!" and lops off fozzmoo's head |
| 21:43.28 | utahcon | poor fozzmoo |
| 21:43.46 | fozzmoo | mumbles something unintelligible |
| 21:43.56 | elg | mumbles something unfozzooable |
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| 22:34.34 | sjansen | Given three variables x1, x2, & w where x1 = x2 - w is there an easy way to ensure x1 < x2 the sign of x1 is the same as the sign of x2? |
| 22:35.59 | dmdavis | in what context? why doesn't "if(x1 < x2)..." work? |
| 22:37.30 | sjansen | because if w < 0 then x1 > x2 and if w > x2 then the sign of x1 will be different from x2 |
| 22:38.04 | sjansen | Ah, I see I missed an important "and the sign" in my question. |
| 22:38.48 | sjansen | The way I see it, I'm going to have to write a function to check the sign of a variable. |
| 22:39.10 | sjansen | (x1 < x2) and (sign(x1) == sign(x2)) |
| 22:39.30 | dmdavis | yeah, that's what it seems like to me |
| 22:39.47 | Tene | sjansen: why are you trying to do this? |
| 22:39.56 | Tene | what's the significance of these vars? |
| 22:46.05 | sjansen | Given a valid combination of top, left, bottom, righ, height & width where sign change the meaning of a value determine the position of a box. |
| 22:51.21 | Tene | sjansen: so, like, negative is the top, positive is the bottom, or some such? |
| 22:52.05 | Tene | Where sign changes the meaning of the value from what to what? |
| 22:53.45 | sjansen | postive is a distance down from the top or right of left. negative is up from the bottom or left of right. |
| 22:55.21 | sjansen | <box top="0.5in" left="0.5in" bottom="-0.5in" right="-0.5in"/> |
| 22:55.49 | sjansen | <box top="0.5in" left="0.5in" width="5in" height="2in"/> |
| 22:56.35 | sjansen | <box bottom="-0.5in" left="-0.5in" width="7.5in" height=".5in"/> |
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| 23:18.45 | levi | Gah, this chip is so flaky. |
| 23:19.58 | lakshmi | so get a new one? |
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| 23:35.04 | levi | They're all flaky, as far as I can tell. |
| 23:36.04 | sjansen | levi: Send the hardware designers a mail bomb. |
| 23:36.19 | levi | sjansen: That would be counterproductive. |
| 23:36.30 | sjansen | But cathartic. |
| 23:37.10 | levi | Mailing things doesn't really give much catharsis. I'm thinking baseball bat to the dev boards. |
| 23:37.48 | levi | Anyway, I'm going home. |
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