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| 00:23.30 | ibot | pong |
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| 01:11.05 | lobo235 | my webhost has been down for 7 minutes |
| 01:11.17 | lobo235 | and they say they won't be up for another 15-20 minutes |
| 01:11.42 | lobo235 | they went completely off the radar |
| 01:11.49 | lobo235 | westhost.com |
| 01:12.02 | lobo235 | they are in providence, ut |
| 01:12.32 | lobo235 | and it looks like they're back |
| 01:12.35 | lobo235 | wahoo |
| 01:14.01 | lobo235 | guess it didn't take them as long as they thought it would to get back |
| 01:15.34 | lobo235 | does anyone know what the scrollkeeper-update process is in ubuntu? |
| 01:16.18 | Supaplex | I give up. what's it for? |
| 01:16.36 | lobo235 | wish i knew |
| 01:16.41 | Supaplex | does it keep a hex from going stale? |
| 01:17.02 | lobo235 | if that needs 100% cpu then it does |
| 01:17.02 | Supaplex | maybe there's one left over in the hex dump ;) |
| 01:18.02 | lobo235 | Supaplex, can you access google.com right now? it doesn't come up for me |
| 01:18.09 | lobo235 | but i can access all the other SEs |
| 01:18.53 | Supaplex | google works fine here |
| 01:19.24 | lobo235 | i can access other google services such as gmail and maps but not the main search |
| 01:19.26 | lobo235 | strange |
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| 01:23.55 | levi | lobo235: I believe scrollkeeper is some sort of an indexing service. |
| 01:24.30 | lobo235 | levi, that woulyd make sense. After a couple minutes it just went awa |
| 01:24.54 | lobo235 | ubuntuforums.org is down for maintenance right now |
| 01:27.30 | elg | heh |
| 01:27.45 | elg | so I search for how to make a growbox (raised bed) and I get tons of marijuana growing sites |
| 01:28.01 | Supaplex | pot head! |
| 01:30.42 | elg | searches on the more gardener-jargon term raised bed |
| 01:31.15 | levi | elg: I'm planning on making a raised garden in my backyard. I've got a bunch of sod cleared off already. |
| 01:31.48 | levi | Well, not exactly cleared off. More like I used the sod cutter to turn it into rolls of dead sod that are sitting, rolled-up, in the would-be garden bed. |
| 01:32.33 | elg | http://www.sunset.com/sunset/garden/article/0,20633,1152183,00.html this looks ok, but way too expensive |
| 01:32.37 | brac | [The perfect raised bed] |
| 01:32.47 | elg | I wonder if pine lumber would last a year |
| 01:32.54 | elg | and if I could forgo the staining |
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| 01:42.45 | lakshmi | hey |
| 01:42.46 | lakshmi | ya'll |
| 02:16.45 | Supaplex | *burp* |
| 02:30.34 | lakshmi | sup? |
| 02:35.21 | Supaplex | 5th of may |
| 02:55.33 | findlay | ~x en es Supaplex |
| 02:56.43 | lakshmi | huh? |
| 02:58.16 | findlay | ~x en es lakshmi |
| 02:59.26 | lakshmi | findlay whts up? |
| 02:59.37 | findlay | nothing |
| 02:59.55 | findlay | I climbed a brick wall for the first time today |
| 03:00.04 | findlay | it was fun |
| 03:02.38 | lakshmi | spiderman |
| 03:03.57 | findlay | man, I'm tired |
| 03:21.33 | elg | gah. sox has such a stupid syntax |
| 03:21.47 | Supaplex | are there other socket types I can place an optron socket 940 into? |
| 03:22.11 | Supaplex | I apparently won 5 optron 2ghz processors for $35 :) |
| 03:22.30 | fozzmoo | nope. Just the 940. |
| 03:22.32 | fozzmoo | What model is it? |
| 03:22.45 | Supaplex | ebay 120257019901 |
| 03:23.21 | fozzmoo | I've got 2 242s in my server right now (1.6Ghz) |
| 03:25.14 | fozzmoo | Ahhh. These are 246s. |
| 03:25.27 | fozzmoo | Supaplex: If you want to lose a couple of em, you let me know. :) |
| 03:25.34 | Supaplex | :P |
| 03:25.44 | fozzmoo | I'll pay you nicely for them. |
| 03:25.57 | Supaplex | how many you need/want? |
| 03:26.01 | fozzmoo | just 23 |
| 03:26.03 | fozzmoo | hee hee |
| 03:26.04 | fozzmoo | 2 |
| 03:26.13 | fozzmoo | 23 would be funny. |
| 03:26.24 | Supaplex | ^.^ |
| 03:26.27 | fozzmoo | "Yeah. I'm replacing my furnace with a rack of Opterons!" |
| 03:26.58 | eltiare | You can get a few Macbook Pros, I'm sure they would do just as good of a job at heating the place up. |
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| 03:28.01 | fozzmoo | L2 Cache 1MB. gotta love that. |
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| 04:09.52 | findlay | don't the itaniums have lots of l2 cache? |
| 04:46.44 | findlay | ~random |
| 04:54.22 | tyler | Anyone here play cod4 |
| 04:54.34 | bonez45 | it's new to me |
| 04:54.54 | tyler | Meaning? |
| 04:55.06 | bonez45 | never have played it |
| 04:55.13 | tyler | Got a PS3? |
| 04:55.42 | bonez45 | no, son has a psp...and ps2 |
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| 04:56.00 | tyler | bonez45: Well if and when you ever pick one up, please do yourself a favor and purchase it |
| 04:56.08 | tyler | Best shooter to date, IMHO |
| 04:56.41 | bonez45 | purchase ps3? |
| 04:56.46 | bonez45 | cod4 |
| 04:56.57 | bonez45 | is that cod like the fish, or code like a game? |
| 04:57.14 | tyler | CoD would be Call of Duty (fourth installment) |
| 04:57.17 | tyler | And I meant purchase the game |
| 04:57.30 | bonez45 | oh... |
| 04:57.31 | tyler | It's just amazing what modern video games are able to produce |
| 04:57.33 | bonez45 | ok |
| 04:57.53 | tyler | The PSP is sick as well |
| 04:58.29 | bonez45 | sick, meaning really good? |
| 05:00.06 | tyler | Definitely |
| 05:01.24 | bonez45 | ah... |
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| 05:04.56 | findlay | catching up on the terms :) |
| 05:05.00 | findlay | ? |
| 05:19.00 | findlay | man, I wish there was a portage frontend to ctan like there is for cpan |
| 05:19.07 | findlay | Sargun: want to write it for me? |
| 05:19.08 | findlay | :) |
| 05:20.44 | Sargun | kills findlay |
| 05:20.58 | Sargun | http://album.xbmodder.us/ohlone/chipmunk/ |
| 05:20.59 | brac | [Album: chipmunk] |
| 05:21.10 | Sargun | how are the load times? |
| 05:21.47 | findlay | fast, but I have a fast connection :) |
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| 07:38.24 | lakshmi | hey |
| 07:38.31 | lakshmi | ~smash comcast |
| 07:38.32 | ibot | ACTION flings an anvil in comcast's general direction |
| 07:38.41 | lakshmi | thank you ibot |
| 07:38.48 | lakshmi | ibot, thank you |
| 07:38.48 | ibot | no problem, lakshmi |
| 08:13.21 | lakshmi | gives ibot a treat |
| 08:13.25 | lakshmi | ibot, good job |
| 08:13.25 | ibot | Good job, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry! |
| 08:13.44 | lakshmi | ibot, good job ibot |
| 08:13.45 | ibot | Good job ibot, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry! |
| 08:13.56 | lakshmi | ibot, sad |
| 08:13.57 | ibot | ACTION looks at lakshmi 'I wonder why lakshmi looks so sad' |
| 08:14.04 | lakshmi | ibot, sad ibot |
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| 12:27.21 | Sargun | uh |
| 12:27.24 | Sargun | Morning all. |
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| 15:02.22 | lobo235 | I just figured out that by using ssh with the '-D' option you can create an encrypted SOCKS proxy |
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| 15:31.04 | harleypig | wiggly wobblies |
| 15:31.26 | ^Migs^ | http://improbable.com/ |
| 15:37.13 | Jayce^ | harleypig: better get a stronger chair |
| 15:37.31 | lobo235 | http://www.truckspills.com/ |
| 15:37.32 | brac | [Truck Spills] |
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| 15:41.53 | harleypig | heh |
| 15:45.03 | harleypig | heh |
| 15:45.27 | utahcon | mmm beer |
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| 16:06.11 | levi | Good morning. |
| 16:08.53 | lobo235 | good morning |
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| 16:14.51 | elg | poor poor students |
| 16:14.55 | elg | I tortured them good |
| 16:17.00 | utahcon | elg, how did you torture these so called students? |
| 16:17.26 | elg | my final was apparently beyond their comprehension |
| 16:17.39 | utahcon | Where do you teach? |
| 16:17.39 | lobo235 | what subject? |
| 16:19.01 | elg | nmsu |
| 16:19.04 | elg | c programming for nonmajors |
| 16:19.34 | lobo235 | i just took a c programming class at UVU |
| 16:19.45 | lobo235 | I got a c ironically |
| 16:19.46 | utahcon | New Mexico? |
| 16:19.51 | elg | the average score on the final was 62 |
| 16:20.03 | utahcon | a C in C is 100% |
| 16:20.18 | hatchmt | lobo235, do you like the CS program at UVU? |
| 16:21.17 | elg | but the average final grade is 87% so I'm not concerned |
| 16:21.22 | lobo235 | i like it alright, I don't have anything to compare to really but it seems like all the teachers use Roger Debry's material and slides and they seem mediocre at best |
| 16:21.23 | elg | but it must be stressful to take a test from me |
| 16:21.38 | lobo235 | elg, I would be stressed out |
| 16:22.15 | elg | glad to hear it |
| 16:23.29 | utahcon | elg... is your test multi choice or theory/written or practical? |
| 16:23.31 | utahcon | applied? |
| 16:23.48 | elg | not much multichoice |
| 16:24.10 | elg | mostly short answer, write short snippets, and "find the bug" sorts of questions |
| 16:24.34 | lobo235 | elg, that's how most of my finals have been |
| 16:24.47 | utahcon | Would you consider it a tough test elg? |
| 16:25.15 | elg | i tried to make it untough if they knew the material |
| 16:25.26 | lobo235 | brb hopefully |
| 16:25.29 | elg | and one or two exceptional students did, and they did nearly perfect |
| 16:25.40 | utahcon | i see |
| 16:25.40 | utahcon | ok |
| 16:25.59 | elg | frankly, I think it a successful test. it was differentiating, gives me an excellent picture of what they did and didn't learn |
| 16:26.03 | elg | but psychologically... |
| 16:27.31 | utahcon | hates the smell of burnt popcorn, and I am bombarded by it everyday at the same times. |
| 16:27.49 | elg | why do they burn it? |
| 16:27.59 | utahcon | No clue. |
| 16:28.08 | utahcon | But three times a day, no fail, he burns it. |
| 16:28.11 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:28.11 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:28.39 | utahcon | a 29@ |
| 16:28.42 | utahcon | 29! |
| 16:28.49 | elg | well that was definitely an outlier |
| 16:28.55 | utahcon | did they even sign their name? |
| 16:29.01 | elg | he got behind in the class and just showed up and took a blind stab |
| 16:29.08 | elg | didn't answer a lot of questions |
| 16:29.09 | utahcon | admirable |
| 16:29.28 | elg | pity too, he was the second best student in the beginning |
| 16:29.34 | utahcon | that sucks |
| 16:29.38 | utahcon | maybe next go around |
| 16:29.45 | elg | he really has the chops |
| 16:29.51 | elg | funny how you can tell |
| 16:29.56 | elg | and how varied the people who have it are |
| 16:30.16 | utahcon | we have been interviewing for a position here |
| 16:30.50 | utahcon | and it is amazing the spread of people and skill levels and how quickly you pick up on who knows what they are talking about and who is talking from what they have read (if that makes sense) |
| 16:33.53 | levi | http://gpl.internetconnection.net/vi/? |
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| 16:57.03 | sjansen | sjansen's shell of the whenever: In bash, <esc> <.> will bring back the last argument of your previous command. To go back further, repeat the key sequence. |
| 16:57.35 | sjansen | Alternatively, <alt>-<.> does the same with the minor difference that one must not let go of the <alt> key. |
| 16:57.48 | sjansen | s/shell of/shell tip of/ |
| 16:58.21 | levi | That's not surprising, because <esc> followed by a key is an alternative form for M-<key> in emacs. |
| 16:58.54 | levi | And the default bash keybindings follow emacs. |
| 16:58.59 | sjansen | For a long time I thought "what a useless fact". Then one day a co-worker made fun of me for doing things the hard way. Now I'm constantly finding ways to avoid typing by using <esc> <.> |
| 16:59.35 | levi | Yeah, it's a really useful thing to do, and I often wish I could remember the key combo to do it. :) |
| 17:01.04 | hatchmt | I use <ctrl>-<r> a lot in bash to get to my previous command/arguments, but I hadn't used the <esc/alt>-<.> combo before. This is nifty... |
| 17:01.45 | Tene | I never used alt+. until I spent a couple of days trying to use it whenever possible. |
| 17:01.54 | Tene | Now I use it several times a day. |
| 17:02.42 | utahcon | How would you use that? |
| 17:02.55 | utahcon | why would you use that instead of repeating the full command? |
| 17:03.05 | utahcon | (up arrow?) |
| 17:03.10 | sjansen | mount /dev/foo /mnt/bar |
| 17:03.15 | sjansen | cd <esc> <.> |
| 17:03.20 | utahcon | oh |
| 17:03.28 | utahcon | got it |
| 17:03.29 | utahcon | thanks |
| 17:04.39 | sjansen | I actually use it most often with files. |
| 17:04.42 | sjansen | vi bar.c |
| 17:04.47 | sjansen | git add <esc> <.> |
| 17:05.02 | Tene | sjansen: why esc,. instead of alt+.? |
| 17:05.23 | levi | Tene: He's trained himself to hit esc all the time from vim usage. |
| 17:05.25 | sjansen | 'Cause it feels more natural to me as a vi user. |
| 17:05.38 | utahcon | that makes sense |
| 17:05.41 | levi | I never hit esc when I used vim all the time. |
| 17:05.43 | fungus | wow, that is really cool. I've been using !$ all this time |
| 17:05.50 | findlay | do any of you guys know what 3Com Net Management is? |
| 17:06.35 | levi | I hate hitting esc. It's in a very inconvenient spot. |
| 17:06.39 | utahcon | if it is from 3Com, it is Complicated, Comprimised, Completely Expensive |
| 17:06.53 | utahcon | couldn't think of a Com word for expensive :( |
| 17:06.57 | findlay | it's the name of a port in /etc/services |
| 17:07.22 | elg | for the peanut gallery, here's my exam key and stats: http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~hfugal/spring08/cs167/exam3-key.pdf |
| 17:07.42 | utahcon | I was going to ask :d |
| 17:08.15 | findlay | what's the command that tells you login history? |
| 17:08.25 | findlay | sjansen, atoponce? |
| 17:08.27 | elg | history |
| 17:08.32 | elg | oh, you mean last |
| 17:08.43 | utahcon | was #2 under 4 by design? |
| 17:08.52 | elg | no |
| 17:09.18 | elg | i was rearranging problems for optimal space usage and missed one on the renumbering |
| 17:09.24 | utahcon | oh |
| 17:10.29 | Sargun | uh |
| 17:11.50 | Tene | findlay: last, lastb |
| 17:12.01 | elg | sjansen: that is a useful thing, and the reason I'm usually lost when I don't have vi mode |
| 17:12.08 | elg | i'll try to remember alt-. for those situations |
| 17:14.23 | sjansen | doesn't like the last command because he doesn't trust wtmp |
| 17:16.13 | levi | elg: Looks like a good test, though I imagine it was indeed pretty tough for your students. |
| 17:16.52 | elg | i think some of them cut their losses when studying for it too |
| 17:16.56 | utahcon | I would have screwed up the memory problems |
| 17:17.17 | elg | since the exam wasn't a huge chunk of the grade |
| 17:17.33 | levi | If you would have screwed up the memory problems, you need to learn C. :) |
| 17:17.53 | utahcon | lol |
| 17:17.58 | utahcon | just been too long since I have cared. |
| 17:18.19 | utahcon | add too long since i have had to do it with out assistance :D |
| 17:18.25 | sjansen | What a shame. |
| 17:18.28 | utahcon | I know |
| 17:18.30 | levi | Indeed. |
| 17:18.42 | findlay | thanks levi, elg |
| 17:18.49 | findlay | s/levi/Tene/ |
| 17:19.36 | goozbach | shell tip from goozbach: <ctrl>-p |
| 17:19.47 | goozbach | and <ctrl>-n |
| 17:20.00 | levi | C-r FTW |
| 17:20.06 | goozbach | the only thing I use more than <esc>-. |
| 17:20.12 | findlay | <up> ye haw! |
| 17:20.20 | goozbach | and it even works in irssi! |
| 17:20.28 | goozbach | (just not the way you expect) |
| 17:20.53 | sjansen | Phhht. Boring. Everyone (should) knows C-r. |
| 17:21.04 | levi | That's because real programs use emacs keybindings. If you guys weren't so anti-emacs, you'd have a much happier time in Unix. ;) |
| 17:21.13 | findlay | haha |
| 17:21.28 | levi | I'm not saying you have to edit stuff with it instead of vim, just know your way around it. |
| 17:21.32 | goozbach | <ctrl>-u is usefull as well |
| 17:21.40 | goozbach | oh yeah, and <ctrl>-l |
| 17:21.51 | sjansen | loves him some C-u |
| 17:21.52 | levi | C-a and C-e are great, too. |
| 17:22.23 | goozbach | <ctrl>-k |
| 17:23.02 | goozbach | ctrl-y |
| 17:23.19 | findlay | sjansen: if not wtmp, then what? |
| 17:23.29 | levi | These are pretty much all standard emacs keybindings. |
| 17:23.39 | goozbach | levi: yup |
| 17:24.04 | goozbach | I think after this project finishes up I'll force myself to use set -o vi |
| 17:24.16 | levi | Heh, you vim guys are silly. |
| 17:25.00 | goozbach | set -o vi for at least a month |
| 17:25.12 | goozbach | levi: I'm allergic to parens |
| 17:25.23 | goozbach | jjjjjjjkkkkkkk |
| 17:25.27 | sjansen | goozbach: Don't do it. It isn't worth it. Bash's vi keybindings suck. (At least compared to ksh.) |
| 17:25.46 | levi | goozbach: What do emacs keybindings have to do with parens? |
| 17:26.05 | sjansen | levi: Extreme allergic reaction. |
| 17:26.29 | sjansen | So extreme that anything lisp-related twice-removed can trigger a reaction. |
| 17:28.41 | goozbach | kinda like severe peanut allergies |
| 17:29.15 | goozbach | you touch a peanut, then touch something, then the allergic person touches the same thing.. |
| 17:31.13 | levi | Silly goozbach. |
| 17:31.20 | findlay | silly peanuts. Why do they have to be so allergic? It's rather inconvenient |
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| 17:55.17 | elg | bash's vi keybindings are nowhere near as cool as vim itself, but I find it sufficient |
| 17:55.32 | elg | if i learned emacs keybindings, that might work too |
| 18:04.18 | ^Migs^ | good grief, I hate regex |
| 18:04.38 | ^Migs^ | I need a project where I'm CONSTANTLY using regex, so whenever I learn it, it actually sticks with me |
| 18:05.12 | findlay | ~stick ^Migs^ |
| 18:05.20 | ^Migs^ | ~migs findlay |
| 18:05.20 | ibot | ACTION forces findlay to learn perl from ^Migs^ |
| 18:48.35 | sjansen | ~git++ |
| 18:48.38 | sjansen | ~tla-- |
| 18:48.48 | *** join/#utah gshipley (n=gshipley@nat/redhat/x-96b797364629a57f) |
| 18:49.51 | sjansen | ~taunt gshipley |
| 18:49.52 | ibot | ACTION taunts gshipley a second time |
| 18:50.32 | goozbach | ~bzr++ |
| 18:53.07 | sjansen | ~baz-- |
| 18:55.30 | findlay | ~CVS-- |
| 18:56.18 | lobo235 | what are those things you guys are typing? |
| 18:56.50 | findlay | RCS |
| 18:57.04 | findlay | ~dict rcs |
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| 19:00.46 | *** join/#utah gshipley (n=gshipley@nat/redhat/x-44468a05b5de0e1f) |
| 19:00.49 | eggyknap | What does it mean that "Revision Control System" is in braces? |
| 19:01.15 | findlay | don't know |
| 19:01.22 | findlay | actually |
| 19:01.30 | eggyknap | :) |
| 19:01.32 | findlay | it means that ibot knew that that is what I meant |
| 19:02.42 | sjansen | ~karma git |
| 19:02.42 | ibot | git has karma of 2 |
| 19:02.51 | findlay | ~karma cvs |
| 19:02.51 | ibot | cvs has karma of -1 |
| 19:02.51 | sjansen | ~karma bzr |
| 19:02.51 | ibot | bzr has karma of 1 |
| 19:03.05 | sjansen | Prove that git > bzr. ;-) |
| 19:03.30 | lobo235 | what is git? what is bzr? |
| 19:03.35 | findlay | ~git |
| 19:03.40 | findlay | ~bzr |
| 19:03.46 | findlay | whatever |
| 19:03.51 | findlay | -google git |
| 19:03.52 | brac | git: http://git.or.cz/ |
| 19:03.55 | findlay | -google bzr |
| 19:03.55 | brac | bzr: http://bazaar-vcs.org/ |
| 19:04.04 | findlay | -excuse |
| 19:04.04 | brac | Firmware update in the coffee machine |
| 19:04.17 | sjansen | ibot: git is the revision control system used for Linux kernel development. |
| 19:04.17 | ibot | ACTION declares is the revision control system used for Linux kernel development. a total smeghead |
| 19:04.32 | findlay | ~literal cmd: git (.?*) |
| 19:04.37 | findlay | ~literal cmd: git (.*?) |
| 19:04.38 | ibot | "cmd: git (.*?)" is "($1): <action> declares $1 a total smeghead" |
| 19:04.57 | sjansen | ibot: git is also better than sliced bread and as awesome as ssh |
| 19:04.57 | ibot | ACTION declares is also better than sliced bread and as awesome as ssh a total smeghead |
| 19:05.10 | sjansen | stupid bot |
| 19:05.30 | findlay | ~literal git |
| 19:05.30 | fungus | ~git ibot |
| 19:05.31 | ibot | ACTION declares ibot a total smeghead |
| 19:05.40 | findlay | ~literal factoid: git |
| 19:05.56 | findlay | ~literal _default git |
| 19:06.00 | sjansen | vim, ssh, git <-- Best. Commands. Ever. |
| 19:06.57 | fungus | ~sudo++ |
| 19:07.47 | lobo235 | is darcs any good? anyone ever used it? http://darcs.net/ |
| 19:10.22 | sjansen | elg is a darcs user |
| 19:22.23 | elg | hg more than darcs lately |
| 19:22.30 | elg | but yes, it's god |
| 19:22.32 | elg | good |
| 19:25.25 | goozbach | darcs is god? |
| 19:25.31 | goozbach | blastpheme much? |
| 19:25.41 | lobo235 | I am looking for a versioning system for personal use that will manage my many projects well and that I can setup on my home server and access from anywhere. It should be very low maintenance and have clients for windows and linux. It should support binary files too. |
| 19:25.56 | goozbach | There is only one true versioning system, and Tom Lord is it's architech. |
| 19:26.05 | goozbach | lobo235: bzr |
| 19:26.13 | gshipley | lobo235: I would look at svn or git |
| 19:26.27 | gshipley | lobo235: although I don't know if git has a thick client for window |
| 19:29.47 | sjansen | svn > cvs # but that ain't saying much |
| 19:30.09 | sjansen | svn < git |
| 19:30.13 | sjansen | svn < bzr |
| 19:31.05 | sjansen | And don't anyone bring up svk 'cause if you think it's acceptable you haven't used a real drcs. |
| 19:31.49 | sjansen | bzr is probably going to be more pleasant on Windows. |
| 19:33.50 | goozbach | bzr IS more pleasant on windows |
| 19:34.16 | goozbach | combine it with Cream or Vim for windows and you ALMOST have a tolerable development enviroment. |
| 19:34.27 | dmdavis | how does git compare with hg? |
| 19:37.06 | Tene | sjansen: have you tried the windows git stuff lately? |
| 19:37.25 | sjansen | Tene: Are you accusing me of using Windows? |
| 19:37.34 | Tene | sjansen: I'm saying that you should so I don't have to. |
| 19:39.31 | ^Migs^ | http://bash.org/?860816 |
| 19:39.34 | brac | [QDB: Quote #860816] |
| 19:45.36 | lobo235 | My dad just got a virus that wiped out his windoze cuz he was looking for a keygen and wasn't careful |
| 19:46.05 | lobo235 | I have been telling him to use linux for a while now... to bad he didn't |
| 19:48.39 | elg | dmdavis: they compare on various axes |
| 19:49.17 | dmdavis | lemme rephrase: for those of you with strong opinions, which would you prefer? |
| 19:50.21 | sjansen | dmdavis: Elijah Newren's blog has some intersting information comparing various revision control systems. http://blogs.gnome.org/newren/ |
| 19:50.35 | dmdavis | sjansen: thanks |
| 19:52.11 | lobo235 | checks out Elijah's blog |
| 20:03.49 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: In your new digs yet? |
| 20:12.11 | maquis | yawns |
| 20:12.23 | sjansen | ~wake maquis |
| 20:12.24 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on maquis and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 20:12.44 | maquis | walks over and gives sjansen a big bear-hug |
| 20:13.26 | maquis | backs off and looks to make sure that sjansen is sufficiently wet |
| 20:13.28 | sjansen | blushes and mumbles something about pancakes |
| 20:13.48 | maquis | pancakes? |
| 20:13.49 | maquis | where? |
| 20:13.57 | maquis | are they chocolate chip pancakes? |
| 20:14.15 | maquis | ooh! chocolate-chip mickey-mouse pancakes!!! |
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| 20:17.01 | levi | Mmm, pancakes. |
| 20:18.52 | sontek | ~mickeymouse sjansen |
| 20:19.41 | sjansen | sontek: What's up with meeting at an Applebee's? |
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| 20:21.32 | sontek | sjansen: I don't know draper well enough, so I googled restaurants :P |
| 20:22.17 | levi | Who's meeting at Applebee's? |
| 20:23.53 | sontek | openSUSE users |
| 20:24.01 | sontek | sjansen: do you have a better suggestion? |
| 20:24.11 | sontek | sjansen: we just wanted to meet in the middle of salt lake and utah counties |
| 20:44.34 | keldwud | applebees? darn |
| 20:44.43 | keldwud | I'd be there sontek, you know that :) |
| 20:44.58 | keldwud | I'm in ontario california right now though |
| 20:48.26 | keldwud | well I hope you all have fun at the meet |
| 20:50.37 | keldwud | or meets |
| 20:50.43 | keldwud | there are several going on this week |
| 20:53.14 | maquis | tries to decipher keldwud's nick |
| 20:54.19 | sjansen | sontek: Seems like most anything would be better than Applebee's. |
| 21:01.37 | keldwud | maquis check here - http://blog.keldwud.org/what-does-keldwud-mean/ |
| 21:02.02 | maquis | ok. i will check there... |
| 21:02.03 | maquis | thx |
| 21:02.36 | keldwud | it's a compound word that I created to use as a unique identifier without resorting to 5 or more syllables or a misspelled word. |
| 21:02.56 | keldwud | they are tough to come by these days on the 'nets |
| 21:03.13 | keldwud | all this talk of lunch is making me hungry |
| 21:03.15 | maquis | heh |
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| 21:11.47 | lobo235 | it appears that ubuntu ships with a gutted down version of vim that doesn't even support syntax highlighting. is there an easy way to apt-get a version of vim with all the good stuff enabled? |
| 21:14.30 | lobo235 | also, is it just me or have the ubuntu package repositories gotten much slower since hoary was released? |
| 21:14.55 | findlay | lobo235: one of my major dislikes of ubuntu ;) |
| 21:15.13 | findlay | and even when you install vim-full it has set nocompatible on or something like that |
| 21:15.18 | lobo235 | findlay, that it comes with crippled vim? |
| 21:15.24 | findlay | s/something/something stupid/ |
| 21:15.28 | findlay | lobo235: yes |
| 21:16.02 | lobo235 | what is the nocompatible on session? |
| 21:16.14 | lobo235 | s/session/setting/ |
| 21:16.28 | findlay | I meant compatible |
| 21:16.40 | findlay | it meas prehistoric VI compatible |
| 21:16.54 | findlay | I don't know why they even bother with it anymore |
| 21:17.06 | lobo235 | for dinosaurs who are only used to vi or something? |
| 21:17.23 | findlay | or ubuntu users, evidently :) |
| 21:17.29 | lobo235 | hehe |
| 21:18.01 | lobo235 | findlay, do you use ubuntu? |
| 21:18.31 | findlay | sometimes |
| 21:18.50 | sjansen | T CallCC<T>(Func<Func<T,T>, T> f) |
| 21:18.50 | sjansen | CallCC: ((T -> T) -> T) -> T |
| 21:18.50 | sjansen | Silly me, I never made the connection until now that both of the above are the same. Yet another example of Java taking a good idea and making it more painful. |
| 21:19.26 | lobo235 | sjansen, what is that? |
| 21:19.37 | lobo235 | is it code? |
| 21:19.42 | lobo235 | for something? |
| 21:19.49 | levi | I think he's comparing type signatures? |
| 21:20.04 | levi | Type signature syntax, anyway. |
| 21:20.35 | sjansen | levi: Exactly. |
| 21:20.45 | levi | And you can blame that on C, not Java. |
| 21:20.59 | findlay | heh |
| 21:21.22 | lobo235 | is getting vim-full |
| 21:21.23 | levi | The 'declaration matches usage' policy was a bad idea once types got a little bit beyond trivial. |
| 21:23.42 | dataw0lf | git add . |
| 21:24.06 | findlay | git add dataw0lf |
| 21:24.25 | keldwud | hey, datawolf lives |
| 21:24.46 | keldwud | accosts datawolf with a blow up doll |
| 21:24.55 | dataw0lf | ack |
| 21:24.58 | harleypig | Get a realdoll! |
| 21:24.59 | keldwud | haha |
| 21:25.14 | keldwud | I dream of owning a realdoll one day! |
| 21:25.19 | keldwud | those things are awesome |
| 21:25.24 | dataw0lf | afternoon gentlemen |
| 21:25.26 | tensai | tmi |
| 21:25.28 | keldwud | and then I want to program a computer to talk for her. |
| 21:25.29 | levi | sjansen: And they're not precisely the same. The latter implies a curried function, while the former doesn't. |
| 21:25.41 | sjansen | levi: I realize that. |
| 21:25.42 | maquis | doesn't want to know |
| 21:25.45 | dataw0lf | keldwud = ? |
| 21:26.07 | keldwud | cherry 2000 here I come! ) |
| 21:26.08 | findlay | keldwud: that gives me an idea. Grudgingly I'll do it, but I don't know if I'll have any other options at this point given the passive nature of my creativity and the oversaturation of nicks on the intarwebs |
| 21:26.11 | sjansen | maquis: Why not? Currying is great for food and programming languages. |
| 21:26.27 | maquis | sjansen: that's not what i was referring to |
| 21:26.40 | keldwud | dataw0lf: you know me. |
| 21:26.43 | maquis | i was referring to a different conversation that was occurring |
| 21:26.47 | levi | sjansen: You can use tuples instead of single arguments to capture the non-curried nature of the Java declaration. |
| 21:26.49 | keldwud | dataw0lf: I think you call me sweatpants |
| 21:27.09 | dataw0lf | Ah! sweatpants. |
| 21:27.13 | dataw0lf | Indeed I do. |
| 21:27.15 | keldwud | yeah. |
| 21:27.18 | keldwud | laughs |
| 21:27.32 | keldwud | call me whatever you feel you need to ;) no skin off of my back |
| 21:27.51 | keldwud | so are there any #utah people in California? |
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| 21:28.07 | findlay | but can I really appreciate a nick chosen in truly random fashion? |
| 21:28.09 | levi | keldwud: Sargun is in California. |
| 21:28.25 | keldwud | findlay - tell me more about the idea that you had. I'm not quite catching it all |
| 21:28.40 | keldwud | findlay: the way I chose my identifier? |
| 21:28.59 | keldwud | levi: well shoot, lets get a hold of him. I'm touring on my motorcycle |
| 21:29.05 | findlay | keldwud: head -n 1 /dev/urandom | strings > my_nick |
| 21:29.08 | findlay | :) |
| 21:29.28 | keldwud | I am un upland now, am going to LA next and the bay area afterwards |
| 21:29.39 | levi | keldwud: Feel free to get ahold of him if you'd like. I don't remember exactly where he is. |
| 21:29.41 | keldwud | haha findlay |
| 21:29.51 | lakshmi | hey |
| 21:30.03 | keldwud | does he respond to email? |
| 21:30.27 | levi | Beats me. My only contact with him is here. |
| 21:30.42 | keldwud | anybody else talk with him outside of irc? |
| 21:30.55 | findlay | ~pong Sargun |
| 21:30.56 | ibot | Sargun: PONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 21:31.00 | keldwud | haha |
| 21:31.04 | keldwud | ding dong |
| 21:31.06 | sjansen | Outside of IRC? I don't understand. |
| 21:31.19 | keldwud | it's RL I think |
| 21:31.29 | keldwud | at least that's what they call it |
| 21:31.35 | findlay | hurry, somebody distract sjansen before he segfaults thinking outside of IRC |
| 21:31.56 | sjansen | Isn' t that kinda like Second Life but higher resolution and without the furries? |
| 21:32.11 | keldwud | I think so sjansen |
| 21:32.22 | keldwud | but I heard there are still furries |
| 21:32.29 | findlay | and my new nick is ... |
| 21:32.32 | findlay | 8^!{u |
| 21:32.37 | findlay | hmm |
| 21:32.45 | keldwud | I don't think that works findlay |
| 21:32.47 | maquis | wait... there's a real world? |
| 21:32.58 | keldwud | yeah, I watched an episode of it once from torrent |
| 21:32.59 | harleypig | maquis: Don't believe it! |
| 21:33.01 | harleypig | It's a trick! |
| 21:33.03 | dmdavis | findlay: you forgot to pipe through strings |
| 21:33.08 | findlay | dmdavis: I did |
| 21:33.10 | maquis | is that what that big room with the ceilings that are sometimes blue, but usually either grey or black is? |
| 21:33.12 | keldwud | it has a watermark in the bottom right MTV or somthing |
| 21:33.23 | maquis | it really needs some better temperature control in there |
| 21:33.34 | harleypig | and humidity control too |
| 21:33.34 | maquis | yesterday, it was kinda hot, but today, it's freezing in there |
| 21:33.41 | maquis | harleypig: no kidding |
| 21:33.44 | keldwud | yeah, it's that place full of variables that we cannot modify and integers that we can not retrieve the data on |
| 21:33.55 | findlay | ooC4AExzwc |
| 21:34.00 | keldwud | almost findlay |
| 21:34.10 | maquis | kjafd;ajfa |
| 21:34.25 | keldwud | I like that last part maquis. AJfA |
| 21:34.27 | findlay | maquis: you fail Kolmogorov |
| 21:35.04 | keldwud | oh and there's no man page for it as far as I can tell. |
| 21:35.26 | keldwud | I hear some people can get a fortune cookie type man page if they #pray enough |
| 21:36.02 | keldwud | but IRL I also hear that they don't all have familiars like cats, dogs, or ponies |
| 21:36.25 | keldwud | and almost none of them have heard of the amulet. |
| 21:36.33 | findlay | keldwud: at one time I experimented with LOTR names, but all the good ones are taken, obviously |
| 21:36.54 | keldwud | findlay - I managed to find a word list with words that are not in common dictionaries. |
| 21:37.11 | keldwud | findlay: I picked two that fit my personality and voila. |
| 21:37.11 | dmdavis | findlay: there are plenty of good not-so-good ones :) |
| 21:37.31 | findlay | 1670769 1670790 16853988 /usr/share/dict/cracklib-words |
| 21:37.34 | keldwud | findlay: if you are looking for a unique ID I would be happy to help you find one. |
| 21:37.53 | keldwud | I don't think you can automate a new nick unless you use very intelligent AI |
| 21:38.15 | keldwud | it would take a human to create something useable and marketable. |
| 21:38.35 | findlay | so maybe I'll have to offload it to my biological processing unit? |
| 21:38.50 | keldwud | probably findlay. depends on how old it is |
| 21:38.51 | keldwud | ;) |
| 21:38.54 | findlay | hm |
| 21:39.43 | maquis | i dunno... pwgen does some pretty cool random combinations of letters |
| 21:39.48 | keldwud | findlay - try this list here http://www.wunderland.com/WTS/Alison/lexophilia/coolwords/index.html |
| 21:39.54 | brac | [Untitled Page] |
| 21:40.03 | maquis | -lart findlay |
| 21:40.03 | brac | submits findlay's photo to the people at SA for photoshopping |
| 21:40.34 | keldwud | http://xkcd.com/331/ |
| 21:40.35 | brac | [xkcd - A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language - By Randall Munroe] |
| 21:40.57 | keldwud | my hobby? insisting that RL objects are photoshopped ;) |
| 21:41.21 | keldwud | and findlay - I will be invoicing you for the information hook up ;) |
| 21:41.54 | keldwud | howabout festschrift? |
| 21:42.02 | keldwud | that's a cool unique identifier |
| 21:42.16 | utahcon | so... um.. anyone got a Tmobile phone they are willing to part with for cheap? |
| 21:42.24 | utahcon | I washed mine... again :( |
| 21:42.36 | maquis | utahcon: lol |
| 21:42.44 | goozbach | apg will make decent nics |
| 21:43.00 | goozbach | ladyujomth |
| 21:43.19 | goozbach | fredjeshec |
| 21:43.38 | goozbach | there's one: fredsjesh |
| 21:43.40 | keldwud | but the scripted nicks lack meaning. using the human mind you can create nicks with both meaning and uniqueness |
| 21:44.10 | keldwud | the scripted nicks still have just that air about them that is random, they are not *sculpted* |
| 21:44.13 | maquis | what about: Shoo8aTh |
| 21:44.16 | utahcon | Yeah I am total tard |
| 21:44.20 | utahcon | I washed my old phone |
| 21:44.23 | utahcon | so the wife and I got new phones |
| 21:44.35 | utahcon | here I am three months later... same damned thing :( |
| 21:44.53 | keldwud | any two word combinations in that link I provided would produce a great nick. |
| 21:45.08 | goozbach | fred was a minor character from Ender's game who never won a single battle room game. However he had such shinningly white teeth he was popular enough to have his own Jesh. |
| 21:45.08 | utahcon | so it looks like I am back to WalMart for a new Tmo-To-Go phone :( |
| 21:45.11 | findlay | I want one with unicode in it |
| 21:45.18 | keldwud | isn't there a latin phrase that applies to your situation utahcon? |
| 21:45.49 | dmdavis | findlay: make it upside down |
| 21:45.51 | goozbach | keldwud: the trick is to make up a story about what you get from the password generator |
| 21:46.32 | utahcon | I am sure there are plenty of latin phrases tha tapply |
| 21:46.44 | dmdavis | sıÊÉpɯp |
| 21:46.45 | levi | utahcon: You should stop washing your phones. |
| 21:46.58 | dmdavis | ÊÉÊpuÄ±É |
| 21:47.24 | utahcon | Trust me... no clothes go in the washer without a very solid pat down |
| 21:47.42 | findlay | ¡ÊÉÊpuÄ±É |
| 21:48.12 | levi | utahcon: You should probably remove the phone from your clothes before removing the clothes. :) |
| 21:48.13 | keldwud | goozbach - nice :) but it took a human to sculpt the meaning. the meaning was not scripted at all. |
| 21:48.13 | keldwud | utahcon: something about destined to repeat certain actions? |
| 21:48.13 | keldwud | goozbach: see what I'm getting at? :) |
| 21:49.19 | keldwud | it is nice having a 7inch laptop when trying to read upside down text |
| 21:49.24 | keldwud | *fliip* :) |
| 21:49.40 | dmdavis | keldwud: what kind? |
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| 21:51.36 | dmdavis | keldwud: what kind of laptop you have? |
| 21:52.22 | utahcon | w00t@ |
| 21:52.25 | utahcon | so... |
| 21:52.52 | utahcon | gotta a temp phone from the step-mom (yay!) which will hold me over till Tmo comes out with and Android later this year (pending laundry schedule) |
| 21:53.16 | findlay | just buy a pair of pants every week |
| 21:53.26 | findlay | you can get jeans at wm for like ~ $10 |
| 21:53.27 | utahcon | lol |
| 21:53.46 | utahcon | if I could buy jeans at walmart I would, but they don't carry my size. |
| 21:53.49 | utahcon | well... not often |
| 21:53.54 | utahcon | <-- big boty |
| 21:53.55 | findlay | me neither |
| 21:53.58 | utahcon | boy* |
| 22:01.03 | unum | has been reading shadow of the hegemon |
| 22:01.20 | unum | I'm trying to to finish it to quickly. I often feel that way with sci fi. |
| 22:01.24 | unum | I'm done?!?! |
| 22:01.30 | unum | but I was enjoying that |
| 22:02.21 | unum | ender's game is a great book to read after a girl breaks up with you |
| 22:14.00 | keldwud | dmdavis: an eepc |
| 22:14.08 | keldwud | s/eepc/eeepc/ |
| 22:15.14 | unum | I want one of those |
| 22:15.31 | unum | s/to to/not to |
| 22:15.42 | unum | that's meant for several lines back |
| 22:16.06 | unum | ender's game might be the only book I've read more than once |
| 22:16.28 | dmdavis | keldwud: how do you like it? I'm thinking of getting one "for my wife" |
| 22:17.29 | findlay | how come nobody say ajax anymore? |
| 22:17.56 | Tene | dmdavis: i like mine |
| 22:18.09 | Tene | findlay: I can say it for you if you'd like. |
| 22:18.13 | sjansen | findlay: 'Cause it's annoying marketing speak. |
| 22:18.16 | findlay | Tene: k |
| 22:18.26 | Tene | $35 for each instance |
| 22:18.34 | dmdavis | Tene: what do you use it for? |
| 22:18.45 | Tene | dmdavis: right now, IRC |
| 22:18.47 | findlay | ~instantiate Tene(ajax) |
| 22:19.17 | dmdavis | Tene: it work all right for web browsing/word processing/spread sheeting/etc.? |
| 22:19.29 | findlay | dmdavis: I use mine for everything |
| 22:19.34 | findlay | even for watching movies |
| 22:19.46 | dmdavis | the small keyboard bother you? |
| 22:19.58 | Tene | dmdavis: yeah |
| 22:20.03 | Tene | dmdavis: works great. |
| 22:20.07 | findlay | display/keyboard are a little cramped, but the portability, battery make it awesome |
| 22:20.14 | Tene | the keyboard rarely bothers me, but I wouldn't want to use it for programming |
| 22:20.18 | dmdavis | yeah, that's why I'm excited about it |
| 22:20.24 | maquis | likes the olpc |
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| 22:22.46 | sjansen | likes harleypig's laptop |
| 22:23.42 | findlay | likes stuff |
| 22:23.45 | goozbach | I like my laptop |
| 22:28.11 | sjansen | goozbach: Oh, yes, T61p _very_ nice. |
| 22:28.11 | sjansen | b |
| 22:29.21 | sjansen | But harleypig's.... the word laptop does such a power job of capturing its majesty.... is in a class by itself. |
| 22:31.19 | goozbach | what is it, I'm curious. |
| 22:31.33 | goozbach | s/\./\?/ |
| 22:34.41 | hatchmt | my T43 is still chuggin' along just fine, and I have not any plans to upgrade it any time soon. |
| 22:34.52 | dmdavis | findlay: what kind of battery life you get with the eeepc? |
| 22:35.07 | unum | I want an eeepc for doing slide show presentations |
| 22:35.13 | findlay | dmdavis: about 3.5-4 hours, but I'm still running off the USB |
| 22:35.39 | dmdavis | findlay: running off the USB? |
| 22:37.06 | findlay | dmdavis: I didn't like the distro that came with it, so I'm runnign eeeos on a usb drive in the meantime before I install gentoo |
| 22:37.24 | dmdavis | OK |
| 22:37.37 | sjansen | dmdavis: You didn't know? The eeePC has an experimental new USB port that can suck static electricity out of the air to recharge the battery. |
| 22:38.13 | dmdavis | you're just required to wear wool socks |
| 22:38.25 | sjansen | For the most part it's been a success. However, running an eeePC in high humidity conditions turns out to be... shocking. |
| 22:38.43 | findlay | ~tesla sjansen |
| 22:42.27 | findlay | gah, EDI! |
| 22:42.29 | findlay | save me |
| 22:42.38 | findlay | :( |
| 22:48.48 | keldwud | dmdavis: dood, the eeepc is freaking awesome, when I come back to utah I'll let you check it out |
| 22:49.05 | keldwud | I use my eeepc for everything |
| 22:49.48 | dmdavis | you guys think the 900 is worth waiting for? I heard the battery life isn't as good |
| 22:50.01 | dmdavis | or is the 700 just that good? |
| 22:50.51 | elg | sjansen: so do you know any trick for getting latex twosided to start on the RIGHT page? |
| 22:51.11 | elg | the title page on the left-hand side is pretty useless for a standalone paper |
| 22:51.43 | maquis | elg: you mean you don't wnat the title page by itself, or you do |
| 22:51.44 | maquis | ? |
| 22:51.57 | keldwud | dmd you don't need 9 inches |
| 22:51.58 | elg | it's fine by itself, but it should be a right-hand page |
| 22:52.02 | maquis | or are you printing in landscape with 2 portrait pages? |
| 22:52.07 | elg | or side-agnostic |
| 22:52.08 | keldwud | I think the 4G is perfect at 400 dollars |
| 22:52.15 | sjansen | elg: LaTeX, no. ConTeXt, yes. |
| 22:52.20 | maquis | elg: does it have a page number at the bottom or something that makes it a left/right page? |
| 22:52.29 | elg | margins |
| 22:52.31 | maquis | oh |
| 22:52.34 | elg | for binding and all that |
| 22:52.53 | elg | i'll probably just leave it without twosided |
| 22:53.22 | sjansen | Or make the cover page independent. |
| 22:53.40 | elg | that would be ok, but how do you do that? the twosided thing is a parameter to the documentstlye |
| 22:53.43 | sjansen | Imagine the freedom! You could use any tool at all. |
| 22:53.52 | sjansen | "How'd you get that awesome cover?" |
| 22:53.52 | elg | oh, I see :) |
| 22:53.55 | sjansen | "MS Paint" |
| 22:53.58 | elg | actually I could do that. |
| 22:54.03 | elg | i don't think I'll use MS paint though |
| 22:54.18 | elg | :) |
| 22:56.34 | keldwud | http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/594203/?ps=5 |
| 22:58.10 | elg | coates++ |
| 22:58.47 | keldwud | I won't be making it, I'm still in cali |
| 22:59.09 | keldwud | they should have done the upcoming invite sooner than last minute :) |
| 22:59.41 | keldwud | oh wait, it's the 13th. n/m |
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| 23:16.27 | sjansen | elg: IIRC, you use a special LaTeX stylesheet for quizzes and tests that can create both student and instructor versions. What is it called? |
| 23:16.47 | maquis | ~lart emcnabb |
| 23:16.47 | ibot | declares emcnabb a moron |
| 23:16.47 | keldwud | battlestar galactaca hotness in playboy. yum. |
| 23:17.29 | elg | sjansen: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/examdesign/ |
| 23:17.33 | brac | [CTAN: directory: /tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/examdesign] |
| 23:18.09 | elg | sjansen: though I'm not entirely convinced it's worth it |
| 23:18.26 | elg | if you have run-of-the-mill exams, and want randomizing, then yeah |
| 23:18.36 | sjansen | keldwud: As a cultural note, Playboy references are unlikely to impress a large portion of this channel. |
| 23:18.37 | elg | but if you have funkey requirements like, say, code listings |
| 23:19.13 | *** mode/#utah [+o maquis] by ChanServ |
| 23:20.26 | sjansen | ~taunt maquis |
| 23:20.27 | ibot | ACTION taunts maquis a second time |
| 23:20.37 | keldwud | sjansen - it was the battlestar galactica reference I was going for. |
| 23:21.01 | sjansen | ~challenge maquis |
| 23:21.02 | keldwud | Tricia Helfer is a hottie |
| 23:21.26 | keldwud | I guess I'll rescind my statement since Tricia Helfer is obviously not a cool topic. |
| 23:21.29 | keldwud | jeeze |
| 23:21.33 | Tene | ~sjansen maquis |
| 23:21.34 | ibot | ACTION tells maquis good things about sjansen |
| 23:21.46 | sjansen | ~mock maquis |
| 23:21.47 | ibot | ACTION pulls maquis's pants down and shows the world maquis's pink spotted underwear |
| 23:22.00 | elg | anyone know a tool to resize a pdf? I have a little itty bitty image I want to make big |
| 23:22.25 | sjansen | elg: pdftk might be able to do that |
| 23:22.29 | elg | it's vector, so it'll scale fine. but for unhappy reasons I need a pdf that is nominally the size I need, or a png |
| 23:22.39 | keldwud | I mean, pulling somebody's pants down and pink spotted underwear are cool, but mentioning a hot chick from battlestar galactica is totally not win? yeah I understand |
| 23:22.54 | keldwud | I'll watch what I say in the future,. |
| 23:23.07 | sjansen | ~congratulate keldwud |
| 23:23.07 | ibot | ACTION congratulates keldwud on being a new owner of a $500 brick. |
| 23:23.08 | keldwud | and avoid making references to girls |
| 23:23.11 | keldwud | laughs |
| 23:23.23 | elg | nobody knocked you down |
| 23:23.47 | sjansen | Nasty, cruel things girls. Best to just avoid them. Ain't that so maquis? |
| 23:23.53 | elg | he just made an observation |
| 23:24.03 | maquis | turned around for a bit and realizes #utah went crazy |
| 23:24.05 | maquis | reads back |
| 23:24.34 | keldwud | ahh, yeah, I guess I can see how my statement could have been interpreted as an attempt to impress #utah ;) |
| 23:24.46 | maquis | sjansen: very true |
| 23:24.47 | maquis | :) |
| 23:24.48 | Heartsbane | went ... past tense s/went/still/ |
| 23:24.56 | keldwud | and I tend to take things *way* too seriously online anyway :) |
| 23:25.03 | keldwud | it makes me trollish. |
| 23:25.11 | sjansen | ~slay keldwud |
| 23:25.11 | ibot | ACTION brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, keldwud!" apt lops off keldwud's head. |
| 23:25.19 | maquis | points out that maquis is not overly impressed with playboy references... |
| 23:25.23 | sjansen | wins again |
| 23:25.30 | keldwud | so nobody here thinks Tricia Helfer is a hottie |
| 23:25.46 | elg | got bored with bsg after the first season |
| 23:25.51 | elg | so, not hot enough it would seem |
| 23:25.58 | maquis | keldwud: don't know who she is, but i doubt i'd consider her a hottie, personally |
| 23:26.17 | keldwud | well I guess I totally failed at sharing something I thought was cool. |
| 23:26.40 | keldwud | didn't realize the word playboy detracted from the content of my message. |
| 23:26.42 | sjansen | keldwud: I'd watch out for maquis. She's one Y short of a complete set. |
| 23:26.54 | keldwud | haha |
| 23:27.18 | keldwud | there are no girls on the internets sjansen, don't you know that? ;) |
| 23:27.28 | maquis | yeah... didn't you know that? |
| 23:27.31 | maquis | :P |
| 23:27.39 | Heartsbane | xkcd.com/322 |
| 23:27.45 | Heartsbane | maquis: FIRE!!! |
| 23:27.48 | sjansen | What? I thought you could believe ever thing you read on the Internet. I'm crushed. :-( |
| 23:29.41 | maquis | lol |
| 23:29.52 | maquis | Heartsbane: that's a good one :) |
| 23:30.11 | Heartsbane | :) |
| 23:30.53 | maquis | one of my teammates has a bunch of xkcds up in his cube |
| 23:31.02 | maquis | i should print out some of my favorites and post them up... |
| 23:31.27 | Heartsbane | ya |
| 23:32.03 | sjansen | ~steal maquis's @ |
| 23:32.03 | ibot | ACTION grabs maquis's @ and gives it to sjansen |
| 23:32.19 | sjansen | BOW BEFORE ME FOR I AM @! |
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| 23:33.30 | maquis | de-@s sjansen |
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