IRC log for #utah on 20080427

00:06.21elg~ask
00:06.22ibotQuestions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.
00:06.39elgheh
00:06.43elgis here against his will
00:06.46elg~save elg
00:06.47ibotACTION runs into a burning building and saves elg from certain death. Is that enough?
00:06.53elgno
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01:28.56Supaplex'z back
01:31.54Supaplex~stir coal
01:31.55ibotACTION throws coal in to the pot, stirs it up and serves coal soup to all who want some
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02:42.42leviSo, it turns out that they aren't kidding when they say register allocation is a hard problem.
02:42.55elg:)
02:43.15sonteklevi: make your language stack based, its easier
02:43.26leviI finally gave up and just load and store what I need for every intermediate instruction.
02:43.36levisontek: I didn't have a choice.
02:44.54sontekI decided to go back to school =)
02:45.29levisontek: To get a graduate degree or to finish undergrad?
02:45.35sontekfinish undergrad
02:45.43leviThat's what I'm doing at the present.
02:46.04sontekI dropped out after a semester and went to work, but decided I want my degree (and want the knowledge that the degree will bring)
02:46.37sontekright now i'm just taking geneds at slcc for the summer since its right down the road from work and trying to decide if I want byu or the U
02:47.14sontekI guess the U doesn't doesn't have an "accredited" CS degree (dunno exactly why) but I hear its really good
02:47.34sontekand only person I've talked to about BYU is spr and he says it was really good
02:47.53leviThe U's CS degree is just fine.
02:48.28leviThe department was very prestigious back in the day.
02:49.20sontekyou know the differences between the 2? does one do more compiler/low level stuff than the other?
02:50.12leviI'm not really sure.  I didn't get to the upper level courses at BYU, and I haven't attended the U.
02:50.34leviI'm finishing up at UVSC.
02:50.38sontekwhere are you at right now? uvsc?
02:50.43sontekahh.. do you like it?
02:50.54leviIt's a pretty decent program, actually.
02:51.33leviAt least the upper-level courses.
02:51.46leviI transferred the earlier ones from BYU.
02:51.52sontekdecriptor is attending there right now too, he says its good
02:53.08sontekMy main interest is in compilers/languages and operating system dev (ie kernel drivers)
02:53.39sontekso whatever school does that best is what I want
02:54.12leviHeh.
02:56.09leviWell, that's what I'm interested in too, but I'm afraid there's not a whole lot available at the undergrad level.
02:56.46sontekyeah, thats where I went wrong, I left and went to work and picked up all the initial skills there
02:57.08sontekso now I want the more advanced stuff and have to go through the undergrad to get there
02:57.48leviThere will be some upper-level classes that cover that stuff anywhere.  I just got finished with a low-level OS class and a compiler class.
02:58.54sontekwhat school is known to cover the most about it?
02:59.02sontekor are they all equal?
02:59.36leviWe implemented task switching, segmentation, and virtual memory on x86 within the framework of a toy os called GeekOS.
03:01.22leviThe bigger schools will have more opportunities to seek out undergrad research.
03:01.56leviIf you're interested in Scheme, the U has one of the PLT guys there.
03:02.05leviThey also did OSKit there a while back.
03:02.55findlayyay, UU
03:03.06findlayhas transferred there
03:09.23sontekfindlay: how you liking it?
03:11.28findlaysontek: well so far I've only just met with my advisor
03:11.54findlaysontek: I'm excited to be able to engage in some real, heavy research
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04:27.40findlay~hey lakshmi
04:27.41ibothmm... lakshmi is wonderful and you should get to know her
04:27.48findlay~hey findlay
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04:42.48elgfindlay: when did you transfer there?
04:43.13elgtries to figure out what the heck is discriminant analysis
04:44.29findlayelg: I wanted to do more undergrauate research
04:45.13findlaywhereas you, being a graduate, have to do the real research
04:45.21findlaylaughs at elg from his playpen
04:46.07elgheh, so I find http://marketing.byu.edu/htmlpages/tutorials/discriminant.htm
04:46.23elgwhich is written by a guy I used to sysadmin for
04:46.45Supaplex~stir elg
04:46.45ibotACTION throws elg in to the pot, stirs it up and serves elg soup to all who want some
04:46.58elgunfortunately that doesn't magically help me understand what he wrote :(
04:47.33findlaytry the wikipedias
04:47.38elg<PROTECTED>
04:48.24elgscott was the marketing brains, vivek was the coder guy
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04:55.09sonteki look back at when I was in high school, I thought I was gods gift to the coding world
04:55.23sontekthen I get out of highschool and started working and learned I really sucked =)
04:55.48elg-lastfm recenttracks jaycehall
04:55.48bracrecenttracks for jaycehall:
04:55.48bracMadonna – Ray Of Light (Liquid Mix), Kylie Minogue – Slow, Crystal Waters – 100% Pure Love (Radio Mix), Erasure – When I Needed You
04:56.03sontekthats a cool feature =)
04:56.17sontek-lastfm recenttracks sontek
04:56.17bracrecenttracks for sontek:
04:56.18bracMadonna – Secret, Aqualung – Good Times Gonna Come, Metallica – The Unforgiven, System of a Down – Shimmy
04:56.30elghmm, a lot of madonna happenin' in this channel
04:56.32sontekrofl
04:56.42elg-lastfm recenttracks fugalh
04:56.43bracrecenttracks for fugalh:
04:56.43bracNorah Jones – Feelin' the Same Way, Norah Jones – Cold Cold Heart, Norah Jones – Seven Years, Norah Jones – Don't know why
04:56.49elgnorah > madonna
04:57.29sonteknever heard ofo her
04:58.13sontekI have an andre 3000 mp3 featuring her
05:00.07elgmainstreamish jazz singer
05:02.07Supaplexnukeifies xen
05:02.37nick125Supaplex: lol, what did it do to you?
05:03.19Supaplexwell, I should lart nvidia for their (modern) non FOSS drivers
05:04.21levielg: You listen to Art of Noise yet?
05:04.34elgthat track, yea
05:04.54elgit was ok. more dance than weird though
05:05.58findlay~lart nvidia
05:05.58ibothauls nvidia up by the scruff of the neck and spanks him until he waddles
05:06.07leviWell, it's one of their less weird tracks.
05:06.52findlaySupaplex: that reminds me.  The onboard video card on my server says "Engineering release - Not for production use" when I boot it :-)
05:07.02findlay(it's an nvidia 6100)
05:07.08Supaplexhah
05:07.47levielg: It was also an early version of the song.  I like the one on (Who's Afraid of?) The Art of Noise! better.
05:08.47leviHere's a weirder one: http://youtube.com/watch?v=muCdL9e0pQ8
05:11.08leviTomorrow I need to dig into my boxes of CDs and pull out some stuff I haven't heard in a while.
05:13.12leviThis has the album version of Beat Box (Diversion One) as the soundtrack, as long as you don't mind watching some girl dance to it: http://youtube.com/watch?v=4CMA6N-XrA0
05:19.54elgopus 4 is more like it
05:23.31leviThat's what I was thinking of when you mentioned the weirder Yaz stuff.
05:28.50Supaplex-excuse
05:28.51bracReformatting Page. Wait...
05:28.59Supaplex-excuse
05:28.59bracStanding room only on the bus.
05:29.04leviThis one has a weird video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=RIcmIhOesaI
05:33.59findlayman
05:34.12findlaythis website is taking like 20 minutes for each page view
05:34.42Supaplex~poke innerweb
05:34.42ibotACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind innerweb, pokes innerweb repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
05:36.56leviThis is awesome: http://www.thatsaspicymeatball.com/comments/
05:37.14findlay~awesome levi
05:40.05leviYouTube comments are pretty much the bottom of the barrel.
05:40.15leviIt makes one fear for humanity.
05:40.19leviTime for me to sleep.
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05:41.18Supaplex~stir lakshmi
05:41.19ibotACTION throws lakshmi in to the pot, stirs it up and serves lakshmi soup to all who want some
05:43.29findlay~trogdor yesterday
05:43.30ibotACTION burninates yesterday
06:25.42nick125fluxbox is awesome
06:25.58nick125I now have it where I can do 75% of stuff without a mouse
07:12.02lakshmihey
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14:26.54findlay~hey lakshmi
14:26.55iboti guess lakshmi is wonderful and you should get to know her
14:27.09findlay-excuse
14:27.09bracSomeone was smoking in the computer room and set off the halon systems.
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20:10.26Sargunstr(6666)[:-1]=="666"; True
21:46.33sontekdo any of you guys use a password on your screen for re-attaching or do you think thats to much security?
21:50.26nick125sontek: I think it would be too much.
22:19.53Zelutsontek: actually didn't know you could password protect it.
22:20.25sontekZelut: I just found out, thats why I was wondering
22:45.13nick125sontek: It seems pointless to me because for someone to attach your screen session, they'd need your login.
22:45.28nick125(Well, to get access to the system *to* attach your screen)
22:46.20sonteknick125: I was thinking it'd could be used where I let a friend use my lappy, but detach irssi screen so they don't say "HEY GUYS I LOVE GOATSE" or something :P
22:47.59nick125My friends are not smart enough to attach a screen and I don't let the use my laptop, so...
22:49.46Sargunnick125, I can reattach a screen! screen rm -rf /
22:50.37nick125Sargun: That would go under the second clause
22:50.47Sargunhehe.
22:51.21nick125I hate my SATA controller.
22:51.52nick125Sargun: On your SATA drives, what throughput do you get?
22:52.23Sargunin RAID5?
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22:52.45nick125Sargun: Just a normal drive (RAID5 would be useful, too)
22:53.00Sargunthat's no RAId
22:53.02SargunRAID1:
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22:53.18SargunRAID5:
22:53.34nick125Sargun: What SATA controller?
22:53.34Sargun<PROTECTED>
22:53.34Sargun<PROTECTED>
22:53.42Sargunuh, mobo built in one?
22:54.31nick125Sargun: what tool did you use to do that?
22:55.01SargunLSI Logic / Symbios Logic SAS1068E PCI-Express Fusion-MPT SAS (rev 08)
22:55.04Sargunhdparm -tT
22:55.11SargunI'm using software RAID
22:55.16Sargunnot hardware RAID
22:56.31nick125yeah, hwraid sucks
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