| 00:01.04 | levi | I'm pretty sure the problem is me getting old and not exercising enough. |
| 00:03.52 | Tene | levi: or pregnancy |
| 00:40.58 | findlay | hello |
| 00:41.50 | findlay | levi: I felt somewhat like that a little while ago. I found that I was eating way too many frozen burritos and started exercizing again :) |
| 01:01.17 | tensai | ~Tene++ |
| 01:19.26 | levi | findlay: Well, I did have about 3 weeks of restaurant meals paid for by work at lunchtime. |
| 01:42.44 | findlay | levi: that'll do it :) |
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| 01:50.16 | elg | celery, blech |
| 01:50.20 | elg | might as well eat cardboard |
| 01:50.44 | Sargun | elg, Celery is amazing. |
| 01:50.57 | elg | in the same way that mud is |
| 01:51.04 | Sargun | Not exactly. |
| 01:51.08 | elg | no actually I think mud is more amazing |
| 01:51.23 | findlay | elg: it's much better if you put stuff on it like peanut butter or salad dressing or something or other fatty substance |
| 01:51.33 | elg | so is mud |
| 01:51.47 | Sargun | elg, Mud has way to many rocks |
| 01:52.01 | elg | celery has too many strings |
| 01:52.06 | Sargun | it also causes all sorts of illnesses and chops up the inside of my tongue. |
| 01:52.09 | Sargun | er, my mouth |
| 01:52.18 | elg | again, like celery |
| 01:52.28 | findlay | the tender celery stalks from the center of the bunch are the best |
| 01:53.12 | Sargun | findlay, yes. |
| 01:53.49 | keldwud | hey what's the command to show processes and their ID's? |
| 01:53.55 | keldwud | I need to kill firefox again |
| 01:54.19 | findlay | you have many options |
| 01:54.24 | findlay | I prefer pstree -p |
| 01:54.29 | nick125 | ps aux | grep -i firefox |
| 01:54.35 | nick125 | pgrep firefox |
| 01:54.44 | Sargun | pkill -9 firefox-bin |
| 01:54.53 | nick125 | killall -9 firefox-bin |
| 01:54.54 | nick125 | yeah |
| 01:54.55 | keldwud | is it always -9 though? |
| 01:55.02 | Sargun | keldwud, no. |
| 01:55.21 | keldwud | so I need to find the process number first right? |
| 01:55.38 | nick125 | -9 is a flag to killall/pkill telling it what signal to send to the process |
| 01:55.39 | brac | okay |
| 01:55.43 | elg | -9 means you want to be as mean as possibel |
| 01:55.51 | nick125 | kicks brac |
| 01:55.58 | keldwud | oh that did it :) the killall -9 firefox-bin |
| 01:56.15 | keldwud | haha, why can't you kill processes in windows? |
| 01:56.23 | Sargun | No |
| 01:56.30 | Sargun | Windows doesn't have multitasking |
| 01:56.34 | Sargun | ;-P |
| 01:57.12 | keldwud | sucks that firefox locks up resources like IE sometimes |
| 01:57.17 | keldwud | at least it isn't as often |
| 01:57.28 | keldwud | IE 6 gives me such a pain in the butt at work. |
| 01:59.15 | elg | there's a task manager in windows too |
| 01:59.20 | elg | that lets you kill processes |
| 01:59.24 | elg | or at least pretend to |
| 01:59.37 | elg | and it stays on top of all the other windows, just to be sure you're annoyed |
| 02:32.32 | Sargun | brbr |
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| 02:39.22 | nick125 | loads his treo with a bunch of programs |
| 02:40.46 | nick125 | Sargun: What are your favorite apps? |
| 02:41.25 | fozzmoo | I know you didn't ask... |
| 02:41.35 | fozzmoo | but pssh, butler, chatteremail, chatopus... |
| 02:41.48 | fozzmoo | genius, phone technician... |
| 02:41.52 | nick125 | fozzmoo: Is butler worth it? |
| 02:41.57 | fozzmoo | I like Butler. |
| 02:42.07 | fozzmoo | It's my favorite of all the apps from that company. |
| 02:42.12 | fozzmoo | I like it because it annoys me. |
| 02:42.13 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 02:42.15 | nick125 | lol |
| 02:42.17 | fozzmoo | Which is a funny thign to say... |
| 02:42.21 | fozzmoo | but I need my phone to annoy me. |
| 02:42.33 | fozzmoo | DEMAND my attention when I get a text message saying "Server is down." |
| 02:42.42 | nick125 | I need a better alarm than the one in world clock |
| 02:42.48 | fozzmoo | Yeah. Butler's good for that. |
| 02:42.52 | fozzmoo | 6 alarms. |
| 02:43.02 | fozzmoo | You can configure them to go off on certain days. |
| 02:43.11 | fozzmoo | And you can make them annoying as well. :) |
| 02:43.38 | nick125 | My main problem with the world clock alarm is that I ignore them and I'll end up waking up at 8:15am (when I have to be at school at 8:30am). |
| 02:43.59 | fozzmoo | I have two alarms in Butler. One at 6 and another at 6:15. |
| 02:44.09 | fozzmoo | That usually works for me. |
| 02:45.16 | nick125 | I had some problems with chatteremail on my old 700p, haven't tried it on my 755p yet. |
| 02:46.47 | nick125 | hmm |
| 02:46.55 | nick125 | checks out this alarm program he found |
| 02:47.04 | fozzmoo | I'm pissed w/ my 700p |
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| 02:47.18 | nick125 | fozzmoo: You're stuck on a 700p? What carrier? |
| 02:47.20 | fozzmoo | I had a reboot-cycling thing a couple months back. |
| 02:47.22 | fozzmoo | Sprint. |
| 02:47.25 | nick125 | ah. |
| 02:47.41 | fozzmoo | I took it in to Sprint and they "fixed" it... but I think they loaded the latest and greatest firmware on int too. |
| 02:47.46 | fozzmoo | It has ALL kinds of problems. |
| 02:48.00 | fozzmoo | I'm afraid to take it back and complain, but I want to. |
| 02:48.05 | nick125 | I got so tired of my 700p that I kept exchanging it for different issues, and Verizon finally replaced it with the 755p, which is several times better than the 700p. |
| 02:48.05 | fozzmoo | The call history is useless. |
| 02:48.13 | fozzmoo | The favorites buttons don't work anymore. |
| 02:48.38 | fozzmoo | The ring tone volume escalates... even when the checkbox to do so is unchecked. |
| 02:48.45 | fozzmoo | Stupid. |
| 02:49.21 | fozzmoo | I want a Centro. |
| 02:49.26 | fozzmoo | I mean, I think I want a Centro. |
| 02:49.34 | fozzmoo | Is there a reason to have a 755p and not a Centro? |
| 02:49.34 | lakshmi | fozzmoo me too |
| 02:49.45 | fozzmoo | lakshmi: You just want one because they come in pink! |
| 02:49.55 | lakshmi | hah no |
| 02:50.04 | nick125 | fozzmoo: I personally don't like the Centro size/keyboard. |
| 02:50.14 | lakshmi | i kind of dont like the way the centro looks looks like a BB too much |
| 02:50.27 | fozzmoo | My wife has a Blackberry Pearl |
| 02:50.44 | fozzmoo | and one of my employees has a full-screen blackberry, a curve, I think. |
| 02:50.49 | fozzmoo | I'm not impressed with the Blackberries. |
| 02:51.11 | fozzmoo | I might just hang on to my 700p until a nice Android PDA-phone is available. |
| 02:56.59 | nick125 | fozzmoo: With butler, will the alarms vibrate if the phone is on vibrate? |
| 02:59.32 | fozzmoo | Yeah, I think. |
| 03:00.06 | nick125 | I found this one freeware alarm program, which would work perfect *except* that the alarms won't vibrate if the vibrate switch is set |
| 03:01.25 | nick125 | deinstallers that app |
| 03:11.00 | Supaplex | is distracted for a moment - http://anythinglife.net/onlinegames/ |
| 03:26.26 | tensai | findlay: awake? |
| 03:27.20 | Sargun | findlay is obviously awake. |
| 03:27.42 | Sargun | yet, he is attempting to find find a connection to IRC |
| 03:28.11 | Sargun | fozzmoo, The CrackBerry Perl is just a standard phone... |
| 03:28.14 | Sargun | with a beefed up OS |
| 03:28.34 | fozzmoo | And a little rollerball nipple thingie. |
| 03:30.02 | Sargun | I feel like taking that and putting it an airsoft gun, then laying the Crackberry 30 feet away. Launching the rollerball towards the crackberry's inlay for the crackberry's rollerball at 700 FPS. |
| 03:30.28 | Sargun | So as it makes contact with the crackberry it would destroy the case resulting in crack and berries covering the environment. |
| 03:30.56 | Sargun | That would be absolutely fabulous! |
| 03:31.52 | findlay | ~wake tensai |
| 03:31.53 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on tensai and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 03:32.21 | tensai | findlay: http://www.zmonkey.org/~tensai/goodeats.mp3 |
| 03:32.34 | tensai | what's that tune playing in the background? |
| 03:32.51 | tensai | I've heard it before I'm sure. I want to say it's Bach. |
| 03:34.56 | findlay | it's a very treble-boosted recording of the air (2nd movement) from JS Bach's 3rd orchestral suite in G dur BWV 1068 |
| 03:34.57 | Supaplex | tensai: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/04/19/funny-pictures-i-maekz-better-tootz/ |
| 03:35.47 | tensai | findlay: aha! that's right. I have a piano recording of that around here somewhere. |
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| 04:56.53 | Sargun | FUADWAdwadwadwa |
| 04:57.05 | Sargun | FINALLY, I CAN SET THE FREAKING SERIAL SPEED ON THIS |
| 04:57.14 | Sargun | -destress- |
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| 11:42.29 | Supaplex | keldwud: good morning |
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| 13:29.59 | elg | ~rlart |
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| 13:32.52 | dilvie | moving... need to get rid of some clutter |
| 13:32.54 | dilvie | http://utahraves.com/showthread.php?t=8561 |
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| 14:11.50 | ^Migs^ | http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm173/temporary1_bucket/big-mac-class.jpg |
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| 14:40.42 | elg | ~rlart |
| 14:40.42 | ibot | puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, sontek, this won't hurt a bit...." |
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| 15:59.40 | ^Migs^ | http://www.s8ftp.com/saber_fight/ |
| 15:59.41 | brac | [Untitled Document] |
| 16:02.43 | bonez44 | I need some help with setting up a VPN...I would like something that ties my office LAN together with my home LAN...I have cable at each end.....Suggestions? what works for some of you? I want to do this so that whether at home or work, I can check email easily...(I get my email at work...manage my mail with exim4)... and want to have a central single directory for demographics, of friends, work clients, patients...all in one easy to access place, or tied to |
| 16:03.05 | harleypig | Get a really long cable? |
| 16:03.12 | harleypig | ducks |
| 16:03.18 | bonez44 | hehehe, oh, one cable from office to work? |
| 16:03.19 | bonez44 | right |
| 16:03.57 | ^Migs^ | use OpenVPN |
| 16:04.19 | ^Migs^ | or even just Hamachi if you don't want to spend time configuring it |
| 16:04.40 | ^Migs^ | don't know if there's a Hamachi available for Linux, though |
| 16:06.37 | bonez44 | well, the network is mostly win xp at home..and win xp mixed with debian etch here at office |
| 16:08.20 | bonez44 | if I used OpenVPN, could it work with my windows machines too? or is it more a linux thing? |
| 16:09.11 | jsmith | bonez44: There are OpenVPN clients for Windows |
| 16:09.24 | goozbach | als |
| 16:09.31 | goozbach | hmm |
| 16:09.46 | goozbach | that looks suspisious |
| 16:09.52 | goozbach | let me explain... |
| 16:10.11 | goozbach | I hit <esc>a to get to the next active window |
| 16:10.20 | goozbach | I guess I missed the <esc> |
| 16:10.34 | goozbach | then I hit ctrl-a to get to my next screen window |
| 16:11.07 | goozbach | but I guess I hit it one too many times. |
| 16:11.20 | goozbach | cause I atempted to do an ls in my shell |
| 16:11.41 | goozbach | which showed up here |
| 16:12.09 | sontek | what do you guys use as a backup system? right now we use custom rsync scripts, can you guys think of a better way? |
| 16:12.11 | jsmith | goozbach: One more reason not to use irrsi |
| 16:12.18 | jsmith | s/irrsi/irssi/ |
| 16:12.27 | jsmith | sontek: rdiff-backup |
| 16:12.28 | sontek | big thing was rsync supports doing deltas, so we aren't backing up 30gb a night over the web |
| 16:12.35 | goozbach | I'm not a trolling pervert |
| 16:12.39 | goozbach | just fyi |
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| 16:14.51 | pr0le | sontek: I use rsnapshot, which I really like - it also does incremental backups but each snapshot looks like a full backup to the end user |
| 16:15.51 | goozbach | I use dump |
| 16:16.16 | unum | so I have a problem where postmaster(postgresql) will take up 100% of both cpu's |
| 16:16.29 | unum | is there a way of setting postmaster not to do that |
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| 16:19.11 | sontek | jsmith-away: why do you like rdiff-backup? |
| 16:19.35 | sontek | pr0le: thanks, I'll check it out |
| 16:19.49 | jsmith-away | sontek: It uses the same algorithm as rsync so that you're no copying loads of extra data across the network |
| 16:20.12 | jsmith-away | sontek: And it does rolling backups, so that you're not doing weekly + daily backups (which are a pain to restore) |
| 16:20.13 | goozbach | sontek: we use a combination of system-imager and dump for our backup solution |
| 16:20.38 | jsmith-away | sontek: In short, yesterday's backup is the full backup, and the day before that is a diff against yesterday, etc. |
| 16:20.51 | jsmith-away | sontek: It's a different way of looking at backups, but it works very well |
| 16:20.58 | goozbach | hopefully we'll be moving to Zamanda soon however |
| 16:21.14 | goozbach | s/Zamanda/Zmanda/ |
| 16:21.16 | mrpull | does rdiff-backup have a point and drool gui yet? |
| 16:21.53 | jsmith-away | mrpull: No clue |
| 16:22.28 | mrpull | any canned reports? |
| 16:24.15 | sontek | jsmith-away: that sounds interesting, so if you need to restore a backup from 3 days ago, you restore yesterdays backup and then apply the diff for the 3rd day? |
| 16:25.01 | jsmith-away | sontek: Well, rdiff-backup takes care of all the work of doing that for you, but yes, that's basically what happens. |
| 16:25.54 | sontek | jsmith-away: and does it support backing up files from multiple protocols? like nfs, smb, ssh? |
| 16:26.11 | sontek | well, I guess it wouldn't matter, I could just mount the files I need to backup |
| 16:26.44 | jsmith-away | sontek: It uses whatever rsync will use... I've only done it over ssh |
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| 16:41.13 | dmdavis | so, in mutt I have it set up to mark New emails in bright yellow. However, I want it to do the same to collapsed threads containing new emails |
| 16:41.18 | dmdavis | anyone know how to do that? |
| 16:43.50 | bonez44 | how do you set mutt to display new emaiil is bright yellow? |
| 16:44.13 | dmdavis | color index brightyellow default ~N # New |
| 16:44.25 | bonez44 | is that in .muttrc? |
| 16:44.29 | dmdavis | yep |
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| 16:46.06 | bonez44 | dmdavis: does mutt need restarting, or do I need to reload bash to take effect? ' |
| 16:46.21 | dmdavis | you should just need to restart mutt |
| 16:46.59 | sontek | dmdavis: I don't know how to color it, but I use %?M?(#%03M)&(%4l)? in the index format, so it tells me how many messages are in the thread |
| 16:47.30 | dmdavis | sontek: what's the whole line? Or is that it? |
| 16:47.38 | bonez44 | hmm all my new emaiil is marked with N in second column, but not showing bright yellow, just a lighter blue than the rest |
| 16:48.37 | dmdavis | bonez44: does your terminal support colors? if you use ls --color, do you get colors? |
| 16:49.32 | bonez44 | yeah, I see white, dark blue, lither blue and red...oh and purple too |
| 16:49.49 | bonez44 | this is looking on my mail server...connected via ssh to that box.... |
| 16:50.29 | bonez44 | but I go to the mail server box directly and the colors are the same |
| 16:50.46 | bonez44 | no difference, whether via ssh or direct |
| 16:58.13 | bonez44 | dmdavis: any other ideas? what might be overriding this setting? |
| 16:58.47 | dmdavis | bonez44: sorry, no idea. I can send you my whole muttrc, and you can try it out if you'd like |
| 16:59.03 | dmdavis | bonez44: you might want to search your rc for ~N, see if it's getting set elsewhere |
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| 17:14.16 | tristanbob_ | is VirtualIron an open source friendly company? they are based on Xen... |
| 17:18.39 | dmdavis | sontek: OK, I figured out your index format, but unfortunately it doesn't include a count of new messages in the thread |
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| 19:27.26 | bonez44 | dmdavis: still on? I'd like to try your .muttrc .. if you still want to send.. |
| 19:27.59 | dmdavis | bonez44: yeah, no problem |
| 19:28.56 | bonez44 | I see some stuff with ~N for #Colors for items in the index.... what I ask, is the index? |
| 19:29.15 | dmdavis | I think it's the main email listing |
| 19:30.33 | bonez44 | ok...yeah, mine shows |
| 19:30.50 | bonez44 | oh wait..I changed it under that first Colors for items in the index and that shows yellow now.. |
| 19:31.10 | bonez44 | got it .. |
| 19:31.16 | bonez44 | not sure what that other listing is I changed |
| 19:31.54 | dmdavis | bonez44: well, at least it's working now |
| 19:32.38 | bonez44 | yeah |
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| 20:31.07 | lakshmi | hey guys |
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| 20:33.20 | lakshmi | hey guys |
| 20:35.34 | dmdavis | hi |
| 20:36.11 | lakshmi | dmdavis hey sup? |
| 20:36.28 | dmdavis | lakshmi: not much, just trying to make it through another day at the office :) |
| 20:36.40 | dmdavis | lakshmi: you? |
| 20:38.48 | lakshmi | sitting in an astronomy class and learning about planet formation |
| 20:38.48 | lakshmi | and realizing i cant go to NY, dumb finals :-S |
| 20:39.54 | dmdavis | why were you going to NY? |
| 20:41.22 | lakshmi | for fun? |
| 20:41.37 | lakshmi | my dad has to go to boston for something so i was gunna go with him and then go to NY too sicne they are all kinda close by |
| 20:41.48 | dmdavis | very cool. fun cities |
| 20:42.11 | lakshmi | yup they are |
| 20:43.01 | lakshmi | i kinda wanna go down and go to NC and stuff since thats the part of the east coast that i havent been to |
| 20:43.26 | dmdavis | I was just in Asheville, NC a month or two ago |
| 20:43.32 | dmdavis | very nice city |
| 20:45.00 | levi | I lived near Fayetteville, NC, for a while. |
| 20:46.01 | dmdavis | I lived near Fayetteville, NY, for a while. For what it's worth... |
| 20:51.04 | ^Migs^ | I know someone named Fay |
| 20:51.11 | findlay | how fey |
| 20:51.13 | ^Migs^ | hope that helps |
| 20:51.41 | ^Migs^ | ur fey |
| 20:55.47 | Sargun | dmdavis, Hello. |
| 20:56.18 | dmdavis | Sargun: hi |
| 20:56.37 | Sargun | How's your gentoo? |
| 20:57.18 | dmdavis | Sargun: :) my personal Gentoo is just dandy. My work Gentoo is getting ever more complex as I try to make it work equally well for everyone |
| 20:58.34 | Sargun | Ah, you should fork your work gentoo |
| 20:58.59 | dmdavis | problem is, we really need just one build that works for everyone |
| 20:59.06 | dmdavis | it's becoming rather difficult |
| 21:00.32 | dmdavis | Sargun: what have you been up to? |
| 21:01.27 | Sargun | dmdavis, Nothing much. Trying to convince this linksys switch it isn't the spawn of the devil. |
| 21:01.52 | Sargun | Its running IOS, and I'm seeing how difficult it would be to configure the IOS directly. |
| 21:01.52 | findlay | Sargun: has it been issuing demon packets? |
| 21:02.03 | Sargun | instead of through linksys's crappy web interface. |
| 21:02.51 | dmdavis | I must be getting old. I'm really getting sick of fighting with hardware, and wish things would Just Work® a lot more often |
| 21:03.11 | mrpull | findlay: how would youtube be implemented in javascript? |
| 21:03.25 | Sargun | dmdavis, Are you becoming an Appleman? |
| 21:03.36 | Sargun | mrpull, what piece of youtube? |
| 21:03.45 | mrpull | the parts that are currently flash |
| 21:03.46 | dmdavis | Sargun: I'd love to, but I'm too poor |
| 21:04.11 | dmdavis | Sargun: so, I'm just settling for disgruntled |
| 21:04.27 | Sargun | mrpull, you write a piece of JS that flips through GIFs which have X frames each |
| 21:04.29 | findlay | mrpull: I don't know. I just assumed that because no flash vector files were necessarily involved you didn't need flash :) |
| 21:04.58 | findlay | at least have the raw video so that you could have your browser plugin handle it |
| 21:05.13 | findlay | mplayerplugin works for me |
| 21:05.41 | Sargun | I wish programmers actually tested their software |
| 21:06.04 | mrpull | bah... flash video is a good thing |
| 21:06.15 | findlay | mrpull: why? |
| 21:06.34 | mrpull | it wasn't long ago that you needed a different plugin for every stinking video site |
| 21:06.41 | mrpull | flash seems to be the defacto standard now |
| 21:06.42 | Sargun | mrpull, Have you seen the code inside of flash? |
| 21:06.46 | mrpull | and that is good enough for me |
| 21:06.56 | findlay | flash isn't an open standard ® |
| 21:06.57 | mrpull | I've seen some shite actionscript yes |
| 21:07.14 | Sargun | Adobe's code looks like crack |
| 21:07.26 | Sargun | Its dangerous |
| 21:07.36 | findlay | and root exploitable :) |
| 21:07.59 | Sargun | that too. |
| 21:08.07 | Sargun | has a copy of Flash's code |
| 21:08.28 | Sargun | er, Flash viewer |
| 21:08.44 | findlay | well, I don't watch youtube. In fact, I have *.swf adblocked :-) |
| 21:08.57 | Sargun | I wonder if I have access to their Flash code... |
| 21:09.24 | findlay | Sargun: do you have a copy of the secret code? |
| 21:09.38 | Sargun | findlay, secret code? |
| 21:10.03 | findlay | yeah, the code that, um, does secret stuff and can detonate the world |
| 21:12.09 | Sargun | uhh |
| 21:12.11 | Sargun | of course! |
| 21:12.21 | Sargun | gcc -o secretcode secretcode.c |
| 21:12.24 | Sargun | ./secretcode |
| 21:12.42 | Sargun | Where are the explosions? |
| 21:13.58 | findlay | wow, that was amazing |
| 21:14.16 | Sargun | I know |
| 21:29.14 | tensai | woah. I just got a popunder ad. that's like the first one I've seen in many years. how annoying! |
| 21:29.36 | tensai | it came from gourmet.com. guess I'm never going to that site again. |
| 21:33.02 | mrpull | three cheers for monoprice.com |
| 21:33.09 | mrpull | ~cheer monoprice? |
| 21:33.09 | ibot | Three cheers for monoprice! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! |
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| 21:40.04 | keldwud | hey what's the linux equivalent of ipconfig /all? |
| 21:40.57 | ^Migs^ | ifconfig -a |
| 21:41.11 | ^Migs^ | I think |
| 21:41.38 | macnewbold | yeah, keldwud, ifconfig -a should do it |
| 21:41.56 | keldwud | thanks |
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| 21:41.59 | macnewbold | np |
| 21:42.07 | macnewbold | migs was faster |
| 21:42.57 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | I'm curious to find out if anyone has gotten mythtv running with one of the iprovo iptv providers. |
| 21:43.26 | PRoGRaMMeRQ | It'd be great to be able to just grab the digital stream verbatim. |
| 21:43.28 | synic | ~nickometer PRoGRaMMeRQ |
| 21:44.33 | ^Migs^ | see, I'm good for something sometimes |
| 21:44.50 | ^Migs^ | ~nickometer lame |
| 21:46.47 | mrpull | ~nickometer ^Migs^ |
| 21:46.49 | mrpull | ? |
| 21:46.56 | mrpull | not too lame... |
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| 21:52.34 | synic | ~nickometer sinuhe |
| 21:52.42 | synic | we have a winner |
| 21:52.49 | Tene | ~nickometer SyNiC |
| 21:52.54 | Tene | ~nickometer tene |
| 21:52.59 | Tene | ~nickometer TeNe |
| 21:53.47 | dmdavis | ~nickometer MyStIc_HaX0r |
| 21:56.21 | eggyknap | Well, I want to play :) |
| 21:56.32 | eggyknap | ~nickometer eggyknap |
| 21:56.40 | eggyknap | !w00t |
| 21:56.49 | goozbach | ok I need an emacs head |
| 21:57.02 | levi | What do you need to do with emacs? |
| 21:57.09 | eggyknap | ...or its head. |
| 21:57.10 | goozbach | why is the "move backword one word" command ESC-B? |
| 21:57.19 | goozbach | levi: to poke fun |
| 21:57.45 | goozbach | that has to be the hardest key seqence for something that happens regularly |
| 21:58.08 | levi | goozbach: It's M-b, not ESC-B. It just happens that you can use ESC as an alternative for M. |
| 21:58.47 | levi | And it's that way because C-b is "move forward one word", and it's standard for replacing C with M to reverse the meaning. |
| 21:59.14 | Tene | There are no keys on my keyboard named "Meta", though. |
| 21:59.15 | goozbach | that helps |
| 21:59.23 | levi | Meta is, by default, Alt. |
| 21:59.49 | goozbach | I have hereby lost all of my emacs knoledge |
| 21:59.53 | dmdavis | Tene: but you should have an m, e, t, and a |
| 22:00.04 | levi | goozbach: How'd you end up hitting ESC-b, anyway? |
| 22:00.24 | dmdavis | Tene: everyone always says that emacs commands are complex... |
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| 22:00.51 | elg | ~rlart |
| 22:00.52 | ibot | plops nick125 into a giant vat of herring |
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| 22:01.10 | elg | who let the sun in the window?! |
| 22:01.23 | elg | is being blinded by the sun bouncing off his white keyboard |
| 22:01.28 | levi | Emacs also has an interactive help system with an appropos command to help you find commands, and then some other help commands that let you look up keybindings and see what commands they're associated with. |
| 22:01.44 | elg | oh, it's emacs' fault |
| 22:02.01 | elg | i should have known |
| 22:02.38 | Tene | elg: didn't you know? You prefer bright environments. It doesn't matter what makes you feel better, or what's more comfortable for you, you really actually like bright environments better. |
| 22:03.06 | elg | Tene: oh, and the sun is helping me out I suppose |
| 22:03.09 | elg | what a helpful sun |
| 22:03.11 | elg | now go away |
| 22:04.19 | elg | i should mention, for context, that outside my window is a nice little courtyard. Since the building is 2 tall stories high, this has meant that the sun doesn't actually get down to the ground, at least not on the south side of the courtyard where I am |
| 22:04.24 | elg | apparently not true in the summer though |
| 22:04.42 | elg | levi: I found this book in my library http://www.amazon.com/Functional-Programming-Practice-Bruce-Maclennan/dp/0201137445 |
| 22:04.54 | elg | gonna give it a look. The preface made me feel good |
| 22:05.34 | elg | ah good, the sun has moved enough to work again. cheers |
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| 22:08.24 | lakshmi | hey |
| 22:08.30 | lakshmi | ~hi |
| 22:08.31 | ibot | hello, lakshmi |
| 22:08.34 | lakshmi | oh it works |
| 22:10.14 | tensai | maquis: you should go have okonomiyaki at this place and let me know if it's any good. http://www.boomnoodle.com/v2/ |
| 22:10.17 | brac | [boom noodle :: our myboom is japanese cuisine.] |
| 22:11.08 | Sargun | ~ping |
| 22:11.09 | ibot | pong |
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| 22:32.42 | tensai | ~bonk mecworks |
| 22:32.45 | ibot | ACTION bonks mecworks over the head |
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| 22:38.28 | unum | hmmm pashdown is going to be on the radio with cannon tonight talking about cannon's national wireless idea |
| 22:48.03 | levi | elg: Wow, I've never seen less of a book available on Google Book Search. |
| 22:48.43 | levi | elg: It shows three inch-high strips of the text as a search result. |
| 22:50.41 | levi | I'd have to pay $30 or go to the BYU library to read it. |
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| 22:52.47 | whiteinge | unum: when and where? |
| 22:55.19 | unum | 8pm ksl nightside program 1160am and 102.7fm |
| 22:55.32 | whiteinge | ty |
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