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| 02:04.10 | elg | is not impressed with mythtv |
| 02:07.21 | tripzero | elisa ftw |
| 02:07.54 | elg | elisa? |
| 02:08.25 | tripzero | fluendo.org |
| 02:08.29 | elg | gstreamer? |
| 02:08.37 | elg | I'm supposed to be more impressed by gstreamer? |
| 02:08.42 | tripzero | heh, yeah, it uses gstreamer |
| 02:08.50 | tripzero | you have not heard of elisa? |
| 02:09.03 | elg | no I hadn't |
| 02:09.43 | tripzero | http://elisa.fluendo.com/ |
| 02:10.25 | elg | my needs are pretty simple. live tv for the stations my cpu can handle, "time shifting" with automatic transcoding to a non-HD format, and play videos that I downloaded from elsewhere |
| 02:11.01 | tripzero | hmm, i don't think elisa does recording |
| 02:11.06 | tripzero | ...yet |
| 02:11.42 | elg | ah, so it's more like what I was using freevo for before |
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| 02:47.13 | levi | elg: What are you finding non-impressive about mythtv? |
| 02:47.43 | elg | lots of little things, but the big one (at the moment anyay) is that it just don't work |
| 02:48.00 | elg | i captured the raw stream from the hdhr and played it in mplayer, 20% cpu |
| 02:48.10 | elg | myth can't watch the same station. unbearable stuttering |
| 02:48.40 | levi | Watching via live tv? |
| 02:48.50 | elg | yeah |
| 02:49.02 | levi | It's spooling to disk and playing back when you do that, which may account for some of the trouble. |
| 02:50.36 | levi | It may be that its decoder is also not very efficient. |
| 02:51.11 | elg | well, i just checked, it's only using 35% so it does sounds like disk i/o |
| 02:51.28 | elg | hmm. hdparm doesn't report anything about dma. does sata not use dma as such? |
| 02:51.43 | levi | I would assume it does. |
| 03:02.29 | levi | Perhaps there's a BIOS option controlling it? |
| 03:03.31 | levi | You may also be missing a driver for the specific controller or something. |
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| 03:11.15 | lakshmi | hey |
| 03:11.16 | lakshmi | ya'll |
| 03:11.19 | lakshmi | ~hi |
| 03:11.19 | ibot | hello, lakshmi |
| 03:11.26 | lakshmi | hi ibot how are you? |
| 03:13.59 | elg | ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133 |
| 03:14.05 | elg | so yeah, dma is on |
| 03:14.59 | elg | (that's from dmesg | grep -i dma) |
| 03:15.24 | elg | apparently hdparm can't set SATA stuff. Apparently DMA is enabled in the BIOS |
| 03:15.36 | elg | so there's that theory |
| 03:20.09 | levi | How's your memory usage doing? |
| 03:20.22 | elg | 7 megs of swap used |
| 03:22.07 | levi | How much is in the hd cache? |
| 03:23.23 | elg | 600M |
| 03:23.29 | levi | Hrm. |
| 03:23.45 | levi | Well, that's pretty mysterious. |
| 03:23.53 | levi | What's the load leve like when you're watching live tv? |
| 03:24.28 | elg | 1.4 |
| 03:24.53 | levi | Hrm. |
| 03:25.07 | elg | yeah |
| 03:25.21 | elg | only thing I can think of is maybe because myth doesn't support vidix |
| 03:25.31 | elg | but I don't remember mplayer having nearly this much trouble when it was using xv |
| 03:25.58 | levi | What video card? |
| 03:26.26 | elg | radeon 9000 |
| 03:26.35 | elg | iirc |
| 03:26.41 | elg | no, radeon 7000 |
| 03:29.34 | levi | Have you tried fiddling with the video options in the frontend setup? |
| 03:34.42 | elg | yeah |
| 03:34.55 | elg | just turned off deinterlace, chose x11 (since there's no xv support on this card) |
| 03:34.58 | elg | still stuttering |
| 03:37.29 | levi | Hrm, no xv support is bad. |
| 03:37.35 | levi | That's probably your problem. |
| 03:38.36 | levi | A cheap nvidia card would solve your problem, I think. |
| 03:39.24 | Sargun | Yeah. Nvidia Rocks |
| 03:39.28 | elg | probably |
| 03:40.22 | elg | i suppose cards that do onboard hd decoding are expensive? |
| 03:41.41 | levi | Not necessarily. |
| 03:42.05 | elg | hm, wikipedia is telling me OTA (ATSC) hdtv is mpeg2 |
| 03:42.07 | elg | is that right? |
| 03:42.20 | elg | I reckon finding one with mpeg2 decoder support is easy |
| 03:42.26 | findlay | that sounds right |
| 03:42.39 | elg | i thought hdtv used h.264 |
| 03:42.45 | findlay | hm |
| 03:42.52 | nick125 | Nope, usualy mpeg2 |
| 03:44.04 | levi | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XvMC |
| 03:44.31 | RyanE | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XvMC |
| 03:44.36 | levi | hdtv standards have been around since before h.264 was common, IIRC. |
| 03:44.45 | RyanE | oops. |
| 03:44.55 | RyanE | yeah, h.264 is pretty new |
| 03:45.18 | levi | And the hdtv specs have been around for a lot longer than it seems. |
| 03:46.59 | levi | I think any of the recent nVidia cards will work for you, even one of the cheap ones with no fan. |
| 03:47.05 | levi | Which is ideal, really. |
| 03:47.21 | levi | Do you have PCIE? |
| 03:47.40 | RyanE | That's what I have, a fanless Nvidia card, only on AGP, but works fine. |
| 03:48.14 | levi | I was only asking because I got a PCIE one for $20 or so, IIRC. |
| 03:48.39 | elg | yeah, that's ideal |
| 03:52.32 | levi | They made some super-cheap ones aimed at people upgrading to Vista. |
| 03:54.14 | RyanE | levi: so you're saying something good came of Vista? :) |
| 03:55.53 | levi | I guess you could say that. :) |
| 03:57.10 | elg | i could swap out the ATI with the NVIDIA on the desktop, but then I couldn't really fly. :) |
| 03:57.24 | levi | Boy, what a difference a reboot made for this laptop. |
| 03:58.06 | levi | After a month or two of running Windows with Linux in a vmware instance, with firefox going in both... |
| 03:58.52 | elg | cheapest one on newegg is $25 |
| 03:59.00 | elg | think I can do better? |
| 03:59.07 | levi | Not significantly. |
| 03:59.14 | levi | Unless you find one with free shipping or something. |
| 03:59.29 | levi | BTW, I got my new power supply today. |
| 04:00.27 | RyanE | The one I bought was $30 through a local retailer, a year ago. |
| 04:03.47 | findlay | just bought a new Pioneer DVD drive for $30 today |
| 04:12.32 | findlay | ~random |
| 04:25.38 | elg | ~rlart |
| 04:25.39 | ibot | slams nearn against a large cement Tux |
| 04:37.34 | Supaplex | ~rlart |
| 04:37.34 | ibot | does a little 'dpkg -P tensai' action |
| 04:44.37 | levi | Mmm, gnome-do |
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| 04:51.11 | dilvie | supaplex |
| 04:51.56 | Supaplex | yo |
| 04:54.24 | levi | By any chance, has anyone here had granite countertops installed? |
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| 05:02.38 | elg | no, but my dad has a granite pizza stone |
| 05:02.46 | elg | heavy |
| 05:02.58 | elg | and we're not sure it's not going to just crack one of these days |
| 05:03.04 | levi | Yeah, granite is heavy. |
| 05:03.10 | levi | Why would it crack? |
| 05:03.26 | elg | not sure if granite likes thermal cycling |
| 05:03.46 | elg | i.e. does it have moisture inside |
| 05:03.49 | levi | It's igneous rock |
| 05:04.08 | elg | good point |
| 05:04.11 | elg | so probably it won't |
| 05:04.17 | levi | Should be fine. :) |
| 05:04.23 | elg | i'm glad someone was paying attention in geology ;-) |
| 05:04.56 | levi | That's one of the reasons it makes such a nice countertop. |
| 05:05.12 | levi | Putting a hot pot or whatever on it won't hurt it. |
| 05:06.03 | levi | And it's harder than steel, so it won't get scratched up. |
| 05:06.24 | levi | And it harbors less bacteria. |
| 05:06.35 | levi | Plus it looks really nice. |
| 05:12.53 | levi | Anyway, I'll bet it makes a great pizza stone once it gets up to temp. |
| 05:13.34 | elg | ya |
| 05:14.10 | elg | incidentally I never finished ranting about myth, but good enough for now |
| 05:17.09 | elg | configuration in db - iffy. not leveraging existing tools that do the job better (nih syndrome). C++. |
| 05:17.20 | elg | but featurewise, I am impressed |
| 05:17.30 | elg | so it's a bit like asterisk in that respect |
| 05:24.21 | levi | Yeah. |
| 05:24.51 | levi | Kind of a mess, but with enough momentum that it'd be hard to unseat it. |
| 05:28.14 | elg | i suppose all of the good arhcitects are too busy architecting important code and it's up to the mediocre but enthusiastic (with lots of time) to pioneer the wacky ideas |
| 05:28.55 | elg | then by the time the ideas don't seem wacky, too late |
| 05:29.43 | levi | Well, the good architects are likely being paid lots of money to build things for companies and don't have a lot of time to hack on cool toys. |
| 05:29.54 | elg | right, that's what I tried to say :) |
| 05:30.16 | levi | They may not be *important* things, just stuff people with money want made. :) |
| 05:30.42 | elg | I meant to emphasize/disclaim 'important" |
| 05:31.04 | elg | althought o be fair, it is important |
| 05:31.12 | elg | important to the architect, because that's where the money comes from |
| 05:31.29 | elg | to the hacker without a revenue stream, important is what is fun |
| 05:32.41 | elg | to the grad student, important is that which he is avoiding |
| 05:32.46 | nick125 | probably should update his pymtp bindings and do a release |
| 05:32.53 | levi | Heh. |
| 05:36.25 | elg | midnight oil tonight |
| 05:36.56 | elg | 7 papers to summarize |
| 05:42.33 | nearn | I dont like ibot |
| 05:42.57 | nearn | slaming me agenst a cement tux |
| 05:46.08 | elg | ~rlart |
| 05:46.08 | ibot | takes herlo to the vet for a "special" visit |
| 05:49.11 | nearn | ~rlart |
| 05:49.12 | ibot | hits jjolly with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha |
| 06:06.06 | elg | ~tgif |
| 06:06.07 | ibot | tgif is, like, Thank Goodness It's Friday! or, some say it has something to do with a vector-based draw tool at http://bourbon.cs.umd.edu:8001/tgif/ |
| 06:11.31 | levi | elg: Good luck to you. |
| 06:12.00 | levi | I'm >< this close to being really screwed with the assignments I'm backed up on. |
| 06:12.33 | levi | I got my paper and presentation out of the way today, but I still have to finish implementing virtual memory in GeekOS and get my compiler finished in the next week. |
| 06:12.46 | levi | And my parents are in town this weekend for my son's blessing. |
| 06:20.49 | elg | you need more luck. my deadline is self-imposed :) |
| 06:24.12 | levi | Heh. |
| 06:24.25 | levi | My deadline is pretty much the end of the semester now. |
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| 13:36.07 | elg | ~rlart |
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| 13:36.23 | elg | ~lart e the mcnabb |
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| 15:19.50 | Tene | http://revisionism.nl/ |
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| 15:26.30 | pr0le | Tene: I'm surprised the existence of global warming isn't in that list of conspiracy theories |
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| 15:33.46 | levi | Good morning. |
| 15:36.42 | trixtur | help msg |
| 15:37.01 | trixtur | oops |
| 15:37.04 | trixtur | :) |
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| 15:40.39 | levi | Hi, sjansen. |
| 15:41.13 | trixtur | Sorry I'm not more social...I'm still trying to figure out my IRC client. |
| 15:41.33 | elg | you type stuff |
| 15:41.36 | elg | and people make fun of you |
| 15:41.45 | trixtur | lol |
| 15:41.46 | elg | that's about all there is to irc ;-) |
| 15:41.57 | trixtur | in general yes |
| 15:42.02 | trixtur | ;) |
| 15:42.05 | encryptz | ~lart elg |
| 15:42.05 | ibot | cuts elg into thin stripes |
| 15:42.16 | levi | Ah, the joys of IRC. |
| 15:42.33 | sjansen | levi: Hi. |
| 15:43.07 | sjansen | ~greet trixtur |
| 15:43.08 | ibot | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on trixtur |
| 15:43.21 | trixtur | Oh thats cold |
| 15:44.38 | trixtur | I'd say IRC is pretty simple...using the client to its fullest potential is the hard part. |
| 15:45.22 | trixtur | Decriptor got me using this irssi client |
| 15:46.40 | elg | irssi rocks |
| 15:46.50 | elg | except that it's not very laptop-friendly |
| 15:47.07 | trixtur | I can see that :) |
| 15:48.00 | trixtur | So how do you join topics so I don't just flood this main area with my comments? |
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| 15:56.26 | goozbach | ibot: onjoin trixtur trixtur: read this. http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html |
| 15:56.26 | ibot | ok, goozbach |
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| 16:00.46 | sjansen | Silly goozbach trixtur's for kids. |
| 16:03.39 | decriptor | I warned trixtur that he will get picked on :) |
| 16:04.20 | trixtur | Thanks, and yes trix is for kids |
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| 16:07.19 | sinuhe | Compared to Red Hat kickstart files, autoyast XML files are insane. SUSE philosophy: Why do something simple, when you can do it three times more complicated? |
| 16:07.39 | goozbach | sinuhe: welcome to the insanity |
| 16:07.41 | decriptor | sinuhe: german engineering all the way |
| 16:08.01 | goozbach | sinuhe: have you ever wandered fully into /etc/ on a suse box? |
| 16:08.11 | goozbach | *shudders* from the memories. |
| 16:08.18 | decriptor | goozbach: its not that bad |
| 16:08.48 | decriptor | though it would be cool to diff it against other distros |
| 16:09.30 | sinuhe | Das ist so schwierig. |
| 16:09.51 | trixtur | Honestly in my opinion I've always found complicated to mean powerful |
| 16:10.27 | sinuhe | goozbach: The last version of SUSE that I installed (when it was still German, and SuSE) was 6.3. I had switched from Slackware (my first mistake), but it only last a couple versions before I was sick of it. |
| 16:11.01 | decriptor | I used to run slackware 7 years ago, didn't care for it so I'm not ever going back |
| 16:11.20 | decriptor | because there is no way its improved since then |
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| 16:11.22 | decriptor | :) |
| 16:16.22 | sinuhe | s/ly last/ly lasted/ |
| 16:19.53 | ^Migs^ | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/south_east/7341450.stm |
| 16:21.35 | levi | I started using Debian early on, and just stuck with it until a few versions into Ubuntu. |
| 16:23.42 | ^Migs^ | I switched from Debian to Ubuntu too |
| 16:23.48 | sinuhe | I found Debian's packaging policies to be over complicated, too much of a deviation from the source release, without the pay off of flexibility that they argued was the reason (that I remember). I learned the old bootstrapping way of GNU/Linux, and so found Slackware wonderfully flexible. |
| 16:24.25 | levi | Well, I started with SLS and Slackware, but Debian didn't exist yet then. |
| 16:25.01 | sinuhe | SLS I never saw. |
| 16:25.17 | levi | That was back in the days of piles of floppy disks. |
| 16:25.17 | sinuhe | I started right when ygdrasil died. |
| 16:26.16 | levi | I think you're missing some consonants in there. :) |
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| 16:26.40 | sinuhe | Yeah, yeah |
| 16:27.16 | sinuhe | s/yg/ygg/ |
| 16:27.18 | sinuhe | Better? |
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| 16:29.02 | goozbach | I started with mandrake 8.2 |
| 16:29.06 | sinuhe | Interesting that ibot didn't pick that up. |
| 16:29.15 | sinuhe | I remember Mandrake. I didn't like it. |
| 16:29.19 | sinuhe | Too graphical. |
| 16:29.20 | goozbach | well that's the first "sucess" I had |
| 16:29.29 | goozbach | I did "start" and fail with RH 5.1 |
| 16:29.38 | elg | so mandrake was your first kiss |
| 16:30.10 | elg | i feel sorry for you. otoh mandrake was kind of like a hot blonde ditz |
| 16:30.11 | sinuhe | I started with RH with 4.1, but didn't use it solidly until 6, when I installed it to my first laptop (a Toshiba P75) |
| 16:30.12 | elg | so maybe that's ok |
| 16:30.26 | sinuhe | elg: That sounds like a good description. |
| 16:30.39 | neybar | heh, I used to really like mandrake |
| 16:30.49 | elg | i used to really like a hot blonde ditz |
| 16:31.00 | goozbach | elg, it wasn't a bad first kiss |
| 16:31.01 | sinuhe | Slackware was my first kiss. I've never wanted something else. She's still mad at me for cheating on her with RH. |
| 16:32.12 | elg | goozbach: you could do worse. you could have kissed slackware |
| 16:32.16 | elg | look what it did to sinuhe |
| 16:32.58 | levi | Was anyone here using Linux during the big a.out to ELF switch? |
| 16:33.22 | elg | i don't think so |
| 16:33.35 | elg | but when I first started there was a lot of docs on that floating around still |
| 16:33.39 | sinuhe | Slackware's like a BSD chick dressed in slick red leather: not much that she's wearing, hot, smart, but sometimes you want to take her to dinner in public. :-) |
| 16:34.25 | levi | I never thought it was that attractive. |
| 16:34.49 | sinuhe | Who started this "kiss" analogy anyways? Bad elg, bad. |
| 16:35.18 | findlay | I don't kiss, sorry |
| 16:35.28 | levi | Poor findlay. |
| 16:36.49 | elg | ~pity findlay |
| 16:36.51 | ibot | I pity da fool findlay! |
| 16:37.34 | elg | my one regret about my love life is that I didn't kiss my first girlfriend |
| 16:37.57 | goozbach | elg: ditto |
| 16:38.11 | elg | forms a club |
| 16:38.14 | ^Migs^ | weird, someone...I have no idea who it is...started IMing me on MSN in Spanish. |
| 16:38.19 | ^Migs^ | I asked them if they like burritos. |
| 16:38.27 | findlay | haha |
| 16:38.36 | elg | say, "te gustas?" |
| 16:38.44 | sontek | My one regret is leaving Jessica, she was/is perfect, and now i'm stuck with a n00b ! |
| 16:38.56 | ^Migs^ | pfffahahaha |
| 16:39.01 | neybar | does anyone know how to force vim to edit a file with expandtab set? #vim:et: isn't being respected |
| 16:39.04 | ^Migs^ | I think I know what that means |
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| 16:39.28 | findlay | neybar: finally! I think I'm having the same problem |
| 16:39.50 | elg | vim won't edit a file with expandtab set? |
| 16:39.56 | neybar | it's driving me bonkers I'm maintaining two code sets, one with tabs, one with out. |
| 16:39.59 | elg | or it won't set expandtab when you think it should? |
| 16:40.01 | findlay | neybar: it only does that for me with autoindent and/or copyindent |
| 16:40.02 | findlay | set |
| 16:40.25 | neybar | if I do an explicit :set et then it is fine |
| 16:40.35 | findlay | hm |
| 16:40.44 | elg | is the modeline at the end or beginning, not in the middle? |
| 16:40.51 | elg | is vim configured to respect modelines? |
| 16:41.05 | neybar | I've tried it at the bottom of the file, and at the top |
| 16:41.06 | elg | some distros turn off modelines for lame security paranoia reasons |
| 16:41.10 | findlay | ~x en it do you like burritos? |
| 16:41.18 | findlay | ~x en es do you like burritos? |
| 16:41.19 | sontek | neybar: I do it on filetype |
| 16:41.27 | sontek | neybar: for python I use et and for C# I don't |
| 16:41.46 | elg | ¡gusto de burrito! |
| 16:42.13 | findlay | prefers to set language specific settings in ~/.vim/ftplugin/ |
| 16:42.19 | elg | ¿te gustas? - literally, do you like yourself |
| 16:42.29 | neybar | yeah, filetype would be great, but I'm having the problem between 2 different python code bases |
| 16:43.01 | findlay | well you might be able to distinguish by file path in vimscript :) |
| 16:43.10 | elg | it's a plausible n00b mistake, and one which could go either way. the n00b could be asking do you like me, or do you like <whatever you might have been taling about> |
| 16:43.27 | elg | neybar: vim does have some kind of local .vimrc facility |
| 16:43.30 | elg | you might look into that |
| 16:43.36 | elg | it's not as flexible as I'd like, but it's an option |
| 16:43.40 | neybar | hmm |
| 16:43.45 | elg | but modelines should work |
| 16:44.25 | neybar | I'm pretty close to changing all the tabs in the one set of code to spaces, except that it trashes cvs annotate... |
| 16:44.29 | elg | try set modeline in your .vimrc |
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| 16:47.55 | sontek | neybar: we switched to spaces from tabs and we just told everyone to do annotate on revisions before that commit |
| 16:48.01 | sontek | neybar: and then after it for specific changes |
| 16:48.05 | sontek | it worked well |
| 16:48.21 | neybar | I might be running into a modeline issue in general #vim:ts=8 isn't working either. |
| 16:50.15 | neybar | I found it... you need a space before "vim": # vim:et:ts=8 |
| 16:50.41 | sontek | what are you expecting it to? ts and and sw are used in different areas |
| 16:51.08 | ^Migs^ | http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/11/clinton-laughs-off-colombia-questions/ |
| 16:51.23 | neybar | I was just using ts to see if my modeline was working. I really just need "et" |
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| 17:00.33 | ^Migs^ | hahaha |
| 17:00.34 | ^Migs^ | http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=3058039 |
| 17:00.38 | ^Migs^ | The man who tried to rob two businesses yesterday didn't threaten anyone with a gun but instead used a needle. |
| 17:03.22 | nick125 | .. |
| 17:09.46 | levi | Grr, how do I clear this stupid interrupt? |
| 17:19.05 | elg | napalm |
| 17:19.46 | findlay | is it time for scorched 3D? |
| 17:24.45 | nick125 | needs to install a music player |
| 17:24.48 | nick125 | Any suggestions? |
| 17:28.14 | findlay | mplayer :) |
| 17:29.08 | nick125 | findlay: I've been using that, but I want something that can least support playlists |
| 17:29.16 | nick125 | (without having to write m3u files) |
| 17:29.31 | unum | gave up and started using xmms |
| 17:29.45 | nick125 | I tried using Audacious, but I didn't like it. |
| 17:30.43 | findlay | amarok |
| 17:31.04 | nick125 | findlay: I'd prefer something GTK, as I don't want to install Qt and all of the KDE support libraries. |
| 17:31.18 | nick125 | debates on trying exaile again |
| 17:31.24 | jsmith | nick125: Rhythmbox maybe? |
| 17:34.17 | nick125 | jsmith: hmmm |
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| 17:46.27 | macnewbold | ibot: what are you talking about? and in what language? |
| 17:47.15 | macnewbold | nick125: I've liked XMMS (v1 I think, not the newer one) - it's kind of a "winamp" workalike, if you remember that one |
| 17:47.29 | macnewbold | simple yet effective, and easy to bind to keyboard shortcuts in my window manager |
| 17:50.42 | findlay | macnewbold: it's upside down |
| 17:51.13 | macnewbold | ah, nice |
| 17:51.17 | findlay | I guess the unicode consortium decided that upsidedown letters were important, but only the plain latin ones |
| 17:51.21 | macnewbold | how did jbot invert his creme brulee? |
| 17:51.37 | findlay | what if you wanted to print an upsidedown Japanese character? |
| 17:51.43 | macnewbold | no kidding |
| 17:51.48 | findlay | duh |
| 17:51.52 | macnewbold | japanese makes even less sense upside down though |
| 17:52.13 | findlay | that kind of character layout should be decided at a higher level than unicode |
| 17:52.17 | findlay | IMO |
| 17:56.27 | macnewbold | right, then you could do upside down hebrew too, and still be able to choose right to left, top to bottom, or whatever |
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| 18:23.03 | nick125 | Hmm...most programs don't seem to like it when files disappear |
| 18:23.45 | findlay | heh |
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| 19:27.39 | maquis | wonders what ever happened to knobtweakers... |
| 19:30.55 | sjansen | It was hacked by robots. |
| 19:31.11 | sjansen | ~tweak maquis |
| 19:31.13 | maquis | ? |
| 19:31.16 | maquis | ~lart sjansen |
| 19:31.16 | ibot | executes killall -KILL sjansen |
| 19:31.26 | maquis | sjansen: how's life? |
| 19:32.55 | sjansen | Life? Thanks to you I've just been reaped. |
| 19:33.52 | sjansen | And it's not as bad as one might think. There's something relaxing about the warm electric glow of an unused memory pool. |
| 19:34.57 | sjansen | http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:Dm1eFo7j104J:www.knobtweakers.net/+knobtweakers&hl=en&client=firefox-a&gl=us&strip=1 |
| 19:38.23 | Sargun | uh |
| 19:47.07 | ^Migs^ | hahahaha http://break.com/index/worst-rap-battle-ever.html |
| 19:48.13 | nick125 | is debating on getting a KPC for his parents |
| 19:49.51 | maquis | ? |
| 19:51.54 | macnewbold | ~seen rsimpkins |
| 19:51.56 | ibot | rsimpkins is currently on #utah (11d 13h 39m 40s). Has said a total of 151 messages. Is idling for 1d 19h 29m 3s, last said: ',.;:*^ This is a subliminal message. You will come to PLUG tonight at 7:30pm. You will not go anywhere else. ^*:;.,'. |
| 19:53.14 | sjansen | ! |
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| 19:54.55 | tuxd00d | Any of you know a guy by the name of "Eliott Spencer" |
| 19:55.34 | findlay | tuxd00d: he used to hang out in #utaug |
| 19:55.35 | sinuhe | What does it mean when it I edit my .emacs file with vi to add #utah back to my list of automated logons? |
| 19:55.42 | sinuhe | (I use emacs/erc for IRC.) |
| 19:56.12 | findlay | sinuhe: you can't live without my wry witticisms? |
| 19:56.35 | sinuhe | lol |
| 19:56.51 | findlay | s/my/sjansen's/ |
| 19:57.01 | tuxd00d | findlay: thanks |
| 19:57.09 | findlay | tuxd00d: yup |
| 19:57.12 | sinuhe | Hmmmm...that changes the equation. I have to put up with his witicisms as it is... |
| 19:57.31 | findlay | so your onjoin is now in doubt :-/ |
| 19:57.33 | sinuhe | returns to vi to add plonk foo for removing sjansen... |
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| 19:59.31 | nick125 | Either a KPC or a custom-built box for my parents |
| 20:00.24 | sinuhe | ~seen sinuhe |
| 20:00.26 | ibot | sinuhe is currently on #utah (5h 56m 11s). Has said a total of 23 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen sinuhe'. |
| 20:07.09 | ^Migs^ | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ABSOLUTELY-STUNNING-ERECT-FOX-WITH-LAMP-WALKING-STICK_W0QQitemZ150233143642QQihZ005QQcategoryZ67212QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD10VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m127 |
| 20:09.35 | Sargun | nick125, heya |
| 20:09.36 | Sargun | sup |
| 20:11.17 | tuxd00d | findlay: do you know his nick? |
| 20:13.47 | sinuhe | findlay: The irony was my using vi to edit an emacs file, not my automating the #utah sign on (which I used to do with irssi and previous to that ircII). |
| 20:14.29 | findlay | tuxd00d: it was Elliot |
| 20:17.35 | sjansen | ET phone Elliot. |
| 20:22.39 | nick125 | Sargun: hey |
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| 21:23.54 | mrpull-lt | sweeet. a lady is going nuts her. |
| 21:24.01 | mrpull-lt | s/her/here/ |
| 21:24.13 | mrpull-lt | stranded in CLT |
| 21:24.16 | mrpull-lt | with a baby |
| 21:24.33 | mrpull-lt | sucks for her, but her reaction may get her in trouble |
| 21:26.51 | mrpull-lt | hrrrmmm... pitching a fit because she isn't getting TWO seats for one ticket? |
| 21:26.59 | mrpull-lt | buy TWO if you want two |
| 21:31.15 | mrpull-lt | booo hooo... security took your water |
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| 21:50.07 | elg | ~rlart |
| 21:50.08 | ibot | pries nick125's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to nick125 |
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| 23:04.40 | sjansen | Anyone know what magic incantation will convince aspell to use a personal dictionary in a non-standard location? |
| 23:35.59 | macnewbold | sjansen: with ispell, there's a -p option to give a path to a non-standard dictionary, I'd guess aspell has the same or similar |
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