| 00:00.00 | nick125 | It isn't a 2GB limit, per say, it's just an anything above 1GB limit because the way they compiled the kernel |
| 00:00.12 | keldwud | several results down I found mention of open source community? |
| 00:00.31 | keldwud | open source planet, that's it |
| 00:00.50 | keldwud | nick125: keep me updated on your 2GB adventure |
| 00:01.08 | keldwud | I'm interested because if it works out, I may purchase a 2GB stick |
| 00:01.28 | nick125 | I'm running Gentoo on my eee, not the default OS, btw. |
| 00:02.19 | keldwud | oh n/m the slcnews twitter just looks like an open communications system for slc news/events |
| 00:02.50 | keldwud | ahh, okay. I plan on sticking with the default xandros |
| 00:03.20 | nick125 | But as for the difficulty of the install, it took longer to get the "warranty voided" label off than the rest of the installation. |
| 00:03.40 | keldwud | yeah I had the same problem |
| 00:08.08 | nick125 | keldwud: Mine broke into pieces (the label) |
| 00:09.19 | keldwud | sucks if we want to get any hardware support |
| 00:09.31 | keldwud | can't believe that adding memory voids the warranty |
| 00:09.35 | nick125 | keldwud: It doesn't. |
| 00:09.52 | keldwud | oh good. |
| 00:10.01 | nick125 | http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/12/11/asus-breaking-eee-warranty-seal-doesnt-void-warranty |
| 00:10.02 | keldwud | because I could see this thing lasting me a few years |
| 00:10.11 | keldwud | oh nice linkage there :) |
| 00:11.47 | keldwud | so before I purchased my eee, I was also checking out the Everex cloud pc as a possible contender |
| 00:11.56 | nearn | taht is some good news nick125 |
| 00:12.24 | nearn | I almost bout an everex but I went with a 13" macbook instead. |
| 00:12.48 | keldwud | the whole cloud computing thing really attracted me the most |
| 00:12.55 | nearn | me too. |
| 00:13.08 | keldwud | but they didn't hit the market soon enough for me. |
| 00:13.14 | nearn | But I had the money for a mac and I want to give os x 10.5 a chance. |
| 00:13.52 | keldwud | and now that I have my eee, I can really see how awesome their design for the touchpad and buttons in the upper corners could be, but only if you are standing. lame if you are sitting but that's what the usb ports are for :) |
| 00:14.07 | keldwud | yeah if you have the money, powerbook is the way to go |
| 00:14.17 | keldwud | I'm a budget kind of guy |
| 00:14.22 | nearn | I almost got a powerbook |
| 00:14.35 | nearn | but I wanted some thing smaller so the macbook was perfect for me. |
| 00:16.18 | keldwud | I thought there was a 12" powerbook |
| 00:17.10 | nearn | I did not see it when I went on a whim for my mac |
| 00:17.13 | keldwud | oh wait, powerbook is discontinued then? |
| 00:17.23 | keldwud | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerBook_G4 |
| 00:17.31 | keldwud | yeah the 12 inch was the one I always wanted |
| 00:17.41 | nick125 | the cloudbook is retarded |
| 00:17.46 | keldwud | because it was the smallest, but then 7inch pc's came out |
| 00:18.03 | keldwud | nick125: did you get a chance to see one? or you just didn't like the specs? |
| 00:18.14 | nick125 | the touchpad for the cloudbook is about the size of your thumb and is located in the upper right corner |
| 00:18.38 | keldwud | yeah that was attractive to me actually |
| 00:18.44 | nick125 | I haven't used one in person |
| 00:18.55 | nick125 | It wasn't to me. |
| 00:19.02 | keldwud | when I am holding my eee, I can imagine it being easier to hold like the cloud when standing |
| 00:19.21 | keldwud | it's unique for sure |
| 00:19.37 | keldwud | and completely useless if you dont have a mouse and are at a desk or on your lap |
| 00:20.30 | keldwud | but it *is* totally gay that they call themselves the "alternative" pc company |
| 00:21.05 | nick125 | If that's the "alternative", then I think I'll stick with the mainstream. |
| 00:21.11 | keldwud | haha yeah |
| 00:21.19 | keldwud | I *do* like the gOS idea though |
| 00:24.06 | nick125 | Isn't gOS' thing that it's supposed to be mainly webapps? |
| 00:24.25 | keldwud | yeah |
| 00:24.35 | keldwud | but I like distributed computing |
| 00:24.45 | nick125 | What good is that going to do you on a laptop unless you have wifi or a cellular card? |
| 00:25.06 | keldwud | oh the cloud pc doesn't have wifi? |
| 00:25.24 | nick125 | I think it does, but not everyone has wifi 24/7 around them. |
| 00:25.27 | nick125 | Least I don't. |
| 00:25.45 | keldwud | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOS_(Linux_distribution) |
| 00:25.53 | keldwud | salt lake city has wifi everywhere |
| 00:26.44 | keldwud | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing |
| 00:27.09 | nick125 | The gBook looks interesting though |
| 00:27.23 | nick125 | for people who want cheap laptops |
| 00:27.44 | keldwud | I'm glad I went with the asus eee though. |
| 00:27.54 | nick125 | me too |
| 00:27.56 | keldwud | the community that has sprung up around the eee is daunting. |
| 00:28.04 | keldwud | and *huge* |
| 00:28.19 | nick125 | I like it because it's small enough I can take everywhere |
| 00:28.32 | keldwud | I've earmarked the eee as one of the hot trends and fashion statements of 2008 |
| 00:29.26 | nick125 | I get a lot of comments about my eee, too. |
| 00:29.38 | keldwud | oh yeah, that's the funnest part. |
| 00:29.46 | keldwud | not the comments from "real" computer users thouhg |
| 00:29.52 | keldwud | the comments from the general public |
| 00:30.01 | nick125 | The real computer users are like "is that an eee? cool" |
| 00:30.41 | keldwud | oh I meant the ones that are like "4G of space? and only 512megs of ram? what the hell do you do with it? play pong?" ;) |
| 00:31.04 | nick125 | "I have 2GB of RAM, b*tch." |
| 00:31.09 | keldwud | but the rest are all on board, I've seen about 3 new eee pc's at my work after questions |
| 00:31.11 | keldwud | haha nick |
| 00:31.15 | keldwud | yeah I have 1G |
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| 00:40.13 | nick125 | lol |
| 00:42.49 | nick125 | I love my eee. |
| 00:44.04 | nick125 | I still need to fix my wifi |
| 00:46.47 | keldwud | I'm in love with my eee as much as I was in love with my DS and my wii |
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| 00:49.32 | nick125 | I think the Atheros card in the eee is the achilles heal of the eee. |
| 00:50.22 | keldwud | the sound driver is pretty awful too. |
| 00:50.39 | nick125 | I didn't have any problems with the sound driver..I haven't tried to use the mic, though. |
| 00:51.02 | keldwud | I've noticed choppy sound when playing video and sound |
| 00:51.18 | keldwud | it has gotten better since I have 1gig of memory though |
| 00:51.24 | keldwud | I think it is because of the shared video memory |
| 00:51.57 | keldwud | and the onboard mic fails because of the fan |
| 00:52.10 | keldwud | the fan vibrates through the whole case and you can hear it in the mic |
| 00:53.19 | keldwud | oh wait. |
| 00:53.27 | keldwud | I just checked it and it's not bad anymore |
| 00:53.35 | keldwud | maybe it is when the ac adapter is plugged in |
| 00:53.48 | keldwud | oh nevermind, there it is |
| 00:55.31 | keldwud | hmm, I wonder how opera handles file transfers for irc |
| 00:55.40 | keldwud | did it send you a request nick125? |
| 01:01.55 | nick125 | no |
| 01:01.59 | nick125 | er, yeah |
| 01:06.38 | keldwud | cool, wasn't sure if opera could do them or not |
| 01:07.21 | nick125 | wishes ath5k would support the atheros card in the eee :( |
| 01:07.34 | keldwud | aww |
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| 01:07.55 | nick125 | I'm a bit tired of the binary patch for madwifi busienss. |
| 01:07.57 | nick125 | *business |
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| 01:17.26 | nick125 | I was thinking of replacing the wireless card with a better-supported atheros card |
| 01:17.42 | keldwud | I like the strength on this card |
| 01:17.47 | keldwud | it is decent |
| 01:18.08 | nick125 | My main problem with the card is the drivers |
| 01:18.25 | keldwud | shit, time for work. |
| 01:18.28 | keldwud | waves |
| 01:18.36 | nick125 | keldwud: later |
| 01:18.45 | nick125 | w00t |
| 01:18.49 | nick125 | this revision works |
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| 02:05.42 | sontek | Cyberkruz: hey =) |
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| 02:31.45 | Cyberkruz | hi2u |
| 02:31.46 | Cyberkruz | :) |
| 02:33.06 | findlay | just got back from running up the mountainside |
| 02:33.11 | findlay | it was fun |
| 02:33.15 | findlay | and hard |
| 02:34.32 | fozzmoo | findlay: Did you run over any dumb girls on the way up or down? |
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| 02:36.59 | findlay | fozzmoo: I saw some but they stayed mostly out of my way, with their boyfriends |
| 02:37.23 | fozzmoo | pity |
| 02:37.32 | findlay | heh |
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| 03:31.38 | elg | so hdhomerun's flyer says cable must carry local channels unencrypted by law |
| 03:31.42 | elg | why is that? |
| 03:31.52 | tensai | because somebody wrote a good law? |
| 03:32.22 | elg | does that mean the law sanctions intercepting someone else's cable for just the local channels? |
| 03:33.07 | levi | Heh. |
| 03:33.32 | levi | BTW, my hdhomerun's power supply just went flaky. |
| 03:33.36 | fozzmoo | uh oh |
| 03:33.45 | elg | how long has you had it? |
| 03:33.46 | levi | I expect they'll replace it for free, though. |
| 03:34.17 | levi | 8 or 9 months, probably? |
| 03:34.35 | levi | It's a standard 5V 2A wall wart. |
| 03:35.00 | levi | The hdhomerun unit itself is just fine. |
| 03:35.24 | elg | so is it the coolest thing since vcr? |
| 03:35.29 | fozzmoo | In my head I hear you emphasizing "fine" |
| 03:35.50 | levi | fozzmoo: I swapped power supplies and it started working normally again. |
| 03:36.01 | levi | elg: It's indeed way cool. |
| 03:36.23 | levi | elg: You can watch TV on any computer in your network that can run VLC! |
| 03:36.30 | fozzmoo | That's dang cool. |
| 03:36.33 | levi | And it also integrates with a ton of media centers. |
| 03:36.50 | elg | levi: does it multicast? that would be interesting |
| 03:36.59 | levi | I don't think it does. |
| 03:37.15 | elg | well i wouldn't much expect it did, but there's always the chance. |
| 03:37.22 | elg | multicast continues to languish in obscurity |
| 03:37.31 | elg | still, this would be the perfect multicast situation |
| 03:37.40 | levi | Multicast is an integral part of EthernetAV. |
| 03:37.57 | fozzmoo | Can it only do one stream per tuner? |
| 03:38.34 | levi | fozzmoo: Each tuner can only stream out one channel, but it can send the full channel out instead of just the selected subchannel. |
| 03:38.53 | levi | As long as you've got a client that can demux it properly. |
| 03:38.57 | fozzmoo | That sounds cool... |
| 03:39.08 | fozzmoo | I don't know anything (yet) about HD... but that certainly sounds cool. |
| 03:39.16 | levi | MythTV doesn't support that feature yet. |
| 03:39.20 | fozzmoo | How much bandwidth does that take, anyhow? |
| 03:39.35 | fozzmoo | What codec does it stream with? |
| 03:40.07 | levi | It basically extracts the native MPEG from the broadcast and streams that. |
| 03:40.20 | levi | It doesn't decode or transcode or anything like that. |
| 03:40.58 | fozzmoo | Oh wow. |
| 03:41.14 | fozzmoo | unadulterated HD streaming. |
| 03:41.17 | fozzmoo | shivers |
| 03:41.19 | levi | Yeah. |
| 03:44.51 | levi | If you think that's cool, you should see the stuff I'm working on at work. :) |
| 03:46.10 | tensai | levi: send us a url :) |
| 03:46.26 | fozzmoo | You can't talk about it? |
| 03:46.37 | levi | Well, there are details that I can't talk about. |
| 03:46.46 | fozzmoo | But generally... you're... what? |
| 03:47.06 | levi | We're involved in the EthernetAV standards. |
| 03:47.11 | tensai | fozzmoo: he can't give you the exact value of its awesomeness, but it's somewhere between 7 and 10 |
| 03:47.15 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 03:47.55 | levi | It's essentially turning ethernet into a full-featured media transport mechanism. |
| 03:48.04 | fozzmoo | I think that's really cool. It's about time musicians gave up 1/4-inch, XLR, and MIDI cables and went to something... like twisted pair. |
| 03:48.21 | levi | I mean, clearly it can already transport media, but now it will be able to replace stuff like HDMI. |
| 03:48.48 | fozzmoo | Was it Gibson that came out with the guitar that had an ethernet jack in it? |
| 03:49.09 | levi | Yup. My boss has one. :) |
| 03:49.16 | levi | It's pretty. |
| 03:49.19 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 03:49.54 | levi | That's not what we're working on, though. It's a proprietary protocol, not standard ethernet. |
| 03:50.16 | fozzmoo | The Gibson guitar doesn't conform to any specs? |
| 03:50.31 | fozzmoo | lame! |
| 03:50.48 | levi | Heh, the job offer letter for the CTO of Harman International, Dr. Geiger, is online as part of some SEC filing. |
| 03:50.59 | levi | He makes $812k. |
| 03:51.39 | levi | I met him a couple of days ago. |
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| 04:41.14 | tensai | ~rlart |
| 04:41.15 | ibot | cuts mrpull-x into thin stripes |
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| 04:50.34 | Supaplex | *yawn* |
| 05:22.13 | elg | levi: so who should I buy it from? |
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| 05:41.14 | tensai | elg: I ordered mine from cyberestore. they had free shipping. |
| 06:12.57 | levi | I think I got mine from them, too. |
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| 13:34.41 | goozbach | anyone here have a treo with windows mobile? |
| 13:35.24 | keldwud | ew |
| 13:35.29 | keldwud | ;) |
| 13:35.41 | keldwud | what's the opposite of om nom nom nom? |
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| 14:59.23 | Tene | Anyone in here planning on attending yapc::na? |
| 14:59.28 | Tene | harasses fozzmoo. |
| 14:59.50 | fozzmoo | blinks |
| 14:59.56 | fozzmoo | Chicago? |
| 14:59.59 | Tene | Yeah. |
| 15:00.04 | fozzmoo | When is it again? |
| 15:00.13 | fozzmoo | June? |
| 15:00.14 | Tene | June something |
| 15:00.32 | fozzmoo | I should think about that soon if I'm gonna, huh? |
| 15:00.41 | Tene | Yeah. That's what I was just thinking. |
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| 15:09.00 | ^Migs^ | http://www.oovoo.com |
| 15:15.44 | tensai | ~random |
| 15:16.22 | jsmith | ~rot13 gvzevxre |
| 15:16.22 | ibot | timriker |
| 15:22.18 | fozzmoo | http://education.zdnet.com/?p=1602 |
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| 15:28.47 | elg | well I done did it |
| 15:28.58 | levi | elg: Ordered an hdhomerun? |
| 15:29.03 | elg | yeah |
| 15:29.16 | elg | now what am I going to do with that coupon when it comes? :) |
| 15:29.31 | levi | BTW, a rep from their company responded to me regarding my power supply issue on #hdhomerun here. |
| 15:29.50 | levi | Apparently it's only happened to a few people, and they promptly send replacements. |
| 15:29.51 | elg | i suppose getting an analog adapter will allow me to record two things and watch another channel |
| 15:30.01 | tensai | elg: don't worry. your hdhomerun will get there long before the coupon |
| 15:30.04 | elg | good to hear |
| 15:30.09 | levi | elg: Do you only have one TV? |
| 15:30.11 | elg | tensai: yeah, I'm thinking so :) |
| 15:30.14 | elg | yeah only one tv |
| 15:30.23 | elg | though with the hdhomerun, i guess you could count 3 ;-) |
| 15:30.28 | elg | desktop and laptop |
| 15:30.29 | levi | Heh. |
| 15:31.03 | levi | Is it an HD-capable TV? |
| 15:31.07 | tensai | elg: at some point we're going to buy an hdtv and then move the analog tv to our bedroom, so I think the converter will still be useful |
| 15:31.07 | elg | no |
| 15:31.39 | levi | I've got an HD tv with a built-in tuner, an HD monitor with no tuner, and 2 analog TVs. |
| 15:31.45 | elg | that's true, it'll be good to have the analog adapter to go with the tv or else the tv will be essentially incomplete |
| 15:32.10 | fozzmoo | I, for one, am looking forward to having a good reason to chuck the analog TV. :) |
| 15:32.12 | levi | Well, I guess the HD monitor has an analog tuner, but that doesn't count for much. |
| 15:32.40 | levi | Well, I would love to not have to haul the analog TVs around anymore or have them take up space. |
| 15:32.50 | levi | But my wife refuses to part with them. |
| 15:33.31 | levi | There's still no TV in the kitchen, living room, or any of the 3 bathrooms, so we still have more to aquire. :P |
| 15:34.03 | tensai | levi: tell her you took them to a nice TV farm and they're running around happily playing with other TVs |
| 15:34.20 | RyanE | heh |
| 15:49.16 | levi | WTF, a new Dune movie in the works? |
| 15:49.56 | RyanE | yeah, because the first one was so commercially successful. :) |
| 15:50.38 | levi | And this one is supposed to be closer to the book. |
| 15:54.27 | levi | More WTF: Hydrogen peroxide plus Tang is supposed to be the explosive that banned all liquids from airlines?! |
| 15:55.25 | tensai | hydrogen peroxide, in a concentrated state, is quite explosive. I haven't figured out the tang bit though. |
| 15:58.30 | elg | orange explosives are more interesting |
| 15:59.00 | elg | they could have just checked people's lips for tang stains |
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| 16:10.21 | eggyknap | Much nicer |
| 16:10.44 | eggyknap | (Crème Brûlée! vs Creme Brulee!) |
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| 16:21.15 | jsmith | levi: Funny... I heard it was Gatorade and Tang and Hydrogen peroxide... not sure how the Gatorade helps |
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| 16:26.10 | eggyknap | Reminds me of the Flying Circus sketch about defending yourself against someone attacking you with a banana. "I'm going to kill you with antiseptic and drink mix!" |
| 16:30.37 | synic | is it not possible to configure software raid 5+0? |
| 16:38.06 | RyanE | Yeah, a gun against Tang (R) is not really a fair fight... |
| 16:42.03 | synic | and why is raid 5+0 supposedly faster than just a large raid 5? |
| 16:42.48 | sjansen | http://www.hulu.com/firefly |
| 16:44.18 | sjansen | Uh, RAID 5+0 makes no sense. Sure it's possible, but seems like a stupid waste of space. |
| 16:45.27 | synic | http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/tip/1,289483,sid5_gci1066983,00.html |
| 16:45.41 | sjansen | As for speed, I guess theoretically it maybe might be able to read a tiny bit faster. But mirroring will do very little to erase the overhead of calculating checksums. |
| 16:46.25 | synic | 0 is striping |
| 16:46.29 | sjansen | Oh, wait, sorry. I was thinking RAID 5+1. RAID 5+0 isn't qute as stupid. |
| 16:46.43 | RyanE | stupid is as stupid does |
| 16:46.55 | jsmith | And trust me... stupid does! |
| 16:46.59 | RyanE | ha! |
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| 16:53.07 | ^Migs^ | hahaha |
| 16:56.43 | findlay | hello |
| 16:56.58 | sontek | findlay: howdy |
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| 17:00.07 | encryptz | buenos dias |
| 17:01.43 | sontek | ~rot13 buenos dias |
| 17:01.43 | ibot | ohrabf qvnf |
| 17:01.45 | sontek | hmm |
| 17:02.00 | findlay | ~rot1234567890 hmm |
| 17:02.00 | ibot | rww |
| 17:02.06 | findlay | rww! |
| 17:08.18 | sjansen | ~rot26 findlay |
| 17:08.18 | ibot | findlay |
| 17:11.07 | tensai | ~rot52 sjansen |
| 17:11.07 | ibot | sjansen |
| 17:11.47 | tensai | ~rot11881376 yo momma |
| 17:11.47 | ibot | yo momma |
| 17:12.23 | tensai | ~rot5429503678976 overflow! |
| 17:12.23 | ibot | overflow! |
| 17:12.38 | tensai | ibot: impressive |
| 17:13.04 | tensai | ~rot2481152873203736576 try that |
| 17:13.04 | ibot | try that |
| 17:13.27 | levi | ".27.110] has quit ["What's that flashing?!"] |
| 17:13.27 | levi | Day changed to 04 Apr 2008 |
| 17:13.32 | levi | Hrm. |
| 17:13.34 | mrpull | ah geeze... catch 22. can't install SP1 on my machine because I installed an RC of Vista. |
| 17:13.36 | tensai | she must be doing modulo arithmetic on that |
| 17:13.42 | mrpull | can't uninstal the RC |
| 17:13.51 | levi | "Computing spread out much, much faster than educating unsophisticated people can happen. In the last 25 years or so, we actually got something like a pop culture, similar to what happened when television came on the scene and some of its inventors thought it would be a way of getting Shakespeare to the masses. But they forgot that you have to be more sophisticated and have more perspective to understand Shakespeare. What television was able to do was to c |
| 17:14.04 | levi | That was bigger than I expected. |
| 17:14.06 | levi | Sorry. |
| 17:14.40 | mrpull | television was able to do was... WHAT? |
| 17:15.35 | levi | to capture people as they were. So I think the lack of a real computer science today, and the lack of real software engineering today, is partly due to this pop culture." --Alan Kay |
| 17:30.32 | sjansen | Interesting perspective. |
| 17:31.26 | sjansen | So if medicine had had an equivalent of Moore's law, medicine would have experienced a significant period of quackery? |
| 17:31.31 | sjansen | Oh, wait... |
| 17:31.51 | mrpull | I knew shakespeare was to blame for the unreadability of sjansen's perl code |
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| 17:33.12 | sjansen | Actually, Graham Barr is to blame for the unreadability of my perl code. http://search.cpan.org/~gbarr/Lingua-Shakespeare-1.00/lib/Lingua/Shakespeare.pod |
| 17:34.53 | mrpull | sjansen: I'm speechless |
| 17:34.55 | mrpull | (mostly) |
| 17:36.52 | nick125 | I wonder, why are cats attracted to rub on my clothing especially when I'm wearing black? Is it a conspiracy or are cats attracted to black? |
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| 17:42.14 | unum | darn someone has hacked RKE systems |
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| 17:44.31 | sontek | starzykat: n00b |
| 17:44.58 | starzykat | hehehe |
| 17:45.19 | sjansen | ~greet starzykat |
| 17:45.20 | ibot | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on starzykat |
| 17:47.39 | starzykat | ~lart sjansen |
| 17:47.39 | ibot | sends a legion of lawyers after sjansen's head |
| 17:47.52 | starzykat | I sorry |
| 17:47.56 | starzykat | I didn't know |
| 17:48.47 | sjansen | ~bzfrag starzykat |
| 17:48.48 | ibot | ACTION fries starzykat with a laser |
| 17:49.02 | starzykat | I am dead now |
| 17:49.12 | starzykat | ~simpsons sjansen |
| 17:49.13 | ibot | ACTION sends sjansen chasing a rolling pink donut down the hill screaming, "its still good!, its still good!" |
| 17:49.31 | findlay | ~trogdor starzykat |
| 17:49.32 | ibot | ACTION burninates starzykat |
| 17:49.35 | starzykat | thats my soul haunting you with donuts |
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| 17:50.03 | starzykat | I don't know if the burnination will be so bad after being lasered |
| 17:50.22 | sontek | ~tackle starzykat |
| 17:50.23 | ibot | ACTION tackles starzykat to the ground. |
| 17:50.32 | starzykat | =^o.o^= |
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| 17:51.06 | sontek | ~onjoin starzykat =^o.o^= |
| 17:51.07 | ibot | ok, sontek |
| 17:51.13 | starzykat | grrrrr don't tackle me... I know where you live |
| 17:51.42 | levi | Sweet, my anti-static mat on my desk shocked me. At least I know it works. |
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| 18:15.28 | findlay | so, I have this windows b0x that bluescreens when it boots up. How does one go about fixing it? |
| 18:16.02 | levi | See if you can boot it into safe mode. |
| 18:16.16 | findlay | how do you do that? |
| 18:16.17 | sontek | findlay: either safe mode or booting up into the xp cd and running a repair |
| 18:16.29 | sontek | findlay: hit 'f5' while its booting |
| 18:16.35 | sontek | findlay: or 'f8' to get a menu |
| 18:17.23 | jnbek | i think it's F8 |
| 18:17.55 | sontek | both will work, f5 goes straight into safe mode, f8 gives you the menu to choose between a few optons, safe mode with network, last usable, normal, etc |
| 18:19.57 | jnbek | ahh, good to know, thanks |
| 18:22.28 | findlay | nice |
| 18:22.37 | findlay | good thing I don't know what the admin password is |
| 18:22.59 | findlay | maybe if you hit <enter> enough times it will just let you in |
| 18:23.03 | jnbek | hehe >:-) |
| 18:23.53 | sontek | findlay: boot into a linux live cd and move C:\windows\system32\config\sam to a different folder |
| 18:23.58 | sontek | then the password will be empty |
| 18:24.04 | sontek | and then you can put it back when you are done |
| 18:25.35 | findlay | how could I have done this without you, sontek? |
| 18:26.01 | sontek | findlay: you could've just installed Linux on it and fixed all the problems! |
| 18:26.12 | sontek | :D |
| 18:26.50 | findlay | I wish. This b0x runs a robotic laser cutter with a crap doze controller program |
| 18:26.54 | ^Migs^ | gawd I hate GoDaddy |
| 18:27.36 | jnbek | go Bluehost !! :) |
| 18:27.56 | ^Migs^ | I don't know how they've gotten away with their awful MySQL setup |
| 18:28.36 | mrpull | ^Migs^: they have an ex-playmate maintaining it |
| 18:28.41 | mrpull | nobody wants to see her go |
| 18:28.56 | ^Migs^ | ? |
| 18:29.06 | ^Migs^ | who? |
| 18:29.15 | mrpull | godaddy's db admin |
| 18:29.15 | mrpull | nevermind. |
| 18:29.51 | ^Migs^ | How am I supposed to do anything when I have to have a completely different username for every single database? |
| 18:30.13 | ^Migs^ | not to mention I can't join tables from different databases like I normally could |
| 18:31.20 | findlay | ^Migs^: why are you using a database hosted by gd? |
| 18:31.33 | ^Migs^ | have no choice |
| 18:31.49 | ^Migs^ | this school I'm helping bought a GoDaddy account before I came onboard |
| 18:32.01 | findlay | ugh |
| 18:32.05 | findlay | shivers |
| 18:32.06 | ^Migs^ | tried to convince them to just use my Dreamhost account, but they don't want to |
| 18:32.21 | Sargun | http://compsci.ca/blog/if-a-programming-language-was-a-boat/ <-- Haha |
| 18:32.34 | findlay | hates it when he has to clean up after incompetent tech decisions |
| 18:32.46 | ^Migs^ | the problem is they don't have to deal with all the backend stuff. All they see is a nice frontend, flashy interface (in their mind), cheap cost... |
| 18:33.01 | ^Migs^ | they have working email... |
| 18:33.03 | ^Migs^ | so why change? |
| 18:33.25 | ^Migs^ | meanwhile I have to do everything through FTP (no SSH), wrestle with these dbs... |
| 18:33.41 | findlay | that's awful |
| 18:33.52 | jnbek | ^Migs^: go bluehost, we offer all that stuff you've mentioned |
| 18:34.38 | findlay | ^Migs^: you should tell them the only way you'll work on it is if they double your rate |
| 18:34.52 | ^Migs^ | uh |
| 18:34.53 | ^Migs^ | I'm volunteering |
| 18:35.01 | ^Migs^ | so my kids can get into the school |
| 18:35.17 | findlay | ^Migs^: then they have to bake you 3 dozen cookies |
| 18:35.43 | findlay | ask yourself, do you really want your kids in a school that likes godaddy? :-) |
| 18:35.50 | ^Migs^ | hmmm |
| 18:35.54 | ^Migs^ | bluehost does seem kind of nice |
| 18:36.10 | ^Migs^ | well, the advantage is I'LL be in control of all their technology |
| 18:36.20 | ^Migs^ | I and my cousin-in-law will at least |
| 18:36.36 | ^Migs^ | so the school will be run the correct way |
| 18:36.45 | jnbek | for sure |
| 18:36.47 | ^Migs^ | they just started crappily |
| 18:37.18 | ^Migs^ | so 1.5TB per user? |
| 18:37.35 | jnbek | per account, yea |
| 18:37.38 | ^Migs^ | it is cheaper than Dreamhost |
| 18:37.48 | ^Migs^ | looks like Bluehost doesn't add space and bandwidth per week, though |
| 18:37.49 | jnbek | 15TB bandwidth |
| 18:37.52 | ^Migs^ | that's a disadvantage |
| 18:38.10 | ^Migs^ | lol, only 50 MySQL dbs? |
| 18:38.41 | ^Migs^ | where's the full list of "free website [sic] plug-in scripts?" |
| 18:39.12 | ^Migs^ | haha under multimedia features it has "MIDI File Support" |
| 18:39.14 | ^Migs^ | http://www.bluehost.com/tell_me_more.html |
| 18:39.32 | ^Migs^ | can I run a Java server on Bluehost? |
| 18:39.36 | jnbek | in the Demo Login->Software Services->Fantastico Deluxe and then there's Simple Scripts |
| 18:39.51 | jnbek | naw no Java or .NET |
| 18:39.58 | ^Migs^ | who cares about .NET? |
| 18:40.05 | jnbek | you'd be surprised, lol |
| 18:40.16 | ^Migs^ | meh |
| 18:40.22 | ^Migs^ | I'm only mildly impressed now |
| 18:40.32 | jnbek | "I signed up for an account and i just found out you don't support ASP?!?!?" |
| 18:40.42 | ^Migs^ | do I get a free domain when I sign up? |
| 18:40.47 | ^Migs^ | they should've checked that beforehand |
| 18:41.11 | ^Migs^ | Dreamhost gives me a free domain. |
| 18:41.22 | ^Migs^ | oh, nm |
| 18:41.23 | jnbek | yep you can bring over the current domain and make that your free one (Free Domain with the 12-24 month plan) |
| 18:41.26 | ^Migs^ | looks like Bluehost does |
| 18:41.36 | jnbek | man, i'm not even there yet, lol |
| 18:41.50 | ^Migs^ | hmmmm |
| 18:42.10 | ^Migs^ | Live Chat, too |
| 18:42.26 | ^Migs^ | oh well, too bad I just paid my annual Dreamhost bill |
| 18:42.37 | ^Migs^ | remind me 11 months from now |
| 18:42.40 | jnbek | 30 day full money back guarantee after 30 days prorated, and we're local, in Orem |
| 18:42.48 | jnbek | </schpeel> |
| 18:43.33 | ^Migs^ | do you have $97 first-time user discounts? |
| 18:43.41 | findlay | sontek: I don't have any livecd's that support NTFW rw :( |
| 18:43.49 | ^Migs^ | I'm not signing up unless I can get a fat discount as a new user |
| 18:44.13 | ^Migs^ | what are you going to do to make sure I become a Bluehost customer? |
| 18:44.20 | ^Migs^ | what can you offer me? |
| 18:44.44 | findlay | a box of blue doughnuts |
| 18:45.04 | ^Migs^ | come on, I know there's a ton of freebies and incentives you have at your disposal to dangle in my face |
| 18:47.39 | jnbek | ^Migs^: what ya see is what you get :) |
| 18:47.47 | levi | Why no Java? Not that I'm a Java fan, but there are some nifty languages that run on the JVM. |
| 18:48.12 | ^Migs^ | yeah, if Bluehost offered Java, that would seal the deal for me |
| 18:48.19 | jnbek | levi, licensing i guess, i'm not really sure though |
| 18:48.31 | ^Migs^ | Java doesn't require licensing |
| 18:49.11 | jnbek | i'll have to ask, but again i'm not too sure why they don't have it |
| 18:49.36 | Sargun | Who here fears for their childs health? Or thinks they don't get outside enough? |
| 18:50.12 | jnbek | anyways, i need to get ready, i talk to y'all later, PM me any questions |
| 18:50.38 | ^Migs^ | my kids are outside all day every day |
| 18:51.34 | levi | My daughter loves going outside. |
| 18:51.38 | Sargun | ^Migs^, is that because they fear you? |
| 18:51.49 | levi | chuckles at Sargun. |
| 18:51.54 | ^Migs^ | DISCIPLINE. |
| 18:51.58 | Sargun | (That was a joke) |
| 18:52.02 | levi | When I was a kid, I liked being outside, too. |
| 18:52.17 | levi | Heck, I still like being outside. |
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| 19:00.23 | findlay | why do people shout at their speakerphone, when they could just pick up the handset and talk normally? |
| 19:00.54 | ^Migs^ | speakerphones are the way to go |
| 19:01.19 | elg | or they could just talk normally at their speakerphone |
| 19:01.25 | findlay | that too |
| 19:01.56 | findlay | sontek: safe mode doesn't elude the bluescreen :( |
| 19:02.43 | mrpull | findlay: got good backups? |
| 19:02.52 | findlay | mrpull: none |
| 19:02.59 | mrpull | youch |
| 19:03.20 | mrpull | time to fire up that livecd again and start backing up before you tinker more :) |
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| 19:50.53 | levi | Heh, redbeard's recent blog entries are fascinating, but they make me very happy I'm not a 'guru'. |
| 19:52.55 | RedHeron | remembers the days of guru meditation numbers.... and has a moment of silence for the Amiga 1000 that was his aeons ago. |
| 19:53.54 | levi | I always coveted the Amigas in the computer stores in the mall. |
| 19:55.35 | keldwud | mmmm |
| 19:56.10 | keldwud | reminisces over his amiga 2k |
| 19:56.32 | keldwud | sighs dreamily @ 2 floppy drives and 1200baud modem |
| 19:57.02 | keldwud | hey anybody in here on twitter that I can listen to? |
| 19:57.04 | RedHeron | Don't forget the speedy 25 mHz 68020 CPU |
| 19:57.25 | keldwud | oh god yes! talk dirty to me RedHeron!!! |
| 19:57.29 | RedHeron | lol |
| 19:57.42 | keldwud | it's sad that I am so excited about the amiga still |
| 19:57.57 | RedHeron | Imagine what would have happened if it had continued to be developed. |
| 19:58.34 | RedHeron | kicks patent restrictions which are still in place to this very day. |
| 19:59.17 | keldwud | RedHeron: I do. I imagine it at least once a month |
| 19:59.39 | keldwud | shoot, people are still using the old hardware in europe! |
| 20:01.16 | levi | Imagine what would have happened if the Lisp Machines had won the workstation war! |
| 20:01.42 | mrpull | more parentheses? |
| 20:03.09 | levi | There's really not a whole lot more bracketing characters in Lisp than in C-like languages. They're just all parentheses instead of being []s, {}s, etc. |
| 20:03.13 | keldwud | oh I just lol'ed mrpull |
| 20:04.11 | mrpull | remember the pirate keyboard that only had shift, R , and the ! keys? |
| 20:04.20 | mrpull | there should be a lisp version of that gag |
| 20:04.25 | mrpull | just friggin parrens |
| 20:04.44 | levi | Except it wouldn't be funny. |
| 20:05.03 | mrpull | the fact that you don't think it is funny makes it funny (to me) |
| 20:05.18 | Tene | If it's that joke, you want (, ), and 'make fun of C++' |
| 20:05.50 | levi | How about a perl one that's just sigils. |
| 20:06.24 | levi | Wait, no, that wouldn't be funny either. |
| 20:06.52 | mrpull | levi: I'm afraid the perl hackers would still be able to write actual code |
| 20:06.59 | mrpull | just _less_ readable |
| 20:07.09 | keldwud | hey anybody know anyone selling a motorcycle? |
| 20:07.21 | keldwud | has already checked craigslist and ksl, just asking |
| 20:08.19 | sontek | those are dangerous and not family friendly, my I suggest a nice SUV or minivan? |
| 20:08.30 | keldwud | hahaha |
| 20:08.38 | keldwud | oh god those are deathtraps |
| 20:08.40 | keldwud | hell no,. |
| 20:09.03 | keldwud | :) |
| 20:10.00 | sontek | lol |
| 20:11.04 | keldwud | no maneuverability AND a false sense of security! |
| 20:11.21 | sontek | and you can drive as fast as you want into the snow! |
| 20:11.24 | Tene | Oh, or maybe the "My dad can beat up your dad" keyboard! |
| 20:11.27 | sontek | who cares about stopping in it |
| 20:11.35 | keldwud | throw in some kids, a couple of flat screen displays and apply some make-up and you have a recipe for disaster! |
| 20:13.12 | levi | Vans are awesome. |
| 20:13.55 | levi | Motorcycles are pretty cool, too, but I self-power my two-wheeled vehicles. |
| 20:14.44 | unum | hehehe |
| 20:14.48 | RedHeron | <?pirate r; r; echo "Arrr!"; ?> |
| 20:14.48 | keldwud | yay for dedicated bicycle commuter lanes in salt lake |
| 20:15.12 | keldwud | so I'll take that as a "no" for the motorcycle and a "no" for the twitter feeds/ |
| 20:15.28 | sontek | twitter feeds are amazing! |
| 20:15.35 | findlay | sontek: so, now that I've got to the repair prompt, what do I do? |
| 20:15.35 | RedHeron | is not a twitter. |
| 20:15.46 | keldwud | what's yours sontek? |
| 20:15.49 | unum | needs to start riding his bike to work |
| 20:15.58 | keldwud | unum: yeah it's getting warm enough |
| 20:16.06 | pr0le | keldwud: my girlfriend is thinking about upgrading to a Harley soon, so she'd have to sell her Honda Shadow... |
| 20:16.08 | sontek | findlay: you don't be able to fix it through the repair console if safe mode failed |
| 20:16.22 | findlay | :( |
| 20:16.34 | keldwud | harley = expensive. which means it's probably a newer shadow |
| 20:16.34 | sontek | findlay: your best bet is to livecd and do backups, and then run 'repair' on the system, which will install windows on top of itself |
| 20:16.39 | keldwud | I have 1000 bux |
| 20:16.45 | keldwud | I'm looking old and cheap. |
| 20:16.56 | findlay | already did the backup |
| 20:17.08 | findlay | time to reinstall I guess |
| 20:17.12 | Tadaka | anyone do wifi networking, as in covering an entire city? or know someone who does? |
| 20:17.18 | pr0le | Hmm, I think she just paid $2500 for it last year |
| 20:17.34 | keldwud | orly? |
| 20:17.34 | sontek | keldwud: put it into your 401k and enjoy the safe bet of compound interest! |
| 20:17.50 | keldwud | oh sontek! your wit and sarcasm continue to make me LOL |
| 20:18.00 | unum | sontek: I think I lost money in my 401k so far |
| 20:18.16 | keldwud | I should also invest in the american dollar while I am at it :) |
| 20:18.18 | sontek | findlay: don't do a full reinstall, just do a repair install |
| 20:18.25 | pr0le | Tadaka: I know someone who can, whether or not he has the time is another matter |
| 20:18.32 | sontek | unum: I would've lost money on mine if it wasn't for matching |
| 20:18.52 | sontek | keldwud: Its coming back! |
| 20:18.54 | findlay | Tadaka: you want to speak to state rep Daw about that |
| 20:18.54 | keldwud | and maybe buy some sub-prime mortgages |
| 20:19.09 | sontek | keldwud: pretty soon they'll have to reprint all the books that have Canada listed as more than us! |
| 20:19.10 | findlay | something about saving the children from open citywide wifi networks |
| 20:19.13 | keldwud | back again? should I guess who's coming back? |
| 20:20.00 | keldwud | findlay: oh man, dont tell me we actualy have a representative trying to make that fundamentalism a reality! |
| 20:20.13 | keldwud | "save the children!!" |
| 20:21.23 | sontek | My parents should've have saved me when I was little! My internet usage wasn't safe for work, we'll leave it at that! :P |
| 20:21.43 | sontek | s/have// |
| 20:21.52 | keldwud | hehe shave |
| 20:21.59 | levi | This is interesting news: http://thebetaguy.com/exclusives/?postid=1029344029&title=microsoft-windows-7-exclusive |
| 20:23.03 | keldwud | nice linkage |
| 20:23.08 | levi | Is a Harley really an upgrade from a Honda or is it just an 'image upgrade'? |
| 20:24.44 | keldwud | good question |
| 20:25.12 | keldwud | I think it is like upgrading my wardrobe from the gap to tommy hilfiger |
| 20:25.19 | keldwud | or however it's spelled |
| 20:25.20 | keldwud | ;) |
| 20:25.39 | pr0le | I dunno, I'm not much of a Harley fan, but I love my V-Rod |
| 20:25.40 | levi | I know Harley folks sneer at Hondas, but I don't really have a lot of respect for the taste of Harley people. |
| 20:27.05 | sontek | I think Harley is like Ubuntu, you don't use it because its better than anything else, you use it for the community and philosophy behind it =P |
| 20:27.05 | pr0le | they're a different folk, that's for sure |
| 20:27.18 | Tadaka | levi: personally, I think it is an image thing. but I ride a sport touring bike, so what do I know? :P |
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| 20:27.47 | levi | I hate the tendency of Harleys to be extremely loud. |
| 20:27.54 | unum | knows nothing about images, as evidence he points at his malibu |
| 20:28.03 | sontek | did you guyss hear they are remaking short circuit? =) |
| 20:28.16 | mrpull | sontek: Johnny 5 IS alive |
| 20:28.21 | unum | my brother bought that movie last year |
| 20:28.23 | levi | sontek: You sure that wasn't an April Fool's joke?! |
| 20:28.28 | unum | s/that/me that |
| 20:28.29 | Tadaka | ok, levi: harley's aren't loud stock. they have to replace the pipes to do that |
| 20:28.34 | mrpull | holywood is out of ideas |
| 20:28.38 | Tadaka | s/ok, // |
| 20:28.49 | Tadaka | exactly ibot |
| 20:28.52 | levi | Tadaka: So I've heard, but it seems that everyone does replace the pipes. |
| 20:28.59 | Tadaka | yup |
| 20:29.05 | Tadaka | back to that image thing |
| 20:29.07 | unum | where is nr? |
| 20:29.52 | levi | Tadaka: Like I said, I don't have a lot of respect for them. |
| 20:30.18 | Tadaka | here's the bike I want. http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/bikes/bike.jsp?b=r1200rt&bikeSection=tour |
| 20:30.19 | keldwud | I am liking the old kawasaki KZ LTDs |
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| 20:30.29 | levi | In fact, at times, I have a strong desire to take some sort of really destructive device to their 'hogs'. |
| 20:30.31 | Tadaka | when I suddenly get rich and all that |
| 20:30.31 | keldwud | does != bullet |
| 20:30.31 | pr0le | mine's loud, but I bought it that way. I'm not going to go out and buy new pipes to make it quiet again. :) |
| 20:31.17 | pr0le | I'm not particularly fond of its noise, especially when leaving for work at 6:15 with a wall of apartments next door |
| 20:31.24 | levi | pr0le: I would probably get the urge to destroy it if I heard it. I am, fortunately, able to control those urges pretty well. |
| 20:31.35 | keldwud | no bikes available eh? some guy from KSL wanted me to give him a 500 dollar deposit with no receipt or title or bike. I mean the bike was there, he just didn't want to give me anything in return |
| 20:31.35 | pr0le | ha |
| 20:31.36 | keldwud | :( |
| 20:32.01 | levi | I mean, if it's that loud, it's BROKEN and it needs to be fixed before it's roadworthy. :P |
| 20:32.20 | pr0le | that being said, I know I'm less apt to have some idiot merge into me on the freeway because I was in their blind spot |
| 20:32.20 | Tadaka | keldwud: thinking about selling my Kawasaki Concours, but not quite ready to yet |
| 20:32.33 | keldwud | oooh |
| 20:32.48 | keldwud | man, does *every*body in here have a bike? |
| 20:32.55 | keldwud | we should organize an opensource Ride |
| 20:32.56 | keldwud | heh |
| 20:33.07 | Tadaka | commuted for 4 years on his ride |
| 20:33.11 | pr0le | obviously, stay out of the blind spots of cars, but there are a lot of terrible drivers on the freeway |
| 20:33.15 | sontek | I've got the bike I ride in Triathlons |
| 20:33.17 | levi | I drive a Mazda Miata and a VW Eurovan. |
| 20:33.23 | sontek | you guys will have to take it a little slow for me |
| 20:33.35 | Tadaka | pr0le: here's my rule. "I'm invisible and they want to kill me. " |
| 20:33.45 | keldwud | how much is a concours worth? *googles pictures* |
| 20:33.46 | levi | sontek: I've got that kind of bike and the kind I ride on mountain trails. |
| 20:33.56 | keldwud | Tadaka: good rule. that's how I ride too. |
| 20:34.04 | pr0le | yep, agreed |
| 20:34.18 | sontek | levi: opensource mountain riding get together? |
| 20:34.18 | levi | And one that doesn't work because a total deadbeat larda** roommate borrowed it and broke the fork with his tremendous bulk. |
| 20:34.21 | Tadaka | umm, not sure really. I *think* my 2005 is worth about $6k, but I could be off |
| 20:34.26 | sontek | who needs those silly death machines |
| 20:34.37 | Tadaka | raises his hand ;-) |
| 20:34.44 | Tadaka | its fun! |
| 20:34.45 | keldwud | hmm.. sport touring eh? |
| 20:34.48 | keldwud | when and how much? |
| 20:34.59 | levi | He broke my bike and stiffed me for about $1k worth of rent. |
| 20:35.01 | keldwud | it looks sexy but it looks like a bullet bike with the fairings |
| 20:35.08 | keldwud | raises his hand too |
| 20:35.15 | Tadaka | its a bit more upright than a bullet bike |
| 20:35.25 | keldwud | yeah if I didn't like silly death machines, I wouldn't be playing nethack so much |
| 20:35.27 | Tadaka | but w/ 1000cc it moves pretty well |
| 20:35.46 | keldwud | 6 k is way past my budget |
| 20:35.49 | keldwud | :( |
| 20:36.05 | levi | If I was going to buy a death machine, it would be an Ariel Atom. |
| 20:36.30 | sjansen | I've I were going to buy a death machine, it would be Linux powered sharks with lasers. |
| 20:37.19 | levi | It has 4 wheels, as motored conveyances are meant to, but is in the same league as sport bikes in acceleration. |
| 20:37.19 | sontek | sharks with lasers++ |
| 20:37.21 | keldwud | ariel atom - http://tinyurl.com/4k7zwf |
| 20:38.00 | Tadaka | crap, he just made me feel bad. |
| 20:38.16 | Tadaka | "middle aged man. 35 or maybe 40" |
| 20:38.20 | Tadaka | flinches |
| 20:38.31 | keldwud | haha |
| 20:38.33 | eggyknap | Nah. BSD-powered sharks :) |
| 20:38.38 | keldwud | yeah, ouch. lmao |
| 20:38.45 | Tadaka | turns 35 next month |
| 20:39.04 | levi | This guy is my hero: http://dpcars.net/ |
| 20:39.17 | keldwud | lol @ "bit of a gut" |
| 20:39.32 | Sargun | sjansen, I prefer a Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate certified shark with Aero graphics! |
| 20:39.52 | keldwud | car company with seven employees. that's gonna cost ya a bit levi |
| 20:39.52 | Tadaka | keldwud: that part I've atleast avoided... so far |
| 20:40.16 | Tadaka | I guess I'll see how I do by 40 though |
| 20:40.30 | keldwud | it's a motorcycle for old farts lmao |
| 20:41.09 | levi | keldwud: Nah, wait until you see it race the motorcycle. |
| 20:41.28 | Sargun | Tadaka, Old. |
| 20:41.30 | keldwud | wonder how those things flip |
| 20:41.52 | levi | flip? |
| 20:42.11 | keldwud | I wonder if they flip or not |
| 20:42.20 | levi | Why would they flip? |
| 20:42.37 | keldwud | if you lost control? |
| 20:42.38 | synic | anyone use any adaptec raid cards? |
| 20:43.03 | keldwud | if the back wheels ended up too far forward compared to the front wheels? |
| 20:43.05 | levi | keldwud: Maybe if you slid into a ridge in the pavement or something. |
| 20:43.22 | levi | keldwud: Have you ever lost control in a sports car? |
| 20:43.29 | keldwud | hmm. nope :) |
| 20:43.41 | keldwud | I'm just talking out of my bum actually :) |
| 20:43.54 | keldwud | the atom looks like a fun gadget |
| 20:43.56 | levi | You slide and spin a lot, generally, but you don't flip unless you hit something. |
| 20:44.20 | keldwud | wow @ race vs kawasaki |
| 20:44.33 | keldwud | that was impressive! |
| 20:44.55 | keldwud | damn look at his jowls flapping in the wind |
| 20:46.07 | levi | The dpcars guy has an even faster version with a small V8 in it. |
| 20:46.12 | findlay | hm, I updated X and now I can't get more resolution on this monitor than 1024x768 |
| 20:46.47 | levi | He's using it as a test mule to evaluate the engine for use in the car he's designing, which will be even faster than the Atom, but track-only. |
| 20:48.04 | keldwud | hmm.. 29k pounds |
| 20:48.12 | findlay | I have a car with a small flat 4 in it |
| 20:48.15 | keldwud | that is what. 57k USD? |
| 20:48.38 | findlay | it can really burn up the road, you just have to give it a little time |
| 20:48.52 | findlay | :) |
| 20:48.59 | keldwud | haha findlay |
| 20:49.15 | Tadaka | lol. this video is hilarious |
| 20:49.23 | keldwud | okay so I have money in my pocket just waiting to be spend on a motorcycle |
| 20:49.29 | Tadaka | looks like a lot of fun |
| 20:49.33 | keldwud | hops back on craigslist and ksl |
| 20:49.50 | levi | The engine this guy has in his Atom is a 375hp 2.8L V8. |
| 20:50.07 | pr0le | keldwud: you might try ebay too, that's where I got mine |
| 20:50.50 | keldwud | curses vehemently at his phone charger |
| 20:50.51 | mrpull | keldwud: KSL.com's classifieds are a pretty stinking good resource too |
| 20:50.58 | keldwud | gets all tourettes about it |
| 20:51.07 | tensai | synic: yes, I've used adaptec cards |
| 20:51.07 | mrpull | only geeks seem to know about craigslist |
| 20:51.09 | keldwud | damn. looks like I will have to wait or use my skype |
| 20:51.13 | mrpull | ebay generally sucks |
| 20:51.31 | keldwud | I've been trying to charge my phone for the last 4 days |
| 20:51.32 | levi | Apparently there's a guy who's got an Atom in Utah. It's for sale for $88k. |
| 20:51.50 | keldwud | and instead of charging it generally gives me the charge status but actually drains it |
| 20:52.10 | keldwud | so I have to check every hour, and if it got a charge, just not put it on the charger again because it will drain |
| 20:52.12 | levi | http://www.arielatom.com/imagesfs/11972291141.jpg |
| 20:52.17 | synic | tensai: any good way to monitor the status via the command line? |
| 20:52.23 | keldwud | I have a 1 in 5 chance of getting a charge |
| 20:52.26 | Supaplex | shouldn't these files be hardlinked http://rafb.net/p/lYzANY68.html when using rsync --link-dest=2008-04-03/ ? only 1848 files appear to have the same inode shared between the two directories, and 251777 are not. |
| 20:52.56 | keldwud | oh I am so angry right now |
| 20:52.57 | keldwud | laughs |
| 20:54.16 | tensai | synic: not that I know of for the ones I have (2010S) |
| 20:54.49 | tensai | synic: we got some lsi megaraid cards which do have decent online tools |
| 20:54.53 | synic | tensai: bleh. Google is of no help either. |
| 20:55.01 | synic | tensai: yeah, we have some LSI and some 3ware cards |
| 20:55.07 | synic | all of which I can monitor easily |
| 20:55.21 | tensai | that was one of our reasons for going with the LSI |
| 20:55.40 | levi | Heh, there's an Atom for sale in Texas that some guy installed a nav system in. |
| 20:55.49 | levi | WTF do you want a nav system for in a car like that?! |
| 20:56.12 | keldwud | yeah, where are you going to nav to? |
| 20:56.18 | findlay | mars? |
| 20:57.33 | keldwud | heh |
| 21:01.03 | findlay | this doze box has lots of crapware on it |
| 21:02.41 | sjansen | I'm hip 'cause I can spell cappuccino. |
| 21:04.53 | keldwud | cap-a-cheeno! |
| 21:05.12 | keldwud | sweet, found a kawasaki 1000cc in riverton for 400 bux! |
| 21:05.22 | keldwud | hey anybody want some gas money to goto riverton? |
| 21:05.25 | keldwud | bus dont go out there |
| 21:07.35 | levi | Sweet, my network driver now loads, initializes the chip, registers with the OS, and cleans up properly when I unload it. |
| 21:08.13 | sjansen | ~give levi salsa for his chips |
| 21:08.13 | ibot | ACTION gives salsa for his chips to levi |
| 21:08.17 | eggyknap | wants to learn to write drivers one day |
| 21:09.07 | levi | Now I get nice messages to my system log saying 'send_packets not implemented yet' and 'devctl not implemented yet' |
| 21:09.53 | sjansen | ~flood levi |
| 21:09.53 | ibot | ACTION blasts levi with a huge firehose then strangles levi with it |
| 21:10.17 | sjansen | No no no no no! Bad ibot! I wanted a ping flood! |
| 21:11.13 | findlay | I don't need to write. I drive by myself |
| 21:11.36 | Sargun | http://www.routergod.com/annanicolesmith/ |
| 21:11.56 | Supaplex | I had a thought of nfs over 802.11, and then thought ouch. |
| 21:12.34 | Sargun | Supaplex, 802.11 what? |
| 21:12.52 | Supaplex | g |
| 21:15.13 | keldwud | ~irc finding a motorbike |
| 21:15.14 | ibot | Oh IRC, why do you distract me so from finding a motorbike? |
| 21:15.21 | keldwud | hey supa - you wanna make some money? |
| 21:15.28 | keldwud | I need to get to riverton asap |
| 21:15.51 | Supaplex | my car has a bad clutch :P |
| 21:19.17 | findlay | just changed the clutch in his car |
| 21:19.25 | findlay | that was fun |
| 21:20.24 | goozbach | I love the CPAN |
| 21:20.33 | goozbach | and by assoication Perl hackers |
| 21:21.05 | goozbach | I just submitted a bugreport on a package via rt.cpan.org, and the developer had it fixed within 45min. |
| 21:21.36 | fozzmoo | wow |
| 21:21.43 | fozzmoo | what pkg? |
| 21:21.44 | keldwud | damn |
| 21:22.05 | keldwud | hey supaplex, who do you know in salt lake that would be willing to take me to my motorcycle in riverton? :) heh |
| 21:22.29 | goozbach | DateTime-Format-Flexible |
| 21:23.20 | Supaplex | no idea keldwud |
| 21:23.39 | Supaplex | goozbach: I <3 .p[ml] too :) |
| 21:23.41 | fozzmoo | keldwud: If I didn't have to run to WVC to get my kids, I'd take you. |
| 21:23.45 | fozzmoo | lives in Riverton |
| 21:23.54 | keldwud | oh damn, that would have been nice :) |
| 21:24.28 | fozzmoo | What's the deal? |
| 21:24.44 | keldwud | oh there is a bike ther for 400 |
| 21:24.50 | keldwud | s/ther/there/ |
| 21:24.59 | fozzmoo | ;-) |
| 21:25.18 | keldwud | and I want to ride a bike today!! |
| 21:25.21 | keldwud | badly |
| 21:25.33 | fozzmoo | Oh, so you were gonna go out, buy it, and ride it back? |
| 21:25.41 | keldwud | heh :) I pulled money out to buy this other bike but he just wanted to scam me and yes I will ride it back. |
| 21:25.42 | Tadaka | someone's got some money burning a hole in their pocket :P |
| 21:25.50 | keldwud | Tadaka: is right |
| 21:25.58 | Tadaka | knows the feeling |
| 21:26.06 | fozzmoo | knows the feeling. Just bought a generator. |
| 21:26.10 | keldwud | yeah it's been eating at me ever since I sold my bike in november. |
| 21:26.28 | keldwud | it's even worse that I was set on getting that other bike today but he pulled out. |
| 21:27.46 | Tadaka | yea that would drive me bonkers |
| 21:28.55 | keldwud | and it is such a nice day too! |
| 21:29.06 | keldwud | somebody just rent me their bike for two hours! |
| 21:29.07 | levi | I just bought a new roof, a new shed, and a new fence. |
| 21:29.11 | keldwud | I need to ride!!! |
| 21:29.13 | keldwud | laughs |
| 21:29.22 | keldwud | everyone else is out on the roads, I can hear them |
| 21:29.27 | keldwud | pouts |
| 21:29.35 | levi | There goes the tax return and the money I got from selling a car. |
| 21:29.42 | levi | Plus some savings. |
| 21:30.03 | levi | But hey, having a fully-shingled roof is a good thing. |
| 21:30.24 | findlay | keldwud: you can borrow my car. It's not much, but you can lower all the power windows, close your eyes, and pretend you're on a bike |
| 21:30.32 | keldwud | hahaha |
| 21:30.36 | findlay | well, all except for the closing your eyes part |
| 21:30.44 | Tadaka | umm, was about to call that part out ;) |
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| 21:31.03 | keldwud | well maybe I can borrow it to go pay for my bike :) |
| 21:31.09 | keldwud | laughs |
| 21:35.09 | goozbach | who's good at building debs? |
| 21:35.30 | sjansen | goozbach: TimRiker |
| 21:35.31 | goozbach | what does "debian/rules:51: *** missing separator. Stop. |
| 21:35.35 | goozbach | " mean |
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| 21:35.58 | nick125 | You are missing a separator on line 51 of debian/rules? |
| 21:36.53 | goozbach | ok |
| 21:37.41 | goozbach | what's a "seperator"? |
| 21:38.07 | nick125 | My guess would either be a space, /, ; or : |
| 21:38.12 | nick125 | Or maybe a = |
| 21:38.24 | findlay | is it referring to a shell token? |
| 21:38.48 | nick125 | goozbach: Your first issue is building debs. |
| 21:39.39 | elg | debian/rules is a makefile |
| 21:39.40 | goozbach | nick125: thanks, I figured that out |
| 21:39.44 | elg | it's probably spaces instead of tab |
| 21:39.58 | goozbach | I downloaded a script from plug which is called cpan2deb |
| 21:40.07 | goozbach | aparently it got mangled from the listmanager |
| 21:40.17 | goozbach | there was a line which hard wrapped... |
| 21:40.25 | goozbach | at line 51-52 |
| 21:41.30 | goozbach | (of the embedded makefile) |
| 21:41.51 | goozbach | <3 vim |
| 21:42.09 | goozbach | "error in your embedded file with a line number?" |
| 21:42.33 | goozbach | "put your cursor on the first line of the HEREDOC and type the line number eg: 51" |
| 21:42.46 | goozbach | "then strike <j>"; |
| 21:43.13 | elg | strike it hard |
| 21:43.25 | goozbach | but just once |
| 21:43.43 | findlay | did it light when you struck it? |
| 21:43.49 | goozbach | I personally am a fan of the wind-up strike |
| 21:44.00 | goozbach | with the index finger of course |
| 21:44.09 | sjansen | ~devo elg |
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| 21:52.07 | Supaplex | how do I escape $ in a makefile, so it's a literal? eg, $1 in awk here: $(shell ls -1d ????-??-??/$(DEST)/ | awk '{print "--link-dest="$1}') \ |
| 21:55.33 | synic | \$$ |
| 21:56.47 | sjansen | $$ |
| 21:57.43 | Supaplex | sjansen: thanks. I kept thinking that was pid, but i'm in make, not /bin/sh here. :) |
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| 21:59.15 | sjansen | Supaplex: Why do you need $(shell )? |
| 21:59.51 | Supaplex | rsync .... --link-dest= |
| 22:00.24 | Supaplex | rsync --rsync-path=/usr/bin/rsync -axuHSvP --delete --delete-excluded --numeric-ids --rsh="ssh -e none -xkal root" --exclude-from=excludes.txt \ --link-dest=2007-12-30/server1/ --link-dest=2008-04-03/server1/ \ example.com:// /root/backups/2008-04-04/server1/ |
| 22:00.52 | Supaplex | it's part of my snapshot/backups |
| 22:01.20 | findlay | Supaplex: sure you don't want `rsync -z`? |
| 22:01.57 | findlay | or even --rsh="ssh -C" |
| 22:02.25 | Supaplex | I avoided that a while ago, and I'm trying to remember why. |
| 22:13.23 | keldwud | yes! looks like the guy with the title to the bike is going to hook me up |
| 22:13.30 | keldwud | but I have to trade this eee pc with my cash |
| 22:13.41 | keldwud | so goodby IRC and hello wonderful asphalt |
| 22:13.58 | keldwud | ~irc riding my motorcycle |
| 22:13.59 | ibot | Oh IRC, why do you distract me so from riding my motorcycle? |
| 22:14.16 | fozzmoo | keldwud: What EEE PC? |
| 22:14.20 | fozzmoo | What model? |
| 22:14.25 | fozzmoo | 4GB 2GB? What? |
| 22:15.13 | findlay | heh |
| 22:15.21 | nick125 | keldwud: Couldn't you just walk? :P |
| 22:22.07 | keldwud | 4g |
| 22:22.19 | keldwud | I am trading it to him |
| 22:22.26 | keldwud | or I can sell it right now to somebody for 380 |
| 22:22.32 | keldwud | I got it in the mail last week |
| 22:23.12 | keldwud | once I have a bike, I wont need my computer for a couple weeks, so.. :) but I plan on buying a new one in two weeks again anyway |
| 22:23.42 | keldwud | nick125: walk where? heh. I know you know what it's like to need to ride, dont you? |
| 22:24.47 | nick125 | yeah |
| 22:25.25 | keldwud | well I've been *needing* since november when I sold my last bike :) |
| 22:26.02 | keldwud | seriously, I'm excited to see that there are so many enthusiasts here in the opensource community called #utah. we should definitely organize a ride soon. |
| 22:26.07 | keldwud | what do you guys think? |
| 22:26.15 | keldwud | "opensource ride!" |
| 22:26.58 | keldwud | anybody want my 4G? or should I just plan on trading it to him? |
| 22:27.59 | mrpull-x | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.06 | mrpull-x | keldwud: how much is it? |
| 22:28.53 | keldwud | yeah webcam |
| 22:28.58 | keldwud | I don't have the surf edition |
| 22:29.07 | keldwud | this is the one with the betterbattery and stuff |
| 22:29.10 | keldwud | 380 |
| 22:29.22 | keldwud | that is 20 below retail and no hassle with shipping |
| 22:29.30 | keldwud | but newegg is doing free shipping right now. |
| 22:29.48 | keldwud | but it would have to be a full cash deal tonight in the next hour to two hours |
| 22:30.00 | keldwud | because I am using this to buy the bike if I don't get cash. |
| 22:30.26 | keldwud | and I'm downtown slc |
| 22:30.45 | mrpull-x | i'll pass |
| 22:30.53 | mrpull-x | the bike sounds like fun tho |
| 22:31.00 | keldwud | oh yeah :) |
| 22:31.06 | mrpull-x | i'll give you 385 for the bike |
| 22:31.11 | keldwud | hell no |
| 22:31.11 | keldwud | haha |
| 22:31.23 | keldwud | I saw one in riverton that you can drive away right now for 400 |
| 22:31.33 | keldwud | I think it was a 750 |
| 22:31.41 | keldwud | want me to find the link for you? |
| 22:32.21 | mrpull-x | nah. i'm just playin' |
| 22:33.07 | keldwud | haha, from twitter - "wilw "'What? Another book on Earth?' And he didnât even make up that planet! Itâs an open source planet! Damn slacker." I heart @scalzi 2 minutes ago from web " |
| 22:33.18 | keldwud | opensource planet :) |
| 22:33.26 | keldwud | thought you guys might enjoy that. |
| 22:33.59 | keldwud | so nobody is interested in an opensource ride? I would be willing to do the organizing. and I would be willing to find a couple of cool names to sponsor. |
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| 22:39.01 | keldwud | oh crap, what's that word for people who dont work anymore because they got hurt? |
| 22:39.10 | keldwud | work _____ |
| 22:39.25 | elg | orphans |
| 22:39.29 | elg | workman's comp |
| 22:39.35 | elg | lazy? ;-) |
| 22:40.05 | keldwud | yeah thanks |
| 22:40.10 | keldwud | workman's comp |
| 22:40.19 | keldwud | http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hq6FlGb4RaKA8uNU0xIMPsrNOgPAD8VR8Q8G0 |
| 22:40.53 | keldwud | my guess is that they are getting screwed by welfare services and workman's comp now that everybody knows they have a pool. |
| 22:42.33 | keldwud | how can you sue for 25k? all google did was trespass, at the worst. |
| 22:42.36 | elg | ~lart sjansen |
| 22:42.36 | ibot | shoots sjansen in his sleep |
| 22:42.51 | elg | levi: got a minute? |
| 22:43.40 | keldwud | now here's a controversial statement - "Isn't litigation the only way to change a big business' conduct with the public?" Moskal said. "What happened to their accountability?" |
| 22:46.12 | sjansen | Sounds like they need to get used to the modern world. If they want privacy, they need a tall, solid gate. |
| 22:46.47 | keldwud | or they need to spend more than 163k if they want that much privacy |
| 22:46.59 | keldwud | they feel that their 'distress' is worth 25k |
| 22:47.27 | elg | "Isn't litigation the only way to get lots of money from a corporation for no good reason?" Moskal said. "What happened to free handouts?" |
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| 22:47.37 | sjansen | Now if Google drove up a 300ft private drive to photograph a house behind trees of a fence, maybe they have a case. But I doubt Google's drivers are that ambitious. |
| 22:47.50 | elg | i think they contract out |
| 22:47.58 | sjansen | Of course. |
| 22:48.12 | keldwud | hehe. well it's controversial because he kind of said it in the wrong context but when it comes to companies like AOL or Verizon, the only way to change their business model is through litigation by state AG's and such. |
| 22:48.19 | keldwud | class action lawsuits |
| 22:48.34 | keldwud | but in this particular context it is just the wussy way out. |
| 22:52.08 | elg | it's not. it's the sorry excuse for a rationalization for suing a company with deep pockets just because you can |
| 22:54.30 | sjansen | 25k is chump change to GOOG, surely they'll pay us to go away |
| 22:55.36 | keldwud | I completely agree with you elg but I also think that when it is more than just an individual, a class action lawsuit can be a useful tool for holding a large corporation accountable for their actions. what other tools do we have other than our congressmen/women who are paid by these corporations in the first place? |
| 22:55.50 | elg | sure |
| 22:56.03 | elg | i don't deny there are legitimate times to sue corporations and individuals |
| 22:56.07 | sjansen | Public shame and boycotts. |
| 22:56.12 | keldwud | haha @ public shame |
| 22:56.39 | keldwud | now voting with your dollar is an effective manner, yes. but public shame is not as effective as it used to be. |
| 22:57.21 | keldwud | it takes a lot more money to combat by using public shame and you need as large as an advertising budget as the company you are fighting against |
| 22:57.48 | keldwud | but boycotts and voting with your dollar are far more effective, except in markets where there is little choice |
| 22:58.03 | keldwud | for instance, I cannot boycott both comcast AND qwest at the same time. |
| 22:58.37 | unum | unless you live in murray or midvale |
| 22:58.42 | unum | hahaha |
| 22:58.55 | unum | curses utah valley politicians |
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| 22:59.01 | unum | stay away from MY internet |
| 22:59.22 | sjansen | ~steal unum's Internet |
| 22:59.22 | ibot | ACTION grabs unum's Internet and gives it to sjansen |
| 22:59.29 | unum | gah! |
| 23:00.17 | unum | I mean really can you not find people better than dougal and stevensen |
| 23:03.12 | findlay | haha |
| 23:03.59 | findlay | Utah legislature: Dealing out your pork to our lobbyists(R) |
| 23:04.04 | tensai | here's the house in question. http://tinyurl.com/634te8 |
| 23:04.10 | tensai | I don't see any Private Drive sign |
| 23:05.18 | tensai | and it's not entirely clear where the road stops and the driveway begins |
| 23:06.04 | keldwud | UtahLoLcat sez: i'm in yur legislature, om nom nomm'ing yur rights |
| 23:06.11 | keldwud | ;) |
| 23:06.25 | unum | my favority thing about most utah legislature is how they can say in almost the same breath "I believe in small government, and I'm going to use that "small" government to force my religious belief on everyone else" |
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| 23:07.19 | keldwud | or in nethack speak - e "what would you like to eat? [fnMQ]" Q "Q - utah house legislature" |
| 23:07.32 | keldwud | "my that was a delicious legislature" |
| 23:07.35 | keldwud | om nom nom |
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| 23:10.50 | sontek | darn interwebs |
| 23:12.31 | keldwud | oooh I have butterflies. yippee. |
| 23:12.45 | keldwud | can't believe I'm crushing on a bike like this. |
| 23:15.18 | keldwud | okay, who is spreading the HIV in the ketchup bottles in SLC meme? |
| 23:15.35 | keldwud | god I hate reactionary chain letters |
| 23:15.45 | keldwud | oh noes! dont eats teh ketchups! |
| 23:15.51 | keldwud | it haz HIV in it! |
| 23:16.14 | sontek | just respond with 'stop trying to cover it up, WHORE' |
| 23:16.15 | sontek | :p |
| 23:16.16 | keldwud | what pisses me off the most is that I actually hang out with people who would pass on such bullshit without checking the facts first |
| 23:16.36 | keldwud | oh I rip them a new asshole anytime somebody sends me such chain mail |
| 23:16.55 | keldwud | I talk down to them and make them feel like the brainless illiterate idiots that they are |
| 23:16.58 | keldwud | friend or not. |
| 23:17.32 | keldwud | one of my biggest pet peeves is friends that forward silly sensationalistic "READ ME OR DIE" messages.. |
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| 23:23.23 | keldwud | and that's a great idea sontek :) I am also thinking of creating a website for inputting numbers of people who send such texts. for all the internet to have fun with. |
| 23:23.37 | keldwud | it'll teach them to stop spamming useless shit. |
| 23:24.52 | keldwud | first of all.... how long does HIV survive outside of the human body? and what are the chances of contracting it from a ketchup bottle orally with no mouth sores or cuts? |
| 23:25.46 | keldwud | all it takes is five seconds to think about the information you are presented and you realize that if you have more questions than answers, maybe you should rethink your position about spreading fear and hatred before you press that send button. |
| 23:27.22 | keldwud | http://www.snopes.com/horrors/food/ketchup.asp |
| 23:28.01 | keldwud | I am calling them right now to yell at them. |
| 23:32.03 | keldwud | what I hate most about these is that they recycle themselves every year to two years. |
| 23:32.56 | Cyberkruz | I block people that send me forwards. My mommy had to beg to get to email me again :P |
| 23:33.21 | Cyberkruz | hi2u sontek. How is the greater Salt Lake area? |
| 23:33.25 | keldwud | oh I've blocked my family members too. haha |
| 23:33.56 | keldwud | I still have my mother blacklisted on both my phone and my email until she can learn how to be a responsible internet user. |
| 23:34.14 | keldwud | it's like having a child behind the wheels of a car. |
| 23:35.08 | keldwud | for some reason, just because it is the internet, all of their rational thinking get's thrown out the window. if you were to hear it in person you would be like, pshaw, and are not as likely to repeat it. but when it's an email, zomg somebody call the news station! |
| 23:35.16 | sontek | Hey Cyberkruz =) Its alright, just chilling with my homies (my dogs) |
| 23:37.14 | sontek | Cyberkruz: so now that you have Internet again... time to take over the world? |
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| 23:43.11 | Cyberkruz | sontek: lol.. Nice. =) Portland still sucks |
| 23:44.14 | sontek | Cyberkruz: I just don't go outside =) Life is great when all you do is code! |
| 23:44.57 | keldwud | and ride! dont forget about riding. |
| 23:45.13 | keldwud | is really trying to push the ride for open source or ride for coding idea. |
| 23:47.15 | sontek | I'd be up for getting everyone together out in the desert for some riding action |
| 23:47.27 | sontek | none of that boring Harley drive up and down the free way crap |
| 23:47.59 | sontek | 4 wheeler + beer + desert == geek fun |
| 23:49.00 | keldwud | I dont have any of those toys |
| 23:49.04 | keldwud | but I can bring beer |
| 23:49.10 | keldwud | and we can go shootin |
| 23:49.30 | keldwud | or maybe make a wi-fi antennae and see if we can get slc |
| 23:49.38 | keldwud | like they do at defcon :) |
| 23:51.04 | sontek | haha |
| 23:51.38 | sontek | my boss has a couple wheelers and a gator |
| 23:51.43 | sontek | that'd be enough to have some fun |
| 23:52.49 | Cyberkruz | Specially with the beer! |
| 23:53.13 | keldwud | bye. internet is getting shut off |
| 23:53.17 | keldwud | goin to get my new bike |
| 23:53.26 | sontek | keldwud: have fun! |
| 23:53.33 | sontek | break a leg! |
| 23:53.42 | sontek | I mean... |
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| 23:58.30 | Cyberkruz | Holy crap... They kept my account information since our sophomore year in high school in nickserv... lol |
| 23:58.56 | Cyberkruz | I had to use the teampass password.. lol |
| 23:59.01 | sontek | haha |
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