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| 00:17.52 | findlay | ~eval 1280*1024 |
| 00:18.25 | nick125 | findlay: 1310720 |
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| 00:26.19 | bsdice | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:52.38 | lakshmi | hi |
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| 01:55.43 | Tene | That's interesting. Firefox is eating 90% of my cpu, mainly with gettimeofday() |
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| 02:13.01 | nick125 | Sargun: Imagine having like...100 servers with 24x1TB drives each...That'd be pretty sweet, eh? |
| 02:13.25 | Sargun | uh... Can I get 96 500GB or 750 GB drives instead? |
| 02:13.31 | nick125 | lol |
| 02:13.57 | nick125 | 2.4PB of storage |
| 02:14.20 | nick125 | better yet, imagine a cluster of 500 of those boxes...12PB of storage |
| 02:19.18 | lakshmi | wii nix_chix0r |
| 02:19.20 | levi | Heh. |
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| 02:19.28 | nix_chix0r | hi |
| 02:19.30 | levi | "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of those!" |
| 02:19.34 | Sargun | wii? |
| 02:19.44 | levi | "Hot grits!" |
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| 02:44.10 | levi | Sweet, a startup using Seaside was just bought out. |
| 02:44.30 | nick125 | seaside? |
| 02:44.40 | elg | the little framework that could |
| 02:44.47 | levi | A web framework written in Smalltalk. |
| 02:44.51 | nick125 | aah |
| 02:45.10 | levi | It also powers DabbleDb, which was created by the guy who created Seaside. |
| 02:46.02 | levi | Apparently GNU Smalltalk will run Seaside soon, which will provide a nice opportunity for those who were turned off by Squeak's image-centric nature to play with it. |
| 02:49.13 | levi | auctomatic is the company that was just sold. |
| 02:50.08 | findlay | levi: I had a guy tell me once he wasn't interested in anything outside of c++/c#/java because it wasn't mainstream and therefore was useless |
| 02:50.31 | levi | findlay: I had a guy tell me once that he worshipped Satan. |
| 02:50.42 | Sargun | I worship levi |
| 02:50.43 | findlay | heh |
| 02:50.48 | Sargun | Is that as bad? |
| 02:50.53 | levi | findlay: He pulled down the neck of his shirt and showed me his pentagram. |
| 02:51.00 | levi | Sargun: Yes. |
| 02:51.03 | findlay | interesting |
| 02:52.08 | levi | findlay: Anyway, your guy sounds like the same sort of guy that would tell you that grad school is a waste of time and money, and will destroy your career. |
| 02:52.26 | findlay | levi: well I tried to explain smalltalk to him once and he responded with something like that it's so old it must be antiquated and therefore is useless in today's fast=paced microsoft centric world |
| 02:53.41 | findlay | pineapple goes well with a surprisingly wide array of food |
| 02:53.56 | findlay | is eating some burritos now with pineappple |
| 02:54.57 | findlay | levi: and perl/python/php were fringe hippy languages |
| 02:55.42 | levi | The fringe hippy languages that run the Web. :P |
| 02:55.50 | levi | I like pineapple. |
| 02:57.39 | nick125 | Sargun: hey... |
| 02:57.43 | Sargun | nick125, What's up |
| 02:57.54 | nick125 | Sargun: PM? |
| 02:58.04 | findlay | 'microsoft is all that. Why would you shortchange yourself and use linux?' It is so interesting that these people just can't understand |
| 02:59.58 | elg | learns about save and load in gnuplot |
| 03:00.48 | encryptz | i love the patented "i use the tool that best fits the job" as an excuse |
| 03:01.07 | findlay | or even OSX |
| 03:02.02 | findlay | it's so hard to take somebody seriously who so willingly demarks themself a pundit or a fanatic |
| 03:02.33 | Sargun | I am a pundit |
| 03:02.37 | Sargun | I am fantastic. |
| 03:02.49 | findlay | oh sure |
| 03:02.59 | findlay | what do you pundify and fanaticate? |
| 03:03.10 | levi | elg: What about them? |
| 03:03.16 | elg | i didn't know about them before |
| 03:03.27 | elg | and i wish I did |
| 03:03.31 | findlay | gnuplot++ |
| 03:03.35 | levi | I'm not sure I did either. Do they just save and load plots? |
| 03:03.54 | elg | so you do a bunch of interactive plotting |
| 03:04.00 | elg | then save "foo.gp" |
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| 03:08.02 | levi | Sweet. |
| 03:09.24 | elg | so you could write a "macro" that saves the state to foo.gp and replots to foo.pdf |
| 03:10.21 | elg | is reading a preview of http://principal-value.com/my-book.php |
| 03:10.49 | elg | "early access edition" |
| 03:10.52 | elg | review copy |
| 03:11.13 | levi | Nice. |
| 03:11.23 | elg | actually this chapter is free http://www.manning-source.com/books/janert/janert_meapch2.pdf |
| 03:11.36 | elg | though if you're a longtime gnuplot user i just told you all the new gems |
| 03:11.56 | elg | i imagine everyone knows about using and with and title |
| 03:12.04 | elg | oh, one other thing I didn't know was |
| 03:12.15 | levi | I wouldn't call myself a longtime user. I've fiddled with it a couple of times, though. |
| 03:12.24 | elg | plot "foo.dat" u 1:2 w l, "" u 1:3 w linespoints |
| 03:12.36 | elg | the "" infers the original "foo.dat" |
| 03:12.44 | elg | I've been typing way too much when using gnuplot |
| 03:12.54 | elg | in fact, if you did a second plot you could probably use "" in both places |
| 03:15.23 | findlay | ~plot elg |
| 03:15.24 | ibot | and elg plot many tricks, pranks and other sorts of mischief against TheRed Baron |
| 03:16.55 | findlay | http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Till_Eulenspiegels_lustige_Streiche |
| 04:04.54 | elg | why would anyone care about that link? |
| 04:24.53 | nick125 | Do you guys think it's worth the extra effort to run Hardened Gentoo (PaX/SELinux/Grsecurity) on a public web server? |
| 04:33.02 | Peregrinus | gnight all |
| 04:38.39 | elg | just any server? |
| 04:42.57 | nick125 | elg: It's probably going to get 10 hits a day. |
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| 04:59.25 | encryptz | nick125: nothing wrong with any extra security, imo |
| 05:00.04 | nick125 | encryptz: But is it worth the extra time to set it up and fix problems with it, and having to use outdated kernels and compilers? |
| 05:00.51 | encryptz | i don't know about pax or grsecurity, but you can setup selinux to stay completely out of your way |
| 05:00.56 | encryptz | that is, if you know what you're doing |
| 05:01.03 | encryptz | then, it's no hassle at all |
| 05:52.05 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:54.02 | findlay | heh |
| 05:54.06 | nick125 | Sargun: hey |
| 05:54.35 | nick125 | encryptz: Well, my main issue with hardened is having to use outdated stuff, such as gcc3.4.6 and 2.6.23 kernel |
| 05:54.54 | findlay | what's wrong with that |
| 05:54.58 | findlay | you can't have everything |
| 05:55.08 | Sargun | nick125, So, what should I get in my Sarvar. |
| 05:55.12 | Sargun | I'm building it |
| 05:55.19 | Sargun | rackmount or towar. |
| 05:55.24 | nick125 | Sargun: quad quad Xeons |
| 05:55.32 | nick125 | do you have a rack? |
| 05:55.38 | Sargun | Yeah |
| 05:55.43 | Sargun | 2 Post though |
| 05:55.45 | findlay | Sargun: do a rack of towers |
| 05:55.47 | Sargun | so I get a shelf. |
| 05:55.53 | nick125 | Sargun: eek. |
| 05:55.55 | Sargun | attacks findlay with a large rack. |
| 05:55.56 | findlay | best of both worlds |
| 05:56.03 | Sargun | breaks findlay's face |
| 05:56.15 | findlay | ~kill Sargun |
| 05:56.15 | ibot | ACTION shoots a inverse pseudoneutrino gun at Sargun |
| 05:56.20 | Sargun | causes findlay to drown in his own blood, and choke on his teeth. |
| 05:56.40 | findlay | ~shakespeare Sargun |
| 05:56.41 | ibot | ACTION stands up and quotes Shakespeare: Sargun - Sargun's brain is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage. |
| 05:56.52 | nick125 | Sargun: So, did you hear about that technology that Siemens came out for making EDGE faster? |
| 05:57.12 | Sargun | EDGE -- Fast hahahaha |
| 05:57.22 | findlay | nick125: Sargun's too busy trying to destroy me |
| 05:57.28 | nick125 | Still only 592kbit though. |
| 05:57.38 | nick125 | I got 1.2mbit on EvDO the other day...rev0 |
| 05:57.42 | findlay | and failing muwahahaha |
| 05:58.11 | Sargun | fails findlay |
| 05:58.20 | nick125 | oh, they might get 1mbit or so on EGPRS2 |
| 05:59.56 | nick125 | Why can't they kill off EDGE and move on? |
| 06:01.22 | Sargun | why can't I just get EvDO rev. b |
| 06:02.20 | nick125 | Oh god...I'm going to kill the next hofo poster that says Verizon is going GSM because they are going LTE. |
| 06:02.42 | Sargun | heh |
| 06:02.48 | nick125 | LTE != GSM |
| 06:03.10 | Sargun | nick125, should I just get a Dell Desktop |
| 06:03.24 | nick125 | for what? |
| 06:03.35 | Sargun | my 'server' |
| 06:04.28 | nick125 | Sargun: don't forget to get the cold cathode lights and LED fans |
| 06:08.05 | encryptz | nick125: "outdated" could mean "stable" |
| 06:08.31 | Sargun | encryptz, what are you, 40? |
| 06:08.43 | encryptz | uh... |
| 06:09.10 | encryptz | not quite |
| 06:09.26 | encryptz | what's the need for running bleeding edge on a hardened web server? |
| 06:10.07 | nick125 | I wonder if stuff like vmsplice works on this kernel or not |
| 06:11.07 | maquis | glares at taxes |
| 06:12.47 | Sargun | hehe |
| 06:13.22 | Sargun | encryptz, uh, I thought you were talking about GPRS/EDGE |
| 06:13.31 | nick125 | lol |
| 06:14.10 | encryptz | Sargun: no. i was talking about nick125 obsession with running bleeding edge software, such as gcc3.4.6 and the 2.6.23 kernel |
| 06:14.44 | Sargun | ah |
| 06:14.45 | Sargun | yeah |
| 06:14.49 | Sargun | I run 2.5 |
| 06:14.50 | Sargun | :-P |
| 06:14.56 | Sargun | git |
| 06:15.05 | encryptz | 2.6.18-5-sparc64 |
| 06:15.45 | Sargun | eww |
| 06:16.14 | nick125 | There's a difference between bleeding edge and not-vulnerable-to-security-issues |
| 06:16.39 | encryptz | agreed |
| 06:24.04 | Sargun | decides getting a better switch and 1 ethernet port'd server is a better idea than a multiport ethernet card |
| 06:25.06 | Sargun | probes nick125 |
| 06:25.44 | nick125 | hi |
| 06:27.25 | Sargun | Should I get a switch with PoE |
| 06:27.28 | Sargun | or PoE injectors? |
| 06:27.39 | nick125 | How many PoE devices? |
| 06:28.06 | nick125 | I love this modem |
| 06:28.32 | Sargun | 2 |
| 06:29.09 | Sargun | why are switches with a good telnet interface expensive |
| 06:29.16 | nick125 | "SBC help on how to enable Javascript in your browser can be found at http://help.sbcglobal.net" < That's nice, it's a Qwest modem, you tards. |
| 06:30.39 | nick125 | hmm...the line margins are pretty decent, but the attentuation is pretty high |
| 06:31.22 | nick125 | 30dB down/18dB up on the SNR, 41dB down/27dB up on the attentuation. |
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| 06:32.26 | Sargun | OOh, I like this switch: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124212 |
| 06:32.29 | Sargun | too expensive |
| 06:32.41 | nick125 | lol |
| 06:33.19 | Sargun | I wish Foundry switches were cheaper |
| 06:33.29 | findlay | ~switch Sargun |
| 06:33.38 | Sargun | ~switchblade findlay |
| 06:33.39 | Sargun | ~stab findlay |
| 06:33.40 | ibot | ACTION runs at findlay with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 06:35.49 | nick125 | replaces Sargun's DSL modem with an "advanced" 2700HG-D ADSL residential gateway |
| 06:36.07 | Sargun | Oh, shutup. |
| 06:36.25 | nick125 | What? |
| 06:36.47 | nick125 | It's a "Qwest(R) Advanced Networking Modem with Wireless". |
| 06:40.14 | nick125 | goes to bed |
| 06:40.23 | nick125 | night everyone |
| 06:41.56 | Sargun | night |
| 06:49.16 | maquis | grumbles something incomprehensible about morning and work, then collapses into bed... |
| 06:51.35 | Sargun | night |
| 06:51.47 | Sargun | maquis, its only 0:00 |
| 07:02.14 | Sargun | Dell's site is slow. |
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| 14:17.43 | ibot | onjoin for fozzmoo set by elg on Mon Feb 11 17:42:08 2008: ⺠|
| 14:17.48 | goozbach | nice |
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| 15:03.44 | ^Migs^ | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,342099,00.html |
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| 15:21.12 | lukfugl | thanks, ibot |
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| 15:27.42 | fozzmoo | Ahhh mascot talk. |
| 15:29.25 | Jayce^ | pushes fozzmoo to mention the Perl Onion |
| 15:29.53 | ^Migs^ | http://www.lolcatbible.com |
| 15:29.57 | ^Migs^ | Genesis 1:1: "Oh hai. In teh beginnin Ceiling Cat maded teh skiez An da Urfs, but he did not eated dem." |
| 15:29.59 | ^Migs^ | hahahahahahahaha |
| 15:36.29 | trip0 | Let him kiss me wit da kissus of hiz mouf-- |
| 15:36.29 | trip0 | Â for yer love be moar delitefool den cheezbugers. Srsly |
| 15:42.33 | tensai | I'm so tired of lolcats. it was funny maybe once. |
| 15:43.22 | findlay | loltensai! |
| 15:43.23 | fozzmoo | nods vigorously |
| 15:50.03 | ^Migs^ | I don't know if I can respect anyone who doesn't approve of lolcats |
| 15:50.33 | ^Migs^ | that's like saying you hate rainbows |
| 15:51.45 | sontek | I CAN HAZ MOAR LOLCATZ? |
| 15:51.53 | sontek | I subscribe to the rss feed. |
| 15:52.59 | findlay | IM IN UR SKOOL GETTIN UR DEGREZE |
| 15:53.24 | findlay | watches tensai convulse |
| 15:55.58 | fozzmoo | I like the pictures... but don't really... appreciate... the messages. |
| 15:56.29 | tensai | perhaps the art is being killed by so many lame wannabes. kinda like php. |
| 15:57.12 | tensai | I wouldn't be surprised to find out that php is the official programming language of lolcats or vice versa |
| 15:57.50 | fozzmoo | Ahhh. makewhatis is running. |
| 15:58.02 | findlay | makefozzmoo |
| 15:58.04 | fozzmoo | I was like, "What the heck is makin my hard drive spin like mad?!" |
| 15:58.17 | Supaplex | a mad servo |
| 15:58.22 | findlay | truly |
| 15:58.45 | findlay | get a flash drive. They don't spin at all, they only flash |
| 15:59.03 | fozzmoo | So, all the .exe files on our Samba server are infected with some Parite virus. |
| 15:59.12 | findlay | fun |
| 15:59.14 | fozzmoo | Yeah. |
| 15:59.28 | fozzmoo | I'm running a disinfection sweep on it now. |
| 15:59.34 | fozzmoo | I wish clamd would disinfect.' |
| 16:00.04 | fozzmoo | "Your leg has a hole in it and blood is seeping out at a fast rate." |
| 16:00.07 | fozzmoo | "Good to know." |
| 16:00.15 | fozzmoo | That's what it's like. |
| 16:09.03 | ^Migs^ | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,342329,00.html |
| 16:09.07 | ^Migs^ | LOS ANGELES . A Texas woman who said she was forced to remove a nipple ring with pliers in order to board an airplane called Thursday for an apology by federal security agents and a civil rights investigation. |
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| 16:09.44 | lukfugl | eek |
| 16:10.07 | nick125 | is still debating between vanilla Gentoo and Hardened Gentoo |
| 16:10.20 | ^Migs^ | Hamlin filed a complaint, but the TSA's customer service manager at the Lubbock airport concluded the screening was handled properly, Allred said. |
| 16:12.02 | findlay | I wsh wkipedia math articles would adopt a standard notation |
| 16:12.39 | Supaplex | chaos isn't a standard? |
| 16:13.10 | findlay | nor dfoe it indicate a notation |
| 16:13.13 | fozzmoo | AS I read that, I wondered about genital piercings. |
| 16:13.19 | findlay | does |
| 16:14.09 | fozzmoo | My brother in law told me his son won some contest at school and won a compass (for drawing circles) and a protractor. |
| 16:14.30 | fozzmoo | but then he was told he could not open the compass package until he got home, nor could he ever bring it back to the school. |
| 16:14.37 | ^Migs^ | ~onjoin #utah tensai http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=John_1#1 |
| 16:14.37 | ibot | ^Migs^: ok |
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| 16:16.03 | Tene | tensai: not lolcode? |
| 16:17.33 | lukfugl | can't bring a compass to school = super fail |
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| 16:18.34 | friocorte | ~seen goozbach |
| 16:18.37 | ibot | goozbach <n=goozbach@brooks.netradius.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #lugot, 1h 4m 24s ago, saying: ':)'. |
| 16:18.47 | friocorte | hmmm |
| 16:18.54 | friocorte | what happened to my host? |
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| 16:21.50 | Supaplex | 5 Teh lite iz pwns teh darks, but teh darks iz liek "Wtf." |
| 16:24.27 | ^Migs^ | hahaha |
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| 16:34.25 | findlay | hal is eating my battery |
| 16:34.39 | Supaplex | nom nom nom |
| 16:36.18 | findlay | ~eat Supaplex |
| 16:36.20 | ibot | ACTION slurps up all the Supaplex available |
| 16:36.35 | Supaplex | ~eat findlay's battery |
| 16:36.36 | ibot | That's too disgusting. |
| 16:36.43 | friocorte | hey goozbach's back! |
| 16:43.17 | tensai | ~onjoin -tensai |
| 16:43.17 | ibot | tensai: ok |
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| 16:50.42 | encryptz | ah yes. the lolcats craze. reminds me of the AOL lame nicks. EG: U|foo|U or XxXbarXxX |
| 16:59.27 | fozzmoo | Right. The stereotypical teenage chat lingo. |
| 17:05.23 | encryptz | netsplit a comin' |
| 17:10.52 | ^Migs^ | I don't think the AOL lame nicks craze is gone |
| 17:11.00 | ^Migs^ | I guess Internet crazes are never totally gone |
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| 17:16.30 | Tene | tensai: maybe tired of lolcats, but are you tired of lolrats? http://lolrats.blogspot.com/ |
| 17:23.23 | ^Migs^ | haha wtf http://www.nbc11.com/slideshow/news/15724758/detail.html |
| 17:23.40 | synic | Well, after looking at three of the images, I can say, yes, I am tired of lolrats |
| 17:24.29 | encryptz | meh. flash |
| 17:24.37 | findlay | how about loldogs? |
| 17:25.44 | sontek | lolemu? |
| 17:25.58 | encryptz | lolgnu! |
| 17:26.36 | ^Migs^ | I bet lolpenguinz would be a hit |
| 17:27.15 | sontek | I just had a great idea, one sec |
| 17:27.28 | ^Migs^ | how about lolwombats? http://spotblog.wordpress.com/lolwombats-by-ash_/ |
| 17:28.35 | tensai | I'm going to say I'm against lol anything |
| 17:28.49 | tensai | the whole genre is dead to me |
| 17:29.45 | encryptz | lol in and of itself is lame. first off, it's always misused |
| 17:30.17 | encryptz | lol = laughing out loud, which means it should be given in the 3rd person, not the 1st |
| 17:30.19 | encryptz | is lol |
| 17:30.44 | synic | heh, the first part of the topic in #python is where it's at. |
| 17:31.19 | encryptz | bingo |
| 17:32.28 | ^Migs^ | http://www.shipmentoffail.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/timberfail.jpg |
| 17:33.03 | Supaplex | heh cool |
| 17:33.35 | Supaplex | looks like a photoshop job anyway |
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| 17:35.43 | vontrapp | i don't think my last.fm is working :( |
| 17:35.51 | vontrapp | anyone use it with xmms? |
| 17:36.14 | Supaplex | just an ipod here |
| 17:36.29 | sontek | http://sontek.net/nom.jpg |
| 17:39.41 | findlay | xmms? |
| 17:39.49 | sontek | xmms is obsolete! |
| 17:39.59 | vontrapp | nothing else does imms! |
| 17:40.00 | fozzmoo | goozbach: You're just a muslim hater. :) |
| 17:40.12 | vontrapp | sits stubbornly on his xmms |
| 17:40.12 | Supaplex | xmms2++ |
| 17:40.15 | vontrapp | blech |
| 17:40.17 | fozzmoo | amarok++ |
| 17:40.25 | jsmith | vagalume! |
| 17:40.27 | tensai | amarok++ |
| 17:40.32 | vontrapp | rad++ |
| 17:40.34 | Supaplex | free ipod shuffle++ (esp the free part) |
| 17:40.36 | tensai | high fives fozzmoo |
| 17:40.38 | vontrapp | (if it ever gets written) |
| 17:40.52 | fozzmoo | tensai: Better wash that hand. I've got a nasty cold. |
| 17:40.54 | vontrapp | ipod = blech |
| 17:41.10 | goozbach | it hurts me to say this about a KDE app but... |
| 17:41.13 | goozbach | amarok++ |
| 17:41.16 | fozzmoo | :-D |
| 17:41.16 | findlay | haha |
| 17:41.22 | tensai | fozzmoo: I'm pretty sure the resident bacteria will kill anything new that comes along |
| 17:41.27 | Supaplex | my 12" video ipod doesn't get as much use now |
| 17:41.27 | vontrapp | does amarok do imms per chance? |
| 17:41.31 | sontek | http://sontek.net/lolgnu/shave.jpg |
| 17:41.37 | synic | what's imms? |
| 17:41.51 | fozzmoo | goozbach: So, you're getting the "Obama won't say the pledge" e-mail too, eh? |
| 17:41.55 | vontrapp | only the awesomest listening aid ever! |
| 17:42.23 | fozzmoo | Institute for Marine Mammal Studies |
| 17:42.38 | fozzmoo | Oh here it is: Intelligent Multimedia Management System |
| 17:42.49 | goozbach | fozzmoo: I get all sorts of hyper forwarded emails. |
| 17:43.12 | fozzmoo | Yeah- my dad does too... he usually vets them with me before he forwards them on. :) |
| 17:43.16 | fozzmoo | I've trained him well. |
| 17:43.40 | goozbach | every time I do, I go to snopes, find the article, and reply-to-all stating that "these falsehoods will not die until everybody looks at snopes before posting" |
| 17:43.50 | fozzmoo | But lately, the perpetrators of these messages are getting clever and they're putting "I checked this out on snopes and it's true!" in their messages. |
| 17:44.08 | fozzmoo | So, my dad may forward them on without talking to me. |
| 17:45.22 | vontrapp | i was going to say is it a surprise he won't pledge? then i realized it was obama, not osama |
| 17:45.28 | vontrapp | :) |
| 17:45.56 | sontek | pledging is for sissies, real men blow up other countries |
| 17:46.02 | fozzmoo | Truth be told, he didn't put his hand over his heart during the national anthem. That's what the picture is of. |
| 17:46.40 | fozzmoo | I think he's an anti-American racist, myself... but that's just me. He does and will say the pledge. |
| 17:48.55 | fozzmoo | (Just for show.) |
| 17:49.01 | sontek | darn them blacks being anti-american |
| 17:49.16 | sontek | we should've never brought them overseas! |
| 17:49.17 | fozzmoo | America is only for typical white people, you know? |
| 17:49.30 | sontek | i'm ok with a few rich whities too |
| 17:49.36 | sontek | if I happen to be one of them |
| 17:50.04 | sontek | I met that guy that started the gas station with the dinosaur and little america |
| 17:50.09 | JoshH | what do you think makes an anti-american? he probably likes some things about america, and doesn't like others, like most people. |
| 17:50.11 | sontek | think he'll give me his monies? |
| 17:50.27 | vontrapp | actually, america is for sissypants losers who want everyone else to do everything for them |
| 17:50.32 | sontek | JoshH: hes _black_ if that doesn't make him anti-american, I don't know what does! |
| 17:50.48 | sontek | JoshH: i'm just joking, I don't mind Obama |
| 17:50.54 | fozzmoo | JoshH: I should clarify. I think he's anti-capitalism. |
| 17:50.57 | JoshH | heh i can tell |
| 17:51.07 | fozzmoo | And pro-socialism. |
| 17:51.15 | Jayce^ | fozzmoo, and anti-individual rights and responsibilities |
| 17:51.18 | fozzmoo | Right. |
| 17:51.24 | JoshH | i think he's in the middle somewhere |
| 17:51.27 | Jayce^ | pro international-collectivism |
| 17:51.41 | fozzmoo | JoshH: I think he wants everyone to believe he's your typical centrist. :) |
| 17:52.02 | Jayce^ | he states that the california gun laws don't go nearly far-enough.. that's definately *not* in the middle |
| 17:52.13 | vontrapp | eeks |
| 17:52.29 | fozzmoo | is going to buy his first firearm soon. |
| 17:52.37 | Jayce^ | is awaiting his CCW |
| 17:52.51 | fozzmoo | Just waiting for a check from a contract job... |
| 17:52.59 | fozzmoo | then off to the Glock store for me. |
| 17:53.01 | JoshH | i meant somewhere in the middle between capitalism and socialism |
| 17:53.13 | JoshH | most people aren't extremely to one side |
| 17:53.14 | fozzmoo | JoshH: Depends on what scale you're on... |
| 17:53.17 | Jayce^ | fozzmoo, s/glock/springfield/ :) |
| 17:53.25 | fozzmoo | I mean, he is THE most liberal senator in the senate. |
| 17:53.30 | vontrapp | ah there it is! my scrobbles are scrobbling |
| 17:53.31 | fozzmoo | I woudln't say he's in the middle there. |
| 17:53.34 | vontrapp | w00t |
| 17:53.38 | Jayce^ | and that's tough for a first-term |
| 17:53.53 | tensai | fozzmoo: I thought kerry was the most liberal senator. sounds like that term gets bandied about a bit much. |
| 17:53.59 | JoshH | he's liked by lots of republicans though |
| 17:54.00 | vontrapp | he's in the middle of the current spectrum, but he's WAY off where it really matters |
| 17:54.06 | vontrapp | so is EVERYONE else though |
| 17:54.12 | JoshH | not only because they hate mccain |
| 17:54.15 | fozzmoo | tensai: Obama's only been in 3 years. |
| 17:54.20 | Jayce^ | when you propose a bill that taxes the national GDP, and sends it to the UN for it's choice in dispersement.. that's liberal :) |
| 17:54.32 | fozzmoo | Jayce^: Indeedly so. |
| 17:54.51 | Jayce^ | tensai, they rerank every big election.. |
| 17:55.13 | JoshH | who do you consider a good conservative these days? |
| 17:55.21 | fozzmoo | McCain is probably the most liberal republican in the senate. :) |
| 17:55.33 | vontrapp | most liberal senator isn't a lifetime calling, ya know |
| 17:55.40 | Jayce^ | fozzmoo, if not *the*, then right around there |
| 17:55.46 | tensai | still sounds fishy to me. the democratic candidate just happens to be the most liberal person alive. ah, run away! |
| 17:56.02 | vontrapp | i might say hillary is more liberal |
| 17:56.10 | JoshH | i think mccain is ok, i'm just afraid of him dying or getting dementia during his first few years and leaving us with an ultraconservative VP in charge |
| 17:56.14 | Jayce^ | tensai, always good to check, but if you'll note, hillary has moved down quite a bit this time |
| 17:56.31 | Jayce^ | vontrapp, liberal overall, yes, but not as much when you look at voting records |
| 17:57.03 | Jayce^ | JoshH, "getting" dementia? that's one area where he really is progressive :) |
| 17:57.17 | vontrapp | what if you reduce hillary's record to the same three years obama has been there? |
| 17:57.25 | vontrapp | just curious |
| 17:57.32 | vontrapp | Jayce^: haha |
| 17:57.37 | fozzmoo | vontrapp: Hillary voted for the war (before she voted against it.) |
| 17:57.39 | Jayce^ | vontrapp, she's pretty close to mccain in that span |
| 17:57.45 | fozzmoo | Yeah. |
| 17:57.47 | vontrapp | i hope that lump on his neck turns malignant |
| 17:57.53 | fozzmoo | She and McCain are good buddies. |
| 17:58.08 | vontrapp | my wife gets mad when i say that |
| 17:58.10 | fozzmoo | I find it just... crazy that the current choices are all senators. |
| 17:58.22 | vontrapp | she thinks it's a horrible thing to wish upon any person |
| 17:58.33 | JoshH | you don't agree with her? |
| 17:58.33 | Jayce^ | of course, the dems want the huckster to run with maccain, so they can say how evil he is, but if he becomes pres, they'll love it, because he has a very social agenda for spending and programs |
| 17:58.47 | vontrapp | well, generally i would... but it's mccain! |
| 17:58.48 | JoshH | um, no |
| 17:58.59 | fozzmoo | I think the last senator that got elected was JFK. |
| 17:59.00 | JoshH | liberals really don't want the huckster anywhere near the white house |
| 17:59.12 | JoshH | big spender or no |
| 17:59.17 | fozzmoo | We usually elect people with executive and leadership experience |
| 17:59.34 | tensai | the big question is, who does the westboro baptist church support? that's who I'm voting for. |
| 17:59.40 | vontrapp | well supposedly mccain has that experience |
| 17:59.41 | Jayce^ | JoshH, they want him to run because they can destroy him, but if he got in as VP, and then got into the hot seat, he'd act like one of them |
| 17:59.46 | vontrapp | i say phoey to that |
| 17:59.53 | JoshH | not exactly |
| 18:00.16 | Jayce^ | tensai, they sure have a lot in common with obama's pastor :) |
| 18:00.17 | fozzmoo | Papers are saying McCain might pick Romney or Gov. Huntsman as his veep. |
| 18:00.31 | JoshH | honestly, the republicans really can't argue about who would spend more this time |
| 18:00.40 | fozzmoo | JoshH: You're right. |
| 18:00.46 | vontrapp | yeps |
| 18:00.52 | fozzmoo | If we were all honest, we'd be voting for Ron Paul. |
| 18:00.58 | fozzmoo | But since we're not all honest... |
| 18:01.00 | fozzmoo | oh well. |
| 18:01.04 | vontrapp | :( |
| 18:01.04 | findlay | oooh, not wikipedia |
| 18:01.11 | findlay | that's so unreliable |
| 18:01.13 | fozzmoo | Oh no! |
| 18:01.13 | Jayce^ | because bush did exactly as promised when he was voted in.. I reached out and did what the dems wanted... and they still hate him :-p |
| 18:01.15 | fozzmoo | Adam's here! |
| 18:01.15 | tensai | ~wikipedia findlay |
| 18:01.17 | fozzmoo | He's taking me away. |
| 18:01.20 | fozzmoo | to lunch! |
| 18:01.21 | fozzmoo | ahhhh |
| 18:01.55 | vontrapp | i remember bush promising a humble foreign policy |
| 18:02.01 | vontrapp | so much for that |
| 18:02.21 | Jayce^ | well, his first year it was |
| 18:02.56 | tensai | Jayce^: last few years the dems have been kowtowing to bush. spineless ninnies. |
| 18:03.36 | Jayce^ | tensai, I wouldnt' say kowtowing to *him*... I'd say more just getting caught in political games (and more than just them) |
| 18:03.52 | JoshH | the dems have been using the excuse that they don't have enough of a majority to do anything, but they really haven't put up a fight at all, about anything |
| 18:03.53 | Jayce^ | too much smiliing for the camera, and hiding what's really being done |
| 18:04.35 | vontrapp | geez, my mythbox clock keeps getting way behind |
| 18:04.38 | vontrapp | stupid thing |
| 18:04.57 | JoshH | i love how hillary has always been a big nafta supporter, but now promises ohio that she will do something about it |
| 18:06.10 | findlay | well, tarriffs are bad pretty much however you look at them |
| 18:08.31 | tensai | heh. people from minnesota are fun to talk to. |
| 18:08.45 | Jayce^ | findlay, not necessarily :) |
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| 18:19.12 | vontrapp | s/findlay/tensai/ |
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| 18:39.46 | encryptz | likes his walther p99 |
| 18:41.29 | Sargun | PP7 |
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| 18:42.11 | encryptz | ambidexterous mag release, adjustable grip and sights, laser/light slide... |
| 18:42.43 | encryptz | less kick than an equiv glock, and greater accuracy, in my experience |
| 18:43.31 | JoshH | i'm a USP fan |
| 18:43.47 | JoshH | never liked the feel of glocks |
| 18:44.46 | encryptz | glocks have always felt light on the barrel. i like something with a bit of weight there |
| 18:45.17 | goozbach | USP FTW |
| 18:45.36 | goozbach | I always wanted a USP Match |
| 18:45.39 | JoshH | i like the standard sized USP .40, i shoot great with it and love the feel. too big to carry concealed, but i don't do that anyway |
| 18:46.12 | encryptz | yeah. the p99 9mm that i own is a bit large. but man, that's a fun gun to shoot |
| 18:48.57 | jsmith | still prefers a glock 22 |
| 18:51.31 | encryptz | anyone seen the s&w 50cal 6-shooter? something like 18lbs witha 13-14" butt to tip length? |
| 18:51.39 | encryptz | i hear that things kicks like no other |
| 18:52.56 | encryptz | http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=215 |
| 18:53.43 | encryptz | s/18/?/ |
| 18:53.51 | encryptz | has only heard stories |
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| 18:58.16 | nick125 | I'm looking for something to do system backups to disk...ideas? |
| 18:58.45 | fozzmoo | bacula? |
| 18:58.50 | fozzmoo | tar? |
| 18:58.51 | jsmith | nick125: rdiff-backup |
| 19:00.43 | goozbach | dump |
| 19:01.10 | jsmith | goozbach: dd | nc |
| 19:01.29 | jsmith | goozbach: Or even better dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda |
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| 19:01.39 | nick125 | jsmith: That backup option is the best. |
| 19:07.15 | elg | backuppc |
| 19:07.25 | Tene | I like letting google do my backups for me. dd if=/dev/sda | nc google.com 80 |
| 19:17.30 | fozzmoo | Tene: You rock. ;-) |
| 19:17.41 | Tene | fozzmoo: thanks |
| 19:17.55 | fozzmoo | There's probably a way to use google's crawler to back up stuff for you. |
| 19:18.02 | ^Migs^ | http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/03/28/state/n084250D39.DTL&tsp=1 |
| 19:18.08 | fozzmoo | Then, if you need it, just go hit the cache. |
| 19:18.18 | ^Migs^ | Lopez and her 18-year-old sister Carol, both of them mothers from Santa Ana, died in the Jan. 27 crash. Investigators found a half-tank of nitrous oxide on the floor at the foot of front passenger's seat. |
| 19:18.37 | fozzmoo | And that is relevant how? |
| 19:18.59 | trip0 | nitrous oxide = terrorism |
| 19:19.09 | ^Migs^ | couple of champs there |
| 19:19.29 | fozzmoo | Nitrous oxide is also used to add oomph to car engines. |
| 19:19.47 | fozzmoo | Maybe they used the first half to go fast, lost control, and hit the tree. |
| 19:19.53 | trip0 | can't you also use it in tires? or is that just pure nitrogen? |
| 19:20.06 | fozzmoo | No idea. |
| 19:20.43 | fozzmoo | If they were inhaling it as the report suggests, it would have been funny to hear them scream as they approached the tree. |
| 19:20.46 | fozzmoo | :-D |
| 19:20.55 | elg | i think you should fill your tires with hydrogen |
| 19:20.55 | fozzmoo | Oh wait, that's helium. |
| 19:21.09 | fozzmoo | Nitrous doesn't do anything to your voice. Never mind. |
| 19:21.53 | Jayce^ | fozzmoo, it would have been funny for them though |
| 19:21.56 | Jayce^ | (it's laughing gas) |
| 19:22.29 | elg | lolcrash |
| 19:22.55 | fozzmoo | But if it were helium, that would have been hilarious. |
| 19:23.11 | macnewbold | like tiny little squirrel screams |
| 19:23.15 | fozzmoo | yep |
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| 19:23.56 | elg | dmdavis: are you sure you want to join irc? |
| 19:24.07 | dmdavis | elg: why? |
| 19:24.33 | elg | all these websites and anecdotes prove that IRC isn't necessary to get a good job |
| 19:24.40 | dmdavis | :) |
| 19:25.10 | dmdavis | elg: for what it's worth, I agree with everything everyone has said. |
| 19:25.36 | dmdavis | elg: we had a guy interview here to be an entry level programmer, and he had his PhD. That did not stand him in good stead |
| 19:25.50 | Tene | elg: I got both of my good jobs from IRC. |
| 19:26.01 | dmdavis | elg: but, as most people noticed, I want to be a researcher. so, there we are. |
| 19:26.25 | Tene | elg: I would have never gotten either of those jobs if I hadn't had IRC. |
| 19:26.31 | dmdavis | Tene: sure, but the time you spent in IRC getting those jobs could have been spent working on other projects, and you would have made more money |
| 19:26.51 | dmdavis | j/k, in case that's not clear |
| 19:28.08 | dmdavis | and, while I'm going in on a PhD track, I'm making sure I have the option of checking out early with a masters if I decide that research is not my thing |
| 19:28.10 | elg | Tene: plus, using IRC makes you overqualified |
| 19:28.13 | elg | or maybe pompous |
| 19:28.23 | dmdavis | not going to get the PhD unless research is definitely my end goal |
| 19:29.02 | dmdavis | true, if two people have the same skill sets, why pay more for one just because they use IRC? Hire the non-IRC one, any day |
| 19:30.02 | elg | because they have access to the collective knowledge of #utah, of course |
| 19:30.12 | elg | it's like a p2p distributed brain |
| 19:30.16 | dmdavis | :) |
| 19:30.40 | dmdavis | and just like a real brain, it periodically shares links to lolcats... |
| 19:30.52 | levi | If you don't mind that most of its traffic is about treos, paintball guns, and politics. |
| 19:31.01 | *** topic/#utah by elg -> #utah - a p2p distributed superbrain | http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | UTOSC 2008 Call for Papers @ http://2008.utosc.com |
| 19:31.29 | elg | hey, my brain is more off-topic than on-topic, so I think it's fairly accurate |
| 19:31.35 | goozbach | my entire career is based of of joining IRC |
| 19:31.53 | dmdavis | elg: I wish you had told me about headphone.com before I just got my new set |
| 19:31.55 | levi | elg: Your brain, substantial thought it may be, is unfortunately only a small portion of the channel. |
| 19:32.04 | goozbach | it was #linux on fslc which taught me Linux |
| 19:32.08 | elg | speaking of which I need to be productive |
| 19:32.19 | goozbach | and it was fozzmoo's suggestion which got me the job at Guru |
| 19:32.33 | goozbach | and it was the Guru job which got me the contract gig in FL |
| 19:32.35 | elg | i'm tricking myself into productivity with a token economy |
| 19:32.51 | elg | dmdavis: sorry man. headphone.com rocks |
| 19:32.58 | levi | dmdavis: Ph.D holders who are looking for entry-level programmer jobs probably really suck, unless their Ph.D was in another field. The good Ph.Ds aren't going to even apply for such jobs. |
| 19:33.00 | goozbach | and it was the contract job in FL which made it possible for me to meet my then-to-be-future wife |
| 19:33.01 | elg | oh, and bose is mostly marketing |
| 19:33.13 | levi | Go for JBL headphones. :) |
| 19:33.17 | levi | Or AKG. |
| 19:33.18 | goozbach | and it was meeting my then-to-be-future wife which made me look for a job in Atlanta |
| 19:33.23 | goozbach | and I'm here! |
| 19:33.24 | dmdavis | elg: I'm just not sure I can read it now. I don't want to have buyers remorse |
| 19:33.52 | dmdavis | levi: yeah, I figured as such. but, it was still a bit distressing considering my current goal of grad school |
| 19:33.52 | elg | sennheiser seems to have a nice balance in quality and affordability, but I don't have a large sample to base that on. just a couple pairs that I've been happy with every time |
| 19:34.08 | elg | dmdavis: you could "accidentally" sit on your headphones |
| 19:34.10 | dmdavis | elg: I just got the sennheiser cx300. love them so far |
| 19:34.49 | levi | dmdavis: Somehow, some guys manage to get through the PhD program without picking up any practical skill whatsoever, and then decide to go look for an industry job. Not a smart thing to do. |
| 19:35.46 | dmdavis | true |
| 19:36.52 | levi | Running across those guys isn't a real indication of what CS PhDs are like. |
| 19:37.40 | sontek | goozbach: I have a similar story =) IRC saves lives |
| 19:37.51 | dmdavis | I'm not too worried about it. I know what I want to do, and I know the path to get there. well, except for which College the path should start from. :) |
| 19:37.53 | levi | The really good ones are scooped up by universities or the research divisions of companies. |
| 19:38.19 | levi | Huh, headphones.com doesn't have JBL headphones. |
| 19:38.39 | elg | no not headphones.com |
| 19:38.41 | elg | headphone.com |
| 19:38.43 | elg | headroom |
| 19:38.47 | levi | Er, right. |
| 19:38.53 | levi | I typed the url in correctly the first time. |
| 19:39.00 | elg | ok :) |
| 19:39.01 | levi | They have AKG, but not JBL. |
| 19:39.12 | goozbach | sontek: the best part... my wife was on IRC *LONG* before I was |
| 19:39.15 | elg | i'm sure it's possible they don't sell every brand, even every good brand |
| 19:39.35 | levi | These are pretty cool: http://www.jbl.com/home/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=JBLREF420BLKP&Language=ENG&Country=CA&Region=USA&cat=HPH&ser=HDP |
| 19:40.06 | levi | They've got really deep ear-cups. |
| 19:40.54 | elg | i called the headroom guys and asked about ear sizes |
| 19:41.08 | elg | being my ears, whlie not proportionally overlarge are bigger than average Joe's |
| 19:41.12 | dmdavis | I personally like the in-ear or buds, because I use them more when running and travelling then any other time |
| 19:41.24 | elg | i wanted around-ear cup but I didnt want it hurting my ears |
| 19:41.32 | levi | JBL makes some decent earbuds, too. |
| 19:41.39 | elg | they were very helpfula nd we decided the best thing was probably just a flat on-ear kind, which is what I ended up getting |
| 19:41.43 | elg | they're very comfortable |
| 19:42.18 | levi | I love my AKG 271 Studio headphones. |
| 19:42.46 | Jayce^ | levi, I keep seeing the AKG, and think you're talking rifles :) |
| 19:43.55 | eggyknap | Surprising how often firearms come up on this channel :) |
| 19:44.20 | eggyknap | When/if I get to the point of purchasing such things, I'll have to bring it here for reviews before signing the check. |
| 19:44.39 | levi | JBL also makes the 610, whch is just like the 520 except it does bluetooth. |
| 19:44.44 | elg | if you want to buy grenades, Jayce^ has a stash |
| 19:45.21 | eggyknap | I guess this *is* Utah, after all *grin* |
| 19:45.27 | elg | ~echelon |
| 19:45.27 | ibot | echelon can be found at http://www.gn.apc.org/duncan/echelon-dc.htm or at http://www.iptvreports.mcmail.com/ic2kreport.htm |
| 19:45.38 | Jayce^ | as long as you are in my 'Castle'.. you are fair game :) |
| 19:47.01 | dmdavis | levi: what we really need is bluetooth ear buds, so I don't have to deal with the wire when running :) |
| 19:50.36 | levi | I hope no one bids against me for this eBay item. |
| 19:50.57 | Jayce^ | which item was that? :-p |
| 19:51.08 | levi | Hah, you'd probably bid just to spite me. :P |
| 19:51.20 | levi | It's a replacement computer part I need. |
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| 20:02.50 | sontek | bids on the item and then sells it to levi with 15% markup |
| 20:06.15 | elg | bids on ebay |
| 20:06.20 | elg | i hope i win |
| 20:06.38 | levi | elg: What would you do with it if you won? |
| 20:06.58 | Supaplex | celebrate |
| 20:07.20 | elg | sell it |
| 20:07.22 | elg | and retire |
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| 20:25.33 | findlay | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:26.55 | beandog | MDR? |
| 20:27.08 | elg | they're the headphones wagner wore |
| 20:28.19 | ^Migs^ | ~onjoin #utah tensai http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Matthew_5 |
| 20:28.19 | ibot | ^Migs^: ok |
| 20:28.28 | findlay | they're the best value earphones out there in the $100-$299 range |
| 20:28.33 | findlay | and they can be gotten for $100 |
| 20:28.45 | findlay | easily the best compared with the other ones I tried |
| 20:28.55 | beandog | I like my $3 airbuds they gave me on the airplane |
| 20:28.59 | beandog | er, earbuds |
| 20:29.09 | findlay | excellent volume/spatial/range fidelity |
| 20:29.37 | findlay | speaking of weapons |
| 20:30.38 | findlay | calling all paintball gun owners to converge on provo to show that stupid bridal fair what we think of their repugnant, overubiquitous advertising |
| 20:31.21 | findlay | heh, airbuds |
| 20:31.37 | findlay | beandog: sounds like a good brand name. You should take it |
| 20:32.00 | vontrapp | hates earbuds |
| 20:32.01 | dmdavis | findlay: actually, it sounds like a cheesy disney movie sequel |
| 20:32.03 | beandog | heh |
| 20:32.10 | vontrapp | but maybe that's cause i've never had quality ones |
| 20:32.24 | vontrapp | but they always hurt my ear after no more than an hour |
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| 20:44.38 | trip0 | is there an envy that tells the kernel to do a core dump |
| 20:44.48 | trip0 | when an app seg faults |
| 20:44.49 | trip0 | ? |
| 20:45.42 | findlay | appenvy? |
| 20:46.05 | trip0 | envvar* |
| 20:46.07 | jsmith | trip0: ulimit -c? |
| 20:46.15 | findlay | sys-apps/appenvy - causes your other apps to segfault |
| 20:46.28 | jsmith | trip0: It's not an environment variable... it's a system-wide setting |
| 20:47.24 | trip0 | i want an output of the stack when my app seg faults |
| 20:47.41 | jsmith | trip0: "ulimit -c unlimited" |
| 20:47.46 | jsmith | trip0: Then get your app to segfault |
| 20:48.10 | jsmith | trip0: Then do something like "gdb /path/to/your/app /tmp/core.pid |
| 20:48.22 | jsmith | trip0: Once you've got the core file open in gdb, type "bt full" |
| 20:48.31 | jsmith | That'll give you the back trace |
| 20:48.50 | trip0 | so you still need gdb to read the dump to get the stack trace? |
| 20:49.44 | jsmith | Yes |
| 20:51.33 | findlay | I wish I could pump my tires higher than 40 PSI |
| 20:51.53 | findlay | get better fuel economy |
| 20:51.58 | findlay | and feel the road better :) |
| 20:52.09 | findlay | maybe I should get some of those flat rims |
| 20:52.27 | findlay | they would look really funny on my old car |
| 20:52.55 | findlay | tries to imagine |
| 20:53.00 | findlay | fails |
| 20:53.57 | tensai | findlay: elliptic fail! |
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| 21:02.25 | Supaplex | woops. rdate kicked xorg in the pants. sig11 is fuuunnnn |
| 21:04.42 | findlay | ~sig11 |
| 21:04.43 | ibot | it has been said that sig11 is Process Signal 11, SEGV (Segment Violation or Segmentation Fault). The program has been smacked down by the kernel for accessing memory outside its segment; indicates a bug in the software, or, with memory-intensive software like gcc, may indicate failing RAM. See the Sig11 FAQ at http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ |
| 21:06.31 | sontek | ~sig11 findlay |
| 21:06.47 | sontek | aww, findlay is immune to SEGV! |
| 21:07.01 | Supaplex | no brain no gain |
| 21:07.10 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 21:09.14 | sontek | haha |
| 21:13.11 | sjansen | ~kill -TERM Supaplex |
| 21:13.11 | ibot | ACTION shoots a ionized proton gun at -TERM Supaplex |
| 21:13.24 | Supaplex | ignores it |
| 21:14.43 | elg | wonders if you can use rate 0 with htb |
| 21:14.51 | sjansen | resizes Supaplex's terminal to 8x4 then sends repeated SIGWINCH until he notices |
| 21:16.38 | goozbach | ~sig15 |
| 21:18.17 | elg | ~kill 15 goozbach |
| 21:18.17 | ibot | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged anti-proton gun at 15 goozbach |
| 21:18.28 | elg | too many goozbach! |
| 21:35.39 | elg | so any qemu users know how to turn off the default firewall? |
| 21:35.45 | elg | I don't want to punch holes. I want the thing OFF |
| 21:47.24 | Supaplex | default firewall? as in default natting wannabe nic? |
| 21:47.48 | Supaplex | -net none use it alone to have zero network devices; if no -net option is provided, the default is '-net nic -net user' |
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| 22:29.06 | sjansen | elg: It's not a firewall. It's just that -net user only supports TCP. If you want a real network connection, you want to use bridging. |
| 22:33.24 | Supaplex | udp too (dns works last I recall) |
| 22:34.01 | sjansen | IIRC, it has a built in DHCP server and DNS proxy. |
| 22:34.14 | sjansen | So no, not general purpose UDP. |
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| 22:34.26 | Supaplex | ahh |
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| 22:57.49 | nick125 | JFS or ext3 for /home? /? |
| 23:00.41 | goozbach | ext3 |
| 23:00.50 | goozbach | it's easily resizeable |
| 23:04.00 | nick125 | http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/extendlv.html < According to that, JFS isn't too hard to resize |
| 23:04.34 | nick125 | But ah...you can increase but not decrease the size of JFS. |
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| 23:12.24 | nick125 | goes with ext3 then.. |
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| 23:18.11 | findlay | do you ever anticipate decreasing your partition size? |
| 23:18.29 | sjansen | s/partition/filesystem/ |
| 23:18.43 | nick125 | findlay: Possibly. |
| 23:19.13 | dmdavis | quit happy weekend |
| 23:19.18 | dmdavis | wow, that's embarassing |
| 23:19.55 | nick125 | lol |
| 23:20.06 | findlay | just goes to show you what a graduate degree will do for you |
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