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| 01:37.34 | Sargun | hullo all! |
| 01:40.46 | nearn | howdy |
| 01:58.46 | Sargun | How do you select all non-unique data from sqlite? |
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| 03:10.39 | vontrapp | anyone else having problems with google apps? |
| 03:21.48 | Tene | Sargun: SQL. |
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| 04:22.07 | Tene | I keep reading that as 'redirect' instead of 'greater than'. |
| 04:31.12 | tensai | ~onjoin dataw0lf PHP -gt /dev/null (just barely) |
| 04:31.12 | ibot | ok, tensai |
| 04:31.21 | tensai | Tene: better? |
| 04:35.40 | dataw0lf | ~onjoin dataw0lf RSpec > Test::Unit |
| 04:35.40 | ibot | dataw0lf: ok |
| 04:35.42 | dataw0lf | >_< |
| 04:52.37 | Supaplex | \o/ dilvie is back home |
| 04:53.05 | Supaplex | welcome home party at my place |
| 04:53.16 | Supaplex | bring beer and hot women |
| 04:53.23 | Supaplex | so types the dilvie :P |
| 04:54.20 | Supaplex | ~seen dilvie |
| 04:54.23 | ibot | dilvie <n=chatzill@c-67-166-124-182.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 219d 3h 59m 58s ago, saying: 'retaliate?'. |
| 04:54.30 | Supaplex | hahahaa :P |
| 04:55.41 | Supaplex | !seen _dilvie |
| 04:55.53 | Supaplex | ~seen _dilvie |
| 04:55.54 | ibot | _dilvie <n=chatzill@c-67-161-253-245.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 745d 1h 26m 32s ago, saying: 'not I'. |
| 04:56.06 | Supaplex | ~seen dilvie_ |
| 04:56.07 | ibot | dilvie_ <n=dilvie@c-67-161-255-229.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 685d 2h 54s ago, saying: 'my job here is done.'. |
| 04:56.41 | Supaplex | -seen dilvie |
| 04:56.41 | brac | dilvie was last seen 79 days, 18 hours, 17 minutes and 23 seconds ago, quitting IRC ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") |
| 04:56.53 | Supaplex | ah ha. ibot was AWOL :P |
| 04:57.01 | Supaplex | or dain brammaged |
| 05:03.37 | nick125 | Anyone here have any experience with iStarUSA? |
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| 05:36.46 | sontek | Hey, someone who knows perl better than I: $command = "d"; print $command == "u"; returns 1 |
| 05:36.50 | sontek | why is this? |
| 05:37.29 | nick125 | you are printing whether or not $command is equal to 'u', not setting the value. |
| 05:37.51 | sontek | yes, thats what I want |
| 05:37.54 | sontek | but 1 == true |
| 05:37.59 | sontek | d != u :P |
| 05:38.02 | nick125 | oh :p |
| 05:38.19 | nick125 | That's...odd |
| 05:39.05 | sontek | its actually assigned like this: my ($command, $message) = split(/ /, $data, 2); |
| 05:56.16 | sontek | nick125: I figured it out btw |
| 05:56.21 | sontek | nick125: == is numerical |
| 05:56.22 | nick125 | sontek: What was it? |
| 05:56.25 | sontek | nick125: have to use 'eq' for strings |
| 05:56.27 | nick125 | aaaaah |
| 05:56.33 | nick125 | That's stupid, but alright. |
| 05:56.37 | sontek | lol |
| 05:57.07 | sontek | yeah, perl needs to get some type inference like everyone else in the world |
| 05:57.36 | sontek | if it walks and talks like a duck.. ;) |
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| 06:11.37 | sontek | ok, everyone: http://devtoo.net/svn/twitter/twitter.pl start twittering from irssi |
| 06:17.00 | sontek | :O |
| 06:17.03 | sontek | late night? |
| 06:19.08 | Tene | sontek: nice |
| 06:20.36 | sontek | Tene: thanks =) |
| 06:20.46 | sontek | Tene: it also has autocomplete for names |
| 06:21.00 | sontek | Tene: so you can do /twitter d so<tab> and it'll give you sontek |
| 06:21.19 | sontek | or /twitter u @so<tab> |
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| 07:16.09 | Supaplex | sontek: I was house sitting. now I'm home so I can be at work at 7am |
| 07:31.11 | sontek | Supaplex: fun :P |
| 07:31.34 | sontek | Supaplex: I could be sleeping but i'm reading blogs instead :{ but I don't have to be to work until 8 |
| 07:32.10 | Supaplex | my commute consists of 15 footsteps into the computer room :) |
| 07:34.26 | sontek | :( |
| 07:34.37 | sontek | I get to telecommut once a week |
| 07:34.40 | sontek | and its just not enough |
| 07:34.47 | sontek | to many distractions in en office |
| 07:34.51 | sontek | an* |
| 07:35.54 | Supaplex | if I had to drive to work, it would be at least an eight hour drive and ~ 577 miles :P |
| 07:36.16 | nick125 | hahah |
| 07:36.49 | sontek | hmm.. so maybe I just need to move |
| 07:39.11 | Supaplex | sontek: I use to work with a John Anderson - I had a double take when I read the UTOSC schedule last year |
| 07:40.22 | sontek | haha, yeah, my parents didn't get very creative when naming me ;) |
| 07:40.52 | Supaplex | or anyone with that name. :) |
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| 08:35.42 | Sargun | meh |
| 08:35.46 | Sargun | I'm tired. |
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| 13:20.34 | sargun_screen | clear |
| 13:20.55 | sargun_screen | sontek: you need to move dude. |
| 13:20.56 | sargun_screen | MOVE AWAY! |
| 13:21.10 | sargun_screen | ergle, I cannot see anything I type into this window. |
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| 13:47.58 | harleypig | Holy crow ... I don't understand this woman ... |
| 13:48.26 | harleypig | I can understand--barely--how a man might be willing to just abandon his children, but not a woman. |
| 13:49.03 | harleypig | My (soon to be ex-)wife came up from Colorado for a funeral. She was up here for two full days. Not once did she stop by to see the kids! |
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| 13:53.37 | atoponce | how's the weather in the northern end of the state? |
| 13:53.55 | atoponce | i think the power may be out, as my phone won't ring, and i can't get to my server |
| 13:57.30 | sargun_screen | The weather is amazing. |
| 13:57.45 | atoponce | google weather shows snow |
| 13:57.49 | sargun_screen | harleypig: She is a woman... |
| 13:57.52 | harleypig | atoponce: It's personal. You're server is mad at you and isn't talking to you. |
| 13:57.56 | sargun_screen | You cannot expect them to make sense. |
| 13:58.21 | atoponce | harleypig, what did i do to deserve this treatment? |
| 13:58.39 | atoponce | is my phone mad at me too? |
| 14:01.59 | ^Migs^ | http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSL1271421620080313 |
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| 14:04.44 | tensai | ~lart elg |
| 14:04.44 | ibot | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, elg!" and lops off elg's head |
| 14:08.41 | ^Migs^ | ~lart ChanServ |
| 14:08.41 | ibot | chops ChanServ in half with a free Solaris 7 CD |
| 14:09.08 | sargun_screen | atoponce: Do you have a non-Linux or a Non-Palm phone? |
| 14:10.07 | elg | my palm runs sweat os |
| 14:10.13 | sargun_screen | If the application is giving a no route to host error before you authenticate that does not mean that the application credential are wrong |
| 14:10.25 | sargun_screen | That means that the application hoster is wrong |
| 14:10.38 | sargun_screen | or something with the tubes |
| 14:11.14 | sargun_screen | Please do not chance the credentials and then lose the key. |
| 14:11.29 | sargun_screen | There is a reason why we pay $60,000 for that key. |
| 14:15.14 | atoponce | sargun_screen, no |
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| 14:25.21 | ^Migs^ | wow, this is the biggest wtf story I've seen in a long time: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080312/NEWS07/80312051/&imw=Y |
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| 15:27.43 | tensai | what's the command to show the routing table on mac osx? |
| 15:27.44 | tensai | route -n? |
| 15:38.00 | atoponce | ip route show? |
| 15:38.09 | atoponce | netstat -r might work also |
| 15:42.38 | elg | netstat -rn |
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| 16:04.40 | fungus | netstat -rn works on Mac, Linux, BSD, Solaris, and even AIX. |
| 16:05.18 | elg | for some definition of "works" |
| 16:05.25 | elg | give me ip route anyday |
| 16:05.43 | elg | but it is, somewhat like sendmail, a lowest common denominator |
| 16:06.13 | fungus | For displaying a routing table, what else could you possibly need? |
| 16:06.18 | tensai | and then there's windows. "route print". who thought of that? |
| 16:06.43 | tensai | all hail iproute! |
| 16:06.53 | fungus | tensai: Ah, but even windows supports "netstat -rn" |
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| 16:08.00 | fungus | I agree iproute is great for modifying a routing table on linux. But when you need to view a routing table nothing beats the universal "netstat -rn" |
| 16:09.57 | tensai | I often use "ip route get" which is handy when you just want to know a single route |
| 16:10.05 | tensai | rather than wading through the whole table |
| 16:10.47 | tensai | I also sometimes use "sh ip route" which doesn't work the same on linux as it does on a cisco |
| 16:12.25 | fungus | lol |
| 16:13.22 | beandog | what are those cisco routers running anyway |
| 16:13.47 | nick125 | Cisco IOS |
| 16:14.23 | tensai | aka Internetwork Operating System |
| 16:15.13 | fungus | Right, their not cool like Juniper and run an OS based on FreeBSD |
| 16:17.56 | nick125 | fungus: I heard it was very loosely based on FreeBSD |
| 16:18.10 | nick125 | while all of the networking stuff was written by Juniper |
| 16:18.48 | nick125 | s/their/they're |
| 16:21.55 | fungus | That is definitely possible. |
| 16:32.56 | tensai | finally I whipped my cisco into submission! |
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| 16:39.27 | ^Migs^ | http://www.dothetest.co.uk/ |
| 16:39.29 | brac | [DOTHETEST] |
| 16:39.40 | elg | ip route spits out info that IMHO is more readable, although not tabular |
| 16:39.52 | elg | and I don't agree that there is a universal format for netstat -rn |
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| 16:39.57 | elg | every netstat looks different |
| 16:40.28 | elg | looking at routing tables is kind of a pointless thing to debate though - it's pretty simple no matter how you look at it |
| 16:52.58 | rsimpkins | jsmith-teaching: Are your students Astrisk experts now? |
| 16:53.11 | jsmith-teaching | rsimpkins: Working on it :-) |
| 16:53.33 | jsmith-teaching | rsimpkins: They're certainly a lot more proficient than they were on Monday |
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| 17:07.00 | ^Migs^ | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/funny-pictures-wife-bird-with-feather.jpg |
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| 17:10.49 | ^Migs^ | hahaha http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/funny-pictures-mitosis-rabbits.jpg |
| 17:15.05 | Supaplex | cute ^Migs^ |
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| 19:10.32 | unum | who is that just move into applegate condos? |
| 19:16.04 | fozzmoo | heh heh. Ann Coulter wrote a great column about Spitzer. |
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| 19:16.41 | fozzmoo | She spends some time comparing Spitzer to Clinton and concludes: That was always the advantage Clinton had: We never expected any better. He went from Skunk Trot, Ark., to Skunk Trot, Ark. Spitzer fell from Fifth Avenue to Skunk Trot, Ark. |
| 19:18.25 | fozzmoo | elg: Why are you monopolizing UTOSP? |
| 19:20.19 | tensai | fozzmoo: link? |
| 19:20.37 | fozzmoo | Oh, you'd ask. |
| 19:20.55 | tensai | or is it, *gasp*, a dead tree article? |
| 19:20.55 | fozzmoo | hang on |
| 19:21.52 | fozzmoo | http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25481 |
| 19:21.54 | brac | [Whoreable Behavior - HUMAN EVENTS] |
| 19:22.37 | elg | fozzmoo: i guess because I upgraded my blog software and naturally it can't handle that |
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| 19:33.45 | fozzmoo | elg: How dare you! :) |
| 19:38.13 | Jayce^ | fozzmoo, read that this morning, loved the article |
| 19:51.37 | unum | I don't think I could read an Ann Coulter article with out screaming |
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| 20:09.50 | tensai | unum: I wouldn't have thought I could either. but I did. even agreed with some of it. |
| 20:09.59 | tensai | I'm a little worried, to be honest |
| 20:10.12 | unum | tensai: you should be :) |
| 20:10.15 | tensai | but I guess, even a blind squirrel finds a nut |
| 20:11.36 | tensai | -weather KTOP |
| 20:11.37 | brac | 19 minutes ago, on Thu Mar 13 19:53:00 UTC 2008, the wind was blowing at a speed of 3.09 meters per second (6.90 miles per hour) from the Northeast at KTOP. The temperature was 14.4 degrees Celsius (57.9 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1008 hPa (29.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 38.9%. There were a few clouds at a height of 2743 meters (9000 feet). |
| 20:11.58 | tensai | nope. not freezing yet. |
| 20:19.09 | Jayce^ | KTOP? |
| 20:20.37 | tensai | Topeka, KS |
| 20:21.36 | Jayce^ | while I don't always agree with her, I do like her articles.. they have a lot of well structured thought to them, well articulated :) |
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| 20:26.30 | ^Migs^ | HAHAHA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9luvRlPtaKM |
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| 20:41.50 | Hhhhh | hullo |
| 20:41.59 | Hhhhh | MacOSX for the win |
| 20:48.40 | Supaplex | unless it's the x11 clipboard |
| 20:51.10 | ^Migs^ | lol #82: http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/ |
| 20:51.17 | ^Migs^ | One of the more popular white person activities of the past fifteen years is attempting to educate others on the evils of multi-national corporations. White people love nothing more than explaining to you how Wal*Mart, McDonalds, Microsoft, Halliburton are destroying the Earth’s culture and resources. |
| 20:52.46 | Supaplex | that whole blog comes off as a ruse, but some days I still quetion it. :P |
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| 22:05.23 | elg | -chat |
| 22:05.27 | brac | I am a little tux army |
| 22:05.32 | elg | good for you |
| 22:09.14 | nick125 | Hmm...should I be worried that UPS' tracking site doesn't say my package is out for delivery, even though it's supposed to be delivered today? |
| 22:09.47 | mrpull | sometimes they'll surprise you |
| 22:09.54 | nick125 | haha |
| 22:09.58 | mrpull | I've had a delivery come before it said it was shipped |
| 22:10.00 | nick125 | Should I give them a ring? |
| 22:10.35 | mrpull | sounds like a big commitment if you just want to sweet talk them into delivering a package |
| 22:10.36 | Supaplex | are you proposing to UPS? ;) |
| 22:11.06 | nick125 | ... |
| 22:11.28 | nick125 | I might propose if they deliver my package today. |
| 22:11.42 | mrpull | nick125: getting something fun? |
| 22:11.56 | nick125 | My WRT54GL |
| 22:12.15 | mrpull | I suppose they are fun |
| 22:12.19 | nick125 | yup |
| 22:12.41 | mrpull | I've got one that isn't doing anything more than being a switch |
| 22:12.52 | nick125 | My old AP is being a pain in the rear... |
| 22:12.53 | mrpull | I ought to re-purpose it |
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| 22:34.39 | nick125 | UPS is gonna call me back within an hour |
| 22:35.25 | nick125 | Hopefully they will be able to tell me if my package is going to be delivered today or not |
| 22:35.40 | mrpull | ask them why my two day package is expect to come here 5 days from now |
| 22:36.04 | nick125 | hahah |
| 22:36.19 | mrpull | I bought a Harmony 880 yesterday |
| 22:36.28 | nick125 | mrpull: nice |
| 22:36.51 | mrpull | I really wanted the Harmony One, but the 880 was only $100 yesterday |
| 22:37.05 | mrpull | nick125: how long have you had it? |
| 22:37.14 | mrpull | have you used it with a DVR? |
| 22:37.47 | nick125 | I've had it for about...5 months..and no, I'm not using it with a DVR (just using it with my Samsung HDTV, Xbox 360 and Comcast HD box) |
| 22:39.36 | mrpull | which Sammy do you have? I got a LNT-4671 in February. |
| 22:40.25 | nick125 | TX-S2782H |
| 22:41.10 | nick125 | It's a 27" CRT |
| 22:42.14 | mrpull | I've got a love/hate relationship with my LCD |
| 22:42.27 | mrpull | with Blu-Rays it is unbelievably cool |
| 22:42.38 | mrpull | with standard def sports it can look like crap |
| 22:42.42 | nick125 | What bluray player? |
| 22:42.52 | mrpull | samsung's bdp-1400 |
| 22:43.04 | nick125 | aah |
| 22:43.17 | nick125 | I've been looking at getting a PS3 for bluray playback. |
| 22:43.31 | nick125 | But it'd be a choice between a PS3 or a DSLR camera. |
| 22:43.45 | mrpull | I'd probably vote for the ps3 as a better bluray player than the sammy |
| 22:44.00 | mrpull | but not having an IR remote really was a deal breaker |
| 22:44.05 | nick125 | true |
| 22:44.13 | nick125 | Isn't there some kind of IR sensor for the PS3? |
| 22:44.25 | mrpull | you can buy a cheapo remote that comes with IR |
| 22:44.54 | nick125 | aah |
| 22:45.03 | beandog | mrpull, same here |
| 22:45.15 | mrpull | the sammy was $100 less at the time and my old universal remote would work with it without spending another $20 |
| 22:45.25 | nick125 | I've noticed that on SDTV content, HDTVs usually look horrible |
| 22:45.52 | mrpull | some of directv's upconverted SD feeds look passably good |
| 22:46.01 | mrpull | KJZZ looks like dogcrap |
| 22:46.15 | mrpull | I can't wait till they upgrade |
| 22:46.25 | mrpull | and pray that directv picks up the hidef version |
| 22:46.41 | mrpull | they say they'll be HD by the first playoff game |
| 22:46.51 | beandog | KJZZ doesnt have an HD stream? |
| 22:46.55 | beandog | er, channel |
| 22:47.05 | mrpull | they have a digital stream |
| 22:47.08 | mrpull | but no hdtv |
| 22:52.10 | nick125 | w00t |
| 22:52.11 | nick125 | my package is going to be here in 15 minutes |
| 22:52.46 | mrpull | what did they say about my package? |
| 22:54.07 | mrpull | any tips or tricks for the 880? |
| 22:54.11 | nick125 | mrpull: They lost it out of the back of a jumbo jet...it's gone :p |
| 22:54.30 | nick125 | Make sure you have a windows box around. |
| 22:54.43 | mrpull | I'm a windows guy so that isn't a problem |
| 22:55.07 | mrpull | I tried to check out the software before I got it, but the first step is "connect your remote" |
| 22:55.26 | nick125 | The software is java-based, IIRC |
| 22:55.39 | nick125 | It's not that great, but it works |
| 22:56.32 | mrpull | my old universal is 10 years old and a "point the two remotes at each other" learner |
| 22:56.46 | mrpull | being pc programable is welcome |
| 22:56.47 | nick125 | The 880 can do that, too. |
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| 23:07.19 | levi | Yay, PCI enumeration sees bus 1 now! |
| 23:10.23 | levi | Playing with scopes and logic analyzers is fun. :P |
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| 23:21.55 | nick125_treo | yay, my package arrived |
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| 23:32.21 | beandog | why is xmissions cygwin mirror so slow |
| 23:32.32 | beandog | why oh why |
| 23:34.31 | elg | i think i heard they throttle their mirrors |
| 23:34.37 | elg | though probably not for their own customers |
| 23:34.56 | RyanE | yeah, I think for Xmission customers, it's supposed to be 'pipe-speed'. |
| 23:35.07 | beandog | oh really? |
| 23:35.09 | beandog | hmm |
| 23:35.14 | beandog | stupid qwest. |
| 23:35.21 | beandog | I knew they were to blame for all my problems. |
| 23:35.31 | nick125 | lol |
| 23:35.49 | nick125 | whee |
| 23:42.28 | nick125 | wow, just with the default firmware..I'm getting 30/70 signal in my room |
| 23:48.18 | elg | so, let's say I want to put a bandwidth meter on my own site. anyone know of any good ones? |
| 23:48.56 | elg | pretty is nice, accurate is better. i don't much care if it's flash or java... even willing to consider a non web-based one (some kind of client/server thing) |
| 23:49.05 | elg | open source even better |
| 23:50.34 | goozbach | bandwidth meter? |
| 23:50.52 | goozbach | like "my site is SOOO fast"? |
| 23:50.56 | elg | like speakeasy's bandwidth speed test |
| 23:51.03 | elg | like, my internet connection is X fast |
| 23:51.09 | elg | or X slow |
| 23:51.10 | elg | whatever ;-) |
| 23:51.31 | elg | the online ones are ok, but the best thing to do is stick one of those things on your ISP's webserver |
| 23:51.49 | elg | then you're measuring your link to the ISP, not whatever chunk of internet gets between you and the meter |
| 23:52.38 | vontrapp | elg: you're an isp now? |
| 23:52.45 | elg | no but I have one |
