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| 00:05.20 | harleypig | ARGGHHH! |
| 00:05.40 | harleypig | My home drive is losing its connection! |
| 00:05.50 | harleypig | Why can't I just be independently wealthy? |
| 00:05.59 | harleypig | Would that be so wrong? |
| 00:06.31 | undertakingyou | harleypig: not at all, as long as we all were. |
| 00:08.34 | harleypig | well, that would be ok I guess. |
| 00:08.43 | harleypig | But I'm having a selfish, self-pitying moment here. |
| 00:12.45 | harleypig | Cool! I can use my kids to start punching holes in them right away! |
| 00:26.14 | harleypig | What does it mean when a program is executed and it says "/bin/bash: bad interpreter: Permission denied"? |
| 00:26.23 | harleypig | /bin/bash has the appropriate perms. |
| 00:26.33 | harleypig | The executed program has the correct perms. |
| 00:27.01 | Supaplex | dos linefeeds in a shell script? |
| 00:27.54 | harleypig | Supaplex: I thought of that ... but these scripts haven't been near a dos environment. |
| 00:28.27 | harleypig | And they have the correct format according to vim (I just checked) |
| 00:28.29 | Supaplex | what happens when you use 'bash foo.sh' ? |
| 00:30.19 | harleypig | hmm ... picasa:error: could not find wine/bin/wine in '/home/harleypig/picasa/bin/..' |
| 00:30.30 | harleypig | interesting ... |
| 00:30.50 | Tene | That's odd. |
| 00:31.03 | harleypig | But it's there and the correct perms. |
| 00:31.18 | Tene | strace bash foo.sh |
| 00:32.00 | harleypig | ? Permission denied for /home/harleypig/picasa/bin/../wine/bin/wine |
| 00:32.03 | vontrapp | any advice? pointers? caveats? |
| 00:32.06 | vontrapp | a good howto? |
| 00:32.12 | harleypig | vontrapp: sorry |
| 00:32.32 | harleypig | I'm gonna have to track this down later ... I wonder if it's part of the problem I'm having with my home drive ... |
| 00:32.41 | Tene | vontrapp: what are you going to be doing with it? |
| 00:32.48 | vontrapp | my myth box |
| 00:32.52 | Supaplex | vontrapp: the lvm2 howto is pretty good |
| 00:33.12 | vontrapp | i'm adding a 120G and an 80G |
| 00:33.21 | vontrapp | i want to put them together as one drive |
| 00:33.33 | Tene | vontrapp: pvcreate, vgcreate, lvcreate |
| 00:33.40 | Tene | pvscan, vgscan, lvscan |
| 00:33.46 | Tene | pvdisplay, vgdisplay, lvdisplay |
| 00:33.51 | Tene | That's all you need |
| 00:33.56 | beandog | the lvm2 howto sucks. |
| 00:33.59 | beandog | It has errors in there. |
| 00:34.07 | beandog | well, the examples do. |
| 00:34.15 | beandog | but the documentation is good |
| 00:34.24 | beandog | if that makes sense ... |
| 00:34.27 | vontrapp | what does vg stand for? |
| 00:34.31 | vontrapp | volume group? |
| 00:35.15 | vontrapp | run pvcreate on empty partitions... |
| 00:35.32 | vontrapp | run lvcreate to make logical volumes on the pv? |
| 00:35.47 | vontrapp | then vgcreate to make "drives" |
| 00:35.49 | vontrapp | good so far? |
| 00:37.19 | vontrapp | do i use partitions or unallocated space? |
| 00:38.15 | vontrapp | aah, this disk is soooooo much quieter than the last |
| 00:39.02 | beandog | Supaplex, mm-sources? |
| 00:39.08 | beandog | oh |
| 00:39.10 | beandog | mm directory. |
| 00:39.11 | beandog | fail. |
| 00:39.12 | beandog | -_- |
| 00:39.34 | beandog | usermod-sources |
| 00:39.37 | beandog | er, mode |
| 00:39.57 | vontrapp | oh, and what filesystem plays nice with both lvm and myth? |
| 00:40.18 | beandog | ext3 |
| 00:40.19 | nick125 | The filesystem shouldn't care about lvm. |
| 00:40.20 | beandog | reiser |
| 00:40.28 | beandog | that's what Id recommend |
| 00:40.33 | vontrapp | well, some are better, like my first choice, xfs, doesn't resize |
| 00:40.58 | vontrapp | so wouldn't be as good with lvm |
| 00:41.02 | Supaplex | gfs2 can grow, but not shrink |
| 00:41.11 | vontrapp | what is gfs? |
| 00:41.26 | Supaplex | global fs. cluster aware. overkill for most needs :) |
| 00:42.48 | beandog | vontrapp, how much space you got? |
| 00:42.59 | vontrapp | two drives, 120G and 80G |
| 00:43.11 | vontrapp | (plus one more that's 250G, but it's already loaded with data) |
| 00:43.36 | vontrapp | the 120G has a 6G root fs on it already |
| 00:43.58 | vontrapp | and the 120 and 80 are _really_ 112 and 74 |
| 00:44.06 | beandog | you know |
| 00:44.12 | beandog | myth has this new thing called storage groups |
| 00:44.15 | beandog | you wouldnt need to use LVM |
| 00:44.24 | vontrapp | how do they work? |
| 00:44.44 | beandog | just a preference |
| 00:44.59 | beandog | and new mythtv release just came out .... today, I think |
| 00:45.04 | vontrapp | never seen it in all my digging through prefs |
| 00:45.09 | beandog | its in 0.21 |
| 00:45.17 | nearn | I need to redo my mytv server some time. |
| 00:45.33 | sontek | rss + torrents > mythtv :> |
| 00:45.44 | vontrapp | how do i see what version i have? |
| 00:45.54 | beandog | uh |
| 00:45.58 | beandog | it should say when starting up |
| 00:46.02 | beandog | Im sure theres a --version flag to mythfoo |
| 00:46.07 | vontrapp | hmm, apt tells me .20.2 |
| 00:46.19 | nearn | sontek: but what if you have a date. watching a movie on a laptop is not all ways the best way to go. |
| 00:46.37 | nearn | plus the mythtv makes you look like an uber sexy geek. |
| 00:46.46 | vontrapp | sontek: not really |
| 00:46.51 | vontrapp | have you tried a well set up mythtv? |
| 00:47.37 | vontrapp | i've done the rss torrents thing (and still do for things like robin hood and doctor who) |
| 00:48.13 | vontrapp | mythtv Just Works and scheduling and auto delete stuff is just awesome |
| 00:48.58 | beandog | tivo > myth |
| 00:48.59 | beandog | :) |
| 00:49.12 | vontrapp | when doctor who is in season again, i'm going to make my rss+torrent automagically load itself into the mythtv database :) |
| 00:49.12 | sontek | nearn: thats why you have a hacked xbox |
| 00:49.56 | nearn | what? |
| 00:50.26 | nearn | that does not compare to mythtv. |
| 00:51.06 | sontek | I think my torrents + xbox fares pretty well against mythtv :P |
| 00:51.52 | vontrapp | don't you ever get tired of maintaining all those files? |
| 00:52.37 | vontrapp | and how are you going to discover new shows? or watch those B movies on the sci fi channel? |
| 00:52.51 | nearn | I torrent + mythtv + rsync and it works perfect for me. |
| 00:52.54 | vontrapp | alas, /me has no scifi channel here :( |
| 00:53.04 | nearn | plus mythtv has a bunch of plugins. |
| 00:54.28 | vontrapp | tivo makes too many funny noises at you |
| 00:54.34 | sontek | vontrapp: what do you mean maintain them? rtorrent automatically downloads them where they need to be (dependent on regex found) and I discover new shows by word of mouth |
| 00:54.36 | beandog | you can turn em off |
| 00:54.42 | sontek | I guess it would be cool for it to suggest them to me though |
| 00:54.51 | sontek | I guess i'll have to setup mythtv |
| 00:55.24 | vontrapp | sontek: maintain as in when to delete, when it's seeded enough, etc, regrouping to a season seed when the season is done |
| 00:56.24 | vontrapp | sontek: mythtv doesn't suggest shows (unless there's a plugin for that) but the occasional commercial that slips through is good at suggesting shows |
| 00:56.45 | vontrapp | e.g. watching mythbusters and seeing a commercial for smash lab |
| 00:57.32 | sontek | vontrapp: I have rtorrent setup to seed for 1 week or when it hits 2:1, and I ignore anything with 'season' in the title, as I download the episodes individually |
| 00:58.21 | vontrapp | i used to care about updating to the season pack to continue seeding (the individual eps would disappear shortly after) |
| 00:58.28 | sontek | I've only ever read about mythtv though, I've never actually used it |
| 00:58.33 | vontrapp | but then my seeding didn't even work at all... so yeah |
| 00:58.48 | sontek | my rtorrent setup is pretty nice though |
| 00:59.13 | vontrapp | i have my torrent+rss set to jabber me when something comes on :) |
| 00:59.39 | vontrapp | sontek: do you use bitme? |
| 01:00.17 | sontek | I use http://code.google.com/p/rssdler/ + rtorrent |
| 01:01.25 | vontrapp | sontek: but where do you get your rss feed? |
| 01:02.06 | sontek | oh, I'm on a private tracker |
| 01:02.36 | sontek | but before I got the invite I used tvshows, piratebay, and a couple others |
| 01:02.37 | vontrapp | bitme is a private (community) tracker |
| 01:02.52 | vontrapp | need invites and all |
| 01:03.21 | sontek | http://www.tvtorrents.com/ http://tvrss.net/ http://rss.bt-chat.com/ |
| 01:03.25 | vontrapp | i've been on it since before the invite days |
| 01:03.30 | sontek | those are the 3 I used before the one i'm on now |
| 01:11.48 | sontek | hmm |
| 01:11.59 | sontek | so what happens if you get: ls: cannot access media: Input/output error |
| 01:12.15 | sontek | after trying to resize a disk and it gave you: Filesystem at /dev/system/root is mounted on /; on-line resizing required |
| 01:12.18 | sontek | On-line shrinking from 5980160 to 2883584 not supported. |
| 01:12.33 | sontek | tried resizing root :P |
| 01:12.51 | sontek | I also got: inspidell:/data # ls |
| 01:12.51 | sontek | Bus error |
| 01:13.06 | sontek | I have a feeling i'm going to regret that. |
| 01:15.10 | sontek | well.. I guess i'm gonna try to reboot |
| 01:15.32 | vontrapp | is there a good plugin for firefox where you can navigate rel links with keyboard shortcuts? |
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| 01:27.06 | sontek | vontrapp: there is a vi plugin |
| 01:30.15 | vontrapp | mozless? |
| 01:30.33 | vontrapp | i've used that one, but how can you configure it to do rel links? |
| 01:31.04 | sontek | I dunno if you can, I figure it might though, I'm in the middle of repairing my computer so i can't test :P |
| 01:31.09 | sontek | resizing root on lvm doesn't work ;) |
| 01:32.20 | nick125 | sontek: Sure it does :p |
| 01:33.04 | sontek | nick125: haha, as long as you do it from a livecd ;) |
| 01:33.13 | sontek | making a bootable usb stick now :P |
| 01:33.43 | nick125 | Or if you have live resizing working ;-) |
| 01:34.36 | nick125 | Ugh...what's the difference between DVI Dual link and Single link? |
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| 01:41.14 | vontrapp | does lvm stripe by default? |
| 01:46.34 | sontek | no, you need to use raid with lvm |
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| 01:51.55 | vontrapp | i just don't want it to stripe, because the drives are sharing a bus |
| 02:10.27 | herlo | vontrapp: consider raid mirror then, but lvm has nothing to do with striping |
| 02:10.49 | herlo | other than lvm can sit on top of a raid, that is all |
| 02:29.17 | vontrapp | no lvm can "stripe" |
| 02:29.33 | vontrapp | by alternating the physical extents between the two drives |
| 02:31.10 | herlo | vontrapp: oh, I see what yo umean |
| 02:31.31 | herlo | but that's an advanced aspect, not done unless planned for |
| 02:31.48 | findlay | striped drives? It's polka dotted drives that I fear |
| 02:31.57 | herlo | findlay: you would! |
| 02:34.15 | findlay | herlo: don't insinuate you aren't at least wary of dotted drives |
| 02:39.32 | herlo | findlay: nope, I'm not |
| 02:46.47 | Zelut | Jayce^: I am in need of your 133t perl skillz |
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| 02:48.17 | herlo | harleypig: you still around? Zelut needs help with xml parsing :) |
| 02:49.12 | harleypig | just got back |
| 02:49.16 | harleypig | nice timing |
| 02:49.36 | harleypig | Do you have control of the box so you can install modules? |
| 02:49.46 | Zelut | sure |
| 02:50.02 | harleypig | What kind of parsing are you going to be doing? |
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| 02:50.24 | lamalex | hey friends |
| 02:50.37 | harleypig | hey |
| 02:50.38 | Zelut | harleypig: we want to take the .xml list of twitter follows and import it to irssi. |
| 02:50.42 | harleypig | what's a lama lex? |
| 02:51.10 | lamalex | It's an Alex Launi, native to the Philadelphia region of Pennsylvania |
| 02:51.13 | Zelut | http://username:password@twitter.com/statuses/followers.xml?lite=true |
| 02:51.32 | Zelut | this will pull down the .xml for the user, we just need to parse it properly to be stored for the local app.. |
| 02:52.11 | lamalex | I'm definitely a beleiver in XML::simple perl module for parsing that |
| 02:52.19 | lamalex | nothing simpler than an array |
| 02:52.34 | herlo | lamalex: philly is a nice city |
| 02:52.48 | harleypig | Yeah ... have you tried xml-simple for that? |
| 02:52.51 | lamalex | herlo: thanks, I love it |
| 02:52.53 | harleypig | It looks like a simple feed. |
| 02:53.48 | lamalex | I thnk the part we're not so sure on is how to do auto-completion |
| 02:53.52 | lamalex | Zelut: am I right? |
| 02:54.08 | Zelut | yeah, i have no idea on that part |
| 02:54.18 | harleypig | ? what do you mean? |
| 02:55.57 | Zelut | harleypig: we want to populate a local listing of contacts and then send @replies to them by tab-completing from the local list. |
| 02:56.31 | Zelut | harleypig: so I can twitter: @harleypig - thank you for the help, and autocomplete your name. |
| 02:59.39 | harleypig | well, using XML::Simple I'm able to see all the people following me ... give me a minute and I'll pastebin some sample code for you. |
| 03:00.05 | Zelut | super |
| 03:00.08 | harleypig | hey ... what happened to the channel pastebin? |
| 03:00.17 | harleypig | do you have a preference for a pastebin? |
| 03:00.25 | lamalex | I have none |
| 03:00.35 | Zelut | i don't care |
| 03:00.36 | lamalex | i use paste2, but that's because of a gnome-do plugin |
| 03:01.04 | Zelut | i think that's the first time anyone has asked if i had a pastebin preference |
| 03:01.31 | lamalex | :P |
| 03:01.44 | lamalex | harleypig: as long as it's got syntax highlighting it's ok in my boo |
| 03:02.13 | herlo | harleypig: #utah has a channel pastebin? |
| 03:02.54 | Zelut | herlo: I so wanted to make a ook vs book joke and sjansen is not even here :( |
| 03:03.09 | herlo | hehe |
| 03:03.09 | levi | ook ook |
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| 03:10.15 | lamalex | harleypig: any luck? |
| 03:10.28 | harleypig | http://pastebin.linode.com/578 |
| 03:10.43 | harleypig | It's very bare bones ... just gives you a list of followers. |
| 03:10.56 | harleypig | but that's what you were having problems with right? |
| 03:12.57 | lamalex | it's part I |
| 03:13.05 | lamalex | and I had actually gotten that far.. |
| 03:13.14 | harleypig | heh ... then I misunderstood ... |
| 03:13.16 | lamalex | we're not sure how to do the autocompletion from that list in irssi |
| 03:13.33 | harleypig | what else were you needing ... oh ... |
| 03:13.41 | Zelut | I didn't know we had gotten that far either. oops. |
| 03:13.48 | harleypig | I'm missing how you're getting the name? |
| 03:13.57 | Zelut | we need to read from the generated list and tab-complete a name I guess is where it stands? |
| 03:14.14 | harleypig | Oh ... so you need irssi help, not perl help then. |
| 03:14.20 | lamalex | irssi scripting help |
| 03:14.23 | lamalex | which is done in perl |
| 03:15.18 | harleypig | Yeah, but I've never done anything but real simple scripting in irssi ... |
| 03:15.24 | harleypig | I can certainly take a look though ... |
| 03:16.41 | harleypig | omg ... irssi has a windows installer?! |
| 03:17.16 | nick125 | 0.0 |
| 03:17.39 | nick125 | what...the...... |
| 03:17.54 | lamalex | and the element we want to pull out of that xml is 'screen_name' |
| 03:18.14 | harleypig | screen_name is apparently the same as the key |
| 03:18.17 | harleypig | or vice versa |
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| 03:20.33 | lamalex | I know very little perl |
| 03:23.09 | sargun_screen | uh |
| 03:23.53 | sargun_screen | couldn't that be done via simple regex? |
| 03:24.29 | harleypig | I don't know how to set the autocomplete ... |
| 03:25.37 | sargun_screen | ooh. i love the ambient light sensor |
| 03:25.57 | sargun_screen | its like a really sexy tech demo... |
| 03:26.23 | sargun_screen | nick125: you still here? |
| 03:26.23 | harleypig | ? Uh ... do y'all want to *find* the name in the feed? or set an autocomplete in irssi? |
| 03:29.01 | sargun_screen | somewhere where its easy to find & take advantage of |
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| 03:32.21 | Zelut | harleypig: set an autocomplete mainly.. i'm looking into irssi script docs now |
| 03:33.39 | findlay | Poincaré conjecture |
| 03:34.02 | sargun_screen | is there a loselay? |
| 03:34.25 | findlay | ~say -chat ~piglatin |
| 03:34.25 | ibot | -chat ~piglatin |
| 03:34.28 | brac | ~piglatin went |
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| 03:49.15 | Zelut | harleypig: looks like all questions, no answers in #irssi |
| 03:49.25 | harleypig | yeah, one of them mine. :D |
| 03:50.20 | Supaplex | maybe http://li.daxal.com/~supaplex/irssiref.pdf has a few answers |
| 03:53.42 | Zelut | looks like it does a fair amount of autocompletion already.. |
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| 04:10.16 | harleypig | Zelut: |
| 04:10.30 | harleypig | Zelut: http://juerd.nl/elsewhere.plp?href=../files/irssi/dictcomplete.pl |
| 04:12.40 | Zelut | i just found that too |
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| 04:13.26 | harleypig | heh |
| 04:14.14 | harleypig | Trying to figure out if you have to use a signal to populate the completion functions |
| 04:14.44 | Zelut | i was about to paste that link and the baby started crying. figured it might be in the right direction |
| 04:14.52 | harleypig | heh |
| 04:18.02 | harleypig | 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01100001 00100000 01110100 01100101 01110011 01110100 00100000 01101111 01100110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00100000 01110011 01100011 01110010 01101001 01110000 01110100 |
| 04:19.26 | harleypig | hmmm... did a string of binary stuff show up? |
| 04:19.31 | Zelut | yes |
| 04:19.34 | harleypig | cool |
| 04:19.43 | harleypig | It just didn't show in my window. |
| 04:23.15 | harleypig | Zelut: http://irssi.org/scripts/scripts/bitlbee_tab_completion.pl |
| 04:23.31 | harleypig | Looks like you have to use the signal, but that script has an example of how to force it on load. |
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| 04:40.13 | ibot | tensai: ok |
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| 04:40.51 | ibot | tensai: ok |
| 04:41.01 | harleypig | crap ... everytime I try to use the completion it core dumps |
| 04:42.02 | harleypig | Zelut: http://pastebin.linode.com/579 |
| 04:42.09 | harleypig | Can you see anything wrong with this? |
| 04:43.13 | harleypig | hmm ... interesting ... it's not even loading the completions... |
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| 04:45.15 | Zelut | hmmm |
| 04:45.18 | harleypig | ibot, onjoin harleypig? |
| 04:45.36 | harleypig | Just noticed that it should be COMPLETION, COMPLETIONS |
| 04:45.42 | harleypig | but it's still causing a segfault |
| 04:46.38 | harleypig | maybe I'm doing that push wrong ... |
| 04:46.46 | harleypig | I am. |
| 04:50.27 | harleypig | ... |
| 04:50.31 | harleypig | nope |
| 04:50.33 | harleypig | dangit |
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| 04:58.41 | Supaplex | I can has pork bellies? |
| 04:58.52 | harleypig | heh |
| 04:59.15 | sontek | harleypig: http://irssi.org/scripts/scripts/dictcomplete.pl that could help you |
| 04:59.51 | harleypig | Yeah, I've found that as well. |
| 05:01.23 | harleypig | I'm having two problems ... first $complist is supposed to be a reference to an array. You're supposed to be able to just push elements onto it for the completion |
| 05:01.30 | harleypig | It's not working as advertised. |
| 05:01.49 | harleypig | Second, the send_raw example isn't working as advertised either. |
| 05:02.09 | sontek | whats send_raw supposed to to? |
| 05:02.37 | harleypig | Send an irssi command as if you had typed it from the client. |
| 05:03.48 | harleypig | I'm not sure how signal_add_last 'complete word' is working though. |
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| 05:10.45 | sontek | well.. I got irssi to crash |
| 05:11.30 | sontek | not what I was trying to do |
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| 05:15.13 | sontek | harleypig: your syntax on qw is wrong |
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| 05:16.29 | harleypig | ? checking ... |
| 05:17.02 | sontek | http://rafb.net/p/Q80YK127.html |
| 05:17.06 | sontek | that tab completess for me |
| 05:17.31 | harleypig | how? |
| 05:17.54 | sontek | http://rafb.net/p/BuuBro65.html |
| 05:17.58 | sontek | theres a chopped down version |
| 05:18.10 | harleypig | looking |
| 05:18.15 | harleypig | how is my syntax wrong? |
| 05:18.34 | harleypig | just tested in debug and it's working as expected |
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| 05:18.52 | sontek | the ['s makes my irssi segfault |
| 05:19.14 | harleypig | oh .. you're looking at an earlier version |
| 05:19.17 | harleypig | I caught that already. |
| 05:19.27 | sontek | oh |
| 05:19.29 | sontek | sorry |
| 05:19.30 | harleypig | http://pastebin.linode.com/579 |
| 05:19.33 | harleypig | :] np |
| 05:20.44 | harleypig | sontek: But the completion list is repopulated everytime you run the complete command that way. |
| 05:21.03 | harleypig | though I suppose ifyou never run the completion command again that's not a problem. |
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| 05:23.27 | harleypig | I'm missing something. How do you cause the completion to be populated? |
| 05:23.52 | harleypig | uh oh |
| 05:24.06 | sontek | http://rafb.net/p/cHEzF132.html |
| 05:24.13 | sontek | there you go |
| 05:24.24 | sontek | that autocompletes and matches on the currently typed word |
| 05:24.31 | harleypig | I've been ASSuming that /completions would show me the completions that I added |
| 05:24.38 | sontek | so you can type /and<tab> and it'll give you 'anderson' |
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| 05:25.01 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:25.01 | brac | | | | ||_ _| | \ | | / _ \ / _ \ | __ ) | | |
| 05:25.02 | brac | | |_| | | | | \| || | | || | | || _ \ | | |
| 05:25.04 | brac | | _ | | | | |\ || |_| || |_| || |_) ||_| |
| 05:25.04 | brac | |_| |_||___| |_| \_| \___/ \___/ |____/ (_) |
| 05:25.04 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:25.09 | sontek | haha |
| 05:25.36 | Sargun | -chat |
| 05:25.37 | brac | up from 68ms to 132ms in less then 20 bits |
| 05:25.39 | Sargun | -chat say |
| 05:25.39 | brac | say is good stuff |
| 05:25.45 | Sargun | -chat ~say |
| 05:25.48 | brac | ~say is |
| 05:25.48 | ibot | is |
| 05:25.55 | Sargun | -chat ~say figlet |
| 05:25.56 | brac | ~say figlet |
| 05:25.56 | ibot | figlet |
| 05:25.58 | Sargun | -chat ~say -figlet |
| 05:25.58 | brac | ~say -figlet |
| 05:25.58 | ibot | -figlet |
| 05:25.59 | brac | incorrect usage: figlet [<message>] => print using figlet |
| 05:26.04 | harleypig | well, bite me. |
| 05:26.04 | Sargun | -chat ~say -figlet |
| 05:26.09 | Sargun | -chat ~say -figlet is |
| 05:26.09 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 05:26.23 | Sargun | hm, -figlet is boring |
| 05:26.28 | Sargun | -chat ~say -figlet is |
| 05:26.28 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 05:26.30 | Sargun | -chat ~say -figlet |
| 05:26.31 | brac | ~say -figlet |
| 05:26.31 | ibot | -figlet |
| 05:26.32 | brac | incorrect usage: figlet [<message>] => print using figlet |
| 05:26.38 | Supaplex | -chat ~say -figlet |
| 05:26.46 | sontek | -chat about |
| 05:26.47 | brac | about is the only question is... Why? |
| 05:26.51 | harleypig | ~say -figlet test |
| 05:26.52 | ibot | -figlet test |
| 05:26.53 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:26.53 | brac | | |_ ___ ___ | |_ |
| 05:26.53 | brac | | __|/ _ \/ __|| __| |
| 05:26.53 | brac | | |_| __/\__ \| |_ |
| 05:26.54 | sontek | -chat harleypig |
| 05:26.56 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:26.56 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:26.56 | brac | harleypig is no |
| 05:27.36 | Supaplex | -movieplot |
| 05:27.42 | brac | Summary: He's a fast talking albino Green Beret on a search for his missing sister. She's a pregnant belly-dancing politician with the power to see death. They fight crime. |
| 05:27.52 | harleypig | agh ... didn't realize how late it was ... g'night |
| 05:27.58 | sontek | harleypig: gnight! |
| 05:28.27 | Supaplex | harleypig: wha, it's only 10:30 if you didn't fix your clocks ;) |
| 05:29.25 | Zelut | sontek: I've been taking care of my baby this whole time. Sounds like you guys got something figured out? |
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| 05:30.38 | sontek | Zelut: Got it tab completing from a list |
| 05:30.48 | sontek | Zelut: now the list just needs to be created from the XML |
| 05:31.01 | sontek | you are wanting to parse this? http://twitter.com/statuses/followers.xml |
| 05:36.06 | Zelut | yeah, parse the list of followers/follows from twitter |
| 05:37.28 | sontek | XML::Simple wont install from cpan for some reason |
| 05:38.49 | sontek | can you get it to install? |
| 05:39.00 | sontek | if so I can write the code and you can test to see if it generates a list |
| 05:39.52 | Supaplex | as some ::Simple modules go in CPAN, they are simple for the author, maybe to write (at most) |
| 05:40.25 | Zelut | remind me how to add a CPAN module |
| 05:40.58 | Supaplex | run cpan, install <it> - failing that, perl -MCPAN -e shell |
| 05:42.56 | sontek | brb, gotta reboot this server |
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| 05:44.05 | sontek | yeah but you just have to do 'cpan' and then type 'install <package>' |
| 05:45.08 | Zelut | ok I think it installed.. haven't used CPAN in some time |
| 05:59.06 | levi | Man, putting off big projects sucks. |
| 06:04.25 | Sargun | uh |
| 06:04.27 | Sargun | Like what |
| 06:05.35 | sontek | Zelut: ok, I got it all working with a xml file on the hdd |
| 06:05.54 | sontek | Zelut: I dunno how to pull/authenticate an xml file from the web in perl, this is my first time ever using the language |
| 06:07.10 | Zelut | I pulled one down earlier just using curl.. |
| 06:07.24 | Zelut | so if I have my follows.xml your code should do it? |
| 06:08.27 | sontek | yeah: http://rafb.net/p/1iO0Ma62.html |
| 06:08.29 | sontek | try that |
| 06:11.36 | Zelut | does followers.xml need to be in the same dir I assume? |
| 06:12.31 | sontek | for now |
| 06:12.37 | sontek | i'm looking up how to pull it from the web |
| 06:14.47 | Zelut | looks like its parsing name instead of screen_name |
| 06:14.55 | sontek | oh, yeah |
| 06:15.00 | sontek | I just threw something in there |
| 06:15.07 | sontek | just change the unshift line |
| 06:15.45 | sontek | perl is actually not so bad once you start using it |
| 06:15.50 | sontek | i'm going to have to stop making fun of Jayce^ |
| 06:15.53 | Zelut | hehe |
| 06:16.13 | Zelut | also, as with twitter we need to preface the name with @, but the autocomplete is stripping that. |
| 06:16.29 | sontek | let me fix that for you |
| 06:17.05 | Zelut | ok, fixing unshift takes care of the first bug. |
| 06:20.23 | Zelut | and it looks like followers needs to be in the directory irssi was launched from |
| 06:20.56 | sontek | Zelut: yeah, that wont matter once we figure out how to use LWP::Simple to download the file into memory |
| 06:21.32 | Zelut | sontek: to be thorough do you think it should use followers and follows? |
| 06:22.06 | sontek | Zelut: are their xml formats different? |
| 06:22.49 | Zelut | I'd assume they are the same.. I can look |
| 06:24.54 | Zelut | there will likely be duplication between the two lists of course |
| 06:26.07 | sontek | ok, I figured out the downloading |
| 06:28.53 | Zelut | http://twitter.com/statuses/friends.xml is the second list |
| 06:29.49 | Zelut | looks like there is a bit more to it, but its the same format and same key we can parse on. |
| 06:33.57 | Zelut | twitter API - http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/web/api-documentation |
| 06:38.32 | Zelut | I gotta get to bed. Thanks for the help. |
| 06:40.26 | sontek | np, i'll have it ready for ya in the morning |
| 06:41.41 | Tene | g'night |
| 06:47.18 | Sargun | night |
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| 07:33.39 | sontek | Zelut: http://rafb.net/p/1y6aku82.html |
| 07:33.48 | sontek | Zelut: That does the basics of what you want |
| 07:33.57 | sontek | Zelut: I've commented where it needs to be improved upon |
| 07:34.52 | sontek | Zelut: you might want to have a perl monger look at the code before letting the public see it |
| 07:35.19 | sontek | I'm sure its ugly |
| 07:35.30 | sontek | for someone who knows Perl |
| 07:35.34 | sontek | gnight |
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| 08:25.56 | Tene | sontek: why don't you replace lines 42-47 with: return keys %complete_list; ? |
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| 08:38.50 | Sargun | note to self: dd'ing something through telnet= bad idea |
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| 12:42.13 | bonez44 | what would it be callled, if you have a web page which two people can interactively fill out....both people are remote...not together..but one sends a link to the other and they both can see the same web page? |
| 12:42.33 | bonez44 | and whatever one fills out on their screen, it refreshes to the other's screen in real time... |
| 12:42.44 | bonez44 | is ther any particular name for this? |
| 12:51.54 | sargun_screen | morning |
| 12:54.50 | bonez44 | sargun_screen: howdy |
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| 13:18.40 | sargun_screen | heya guys |
| 13:26.33 | ^Migs^ | http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/tech-news/?p=2102 |
| 13:32.12 | ^Migs^ | http://www.ktnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7994979 |
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| 14:23.49 | goozbach | bonez44: screen sharing? |
| 14:24.21 | goozbach | bonez44: webex? |
| 14:26.20 | fozzmoo | Firefox 3 Beta 4: Five times faster than IE 7 |
| 14:27.03 | fozzmoo | http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette/?p=548&tag=nl.e539 |
| 14:27.41 | Supaplex | schweet |
| 14:27.57 | Supaplex | until you have 5x as many tabs open ;) |
| 14:27.58 | nick125 | Ugh...my morning is going really well..... |
| 14:28.23 | nick125 | AllowGroups !sshusers < A cookie for whoever finds the problem in that ... |
| 14:29.19 | vontrapp | lvcreate is complaining about device-mapper |
| 14:29.36 | vontrapp | that it's not found |
| 14:32.27 | herlo | fozzmoo: I'm runnig ff3b4 |
| 14:32.48 | fozzmoo | herlo: oh? |
| 14:33.13 | herlo | fozzmoo: its in the rawhide |
| 14:33.27 | fozzmoo | Wow. Nice. |
| 14:33.37 | fozzmoo | What's the pkg name? |
| 14:33.38 | vontrapp | rawhide? |
| 14:33.57 | fozzmoo | vontrapp: The gushing-blood edge of RH/Fedora |
| 14:34.18 | herlo | fozzmoo: let me look |
| 14:35.25 | fozzmoo | ~lart herlo |
| 14:35.25 | ibot | resizes herlo's terminal to 40x24 |
| 14:35.29 | fozzmoo | :-D |
| 14:35.48 | herlo | fozzmoo: pmd info though |
| 14:35.52 | herlo | ~lart fozzmoo |
| 14:35.52 | ibot | eats fozzmoo and falls over dead |
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| 14:40.37 | Supaplex | ~eat veggies |
| 14:40.38 | ibot | That's too disgusting. |
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| 14:43.04 | vontrapp | there's a firefox-3.0 package in ubuntu |
| 14:44.03 | vontrapp | yay, the reboot worked |
| 14:44.44 | fozzmoo | Holy cow. Dependency hell to jump to ff3 in development. |
| 14:45.04 | fozzmoo | Uh. I'll install the tarball and symlink to it. :) |
| 14:45.49 | vontrapp | any problem with changing group ownership of the vg in /dev ? |
| 14:46.04 | Supaplex | vontrapp: to what end? |
| 14:46.19 | vontrapp | to make them accessible to peoples in group disk? |
| 14:46.32 | elg | why would you want to do that? |
| 14:46.48 | vontrapp | for the same reason you have /dev/hda1 in group disk |
| 14:47.36 | vontrapp | now the question is, what should i call my brand new lv? |
| 14:47.40 | Supaplex | but why are peoples in group disk? |
| 14:47.54 | vontrapp | to have permission to do disk stuff |
| 14:48.16 | vontrapp | e.g. gparted |
| 14:49.04 | Supaplex | sounds hazardous to me. the only raw disks I give out are on a individual and dedicated basis for said users virtual machines |
| 14:49.17 | Supaplex | *shrug* |
| 14:50.40 | vontrapp | i guess i just don't like that i can't even ls the vg directories |
| 14:51.01 | vontrapp | anyway, i need a name |
| 14:51.51 | elg | SWEET someone emailed from craigslist about my gravel |
| 14:51.55 | Supaplex | my /dev/mapper has 0755 so I can see all the names w/o being in disk. |
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| 14:52.18 | vontrapp | mapper is your vg? |
| 14:52.39 | Supaplex | no |
| 14:52.55 | tensai | elg: would that be Men Seeking Gravel? |
| 14:53.09 | Supaplex | 'buffalo' is one, but is inaccessible to users in /dev/buffalo |
| 14:53.28 | Supaplex | it's in /dev/mapper anyway, so I'm happy with that. |
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| 15:01.18 | goozbach | remember everybody, Friday is π |
| 15:01.21 | goozbach | day |
| 15:01.29 | goozbach | did that work properly? |
| 15:01.39 | fozzmoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:01.48 | fozzmoo | Because it's 3/14? |
| 15:01.48 | goozbach | should be pi day |
| 15:02.02 | jsmith-teaching | Wow... could it be both pi-day and pay-day? |
| 15:02.21 | vontrapp | what is Ï Ï€? |
| 15:02.34 | goozbach | I'm having unicode problems |
| 15:02.55 | *** topic/#utah by elg -> http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | | UTOSC 2008 Call for Papers @ http://2008.utosc.com | Are you going to eat that? | Remember, the #utah charset is UTF-8. Anything else will get you lynched. |
| 15:03.48 | goozbach | elg: I'm using utf-8 |
| 15:03.54 | goozbach | my term doesn't understand it |
| 15:04.07 | elg | no, you think you're using utf-8 |
| 15:04.25 | elg | if you were using utf-8 but your term didn't display it right, then we would have seen it fine and you alone would have been in the dark |
| 15:04.51 | elg | not that we're gonna lynch you... |
| 15:04.57 | elg | well, it's tempting... |
| 15:05.04 | elg | but to help you diagnose |
| 15:05.10 | vontrapp | pitchfork... |
| 15:05.23 | elg | π |
| 15:05.32 | elg | that's kind of shaped like apitchfork |
| 15:05.36 | goozbach | elg: I didn't see it so I did it again |
| 15:05.43 | goozbach | the second time I did it right |
| 15:05.57 | goozbach | I guess my problem is screen |
| 15:06.06 | vontrapp | ⋔ |
| 15:06.36 | elg | goozbach: remember everybody, Friday is Ï Ï |
| 15:06.43 | elg | </quote> |
| 15:06.55 | elg | that's I with umlaut twice |
| 15:07.33 | goozbach | elg: I know, it's a user error, not a unicode error |
| 15:07.45 | elg | $ cat ~/.screenrc |
| 15:07.45 | elg | defutf8 on |
| 15:07.57 | elg | you mistook Ï for π? |
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| 15:08.20 | goozbach_ | testing π |
| 15:08.30 | goozbach_ | hmm. that time I saw pi |
| 15:08.37 | elg | so did I |
| 15:08.44 | vontrapp | yay |
| 15:08.51 | goozbach | screen is borked |
| 15:09.16 | vontrapp | i haven't had to do anything to have screen work |
| 15:09.29 | elg | i only had to do what I paste above |
| 15:10.53 | vontrapp | even when i try different terminals, screen Just Works |
| 15:11.00 | vontrapp | no screenrc |
| 15:11.53 | goozbach | also my shell underneath doesn't have $LANG set |
| 15:11.58 | goozbach | that might be my problem. |
| 15:12.22 | vontrapp | probably, i _do_ have problems when i ssh into screen from remote servers |
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| 15:13.04 | goozbach_ | ѳ |
| 15:13.21 | goozbach_ | Ï |
| 15:13.33 | goozbach | yup it's the LANG setting |
| 15:13.40 | goozbach | buhaha I have found the problem |
| 15:15.30 | sontek | Tene: will do! |
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| 15:17.59 | Supaplex | hey gooz :) |
| 15:20.21 | goozbach | ok let's try this again: |
| 15:20.41 | goozbach | a friendly reminder: Friday is π day |
| 15:20.47 | goozbach | YAY! it worked! |
| 15:22.52 | sontek | if you hiring another programmer (lead/architect level, not entry), what questions do you like to ask? |
| 15:23.12 | sontek | Gotta BS up an interview, forgot it was today :p |
| 15:23.21 | Supaplex | ewps :P |
| 15:23.28 | sontek | hes not gonna be here until 10:30 though =) gives me an hour |
| 15:26.10 | goozbach | buy him lunch |
| 15:27.33 | vontrapp | is there any advantage to making different lvs versus making multiple partitions on one lv? |
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| 15:30.12 | Supaplex | partitions on a lv would only be accessible to something using it as its entire disk (like virtual machines instead of /dev/sdX) |
| 15:30.24 | Supaplex | unless you're a loop.ko fan :P |
| 15:31.27 | RyanE | I always like to have them write a small function in C, something simple to see if they get pointers. Regardless of whether they're using C for their job. |
| 15:34.54 | jsmith-teaching | sontek: Ask them to "Estimate the number of gas stations in the United States. There are no right or wrong answers. Just think out loud." |
| 15:35.02 | jsmith-teaching | sontek: That's usually pretty informative |
| 15:35.29 | elg | let's see, if the exxon-mobil ceo flies this kind of jet... |
| 15:37.34 | goozbach | vontrapp: partitions in logical volumes don't really make a lot of sense |
| 15:38.16 | goozbach | unless of course the logical volume is a virtual disk image for something like a Xen or KVM or Qemu virtual machine. |
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| 15:48.08 | Supaplex | if instead of lvm you had your raw filesystems in a directory, would you partition each of those too, or use them as is? lvm is a partitionless paradigm we've all been screaming for. |
| 15:49.09 | elg | speak for yourself. I've been screaming for ice cream |
| 15:49.33 | Supaplex | ~feed elg |
| 15:49.33 | ibot | ACTION offers elg some pizza |
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| 17:33.52 | vontrapp | not sure i understand "raw filesystems in a directory" |
| 17:34.02 | vontrapp | but i get the lv is a partition thing |
| 17:35.38 | Supaplex | k :) dd if=/dev/sdaX of=someplace/mine.ext3 would be the raw filesystem in a directory. |
| 17:38.41 | vontrapp | hmm, i don't think that's like lvm, but ok |
| 17:39.25 | ^Migs^ | I just gave some details about a bathroom visit I just had in #web, and I got banned :( |
| 17:39.38 | ^Migs^ | what gives? I was just describing bodily functions. Perfectly natural stuff. |
| 17:40.07 | ^Migs^ | I mean, girls talk about their periods all the time. Why is that acceptable and my conversation wasn't? |
| 17:40.42 | vontrapp | because women have "women's rights"? |
| 17:40.55 | ^Migs^ | I think it's time for people to lighten up. |
| 17:41.33 | elg | are you racist? |
| 17:41.46 | ^Migs^ | Me? No. |
| 17:41.50 | elg | or do you mean it's time for people to weigh less? |
| 17:41.54 | ^Migs^ | oh haha |
| 17:41.58 | elg | perhaps by going to the bathroom |
| 17:42.16 | ^Migs^ | I think I weigh at least 10 pounds less after that occurrence I had. |
| 17:42.28 | rsimpkins | Does anyone hate DST more than myself? |
| 17:42.37 | rsimpkins | Takes my body two weeks to adjust. |
| 17:42.39 | vontrapp | elg: the racist issue isn't that black and white, there's a lot of browns, too |
| 17:43.15 | vontrapp | rsimpkins: i'll take you up on that! |
| 17:43.45 | vontrapp | i hate DST so much.... i go to work late half the year |
| 17:44.00 | rsimpkins | vontrapp: It is worthless, is proven to use more energy than not using, and my kids could care less what time it is - their bodies are still on last weeks schedule. |
| 17:44.03 | vontrapp | actually, that's not a bad idea |
| 17:44.07 | rsimpkins | Lowers productivity. |
| 17:44.14 | rsimpkins | Makes everyone grumpy/tired, etc. |
| 17:44.22 | vontrapp | everyone should just go to work late |
| 17:44.23 | Supaplex | ^Migs^: #web has enough crap? |
| 17:44.30 | ^Migs^ | hahahahaha |
| 17:44.36 | vontrapp | if we get enough people protesting DST in this way, they will have no choice but to abandon it |
| 17:44.37 | rsimpkins | Someone should do a study to see if DST leads to spousal or child abuse! Then that'd get it changed. :) |
| 17:45.19 | Supaplex | rsimpkins: DST is crewel and unusual punishment I say! |
| 17:45.24 | rsimpkins | I loved living in AZ where you don't have to deal with this stuff. |
| 17:45.43 | rsimpkins | If an entire state can get away without using DST - what the heck? |
| 17:46.02 | vontrapp | utahns band together! we can make utah the next AZ!! |
| 17:46.14 | Supaplex | I mean, why can't congress just pass a law that address the root of the problem? ;) |
| 17:46.26 | rsimpkins | Should I tell my boss "I don't care what time your clock says, I'll be here at 9am according to my clock." |
| 17:46.36 | vontrapp | rsimpkins: yeah |
| 17:46.50 | vontrapp | if you're willing to stay to the "real" 5:00, i don't see a problem at all |
| 17:47.25 | vontrapp | if i was a boss, i would encourage my employees to behave that way |
| 17:47.43 | Supaplex | humnn.... |
| 17:47.52 | vontrapp | if i was a store with customers, i would keep my hours the same throughout the year |
| 17:47.55 | rsimpkins | vontrapp: Maybe that's why you're not a boss? :) |
| 17:48.34 | vontrapp | then half the year you have 9-5 people that can come in before _your_ 5:00 :) |
| 17:49.24 | vontrapp | if i was working full time i would certainly bring it up with my boss |
| 17:49.35 | vontrapp | but since i go in in the afternoon anyway... |
| 17:50.06 | vontrapp | so whatya say? let's boycott DST! |
| 17:50.18 | vontrapp | tell all your friends |
| 17:50.52 | rsimpkins | I think more and more people are finding ways to dislike DST. |
| 17:51.06 | rsimpkins | It might take 30 years to change it though. |
| 17:51.09 | vontrapp | yeah, especially when they start changing it ever year |
| 17:51.55 | vontrapp | rsimpkins: that's not the right attitude, let's change it now! |
| 17:52.25 | rsimpkins | vontrapp: I'll just vote for you. That's much easier. Then you can be my representative and go and get it changed. |
| 17:52.31 | vontrapp | i'm going to run for state delegate |
| 17:52.44 | vontrapp | you're probably not in my precinct though |
| 17:52.46 | Supaplex | My new store hours are "Open: One hour after sunrise. Close: 10 hours after sunrise" |
| 17:53.00 | vontrapp | Supaplex: :) |
| 17:53.04 | rsimpkins | Supaplex: Do it in GMT. |
| 17:53.24 | rsimpkins | We need to move the whole nation - even the whole world - to start using GMT for everything. |
| 17:53.25 | Supaplex | time zones and specific time will just confuse them |
| 17:53.52 | rsimpkins | So many systems are already using GMT. |
| 17:54.04 | Supaplex | my brain isn't |
| 17:54.12 | vontrapp | it could though |
| 17:54.28 | Supaplex | I'm afraid of the upgrade ;) |
| 17:55.36 | vontrapp | instead of "you got up at 6AM? that's early!" it would be "you got up at 00:00 GMT? That's early!" |
| 17:55.55 | vontrapp | i get up at 02:00GMT |
| 17:58.59 | rsimpkins | It isn't that difficult. And you don't ever have to worry about appointment time mangling again. "I'll call you at 04:00GMT Tue." |
| 17:59.33 | vontrapp | and you would still have time zones, you just won't change the clock between them |
| 17:59.55 | vontrapp | businesses open at 04:00 GMT in california, but in utah they open 03:00 GMT |
| 18:00.14 | Supaplex | fungus: ping :) |
| 18:00.36 | fungus | ~pong Supaplex |
| 18:00.37 | ibot | Supaplex: PONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:01.43 | vontrapp | the only weird thing would be days changing at odd hours |
| 18:02.11 | Supaplex | at 00:00? |
| 18:02.37 | vontrapp | it's ok here, since 00:00 most people are still asleep, but what about egypt? |
| 18:02.41 | rsimpkins | vontrapp: I don't think that's strange at all. |
| 18:02.53 | rsimpkins | What is so special about the date? |
| 18:03.25 | Supaplex | I think I broke HR's head when I tried to explain how the timeclock works when you clock in on the graveyard shift before midnight, and leave the next day |
| 18:03.26 | rsimpkins | I'll meet you tue at 11:00GMT, oh oops, let's reschedule for wed 01:00GMT. |
| 18:03.33 | vontrapp | because throughout human history, days have mapped to when the sun is up |
| 18:04.09 | rsimpkins | Or, we can just switch to startdates. :) |
| 18:04.14 | vontrapp | that would be the hardest paradigm to break |
| 18:04.22 | vontrapp | rsimpkins: yeah! |
| 18:04.52 | vontrapp | first step, patch the `date` utility to output stardate |
| 18:05.12 | Supaplex | maybe an unoffical patch exists |
| 18:05.58 | vontrapp | i remember when my brother wrote a stardate clock in BASIC |
| 18:06.14 | vontrapp | hehe |
| 18:06.20 | vontrapp | good times |
| 18:12.45 | elg | no, that was my first c++ program! |
| 18:12.59 | vontrapp | didn't jacob do it in basic? |
| 18:13.02 | elg | though maybe we did a prototype in basic |
| 18:14.47 | Supaplex | -chat stardate |
| 18:14.48 | brac | stardate was |
| 18:16.27 | ^Migs^ | gah! |
| 18:16.28 | ^Migs^ | One in four teenage girls in the United States has a sexually-transmitted disease, a study has indicated. |
| 18:16.34 | ^Migs^ | The study, by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), found an even higher prevalence of STDs among black girls. |
| 18:16.37 | ^Migs^ | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7290088.stm |
| 18:16.40 | brac | [BBC NEWS | Americas | STDs rife among US teenage girls] |
| 18:16.45 | ^Migs^ | It found that nearly half of the African-American girls surveyed had at least one STD, while the rate was 20% among white and Mexican-American teenagers. |
| 18:17.44 | beandog | uh |
| 18:17.47 | beandog | what about the guys |
| 18:17.57 | Supaplex | so non teens and males are safe? ;) if they found that much out, why didn't they widen their scope after? |
| 18:18.21 | vontrapp | yeah, guys have sex, too! |
| 18:18.52 | ^Migs^ | prove it |
| 18:19.34 | Supaplex | yeah, what if it's an accident? |
| 18:20.37 | Supaplex | </just-wrong> :-p |
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| 18:39.26 | brasto | if i install an app with mac-ports, where does the app get installed to? |
| 18:39.45 | brasto | e.g.: in installed vim 7.1, but when i type 'vim' at cli, i still get vim 7.0... |
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| 18:42.09 | Supaplex | brasto: /usr/local/bin afaik. my macports is a tad old. |
| 18:43.00 | elg | /opt/local |
| 18:43.17 | elg | so you'd need PATH=/opt/local/bin:$PATH |
| 18:43.25 | elg | and look at macvim |
| 18:44.06 | Supaplex | my bad, 'which ...' did tell me /opt/local/bin - but I didn't pay enough attention :P |
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| 18:48.41 | Tene | Looks like parrot is collapsing the next three scheduled releases into the next release. |
| 18:49.44 | Jayce^ | Tene, ? |
| 18:50.07 | Tene | Jayce^: next week is release 0.6 |
| 18:50.38 | Tene | The targets for 0.7 and 0.8 have also been completed by now. |
| 18:50.42 | Jayce^ | wow |
| 18:50.53 | Tene | http://www.perlfoundation.org/parrot/index.cgi?release_planning |
| 18:51.13 | Tene | So now 0.6 just has those three targets, and later releases have been renumbered. |
| 18:54.37 | ^Migs^ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8pRW_QkZY4 |
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| 19:05.46 | ^Migs^ | http://bash.org/?846915 |
| 19:05.49 | brac | [QDB: Quote #846915] |
| 19:21.11 | ^Migs^ | wtf, who erased the notes I had in here on the whiteboard |
| 19:22.07 | Supaplex | oops |
| 19:28.12 | levi | Tene: So when's 1.0? ;) |
| 19:28.27 | Jayce^ | after 0.9 of course |
| 19:29.11 | Tene | levi: august/september, looks like |
| 19:29.20 | Tene | That's the current schedule. |
| 19:29.26 | sontek | Jayce^: so did you find new employment yet? |
| 19:29.38 | Jayce^ | sontek, just trying to decide between offers now |
| 19:29.51 | sontek | nice, where you looking? |
| 19:29.55 | levi | Tene: Cool. Does that have any relation to Perl 6's version status? |
| 19:30.06 | Jayce^ | now it's down to bluehost vs Freeside corp |
| 19:30.25 | sontek | freeside has its own corp? |
| 19:30.40 | Tene | bluehost ew. |
| 19:30.41 | Jayce^ | there is a freeside business that deals with it, yeah |
| 19:30.51 | Jayce^ | Tene :) it's a job |
| 19:30.57 | Jayce^ | that offers a lot :) |
| 19:31.35 | Tene | levi: not explicitly, but it's likely there will be a significant release at approximately the same time. |
| 19:32.46 | sontek | Jayce^: and you'll still be doing financial stuff for them? |
| 19:33.04 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 19:33.12 | Jayce^ | that's what they want me for (among other projects) |
| 19:34.47 | tensai | Jayce^: and then you could come up here and convert us from Platypus. you have that list I didn't send you, right? |
| 19:34.50 | sontek | Thats pretty nice, and its no change in commute time :P |
| 19:35.01 | Jayce^ | 'zaktly tensai |
| 19:37.04 | sontek | i'm gonna become a perl coder now! ;) |
| 19:37.09 | sontek | got to hack in it lastnight |
| 19:37.16 | sontek | felt dirty, but was fun |
| 19:38.24 | Tene | nice! |
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| 19:38.59 | sontek | The thing I liked is all the libraries I was using worked the way I expected them to |
| 19:39.11 | sontek | they were well thought out and worked great |
| 19:41.26 | jsmith-teaching | tensai: Wasn't me... I'm blaming the IT dept |
| 20:05.06 | sontek | TimRiker: so is ibot still a blootbot? or is blootbot now merged into infobot? |
| 20:13.06 | tensai | ~ibot |
| 20:13.07 | ibot | ibot is, like, a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 20:13.47 | Supaplex | DBD::csv anyone? *gag* |
| 20:13.59 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 20:14.07 | fozzmoo | It's cute. |
| 20:14.13 | fozzmoo | Not practical, but cute. |
| 20:14.40 | fozzmoo | It is proof of how versatile DBI is. |
| 20:15.05 | TimRiker | sontek: blootbot merged back into infobot on SF. ibot is still running the old tree cause I'm lazy. |
| 20:15.36 | sontek | TimRiker: so if I want to submit a patch to do currency conversions, infobot is where it should be done? |
| 20:15.41 | TimRiker | yes. |
| 20:15.45 | sontek | thanks |
| 20:15.56 | TimRiker | and it might motivate me to get off my duff and move ibot over. |
| 20:16.06 | Supaplex | :D |
| 20:16.22 | TimRiker | mind you I said might... :) |
| 20:18.02 | Supaplex | real soon now |
| 20:18.08 | TimRiker | :) |
| 20:20.35 | jnbek | when will/has the freebsd port be/been updated? |
| 20:21.41 | sontek | hmm, there is already a currency exchange module |
| 20:21.50 | sontek | I thought we said the other day there wasn't one |
| 20:25.29 | sontek | exchange 100 usd to aud |
| 20:25.34 | sontek | ~exchange 100 usd to aud |
| 20:26.05 | sontek | ahh |
| 20:26.05 | sontek | ok |
| 20:28.03 | Supaplex | if any code/kernel wizards can give me more ideas why this kernel build throws undefined reference to `i386_mmap_check', that'd be great. http://forums.grsecurity.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1922 usermode linux+grsecurity 2.1.11 on 2.6.24.3. mm/mmap.c has arch_mmap_check in do_mmap_pgoff, but no mention of i386_ anything |
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| 20:59.53 | lakshmi | holas |
| 21:20.45 | mrpull | am I late to the game on the Fred and Sharon Spencer videos? |
| 21:21.10 | mrpull | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC0sR5_NTFo |
| 21:22.27 | ^Migs^ | http://garfieldminusgarfield.tumblr.com/post/28552011 |
| 21:24.50 | nix_chix0r | lakshmi, why are you ctcp versioning me |
| 21:26.58 | lakshmi | i wanted to know what it did? |
| 21:30.28 | Jayce^ | mrpull, wtf is that? |
| 21:30.35 | fozzmoo | Xen question.... |
| 21:30.46 | mrpull | they have a website design and video production company |
| 21:30.47 | fozzmoo | How do you create a new virtual disk to add to an existing VM? |
| 21:31.11 | mrpull | really odd (unintentionally funny) stuff |
| 21:31.49 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 21:33.18 | mrpull | I guess it is that part of the day when silly things amuse me |
| 21:35.29 | goozbach | fozzmoo: which xen are you using? |
| 21:35.38 | fozzmoo | 3 |
| 21:35.46 | fozzmoo | goozbach: Need to add a second virtual disk |
| 21:35.50 | goozbach | Centos xen kernel |
| 21:35.54 | goozbach | xensource? |
| 21:35.57 | fozzmoo | I used dd if=/dev/zero |
| 21:36.01 | fozzmoo | Cent5 |
| 21:36.07 | nick125 | fozzmoo: LVM or file-based? |
| 21:36.11 | fozzmoo | Created a big file of zeroes. |
| 21:36.12 | fozzmoo | file based. |
| 21:36.15 | goozbach | running the stock centos kernel? |
| 21:36.21 | nick125 | fozzmoo: Then that should work. |
| 21:36.35 | goozbach | fozzmoo: fdisk /whatever/zero/file |
| 21:36.37 | nick125 | once you have the file, put a filesystem on it, and edit your VM config |
| 21:36.40 | goozbach | and make partitions |
| 21:36.48 | goozbach | or mkfs on it directly |
| 21:36.51 | nick125 | goozbach: That's complex though. |
| 21:36.55 | goozbach | and add it |
| 21:36.55 | nick125 | And annoying |
| 21:37.42 | goozbach | nick125: it'll match the devices that virt-install made |
| 21:37.55 | goozbach | which is less confusing from the guest perspective |
| 21:38.20 | nick125 | goozbach: I just use one file per partition...it's easier to work with, since you can mount it over loopback. |
| 21:40.13 | fozzmoo | So... it says I need to set the number of cylinds |
| 21:40.36 | nick125 | fozzmoo: Do you want one file per partition or one file with all of the partitions? |
| 21:40.57 | fozzmoo | I just need a partition. I don't need multiple partitions in the file. |
| 21:41.11 | nick125 | fozzmoo: Then just run mkfs on the file |
| 21:41.55 | fozzmoo | k |
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| 21:46.11 | fozzmoo | nick125: THanks! |
| 21:55.18 | Supaplex | oh so you want multiple files in that them there one partition |
| 22:04.50 | neybar | does anyone know if svn has a $Id$ tag similar to cvs? |
| 22:06.11 | nick125 | ..I never understood the point of the $Id$ tag. |
| 22:06.29 | goozbach | neybar: yup |
| 22:06.38 | goozbach | I forget what's it's called however |
| 22:06.43 | sjansen | print_version() { puts("$id$"); } |
| 22:06.50 | neybar | I find it really nice for looking at a file and immediately seeing what the version was |
| 22:08.35 | goozbach | neybar: it's an auto-prop |
| 22:08.39 | goozbach | auto property |
| 22:08.41 | goozbach | http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/ch07s02.html |
| 22:08.42 | brac | [Properties] |
| 22:08.51 | goozbach | somewhere about halfway down the page. |
| 22:10.45 | goozbach | search for svn:keywords |
| 22:12.42 | elg | one of the few things cvs got right |
| 22:12.52 | elg | and lamentably, that nobody seems to be able to duplicate |
| 22:13.03 | elg | svn's half-baked obfuscation aside |
| 22:18.26 | neybar | Looks like $LastChangedDate$ and $Rev$ gets me mostly what I want |
| 22:18.29 | Tene | elg: what do you think about git's implementation of that? |
| 22:20.06 | elg | dunno about it |
| 22:20.17 | elg | does it work like CVS? |
| 22:21.26 | Tene | Similar. |
| 22:22.37 | Tene | Ahh, looks like it shows the blob object name, not anything related to commits. |
| 22:23.24 | Tene | http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/44750 |
| 22:39.53 | Supaplex | hummm.. I have an ages old 1gb disk (and 1-2 compressed raw diskimages of it). I should throw testdisk at it to see if I can recover some of my old files. |
| 22:41.48 | elg | you might not like what you find |
| 22:49.18 | RyanE | I froze a disk last night, neighbor's laptop drive. was able to read it all via dd. |
| 22:49.51 | RyanE | previously, it was making an ominous ticking sound, but once it was frozen and kept cold, the ticking went away. |
| 22:51.20 | Supaplex | this disk had a fubared partition table or something. I checked it with strings and even made an attempt at recovering various files before testdisk was available. |
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| 22:55.22 | Supaplex | elg: meaning? |
| 22:55.43 | elg | maybe you've blocked out some of the memories of the 1G era |
| 22:55.56 | elg | maybe you don't want to know about what you've blocked out |
| 22:56.03 | elg | better safe than sorry |
| 22:56.59 | Supaplex | well it is the same drive that ran The Great Abyss BBS |
| 22:57.25 | Supaplex | but it was ext2+swap by then :) |
| 23:11.18 | sontek | anyone have a treo data cable I can borrow for a day? I gotta install some apps on my treo before I travel and the ones I ordered wont be here until after I flyout |
| 23:12.12 | nick125 | sontek: Couldn't you install them OTA? |
| 23:13.01 | sontek | nick125: I have a bunch on disk that I always use, I don't want to have to go to the OTA for each of them |
| 23:13.15 | sontek | I just forgot to put them on when I formatted |
| 23:13.34 | bmac2 | sontek |
| 23:13.44 | bmac2 | I have one you can use |
| 23:13.48 | bmac2 | what model treo? |
| 23:14.04 | sontek | 650 |
| 23:14.08 | nearn | sontek: you can have my old one |
| 23:14.14 | bmac2 | ok that is the same cable |
| 23:14.23 | bmac2 | I have one |
| 23:14.29 | bmac2 | are you near the U of Utah anywhere? |
| 23:14.33 | bmac2 | I live near the U |
| 23:15.27 | sontek | i'll take either =) |
| 23:15.32 | sontek | yeah I live downtown |
| 23:15.36 | bmac2 | k |
| 23:15.39 | bmac2 | pm |
| 23:19.27 | nearn | aight, I am out. |
| 23:19.31 | nearn | later guyzz |
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| 23:26.45 | elg | -chat |
| 23:26.47 | brac | usually 7, but sometimes there are so inherintly violent and stubborn, that's why it would be on a lectern during jumping jacks. |
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