| 00:00.01 | redbeard2 | ~lart elg |
| 00:00.01 | ibot | forces elg to use Outlook Express |
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| 01:25.25 | sargun_screen | hi guys. |
| 01:36.56 | sargun_screen | Julis bear had lots of hair, and it wasn't very fare, but they did dare to cause quite an affair |
| 01:37.03 | sargun_screen | Baer. |
| 01:37.09 | sargun_screen | BEA=BAER! |
| 02:05.16 | nick125 | sargun_screen: uh |
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| 03:06.29 | elg | oh no |
| 03:06.41 | elg | someone has written yet another abomination sound server |
| 03:06.56 | goozbach | yay |
| 03:06.58 | goozbach | 1 |
| 03:07.01 | elg | pulseaudio |
| 03:07.12 | goozbach | pulse! |
| 03:07.20 | goozbach | boom boom boom boom ! |
| 03:07.25 | elg | which apparently is based on esd, or at least supports esd |
| 03:07.35 | elg | which is of course the worst possibly antecedent |
| 03:23.08 | fozzmoo | elg: you're just now discovering pulse? |
| 03:23.41 | elg | call me sheltered by a decent soundcard |
| 03:26.33 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 03:26.40 | goozbach | buhaha?: |
| 03:26.42 | fozzmoo | Pulse is... not without its issues |
| 03:27.06 | goozbach | I didn't have sound until fozz figured it out |
| 03:27.28 | goozbach | I also figured out how to get my thinkpad volume buttons to work! |
| 03:27.32 | goozbach | yay tpb |
| 03:30.04 | elg | the only sound server worth using on its own merits is jack, and very useful it is |
| 03:30.19 | elg | everything else is a hack for sound cards that don't do hardware mixing |
| 03:30.56 | elg | the proper place for that workaround is at the kernel level, and it's been doable for quite some time now (alsa dmix) |
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| 03:45.07 | findlay | ~install Supaplex |
| 03:45.08 | ibot | ACTION runs yum -y localinstall Supaplex-4.2-1.noarch.rpm |
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| 03:47.41 | vontrapp | i don't know why _anything_ uses 'sound servers' anymore |
| 03:48.26 | vontrapp | it was annoying a few years ago to only have one thing use sound at a time, but even then sound servers caused more problems then they solved |
| 03:48.37 | vontrapp | now there's simply no need whatsoever |
| 03:49.00 | elg | exactly |
| 03:49.03 | elg | let alone write a new one |
| 03:52.42 | maquis | Sargun: sup? |
| 03:52.52 | Sargun | maquis, Not much, yourself? |
| 03:53.33 | maquis | not much. just saw you join #olpc,and figured i'd say hi over here :) |
| 03:54.35 | Sargun | Yeah |
| 03:54.41 | Sargun | Remember, I got an OLPC |
| 03:54.47 | Sargun | through G1G1 |
| 03:54.50 | Sargun | Did you get yours yet? |
| 03:54.58 | maquis | yup. how's itfor you/ |
| 03:55.03 | Sargun | Good |
| 03:55.10 | Sargun | And yours? |
| 03:55.20 | maquis | in case you can't tell, i'm typing on it :) |
| 03:55.51 | maquis | mine's good. a few minor annoyances, but i'm enjoying it a lot |
| 03:56.40 | maquis | trying to track down an odd hang problem, currently |
| 03:56.45 | Sargun | hang problem? |
| 03:56.52 | Sargun | Weird, I didn't see anything like that... :-/ |
| 03:57.05 | Sargun | Yeah, my fingers are huge, I cannot use the keyboard. |
| 03:57.13 | vontrapp | i think olpc has it backwards |
| 03:57.19 | maquis | only happns when i'm reading books |
| 03:57.19 | vontrapp | it should be one child per laptop |
| 03:57.41 | vontrapp | and you, my friends, are no children :p |
| 03:58.22 | maquis | vontrapp: i disagree for one particular reason: |
| 03:58.38 | maquis | if i dont have one, i can't contribute to the projec |
| 03:58.39 | maquis | t |
| 03:58.45 | Sargun | vontrapp, I am! |
| 03:58.51 | vontrapp | oh yeah |
| 03:59.03 | findlay | who handed out all the plusses? |
| 03:59.17 | vontrapp | +findlay |
| 03:59.23 | maquis | Sargun: how old are you now? i'm guessing you're above the official (international) age of a child |
| 04:00.58 | Sargun | Nope! |
| 04:00.59 | Sargun | 17. |
| 04:01.12 | vontrapp | but maquis, we have plenty of laptops, we need more children! |
| 04:04.27 | vontrapp | was it a witty comment? |
| 04:04.31 | vontrapp | or pithy? |
| 04:04.57 | maquis | somewhat witty |
| 04:05.06 | maquis | but... not something i'm going to say |
| 04:06.32 | Sargun | I'm so pretty, and witty, and gaaay! |
| 04:11.42 | maquis | ~lart Sargun |
| 04:11.42 | ibot | pulls out his louisville slugger and uses Sargun's head to break the homerun record |
| 04:12.53 | Sargun | Aww :-( |
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| 04:53.14 | undertakingyou | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_Microsoft_competition_case |
| 05:13.10 | elg | might be my imagination, but IIRC compared to vmware fusion, Q (qemu front end) is deathly slow |
| 05:13.18 | elg | if I recall the speed of fusion correctly, that is |
| 05:13.49 | elg | my fans are going full blast and I'm just in the middle of a debian text-mode install. just copying files! |
| 05:15.24 | elg | but it's nice to have a free option |
| 05:55.57 | findlay | http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-03/nios-nl030308.php |
| 05:55.59 | brac | [NIST 'quantum logic clock' rivals mercury ion as world's most accurate clock] |
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| 06:49.39 | sn00p- | Hi UtaH |
| 06:49.42 | sn00p- | ANYBODY ALIVE? |
| 07:05.33 | RedHeron | Apparently not. |
| 07:08.30 | sn00p- | I need to find someonoe that gets kcsg |
| 07:12.28 | RedHeron | Is it contagious? |
| 07:13.02 | RedHeron | And http://www.kcsg.com/ doesn't work? |
| 07:13.49 | sn00p- | i'm not in utah |
| 07:14.32 | RedHeron | So their web site doesn't work? |
| 07:14.57 | sn00p- | yes it works whats the point? |
| 07:15.29 | sn00p- | I need someone whos gets kcsg on there tv to record some episodes |
| 07:15.41 | RedHeron | Oh, you mean piracy. |
| 07:15.48 | sn00p- | hahah |
| 07:15.50 | sn00p- | thats not piracy |
| 07:15.55 | RedHeron | I know. |
| 07:15.57 | RedHeron | Public domain. |
| 07:16.03 | RedHeron | But still. |
| 07:16.21 | RedHeron | Sorry, I don't think anyone's awake. |
| 07:16.39 | RedHeron | Well, except me, and I'm in N. Utah. |
| 07:16.44 | sn00p- | its not piracy if you dont charge for it |
| 07:16.54 | RedHeron | It is if it's cable? |
| 07:16.59 | sn00p- | no |
| 07:17.03 | RedHeron | Okay, good. |
| 07:17.05 | RedHeron | Whew! |
| 07:17.10 | sn00p- | lol |
| 07:17.16 | sn00p- | any how I dont give a fuck about piracy |
| 07:17.20 | RedHeron | PBS* |
| 07:17.31 | RedHeron | Darn. |
| 07:17.41 | RedHeron | 'Cause I'm an officer for the Pirate Party. |
| 07:17.53 | sn00p- | haha yea and i'm whoopy goldberg |
| 07:17.59 | RedHeron | I really am. |
| 07:18.01 | RedHeron | I can prove it. |
| 07:18.13 | sn00p- | I really dont care |
| 07:18.51 | RedHeron | But, but... but... but... |
| 07:19.12 | RedHeron | Okay, seriously, if nobody's jumping in after that, they're not awake. |
| 07:19.31 | sn00p- | you think |
| 07:19.59 | RedHeron | "No, but it sounded stupid, so I thought I'd say it." |
| 07:21.12 | RedHeron | Night, Utah... and #utah... and Minnesota. |
| 07:21.31 | sn00p- | oh you whoised me |
| 07:21.33 | sn00p- | you smart |
| 07:21.36 | RedHeron | No I didn't. |
| 07:21.48 | RedHeron | * sn00p- (i=sn00p@c-24-118-18-62.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) has joined #utah |
| 07:21.55 | RedHeron | No whois necessary. |
| 07:22.47 | RedHeron | /cycle |
| 07:22.50 | RedHeron | It's fun. |
| 07:42.02 | RedHeron | By the way, her name is 'Whoopi'. |
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| 07:44.42 | RedHeron | Nice town, Rochester. |
| 07:45.03 | sn00p- | not really |
| 07:45.37 | RedHeron | Sure it is. "Nice" is from the Latin "Nessius" which is from "Na Ce" and that means "Stupid". |
| 07:46.34 | sn00p- | you ever been there? |
| 07:46.53 | RedHeron | Yes, I have a friend who was dying at the Mayo Clinic and in federal prison. |
| 07:47.29 | RedHeron | Well, we thought. |
| 07:47.42 | RedHeron | Turns out he lucked out and survived. |
| 07:48.45 | sn00p- | Walker Texas Ranger police went to a guys door to serve a straining order and the guy kills the cop |
| 07:48.46 | sn00p- | gotta love it |
| 07:49.59 | sn00p- | if a cop ever coughs an attitude with me thats what i'm gonna do stab him in the chest |
| 07:50.34 | RedHeron | And you'll likely die soon after. Cops hate cop-killers. |
| 07:50.41 | sn00p- | heh |
| 07:51.23 | sn00p- | before I die thats all I wanna do is kill a cop or a FBI person |
| 07:54.19 | RedHeron | How unhealthy. |
| 07:54.27 | RedHeron | For both of you. :D |
| 07:54.44 | sn00p- | Its all corrupt who the fuck cares |
| 07:55.03 | RedHeron | Why not work to change the corruption? |
| 07:55.23 | sn00p- | i'm just a little man |
| 07:55.43 | sn00p- | 6more years I can run for president |
| 07:57.46 | sn00p- | I would make Pot legal and make alcohol illegal |
| 07:57.55 | sn00p- | shut down all the breweries |
| 07:58.12 | RedHeron | Yeah, you'd be real popular, I'm sure. |
| 07:58.21 | sn00p- | screw alcohol |
| 07:58.25 | RedHeron | Just have to get you in there first. |
| 07:58.39 | RedHeron | Alcohol is more psychologically addictive than even pot. |
| 07:58.55 | RedHeron | Tobacco ranks up there with heroin on psychological addiction. |
| 07:59.01 | RedHeron | Physically, both are about the same. |
| 07:59.19 | sn00p- | more violence with alcohol than with pot |
| 07:59.31 | RedHeron | Pot makes people too lazy to be violent, in general. |
| 07:59.34 | sn00p- | yea |
| 07:59.44 | RedHeron | But more contemplative. |
| 08:00.08 | RedHeron | Harvard did a 30-year study on emergency room visits. |
| 08:00.36 | sn00p- | RedHeron, you like rap? |
| 08:01.00 | RedHeron | I don't listen to a lot of music at all, these days. |
| 08:01.20 | sn00p- | Can I post you a url on youtube you might like it |
| 08:01.31 | sn00p- | Its somewhat political |
| 08:01.37 | RedHeron | Sure, but be aware that my speakers were hijacked by my lady. :D |
| 08:01.44 | sn00p- | oh |
| 08:01.45 | sn00p- | :( |
| 08:01.49 | RedHeron | Until tomorrow morning, that is. |
| 08:01.58 | sn00p- | ear phones? |
| 08:02.15 | RedHeron | If I can find 'em... I haven't used those in like a year, but I'll look. |
| 08:02.20 | RedHeron | PM the URL to me |
| 08:02.25 | RedHeron | That way I can find it easier. |
| 08:02.27 | sn00p- | not much point watching the video without sound |
| 08:02.31 | sn00p- | ok |
| 08:02.44 | sn00p- | how old are you? |
| 08:03.03 | RedHeron | Older than dirt, not old enough to know better. ;-) |
| 08:03.09 | sn00p- | heh |
| 08:03.24 | sn00p- | well Freenode has a lot of mature people on it unlike other networks |
| 08:04.27 | RedHeron | Yes, I agree. And a lot of people who think they're mature and can't hold more than a 2-line conversation. |
| 08:04.41 | RedHeron | Glad to see which kind you are. :-) |
| 08:05.02 | sn00p- | ya, heh well most people which are kids will judge you in a second and not let you get a word in edge wise |
| 08:05.41 | sn00p- | But when someone does that it gets me going for some reason nag them to death |
| 08:05.43 | RedHeron | I try hard to be judgeable. |
| 08:05.55 | sn00p- | heh |
| 08:06.01 | RedHeron | Makes the immature ones less likely to want to talk to me. |
| 08:06.27 | sn00p- | I'de make it so gas is $1.00 set price |
| 08:06.47 | RedHeron | The oil companies would loathe that, I'm sure. :D |
| 08:07.02 | RedHeron | Gas prices are what set the rate of inflation. |
| 08:07.11 | sn00p- | lol fuck that 3 cent gas tax |
| 08:07.13 | RedHeron | Cost of transprot, etc. |
| 08:07.27 | RedHeron | transport |
| 08:07.41 | RedHeron | Sorry, trying to work and talk. Don't get the chance often at this hour. |
| 08:08.18 | sn00p- | 95% of me is a pessimist person |
| 08:08.42 | nix_chix0r | utaaaaaaaaaah! |
| 08:08.54 | sn00p- | do you get kcsg |
| 08:09.03 | sn00p- | oih |
| 08:09.04 | sn00p- | lol |
| 08:09.04 | sn00p- | nm |
| 08:09.28 | sn00p- | I hope John McCain wins |
| 08:09.30 | nix_chix0r | how is utah?? |
| 08:10.57 | RedHeron | John McCain, the anti-torture advocate who voted in favor of waterboarding? |
| 08:11.16 | RedHeron | Utah is cold.. not bad, but a little chilly at 24 deg |
| 08:11.22 | sn00p- | you Like MCCain |
| 08:11.30 | nix_chix0r | mccain is too old |
| 08:11.37 | sn00p- | nah |
| 08:11.42 | nix_chix0r | yar hes like 100 |
| 08:11.42 | sn00p- | hes experienced |
| 08:11.44 | nix_chix0r | haha |
| 08:12.21 | nix_chix0r | experienced maybe but, we need a new approach to things |
| 08:12.35 | sn00p- | <p`u> Hamel, MN (55340): Clear, -4 degrees |
| 08:12.35 | sn00p- | <p`u> as of: 1:45 AM CST on March 7, 2008 |
| 08:12.40 | sn00p- | Burrr |
| 08:12.53 | nix_chix0r | where is hamel |
| 08:12.59 | sn00p- | Central MN |
| 08:13.09 | nix_chix0r | i'm in minneapolis right now |
| 08:13.10 | nix_chix0r | heh |
| 08:13.22 | sn00p- | High Way 55 north west |
| 08:13.45 | nix_chix0r | i only really came in here to make fun of mormans;p |
| 08:13.51 | sn00p- | lol |
| 08:14.08 | nix_chix0r | cause its 2 and i'm drinking |
| 08:14.14 | sn00p- | Ice Cubes new rap video RedHeron one line of lyrics say I'm utah I got multiple its a new law |
| 08:14.21 | nix_chix0r | ha |
| 08:14.24 | sn00p- | multiple bitches |
| 08:14.37 | nix_chix0r | supa pimp |
| 08:14.58 | sn00p- | nix_chix0r, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzeZhCt5PVA |
| 08:15.25 | nix_chix0r | yeah i cant be viewin youtube at this hour my friends kids are in the next room |
| 08:15.39 | sn00p- | :( |
| 08:15.41 | nix_chix0r | drove down for the week |
| 08:15.43 | RedHeron | "political experience" = "corruption" |
| 08:15.56 | sn00p- | Obama is already corrupted |
| 08:16.00 | sn00p- | so is hillary |
| 08:16.09 | nix_chix0r | i dont mind obama |
| 08:16.16 | RedHeron | Nah, Obama's the only one I think is actually honest... and has the track record to prove it. |
| 08:16.17 | nix_chix0r | he's a lot of talk though |
| 08:16.27 | sn00p- | Thats one of congress requirements that you have some experience in corruption |
| 08:16.34 | RedHeron | He talks a lot because he keeps having to prove things. |
| 08:16.39 | nix_chix0r | so what if he doesn't have experience though |
| 08:16.45 | nix_chix0r | that comes with time |
| 08:16.59 | nix_chix0r | with all the people to help him |
| 08:17.01 | nix_chix0r | he'll be fine |
| 08:17.04 | RedHeron | Obama has a 12-year track record of saying "I'm gonna..." and actually following through. |
| 08:17.18 | nix_chix0r | i'm rootin for him |
| 08:17.22 | RedHeron | He also admits it when he's wrong... which I personally admire. |
| 08:17.23 | sn00p- | i'm not |
| 08:17.31 | sn00p- | pfft |
| 08:17.36 | sn00p- | Hes only doing that for the cameras |
| 08:17.36 | nix_chix0r | sn00p-, too each and their own |
| 08:17.57 | RedHeron | It isn't "for the cameras" when he does it behind the scenes and doesn't make a fuss. |
| 08:18.27 | Sargun | hi |
| 08:18.36 | RedHeron | Took the news a month to find out about Rizzo, but there wasn't really a big story there because he'd already donated what he thought he'd made off Rizzo to charity. |
| 08:18.46 | nix_chix0r | hai Sargun |
| 08:18.53 | RedHeron | Heya, Sargun. |
| 08:19.18 | sn00p- | Sargun, you get KCSG? |
| 08:19.19 | Sargun | superpimp is the root password that major company uses for their production servers... |
| 08:19.38 | Sargun | sn00p-, Nope. |
| 08:19.47 | sn00p- | damn I need to find somene that gets KCSG |
| 08:20.06 | Sargun | why? |
| 08:20.21 | sn00p- | because they play dennis the menace on there a lot and I want someone to record it |
| 08:20.31 | Sargun | Dennis the Menace? |
| 08:20.34 | sn00p- | Yea |
| 08:20.37 | Sargun | Wow, you must be quite old.... |
| 08:20.37 | RedHeron | The old 50's one? |
| 08:20.43 | sn00p- | yea |
| 08:20.45 | sn00p- | black and white |
| 08:20.49 | RedHeron | Wow. |
| 08:20.55 | sn00p- | no i'm 28 |
| 08:21.00 | RedHeron | Haven't seen that myself in a few years. |
| 08:21.20 | sn00p- | when I was at my grandmas house when I was younger it was always on there and I lvoed them |
| 08:21.45 | Sargun | You seem like you'd need a 6-bit number to express your age... |
| 08:21.59 | Sargun | sn00p-, Uh, its KCSG OTA? |
| 08:22.07 | sn00p- | yea |
| 08:23.42 | RedHeron | 6-bit = 2^6 power = 64 or less? |
| 08:23.50 | Sargun | 63 or less.. |
| 08:24.01 | RedHeron | D'oh! Right. |
| 08:24.22 | RedHeron | 7-bit |
| 08:24.27 | nix_chix0r | Sargun, amandas house is uber hotyo |
| 08:44.38 | lakshmi | don't you hate hypocrites? |
| 08:50.17 | RedHeron | Only when they piss me off? |
| 08:50.59 | nix_chix0r | i only hate hypocrites when they do something they are against |
| 08:51.29 | lakshmi | nix_chix0r isnt that what a hypocrite is.. ? |
| 08:51.39 | nix_chix0r | fail at joke |
| 08:51.42 | Sargun | nix_chix0r, Isn't that definitionally a hypocrite? |
| 08:52.01 | nix_chix0r | epic fail |
| 08:52.41 | RedHeron | Aww... s'okay. |
| 08:52.56 | nix_chix0r | and this is why i drink!! |
| 08:53.06 | RedHeron | Oh, I thought you just liked alcohol. |
| 08:53.11 | nix_chix0r | bah |
| 08:53.18 | nix_chix0r | i'm drinking a sisy drink |
| 08:53.28 | RedHeron | Please say it's not a wine cooler. |
| 08:53.35 | nix_chix0r | my killians is upstares and i'm too lazy |
| 08:53.39 | RedHeron | Ah. |
| 08:53.42 | nix_chix0r | so i'm drinking a not so hard lemonade |
| 08:53.53 | RedHeron | Heh. |
| 08:54.07 | nix_chix0r | mikes cranberry thats gona leave an odd taste in the mouth when i wake up |
| 08:54.21 | RedHeron | Better than some odd tastes I can think of. |
| 08:54.36 | nix_chix0r | id say |
| 08:54.45 | RedHeron | Or waking up with cottonmouth. That sucks, too. |
| 08:54.52 | nix_chix0r | i hate that heh |
| 08:55.10 | nix_chix0r | and you can chug water but it wont do any good |
| 08:55.19 | nix_chix0r | still feel all dry |
| 08:55.36 | RedHeron | Yeah, the only thing that seems to work for me is orange juice. |
| 08:55.45 | RedHeron | And even then, it's like a gallon. |
| 08:55.54 | nix_chix0r | yeah. |
| 08:56.01 | RedHeron | And then I'm running to the bathroom all day. |
| 08:56.27 | nix_chix0r | think i'll save the beer for after the meeting |
| 08:56.51 | nix_chix0r | hackers here i come to phreak urrr phonz |
| 08:57.36 | RedHeron | im in ur phones phreakin ur numberz |
| 08:57.36 | RedHeron | ? |
| 08:58.02 | nix_chix0r | haw |
| 08:59.32 | nix_chix0r | they need to host more 2600 meetings |
| 08:59.37 | nix_chix0r | one a month first friday |
| 08:59.45 | nix_chix0r | is hard to get to when you live three hours away |
| 09:00.07 | nix_chix0r | i think i'm just gona get sloshed at this meeting |
| 09:00.16 | RedHeron | I only hack governments, I don't hack much else. |
| 09:00.39 | nix_chix0r | though, that usually ends up me streaking |
| 09:00.41 | nix_chix0r | arg |
| 09:00.50 | Sargun | That's always fun |
| 09:00.52 | nix_chix0r | and in weather like this i beter not |
| 09:01.38 | RedHeron | Yeah, frostbitten nipples are not fun. |
| 09:01.45 | nix_chix0r | defo not |
| 09:01.48 | nix_chix0r | oww |
| 09:02.16 | Sargun | Oh. That would represent a problem |
| 09:02.28 | RedHeron | Minnesota's not the funnest. |
| 09:02.35 | Sargun | Move to California |
| 09:02.44 | RedHeron | Less fun there. |
| 09:02.58 | nix_chix0r | Sargun, when you become super rich |
| 09:03.00 | nix_chix0r | i'll consider it |
| 09:03.03 | nix_chix0r | so i dont have to work |
| 09:03.12 | Sargun | haha |
| 09:03.16 | nix_chix0r | i can just spend all day looking in the mirror being hot |
| 09:03.32 | nix_chix0r | like on orange county show |
| 09:03.34 | RedHeron | They told me to go away after I asked a cop where people get pot from... as in, "where does it come from" |
| 09:03.48 | nix_chix0r | RedHeron, cabbage patch |
| 09:03.51 | nix_chix0r | so i hear |
| 09:04.05 | RedHeron | I thought it was a tomato garden. |
| 09:04.09 | RedHeron | Wow, my bad! |
| 09:04.19 | nix_chix0r | dude way off |
| 09:04.58 | RedHeron | Birdseed. That's where pot comes from. |
| 09:05.39 | RedHeron | Or wait... no, it's the metalworks! |
| 09:06.28 | RedHeron | Lotsa smoke at the steel plant. All of those people are thus pot smokers by default. |
| 09:08.01 | Sargun | ~dexter |
| 09:08.02 | ibot | i guess dexter is _obsolete_, use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and dexconf to generate a XF86Config-4. Dexter was a dialog-based XF86Config file generator in the XF4 debs; its purpose was to get people into X fast and easily, not provide an interface to every tricked-out XF86Config option. |
| 09:11.45 | RedHeron | Okay, officially time for bed... lady's telling me she'll hold my speakers for ransom for an extra day if I don't. |
| 09:12.22 | nix_chix0r | haha |
| 09:12.24 | nix_chix0r | gogo |
| 09:12.46 | Sargun | Oh, noes! |
| 09:13.23 | sn00p- | haven't you guy snotice when cops pull you over they dont look directly into the car window |
| 09:14.58 | Sargun | yes... |
| 09:15.09 | Sargun | they also don't park their car directly behind yours |
| 09:15.14 | Sargun | etc |
| 09:15.20 | sn00p- | yea they do |
| 09:15.29 | sn00p- | well its not like close |
| 09:15.32 | sn00p- | but a little far away |
| 09:15.33 | Sargun | isn't it slightly to the left? |
| 09:15.37 | sn00p- | no |
| 09:15.38 | Sargun | and a little far away |
| 09:15.49 | sn00p- | Maybe slightly left |
| 09:15.52 | sn00p- | that would make sence |
| 09:15.57 | sn00p- | if you try and take off |
| 09:16.10 | Sargun | Yea... |
| 09:16.27 | sn00p- | if a officer ever stick his head in front of my window i'd bash is face in |
| 09:16.28 | sn00p- | hahha |
| 09:17.43 | Sargun | What? |
| 09:44.44 | Sargun | I don't llike SQL |
| 09:45.02 | lakshmi | who does? |
| 09:45.22 | Sargun | Sun? |
| 09:45.48 | lakshmi | well they suck |
| 09:45.55 | lakshmi | so they dont count. |
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| 14:17.15 | Supaplex | mornin' jsmith |
| 14:17.34 | jsmith | Morning Supaplex |
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| 14:33.25 | herlo | jsmith: is it morning where you are? To me, its just been a very long night... |
| 14:34.17 | jsmith | herlo: Uh, yeah... I actually got a good eight hours of sleep last night |
| 14:38.25 | herlo | s/)/ 8-C/g |
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| 14:59.43 | herlo | s/)/ 8-C/ |
| 14:59.51 | herlo | stupid bot |
| 15:01.22 | Supaplex | it dun work on /me stuff |
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| 15:03.52 | herlo | Supaplex: that sucks, it should! |
| 15:04.23 | Supaplex | send tim your patches :) |
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| 15:23.34 | Supaplex | will one svn repo host multiple projects (svnadmin create), or should I svnadmin create anytime I have a new project? |
| 15:28.47 | beandog_ | you gotta make new ones |
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| 15:29.08 | vontrapp | the future is distributed! use hg or git or darcs |
| 15:29.48 | Supaplex | too many rsc's to care |
| 15:29.59 | Supaplex | s/rsc/rcs/ |
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| 15:37.46 | elg | snake on a plane http://flash.aopa.org/asf/pilotstories/snake/ |
| 15:42.49 | elg | Supaplex: that's like using windows 98 because there's too many operating systems to care |
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| 15:49.28 | Supaplex | if you say so. I'll poke at them new types sooner or later |
| 15:51.33 | elg | that's what the old grandmas say about windows 98 too ;-) |
| 15:52.24 | elg | hg is really not that much of a learning curve from cvs/svn, especially given the kind of question you're asking about svn |
| 15:53.31 | Supaplex | that's good to know |
| 15:54.54 | elg | http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/wiki/index.cgi/CvsInfo |
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| 16:47.35 | sjansen | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/funny-pictures-angry-cat-in-bath.jpg |
| 16:48.03 | sjansen | Er, I meant: http://webkit.org/blog/158/the-acid-3-test/ |
| 16:48.53 | sjansen | I can't wait for GNOME to have a stable WebKit based browser. I now regret making fun of the KHTML developers for not using Gecko. |
| 16:50.28 | synic | yeah, then you'll be able to browse icanhascheezburger in a standards compliant browser with a smile on your face. |
| 16:51.00 | beandog | thats how it should be. |
| 17:00.38 | sjansen | http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/03/05/webkit-demobrowser/ <-- A Qt developer shows Qt based WebKit in Windows, Mac OS and... GNOME?! |
| 17:03.34 | beandog | Windows and GNOME ... yah, those belong in the same category. |
| 17:04.59 | sjansen | You're saying Windows is also better than KDE? I beg to differ. |
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| 17:15.27 | herlo | sjansen: I think beandog does too |
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| 17:39.34 | findlay | hello |
| 17:39.59 | findlay | what's all this +v nonsense? |
| 17:40.14 | elg | no clue |
| 17:40.33 | findlay | maybe chanserv is going looney |
| 17:44.14 | elg | if he gives voice to ^Migs^ we'll know he's gone looney |
| 17:45.12 | findlay | let's wait and see |
| 17:46.23 | ^Migs^ | I demand voice. |
| 17:48.01 | nearn | no you dont |
| 17:51.07 | Sargun | nearn demands voice. |
| 17:51.15 | dmdavis | we demand that we may or may not want voice! |
| 17:54.04 | nix_chix0r | Sargun, whsz |
| 17:54.27 | Sargun | nick125, Mornin' |
| 17:56.04 | Sargun | er |
| 17:56.07 | Sargun | nix_chix0r, Mornin' |
| 17:56.15 | Sargun | What's up? |
| 17:57.01 | levi | Cool, GNU Smalltalk supports Seaside now. |
| 17:58.06 | levi | If any of you were vaguely interested in Smalltalk and/or Seaside but were turned off by the image-based nature of Squeak, now's the time to check it out again. |
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| 18:01.25 | goozbach | just to make sure :) |
| 18:01.43 | goozbach | findlay: TimRiker changed the access level for voice |
| 18:01.54 | goozbach | so all of us part-time ops ended up with autovoice |
| 18:02.08 | goozbach | so when the stuff hits the fan... |
| 18:02.10 | goozbach | +m! |
| 18:04.21 | jsmith | goozbach: With power comes responsibility... |
| 18:04.42 | goozbach | yup |
| 18:04.47 | goozbach | gotta be responsible |
| 18:04.54 | goozbach | spider man's uncle says so |
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| 18:05.39 | beandog | I thought that was his aunt |
| 18:07.10 | TimRiker | nope. it was Uncle Ben. |
| 18:08.05 | TimRiker | http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Stan_Lee |
| 18:08.08 | beandog | his name was Ben? |
| 18:11.32 | elg | not bean |
| 18:11.59 | dmdavis | what do you guys recommend for ripping DVDs? |
| 18:12.13 | dmdavis | I've been using mencoder, but was wondering if there were better options |
| 18:13.02 | elg | jack the ripper on osx hasn't failed me in getting the dvd filesystem off the dvd |
| 18:13.11 | elg | if that's what you want to do |
| 18:13.30 | dmdavis | I would just like a video file of the actual movie, and something that runs in Linux |
| 18:13.30 | beandog | mencoder > your mom |
| 18:14.20 | elg | mencoder and friends to make an mkv file with chapters |
| 18:14.45 | beandog | dmdavis, theres a few options on linux, do you just want to rip the mpeg2 or also encode it |
| 18:14.51 | elg | if mencoder can't read the full disk because of copy protection, things get more interesting |
| 18:15.21 | elg | where copy protection == deliberate sabotage |
| 18:15.28 | dmdavis | basically, I want my movies on my computer for easy access, but compressed without too much loss of quality |
| 18:16.10 | beandog | well, copy protection wont stop you half way |
| 18:16.18 | beandog | it'll either stop you from reading it, or not. |
| 18:16.26 | dmdavis | I've tried mencoder and HandBrake, and they both work fine, though mencoder takes forever |
| 18:16.31 | elg | what about the bad sectors variety? |
| 18:16.36 | beandog | a crappy dvd transfer or buggy firmware or an old dvd lib will stop it halfway. |
| 18:16.54 | elg | handbrake is certainly one of the easier ways to go |
| 18:17.09 | elg | but that's osx isnt' it? or do they have a linux version? |
| 18:17.11 | beandog | dmdavis, check out dvd::rip if you haven't already |
| 18:17.17 | beandog | elg, I dont think they do |
| 18:17.21 | dmdavis | elg: they have it for linux, mac and windows |
| 18:17.31 | beandog | oh, or they do. :) |
| 18:17.33 | dmdavis | beandog: k, thanks |
| 18:17.37 | elg | ah, well then |
| 18:17.54 | elg | handbrake with the appropriate preset. magic mkv files with chapters already, no futzing around |
| 18:18.00 | dmdavis | beandog: yeah, I compiled the linux version yesterday, and it ran without problems |
| 18:18.00 | beandog | dmdavis, that will use transcode instead of mplayer/mencoder |
| 18:18.02 | elg | same caveats about copy protection though |
| 18:18.14 | beandog | elg, handbrake supports mkv? nice. |
| 18:18.22 | beandog | dmdavis, also, I personally like ogmrip |
| 18:18.49 | elg | yeah, I was looking at handbrake again yesterday for the first time in quite a while. It is much much nicer now |
| 18:19.04 | dmdavis | it's also pretty fast |
| 18:19.19 | elg | well it's just a front end for whatever encoding tools it uses |
| 18:19.27 | elg | whether that's mencoder, transcode, ffmpeg, whatever |
| 18:20.46 | dmdavis | cool, thanks for the info guys |
| 18:21.24 | elg | i just wish handbrake would do transcoding too, instead of just sourcing from dvds |
| 18:24.42 | tensai | dvd::rip is what I use. or mythdvd. |
| 18:27.10 | Jayce^ | handbrake on the mac, still sometimes dvd::rip on the linux box |
| 18:27.22 | dmdavis | I was curious about dvd::rip, but there were lots of dependencies, so I'm wondering if it offers me much over handbrake |
| 18:27.31 | dmdavis | before I go through the hassle of installing |
| 18:27.59 | elg | i was overly underimpressed with dvd::rip |
| 18:28.02 | elg | but it's been a long time |
| 18:28.25 | beandog | dvd::rip is okay. ogmrip is a lot simpler. I really gotta try handbrake some day. |
| 18:28.32 | tensai | I've never used handbrake so I can't comment |
| 18:28.41 | elg | I'm not against a good gui (see handbrake) but dvd::rip had one of those guis that more got in the way than helped. I'd rather do it on the cli |
| 18:28.43 | tensai | except that I'm sure it sucks if elg uses it |
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| 18:29.14 | tensai | blah blah blah |
| 18:29.21 | beandog | elg, yah |
| 18:30.37 | tensai | it's the kind of interface that was designed by coders and not by users |
| 18:40.43 | Sargun | uh |
| 18:43.27 | beandog | arent they all that way? :) |
| 19:12.53 | atoponce | s/ter/tery/ |
| 19:14.59 | elg | freudian slip? |
| 19:18.02 | atoponce | something |
| 19:22.38 | Sargun | uh |
| 19:22.41 | Sargun | no |
| 19:22.46 | Sargun | atoponce, more than your wife? |
| 19:23.02 | atoponce | eh? |
| 19:23.14 | Sargun | How much battery life would a laptop need in order to make it more lovely than a person? |
| 19:23.15 | Sargun | :-P |
| 19:23.26 | atoponce | actually, i got a funny text message yesterday: |
| 19:23.33 | elg | well people get anywhere from 18-48 hours |
| 19:23.59 | atoponce | "If Obama wins the primaries, he'll be the first black man to beat a white woman, and not go to jail." |
| 19:24.06 | Sargun | haha |
| 19:24.10 | Sargun | That's hilarious |
| 19:26.07 | ^Migs^ | HAHAHA |
| 19:28.46 | atoponce | unum has a laptop?!?! |
| 19:28.53 | unum | atoponce: of course not |
| 19:28.57 | unum | I like computers that work |
| 19:28.58 | unum | :) |
| 19:28.59 | atoponce | i was going to say |
| 19:29.11 | atoponce | wow. hell must have frozen over or something. :) |
| 19:29.20 | unum | after I get a new desktop I might get one of those eeepc's actually |
| 19:30.02 | atoponce | i couldn't work on one of those |
| 19:30.09 | atoponce | far too small |
| 19:30.18 | atoponce | i hear they're great for traveling though |
| 19:30.34 | atoponce | great for the plane |
| 19:30.41 | unum | I only want it to plug into a projector |
| 19:30.52 | unum | I have no other use for a laptop |
| 19:31.00 | unum | maybe on a plane |
| 19:31.11 | unum | and so the eeepc is a perfect fit for me |
| 19:31.31 | unum | if I had a job like your's a bigger laptop might be something I'd want |
| 19:31.45 | unum | but for my current situation a laptop is just stupid |
| 19:31.46 | Sargun | elg, Well, if I gave you a computer that weighed about 78 pounds, was 14 years old, could stay up all night with you, and would always do whatever you want to do, you'd enjoy it? :-P |
| 19:32.22 | atoponce | unum: there are times when i wish i didn't have a 15widescreen laptop |
| 19:32.29 | unum | I know a woman thats 85's 20 years old and would stay up all night with me |
| 19:33.03 | Sargun | 85's 20 year olds? |
| 19:33.05 | elg | computers do always do whatever I want them to do |
| 19:33.17 | atoponce | if not, there's always sudo |
| 19:33.30 | Sargun | If only people have sudo |
| 19:33.38 | Sargun | Well, they do, its called manipulation |
| 19:33.39 | unum | s/85's/85lbs |
| 19:33.42 | Sargun | oh.. |
| 19:33.49 | Sargun | How tall is s/he? |
| 19:33.53 | unum | 4'9" |
| 19:34.25 | Sargun | Isn't she underweight? |
| 19:34.32 | unum | nope |
| 19:34.36 | Sargun | oh, neat. |
| 19:34.58 | elg | I once knew a 4'9" person. I knelt down and was still taller |
| 19:34.58 | unum | my eleven year old niese is taller than her |
| 19:35.27 | elg | my comp, who was 6'8" and I both. we took pictures |
| 19:35.56 | Sargun | elg, How tall are you? |
| 19:36.03 | Sargun | unum, That must be odd.. |
| 19:36.06 | elg | 193cm |
| 19:36.08 | Sargun | I feel kind of bad for her |
| 19:36.20 | Sargun | elg, Do you have pictures? |
| 19:36.20 | atoponce | i had a 6'7" comp. me being 6'3", we got comments in china town all the time if we played professional basketball |
| 19:36.30 | elg | in a box somewhere |
| 19:36.50 | atoponce | "why yes. we do. let me tell you about the eternal game" |
| 19:38.29 | unum | Sargun: I was always afraid someone was going to call DFCS on me |
| 19:39.42 | Sargun | hehe |
| 19:42.35 | unum | at the movie theater the ticket woman once tried to sell me a child ticket for her |
| 19:48.48 | Sargun | haha |
| 19:48.50 | Sargun | That sucks |
| 19:49.00 | Sargun | How'd she respond? |
| 19:49.05 | Sargun | Did you take the child ticket? |
| 19:49.16 | Sargun | How many people here dislike the Fed's Internet tapping program? |
| 19:49.22 | ^Migs^ | I love it |
| 19:49.32 | ^Migs^ | I think everything should be tapped. |
| 19:49.45 | ^Migs^ | and microchips implanted in our brains |
| 19:50.03 | Sargun | ... |
| 19:51.37 | Sargun | ^Migs^, you work for the government. |
| 19:52.02 | unum | Sargun: the girl didn't here the question, but I paid for the adult ticket |
| 19:52.08 | unum | I'm honest to a fault |
| 19:52.31 | Sargun | How many people here dislike the Fed's Internet tapping program, and would be willing to pay $200 for an anti-wiretap device? |
| 19:53.04 | unum | how many would be willing to $200 to the eff? |
| 19:53.27 | atoponce | unum: i would. i'm already 1/2 there |
| 19:53.58 | tensai | Sargun: convince me that such a device would actually work |
| 19:54.48 | Sargun | $200 and then $15 an mbit |
| 19:54.51 | Sargun | $200 and then $15 an mbit/mo |
| 19:55.16 | herlo | unum, no eff for me, but I'm planning donations to changecongress.org |
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| 19:57.32 | unum | herlo: good choice as well |
| 19:58.19 | herlo | unum: yeah. Lessig is my hero |
| 19:58.45 | unum | I really like him. Did he work with obama in chicago? |
| 19:59.00 | unum | I'm sad he decided he couldn't win the house seat |
| 19:59.14 | herlo | dont thinkso, but he recommends obama |
| 19:59.29 | RedHeron | He would have been good, but his new work I'd have to agree is more important. |
| 19:59.35 | unum | ya, I didn't like obama much before I saw lessigs stuff on him |
| 19:59.48 | herlo | unum, he is not running because the person in place is changing congress |
| 19:59.56 | unum | pashdown endorsed obama as well |
| 20:00.05 | unum | herlo: that's not what he said |
| 20:00.05 | herlo | yup |
| 20:00.14 | herlo | unum, it is too |
| 20:00.28 | unum | the person who will be taking the seat instead of lessig takes money from lobbyists |
| 20:00.31 | herlo | unum, if you go to his last video he says so |
| 20:00.39 | ^Migs^ | http://www.wreckedexotics.com/special/pickup/ |
| 20:00.41 | brac | [Car Accident] |
| 20:00.59 | herlo | unum, on my treo or I could give a link |
| 20:02.11 | unum | I watched it |
| 20:02.38 | herlo | me too. he credited her for doing great work iirc |
| 20:04.39 | unum | ya she's a progressive, but she doesn't meet his change congress goals |
| 20:05.28 | herlo | well, I didnt say that she was perfect, just that he said she was doing good works :) |
| 20:05.34 | goozbach | fozzmoo: what was that alsamixer command to fix pulseaudio? |
| 20:05.47 | elg | apt-get remove pulseaudio? |
| 20:06.06 | herlo | elg: pulseaudio rocks |
| 20:07.13 | elg | why? |
| 20:07.15 | herlo | ruh roh! |
| 20:07.18 | RyanE | herlo: you look like Shaggy. |
| 20:07.28 | RyanE | or Velma. :) |
| 20:07.31 | herlo | RyanE: I do? |
| 20:07.52 | herlo | wow, im a hot nerdy girl, sweet! |
| 20:08.09 | elg | if only you could wear something other than orange dresses |
| 20:08.19 | herlo | true |
| 20:08.27 | elg | what defense do you claim for pulseaudio? |
| 20:08.28 | RyanE | You thnk Velma is HOT? Your standards are pretty low... :) |
| 20:08.33 | herlo | but I do love orange :) |
| 20:08.58 | herlo | RyanE: you havebt seen the real life movie, have u? |
| 20:09.11 | RyanE | uh, no. And no thanks. |
| 20:09.26 | RyanE | I was saying you were Velma from the original cartoons, which is the only 'official' source of Velmaness. :) |
| 20:09.42 | herlo | meh |
| 20:10.03 | ^Migs^ | you guys are nerds |
| 20:10.11 | herlo | yup |
| 20:10.19 | RyanE | ... and ... ? |
| 20:10.29 | ^Migs^ | I wasn't stating that negatively |
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| 20:10.34 | ^Migs^ | just matter-of-factly |
| 20:10.45 | herlo | about? |
| 20:10.49 | elg | pulseaudio |
| 20:10.53 | herlo | nope |
| 20:11.02 | findlay | elg: gotten any RJ9 jacks yet? |
| 20:11.09 | nick125_treo | pulseaudio :/ |
| 20:11.24 | findlay | do you think a standard crimper could crimp them? |
| 20:11.31 | herlo | why dont u guys like pulseaudio? |
| 20:11.31 | elg | findlay: no, it was mostly a thought exercise |
| 20:11.40 | elg | i have my bluetooth retro handset already |
| 20:11.46 | findlay | well fine. I'm planning on getting some today |
| 20:12.00 | elg | herlo: what possible reason could I have for liking pulseaudio? |
| 20:12.14 | findlay | elg and bluetoth? Isn't bluetooth too pricey for elg? :-) |
| 20:12.20 | herlo | it is useful |
| 20:12.34 | elg | probably, but my laptop has it and the handset was a gift :) |
| 20:12.36 | herlo | elg: what do you have agaist it? |
| 20:12.42 | findlay | shame |
| 20:13.03 | elg | I am automatically biased against the abominable sound server in all its forms |
| 20:13.10 | findlay | and I'll be packing around a more retro handset with my minimized laptop to make calls |
| 20:13.20 | elg | so unless you give me a reason why pulseaudio is even worth looking at, it sucks by default |
| 20:13.35 | herlo | elg: pulseaudio is not a sound server, it still uses alsa |
| 20:13.48 | elg | all sound servers use an underlying kernel sound system. try again |
| 20:14.18 | herlo | elg: it can let you control multiple sound sources |
| 20:14.21 | findlay | is anyone going to be in St George next weekend? |
| 20:14.32 | herlo | why? |
| 20:14.37 | elg | herlo: meaning what? |
| 20:14.54 | herlo | elg: think two outputs at different levels |
| 20:15.06 | elg | I can control xmms and mplayer without a soundserver |
| 20:15.07 | herlo | inputs too |
| 20:15.23 | ^Migs^ | wow, what are you using pulseaudio for? |
| 20:15.28 | herlo | elg: sure, but its noy a sound server. |
| 20:15.41 | elg | it is a soundserver |
| 20:15.44 | elg | how is it not a soundserver? |
| 20:15.57 | herlo | it just modifies alsa |
| 20:15.59 | elg | http://pulseaudio.org/ |
| 20:16.05 | elg | "pulseaudio is a sound server ..." |
| 20:16.25 | elg | "PulseAudio is a sound server for POSIX and Win32 systems." |
| 20:16.29 | findlay | don't speak to me of sound servers, I have a math test to study for |
| 20:16.33 | herlo | elg, fine. it might also be a sound server |
| 20:17.29 | herlo | but the only reason i like it is because I canadjust down flash and listen to the radio while watching my movw |
| 20:17.33 | herlo | movie |
| 20:17.47 | elg | i should warn you where this is headed. Everything you say pulseaudio can do I will say that JACK can do better, or is unnecessary due to modern ALSA features (like dmix). I'm willing to be proven wrong |
| 20:18.41 | herlo | im not that versed |
| 20:18.59 | elg | which is why it's only fair I warn you who you're going up against. ;-) |
| 20:19.00 | herlo | obviously |
| 20:19.23 | herlo | elg: u dont scare me. but my lack of knowledge does |
| 20:19.50 | herlo | Im just repeating stuff I've read |
| 20:19.51 | elg | that's good. i don't make a good terrorist |
| 20:20.04 | elg | sjansen, otoh |
| 20:20.10 | herlo | which is why im confused |
| 20:20.23 | herlo | sjansen scares me even less |
| 20:20.34 | herlo | I work with him. |
| 20:20.54 | elg | oh sure, demystify sjansen |
| 20:21.00 | herlo | it is easy to challenge him and make him nervous |
| 20:21.30 | herlo | elg: you only get that privilege by working with him methinks |
| 20:24.29 | elg | esd and artsd are historical, ugly, but mostly were needed workarounds. the effort put into pulseaudio should have been done through jack instead. pulseaudio has no excuse |
| 20:26.07 | RyanE | herlo doesn't know jack about jack. |
| 20:27.54 | Supaplex | careful, you might pull a funny bone |
| 20:31.27 | findlay | ouch, my funny bone |
| 20:32.17 | findlay | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:32.44 | findlay | findlay: do this or findlay: do that, and have it done before I'm finished with lunch |
| 20:32.55 | findlay | "sure thing" |
| 20:33.52 | findlay | ~boss herlo |
| 20:38.56 | Sargun | do they call you findlay? |
| 20:38.59 | Sargun | :-P |
| 20:46.51 | findlay | only if they call you Sargun |
| 20:47.02 | Sargun | They happen to |
| 20:47.19 | findlay | lets unite against all of thems and replace them with very small shell scripts! |
| 20:47.52 | Sargun | why not just use C? |
| 20:48.03 | findlay | because |
| 20:48.47 | tensai | excellent answer! |
| 20:49.23 | findlay | yay! |
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| 20:55.49 | levi | Yay, I'm talking to my new board. |
| 20:56.44 | findlay | I've seen a board before |
| 20:56.58 | findlay | I've even sawn a few in my time |
| 20:56.58 | levi | I have a scope on my desk now, too. |
| 20:57.11 | findlay | never talked to them before, thugh |
| 20:57.16 | findlay | though |
| 20:57.32 | levi | I'm talking to the bootloader via RS232. |
| 21:08.47 | findlay | ~talk |
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| 21:12.24 | Supaplex | humm... 5000 messages is more than I expected in my PAUSE pop3 account. |
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| 21:38.17 | tensai | mmm. fresh basil. |
| 21:40.23 | ^Migs^ | http://www.c64web.com |
| 21:40.31 | brac | [c64web] |
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| 21:48.33 | Tene | 2 hours until I can board my flight. |
| 21:49.05 | Sargun | ok |
| 21:49.17 | beandog | where you going |
| 21:49.22 | Tene | SLC |
| 21:49.53 | beandog | \o/ |
| 21:50.01 | beandog | the mother country |
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| 21:55.26 | Sargun | SLC! |
| 21:55.30 | Sargun | Represent |
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| 22:03.07 | ^Migs^ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D99NHb6B03s |
| 22:04.05 | beandog | my crap |
| 22:04.20 | tensai | beandog: not in here please |
| 22:04.29 | beandog | ~poo tensai |
| 22:04.30 | ibot | ACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at tensai |
| 22:05.38 | rsimpkins | Holy cow: Chicago Links School Cameras to Police - http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-daley-cameras-07mar07,1,1323551.story |
| 22:05.55 | rsimpkins | I can't believe they are getting away with it. |
| 22:06.42 | beandog | just how many emergencies in school do they even have |
| 22:06.45 | beandog | thats the scary party. |
| 22:06.49 | beandog | er, part. |
| 22:07.38 | rsimpkins | Yes, please, take my kids, and have the police monitor their every move. |
| 22:08.07 | Sargun | Really? |
| 22:08.08 | rsimpkins | I'd like my kids to grow up under the protection of police cameras, because when they get older they will be more confortable being monitored. |
| 22:08.27 | Sargun | rsimpkins, Put them into private school. |
| 22:08.49 | rsimpkins | But, what if there is a shooting? The police won't have cameras watching them get blown to pieces! |
| 22:09.05 | Sargun | private school has cameras |
| 22:09.16 | Sargun | then you have the luxury of a replay of their death |
| 22:09.36 | rsimpkins | Well, some do - but connecting them to the police is a brilliant idea. We all know all high schoolers are really sub-criminals any way. |
| 22:09.50 | rsimpkins | School is a prison, now it's official. |
| 22:10.23 | ^Migs^ | I jokingly put a picture of a prison on one of our schools pages |
| 22:11.49 | Sargun | and? |
| 22:12.38 | rsimpkins | Sargun: Our cameras our watching you. |
| 22:13.05 | Sargun | do your cameras think I'm attractive? |
| 22:13.20 | rsimpkins | Please stand against the wall and prepared to be searched by our police robot. |
| 22:13.30 | rsimpkins | This is a random search for your protection. |
| 22:13.43 | rsimpkins | Don't mind the shotgun. |
| 22:13.54 | Sargun | ooh |
| 22:13.57 | nick125 | Oh alright! |
| 22:13.57 | Sargun | that feels funny |
| 22:14.35 | rsimpkins | Well, you COULD be a terrorist. So we'll have to pull your phone records, e-mail, and web site logs for the last year and see. |
| 22:15.00 | rsimpkins | Hopefully you pass, if not, we get to lock you up for a couple years and not charge you with anything, while making the evidence secret. |
| 22:16.21 | rsimpkins | And we are taking your gun away from you. Even though you purchased it legally, it doesn't have microstamp technology so it is now illegal. |
| 22:16.35 | rsimpkins | And we'll need a DNA sample to put in our database. |
| 22:16.36 | ^Migs^ | ~quote scox |
| 22:16.44 | rsimpkins | Apathy is great. |
| 22:16.57 | ^Migs^ | I wonder if it'll be worth it to buy now. That's some stock I can actually afford. |
| 22:17.49 | rsimpkins | Is SCO traded on any of the penny exchnages? |
| 22:18.12 | thaddeusq | ~quote scoxq.pk |
| 22:18.18 | rsimpkins | Ahh.SCOXQ.PK |
| 22:18.22 | rsimpkins | thaddeusq: beat me. |
| 22:18.33 | thaddeusq | ~beat rsimpkins |
| 22:18.34 | ibot | ACTION relentlessly beats rsimpkins over the head with a Louisville Slugger |
| 22:18.45 | rsimpkins | I'm surprised with the $100M that people aren't investing. |
| 22:19.54 | nick125 | Who'd want to invest in a company who has already sinked once? |
| 22:20.35 | tensai | nick125: third time's the charm |
| 22:21.23 | ^Migs^ | http://www.lighterside.com/product/games-toys/plush+%26+dolls/animated+hillary+clinton+figure.do |
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| 22:52.00 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.15 | Tene | oh? |
| 22:53.03 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.19 | beandog | it does make things easier that way. |
| 22:53.22 | beandog | oh, and bring cookies. |
| 22:55.01 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.36 | dmdavis | I'm looking forward to being a belligerent grad student :) |
| 22:55.54 | dmdavis | I'm hoping to be the cause of many an ulcer for my TAs |
| 22:56.40 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.58 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:57.45 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:58.28 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:58.45 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.07 | tensai | change up the question. ask "what can I help you with?". |
| 22:59.22 | tensai | or "why are you being so belligerent?" |
| 23:00.17 | elg | the real scary thing is he used to be a lotus notes developer |
| 23:00.33 | elg | as in he developed with lotus notes |
| 23:00.43 | tensai | run away |
| 23:02.13 | rsimpkins | What is CS 167? |
| 23:02.30 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:02.37 | beandog | rsimpkins, Beginning VB 6 |
| 23:02.49 | elg | C programming |
| 23:02.59 | elg | for people who have never programmed |
| 23:03.13 | rsimpkins | My C skills are horrid - what's an example lab? |
| 23:03.38 | elg | http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~hfugal/spring08/cs167/ |
| 23:04.13 | rsimpkins | "Bask in the green glow, poke around, explore." - so far so good. :) |
| 23:04.32 | elg | the suse boxes here have default green backgrounds :) |
| 23:04.47 | elg | you log in and you're sure you just fell into a pool of algae |
| 23:05.03 | rsimpkins | What is a lab this guy says is too hard? |
| 23:05.18 | elg | lab6 was the one today |
| 23:06.12 | elg | write a function to calculate (hairy algebra), call your function with different parameters in a loop and print the answers |
| 23:06.38 | elg | i handhold just about everyone through the shell/gnuplot stuff, and I don't really expect anything different |
| 23:07.01 | elg | and I help people in lab to figure out how to approach the problem... pseudocode on the board etc. |
| 23:07.05 | dmdavis | ./lab6 > dat |
| 23:07.07 | dmdavis | gnuplot lab6.gp |
| 23:07.10 | dmdavis | that seems wrong |
| 23:07.37 | dmdavis | so you know. :) they should get it, but the first line should be "./lab6 > lab6.gp" |
| 23:07.37 | elg | how? |
| 23:07.55 | elg | no, gnuplot isn't that convenient |
| 23:07.56 | dmdavis | you're dumping out to dat, but gnuplot is reading lab6.gp |
| 23:08.01 | elg | or it would just be ./lab6 | gnuplot |
| 23:08.07 | dmdavis | ah, OK |
| 23:08.17 | dmdavis | oh, I see |
| 23:08.19 | rsimpkins | That part makes sense to me. |
| 23:08.25 | elg | lab6.gp is "plot 'dat' using 1:2, 'dat' using 1:3, 'dat' using 1:4\npause -1 'Hit return to continue'" |
| 23:08.36 | dmdavis | yep, just saw that. sorry, was skimming |
| 23:09.40 | elg | I think I'll make the next lab a feelgood lab |
| 23:09.44 | elg | no new ground |
| 23:09.57 | rsimpkins | My problem is math. If it's more complex than fourth grade math - I'm done. |
| 23:10.30 | macnewbold | ouch |
| 23:10.40 | rsimpkins | I'm really bad at math. :) |
| 23:11.22 | elg | college algebra is the one prereq for the class :) |
| 23:12.08 | elg | mostly because it's really hard to come up with meaningful labs that don't involve math before you cover enough ground to manipulate strings |
| 23:12.18 | rsimpkins | So did this guy fail/almost fail college algebra then? |
| 23:13.05 | levi | No, but he hasn't taken it in a billion years. ;) |
| 23:13.08 | elg | well his complaint was only partially about the math. actually translating that expression into C is one thing people didn't need help with |
| 23:13.18 | elg | we've done similar things in previous labs |
| 23:13.40 | elg | i think he was scared of the math though, but again how do you get to be graduating with a masters in CS without math? |
| 23:13.47 | levi | So, I get to give a demo of the stuff I've been working on to the CEO of Harman International on Monday. |
| 23:13.48 | elg | esp if you can't code |
| 23:14.02 | levi | elg: Apparently the same way you get to do it without being able to write code. |
| 23:14.11 | elg | no, he's mostly completely clueless about how to get from a problem description to pseudocode to code |
| 23:14.14 | mrpull- | levi: ooohh... sounds like fun. |
| 23:14.17 | levi | But if you can't do math OR write code, what CS-related thing CAN you do? |
| 23:14.36 | elg | which I of course am willing to walk him through, but his argument is that it's asking too much |
| 23:14.37 | mrpull- | levi: i've met some of the high brass (maybe a CIO?) from HI |
| 23:14.47 | mrpull- | (maybe a CFO too) |
| 23:14.56 | levi | mrpull-: How come? |
| 23:20.15 | elg | so what do I do with all this gravel in my back yard? |
| 23:20.30 | mrpull- | levi: i guess you aren't getting my PM's |
| 23:20.53 | mrpull- | (not identified?) |
| 23:21.10 | levi | mrpull-: I am, I was just doing something in another window. |
| 23:21.41 | fozzmoo | 'Keep a hammer in your closet, tie your cell phone around your neck, and be in shape.' |
| 23:21.46 | mrpull- | doh... nm. i misread the info from nickserv |
| 23:23.13 | levi | It turns out I was also not identified, but that didn't keep me from getting the messages. :) |
| 23:24.05 | mrpull- | doh. i guess i had that backward too. |
| 23:27.33 | tensai | mrpull-: tired from waking up early or from flapping your arms? |
| 23:28.04 | mrpull- | badump chink |
| 23:44.12 | tensai | so who's ready for a weekend? |
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| 23:51.41 | sargun-palm | heya guys |
| 23:52.15 | nick125 | sargun-palm: hiya |
| 23:52.45 | sargun-palm | nick125: what happened to your phone? |
| 23:53.15 | nick125 | sargun-palm: I think it was your end that hung up, and I wasn't able to answer when you called back. |
| 23:53.28 | sargun-palm | oh. ok.. |
| 23:53.35 | sargun-palm | yeah, I know my end died |
| 23:53.52 | sargun-palm | crappy sprint netrot. |
| 23:53.55 | sargun-palm | netrott |
| 23:54.01 | nick125 | haha |
| 23:54.56 | sargun-palm | I really wonder if it is faster to compare two short ints, or two ints inside each other... |
| 23:55.10 | sargun-palm | er, two ints seperately. |
| 23:55.18 | sargun-palm | you should benchmark it. |
| 23:55.26 | nick125 | lol |
| 23:55.43 | nick125 | Hmm....MobiTV said they wern't going to shutdown the Howardforums sight! |
| 23:55.46 | sargun-palm | if (a==b) and (b==c) |
| 23:56.12 | sargun-palm | haha. what exactly was the feed on howard forums? |
| 23:56.34 | nick125 | A link to MobiTV's feed was on howardforums, as well as instructions. |
| 23:56.50 | sargun-palm | I saw that, just wondering what it is... |
| 23:57.05 | nick125 | So, MobiTV said that they were going to take down the Howardforums sight, until the President/CEO went and said they wern't going to take their sight down. |
| 23:57.23 | sargun-palm | oh.. |
| 23:57.31 | sargun-palm | site? |
| 23:57.37 | sargun-palm | not sight... |
| 23:57.58 | nick125 | sargun-palm: I'm using their CEO/President's spelling |
| 23:58.14 | sargun-palm | oh... seriously? |
| 23:58.20 | nick125 | yup |
| 23:58.28 | sargun-palm | there is a guy in my class named 'goldy' |
| 23:58.50 | nick125 | " Howard, great catching up today. Again, we're big fans of the sight and our intention was never to bring your entire sight down or to "censor the Internet" like we're being accused. The irony is that is quite the opposite type of company we are and as one of the leaders in new media, we couldn't be more supportive of the rights of sights like yours." |
| 23:58.56 | sargun-palm | you should send him a dictionary' |
