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| 01:54.20 | elg | so my computer is all of a sudden not finding this usb drive partition by its label |
| 01:54.35 | elg | LABEL=Shadowfax/media/shadowfaxhfsplususer,rw,exec,umask=002,gid=290 0 |
| 01:54.57 | elg | there are two partitions on this drive, actually, and the other partition (which is vfat) mounts by its label just fien |
| 01:55.06 | elg | and it mounts manually (/dev/sdb1 right now) just fine |
| 01:55.18 | elg | and on osx it seems to have that label |
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| 03:50.48 | Tene | Okay, what is this good for: http://ozmm.org/posts/try.html ? |
| 03:50.55 | brac | [try() — ones zeros majors and minors] |
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| 05:13.35 | Sargun | I love -funroll-loops |
| 05:16.01 | rsimpkins | I need sushi. |
| 05:16.08 | rsimpkins | I require it. |
| 05:16.22 | rsimpkins | Happy Sumo - open back up just for me. Thank you. :) |
| 05:26.30 | levi | Good luck with that. :) |
| 05:26.56 | levi | Yay, I think my semantic analysis in my compiler is finished. |
| 05:29.37 | Sargun | Don't you love C++ :-P |
| 05:29.58 | levi | No, but I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. |
| 05:30.53 | Sargun | I'm just saying, that C++ is an annoying language |
| 05:30.59 | Sargun | C > C++; |
| 05:31.12 | Sargun | For most things at least. |
| 05:32.03 | levi | I'm not sure I feel the same way. |
| 05:32.19 | levi | It would probably depend on whose C++ code I was reading. |
| 05:32.48 | levi | And if I was writing my own, it would certainly be better than C, because I could use the sane features without the insane ones. |
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| 05:36.23 | trip0 | anyone know how I can un-rm a dir? |
| 05:36.47 | nick125 | trip0: You don't. |
| 05:36.53 | trip0 | nooooooo |
| 05:37.12 | trip0 | i'll be crying myself to sleep tonight |
| 05:37.26 | nick125 | trip0: If you shut down the machine immediately, image the drive, and try some recovery tools, you might get some of it back. |
| 05:38.09 | levi | You shouldn't rm directories you want to keep. |
| 05:38.17 | trip0 | tell me about it |
| 05:38.30 | rsimpkins | trip0: And you don't have backups? |
| 05:38.33 | trip0 | it wasn't me, it was falcon "evil" repository manager |
| 05:38.47 | trip0 | rsimpkins: i think I do, lemme check.. :D |
| 05:42.02 | findlay | hello |
| 05:42.13 | findlay | man, I |
| 05:42.19 | findlay | 'm so awful |
| 05:43.12 | trip0 | could be worse findlay: you could have just deleted all the software you ever created |
| 05:43.16 | findlay | I spend all this time practicing and I finally get into the orchestra I always wanted to play in and it's all I can do to keep up |
| 05:44.23 | findlay | and then I come home and my roomate has an orchestra shoved into my living room rehearsing something or other |
| 05:44.34 | findlay | at 11:45 PM |
| 05:45.25 | trip0 | yay, i have a backup from 03-05-08 |
| 05:47.47 | nick125 | trip0: You could just restore your code from your remote git repo..you do have a remote git repo, right? |
| 05:48.03 | trip0 | lol |
| 05:48.33 | trip0 | the code is still in tact in a svn repo offsite (sf.net) but the binary .debs are all gone :( |
| 05:57.15 | Sargun | Is there anything faster than bcmp |
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| 06:00.28 | trip0 | backups ftw |
| 06:12.34 | Sargun | God, Ira Glass is so awesome. |
| 06:19.55 | fozzmoo | God is awesome. Dunno anything about Ira Glass. |
| 06:20.49 | Tene | Eh, I've never been too fond of that God fellow. |
| 06:21.00 | Tene | Never met Ira Glass either, though. |
| 06:24.01 | fozzmoo | Tene: Bass Communion. |
| 06:24.05 | fozzmoo | I highly recommend it. |
| 06:36.32 | findlay | ~recommend it |
| 06:36.45 | findlay | -chat about stuff |
| 06:36.46 | brac | stuff was never meant to ask. Mecworks has an eeep c |
| 06:47.37 | findlay | ~say -chat ~say -chat |
| 06:47.38 | ibot | -chat ~say -chat |
| 06:47.41 | brac | ~say -chat ~say -chat ~say -rlart |
| 06:47.42 | ibot | -chat ~say -chat ~say -rlart |
| 06:47.43 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
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| 10:57.22 | sn00p- | hello anybody awake? |
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| 13:09.35 | goozbach | what's the command which lets you watch keycodes as you press them in X? |
| 13:12.38 | Sargun | xev |
| 13:13.24 | Sargun | ~katana brac |
| 13:33.57 | Sargun | goozbach, xev |
| 13:33.58 | Sargun | Bye world! |
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| 15:14.06 | ^Migs^ | https://launchpad.net/jubuntu |
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| 15:25.15 | herlo | what? another distro from Ubuntu? |
| 15:26.36 | elg | what is it? |
| 15:26.40 | undertakingyou | herlo: there are tons of them. |
| 15:31.11 | ^Migs^ | Jubuntu: Ubuntu for Jews |
| 15:31.44 | herlo | undertakingyou: I know |
| 15:32.24 | ^Migs^ | I think it's a joke |
| 15:32.41 | undertakingyou | ^Migs^: I hope that is a joke |
| 15:39.41 | ^Migs^ | OR ELSE |
| 15:39.46 | ^Migs^ | http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/ie/ie8/readiness/Install.htm |
| 15:45.21 | ^Migs^ | hmm, Bill Gates is no longer the richest man in the world |
| 15:45.30 | ^Migs^ | he's been bumped down to #2. Now it's Warren Buffet. |
| 15:45.45 | elg | the inventor of buffet-style diners? |
| 15:46.04 | ^Migs^ | that's the one |
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| 16:12.22 | vontrapp | what about family-style dinner? that's just as fun |
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| 16:22.32 | tensai | ~feed vontrapp |
| 16:22.33 | ibot | ACTION offers vontrapp some herring |
| 16:23.35 | goozbach | perl geeks, what's the best way of "slurping" STDIN? |
| 16:24.32 | elg | slurping? |
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| 16:25.02 | goozbach | eg, reading all of standard in at once |
| 16:25.06 | goozbach | as opposed to: |
| 16:25.20 | goozbach | my $foo = <>; |
| 16:25.30 | goozbach | which doesn't seem to work properly |
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| 16:26.59 | Lakshmi | i hate the interwebs. |
| 16:27.41 | goozbach | the intertubes are better |
| 16:29.26 | herlo | they are? |
| 16:29.29 | elg | -seen beandog |
| 16:29.30 | brac | beandog was last seen 14 hours, 48 minutes and 23 seconds ago, quitting IRC ("Leaving") |
| 16:29.31 | herlo | were they sick? |
| 16:30.16 | Lakshmi | goozbach interwebs or tubes they still are :( |
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| 16:36.48 | tensai | goozbach: "$foo = <>" will just read a single line |
| 16:37.14 | tensai | goozbach: you can read an array. "@foo = <>" will read each line of stdin to @foo. |
| 16:37.15 | goozbach | tensai: I know |
| 16:37.32 | goozbach | I want to get the entirety of STDIN to a single var in perl |
| 16:37.37 | goozbach | eg I want to do this: |
| 16:37.53 | tensai | @foo = <>; $foo = join(//, @foo); |
| 16:37.54 | goozbach | cat foo.markdown | md2mw.pl |
| 16:37.56 | elg | In ruby you'd do foo = $stdin.read |
| 16:38.22 | elg | so maybe there's a read function for streams like stdin in perl |
| 16:38.34 | tensai | there is a read() function |
| 16:38.36 | goozbach | and have a line in md2mw.pl which stores stdin as a single scalar |
| 16:39.26 | tensai | read(STDIN, $foo, 10000) |
| 16:39.59 | tensai | you have to pass it a length of how many bytes to read |
| 16:40.05 | elg | so I have some vid from my camcorder that I want to archive |
| 16:40.15 | elg | tensai: well isn't that completely useless? |
| 16:40.20 | elg | what if you tell it 0? |
| 16:40.27 | elg | or -1 or some other thing that says read it all? |
| 16:40.44 | tensai | elg: if you ask it to read 0 bytes, it probably will |
| 16:44.28 | elg | since DV is rather huge, I'm going to transcode to h.264. I'm wondering if for a given bitrate it is better to keep the original size or shrink it down |
| 16:44.48 | elg | width/height |
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| 16:49.24 | jnbek | tensai, what about using length(<STDIN>) ? |
| 16:51.30 | tensai | jnbek: length(<STDIN>) will read the length of a single line read from stdin. it's the same as $foo = <STDIN>; length($foo); |
| 16:52.18 | goozbach | reading 0 bytes does exactly that, ZERO bytes |
| 16:52.28 | jnbek | hmm, right |
| 16:53.13 | goozbach | slurp is what I want, but I want to slurp STDIN. |
| 16:54.28 | goozbach | read the docs silly goozbach |
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| 16:58.22 | vontrapp | is there a way in gpg to move a subset of keys from one keyring to another? |
| 17:02.33 | goozbach | here's the answer to my question: |
| 17:02.34 | goozbach | use File::Slurp qw( slurp ) ; |
| 17:02.34 | goozbach | my $filename = slurp ( \*STDIN ) || die "cannot read STDIN $!\n"; |
| 17:03.27 | Jayce^ | silly goozbach, STDIN is just another filehandle |
| 17:04.36 | goozbach | duh |
| 17:05.07 | goozbach | Jayce^: it's only noon, and I've only had 2 Mt Dews yet |
| 17:05.18 | goozbach | besides, I'm a sys admin, not a programmer |
| 17:05.31 | goozbach | I don't keep my perl muscle in shape enough |
| 17:06.34 | goozbach | s/shape enough/good enough shape/ |
| 17:39.50 | elg | beandog: ping |
| 17:41.44 | beandog | elg, pong |
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| 17:44.11 | elg | i've got camcorder video 720x480 in DV format. i want to compress with h.264 for archival. I'm wondering if it will be best for a given bitrate to stay at the original resolution, or shrink it down. shrunk would be higher quality (as far as artifacts etc. go), but would be scaled up for display on a TV. big would involve no scaling, but maybe would have more artifacts |
| 17:44.15 | elg | any insights? |
| 17:46.10 | mrpull-lt | watching 480i content on a newer TV is ugly and painful... i wouldn't downscale the resolution |
| 17:49.31 | unum | so what the best way to check and see if a process is running from a script |
| 17:49.46 | fozzmoo | pgrep? |
| 17:50.01 | elg | watch out for pgrep since it can sometimes see itself |
| 17:50.02 | unum | oh crap I just realized I have to use csh |
| 17:50.36 | herlo | unum: its required? |
| 17:51.01 | unum | herlo: we have an a proprietary program that will only run from csh |
| 17:51.40 | unum | I guess I could switch to csh |
| 17:51.43 | beandog | elg, uh |
| 17:52.15 | beandog | I wouldnt downscale the res either. |
| 17:52.22 | beandog | Youll get pretty small if you just use a low bitrate |
| 17:52.40 | elg | ok, cool |
| 17:54.05 | elg | btw, is there Really Cool video editing software in linux? |
| 17:54.16 | herlo | unum: that sux0rz |
| 17:54.19 | elg | I don't need Really Neat Features |
| 17:54.44 | herlo | but there are worse shells (dash) |
| 17:54.52 | elg | but splicing these DV files together, trimming out boring stuff, and maybe adding a few titles here and there, with minimal gratuitous transcoding |
| 17:55.43 | beandog | elg, avidemux2 will do what you want |
| 17:56.18 | pashdown | anyone know of a chan where i can get the iphone sdk scoop without having to use my web browser and reload button? |
| 17:57.16 | pashdown | elg, you know that your DV format is uncompressed and compression will introduce artifacts into your original video? |
| 17:57.32 | elg | yes, I'm making a tradeoff there |
| 17:57.38 | goozbach | unum: ps -ef | grep [p]rocess_name |
| 17:57.44 | pashdown | why make a tradeoff? storage is cheap. |
| 17:57.56 | goozbach | put the first char in square brackets and it won't find itself |
| 17:57.57 | elg | not as cheap as me |
| 17:58.01 | pashdown | heh |
| 17:58.03 | Jayce^ | pashdown, usually there is a leaks channel.. |
| 17:58.13 | pashdown | any idea where? |
| 17:58.59 | elg | if I were dealing with hi-def content, I might care more |
| 17:59.53 | elg | but this is camcorder |
| 18:00.09 | unum | where do you send invites from grand central now? |
| 18:00.16 | pashdown | i would argue the reverse, lo-def is going to have more apparent artifacts |
| 18:02.22 | Jayce^ | pashdown, macrumors.com links to a few, they normally have a live feed, but not on this one |
| 18:03.21 | pashdown | looks like ##iphone is the ticket |
| 18:03.34 | mrpull-lt | umum: isn't grandcentral open now? (no invites needed) |
| 18:04.44 | mrpull-lt | elg: watching the compressed (mpeg2) standard def programs that directv delivers is ugly on a 1080p LCD |
| 18:04.51 | unum | it won't let you join right away, just reserve a number |
| 18:05.09 | mrpull-lt | unum: ahh, i misread the story i saw the other day |
| 18:05.51 | elg | and 480i uncompressed isn't? |
| 18:07.22 | mrpull-lt | 480p dvds look better, but they aren't compressed as much |
| 18:21.12 | elg | well on my laptop screen I'm hard-pressed to see the difference between the original DV and 1500 kbit/s H.264. The former is about 460M for 2:15, the latter is about 30M |
| 18:23.19 | mrpull-lt | same resolution? |
| 18:23.53 | mrpull-lt | i'm not arguing against compression, just against resizing it to a smaller resolution |
| 18:27.49 | elg | yeah, same resolution |
| 18:28.20 | elg | i did a test at small resolution (240p) and it looked terrible when scaled up |
| 18:28.39 | elg | even though it was at 1500 kbit/s too, so that answers my first question. at least for extreme shrinkage |
| 18:28.39 | mrpull-lt | good. you are convinced then! |
| 18:28.51 | mrpull-lt | shinkage is an ugly sight :) |
| 18:40.12 | beandog | As long as you get a good codec, you wont have artifacts. |
| 18:40.21 | beandog | and use the right coding options, etc. |
| 18:40.30 | beandog | That is, you wont have any *new* artifacts. |
| 18:45.13 | elg | any specific recommendations? |
| 18:45.13 | sargun_screen | Meh, this is such a boring meeting :-( |
| 18:46.01 | sargun_screen | Stupid customers... |
| 18:46.13 | beandog | elg, not really. use x264. |
| 18:47.13 | sargun_screen | Try at 1280p |
| 18:54.43 | findlay | ~bore sargun_screen |
| 18:54.44 | ibot | "sargun_screen, here we are in the sausage factory; the sausages rest on the smoking racks before being cured..." |
| 18:54.52 | findlay | ~entertain sargun_screen |
| 18:54.53 | ibot | ACTION shows sargun_screen a magic trick while scuba diving |
| 18:55.00 | sargun_screen | findlay: thank you. |
| 18:55.03 | findlay | yay |
| 18:55.42 | sargun_screen | I seriously heard: "So, how did you do that?" Customer: "Because I'm brilliant muwhaha" |
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| 19:23.28 | ^Migs^ | http://www.lastappetite.com/french-fry-coated-hotdog |
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| 19:46.54 | pr0le | sargun_screen: IOW, sheer luck (not brilliance) |
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| 20:22.02 | bonez44 | does OO have a channel on freenode? |
| 20:23.11 | nick125 | bonez44: I don't believe so |
| 20:23.29 | nick125 | Actually... |
| 20:23.33 | nick125 | try #openoffice.org |
| 20:23.44 | bonez44 | ok... |
| 20:24.05 | unum | they all join at one in the morning an kick you out if you're not active |
| 20:24.36 | nick125 | unum: Don't joke about that, I know of some channels that do stuff like that. |
| 20:24.49 | bonez44 | well, I opened both #debian-oo and #openoffice.org |
| 20:24.56 | bonez44 | the latter looks busier |
| 20:25.20 | bonez44 | hard for me to imagine such a channel isn't busier.... |
| 20:27.16 | bonez44 | I need to create a flyer, for a workshop at my office....should I use oo writer, or something else? |
| 20:27.39 | bonez44 | I want to have it personalize, the recipients..by putting their names on the salutation .. |
| 20:27.41 | unum | nick125: I'm not kidding there's an ooo associated channel that did that to me three times |
| 20:27.47 | unum | it may have been odf |
| 20:28.11 | nick125 | unum: Kicking idlers is a really stupid idea |
| 20:28.16 | bonez44 | some of them are populated by Err O. Gynt...... |
| 20:29.27 | bonez44 | I just want to do a two page, front and back... newsletter...with a few graphics....but I want to personalize it .. from a database of recipient names..... |
| 20:31.31 | nick125 | bonez44: Isn't there some kind of mailing list function? |
| 20:31.44 | nick125 | Too bad I don't have oo.o installed on here or I'd give you a hand. |
| 20:32.35 | bonez44 | mail merge wizard... |
| 20:32.53 | bonez44 | I'll hack through it...I guess I just need a few miles with oo to get the hang of it |
| 20:33.12 | nick125 | I think that might be it...if I were you, I'd try it on a demo file first, so you don't wreck your newsletter |
| 20:35.08 | bonez44 | a demo? I have no demo.... |
| 20:35.13 | bonez44 | oh, demo the mailing list.. ok |
| 20:35.32 | nick125 | Yeah..make a quick test file |
| 20:37.15 | sargun_screen | nick125: Add one more to that rejection number :-) |
| 20:38.07 | nick125 | sargun_screen: ... |
| 20:46.01 | ^Migs^ | what's a good strategy game? |
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| 20:59.05 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:59.11 | sjansen | That is all. |
| 20:59.17 | Tene | sjansen: Since when? |
| 21:02.05 | beandog | I'm still trying to get people to flush |
| 21:02.59 | beandog | Theres nothing like some poop floaties to ruin your day visually. |
| 21:06.56 | tensai | beandog: I have that problem with my 5yo |
| 21:06.56 | Supaplex | no sh^H^Hduh ;) |
| 21:15.31 | beandog | Ooh |
| 21:15.33 | beandog | I have a new toy to play with. |
| 21:15.41 | beandog | less /usr/src/linux/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt |
| 21:16.06 | nick125 | lol |
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| 21:18.09 | sjansen | http://changelog.complete.org/posts/698-If-Version-Control-Systems-were-Airlines.html |
| 21:18.53 | sjansen | "Subversion airlines thrives on the concept that "photocopying is cheap". You are encouraged to make photocopies of your ticket, or to photocopy your photo ID, and give copies of each to as many people as you can. At checkin time at the gate, if more than one person arrives with a copy of the same ticket, they are ushered into the "merging room" and each person is given a brick. The door is closed, something magical occurs, and the one pers |
| 21:18.53 | sjansen | on that emerges still able to walk is allowed to board the plane." |
| 21:19.18 | nick125 | o.0 |
| 21:32.52 | ^Migs^ | looks like I'm going to Disney on Ice: Princess Wishes next week. Can you hear my excitement? |
| 21:33.16 | herlo | ^Migs^: you're daughter will love you for it though |
| 21:33.31 | ^Migs^ | daughters |
| 21:34.01 | herlo | ^Migs^: okay |
| 21:37.16 | RyanE | ^Migs^: been there, done that. |
| 21:58.11 | Sargun | nick125, change your freaking away |
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| 22:09.29 | Supaplex | apple, your x11 clipboard... SUCKS. kthx. |
| 22:13.12 | mrpull-lt | the iPhone having exchange activesync is awesome |
| 22:13.45 | mrpull-lt | give it gps and 3g and i'll buy it |
| 22:14.02 | Jayce^ | mrpull-lt, 3g in June supposedly :/ |
| 22:14.43 | ^Migs^ | http://www.boingboing.net/2008/03/05/man-creates-vigilant.html |
| 22:16.56 | mrpull-lt | gps? |
| 22:17.35 | mrpull-lt | i'm actually quite happy with my ATT Tilt. I may buy an ipod touch to scratch my apple itch. |
| 22:20.32 | Supaplex | buhuhaha. comcast can eat my ssh -o ServerAliveInterval=120 |
| 22:46.13 | mrpull-lt | hey... i thought this busty girl on the pirate bay's advertisement was from Salt Lake... now she is from Raleigh? WTF? ;-) |
| 22:46.42 | nearn | dont play with staplers. |
| 22:46.48 | nearn | what ever you do. |
| 22:48.07 | Tene | Heh. |
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| 23:13.03 | findlay | ~lart debian for not having default unicode support |
| 23:13.03 | ibot | takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays debian in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed for not having default unicode support |
| 23:16.53 | unum | aah fedora how do I hate you, let me count they ways |
| 23:17.07 | unum | there's once for not having jnettop in your default packages |
| 23:17.21 | unum | there's a second for calling apache httpd |
| 23:17.46 | unum | there's a third for not having dselect |
| 23:18.11 | unum | and fourth for not including enough documentation with so many of your packages |
| 23:18.14 | tensai | dselect. run for the hills! |
| 23:19.16 | nick125 | unum: It's probably not a good idea to announce your plans in public. |
| 23:20.37 | unum | nick125: that's true |
| 23:20.56 | unum | especially win the victim connects to the same server and atleast one of the same channels |
| 23:21.06 | nick125 | ... |
| 23:21.27 | findlay | ~victimize unum |
| 23:22.46 | unum | s/win/when |
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| 23:26.17 | unum | there's a fifth for not being able to run a program after I install it |
| 23:26.37 | nick125 | unum: You just aren't having good luck today, are you? |
| 23:28.17 | unum | I never have good luck with fedora |
| 23:28.28 | nick125 | s/today// |
| 23:28.39 | unum | it's a huge pain most of the time when I want to install anything |
| 23:33.27 | unum | aaah I had to install another package that yum didn't suggest |
| 23:34.11 | Tene | unum: what packages don't have enough documentation? |
| 23:34.21 | Tene | unum: "not being able to run a program after you install it"? |
| 23:34.41 | unum | I installed wireshark and it wouldn't run |
| 23:34.50 | unum | turns out I also had to install wireshark-gnome |
| 23:35.14 | unum | I've yet to see any fedora packages with fedora specific documentation |
| 23:35.23 | Tene | Yeah, the graphic version and the text version are different packages. |
| 23:35.27 | unum | which makes it a pain to figure out where they put files sometimes |
| 23:35.40 | Tene | unum: rpm -ql doesn't have what you want? |
| 23:35.44 | unum | it should have suggested to me to install the packages |
| 23:36.24 | unum | but there's other info that should be in the docs that aren't |
| 23:36.33 | unum | I can't think of any particular packages right now |
| 23:36.42 | unum | I'll tell you next time I need the docs |
| 23:36.53 | Tene | I haven't had any trouble with the docs in fedora. I'm interested in hearing what problems you run into. |
| 23:36.55 | unum | what I really want is jnettop |
| 23:37.45 | unum | ah it's called nettop |
| 23:38.18 | unum | missing dependencies? |
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| 23:38.27 | Tene | hm? |
| 23:39.04 | unum | oh I have the wrong library version |
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