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| 00:23.30 | roving_prole | Afternoon, all. I have some switches with only a web interface at a remote location, but I have ssh access to a linux server at the site. How can I get to the web interfaces of the switches (besides opening ports temporarily on the router)? |
| 00:26.54 | vontrapp | roving_prole: ssh -R 8080:<address of switch>:80 <linux box here> |
| 00:27.05 | vontrapp | then go to linuxbox:8080 |
| 00:28.04 | roving_prole | cool, let me try that |
| 00:31.06 | roving_prole | hmm, that didn't work... it just timed out... |
| 00:31.21 | roving_prole | the switch webpage taht is |
| 00:31.31 | roving_prole | I successfully made the ssh tunnel |
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| 00:34.08 | vontrapp | roving_prole: did you use the address for the switch relative to the linux box? |
| 00:35.02 | roving_prole | yeah... ssh -R 8080:10.1.0.2:80 user@72.xxx.xxx.xxx -p 2022 |
| 00:35.33 | roving_prole | then I went to the 72.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080 |
| 00:37.07 | roving_prole | but hey, if this is what remote forwarding does (I've only forwarded local ports) then I can RTFM and play around with it |
| 00:37.18 | roving_prole | I just didn't realize it was this simple :) |
| 00:37.28 | vontrapp | i think it is |
| 00:39.02 | roving_prole | have you done it before, vontrapp? |
| 00:39.15 | vontrapp | i have, i'm poking around right now to make sure i have it right |
| 00:40.09 | vontrapp | roving_prole: looks like you might need the -g option |
| 00:40.41 | roving_prole | k, I'll give it a shot |
| 00:41.06 | herlo | vontrapp: what's the -g option do? |
| 00:41.23 | vontrapp | although it's working for me without -g |
| 00:42.21 | roving_prole | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.11 | vontrapp | roving_prole: looks like -L would work just the same, but go to localhost:8080 |
| 00:48.28 | roving_prole | sweet, that works! thanks. I had no idea you could do that |
| 00:48.59 | roving_prole | I've always just used localhost between the ports |
| 00:49.28 | roving_prole | I love ssh :) |
| 00:51.07 | herlo | roving_prole: so what were you trying to do? |
| 00:51.30 | roving_prole | just reach my web-only switches from off-site |
| 00:51.47 | roving_prole | I figured the linux machine could be a springboard, I just didn't know how |
| 00:52.20 | herlo | roving_prole: oh, cool |
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| 02:29.35 | sargun-palm | I hit on a patent lawyer |
| 02:32.18 | elg | did he hit him back I wonder |
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| 04:49.21 | lakshmi | ibot! |
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| 05:17.57 | D|sToRt|oN | you all are from utah |
| 05:17.58 | D|sToRt|oN | ? |
| 05:18.05 | D|sToRt|oN | lmao |
| 05:18.46 | lakshmi | im not |
| 05:18.48 | lakshmi | im not!!! |
| 05:18.51 | lakshmi | im cooler |
| 05:18.57 | D|sToRt|oN | lol |
| 05:19.48 | D|sToRt|oN | well im in california and ive been to salt lake city and man next time im to 120 Mph thru the state of utah |
| 05:20.10 | D|sToRt|oN | get thru that shit as fast as possible |
| 05:20.54 | D|sToRt|oN | the police are like the GESTPO |
| 05:21.00 | D|sToRt|oN | gestopo |
| 05:22.30 | RyanE | D|sToRt|oN: and what exactly is your point? |
| 05:24.18 | D|sToRt|oN | you from utah |
| 05:24.21 | D|sToRt|oN | ? |
| 05:24.43 | RyanE | yes |
| 05:24.54 | D|sToRt|oN | is every one mormon > |
| 05:24.55 | D|sToRt|oN | ? |
| 05:25.00 | RyanE | no |
| 05:25.02 | herlo | D|sToRt|oN: no |
| 05:25.06 | herlo | I'm not and I live there |
| 05:25.08 | RyanE | quite a few here are not |
| 05:25.15 | RyanE | quite a few here are, as well. |
| 05:25.37 | D|sToRt|oN | how living there ? |
| 05:25.42 | D|sToRt|oN | how is it |
| 05:25.58 | RyanE | not bad, like everywhere, there are issues. |
| 05:26.16 | RyanE | herlo: true, this. |
| 05:26.33 | herlo | Park City notwithstanding |
| 05:27.04 | herlo | and now, its bed time |
| 05:27.15 | RyanE | herlo: no games night tonight, I take it? |
| 05:27.21 | RyanE | herlo: wuss! |
| 05:27.23 | RyanE | :) |
| 05:27.26 | herlo | hehe, NYC |
| 05:27.29 | D|sToRt|oN | well when i was there i had a ticket for greyhound and a 16 hour layover and them ass holes made me sleep out side |
| 05:27.35 | RyanE | eh, I would've kicked your butt anyway. |
| 05:27.49 | D|sToRt|oN | and the cops gave me crap |
| 05:27.49 | RyanE | D|sToRt|oN: that's likely greyhound not Utah-specific. |
| 05:27.50 | herlo | and goes to bed |
| 05:27.56 | RyanE | herlo: night. |
| 05:27.59 | lakshmi | D|sToRt|oN where in california? |
| 05:28.10 | D|sToRt|oN | Sacromento |
| 05:28.19 | lakshmi | D|sToRt|oN lols nice |
| 05:28.28 | lakshmi | what do you do there? |
| 05:28.36 | lakshmi | and san jo is cooler :) |
| 05:28.48 | herlo | night |
| 05:28.52 | D|sToRt|oN | Im in job corps |
| 05:39.37 | lakshmi | whats job corps |
| 05:39.56 | D|sToRt|oN | google |
| 05:44.17 | D|sToRt|oN | [09:42] ( banana ) I WANT COCK |
| 05:44.20 | D|sToRt|oN | lol |
| 05:44.25 | D|sToRt|oN | dame pms |
| 05:44.42 | D|sToRt|oN | horny IRC s|uts |
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| 05:49.22 | lakshmi | o.0 |
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| 06:19.36 | Sargun | Can someone language that *\|* guy? |
| 06:23.43 | tensai | not much point now as he's gone, hopefully never to return |
| 06:24.01 | tensai | it befuddles me that people care enough to stop by only to make a negative point |
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| 06:33.55 | Sargun | hiya |
| 06:34.53 | nix_chix0r | hi |
| 06:34.57 | Sargun | Sup? |
| 06:34.59 | nix_chix0r | i'm a nymphoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 06:47.21 | rsimpkin1 | Don't we have an op in here at all times? |
| 06:48.42 | nix_chix0r | lmao |
| 06:48.45 | nix_chix0r | i'm only kiddin |
| 06:48.59 | Sargun | :-X |
| 06:56.40 | lakshmi | hey |
| 06:57.04 | Sargun | heya |
| 07:00.34 | lakshmi | sup? |
| 07:14.42 | lakshmi | sargun. |
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| 15:27.47 | vontrapp | everytime i print something, it prints two lines then hangs |
| 15:28.11 | vontrapp | so everytime i do "cupsenable delorean" and it restarts the job, this time finishing it |
| 15:28.39 | vontrapp | so everytime i print something i get a piece of paper with two lines |
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| 15:39.44 | sjansen | atoponce attacks GL jabber server! news at 10 |
| 15:40.54 | beandog | woot.com -- hd tivos! \o/ |
| 15:41.38 | Jayce^ | ~mourn gary gygax |
| 15:41.39 | ibot | ACTION lights some candles for gary gygax |
| 15:41.58 | atoponce | sjansen started it |
| 15:42.08 | sjansen | dont-burn-money-buying-junk-give-it-to-sjansen.com |
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| 15:47.45 | ^Migs^ | haahaha, Lansa just RECENTLY introduced a debugger into their IDE, in version 11 |
| 15:48.07 | ^Migs^ | oh man, I'm snickering wildly here |
| 15:48.25 | atoponce | did they start on version 10? |
| 15:48.34 | ^Migs^ | no, version 10 didn't have one |
| 15:48.57 | ^Migs^ | the presenter said "we're lucky" because we have a debugger we can use now |
| 15:49.07 | sjansen | Real men don't need debuggers, they just add printfs and recompile. |
| 15:49.16 | ^Migs^ | exactly |
| 15:49.32 | ^Migs^ | actually, that's what I usually do anyway haha |
| 15:50.08 | ^Migs^ | I tend to get more information than a debugger gives me |
| 15:53.56 | ^Migs^ | http://www.ungun.org/ |
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| 15:57.27 | sjansen | wow |
| 15:57.44 | sjansen | Can I get a refund on any of my tax dollars promised to that group? |
| 15:58.42 | atoponce | oh brother. sweet building though |
| 15:59.20 | sjansen | (Be sure to read the fine print on the bottom of the page.) |
| 16:00.07 | atoponce | heh. figured |
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| 17:24.05 | goozbach_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.11 | goozbach_ | split split split |
| 17:24.15 | goozbach_ | split that netwok |
| 17:24.23 | goozbach_ | split that network! |
| 17:27.16 | goozbach_ | should I get an Eeepc, an N810, a PS3, or a Wii? |
| 17:27.44 | goozbach_ | leaning heavily toward the PS3 Metal gear solid package |
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| 17:31.04 | maquis | goozbach_: olpc is nice |
| 17:31.10 | maquis | but that wasn't on your list |
| 17:32.42 | goozbach_ | I would probally wait until the 9" EEEEEEEPPc came out |
| 17:32.59 | goozbach_ | (strain when you say Eeepc to make that sound) |
| 17:37.06 | sjansen | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/funny-pictures-cat-scared-sink-water1.jpg |
| 17:38.07 | ^Migs^ | hahahaha |
| 17:39.12 | herlo | goozbach_: get the eeep |
| 17:39.30 | fozzmoo | 9-incher is coming out?!?!?! |
| 17:39.36 | ^Migs^ | this summer |
| 17:39.42 | fozzmoo | URL? JPEGs? |
| 17:40.01 | fozzmoo | What about the 5-incher?! When is THAT coming? |
| 17:40.01 | ^Migs^ | we're not your personal web monkeys. Google it. |
| 17:40.09 | ^Migs^ | what about the HALF-incher? |
| 17:40.29 | fozzmoo | http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/03/hands-on-with-the-9-inch-eee-pc/ |
| 17:40.31 | brac | [Hands-on with the 9-inch Eee PC - Engadget] |
| 17:41.05 | fozzmoo | So... is it just that the screen area is bigger? |
| 17:41.11 | fozzmoo | Or is the whole thing bigger? |
| 17:41.38 | fozzmoo | Looks... niiiiiice. |
| 17:42.00 | ^Migs^ | 1024x768 resolution |
| 17:42.02 | ^Migs^ | er |
| 17:42.05 | fozzmoo | 600 |
| 17:42.06 | ^Migs^ | not 768. Whatever it is |
| 17:42.07 | fozzmoo | 1024x600 |
| 17:42.08 | ^Migs^ | yeah, 600 |
| 17:42.19 | ^Migs^ | and the other is 800x480, right? |
| 17:42.25 | fozzmoo | I'm probably getting a new "desktop replacement" laptop soon... |
| 17:42.38 | fozzmoo | but I would like to leave it on my desk and carry the eeePC to meetings. :) |
| 17:43.03 | fozzmoo | (And then, if I have to pee during a meeting, I'll leave the eeePC in the meeting and take my Treo with me to the restroom.) |
| 17:43.20 | ^Migs^ | or you could just pee before the meeting |
| 17:43.37 | fozzmoo | With my caffeinated liquid intake... I'll do both! |
| 17:43.39 | sjansen | And if I fall down and black out while peeing, I'll leave the Treo in the bathroom and play Tetris in my head. |
| 17:43.57 | fozzmoo | sjansen: You're brilliant. |
| 17:44.36 | ^Migs^ | I want a Gameboy Advance that looks like a laptop |
| 17:44.40 | ^Migs^ | perfect for meetnigs |
| 17:44.45 | ^Migs^ | s/meetnigs/meetings/ |
| 17:44.45 | fozzmoo | hee hee. |
| 17:58.14 | Sargun | o.O |
| 18:05.24 | herlo | me neither, other than sjansen loves them |
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| 18:08.49 | atoponce | i think that picture is hilarious, though |
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| 18:40.13 | Sargun | Does anyone know of CDNs that do application distribution? |
| 18:42.43 | levi | I still have one of these: http://www.transmetazone.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=381&page=2 |
| 18:44.14 | levi | What's more, I had it WAY before any of you silly EeePCers. |
| 18:48.07 | unum | and probably paid 10x as much |
| 18:50.50 | levi | I got a reconditioned one, so it was relatively cheap. |
| 18:51.44 | levi | And it was a reasonably-specced laptop for the day, not a tier down like the EeePC is. |
| 18:55.41 | goozbach_ | what does the http expires header mean if it's set to 0? never cache or always cache? |
| 18:58.47 | goozbach_ | http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec14.html#sec14.21 |
| 18:59.10 | goozbach_ | there's my answer: "HTTP/1.1 clients and caches MUST treat other invalid date formats, especially including the value "0", as in the past (i.e., "already expired")." |
| 19:11.27 | goozbach | ok yoohoos is gross |
| 19:19.08 | ^Migs^ | ew, why did you try that? |
| 19:19.22 | goozbach | my wife packed it in my lunch |
| 19:19.34 | ^Migs^ | your wife makes lunch for you? |
| 19:19.40 | goozbach | every day |
| 19:19.45 | ^Migs^ | Does she put it in a Transformers lunch box? |
| 19:19.51 | goozbach | I wish |
| 19:19.55 | ^Migs^ | yeah, that would rock |
| 19:19.56 | goozbach | that'd be cool |
| 19:19.59 | ^Migs^ | I used to have a He-Man lunch box |
| 19:20.15 | goozbach | but I would want it in my Alf lunch box |
| 19:20.26 | ^Migs^ | That would also be acceptable |
| 19:20.42 | ^Migs^ | I Think you should inform her there's been a change in lunch preparation plan |
| 19:24.44 | lakshmi | haha |
| 19:27.59 | ^Migs^ | http://www.w3schools.com/downloadwww.htm |
| 19:41.01 | ^Migs^ | okay, this is pretty cool about Lansa. Any source code you develop in it, can be universally used to create Windows, web, or DOS apps |
| 19:41.09 | rsimpkins | Does anyone know how MTAs handle domains that don't have a publish MX record? |
| 19:41.16 | ^Migs^ | without changing anything. You just select "Compile as Windows app" or "Compile as web app" |
| 19:41.21 | rsimpkins | There is a domain I'm trying to send to, and the guy has no MX set up. |
| 19:41.25 | jsmith | rsimpkins: They should fall back to using the A record |
| 19:41.31 | rsimpkins | That's what I thought. |
| 19:42.25 | ^Migs^ | I wish I could do that in Java |
| 19:46.20 | ^Migs^ | http://biffstar.mine.nu/~biff/superman.jpg |
| 19:46.21 | sjansen | rsimpkins: They should fall back to the A record. But that's not a good practice. Better to do things right then hope that people design MTAs well. |
| 19:46.34 | ^Migs^ | hahaha, from the toy section at Wal-Mart! |
| 19:46.35 | rsimpkins | sjansen: I agree, but I have no control over this. |
| 19:47.45 | sjansen | rsimpkins: *shrug* His fault if he doesn't get all his mail. |
| 19:48.34 | rsimpkins | sjansen: Yup. |
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| 19:51.14 | elg | ~lart being sick |
| 19:51.14 | ibot | lowers being sick's priority |
| 19:56.03 | sjansen | http://www.escapeartist.com/efam/94/art_20_Reasons_Not_Move_to_Dubai.html |
| 19:56.04 | brac | [The Top 20 Reasons Not to Move to Dubai (in no particular order!) By Tia O’Neill] |
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| 20:27.18 | bbeattie | if I have a $string of "~ m/^test$/" and I want to use this to do regular expression matching, anyone have a url or know how? I can't find an example via google. |
| 20:27.54 | Jayce^ | in perl? and it has the ~ and everything? |
| 20:28.08 | bbeattie | yup |
| 20:28.38 | bbeattie | well, I could get rid of the ~ m so it's just ^test$ if that helps |
| 20:29.00 | Jayce^ | yeah, keep just the pattern itself, then look at the qr function |
| 20:31.56 | bbeattie | what if I want the ~m .. |
| 20:32.17 | Jayce^ | then you'll have to do a string eval, which is not nearly as good of an idea |
| 20:42.53 | Tene | or just strip it off first. |
| 20:47.13 | levi | So, these Ice Breakers energy mints supposedly have 10mg of caffeine per mint. |
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| 20:47.58 | levi | I'm tempted to get some FOOSH mints, though. |
| 20:48.41 | rsimpkins | Doesn't a cup of coffee have like 100mg of caffeine? |
| 20:48.46 | levi | Yeah. |
| 20:48.55 | levi | On average, anyway. |
| 20:49.09 | levi | It varies widely. |
| 20:49.26 | mrpull-lt | this 12oz can of pepsi says it has 38mg |
| 20:50.01 | rsimpkins | Yup. |
| 20:50.08 | rsimpkins | Dr. Pepper has a lot. |
| 20:50.12 | levi | 1 FOOSH mint has 100mg of caffeine, plus ginseng, taurine, and b-vitamins. |
| 20:50.18 | atoponce | s/Dr./Dr/ |
| 20:50.28 | rsimpkins | mountain dew has 55mg |
| 20:50.28 | atoponce | :) |
| 20:50.31 | levi | Dr Pepper has less than Moutain Dew. |
| 20:51.06 | atoponce | http://wilstar.com/caffeine.htm |
| 20:51.07 | brac | [How Much Caffeine in Drinks -- Coffee, Tea, Soft Drinks -- Caffeine Content] |
| 20:51.17 | levi | The nice thing about mints is that they are low in calories and taste good, as opposed to diet drinks, which taste nasty. |
| 20:51.22 | rsimpkins | http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/duke/farmacy2.pl?289 |
| 20:51.25 | brac | [Farmacy Query] |
| 20:51.35 | rsimpkins | Lists what chemicals are in coffee. |
| 20:53.15 | rsimpkins | Acetaldehyde is the nasty stuff in coffee/tea isn't it? |
| 20:55.13 | levi | Wikipedia says it occurs naturally in ripe fruit, coffee, and fresh bread. |
| 20:55.36 | levi | Also popularly known as the chemical that causes hangovers. |
| 20:58.07 | levi | Huh. Apparently it's commercially produced, 740 million pounds of it in 1989. |
| 20:58.25 | atoponce | rsimpkins: what did he take that coffee sample from, and is there an equivalent tea sample? |
| 20:59.05 | levi | Anyway, attempting to justify the Word of Wisdom based on chemicals in coffee and tea is futile. |
| 20:59.50 | atoponce | or is that a listing found in all coffees |
| 21:00.12 | levi | atoponce: It's a listing of all chemical compounds found in the coffee plant. |
| 21:00.43 | levi | atoponce: Not all of them will be in coffee drinks, since it lists some as being in the seed, some as being in the stem, etc. |
| 21:00.48 | ^Migs^ | you could just appeal to the fact that coffee tastes gross |
| 21:01.40 | rsimpkins | I know a lot of people who think coffee tastes great. |
| 21:02.01 | atoponce | levi: are stems part of coffee, or is this a sample that is larger than the drink itself? |
| 21:02.44 | levi | atoponce: 'coffee' is a drink made from roasted coffee beans. The beans come from a plant. The page lists chemical compounds in that plant. |
| 21:03.15 | atoponce | i see |
| 21:03.42 | rsimpkins | "Ethanol is metabolized into acetaldehyde and then into acetate mainly in the liver, and this process is accompanied by formation of free radicals." Fortunatly coffee has a lot of anti-oxidants. :) |
| 21:04.29 | rsimpkins | atoponce: In the bean it says, so it should be just the bean part of the coffe plant, which is then ground up to make the coffee. Using water, so everything gets dilluted unless you make an extra strong brew of the stuff. |
| 21:07.01 | levi | rsimpkins: Are you talking about the 'farmacy' page you linked to? Because not all of the chemicals listed there are in the beans. Just the ones listed with 'seed' next to them. |
| 21:08.06 | atoponce | http://www.nationalgeographic.com/coffee/ |
| 21:08.08 | brac | [Coffee @ nationalgeographic.com] |
| 21:08.16 | rsimpkins | Interesting that coffee, tea, tobacco, and alcohol all have a tie in to acetaldehyde. |
| 21:08.20 | rsimpkins | levi: Oh yes, my mistake. |
| 21:08.48 | rsimpkins | I wonder what other foods have acetaldehyde in them. |
| 21:09.04 | levi | Like I said, ripe fruit and fresh bread. |
| 21:09.05 | rsimpkins | Milk chocolate looks like it has it. |
| 21:10.17 | levi | I imagine it's in a lot of plants, since it's part of their metabolic process. |
| 21:11.25 | rsimpkins | no way to really escape it. |
| 21:14.52 | levi | Life is full of dangerous chemicals. Water will kill you if you drink too much of it. |
| 21:15.24 | levi | Our bodies require trace amounts of all sorts of things that would kill us in high doses. |
| 21:16.35 | rsimpkins | I think it is interesting. |
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| 21:17.36 | sjansen | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:17.49 | atoponce | ? |
| 21:17.57 | TimRiker | heh. ww I bet. |
| 21:18.29 | atoponce | i'd be more worried about herlo |
| 21:18.37 | emcnabb | sjansen, please, be nice |
| 21:18.59 | TimRiker | somehow that request carries more weight than it used to. |
| 21:19.11 | rsimpkins | hehe. :) |
| 21:19.17 | sjansen | Fine, fine. Congrats emcnabb. I'm sure you will wear the power comfortably and excersize it responsibly. All hail emcnabb! |
| 21:19.27 | TimRiker | rofl |
| 21:19.47 | rsimpkins | I, for one, welcome the new chanop overlords. |
| 21:19.50 | emcnabb | sjansen, don't worry. I usually like you. But that may change. Watch out. |
| 21:20.21 | atoponce | notice the keyword "usually" |
| 21:20.28 | rsimpkins | Be prepered for consistent and non-ceasing requests from users. :) |
| 21:20.30 | emcnabb | atoponce, :-) |
| 21:20.32 | TimRiker | */ meet the new boss, same as the old boss /* |
| 21:23.57 | rsimpkins | Oh, I got to try out the HDTV thing from comcast. |
| 21:24.15 | levi | rsimpkins: What did you think? |
| 21:24.20 | rsimpkins | The box is really slow, esspecially when displaying HD content. |
| 21:24.28 | rsimpkins | But the picture is very high quality on the HD channels. |
| 21:24.37 | rsimpkins | We watched some of the free HD movies. |
| 21:25.04 | levi | Oh, I saw the cheap digital tuners in WalMart today for $49. These are the ones you can use your $40 coupon from the gov't on. |
| 21:25.06 | rsimpkins | My TV does switch between the 4:3 and 16:9 ratios with it hooked up on the component in, so that's good. |
| 21:26.25 | goozbach | levi: our bodies also need large amounts of certian substances where trace amounts will kill us. |
| 21:26.48 | levi | goozbach: trace amounts or no amounts |
| 21:26.53 | levi | (like water, again) |
| 21:27.29 | goozbach | if you have trace amounts or no O2 it will kill you |
| 21:27.51 | levi | Yeah, that one works even faster. |
| 21:28.06 | beandog | rsimpkins, you likey? |
| 21:28.16 | levi | But most people are familiar with those bodily requirements. |
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| 21:28.31 | goozbach | buhahah? |
| 21:28.38 | rsimpkins | beandog: I do, but I wouldn't have gone out and spent that much money JUST for HD. I can understand why some people would. |
| 21:28.44 | goozbach | so why did I end up with voice? curious |
| 21:28.57 | beandog | Hmm |
| 21:29.06 | rsimpkins | goozbach: So that lowly users can ask you to ban annoying people. |
| 21:29.32 | goozbach | who we bannin? |
| 21:29.34 | levi | My point is that there are a lot of substances that are highly toxic in some doses that we would get sick and even die without. |
| 21:29.55 | rsimpkins | We had a brief 'incident' last night - and no ops. |
| 21:31.18 | sjansen | goozbach: Could we get a kickban of TimRiker? He's always causing trouble. |
| 21:31.31 | goozbach | ~pageadmins |
| 21:31.35 | sjansen | ~TimRiker |
| 21:31.36 | ibot | i guess timriker is my owner http://rikers.org/ mailto:Tim@Rikers.org mailto:TimR@Debian.org maintainer of BZFlag, member of a ton of open source projects http://www.advogato.com/person/timriker/ http://sourceforge.net/users/timriker/ the guy who GPL'd SCO's ABI files, giving every Linux user the right to use them ;-), or a very cool guy. |
| 21:31.38 | goozbach | pageadmins |
| 21:31.43 | TimRiker | goozbach: I just set an autovoice level, and you were on the list. |
| 21:31.48 | goozbach | ahh |
| 21:32.08 | sjansen | See what I mean? Bet you didn't know TimRiker founded SCO. But ibot knows. |
| 21:32.34 | TimRiker | ssshhh don't tell anyone. I'll be getting more investment dollars any day now. |
| 21:33.18 | rsimpkins | TimRiker: Oh, that reminds me. Ballmer called. He asked if you could step it up with the law suits please. |
| 21:33.59 | rsimpkins | What ever happened to the legal process SCO started with Autozone (and others?)? |
| 21:34.00 | sjansen | What is SCO worth these days? Last I heard 50,000 shares was worth 5 millicents. |
| 21:34.17 | sontek_ | rsimpkins: you coming to the summit? |
| 21:34.21 | atoponce | rsimpkins: sco is still going after autozone |
| 21:34.27 | beandog | where do you even get a millicent |
| 21:34.33 | sjansen | Most of them are paused pending the Novell decision. |
| 21:34.55 | TimRiker | ibot: convert 50000 millicents to dollars |
| 21:35.12 | atoponce | i guess groklaw says "can" http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080302062308854 |
| 21:35.41 | rsimpkins | sontek_: Nope. |
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| 21:39.34 | atoponce | might as well set the ban on D|sToRt|oN and nix_chix0r, while it's still in the scrollback |
| 21:50.15 | ^Migs^ | ibot: convert 50000 kilotons to grams |
| 21:50.32 | ^Migs^ | ibot: convert 50000 F to C |
| 21:51.01 | ^Migs^ | ibot: convert 1 Migs to 1 goozbach |
| 21:51.20 | ^Migs^ | s/1 goozbach/goozbach/ |
| 21:51.33 | ^Migs^ | ibot: convert 1 dollar to pounds |
| 21:51.55 | ^Migs^ | ibot: convert 1 dollar to rubees |
| 21:52.00 | ^Migs^ | rupees |
| 21:52.03 | ^Migs^ | wtf |
| 21:52.09 | levi | convert 1 dollar to pounds sterling |
| 21:52.18 | levi | ~convert 1 dollar to pounds sterling |
| 21:52.27 | levi | ~convert 1 dollar to gbp |
| 21:52.43 | ^Migs^ | ibot: convert 38 waist size mens to waist size womens |
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| 22:17.36 | vontrapp | how can i chmod +s recursively to all directories? |
| 22:17.47 | levi | With -R |
| 22:17.48 | vontrapp | if i just do chmod +s -R i get files with S on them |
| 22:17.52 | dmdavis | find -type d? |
| 22:18.04 | levi | Oh, you just want the directories. |
| 22:18.09 | levi | Yeah, with find. |
| 22:18.18 | goozbach | find | xargs |
| 22:19.01 | vontrapp | thx |
| 22:19.52 | levi | You know, I'm surprised that functional programming isn't more popular among unix geeks, since pipelining a bunch of small, reusable commands is the essence of functional programming. |
| 22:23.04 | Jayce^ | levi, when a haskell guy first explained it to me like *that* is when things started to click |
| 22:23.55 | levi | The fold functions are pure awesomeness. |
| 22:25.28 | Jayce^ | barely |
| 22:26.52 | beandog | doh |
| 22:27.24 | levi | This is a fun paper: http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Pubs/TechRpts/2006/EECS-2006-1.pdf |
| 22:27.48 | levi | It argues against threads as a useful concurrency model. |
| 22:28.07 | sjansen | levi: Several things are the essence of functional programming, bug candy coated so that most users don't realize it. |
| 22:28.34 | vontrapp | candy coated bugs are the best kind |
| 22:28.35 | sjansen | Tell users they can _only_ write shell scripts using pipes and you'll learn why functional programming hasn't caught on. |
| 22:28.39 | vontrapp | easier to pass them off as features that way |
| 22:29.19 | levi | sjansen: Well, that's precisely why Haskell has monadic actions and 'do' notation now. |
| 22:29.35 | sontek_ | rsimpkins: slacker |
| 22:29.44 | rsimpkins | sontek_: What? |
| 22:30.01 | Jayce^ | the joys of an empty office and good speakers |
| 22:30.11 | rsimpkins | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.14 | sontek_ | rsimpkins: come hangout at the summit! |
| 22:30.19 | sontek_ | haha |
| 22:30.20 | levi | Alas, I have wonderful speakers but not an empty office. |
| 22:30.27 | levi | Fortunately, I also have wonderful headphones. |
| 22:30.38 | sjansen | Ah, monads, one of the reasons Haskell hasn't caught on more. Until the functional world finds a better way to teach mere mortals how to do functional programming with monads, Haskell will be limited in popularity. |
| 22:30.58 | sontek_ | I've been having to do IT for all the attendees because they printed the agenda saying the wireless was WEP when it was WPA, and no one could figure out why it didn't work :P |
| 22:31.07 | sontek_ | I'd rather be at work ;) |
| 22:31.09 | levi | sjansen: Monads are primarily scary because the're called 'monads'. |
| 22:31.10 | sjansen | It's a teaching problem, really. |
| 22:31.43 | levi | Also, that the web is full of people doing terribly clever things with them. |
| 22:32.09 | levi | If there were mostly examples of people doing mundane things with them, they would seem less mystical. |
| 22:32.23 | levi | But they would still be called 'monads', and thus scary. |
| 22:32.38 | TimRiker | there is a "change" module for currency, but xe banned ibot. |
| 22:32.46 | TimRiker | ~change 1 eur to usd |
| 22:33.16 | TimRiker | banned. need to change it to use an open currency conversion site. |
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| 22:34.23 | goozbach | TimRiker: you filthy web smasher |
| 22:34.25 | goozbach | :) |
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| 22:35.06 | sontek_ | TimRiker: There is a really good web service for currency exchange on a new york bank |
| 22:35.09 | sontek_ | let me grab it |
| 22:35.24 | TimRiker | dontcha jus hate it when you close a window instead of a tab? |
| 22:35.36 | TimRiker | sontek_: patches welcome. :) |
| 22:36.37 | goozbach | ibot: where's your source? |
| 22:36.44 | goozbach | :) |
| 22:36.48 | goozbach | ~ibot |
| 22:36.49 | ibot | it has been said that ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 22:36.58 | goozbach | ~blootbot |
| 22:36.58 | ibot | i guess blootbot is an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ , I am a blootbot |
| 22:36.59 | TimRiker | ~source |
| 22:37.00 | ibot | To build Debian packages from source code: first, add a deb-src line to your sources.list file. Then "apt-get build-dep _pkg_" and "apt-get -b source _pkg_" to retrieve the build-dependencies, and the source. The resulting .deb files will be in `pwd`. |
| 22:37.04 | brac | [B L O O T B O T . H O M E] |
| 22:37.05 | TimRiker | heh |
| 22:37.34 | goozbach | ~factinfo source |
| 22:37.34 | ibot | source -- created by greycat <~wooledg@192.35.79.70> at Wed Dec 31 14:36:09 2003 (1526 days); it has been requested 43 times, last by TimRiker, 34s ago. |
| 22:37.40 | TimRiker | needs updating. merged back into the infobot project now. |
| 22:37.58 | goozbach | the blootbot fork healed? |
| 22:38.19 | TimRiker | time will tell. |
| 22:38.21 | sjansen | levi: If you think about it, it makes sense. 50% of the world's population is afraid of being kicked in the monads. |
| 22:38.40 | Jayce^ | ~pun sjansen |
| 22:39.10 | levi | sjansen: That, and when you ask, 'what's a monad?' you get an answer that mentions a relatively obscure branch of mathematics that certainly only a total egghead would know about. |
| 22:39.20 | goozbach | sjansen: that's only true of survivors of testicular cancer |
| 22:39.40 | goozbach | isn't "monad" singular of "gonads"? |
| 22:39.53 | levi | I mean, even the geekiest hacker thinks math geeks are unacceptably nerdy. :P |
| 22:40.09 | Tene | I'm curious what that says about me. |
| 22:41.18 | levi | Possibly that you're unacceptably nerdy. But that shouldn't bother you, because a large portion of the population thinks that of anyone who uses a computer beyond sending email and browsing facebook/myspace. |
| 22:44.26 | Jayce^ | thaddeusq, pr0n! |
| 22:47.01 | levi | Interesting. Microsoft released the source code to their Singularity research OS. |
| 22:47.18 | Tene | under what license? |
| 22:47.32 | levi | Microsoft Research License |
| 22:48.04 | levi | For non-commercial academic use, no production software development allowed. |
| 22:48.36 | levi | Which is fine with me; it's a research project, and it's based heavily on Microsoft technologies. |
| 22:55.03 | levi | http://www.codeplex.com/singularity |
| 22:55.46 | Tene | I was just curious, not looking to start a licensing debate. |
| 22:55.46 | levi | That's good. |
| 22:55.46 | levi | There seem to be nothing but license debates in the usual spots (slashdot, reddit, etc.) |
| 22:56.51 | levi | Like, zillions of 'OMFG! This is so EVIL! Don't look at that if you ever want to write Open Source code ever again!! It's a patent trap, so Microsoft can sue you!' |
| 22:57.29 | levi | Open Source Zealots leave the same bad taste in my mouth as PETA activists. |
| 22:58.10 | Tene | Neither group seems to bathe very often, so i can understand why they would taste bad. |
| 22:58.29 | levi | Ooh, IE8 beta is out. |
| 23:04.48 | levi | And this is awesome: http://www.xs4all.nl/~weegen/eelis/geordi/ |
| 23:05.01 | levi | A C++-evaluating IRC bot written in Haskell. |
| 23:05.55 | beandog | that is cool |
| 23:06.42 | levi | It does use gcc, though. |
| 23:07.30 | levi | Which is good for its intended purpose, but not quite as awesome as a full C++ evaluator/compiler written in Haskell. |
| 23:12.23 | Tene | levi: you've seen c-repl, right? |
| 23:12.47 | harleypig | Does anyone know of a way to make a PS2 play videos from a web server? |
| 23:27.58 | levi | Tene: I've heard of it. |
| 23:29.25 | Tene | It has an interesting approach. |
| 23:31.06 | levi | Which is? |
| 23:31.47 | Tene | It compiles each line into a shared object and then dlopen()s it. |
| 23:31.49 | Tene | http://neugierig.org/software/c-repl/ |
| 23:31.50 | brac | [C REPL] |
| 23:31.59 | levi | Ahh, yeah. |
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