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| 00:03.34 | ti`ocpi | Hallo Utahns! I have a question, if anybody doesn't mind answering it :) |
| 00:03.58 | ti`ocpi | I'm trying to sell some dvds and books - but everywhere I've looked to sell them won't take them for a decent price. |
| 00:04.11 | ti`ocpi | Was wondering if anybody had any ideas of places to sell in SL Valley |
| 00:04.14 | fozzmoo | ti`ocpi: Have you tried Ebay? |
| 00:04.50 | ti`ocpi | Yeah ... but the most I'd get for a series of 11 books (manga specifically) was 3$ ... |
| 00:04.55 | ti`ocpi | And that's sorta ... pathetic |
| 00:06.12 | ti`ocpi | (I'm hoping for at least 11$, preferably more) |
| 00:06.53 | tensai | craigslist? |
| 00:07.02 | levi | I don't suppose anyone here works with Compact PCI systems, do they? |
| 00:07.21 | mrpull- | next eeepc question... does WPA actually work? |
| 00:07.34 | herlo | mrpull-: yes |
| 00:07.38 | ti`ocpi | manga and anime don't do so well on craigslist |
| 00:07.41 | ti`ocpi | First place I looked |
| 00:07.44 | herlo | mrpull-: I use it every day, with wpa-psk |
| 00:08.06 | mrpull- | ok. cool. i'm troubleshooting one remotely and don't have a lot of context here |
| 00:08.14 | mrpull- | herlo: are you using an hdsc card? |
| 00:08.18 | mrpull- | sdhc |
| 00:08.21 | mrpull- | whatever :) |
| 00:08.23 | herlo | mrpull-: no, but I want one |
| 00:08.28 | herlo | shdc? |
| 00:08.31 | herlo | cshd |
| 00:08.36 | herlo | shcd |
| 00:08.48 | herlo | schd |
| 00:08.51 | herlo | :) |
| 00:09.25 | atoponce | tensai: how does snort compare to aide? |
| 00:09.47 | tensai | atoponce: snort is all about network packets. aide is just for local files. |
| 00:10.15 | atoponce | i see. can snort handle local files/dirs, or just network intrusion only? |
| 00:10.33 | tensai | just network intrusion |
| 00:14.12 | nick125 | hahaha, newegg sells a 0dBi antenna |
| 00:15.01 | sjansen | heh |
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| 00:15.41 | nick125 | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833147115 |
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| 00:20.32 | sjansen | http://www.theonion.com/content/video/diebold_accidentally_leaks |
| 00:21.31 | dataw0lf | sjansen: heh, that's a good one. |
| 00:21.54 | nick125 | agreed |
| 00:41.51 | dataw0lf | man my fiancee is so funny! http://ircimages.com/popup/320795 |
| 00:43.16 | harleypig | hmmm ... Jayce^ lands in Burbank and seven people are shot ... |
| 00:43.39 | harleypig | in LA |
| 00:45.02 | harleypig | Is that young woman your fiance? |
| 00:45.22 | dataw0lf | yup. isn't she an angel? |
| 00:45.30 | harleypig | Yep. |
| 00:46.26 | harleypig | oh hell ... there's another site to put in my monitor links. |
| 00:47.21 | mrpull- | gah... some of the images on ircimages are a little too disturbing for me |
| 00:48.01 | harleypig | woops ... yeah ... that goes into the "wait til kids are in bad category" |
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| 01:04.45 | Supaplex | in vim, how do I remove a file from the buffers list? |
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| 02:52.02 | goozbach | fozzmoo: RHEL5? |
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| 03:12.04 | lakshmi | hi |
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| 03:54.42 | scorpio | hi |
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| 04:00.21 | levi | Hi. |
| 04:00.40 | scorpio | still darn quiet here |
| 04:00.54 | levi | It often is. |
| 04:01.17 | Sargun | Yup. |
| 04:01.33 | levi | Sometimes you just need to start a conversation. |
| 04:02.59 | scorpio | hmmm k |
| 04:12.38 | findlay | Don Giovani |
| 04:15.16 | findlay | literally this time |
| 04:21.01 | levi | Hmm, music. |
| 04:21.02 | levi | Good idea. |
| 04:24.06 | findlay | ~convert 1 femptogram to elvis |
| 04:24.20 | findlay | ~convert 1 attogram to elvis |
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| 05:34.35 | levi | o/~ A hunk a-hunk a-hunk a' burnin' love! o/~ |
| 06:46.41 | Supaplex | ~convert 1 attogram to poetry |
| 07:13.10 | Supaplex | eh? |
| 07:13.50 | nick125 | It's supposed to make stuff run faster by linking applications in advance |
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| 07:13.56 | nick125 | instead of at runtime |
| 07:20.32 | wps | can you use an OR in an MySQL query? |
| 07:23.13 | sontek | of course |
| 07:23.27 | wps | nevermind… I think I see why it wasn't working |
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| 08:14.48 | Sargun | ? |
| 08:14.54 | Sargun | -talk |
| 08:14.55 | brac | insufficient "talk" auth (have 10, need 40) |
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| 13:56.33 | Sargun | oh yes |
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| 14:13.19 | ibot | gnaws on ^Migs^'s ears mmmm carrots, my flavorate NOM NOM NOM |
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| 14:19.51 | Sargun | "The goal of 100 Gbps Ethernet transmission is closer to reality with the announcement Wednesday that Alcatel-Lucent researchers have recorded an optical transmission record along with three photonic integrated circuits. Carried out by researchers in Bell Labs in Villarceaux, France, the successful transmission of 16.4 Tbps of optical data over 2,550 km was assisted by Alcatel's Thales' III-V Lab and Kylia, an optical solution company. The researchers |
| 14:19.51 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:55.58 | sontek | ~oink harleypig |
| 15:56.09 | harleypig | how come I can't set my own onjoin? |
| 15:56.26 | harleypig | or do I have the syntax wrong? |
| 15:56.38 | harleypig | it's onjoin set message, right? |
| 15:57.00 | sontek | ~onjoin harleypig *REAAAAHHHHHHHHHH* |
| 15:57.00 | ibot | ok, sontek |
| 15:57.29 | harleypig | ~onjoin harleypig -figlet OINK! |
| 15:57.29 | ibot | harleypig: ok |
| 15:57.36 | sontek | haha |
| 15:57.36 | harleypig | ~onjoin harleypig get |
| 15:57.36 | ibot | ok, harleypig |
| 15:57.40 | harleypig | woops |
| 15:57.42 | harleypig | ~onjoin harleypig -figlet OINK! |
| 15:57.42 | ibot | harleypig: ok |
| 15:57.50 | harleypig | ~onjoin get harleypig |
| 15:57.50 | ibot | harleypig: ok |
| 15:57.54 | harleypig | arghh |
| 15:57.57 | harleypig | ~onjoin harleypig -figlet OINK! |
| 15:57.57 | ibot | harleypig: ok |
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| 15:58.02 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:58.02 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:58.03 | brac | | | | || | | \| || ' / | | |
| 15:58.03 | brac | | |_| || | | |\ || . \ |_| |
| 15:58.05 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:58.05 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:58.07 | harleypig | there we go |
| 15:58.07 | sontek | haha |
| 15:58.10 | sontek | nice =) |
| 15:58.32 | harleypig | wonder if there's an onpart command |
| 15:58.57 | harleypig | doesn't look like it. |
| 15:59.15 | harleypig | I suppose I could add it to my config though. |
| 15:59.46 | sontek | yeah, you could tell irssi to /exec -o figlet :P |
| 16:01.07 | Tene | /exec -o yes -figlet SPAM |
| 16:01.39 | Tene | Hmm. should be -- -figlet |
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| 16:03.30 | atoponce | Tene: that would be so incredibly annoynig |
| 16:03.40 | atoponce | yet ingenious altogether |
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| 16:06.12 | harleypig | -figlet PIG GONE |
| 16:06.13 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.13 | brac | | _ \|_ _|/ ___| / ___| / _ \ | \ | || ____| |
| 16:06.13 | brac | | |_) || || | _ | | _ | | | || \| || _| |
| 16:06.13 | brac | | __/ | || |_| | | |_| || |_| || |\ || |___ |
| 16:06.15 | harleypig | -figlet PIG GONE |
| 16:06.15 | brac | |_| |___|\____| \____| \___/ |_| \_||_____| |
| 16:06.15 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.15 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.17 | brac | | _ \|_ _|/ ___| / ___| / _ \ | \ | || ____| |
| 16:06.17 | harleypig | -figlet PIG GONE |
| 16:06.19 | brac | | |_) || || | _ | | _ | | | || \| || _| |
| 16:06.20 | harleypig | -figlet PIG GONE |
| 16:06.21 | brac | | __/ | || |_| | | |_| || |_| || |\ || |___ |
| 16:06.22 | harleypig | -figlet PIG GONE |
| 16:06.23 | brac | |_| |___|\____| \____| \___/ |_| \_||_____| |
| 16:06.25 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.25 | harleypig | -figlet PIG GONE |
| 16:06.27 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.28 | harleypig | -figlet PIG GONE |
| 16:06.29 | brac | | _ \|_ _|/ ___| / ___| / _ \ | \ | || ____| |
| 16:06.29 | tensai | ~lart harleypig |
| 16:06.29 | ibot | runs at harleypig with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut |
| 16:06.30 | harleypig | -figlet PIG GONE |
| 16:06.31 | brac | | |_) || || | _ | | _ | | | || \| || _| |
| 16:06.33 | brac | | __/ | || |_| | | |_| || |_| || |\ || |___ |
| 16:06.33 | harleypig | -figlet PIG GONE |
| 16:06.35 | brac | |_| |___|\____| \____| \___/ |_| \_||_____| |
| 16:06.37 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.39 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.41 | brac | | _ \|_ _|/ ___| / ___| / _ \ | \ | || ____| |
| 16:06.43 | brac | | |_) || || | _ | | _ | | | || \| || _| |
| 16:06.45 | brac | | __/ | || |_| | | |_| || |_| || |\ || |___ |
| 16:06.47 | brac | |_| |___|\____| \____| \___/ |_| \_||_____| |
| 16:06.49 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.51 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.53 | brac | | _ \|_ _|/ ___| / ___| / _ \ | \ | || ____| |
| 16:06.53 | tensai | elg: your bot is being abused |
| 16:06.55 | brac | | |_) || || | _ | | _ | | | || \| || _| |
| 16:06.57 | brac | | __/ | || |_| | | |_| || |_| || |\ || |___ |
| 16:06.59 | brac | |_| |___|\____| \____| \___/ |_| \_||_____| |
| 16:07.01 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.03 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.05 | brac | | _ \|_ _|/ ___| / ___| / _ \ | \ | || ____| |
| 16:07.05 | Tene | I've always found it entertaining to slip 'yes' into otherwise innocent-looking commands. Especially if I can get it to look like an option. |
| 16:07.07 | brac | | |_) || || | _ | | _ | | | || \| || _| |
| 16:07.09 | brac | | __/ | || |_| | | |_| || |_| || |\ || |___ |
| 16:07.11 | brac | |_| |___|\____| \____| \___/ |_| \_||_____| |
| 16:07.13 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.15 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.17 | brac | | _ \|_ _|/ ___| / ___| / _ \ | \ | || ____| |
| 16:07.19 | brac | | |_) || || | _ | | _ | | | || \| || _| |
| 16:07.21 | brac | | __/ | || |_| | | |_| || |_| || |\ || |___ |
| 16:07.25 | brac | |_| |___|\____| \____| \___/ |_| \_||_____| |
| 16:07.27 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.29 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.31 | brac | | _ \|_ _|/ ___| / ___| / _ \ | \ | || ____| |
| 16:07.33 | brac | | |_) || || | _ | | _ | | | || \| || _| |
| 16:07.35 | brac | | __/ | || |_| | | |_| || |_| || |\ || |___ |
| 16:07.37 | brac | |_| |___|\____| \____| \___/ |_| \_||_____| |
| 16:07.41 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.43 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.45 | brac | | _ \|_ _|/ ___| / ___| / _ \ | \ | || ____| |
| 16:07.47 | brac | | |_) || || | _ | | _ | | | || \| || _| |
| 16:07.49 | brac | | __/ | || |_| | | |_| || |_| || |\ || |___ |
| 16:07.51 | brac | |_| |___|\____| \____| \___/ |_| \_||_____| |
| 16:07.53 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.55 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.57 | brac | | _ \|_ _|/ ___| / ___| / _ \ | \ | || ____| |
| 16:07.59 | brac | | |_) || || | _ | | _ | | | || \| || _| |
| 16:08.01 | brac | | __/ | || |_| | | |_| || |_| || |\ || |___ |
| 16:08.05 | brac | |_| |___|\____| \____| \___/ |_| \_||_____| |
| 16:08.07 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.09 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.11 | brac | | _ \|_ _|/ ___| / ___| / _ \ | \ | || ____| |
| 16:08.13 | brac | | |_) || || | _ | | _ | | | || \| || _| |
| 16:08.13 | *** mode/#utah [+o tensai] by ChanServ |
| 16:08.15 | brac | | __/ | || |_| | | |_| || |_| || |\ || |___ |
| 16:08.17 | brac | |_| |___|\____| \____| \___/ |_| \_||_____| |
| 16:08.19 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.20 | *** kick/#utah [brac!n=tensai@69-20-161-226.static.ida.net] by tensai (Aw, nuts!) |
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| 16:08.39 | harleypig | umm ... I don't think I'll pursue that any further. |
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| 16:08.47 | harleypig | what'd it do to the channel? |
| 16:08.49 | brac | tensai: die! |
| 16:09.03 | tensai | harleypig: spammed your figlet about 10 times |
| 16:09.04 | elg | lol |
| 16:09.08 | Tene | harleypig: well, there are no more pigs... |
| 16:09.08 | elg | the bot holds a grudge |
| 16:09.15 | tensai | elg: that's funny |
| 16:09.33 | harleypig | I couldn't remember the stoopid killall command for a second. |
| 16:09.42 | harleypig | cause irssi was locked. |
| 16:09.56 | atoponce | i can't believe you actually executed it |
| 16:10.28 | harleypig | I looked at the help for /exec and figlet and I didn't see anything wrong with it ... i don't know why it repeated |
| 16:10.58 | Tene | harleypig: man yes |
| 16:11.10 | atoponce | /exec -o will spit anything out from your computer irssi is running on |
| 16:11.28 | harleypig | oh gawd ... |
| 16:11.46 | elg | -figlet PWNED |
| 16:11.47 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:11.47 | brac | | |_) |\ \ /\ / / | \| || _| | | | | |
| 16:11.47 | brac | | __/ \ V V / | |\ || |___ | |_| | |
| 16:11.49 | brac | |_| \_/\_/ |_| \_||_____||____/ |
| 16:11.49 | brac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:11.53 | atoponce | heh |
| 16:12.23 | atoponce | that was a good laugh for the morning |
| 16:12.29 | atoponce | thank you harleypig. :) |
| 16:12.57 | harleypig | glad to be pwned for the community :D |
| 16:14.51 | *** mode/#utah [+o goozbach] by ChanServ |
| 16:15.24 | *** kick/#utah [Tene!n=goozbach@brooks.netradius.com] by goozbach ( it's all your fault) |
| 16:17.46 | harleypig | :D |
| 16:17.56 | atoponce | wha? no autorejoin.pl? |
| 16:18.06 | atoponce | shame... |
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| 16:19.54 | findlay | ~say -chat ~onjoin findlay |
| 16:19.55 | ibot | -chat ~onjoin findlay |
| 16:19.56 | brac | ~onjoin findlay sinecure |
| 16:19.56 | ibot | brac: ok |
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| 16:21.49 | harleypig | anyone going to see 10000BC? It looks like it's not even trying to be accurate, which is fine, as long as its a good story. |
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| 16:31.37 | atoponce | /dev/null is pretty useful |
| 16:32.18 | ^Migs^ | what's inaccurate about 10000BC? |
| 16:33.01 | beandog | needs more zeroes. |
| 16:33.13 | tensai | needs more cowbell |
| 16:33.40 | atoponce | beandog: /dev/zero could help with that |
| 16:34.02 | beandog | I gotta have more cowbell |
| 16:34.48 | dataw0lf | ^Migs^: people riding mammoths? |
| 16:35.08 | harleypig | :D |
| 16:35.15 | harleypig | ^Migs^: The dinosaurs? |
| 16:36.31 | ^Migs^ | who says people didn't rid mammoths? |
| 16:36.45 | ^Migs^ | or that at least SOME dinosaurs didn't survive well into 10000BC? |
| 16:36.53 | ^Migs^ | *ride |
| 16:36.57 | dataw0lf | who says there aren't aliens among us? |
| 16:37.02 | ^Migs^ | exactly |
| 16:37.04 | harleypig | There are. |
| 16:37.05 | dataw0lf | hey, maybe scientology is right, while we're at it |
| 16:37.12 | ^Migs^ | the point is WE DON'T KNOW |
| 16:37.17 | harleypig | They swim the river daily. |
| 16:37.24 | ^Migs^ | just because we haven't found any dinosaur bones from that era doesn't mean they didn't exist |
| 16:37.25 | findlay | actually, I know |
| 16:37.41 | findlay | anyone who says the universe is older than 26 years is smoking something |
| 16:37.59 | dataw0lf | findlay: ha! 25, you mean. |
| 16:38.11 | harleypig | And the depicted ziggurats don't have any evidence either. |
| 16:38.14 | findlay | ~smoke dataw0lf |
| 16:38.15 | ibot | ACTION rolls up dataw0lf, lights a match, kicks back and enjoys the noxious fumes |
| 16:38.17 | ^Migs^ | I remember being alive 26 years ago |
| 16:38.21 | harleypig | err ... yeah ... that sentence made sence |
| 16:38.27 | harleypig | s/sence/sense/ |
| 16:38.28 | ^Migs^ | before that, it's a blur, so it's possible the universe didn't exist then |
| 16:38.32 | harleypig | I'm going back tob ed |
| 16:38.38 | harleypig | ARGHH! |
| 16:38.40 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 16:38.46 | tensai | ~tob ed harleypig |
| 16:38.47 | ^Migs^ | can someone prove to me the universe existed before 1982? |
| 16:39.06 | findlay | I was born in 1981 |
| 16:39.15 | tensai | it's impossible to prove anything to the closed minded |
| 16:39.18 | findlay | and I have a single memory from that year |
| 16:39.19 | ^Migs^ | I was born in 1979 |
| 16:39.26 | ^Migs^ | but I remember nothing before 1982 |
| 16:39.26 | harleypig | ^Migs^: Do you believe in multi-person solipsism? |
| 16:39.33 | ^Migs^ | WITCHCRAFT |
| 16:40.00 | ^Migs^ | how can solipism be multi-person? |
| 16:40.11 | harleypig | Why not? |
| 16:40.27 | harleypig | We all live in our own reality. |
| 16:40.39 | ^Migs^ | right, and you are all extensions of my reality |
| 16:40.40 | ^Migs^ | I get it |
| 16:40.48 | ^Migs^ | no, I don't subscribe to it |
| 16:40.57 | ^Migs^ | I just don't see any proof the universe existed before 1982 |
| 16:40.58 | harleypig | that was supposed to be a joke. |
| 16:41.04 | ^Migs^ | and I found it funny, trust me |
| 16:41.45 | harleypig | Well, I've never been to Russia ... it must have been made up by three letter acronyms in the government to suppress me. |
| 16:42.02 | ^Migs^ | right. No one can actually prove Russia exists. |
| 16:42.24 | ^Migs^ | I have a coworker who claims he came from Russia, and speaks in a funny so-called "Russian" accent, though |
| 16:42.36 | goozbach | I was going to reply to fozzmoo on PLUG but it took too much effort, so I didn't do it |
| 16:42.42 | ^Migs^ | but for all I know, he came from the Ukraine, which also may or may not exist |
| 16:42.51 | ^Migs^ | that's the spirit, goozbach! |
| 16:42.56 | fozzmoo | goozbach: You're so... typical. |
| 16:43.06 | ^Migs^ | most responses require too much effort |
| 16:54.58 | elg | I always get either a good chuckle or a red face when people assume that their position is the one true way and that anyone that does it differently must be a moron. like the "list list is going downhill" (i know it was a joke) comment |
| 16:55.09 | elg | OTOH, anyone who doesn't use a scale in the kitchen is indeed a moron. ;-) |
| 16:55.45 | harleypig | what's wrong with not using a scale for an experienced cook? |
| 16:55.58 | harleypig | I can understand a new cook having to use one. |
| 16:56.20 | harleypig | Or did I miss the humour? |
| 16:57.39 | sontek | scales are for wussies |
| 16:57.44 | sontek | real men guestimate |
| 16:58.21 | sontek | if you can't eyeball it, you aren't a real cook! |
| 16:58.27 | harleypig | real cooks get it right everytime, within a .2 variane |
| 16:58.33 | harleypig | s/variane/variance/ |
| 17:01.34 | tensai | harleypig: when baking, precision counts |
| 17:02.07 | harleypig | I've known some bakers who would disagree ... but they've all been baking for 30 years or more. |
| 17:02.28 | harleypig | But baking and cooking are two separate disciplines. |
| 17:03.35 | tensai | that's what I was getting at. cooking can be done from the hip, so to speak. baking not so much. |
| 17:10.54 | goozbach | speaking of baking, I need to blog my superduper cookie recipe |
| 17:11.00 | goozbach | it's lumptastick |
| 17:14.48 | elg | harleypig: well, eyeballing it or going by feel is superior to scale, yes |
| 17:15.01 | elg | but measuring flour by volume is the sort of thing I'm disparaging :) |
| 17:19.50 | sontek | I'm more of a "number 1 no onions" kind of guy |
| 17:22.18 | elg | precision *is* paramount in baking (to some level of precision obviously) |
| 17:22.43 | elg | but good bakers get closer by feel/sight than you can get by measuring, due to variation like humidity, temperature, etc. |
| 17:22.52 | elg | the baker is more precise |
| 17:31.21 | findlay | ~bake elg |
| 17:31.22 | ibot | I think you mean ~cook elg, findlay |
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| 17:39.01 | trip0 | anyone is interested in a c++/java/.net job in ogden? |
| 17:39.16 | elg | anyone know a simple text to rss program? like markdown for rss |
| 17:40.35 | dataw0lf | elg: http://www.freewisdom.org/projects/python-markdown/mdx_rss |
| 17:41.01 | harleypig | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:43.23 | harleypig | There are also a number of cpan modules for creating rss feeds. |
| 17:44.11 | elg | harleypig: that looks like the sort of thing |
| 17:45.12 | elg | too bad the entry format is silly |
| 17:45.19 | elg | guess I'll write my own in 15 minutes |
| 17:45.30 | harleypig | heh ... probably better off doing that |
| 17:49.26 | elg | now the only question is which rss or atom to use? |
| 17:52.43 | trip0 | rss ftw |
| 18:00.14 | sontek | rss vs atom is like emacs vs vi :P |
| 18:00.51 | trip0 | i think rss is more widely used |
| 18:01.16 | trip0 | atom < rss < itunes rss |
| 18:01.17 | trip0 | :p |
| 18:03.11 | sontek | it might be more widely used but its not more widely supported |
| 18:06.32 | trip0 | really? atom has more support? |
| 18:07.09 | sontek | no, neither dod |
| 18:07.11 | sontek | do* |
| 18:07.15 | sontek | they are supported equally |
| 18:07.36 | harleypig | has anyone every heard of Cluster Resources, Inc in Provo? |
| 18:08.36 | herlo | harleypig: yes, I have |
| 18:08.44 | herlo | they work out of the OSTC at the Novell campus |
| 18:09.14 | harleypig | Do you know if they are good to work for? I see that they are advertising for a perl job. |
| 18:10.43 | sontek | well.. anyone who forces their workers to use that language is probably not a good employer ;) ;) |
| 18:10.54 | sontek | ~oink |
| 18:10.55 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, oink is onomatopoeia for "Obviously you didn't calibrate the lateral phase stabilzers correctly because we're heading towards a giant bananna!", or a torrent site with an annoying habit of disabling accounts that haven't gone to the website in 6 weeks with no warning |
| 18:10.55 | harleypig | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:10.59 | sontek | haha |
| 18:12.19 | harleypig | Oh ... I see Michael Moore works there. |
| 18:12.40 | harleypig | Not the same as the famous one I hope. :> |
| 18:12.56 | harleypig | Oh, wait ... don't we have someone by that name in PLUG? |
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| 18:14.32 | harleypig | stuporglue right? |
| 18:15.00 | harleypig | And they have a Michael Jackson working there as well ... hmmm .... |
| 18:15.45 | sontek | harleypig: backcountry.com is a perl shop afaik |
| 18:15.58 | harleypig | Are they still hiring? |
| 18:16.32 | sontek | they were like a month ago, a guy in this building was going through their process |
| 18:16.42 | harleypig | where are you at? |
| 18:16.48 | harleypig | just out of curiosity |
| 18:16.54 | goozbach | attention all gurus: don't use my mal-configured DNS server in ND: http://www.circleid.com/posts/811611_david_ritz_court_spam |
| 18:17.08 | goozbach | and: http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/2007/10/news-on-david-ritz-case.html |
| 18:17.17 | goozbach | you would be breaking the law |
| 18:19.00 | herlo | harleypig: right, stuporglue == michael moore |
| 18:19.15 | harleypig | thx |
| 18:19.21 | herlo | harleypig: sontek is in sl |
| 18:20.24 | tensai | goozbach: thus we see that nothing good has ever come out of ND |
| 18:23.59 | sontek | harleypig: I'm in SLC, backcountry is up in Park City |
| 18:24.05 | sontek | harleypig: but they do have 2 per positions still open |
| 18:24.13 | sontek | harleypig: a level 2 and level 3 (whatever those mean :P) |
| 18:25.24 | sontek | perl* positions |
| 18:32.39 | sontek | is there a standard *release* file for all distros? or do they all do it differently? |
| 18:32.53 | sontek | like ubuntu has lsb-release, suse as SuSE-release |
| 18:33.55 | dataw0lf | sontek: no. |
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| 18:36.53 | markl__ | is there anywhere in utah that would carry prescott socket 478 cpus (or does anyone have a decent one collecting dust somewhere) |
| 18:39.37 | sontek | Universal Systems is the best computer store you'll find in Utah |
| 18:39.42 | sontek | so I'd call them |
| 18:40.08 | markl__ | just curious what do you use to determine "best" |
| 18:40.17 | trip0 | Cyber Exchange in Roy may also have one |
| 18:40.32 | markl__ | i know people who thought compusa and ebc were the best :) |
| 18:40.47 | trip0 | "best" is totally subjective |
| 18:41.51 | trip0 | depends on what you are looking for in a "good" computer store |
| 18:43.25 | markl__ | at the moment, i would define "good" as carrying 2 year old technology and being willing to unload it at fire sale prices :) |
| 18:43.41 | tensai | ugh. ebc. |
| 18:50.53 | sontek | markl__: meaning the only ones that actually know what they are talking about and have decent hardwware |
| 18:51.02 | sontek | markl__: the other options are geek squad type ;P |
| 18:51.42 | sontek | but best is still relative, this is Utah, you aren't going to find anything that comes close to Frys |
| 18:59.26 | nick125 | Probably the people who think CompUSA was/is good are the ones that know nothing else exists. |
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| 19:21.41 | harleypig | At some point my hindbrain--and pride--are going to have to accept the fact that I am no longer 20 and that I have a bad back. *sigh* |
| 19:37.43 | elg | harleypig: do not go softly into the dark night |
| 19:37.58 | elg | ~qwest tensai |
| 19:38.36 | nick125 | elg: That's mean :( |
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| 19:41.43 | nick125 | elg: I mean, what did tensai do to you that warrants that kind of punishment? |
| 19:56.45 | levi | So, I played with a Moog Little Phatty at Guitar Center. So cool. :) |
| 19:58.22 | harleypig | elg: :D |
| 19:58.51 | harleypig | elg: I'll go full tilt ... try to bowl over as many of my ancestors as I can. |
| 19:59.31 | elg | :) |
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| 20:24.52 | tensai | nick125: he can qwest me all he wants, but I just ported my number away from qwest so they can't hurt me |
| 20:26.12 | nick125 | tensai: But wishing that on anyone is mean! |
| 20:26.19 | nick125 | really mean |
| 20:26.41 | tensai | that's undeniably true |
| 20:27.33 | ^Migs^ | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/funny-pictures-oh-hai-street.jpg |
| 20:28.24 | synic | hah |
| 20:36.13 | ^Migs^ | http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii101/makimakii/loveletter.jpg |
| 20:36.15 | ^Migs^ | haha, how romantic! |
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| 20:39.01 | ^Migs^ | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/funny-pictures-oh-hai-street.jpg |
| 20:39.04 | ^Migs^ | oops |
| 20:39.14 | ^Migs^ | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/funny-pictures-civil-disobedience-cat.jpg |
| 20:39.16 | ^Migs^ | there we go |
| 20:40.07 | nearn | both are pretty funny. |
| 20:40.07 | nearn | ^5 |
| 20:40.42 | ^Migs^ | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/funny-pictures-time-paradox-cats.jpg |
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| 21:09.40 | harleypig | I think I just dreamt a flashback |
| 21:10.53 | harleypig | I had this dream of a really fat Elmer Fudd running around yelling "Kill the wabbit! Kill the wabbit!" with a *lot* of HUEY's flying overhead. When I woke up Wagner's Flight of the Valkyries was playing ... |
| 21:11.42 | harleypig | It was all cartoony, except for Elmer and the Huey's, and I was the rabbit. |
| 21:11.55 | harleypig | Elmer looked suspiciously like Brando. |
| 21:14.23 | elg | ~drug harleypig |
| 21:14.37 | harleypig | The only thing missing was "I love the smell of rabbit stew in the evening!" |
| 21:14.55 | harleypig | quite possibly ... except I haven't taken any pain medication yet today. |
| 21:15.12 | harleypig | That's why I think it was a flashback. |
| 21:19.13 | elg | ~flas^H^H^H^H^H |
| 21:19.23 | harleypig | Oh, that's bad. |
| 21:19.25 | harleypig | ~pun elg |
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| 21:29.30 | harleypig | woops ... I just found the "racy" video of Satisfaction on my son's account. |
| 21:29.43 | harleypig | Oh ... and there's Stacy's Mom |
| 21:29.55 | nick125 | uhm.. |
| 21:30.15 | harleypig | Kid's got taste ... oh darn ... somehow I deleted those by accident. |
| 21:30.18 | markl__ | it isn't nearly as racy as "start me up" is it |
| 21:30.29 | markl__ | that song is just disgusting at the end |
| 21:30.59 | harleypig | um ... "Push me, and then just touch me, until I get my satisfaction" with babes in bikinis using power equipment rather provocatively. |
| 21:31.09 | harleypig | The one with the jackhammer is rather well endowed. |
| 21:31.16 | trip0 | hahahaha |
| 21:31.17 | harleypig | Start me up ... who's that by? |
| 21:31.21 | markl__ | rolling stones |
| 21:31.26 | harleypig | Oh ... duh |
| 21:31.28 | harleypig | thanks. |
| 21:31.31 | markl__ | heh |
| 21:31.46 | markl__ | listen to the lyrics as it starts to quiet down at the end |
| 21:32.40 | harleypig | For start me up ... is that the one with "She can make a dead man cum!" ? |
| 21:32.44 | markl__ | yes |
| 21:33.05 | harleypig | Yeah ... no, Satisfaction is a tad bit better^Wracier. |
| 21:33.23 | harleypig | Although, the only video I've seen of that one is RS on stage ... |
| 21:39.54 | harleypig | On a semi-related note ... who sings that song with Santana (I'd recognize his guitar anywhere) that talks about a love interest being able to pull the devil right out of him. |
| 21:39.56 | nick125 | Anyone here experienced with wpa_supplicant? |
| 21:40.07 | harleypig | Has a refrain of "ay-oh ay-oh ay-oh" |
| 21:40.12 | nick125 | For some reason, my Eee and my normal laptop keep reassociating to my AP, even though the signal is fine. |
| 21:40.20 | harleypig | I'd swear that was Nickleback. |
| 21:40.25 | harleypig | But I can't find it. |
| 21:40.44 | nick125 | It's the guy from nickelback...chad kroger, I think. |
| 21:40.53 | nick125 | Into the Night? |
| 21:41.18 | harleypig | I'm not sure about the title. BUt I haven't search with kroger and santana |
| 21:41.48 | nick125 | I'm pretty sure it's Into the Night.. |
| 21:42.37 | harleypig | That's it ... cool. Thanks. |
| 21:44.01 | harleypig | Santana has been really busy since his divorce. |
| 21:46.07 | sargun_screen | I dislike my stupid coworkers :-| |
| 21:46.25 | harleypig | umm ... I hope none of them frequent here! :D |
| 21:46.28 | harleypig | where do you work? |
| 21:48.03 | sargun_screen | A small company |
| 21:48.10 | sargun_screen | Who hires people from the midwest. |
| 21:48.18 | harleypig | :D |
| 21:48.20 | sargun_screen | Not to say that people from the midwest aren't intelligent. |
| 21:48.21 | elg | so you're racist |
| 21:48.33 | ^Migs^ | geographist |
| 21:48.34 | harleypig | He's directionist. |
| 21:48.36 | elg | cowboys are a race aren't they? |
| 21:48.46 | harleypig | No, they're a class. |
| 21:48.48 | sargun_screen | More like Geographically predijuiced |
| 21:48.55 | elg | well we're the same direction from him as the midwesterners |
| 21:48.55 | sargun_screen | nick125: why |
| 21:49.03 | elg | well, you are |
| 21:49.05 | ^Migs^ | lousy midwesterners |
| 21:49.05 | nick125 | sargun_screen: Because it keeps reassociating |
| 21:49.10 | elg | I'm too far south |
| 21:49.17 | nick125 | Even though I'm right next to the AP |
| 21:49.18 | sargun_screen | nick125: Weird. I didn't have problems with it... |
| 21:49.24 | ^Migs^ | isn't Utah considered midwest by some definitions? |
| 21:49.26 | nick125 | sargun_screen: What kind of WPA are you using? |
| 21:49.52 | harleypig | I wonder if Liv Tyler ever appears in any of her dad's videos ... |
| 21:50.06 | harleypig | I know he's done a couple of songs for some of the movies she's been in ... |
| 21:50.18 | ^Migs^ | who's her dad? |
| 21:50.22 | nick125 | Maybe a firmware update for this stupid AP will work.. |
| 21:50.26 | harleypig | Steve Tyler |
| 21:51.10 | harleypig | lead singer of Aerosmith |
| 21:51.22 | nick125 | Wow..I'm running 1.02 on my router, which was released in late 06. |
| 21:51.29 | ^Migs^ | ok, okay |
| 21:52.20 | harleypig | Oh ,,, wow ... I love you tube ... a video from Woodstock with Santana doing Sould Sacrifice ... |
| 21:52.30 | nick125 | I probably shouldn't update my router over wifi...but who cares |
| 21:52.32 | harleypig | s/Sould/Soul/ |
| 21:52.48 | harleypig | nick125: You *really* shouldn't. |
| 21:53.05 | sargun_screen | nick125: I have to explain them this page: http://xbmodder.us/notastep.png |
| 21:53.33 | nick125 | link doesn't work here |
| 21:53.39 | sargun_screen | xbmodder.us is borkend? |
| 21:53.43 | nick125 | I think so |
| 21:53.52 | sargun_screen | crap |
| 21:54.00 | nick125 | okay...maybe no |
| 21:54.08 | nick125 | hold on |
| 21:54.26 | nick125 | uhh |
| 21:54.32 | nick125 | For some reason, I just lost my default route. |
| 21:54.38 | sargun_screen | hehehe |
| 21:54.59 | sargun_screen | Notice the help on the right hand side! |
| 21:55.16 | nick125 | haha |
| 21:56.16 | sargun_screen | nick125: look in PM |
| 21:57.53 | harleypig | Huh? mininova has no results for Johny Cash? |
| 21:57.54 | harleypig | Oh. |
| 21:58.02 | harleypig | It helps if I spell Johhny right. |
| 21:58.13 | harleypig | err ... I mean Johnny |
| 22:00.11 | nick125 | Great, I can't connect to my AP any more. |
| 22:00.25 | nick125 | I love this. |
| 22:01.42 | goozbach | NEED MORE RAM!!! |
| 22:01.54 | harleypig | Don't you mean cowbell? |
| 22:03.53 | harleypig | I would love to go back in time to go to Woodstock! |
| 22:05.01 | trip0 | goozbach: i've got some SIMM chips you can use |
| 22:05.06 | trip0 | 4mb each |
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| 22:07.22 | Supaplex | GAHHH! bad bad bad bad. my /etc just got updated from the wrong box. ewps. |
| 22:08.29 | tensai | harleypig: grab a bag of weed and sit in the mud with janice joplin cranked up on the stereo. same effect. |
| 22:10.26 | harleypig | Naw ... she only played a couple of hours worth. |
| 22:11.08 | sontek | flight of the conchord are coming to SLC this weekend =) |
| 22:11.08 | harleypig | I wanna go on right after the guy who repeated "number nine" and say "number nine has lost his place in line" |
| 22:11.45 | harleypig | wow ... Santana and a hip hop group ... and he's actually singing a little bit ... he's really trying to bury himself in his work |
| 22:11.54 | harleypig | I think they're called The Wraith. |
| 22:12.24 | harleypig | tensai: and I'd need some purple microdots and maybe some shrooms as well, just a bag of weed wouldn't cut it. |
| 22:12.50 | harleypig | Though ... I was helping a friends older brother clean out his attic and we came across a baggie buried in some stuff. |
| 22:13.03 | tensai | harleypig: a garbage sack of weed? |
| 22:13.10 | harleypig | He just looked awed and said "Holy sh*t!!! We got that at Woodstock!" |
| 22:13.20 | harleypig | Best damn baggie I ever had. |
| 22:13.48 | harleypig | His wife, brother (my friend) and I got so totally whacked ... |
| 22:14.11 | elg | but not he? |
| 22:14.17 | harleypig | Oh, and he did too. |
| 22:14.38 | dataw0lf | that must've been some potent weed to actually be smokeable after so many years |
| 22:14.40 | harleypig | He said she'd kill him if he didn't tell her about it. He was afraid she was going to make him throw it away. |
| 22:14.57 | harleypig | it was ... about 15 years I think. |
| 22:15.00 | Heartsbane | sontek: flight of the concords SUX! |
| 22:15.09 | harleypig | But No, closer to 20. |
| 22:15.13 | sontek | ~lart Heartsbane |
| 22:15.13 | ibot | whacks Heartsbane with the cluebat |
| 22:15.17 | sontek | ~flog Heartsbane |
| 22:15.17 | ibot | ACTION whips Heartsbane with a cat-5 o' nine tails |
| 22:15.29 | harleypig | Yeah ... it was *really* potent. When I came to my senses it was the late the next day. |
| 22:15.29 | Heartsbane | sucks I say |
| 22:15.36 | harleypig | And we still had to clean the attic. |
| 22:15.43 | sontek | ~diaf Heartsbane |
| 22:15.47 | sontek | WHAT?! |
| 22:15.56 | harleypig | :D |
| 22:16.24 | Heartsbane | fail |
| 22:16.30 | harleypig | We thought we did it whilst stoned, but it turns out we just moved things around looking for more weed. And other stuff he swore he remembered hiding. |
| 22:17.32 | dataw0lf | heh |
| 22:17.34 | sontek | ~diaf Heartsbane |
| 22:17.35 | ibot | ACTION covers $heartsbane in a gas and drops a match. |
| 22:17.39 | sontek | whoops |
| 22:17.54 | Heartsbane | lol |
| 22:18.12 | sontek | ~diaf Heartsbane |
| 22:18.13 | ibot | ACTION covers $heartsbane in a gas and drops a match. |
| 22:18.15 | Heartsbane | failX2 |
| 22:18.16 | sontek | WHAT?! |
| 22:18.17 | Heartsbane | failX4 |
| 22:18.19 | sontek | IBOT YOU FAIL |
| 22:18.19 | ibot | ACTION slaps you for calling her a failure. |
| 22:18.27 | harleypig | :D :D :D |
| 22:18.30 | ^Migs^ | http://www.shipmentoffail.com |
| 22:18.48 | harleypig | You know what I'd like to see ... Santana and Eddie Van Halen |
| 22:18.57 | sontek | oh, it didn't listen to me the 2nd time because it was already set |
| 22:19.00 | sontek | ~diaf Heartsbane |
| 22:19.01 | ibot | ACTION covers Heartsbane in a gas and drops a match. |
| 22:19.06 | sontek | all better |
| 22:19.11 | elg | ugh |
| 22:19.18 | harleypig | what does diaf stand for? |
| 22:19.23 | peno | die in a fire |
| 22:19.24 | sontek | die in a fire |
| 22:19.24 | dataw0lf | sontek: "in a gas" ? |
| 22:19.28 | harleypig | ah |
| 22:19.36 | sontek | dataw0lf: good catch! |
| 22:19.38 | elg | the only thing worse than code with no vertical spacing is code with exactly one blank line between every non-blank line. (double-spaced code) |
| 22:19.43 | ^Migs^ | Doom impending, act fabulous! |
| 22:19.55 | harleypig | though ... santana and clapton are doing pretty dang good ... |
| 22:20.03 | dataw0lf | elg: ew. |
| 22:20.19 | harleypig | elg: my god ... that's awful |
| 22:20.37 | harleypig | indent and/or lint and/or one of the tidy programs to the rescue! |
| 22:20.49 | elg | well I just take off a few points and move on :) |
| 22:22.06 | unum | can someone tell me how to strip the first character from a string in tcsh |
| 22:22.29 | harleypig | Oh man ... Santana and Clapton just dueled each other in this video with their guitars ... very good. |
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| 22:23.50 | elg | can someone tell me why unum is using tcsh? |
| 22:24.01 | harleypig | to make you ask questions? |
| 22:25.00 | sontek | Heartsbane: http://www.nytimes.com/indexes/2008/02/28/technology/circuitsemail/index.html?8cir&emc=cir |
| 22:25.01 | brac | [Circuits: How Dangerous Is the Internet for Children?] |
| 22:25.09 | levi | Because unum is a crazy BSD-head or something? |
| 22:25.24 | harleypig | ohhhhh ... How about Santana, Clapton, Eddie Van Halen and Stevie Ray Vaughn ... |
| 22:25.36 | harleypig | *That* would be a concert to go to. |
| 22:25.48 | elg | i think the biggest danger is using the wrong charset |
| 22:26.00 | elg | when you can't even get quotation marks right, you are in the dark agest |
| 22:26.02 | sontek | elg: and the wrong editor |
| 22:26.49 | harleypig | oh wow ... Norah Jones and Keither Richards ... *there's* a match up |
| 22:26.50 | sontek | elg: i'm more worried about my child top posting than seeing porn! |
| 22:27.20 | harleypig | s/Keither/Keith/ |
| 22:28.33 | harleypig | Norah Jones and Keith Richards doing Love Hurts ... they actually made it sound good ... |
| 22:28.41 | harleypig | Of course, with her voice and his playing. |
| 22:28.49 | unum | elg: because my it manager is a filthy sadist? |
| 22:29.07 | elg | lol |
| 22:29.12 | findlay | ~convert 1e20 eV to joules |
| 22:29.21 | elg | mmm norah jones' voice |
| 22:29.34 | harleypig | keith needs to stop singing though. |
| 22:31.18 | sontek | ~convert emacs to vim |
| 22:33.03 | harleypig | I thnk I need to play something a little more recent I'm starting to get a little nostalgic |
| 22:33.14 | nick125 | Anyone here know of any WRAP/embedded boards that can do PoE? |
| 22:33.27 | Heartsbane | sontek: nice link |
| 22:34.23 | nick125 | oo, it looks like Soekris boards can do PoE.. |
| 22:40.39 | nick125 | The PC Engines ALIX boards look good too...much cheaper than the Soekris boards for more bang. |
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| 22:42.10 | rsimpkins | Has anyone here done anything with DAZ studio? |
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| 22:44.31 | harleypig | redbeard2: I love that onjoin. |
| 22:45.03 | Supaplex | harleypig: elaborate :) |
| 22:48.51 | harleypig | ? on what? |
| 22:49.55 | Supaplex | the onjoin. rosebud doesn't mean much at all, to me. |
| 22:51.24 | findlay | ~convert 1 eV to joules |
| 22:51.32 | findlay | ~convert 1e20 eV to joules |
| 22:51.42 | harleypig | It's from a movie. |
| 22:51.47 | findlay | ~convert 1*10**20 eV to joules |
| 22:52.05 | findlay | ~convert 1*10^20 eV to joules |
| 22:55.05 | tensai | girl scout cookies! |
| 22:55.51 | tensai | well, they're good. not sure they're worth $15 a box or whatever ridiculous amount they charge now. |
| 22:57.28 | goozbach | Supaplex: go watch citizen kane |
| 22:57.38 | goozbach | it's a dang good movie |
| 22:58.41 | Supaplex | hummm okay. |
| 22:59.02 | beandog | its not that great. |
| 22:59.05 | beandog | its a good film. |
| 22:59.06 | beandog | not a great movie. |
| 23:00.47 | rsimpkins | I need to purchase a new TV. Can anyone recommend a decent local store? |
| 23:01.33 | beandog | Ill sell you mine |
| 23:01.45 | beandog | I'm tired of it already |
| 23:01.58 | nick125 | haha |
| 23:02.05 | beandog | seriously |
| 23:02.06 | rsimpkins | What is it? |
| 23:02.10 | beandog | uh |
| 23:02.13 | beandog | 60" HDTV :) |
| 23:02.17 | rsimpkins | Whoa. |
| 23:02.24 | rsimpkins | I don't have a lot of money. |
| 23:02.34 | beandog | I'll trade you for 5 Wiis |
| 23:02.35 | rsimpkins | When i bought my last TV 12 years ago it was $300. |
| 23:02.49 | rsimpkins | Now people expect you to pay $1500+ |
| 23:03.42 | beandog | yah |
| 23:03.43 | beandog | spendy stuff |
| 23:03.47 | beandog | rsimpkins, Id recommend craigslist though |
| 23:03.48 | rsimpkins | I might try circut city. |
| 23:03.50 | beandog | theres a lot of good deals on there |
| 23:04.03 | rsimpkins | I have sort of specific needs on a budget less than $500. |
| 23:04.13 | beandog | what are you looking for |
| 23:04.15 | trip0 | woot circuit city! |
| 23:04.17 | rsimpkins | It needs to be as kiddie proof as I can get. |
| 23:04.25 | beandog | get a CRT then |
| 23:04.38 | rsimpkins | Yeah, but hardly anyone sells them any more. |
| 23:04.38 | trip0 | crt noooo |
| 23:04.44 | trip0 | no more analog |
| 23:04.47 | beandog | if you want a good deal, Best Buy has a 720p 27" CRT HDTV for $225 |
| 23:04.52 | rsimpkins | You think they'd have a 34" CRT for like $50. :) |
| 23:05.09 | rsimpkins | beandog: I'll stop by there then. |
| 23:05.20 | beandog | rsimpkins, okay, tis a Samsung SlimFit |
| 23:06.37 | rsimpkins | It's a 34" for sure? |
| 23:06.41 | rsimpkins | Or a 30"? |
| 23:08.25 | levi | Even the CRT TVs these days have digital tuners. |
| 23:09.01 | levi | Which is great, because digital tuners make OTA worth watching again. |
| 23:09.46 | dataw0lf | gotta get the 60" plasma that's at Costco though |
| 23:09.54 | dataw0lf | after the wedding :\ |
| 23:09.58 | rsimpkins | lol |
| 23:10.07 | rsimpkins | That big - why not just go projector? |
| 23:10.12 | levi | I like my 42" 1080p. I don't need a gigantic screen. |
| 23:10.14 | rsimpkins | Heck of a lot easier to move. |
| 23:10.23 | dataw0lf | rsimpkins: light glare, really |
| 23:10.29 | dataw0lf | plasma is just so much brighter |
| 23:10.34 | dataw0lf | my 56" is a rear projection |
| 23:10.38 | rsimpkins | Don't they make like super bright projectors these days? |
| 23:10.39 | dataw0lf | and I still have problems with light |
| 23:10.50 | dataw0lf | none that can compete with a plasma screen (that I've seen) |
| 23:11.06 | levi | The DLP rear-projections are a pretty sweet deal right now. |
| 23:11.31 | rsimpkins | Well, I think I'll stop in to best buy on the way home and see what deals they have cooking. |
| 23:11.38 | rsimpkins | I could buy it tonight if I see something nice. |
| 23:11.52 | levi | I don't know what you can get for $500, though. |
| 23:12.19 | sontek | I have a switch that thinks it has an active connection on port 3 when nothing is plugged into it :P |
| 23:12.51 | tensai | sontek: stick a loopback plug in it |
| 23:13.18 | rsimpkins | I don't want a zillion inch TV, a 30 something inch tv is plenty for my viewing habits. |
| 23:13.46 | levi | You can get a 32" 480i ATSC flat-tube at Best Buy for $359. |
| 23:14.20 | sontek | you guys know if there is a preference somewhere in thundbird to say "when I click delete on a thread, it deletes the whole thread" |
| 23:14.36 | sontek | by default it only deletes the first email in the thread |
| 23:14.40 | rsimpkins | levi: That's for sure more my pace. |
| 23:14.53 | sontek | tensai: whats the loopback plug do? |
| 23:15.17 | levi | If you want to go HD, the best you can get <$500 there is an off-brand 26" LCD. |
| 23:16.18 | levi | That one's on sale right now for $449.99, at least on the web site. |
| 23:16.18 | rsimpkins | It is so frustrating to look at the current TV market and feel we've taken a horrible step in the wrong direction. |
| 23:16.35 | levi | What direction do YOU want TVs to go? |
| 23:16.36 | rsimpkins | HDTV has been very good to the TV manufacturers. |
| 23:17.18 | rsimpkins | Well, my magnavox 27" has lasted 12 years - and still works - just the picture tube is taking a little longer to warm up now. |
| 23:18.18 | rsimpkins | I think I spent about $280 on it at wal-mart. |
| 23:18.57 | levi | There's a 23" Sceptre LCD at costco for $299 online. |
| 23:19.28 | rsimpkins | So you see my frustration? A smaller tv that is less durable that costs more? |
| 23:20.02 | levi | A smaller TV, but with a far better picture and a high-definition receiver. |
| 23:20.20 | rsimpkins | I was pretty happy with the old 'low-def' picture I guess. |
| 23:20.22 | levi | If you don't care about picture quality, just keep your current TV. |
| 23:20.31 | levi | Can't get much cheaper than that. |
| 23:20.51 | rsimpkins | No doubt, I think it is finally dying though and I'd like to replace it. |
| 23:21.06 | rsimpkins | I will keep my older TV, but I've got the budget to replace it in advance. |
| 23:21.24 | rsimpkins | What a strange turn the market has taken. |
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| 23:21.49 | levi | Well, the trouble is that all TVs now have the digital receivers in them, but they just barely started going in and the economies of scale haven't kicked into overdrive yet. |
| 23:21.50 | rsimpkins | I wonder if it really costs them more to make that LCD TV versus my older 27" CRT. |
| 23:22.43 | levi | Plus, hi-def gives people a reason to actually want to upgrade their TVs, whereas there hasn't been a really strong reason in the past. |
| 23:22.47 | rsimpkins | I've been noticing for months CRTs disappearing off store shelves - being replaced by LCD. Maybe people are just not buying them? |
| 23:23.02 | levi | CRTs are obnoxious space-wasters. |
| 23:23.21 | levi | They're heavy, bulky, and ugly. |
| 23:23.22 | rsimpkins | Yes, but they tend to be cheaper per inch. |
| 23:23.30 | rsimpkins | And more durable. |
| 23:23.49 | rsimpkins | It doesn't matter really. It's not that big of deal. |
| 23:23.56 | rsimpkins | I'm sure I can find something that will be OK. |
| 23:24.03 | levi | Personally, I like the direction TVs are moving in. |
| 23:24.22 | levi | Sure, the bottom end of the price range has moved up, but the top end has also moved way down. |
| 23:24.49 | levi | And the overall picture quality has dramatically improved with digital broadcast and HD. |
| 23:24.58 | tensai | I'm still waiting for the price to come down. I'm in no hurry to replace my tv. |
| 23:25.01 | rsimpkins | levi: That's a good point, which means there is a whole market of bottom buyers like myself that are being unserved at the moment. |
| 23:25.35 | levi | rsimpkins: I would bet that there's a big market for cheap, lightly-used TVs right now. |
| 23:26.01 | rsimpkins | Many people I know have multiple televisions in their home. |
| 23:26.04 | rsimpkins | I've only ever had one. |
| 23:26.19 | dataw0lf | I got my 56" on Craig's List for ~700 bucks |
| 23:26.25 | dataw0lf | I'd check Craig's List. |
| 23:26.34 | levi | But my suggestion would be to save some more cash, get a modestly-sized LCD screen, and mount it on a wall out of the kids' reach. |
| 23:28.01 | beandog | they could still throw stuff at it |
| 23:28.07 | beandog | and it wouldnt be as durable as a CRT |
| 23:28.08 | rsimpkins | I may end up left with only that option. |
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| 23:28.31 | levi | Well, put a plexiglass sheet in front of it or something. :P |
| 23:28.55 | beandog | LCDs are crappy anyway |
| 23:28.55 | rsimpkins | It just blows my mind. I think I should be able to find a decent television for under $500 - but just doesn't seem like there are many choices where 10 years ago there were TONS of choices. |
| 23:29.09 | beandog | Craigs List, man |
| 23:29.15 | rsimpkins | I'm looking. :) |
| 23:29.16 | beandog | theres tons of crap on there |
| 23:29.26 | levi | rsimpkins: Also... inflation, dude. |
| 23:29.38 | vontrapp | -lart inflation |
| 23:29.41 | levi | You can't buy crap for $500 these days. |
| 23:30.02 | vontrapp | ~inflation |
| 23:30.04 | tensai | I'll sell you my crap for $499 |
| 23:30.38 | vontrapp | 0.o tensai has pretty cheap crap |
| 23:30.58 | levi | OK, go to WalMart and you can pick up several cheap tube screens for < $200. |
| 23:30.59 | tensai | buy one crap, get the second at half price |
| 23:32.02 | vontrapp | ~inflation is an increase in the supply of currency |
| 23:32.03 | ibot | vontrapp: okay |
| 23:33.03 | vontrapp | ~inflation is also *not* rising prices |
| 23:33.04 | ibot | okay, vontrapp |
| 23:33.46 | tensai | ~wiki inflation |
| 23:34.01 | levi | Inflation causes money to lose value, which makes things cost more. |
| 23:34.15 | vontrapp | right, cause and effect |
| 23:34.28 | unum | for those of you on the udb list, is my sql statement long enough |
| 23:34.35 | vontrapp | but inflation itself is an increase in currency supply |
| 23:34.48 | levi | vontrapp: For some definition of 'inflation' |
| 23:34.58 | vontrapp | for the real definition |
| 23:35.05 | levi | Whatever. |
| 23:35.37 | vontrapp | if you don't have accurate definitions, it makes problem solving more difficult and error prone |
| 23:35.55 | vontrapp | like thinking the way to solve inflation is by fixing prices or subsidizing |
| 23:35.57 | levi | If you go all pedantic when it's not called for, people think you're an ass, especially when you make a habit of it. |
| 23:36.27 | vontrapp | i just think it's important |
| 23:36.45 | tensai | you're declaring a subject cut and dried when it's not nearly so |
| 23:37.14 | levi | tensai: Well, if you just saw things the way he did, you'd think his way too! |
| 23:37.42 | vontrapp | inflation is like inflating a balloon, except you add money instead of air |
| 23:38.23 | vontrapp | how can you hope to understand the cause of rising prices when you equate the cause with the effect? |
| 23:38.43 | levi | And it makes TVs more expensive, which was the only reason I brought it up. Whether it was a primary or secondary effect is irrelevant to our discussion, and now you've gone off on one of your pet topics again and we're never going to get you to shut up. |
| 23:39.29 | vontrapp | levi: you're the one insisting that important terms can be fuzzy and vague |
| 23:39.31 | tensai | love is like a ding dong |
| 23:39.44 | levi | vontrapp: Sometimes they can! It's all about the context, man. |
| 23:40.17 | vontrapp | levi: fwiw, i was *not* disagreeing wiht your statement that expensive TVs are a result of inflation |
| 23:40.50 | levi | vontrapp: Of course not, you just felt the need to educate us on your pet topic. |
| 23:41.02 | vontrapp | i just added a factoid to IBOT, chill out man! |
| 23:41.36 | levi | OK, I'm chilled. :) |
| 23:41.50 | vontrapp | levi: if you expect people to be asses, then you're going to see asses |
| 23:42.15 | levi | I don't expect it of people in general. |
| 23:42.32 | tensai | hee haw! hee haw! |
| 23:42.43 | levi | Just tensai! |
| 23:46.04 | tensai | you guys know of a good camera to buy for a kid? |
| 23:46.31 | levi | There are a bunch designed for kids now, but I can't say how good they are. |
| 23:47.02 | rsimpkins | tensai: Most of the kiddie ones are 640x480 - so be careful. |
| 23:47.32 | rsimpkins | tensai: I saw a cheap one at wal-mart for $40. I think it was a 2.1MP and had a flash. It looked durable enough for a 7yo or older to use. |
| 23:48.05 | tensai | this is for a 5yo. 640x480 would be fine. I'm not expecting him to turn ansel adams overnight. |
| 23:49.19 | rsimpkins | Yeah, I think they are like 19.99 and come in a boy and girl theme. |
| 23:49.21 | rsimpkins | No flash. |
| 23:49.50 | rsimpkins | I don't think they have a lot of memory either, and might require their custom software to d/l the pics. |
| 23:50.43 | tensai | custom software ain't gonna fly. it better be a usb mass storage device or it's going straight back. |
| 23:50.54 | vontrapp | i want a camera that automatically uploads shots taken via a bluetooth link when available, freeing the space for more pictures |
| 23:50.56 | tensai | flash would be nice though |
| 23:52.07 | rsimpkins | tensai: I don't know your 5yo. Mine tears stuff apart like crazy. If yours is not like that the 2.1MP camera coudl work for you just fine. |
| 23:52.27 | tensai | rsimpkins: mostly I'm worried about it getting dropped or stepped on |
| 23:52.55 | findlay | ~convert 7 TeV to eV |
| 23:53.01 | rsimpkins | tensai: dropped on the pavment, toast. Dropped on the carpet both would be fine. |
| 23:53.12 | findlay | ~convert 7 teV to eV |
| 23:53.24 | findlay | ~convert 7 tera eV to eV |
| 23:53.38 | findlay | ~convert 7 tera electron-volts to electron-volts |
| 23:53.46 | vontrapp | ~convert 7 gigawatts to eV |
| 23:53.47 | findlay | ~convert 7 teraelectron-volts to electron-volts |
| 23:54.12 | vontrapp | convert 7 gigajoules to eV |
| 23:54.17 | findlay | ~convert 7 teraelectron-volts to kilocalories |
| 23:54.21 | vontrapp | ~convert 7 gigajoules to eV |
| 23:54.42 | rsimpkins | Doing physics homework? |
| 23:55.03 | findlay | presentation |
| 23:55.05 | vontrapp | findlay doesn't do homework, he plays with physics |
| 23:55.42 | rsimpkins | Building a 7TeV accelerator in your back 40 huh? |
| 23:56.49 | findlay | that'd take way more than 40 |
| 23:57.47 | rsimpkins | I bet you could fit 1TeV http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Fermilab.jpg |
| 23:58.02 | findlay | try 232 km^2 |
| 23:59.56 | rsimpkins | findlay: Why don't they stack accelerator rings like a spring? |
